THE KINGS OF TECH DEATH! Dean Lamb (Archspire) interview | The Punk Rock MBA Podcast

Dean Lamb of Archspire joins for an interview to talk about how Archspire writes, Will Ramos and Lorna Shore, winning a Juno award, how Dean's KZbin channel plays into their success, whether Archspire would ever change up their style from technical death metal. Listen to this interview with Dean Lamb on the Punk Rock MBA Podcast!
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[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

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[@DeanLamb]

Ayyy it's my ugly mug!

[@2174863]

theoretically you and I are the same person just with different attributes

[@leviathan0232]

This is why I love Dean. Even on a joke question this man starts talking about the very concept of TDM itself 😂 you can’t write this shit man, what a thoughtful guy.

[@Aleblood]

Dean is the best! I'm glad you guys could make this happen.

[@grandviewcinema5355]

Dean rules!!

[@user-qx9mu1us3s]

Killer interview man. If there's any person/band I'm rooting for success it's dean and archspire. They work ungodly hard on their music and remain humble and relatable. I agree that they are the new gold standard for tech death. Just a unicorn in general.

[@bentarpey8666]

Amazing band. Dean has a really great perspective on music and creativity, I enjoy listening to him talk.

[@chairmanofthebored6860]

Dean! These guys absolutely kill live.

[@djentydjames985]

They really do! One of the best shows I’ve seen

[@dr.juerdotitsgo5119]

Never heard of this guy and his band in my life, but man this is fascinating. Finn and Rick Beato are the greatest music interviewers on KZbin hands down.

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

Thank you!

[@yellowsaurus4895]

Dude, if you like tech death check them out, you will not be disappointed

[@doctajuice]

Yeah definitely check out archspire they fkin rip

[@dr.juerdotitsgo5119]

@@yellowsaurus4895 Thanks man, but I like my death metal oldschool, filthy, and rotten lol

[@ReaperKezia]

@@dr.juerdotitsgo5119 You should watch the music video for Drone corpse aviator. It's an epic song & video. That and the lyric video for Bleed the future.

[@Altian00]

The slow, almost gothic melody in A Dark Horizontal and the slow intro to Relentless Mutation elevate the whole damn album so much. Also the breaks in Drone Corpse Aviator. Every slowdown in an Archspire song is like fuggin candy.

[@parisite99]

As someone who doesn’t watch Finn’s content, this is one on the best interviews I’ve seen…hands down! Finn didn’t ask stupid questions, it flowed really well, and I actually enjoyed the shit outta every minute. I’m subbed now!!

[@wttruax5816]

I love how deeply Dean thinks about this stuff. You can tell he cares A LOT

[@coreycrossman3447]

Archspire and Beyond Creation two great bands from my home country

[@AmeOnDxm]

tech death is the most beautiful genre to grace this earth

[@CrypticJasmine]

it’s so fucking awesome hearing about the vocal/ lyric writing process. People who don’t create often don’t understand why you wouldn’t want to socialize / don’t need constant interaction / need space - it’s cuz you’re busy creating something 💖💖💖

[@pogoman246]

@8:29 is the reason Archspire is the only tech death band that I don't find incredibly boring. They're a sick band.

[@guitarmichael]

Using the prototype model of categorization for understanding genres is actually quite brilliant. Classifying bands based on their comparison to one iconic or defining band of that genre actually makes the distinction tangible.

[@scattaredlight]

I loved this video. Dean talking about navigating not being derivative of themselves is so interesting. I never thought about it but it made sense right away. It’s a crazy puzzle, love it!🖤

[@DeathStarLuke]

Oh shoot. Absolute banger of an interview. This is the band that got me into tech death.

[@DeanLamb]

Thanks!

[@eternallife9786]

Same!

[@bl00df4rt]

Hey Finn, People are watching these videos too. I know talking emo fests to elder emos gets views and Nu metal to Nu metal nerds, but people are watching these too. Love this shit. Please always do these. Thanks.

[@peterlendak1688]

Man I loved this interview. I love Trey Xavier's stuff on song writing and I listened to him talk with Dean as well, but honestly I got more from his creative process from this video than from anything else. And it was really inspiring. Kudos, Finn.

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

Thank you! Trey is awesome too

[@michaelsantangelo6192]

Love Archspire. Amazing band. Sick live. Seeing them again next week.

