Jesse Lee Peterson vs Destiny: 1v3 Election Debate Panel

Date streamed: 10/29/2020
Other Panel Guests:
Joe Collins
Andrew Klavan
Sherman Perryman
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Introductions
07:24 - Biden or Trump
14:34 - First Amendment
17:56 - Covid
23:31 - The Polls
33:37 - Trump Endorsements
39:23 - Voting
52:01 - Black Lives Matter
01:08:12 - Amy Coney Barrett
01:12:20 - Break For Q&A
01:18:57 - Q&A: Jacob Blake
01:20:21 - Q&A: Covid Vaccine
01:26:16 - Q&A: Voting Shaming
01:28:32 - Q&A: Drug Addiction
01:30:10 - Q&A: Per Capita
01:31:47 - Q&A: BLM and Cops
01:47:52 - Q&A: Reasonable Force
01:50:27 - Q&A: Breonna Taylor
01:54:40 - Q&A: Homeless Citizens
01:57:56 - Q&A: Role of Police
02:02:16 - Election Predictions
02:03:51 - Closing Remarks
02:10:09 - Conclusion
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[@insignia9989]

JLP is, without a doubt, the most charismatic stroke victim I've ever seen.

[@DaveChappeleIsGod]

Pepelaugh

[@leakybucket2898]

yeelaugh

[@rayraymartineziii]

Yooooo!

[@firebreathercat133]

@@leakybucket2898 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

[@agb2557]

You made my day

[@samturnbull3601]

People unironically yelling out "beta" is the gift that keeps on giving.

[@NickLengyel]

They don't have facts or have the mental capacity to have a discussion so they call people names like call them whatever you want outside of a debate but a debate is not name calling doesn't make you right. I think Destiny just enjoys listening to them just spout of BEEEETTTTAAA.

[@marufubi]

It physically hurts

[@srosie5504]

Why?

[@NickLengyel]

@@paulkerrigan9857 idk ive never in my life looked at someone and thought this guy is a beta male or alpha male in America is beta male like a pussy? Idk if its just me but idc wtf people are im to selfish

[@yamezjournal3916]

@@NickLengyel BETAAAA

[@SecondStage1983]

"You won't see conservatives whining about Joe Biden winning..." Well that didn't age well.

[@ennuiii]

someone needs to clip that lmao

[@FrankDaBank25]

They didn whine, they pointed out how horrible he is, and will be. Nobody with a brain can say hes not destroying our country, and hes not even 6 months in...

[@SecondStage1983]

@@FrankDaBank25 ha ha ha. Gasp* the horror of a stimulus bill and payments to the American people! The horror of an expanded child care tax credit! The horror of not making sure transgender people aren't discriminated against and can serve their country in the military! OH THE HUMANITY! QUICK! I can already feel my urge to put on a sickle and hammer shirt! Save me they are turning me COMMUNIST! Won't someone think of the Dr Seuss estate who got cancelled but didnt really actually because no one but his own estate made the decision without any outside pressure! Save me!

[@jaxstax2406]

@@FrankDaBank25 don't you dare threaten us with a good time

[@Bigchangues]

@@FrankDaBank25 he sucks because hes not left wing enough

[@eespinosa3578]

That one dude just saying “you’re right” anytime he gets frustrated is so childish dude it’s embarrassing, that’s how five years olds argue it’s pathetic

[@attav8]

Actually 5 years never admit they're wrong

[@phanatic215]

He's a smarmy dick. When he was asked about the definition of per capita, he incorrectly answers, then condescendly says "well I'm sure Destiny will have a different answer because he's always right.". He didn't know the answer and that was his was of trying to back out of it.

[@myttydohun4851]

@@phanatic215 Surprised he didn’t know what it meant, and was still confused even when steve explained it to him.

[@kstar1489]

He was so confident in not knowing basic statistics

[@kento2771]

I have a friend that does that and you basically give up on arguing with them because they will never attempt to make a rational argument.

