The Knicks Might Be a Playoff Threat + LeBron & Tatum GO OFF on MLK Day | THE PANEL EP20

[@Emon31415]

Fluent is permanently the W host, he got through every single super chat. L Host Ron has been skipping dozens of super chats every time.

[@ratshq9828]

He is annoying and corny though

[@itszaaaamzeh]

Ron W host he be adding humor. Fluent a good mediator

[@sunnyballeralert]

@@ratshq9828 that's your opinion I think fluent Is one of the most favorite but doesn't care who likes em at the same time he's not that bias and he speaks the most facts.

[@sunnyballeralert]

And he doesn't pick sides.

[@ratshq9828]

@@sunnyballeralert don’t necessarily disagree but dont like his personality at all and there is always awkward moments after he tries to be entertaining. Lows reactions especially show it

[@dwhite-pu1ot]

Saying bron stop crying and win games but when Kobe’s lakers was down bad didn’t he request a trade ? 😂😂

[@YoungShadTv]

Exactly

[@Fiasco201]

Every PC basketball episode has turned into “why LeBron isn’t that good” for the past 2 weeks. That Kareem record doing something to people 😂

[@TonySoul]

got folks in their feelings. All over the internet.

[@jayrobb4892]

No, it has no meaning just like when Kareem broke the record 39 yrs ago nobody cares especially if he doesn't go to the playoffs and win the chip. Yeah, it looks good toward his legacy and is a great debate for goat convo. But as of right now, it means not unless he goes further than this season

[@mmvb4]

fluent when talking about lebron scoring 50: “how impressive actually is that in today’s game” also fluent: “vanvleet 33, holiday 35, curry 41, gotta give credit to the other BIG GAMES too !”

[@itszaaaamzeh]

Ox saying “gimme insert player” over a clearly better player is hilarious I be dying every time 🤣🤣🤣 underrated panelist

[@STT38]

Naw he just delusional😂

[@Leovold]

They didn't talk about Kareems scoring because it was cemented no one thought another player would break it. Lol

[@kingshottah4429]

Exactly they praised it like it was the most untouchable record in the game

[@bishopdaking717]

The panel is the best PC show, u get the full perspective of multiple generations of NBA fans.

[@sigh5276]

2:37:49 “this is a Lebron hate show” Chill: “it’s always like that” 😂😂 right lmfao

[@GregoSolo]

Marz only wants to talk when it’s to jump ticket 😂 I peeped that lol

[@LilBodyChris]

They hate eachother on this show fr😂

[@GregoSolo]

@@LilBodyChris facts lol. Ticket be bullying his ass tho. It’s funny when he try to finally stand up for himself 😂 😂

[@vonwill7823]

Marz scared of ticket 🤣

[@GregoSolo]

@@vonwill7823 yup 😂 😂 soft ass

[@JG4TheGOAT]

@@vonwill7823yeah im terrified

[@SydyS7]

Kawhi gave PG crazy work in 2017. And crazy how Fluent switched up when he talked about 2011 Lebron choking in the Bulls three peat and Jordan on the cavs 15-16😂

[@gideon7932]