[@mikeb4858]

This is a really interesting interview. I fully agree that the frontman makes the difference; no offense to Dean and Tobi but every tech death band out there is a blistering riff machine. What sets Archspire head and shoulders above the pack is Ollie's unique and dynamic vocals. After watching this interview, I see it's also the band's work ethic and personal standards that make a difference. Stay tech!

[@Kotsoros37]

Love you're interviews Finn! Dean and Archspire seem to just get it!

[@rperezatx007]

Seventeen minutes into this and I just want to compliment you on your candor, your knowledge, and your excellent conversational style. New fan.

[@jasonlauritsen5587]

Dean's comments on the hook is entirely the IT factor that makes the great Death Metal bands. And that is what made Origin and Necrophagist the gods that they are, Origin with somehow making sweep picking and other methods of arpeggios be riffs that are some how catchy and almost hummable, and Necrophagist with making essentially Mozart with brutality mixed in and again somehow catchy.

[@icarivgustorvilski7913]

dude Just saw Archspire in Sydney... They are absolutely the gold standard... Live they are beyond phenomenal. Fucking legends

[@OmniTron1000]

I have always said "Oli is like the Busta Rhymes of Death Metal." Now hearing Dean say he loves rap just pushes that notion further for me. Great interview, really cool to hear Dean talk about their process, and influences. Just a really great conversation to sit in on!

[@cotomaznaczyc]

Such an awesome interview! More tech death, less deathcore!

[@fleshmotorcycle9427]

Learning Archspire stuff has absolutely enhanced my guitar playing, and they’re definitely the new standard, to where there’s a million clones of them, and I can’t even avoid cloning the style when I’m just having fun

[@disistheway2010]

Dean is such a great interviewee, he just rolls with the questions and leans hard into them.

[@CrypticJasmine]

For Dean who probably won’t see this and anyone else who loves unholy, check out the Empty Graves cover of that song on Spotify. Best cover IMO 💖

[@TheOktavismChannel]

So cool to see you have these guys on! Especially given your mentioning Origin and others in various videos, I felt an Archspire video had to be somewhere in the works.

[@dotherightthing9955]

This is a great interview. Sounds like two music nerds nerding out about music. A nice flow and engagement.

[@J1Nflo]

Great interview. Dean is the man

[@zetchTV]

The most metal podcast episode with no hair on either side of the call. Love everything that both of you put out, and I've been enjoying your videos for years. I have been waiting for the day you'd get Dean on! Dude really inspires me to keep practicing.

[@jason_108]

Great one with Dean. He & his wife have a fun channel too.

[@stuartharris-jones9433]

20.24 onwards.... damn.... This is just the ideology I wish I'd been able to find in bands... I love how a bunch of such crazily talented guys can do this without any egos destroying it. So much respect....

[@davidputnam463]

Great interview and conversation. Felt like I was sitting in on my two favorite uncles conversation at thanksgiving

[@krombopoulosmichael]

Right on Finn. This was a great interview. Dean is so chill. Love Archspire. VanCity Represent!

[@marktaylor6246]

Thanks for doing the interview. I checked them out and like what I heard.

[@uneartheros]

Yayyy finally got Lamb chop on the pod!!!

[@visarar1727]

I've now discovered Archspire... I'm 40 and have never done death metal... That changed today.

[@treewisemenllc7281]

I love Dean. I love archspire. Thank you for having him on. Great interview, Finn 🤘🤘🤘

[@michaelsaliani9441]

Love your deep dive interviews with these musicians Finn! Last one I watched was Adam from Lorna Shore and that one did NOT disappoint. Keept it up dude.

[@CrypticJasmine]

Fuck yes! Cattle decapitation!!! 💖💖💖 hearing Dean talk about them was one of my faves talking about my other fave 😍😍😍 Monolith was my favorite album until death Atlas but monolith is still a close second 😍😍😍

[@muenchhausenmusic]

Wow, I think this is one of the best interesting interviews you have had yet! The conversation went to so many places of interest, and some of the things said I resonated so much with that it was almost healing to hear it put into words. That whole thing about the high standards that some people have. I feel somewhat misunderstood in my band in that regard. More and more my bandmates understand where I'm coming from. For me, if what I'm doing isn't potentially really great so that I'd eagerly listen to it, then what's the point in even doing it? There's enough mediocrity going around already, I don't need to pollute the airwaves with more half-baked shit. And not being fully understood in this regard can get frustrating, so it was very affirming to hear you guys talking about this topic

[@Flockem666]

All the Archspire guys are sick af! Had the chance to meet them when they toured Australia back in 2019, still one of the tightest live acts considering the speed and technicality! Also Piss

[@47279J]

What a cool dude. Here's a band I would really love to see. And what a great dude to listen to. He has really interesting things to say and you really get a feel of his love for the music.