[@Hawti20]

I still can’t believe that JLP is an actual person that walks this planet and not a made up character

[@user-fe8de2gu5v]

No way he's playing a character, there are videos of him going back decades and he's exactly the same. Everyone close to him confirms this as well.

[@danielcarr1297]

He's actually a Sacha Baron Cohen character.

[@thelandoctopuses1020]

Apparently someone found that he liked gay porn on Twitter so my bet is he’s just gay and suppressing it real hars

[@qactus4031]

I think he's playing a character, but this character is very much NOT far from real JLP. But I agree, there's something disturbingly amusing to watching this guy.

[@mayoandbananasandwich6527]

He’s the American equivalent of a pro-apartheid black man in South Africa lol

[@Jotakumon]

I'm starting to believe that JLP is the most committed Borat-type impersonator who realized that inviting Destiny over and over again allows him to take a break while Destiny dunks on the people that follow him.

[@karapto]

Facts😂

[@MrKiingpin]

I mean some of those jokes at the beginning were like they were from some Sacha baron Cohen satire

[@rebirthoflegend4797]

I want to believe

[@Dappis]

It has to be. And if it is he deserves a fucking medal for it.

[@gd8838]

I have this same theory, lmao

[@tizzyswank1545]

The fact that the crowd cheered for Joe misapplying absolute and per capita voting says everything

[@tizzyswank1545]

He’s also extremely selfish when it comes to the “vote for me, that’s all I care about” mentality

[@Dookieryan]

@@tizzyswank1545 I honestly can’t believe he’s trying to be an elected official with debating skills like this

[@LouisianaPwnsUrDad]

I really don't think y'all understood his point. Either that or just like Destiny, you wanna ignore it and call someone stupid. That's why Joe said "you're right". Have y'all ever heard of the term don't stoop to dumb people's level because they'll drag you down there?

[@raybrun6259]

@@LouisianaPwnsUrDad explain his point

[@kstar1489]

@@LouisianaPwnsUrDad the point of not understanding statistics?

[@quantumthirdeye2618]

"Donald Trump is going to win by a landslide" This aged like milk....

[@fredman2640]

Imagine running for congress and brushing off the definition of "per capita" as "too confusing". I'm at a loss for words.

[@yaqoubalshatti205]

Not to mention, he totally high-jacked that point that was about non tax payers not being able to vote being mostly black and latino and pivoted to whites are a bigger population with a higher number of people not voting (raw numbers obviously).

[@tkayuniverse3493]

I was just about to type this comment! lol The sad thing is that he literally is walking away from this thinking he is right.

[@pizzashopboys5657]

Idiocracy was a prophecy

[@honest_bishop5905]

Timestamp?

[@enknaran]

@@honest_bishop5905 can't give you anything exact but it happened after the 45 minute mark Edit 43 minutes in to be exact

[@bloodwolf2609]

The fact that he had to debate Jesse, Lee, and Peterson in this 1v3 debate is crazy.

[@seyniole1898]

That's such a beta comment 😂

[@Schmexy]

Alpha comment

[@Alexandroid_]

EY!

[@utopianeconomics5814]

@@seyniole1898 LESBIANS

[@musaandrews6990]

And lost to one of em 😂

[@Shreccz]

It must be nice to get up on stage, have everyone doubting you and booing you about biden covid etc, and being 100% right on everything. god I'd be rock hard rewatching this if I were destiny

[@michaelellis772]

What was Destiny right about?

[@ayo.4724]

@@michaelellis772 biden won like he said he would lol did you watch the video ? bc that was just one thing 😂😂

[@michaelellis772]

@@ayo.4724 That wasn't the debate topic, so I just ignored it. Destiny-stans usually praise him without really agreeing with his facts.