⌚Timestamps⌚ 0:00 Show Starts 6:05 Distribution of talent around the league / LeBron James 40:30 Jayson Tatum expanding his mid range game 42:30 Paul George top 75? 45:40 Draymond Green top 75? 48:45 Tatum Vs Embiid playoffs 50:30 Paul George doesn’t know how to lead a team like Kawhi 55:20 LeBron James breaking the scoring record shouldn’t make him the GOAT 1:04:15 New Orleans season so far 1:15:30 Trae Young does whatever he wants in Atlanta and it’s hurting them. 1:28:30 The Knicks Might Be a Playoff Threat 1:39:13 Prime MJ on the Heat 2011-2014 and Bron on 1996-1998 Bulls how many do they win? 1:52:55 LeBron James not getting drug tested 1:56:15 Jordan Poole has a better start to his career than Steph Curry 2:03:56 Carmelo ranked all time with players with no chips 2:04:55 Gobert for Murray hypothetical trade 2:06:40 Kobe possible WCF MVPs 2:09:25 These players are Role players 2:12:20 Who shouldn’t be in the Basketball Hall of fame? 2:12:15 Draymond top 15 PF all time? 2:16:45 would Jordan average 40 a game in todays NBA? 2:21:15 Best bench player? 2:23:05 Paul George on 2019 raptors (hypothetical scenario) 2:27:20 How to value stats 2:31:22 Nate McMillan needs to take control of the Hawks 2:32:10 Steph and Klay all time duo ranking 2:34:00 LeBron prime years 2:38:50 Jokic back to back to back MVP 2:40:05 Performance enhancement drugs 2:41:05 Jordan Poole good enough to be a #1 option at some point? 2:43:45 Better playoff performer 2:45:10 Houston Rockets problems 2:52:15 Prime AD or Howard 2:54:00 cherry-picking stats 2:55:40 Overrated top 10 player all time

[@crimson6539]

Right on time 👍🏾🔥

[@orangejuice20133]

W man

[@mowas8620]

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[@pemp9606]

Could it be possible that because the star players are missing more regular season games, it is giving the role players more opportunities to develop because teams aren't relying on their lead guys to carry them as much. This leads to these #4-8 players on rosters getting more skilled, which leads to more players on the bench being able to play at a high level. Not saying it's the main reason for the skill jump but maybe it could play a factor. Also teams are just way better at developing young guys nowadays.

[@jayt1636]

most teams are better* nice analysis tho

[@LUCKIPUP]

that definitely plays into it, i think it just comes down to load management. There’s been a similar logic shift to baseball managers pulling pitchers out of games, managers dont leave in pitchers anymore, even when they are about to throw a perfect game, its all about load management now.

[@LUCKIPUP]

also just success in the playoffs comes with being healthy and to be healthy consistently year in and year out, you have to load manage. theres not a single team in history that won with all their star players out, usually thats when the series takes a turn for the worse for whichever team is dealing with injury

[@freddygee3558]

Good point

[@dwhite-pu1ot]

Nah this is literally a Lebron hate show and I’m a curry fan 😂 all the subtle jabs by fluent man you would’ve thought bron fucked tickets girl or some 😂

[@williamslaughter7474]

Ticket is so emotional it’s crazy, he get even more mad that Marz be monotone with him & don’t start yelling & shit. Ticket be salty af towards marz but gives none of that same smoke to Low who he says Marz is copying.

[@datboiJan]

Players choice anime show thats gonna be an interesting one lol

[@B4dafam]

Just bcuz LeBron doesn't go on social media and complain every time he's drug tested that means he doesn't get tested? U don't feel even a little goofy saying that?

[@xaviersmith7273]

These dudes horrible

[@Camzse27]

30 points per game for just over 16 years gives you 40000 points yeah I don’t think anyone is breaking LBJ record for at least 60 years

[@sigh5276]

2:19:02 “anything James Harden can do Mike can do 100x better” MJ is the only player everyone gives the benefit of the doubt . Zero evidence he can shoot threes “Add a Three Ball” why 😂 a lot of great three point shooters back then and MJ wasn’t one of them. It’s literally okay to say he’s not perfect at everything.

[@taquaywhite4503]

“He didn’t need a 3 ball to be dominant, it wasn’t a priority for him. But imagine if he took the time and got up as many shots as these guys today. He’d be one of the best shooters in the league. There’s nothing Michael Jeffrey Jordan, god himself couldn’t do” and then they’ll point to the years he shot good from 3 and not say how the line was moved in so he was shooting midrange jumpers not 3s

[@Hunchopronto]

@@taquaywhite4503 that’s his point , y’all find reasons for why his didn’t shoot threes . Just maybe he just wasn’t good at it

[@taquaywhite4503]

@@Hunchopronto Ik that, I was agreeing. I was quoting what old heads say about Mj thinking he’s god

[@ithinkimanaries2620]

That’s the most annoying part. Every player is allowed to have a weaknesses and faults. But for some reason when it comes to MJ everyone just gives him the benefit of the doubt that “he could’ve if he wanted/tried”. It’s really annoying because the man was unbelievable already as he was. Why do people have to try and make him seem perfect?