[@Mettle_DAD]

28:48 my friend back in the day was brought to tears by cradle of filths 13 autums a widow.....just how the base kicks accent the song. There is a song by slice the cake where the very first chord gets me because it sets the entire context of the song and i am emotionally attached to the song. Flesh god apocalypse, epilogue. The second the cello solo starts its just so gripping. But yea streight tech death has a very difficult challenge in making it emotional.

[@greglane334]

Fuck yeah! So glad to see my favourite Canadian on here

[@ryancurfman]

Great interview Finn! Two thoughts - as far as the “when is it done” idea, I think it’s having the eye of an artist in whatever the subject matter is. My wife is a painter, and she can immediately tell if her piece (or someone else’s) is “done” or not… and I cannot. Similar to barbering, editing, or any other form of creation. Secondly, I think one of the reasons that Dean and Claire have such great success with their videos together is because people like seeing people in happy relationships. It’s hard to capture that in a chill, fun, and informative way especially in such niche sub genre.

[@techdeth]

27:00 Dude! Yes, one ofnmy favorite riffs from you guys! he really did touch that sound that were all looking for when we think about that classical counterpointy sound that necro and spawn were so good at.

[@PizzaNife]

Great pod!! I’m one of those fans that got into Dean’s band strictly from his channel

[@StyxHackshop]

What a fucking ripper interview. Thanks to the both of you.

[@muenchhausenmusic]

Duuuude!!! I really dig Archspire!! Had never heard of the band before, but I checked it out after this amazing interview, especially what Dean said about him having "barely touched" that little special thing he feels when listening to certain classical pieces (very much a lover of e.g. Bach myself). I really like you guys' musicality! Also the production feels a little lighter than what I hear whenever I dip my toes into the modern metal pool (e.g. Periphery, Slaughter to Prevail, Wage War). Most of what I hear in said pool feels overly pumped on steroids, snare drum sound too massive, I get ear fatigue very quickly. Not with you guys. Probably a mixture of good mixing, good composition and more pleasant tones chosen. Hats off!! And what's more: I just played your music in the car while on a trip with my 70-yo mom. Medium loud in the background, so we could still comfortably talk over it, but also didn't have to strain to make out what's going on in the music. And after some minutes her ears perked up and she asked me what music that was. She also found it pleasant. I am proud to say that my mom is a very musically talented person, much talent that just never got developed. But it shows in moments like this 😀 It also helps that I trained her well when I still lived with her, by expanding her boundaries of acceptance through regular exposure to such acts as SOAD, Slipknot, Opeth, Dir en grey, Mucc, Scar Symmetry and so forth. So she can take quite the aural beating by now 😂 And she is by no means a metalhead. She just likes anything with high musicality. Cheers Archspire, and thanks, Finn, for the interview and the subsequent exposure 😊

[@yattmanntatt3360]

Thanks Finn!!! Stay Tech 🔥

[@witheredmedia]

that's a good point about getting older/more experienced inhibits creativity. one thing that has helped me in that area was branching out from just playing guitar into playing piano/synthesizer more. its kind of like a form of crosstraining in a way which is something pro athletes do to stay sharp

[@garrettrichard5100]

I learned about Archspire through Dean’s KZbin channel. Now I’m going to see them with Whitechapel this month.

[@koryhelm8515]

I definitely finished the Golden Mouth of Ruin album and immediately started it over!

[@youreaphagatron]

I've listened to and liked Archspire for a while. This interview made me want to listen to them even more now. Also fun fact: Archspire is Jason Mamoa's (Kahl Drogo from have of throness) favorite band.

[@mattwhite399]

Love Dean! Talented and hilarious!

[@WeAllFloatHere]

Love his channel and an insane player!