[@danpug9050]

@@michaelellis772 just off the top of my head he’s right about the fact the Breonna Taylor wasn’t a criminal. The dumbasses in the audience were just pulling shit out of their ass. She was not a criminal and even if she was she didn’t deserve to die. So he was right about that but much more too I’m just not gonna put it all here

[@ayo.4724]

@@michaelellis772 this is actually my first time watching destiny . had no idea who he was before this lol whatever debate topic ur thinking of .. still doesnt take away from the fact that he was right about biden winning so idk what ur on about

[@xXanderx87]

I was a destiny hater for a long time. But he kept coming across my feed as I watched other debaters. Over time I've grown to admire his approach and watching dude walk into a vat of stupidity undaunted. I don't think many other youtube personalities would be so bold.

[@MrDreadEnd]

I really enjoy him too and his approach to handling stupid. Sometimes I doubt the efficacy. I hate to compare him to a crowder as ultimately I believe his is more intelligent but his taking strong arguments to stupid people across the aisle was an interesting parallel. I will also say Destiny tends to be more honest with the data he employs than crowder. I really respect that. His biases are heavy af though just like crowder and shapiro.

[@AbysmalEnd]

Same I used to dislike destiny but I love his no nonsense style of debate.if you say something wrong or stupid he won't let you get away with it.

[@bradleyh4532]

I'm curious, what was it you hated?

[@xXanderx87]

@@bradleyh4532 I disagree with some of his takes, he's not far enough left for me to like him simply based on policy. And he will often use right wing talking points against people further left than him.

[@chaddad1488]

You were never not a fan, nice try, you gave yourself away by saying he just debates stupidity, showed your bias.

[@abdmzn]

Destiny debating the audience like he debates chat.

[@fawkumean378]

like a lone samurai vs 20 Mongols, the fucking cojones on this dude

[@crimsonwolf3421]

That guy is a beast no joke! Love that he put it out there that joe hasn’t been a president so how are you comparing them? What a senator had the ability to do and a president are vastly different.

[@justinvaughn3959]

is that a daily wire third stringer flunky spotting in the panel ?

[@tejaskumar9824]

hannibalburess.jpg "WHY ARE YOU BOOING ME? I'M RIGHT."

[@abdmzn]

@Miles cringe.

[@thezaneq8677]

The guy running for Congress didn’t even know what “per capita” meant. Help us all,

[@TitoLounge11]

Good thing he's gonna lose terribly. We can all laugh at him again when that happens.

[@prestonpulliam8053]

He couldn't even discuss anything without shouting over destiny trying to respond.

[@andrewdorazio5706]

He triggered me more than trump

[@juuk3103]

Then says it's confusing and people laugh, my god a bunch of smoothbrains

[@63Limar]

Another Titan next to Joshua Collins

[@lazysod3]

Destiny will never get enough credit for walking into a lions den like this, live. So many streamers who try to pick fights with him to boost their channels would be terrified to show up to something like this.

[@stevenx399]

Not really

[@LouisianaPwnsUrDad]

they literally gave him credit and clapped for him at the end. I definitely commend Destiny for doing this and the JLP show multiple times. He's def not strong in his beliefs because you can see when he dodges but at least he has the guts to look stupid spouting them, even though that rarely happens cuz of his 99 dodging skills.

[@bubblytortilla]

@@LouisianaPwnsUrDad months later how do you feel now?

[@LouisianaPwnsUrDad]

@@bubblytortilla about what? i still believe all those words

[@MonkeyDIvan]

@@LouisianaPwnsUrDad Can you give some examples of him dodging questions? Like csn you name atleast two or so?

[@ItssBriann]

"If trump loses, you wont see conservatives screaming". that didnt age well for ya... hahahhahahahahahhaa

[@TheChance1991]

At least they sounded like men screaming, and not a bunch of BETAAAAAASSSS!!!!