[@ralphdadon3026]

I’m pretty sure he still would’ve averaged 40 without become a great shooter. All he has to do is average 32 from 3

[@pimpinb11]

I just don’t see how Low can say Kobe is “top 5 eye test” and had better playoff competition “by a large margin” than Bron and MJ, but yet also says Kobe is the most overrated in the Top 10. At what point do we take skill/quality of opponents into account? If a player is great and went through harder competition consistently, I have to give extra points for that.

[@wellsfarqo8335]

If there was a two team expansion in each conference I would like to see jaylen brown and Anthony Edwards lead their own team.

[@aaronsansbury9514]

I think anthony Edwards is the best player on Minnesota right now so Kat can go to the other expansion

[@syzorst]

I'm glad Low called Bobby out on his BS. The guy be saying some dumb stuff.

[@SplashBandicoot5]

At this point they all be saying some wild stuff time from time

[@BIGOXMedia]

So I can’t like Stockton and Malone more than Steff and Klay?

[@BIGOXMedia]

I’ll say anything to battery pack LoW… it’s too easy

[@syzorst]

@BIGOXBOB Note that I said "some" stuff not all. Also and battery pack Low? I find that hard to believe considering you stay quiet every time he debunks your points. Just like the Scottie Pippen nonsense you tried to use.

[@BIGOXMedia]

@@syzorst You say it’s hard to believe but I say it’s quite easy, just keep watching.

[@sigh5276]

2:40:07 Fluent literally admitted to lying about Bron doing drugs because MJ had a gambling scandal. Saying Bron can’t be perfect because his lord and savior wasn’t . stupid conspiracy and stupid take.

[@BeanHoopz]

Don’t know why he keeps telling that wild ass conspiracy theory just cuz Jordan ain’t a saint 😂

[@dwhite-pu1ot]

These shows have a lot of bron haters man Jesus Christ 😂

[@darkriflekills]

44:22 when ticket digests what low just said 5 secs later 💀😭😭😭 Low: manu tony klay and draymond ... ... ... Ticket; Dray-mond?

[@Bigsmokee731]

Low definitely needs his own show

[@Facedamusic]

Seriously

[@TellHerNothing]

I respect low for still being so knowledgeable about the game considering hes way bigger outside of the basketball community nowadays

[@canadadry4609]

Why do people act like 1996-1999 shaq is the same guy as 2000 shaq who was at this point at his peak under the recently hired phil Jackson? The difference between 1999 and 2000 kobe wasnt huge. Kobe didnt take a huge jump until 2001. The difference between 1999 and 2000 was the hiring of phil Jackson and the impact he had on shaq the first 2-3 years coaching him.

[@yemoochy9553]

Everyone is a role player, the question is what type of role player, Superstar role, the main role, point guard role, basic role player, defensive role, rebounded role, Co star role, 6th man role and leadership role

[@kayoogeek]

Low must be in his villain arc

[@matthewburke5044]

Lol the dumb points ticket makes against players he doesn't like are entertainment. At least he says everything off the dome because that's obvious.

[@Vortexnicholas]

The load management rest crap needs to change ASAP I feel bad for the paying customer.

[@Tonyoung55]

Dude keeps Kobe Jersey in the back but never really has anything nice to say about Kobe lol 😂 called him most overrated Top 10 player

[@bobbofwar2451]

W HOST, kept Ticket quiet by messing up his mic. Fluent got super powers man 💥

[@0vern9K]

Who counts mvp voting placement as a accolade 💀

[@kjo2130]

Saying breaking the NBA all time scoring record means nothing is such an awful take it's cringe. I know Fluent hates lebron almost as much as Ticket does but sheesh.