[@DemonstrativePronoun]

In response to the comment about the sparsity in Lorna Shore's music: Dean is totally right. I just saw them live and, aside from Will's vocals, the thing that stood out the most was when the only thing happening musically was a snare hit. Everything else cut out, they'd have a snare hit in one of those suuuuper slow breakdowns, and it reverberated throughout the theater like nothing else.

[@WoWMinGM]

Yeeeesss!! Excited to watch this!!

[@craigitr0n]

Recently got into Dean's channel that last few months and he's great.. that laugh of his kills me

[@PakaShreds]

DEAN!!! love archspire! seriously some of the best Metal ever made

[@franktothemax]

26:09 I couldn’t relate or agree to this answer any better. So very well said

[@Senzuballs]

Aw I love Dean! Great interview my dude

[@MetalDeathHead]

Beneath the massacre shirt! awesome, they are like a more brutal archspire

[@samuelkidwell6728]

This is a great discussion. I'm late to the party on Archspire but they kick ass.

[@brennuvargr4638]

"Those silences and breaks and gaps, they show you what parts are important" Case in point: Archspire - 'Abandon the Linear' at 3:02... The swelling, followed by the silence, followed by sheer fuckin' ferocity!

[@JayKayProductions]

Ah yes - let me join this gentleman discussion

[@dylan_monument]

Awesome interview Finn

[@830audio6]

This great insight as a producer/songwriter

[@TheRichie213]

Suffocation is my favorite death metal band.

[@jayt8368]

great interview man, you and dean really hit on some good shit in here

[@zandiskoul]

Sick lineup

[@bengreenbank]

Great band. Got my ticket to see them next year

[@Extreme-Music-Escape]

Dean's right, I jam out to unholy while wearing an at the gates t shirt.

[@niix0173]

For me the kings of tech death band will be ‘The Faceless’ their only guitarist that they have Michael Keene he’s on another level writing all that by himself, he’s a genius.

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

Agreed that he is a genius

[@sqlb3rn]

Necrophagist is king of tech death, but everyone has their own asshole, I mean opinion... Stupid autocorrect

[@bl00df4rt]

Would be curious to hear what you think of 200 Stab Wounds. I'm guessing it's not on the far enough into the extreme end of things for you. Have been really, really enjoying their new track "Masters of Morbidity." It takes everything I like from all death/thrash metal bands I love and jams it into one song.

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

They’re good! I’ve certainly heard it before but they do it wel

[@bl00df4rt]

@@FinnMckentyPRMBA totally fair assessment. That’s how I felt about Power Trip. It’s just exciting to have the opportunity to see a band that good at a reasonably sized venue for less than $150

[@Pygmyer]

Dexterous Technical Death Metal.

[@necroticpoison]

Dean is a music/musical genius, fr 🔥

[@830audio6]

Hell yeah!

[@Thomas7Panter]

excellent interview

[@1234553671]

saw them in NYC on the last tour. love that the band works their own merch table. vocalist was smaller than expected. 10/10.

[@Tonjit41]

7:15 this "no" is the best way to describe finn.

[@Jacksonnnnnnnnnnnnn]

Lamb of Dean slays

[@cgoodiefunk]

amazing video

[@308media74]

Yes !!! 🤘🤘Dean Rules.

[@edgardelgado7792]

Hey Finn, have you heard Gloire Eternelle by First Fragment? Dean mentioning the aspects o classical music he likes reminded about this album. Neoclassical technical death metal is what I've heard folks describe them. I'd like to know what you think. Cheers!

[@gluesniffer7993]

Dean is the fucking man

[@bolillo5013]

I love Dean

[@riff_junkie]

Not fan of interviews but this is genius 2 guys chatting about music writing and death metal

[@Dr_Zeus_official]

Maybe this defeats the purpose of the podcast a little bit, but having a few clips of the guests’ music would be cool, or any of the other bands referenced. I always hear you guys talking about a cool band and then immediately go to Spotify to look them up and never finish the podcasts 😂

[@sqlb3rn]

DEMONITIZED!

[@arrow2593]

that's cool and all but when are they gonna but their debut album spotify?

[@apoplexiamusic]

Which is better: Technical brutal death metal or Brutal technical death metal? Answer: Archspire

[@dragon13304]

I saw Archspire when they did an Australian tour a few years ago, they absolutely rip!

[@eligarcia182]

Fucking legendary

[@chrisw7347]

Make some Entheos content please, still under the radar for how good they are