[@leomarvindiaz6733]

Destiny : your boos means nothing, I've seen what makes you cheer

[@sosaonthebeat1695]

@OMGitsTrauma I think it makes it a little funnier because nobody in the audience would have known that

[@Kerwell]

@@sosaonthebeat1695 assuming that show is anything more of substance than sponge bob

[@Keofodh]

That is a hitter though

[@chadgiga4213]

rick and morty is a good show but people ruined it by being stupid about it.

[@sosaonthebeat1695]

@@Kerwell I didn't really say it was I just said that I can't imagine anybody in the audience would have known what it was from if he said it.

[@cinna2453]

“you won’t see republicans crying-or asking to change the system if trump loses” >literally stormed Capitol January 6th 2021 lol

[@huntermushero9362]

Lol. I loved watching the Hillary supporters crying after Trump won and before the election I was thinking: wouldn’t it be really funny if trump lost and I could see them freak out too. Be careful what you wish for I guess.

[@DistrictN9ne]

"stormed the Capitol" they were quite literally allowed in. There's videos of Capitol Guards opening barricades and waving them in. Even as they marched through the halls of the Capitol building.. you can see Capitol Guards at attention right beside them. Welcoming them in. There was legit no resistance. And yet the media paints it as if they "overwhelmed" the guards and "breached" the Capitol. How convenient lol

[@IDKHeist]

@@DistrictN9ne this is explained by them being white :)

[@DistrictN9ne]

@@IDKHeist the hundreds of thousands at the scene of the Capitol were all white, right? I take it that includes the Black Lives Matter activist - whose black - that they identified in the Capitol Building too, right?

[@jaxstax2406]

@@DistrictN9ne There were people maced and bruised. There was a police officer who died from being bashed in by a fire extinguisher. So no not all the guards were there to simply let these people in.

[@smithfrederick2]

"I hope you have a friend with you on election night" holy shit that was actually savage and extremely dark

[@khalilfreeman7194]

Why do I feel like the entire audience is sharing one brain cell😂

[@CPI99]

It’s like a Bluetooth brain

[@user-qh9fy7fu4r]

Just an Update: Joe Collins lost the 43rd district to Maxine Waters 71.7% to 28.3%

[@artexjay]

Too bad they re-elected a race baiter instead of someone who doesn't know key words.

[@juanfelipe8484]

@@artexjay 😂 ikr

[@rubenlopez348]

What that fraud 2? 😂

[@DerEchteBabo]

Sad that a smoothbrain like him gets 30%

[@FunkVT]

oh fuck mans get destroyed

[@radishbroth737]

“If Donald Trump does lose, you won’t see conservatives screaming” How ironic.

[@youtubeistrash2]

Trump didn’t lose. People are screaming because the election shouldn’t of had universal mail in voting which is unprecedented and facilitated fraud.

[@MyGUNZ123]

I don’t see conservatives screaming.....

[@anticapitalist-pig]

@@MyGUNZ123 HOW ABOUT JANUARY 6TH?!

[@youtubeistrash2]

@Totally Serious Person exactly. nothing comes close to the depravity of a liberal.

[@radishbroth737]

@Totally Serious Person didn’t almost all of Trumps office turn on him? Or is anyone that’s not with Trump a democrat?

[@iamsaint144]

1:01:43 he's clearly never been in the military. From firsthand experience i can tell you: You do not, under any circumstances, use a knife in close quarters combat with someone who has a gun. Even if they don't, you always resort to a firearm first, and anything else last. The same is most likely taught in the police force. Because a gun is always, no matter the distance, more dangerous than a knife.

[@TheHillkiwon3000]

Watching destiny answer their questions with facts and hearing "so you have nothing" is frustrating

[@flatplant]

Conservatives like to say Steven wouldn't be as confident when face to face with them. Destiny:

[@EskiLdn]

He still acts like that under protection. Does destiny talk to people like that in bars? Clubs? In restaurants, out shopping. This isnt consider civil and most people dont speak to each other the way destiny does

[@BabyJesusBro]

@@EskiLdn the point of his comment your head

[@daggertheswagger1118]

@@EskiLdn yeah being social doesn't equal to being confident. so what?