[@Aubknowball17]

Fluent be on some weird shit when it comes to bron

[@pjspointofview1545]

These “Jason Tatum is a 2way player” Takes Are Crazy

[@laney423]

luis scola over draymond green is the nastiest thing ive heard all 2023

[@tashrif46]

23:46 very tough day indeed. A part of my childhood died when Kobe's Achilles snapped

[@tashrif46]

20:00 "I seen a dude this, I seem a dude that" - Ticket

[@AllThingsconsidered14]

Chill town just talking now because jayson Tatum literally fell in love with the turn around mid range fade a lot and people use to criticize him for it

[@korvinlasley8834]

No one talked about Kareem’s points because no one thought it would ever be passed

[@terrenceames]

Pizza party for another grown man is crazy😂😂😂😂

[@RIDGEMATIC]

Brady was a fool for not retiring after winning the Tampa superbowl

[@Mc-Frosty]

I think I can comfortably say Fluent is the best host

[@mmvb4]

nah the only good thing he did was get through every super chat, other than that he was corny and annoying

[@thechocolatewriter8680]

Jordan and Kobe are not virtually the same player. Stealing all his moves does not mean the player who stole them is just like him. There's a difference. That "same player" BS is one of the most ridiculous claims in the history of the NBA.

[@jaydenwhite3444]

I love when people say “MJ said he would do worse vs zone” not knowing he thought the zone that would be introduced would have no defensive three seconds Also, there was still hand-checking the year zone was implemented. We’re talking about today’s game where there is defensive three seconds, handchecking has been reduced and with the influx of threes spacing the floor Jordan would average 35+ easy.

[@robertwill8614]

Low has to pick a side either you hate LeBron or love him

[@JG4TheGOAT]

that is so dumb,maybe u can just be objective?

[@dangelostewart8784]

Big fan. First time live

[@destinedforgreatness3030]

Chill was right everyone has a role on a team y’all confuse role player with bench player like everyone has a role on a team draymond role is to play defense and playmake and set screens like role player ain’t a bad thing everyone has a job/role to do on a team

[@frankyee-laa942]

McHale, KG, Duncan, Nowitzki, Petit, Barkley, Rodman, Webber, Stoudemire, Giannis, Kemp, Rasheed, Kenyon, Hayes, Bosh, Gasol, Jermaine O’Neal, Otis Thorpe, Odom, Grant, Nance, Hayes, Malone, and that just off the top of my head. If I were to actually put more thought into it, I might be able to name 15 more player ahead of Draymond.

[@tashrif46]

57:58 LOW exploded with excitement

[@dwhite-pu1ot]

Marz gotta go off on ticket one good time 😂

[@williamslaughter7474]

He did when he called him out & ticket has been extra salty since

[@jonnstewart2023]

that guy that asked brady or Messi lol, ofc Messi is better, and marz put it perfectly, brady is considered the goat Cuz of rings while Messi is not only the most decorated goat level player but he's arguably the most talented to ever grace the game, he does things on a regular basis that make u wonder if he's human, especially when he was at his peak.

[@mortar_12]

You gotta take into consideration that rings is pretty much the most important metric as there isn't as much to compete for, where as in football the is multiple different competition. Messi clears

[@ratshq9828]

Dont think Messi is the most decorated

[@sunnyballeralert]

When chill sneezed no God bless you you dudes savages 🤣🤣🤣🤣chill a good dude for what isee but dammm.

[@matthewpraayjr.9797]

I never thought I would say this but the bill Walton disrespect needs to end. He won a league MVP and finished second the year before in MVP voting won the rebounding title and the blocks title 2x all NBA first team defense and averaged 18-15-7 as the center during his championship run with Portland his peak was that of an all-time great and was a valuable contributor on the 86 Celtics and 6th man of the year was one of the greatest college basketball players ever that is why he’s in the Hall of Fame. If it wasn’t for injuries, he would be one of the 10 greatest centers of all time. The conversation starts at seven. 1 Kareem 2 Russell 3 Wilt 4 Hakeem 5 Shaq 6 Moses Malone All of which are in my top 15 all-time

[@taylorsharifzadeh6031]

It’s wild to say beating Kareem’s record means nothing. We thought that shit was untouchable for so many years, now that it’s eclipsed it’s no big deal.

[@rodneysalazar2755]

Panel got caught up semantics Role player. Just say the franchise players vs supporting cast then. Supporting casts are built around the franchise players.

[@tashrif46]

2:20:43 thank you LOW. I got this Jordan detractors saying that there was no zone or help defences in the 90s is flat out lying

[@tashrif46]

1:10:36 damn LeBron and Durant haven't faced each other on a TNT broadcast in 4 years? That is crazy

[@jays]

U have no idea if Lbj has been drug tested... the idea is that Ja Morant spoke out about it hence is why you know it's happening. You think Lbj posting those things? No. Stop reaching

[@kjo2130]

We gotta have a discussion on how overrated J Crawford is .

[@escofrmdalou]

low is quick to bring up how pippen wasn’t the same player but look at dwade and chris bosh finals stats😭😭 lebron was on his own out there they were just names on the court

[@kingbucks2365]

Why do people only bring up PG13 mvp finalist? I dont be hearing that for nobody else😂😂😂

[@danielbaptiste9232]

scary playoff team will be sitting on their couch watching the playoffs

[@bobbofwar2451]

BigOxBob got quiet 😂😂 Stop with the lazy takes and get out ya feelings

[@tommycapone8926]

Fluent ain’t a good host man was flying through the super chats when it was interesting discussions especially on the kawhi and PG take

[@logicalthinker48]

Ticket said "DRAYMOND"

[@tashrif46]

2:35:37 damn Ticket advocating violence

[@Malikwright31]

PG never did 25+ until he got to OKC, he was not winning in Indiana only doing 22 & 23 a night (as the man)

[@tashrif46]

16:16 yeah Ticket calling out Chltwn again for dissing Jordan and uplifting LeBron in a subtle way

[@canadadry4609]

Kawhi way better than pg...lol. Offensively and defensively

[@dwhite-pu1ot]

Bobby be tryna act like he didn’t judge everything off winning and tryna act like he wasn’t serious when low called him out

[@highwayjunkieb]

Montana in KC was really lit ngl 🔥

[@isthatdave55]

Tatum's Celtics live in the ECF

[@tashrif46]

1:20:17 imagine firing the head coach because the star player does not want to improve and wants to do whatever he likes

[@hlj2560]

Saying pg would have hit those freethrows in the finals are hilarious pg choked so many times in the playoffs

[@christiancardus3850]

Nah Mars gaslighting ticket fr fr. We all knew he was gonna say Draymond is a Top 15 PF 😂. I’m here for the gaslighting

[@JG4TheGOAT]

i genuinely dont know,ive never thought about it

[@thechocolatewriter8680]

To say Kobe Bryant is overrated is just plain idiotic.

[@wellsfarqo8335]

The GOAT argument across all sports usually has one common factor that being team loyalty. However you define loyalty is up to you but Bron leaving the Lakers to win a championship on another team would be his 5th team .

[@applycontext9161]

No true

[@Jayyprice]

Pg has a deeper bag than kawhi but kawhi is just more efficient and makes more shots

[@ceojones7835]

1:59:08 "Curry was playing in a much more defensive oriented era.." 1:59:17 "...I didn't say much more, I just said more" 1:59:27 Mocks the other guy for being wrong when he was in the wrong lol What an idiot. Never argue with ppl like this. They will say anything to win an argument.

[@TheCosmicFailure]

Desmond Bane said his toe still isn't healed completely. But he said that he's going to play through it. So not every player is like BI.

[@jromeo8075]

That's a lie they did suspect him to be taking Peds when the whole list came out during his time in Miami. LBJ initials were the only initials on the list of MLB and NBA players who were caught buying peds from a pharmacy in Miami. There was a whole conspiracy that the lbj initials was lebron James since the pharmacist was in Miami the city he was playing in at the time.

[@mylaughingeffect3459]

Kid u need some pussy🤣🤣🤣🤣…Lying and acting like u the truth!

[@jromeo8075]

@@mylaughingeffect3459 you're no better 😂 getting aggressive for nothing but a comment 🤣

[@jromeo8075]

@@mylaughingeffect3459 all I'm saying is they're wrong saying they didn't suspect him taking any peds during his time in Miami. But they're always been rumours and allegations since then and even during his earlier years. If you can't engage in a regular conversation without the need for unnecessary comments then you're pointless comment brings nothing to the conversation just instigation and for what 😂 you gain nothing but just lashing out a random person

[@dp3of5]

@@jromeo8075 Eh you’re not correct though. Fans and, in your own words, rumors said it was Lebron. There’s 0 evidence anyone in the NBA suspected Lebron. I get the conspiracy but the reality is that nothing backs it up that the NBA suspected Bron

[@squidMB]

Im happy to see Seattle getting a team again in the next few years. While i agree with fluent saying they’ll add (or announce) Seattle and vegas in the next 3 years, for how long its taken them to get from 30 to 32 teams (assuming they’re waiting to add them after the CBA & TV deal) it makes me wonder if it’ll take longer then a decade for the NBA to get to 36 teams.

[@y2shuproblem]

Ticket is wrong about Draymond Green not being a Naismith Basketball Hall of Famer. Draymond Green is a future Naismith Basketball Hall of Famer.

[@ralphdadon3026]

Draymond shouldn’t be a hall of famer

[@Hunchopronto]

@@ralphdadon3026 why ? Your personal reasons about him?

[@ralphdadon3026]

A hall of famer to me is when u can be dominant on a category. And when I see draymond get benched and how he plays without steph and klay that says to me he isn’t a hof

[@ralphdadon3026]

And I never seen a hall of famer get benched in the finals. I never saw a team get better when a “hall of famer” went to the bench.

[@y2shuproblem]

@@ralphdadon3026 then how come Steph and Klay couldn't win a ring until Draymond became a starter a core of the Big 3? Steph, Klay, and Draymond are tied to each other when it comes to the current Warriors Dynasty and that will never changem

[@kingshottah4429]

27:28 Yes they do they bring it up all the time when mentioning his name what are we talking about. For years all I heard was that the all time scoring record was the most untouchable record in the history of the game

[@anthonycelestin3559]

Ticket Luka ain’t better than Jokic

[@jeremiahjohnson6368]

I just wanna know where was the energy when the lakers been losing before bron got there

[@Wavyboii-ol2vc]

Yo I ain't gonna lie ticket was not lying bout the drug test shit

[@TheDominiqueBallou]

Man Jordan quit twice!! Stop the cap!

[@anthony2b173]

Jordan didn't quit

[@bridgeboysdk4915]

Jordan playing baseball was also a business deal. He made money off that merch too. To walk away from 3 rings in a row in still crazy to me but it’s more to that shit for sure

[@tashrif46]

15:50 so glad that LOW and Fluent debunked the narrative that the expansion diluted the NBA in the 90s. Such a myth

[@VirgP24]

This Show needs a Great Moderator...Topics are Awesome but they Talk All Over Each Other.

[@Suge8263]

Yo when ticket start talking like the rock i damn near get into tears laughing 😂 my nigga can cut a mean promo 😂all was missing was dub

[@ronaldpowell8009]

LeBron couldn't coexist with the Bulls? That's crazy! He could make any team better imo!

[@tashrif46]

1:47:40 the 98 team was not even that great in maximizing Jordan's talents. And yet Jordan still found a way to win.

[@dougd120]

The other one of Pedro does exist.

[@tashrif46]

2:58:04 damn even Hailey gets a mention in this show🤣

[@bakebake2]

Crazy how much yall disrespect embiid lollll gonna be real tight when he win a chip & the mvp this szn

[@tashrif46]

1:16:04 I hate how all these players are getting all these front office cache based on one or two post season runs of their careers. Trae Young had one decent post season and now he thinks he is some big shot player. He was TERRIBLE last season the playoffs. And then he is going to fire the coach but not hold himself accountable and be a better player? Yeah okay.