[@amir_soldier]

yea he got shit on 😂😂 that’s what happened

[@tommykirkland9018]

@@amir_soldier That Joe guy did get shit on you're right man 🤣🤣🤣 when they got mad at destiny's arguments they had to resort to middle school tactics "no you're right, I'm wrong" because they were so defeated, it was so good !

[@trime547]

Joe: Says a word. Audience: 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@drock9009]

Just like a cult. Reminds me like a trump cult rally.

[@kinghassy334]

JPL advocates for feudalism lmaoo 1:07:49

[@lightyagami7734]

@@kinghassy334 god he’s so dumb lol

[@amp52]

They probably don't even understand what's going on. They just see what they think is a Lib getting owned by a Conservative so they clap.

[@paulaagam5071]

Literally seals lmao

[@b.p.emma.]

“hes gonna win by a landslide!” feel that? that, is situational irony

[@GuyMcDudeman]

Damn, Destiny. You did great, even when they lowered the volume on your mic. I only wish I could have seen their tears after the election.

[@brentisverycool]

Joe: "I don't vaccinate my children" Destiny: *Closes eyes* Had me dying

[@levi_shutup3440]

Time stamp?

[@BradyH542]

It will have Joe’s kids dying too

[@Thekickinyourface]

@@levi_shutup3440 1:21:35

[@Alic4444]

@@BradyH542 touche

[@alejandrorapag9032]

@@theludvigmaxis1 I surprised it took you more than 1 hour to realize that lol

[@ruhl1045]

"i'm an accounting major" >has no idea how proportions or ratios work

[@jaxmanf]

It’s called a grift, I’m 90% sure he knows exactly what he’s saying and how bullshit it is.

[@PlumCrazy392]

Or he does and is a bad faith actor

[@LotsaJelloChannel]

@@jaxmanf Yeah I thought he was just uninformed but that little shoulder tap at 1:31:11 tells me that he's grifting super hard

[@jaxmanf]

@@LotsaJelloChannel also he seemed to know the correct answer to the original question and just tried screaming over Steven to make him inaudible

[@gttryhyujytudtgjghjdcjdg998]

Affirmative action. Hire a white or asian accountant

[@gimmepeas]

joe can literally say anything and the crowd will start sobbing with praise and claps holy shit

[@scaggly9239]

Joe was so proud of himself, when he shouldn't have been. I liked his silent retreat from debating masked as a hard-earned victory. 😂😂🤣

[@BrunoBeltran]

I'm so triggered that the crowd seems to agree that not understanding stats 101 is a burn.

[@Gilgameshh]

That guy didn’t even know basic percentage mathematics, yet he was talking so much.

[@sirgodricenwardsaier9074]

The definition of the word "disproportionately" isn't even stats 101. I'd be slightly forgiving if they were actually talking about t-tests, basic regressions, or confidence intervals. This is just impressively stupid.

[@vicariouschism86]

@@Gilgameshh most idiots are incredibly cocksure so it's not surprising, not even a little bit.

[@vicariouschism86]

@Andrew Stevenson this was posted a less than a minute ago and already has a like. Way to like your own post, my dude.

[@ditokelio7860]

The guy just didn't understand what destiny and the old guy was talking about. He just ignored the part about taxes

[@TheHenranMan]

Joe Collins doesn't know how proportions work. This man is running for Congress.

[@why8476]

At least he has no chance of winning.

[@AjaxFerrariLeafs]

Wazzup with people whose last name is Collins and who don't know jack shit facing Destiny running for Congress?

[@ssuuhhdduuddee7354]

@@AjaxFerrariLeafs I don't know but its starting to get eerie

[@Breadbored.]

It's really sad how many people are just terrible at math. I don't expect everybody to be John Nash, but it seems like understanding very basic probability and statistics is too much to ask of a lot of people these days.

[@Corvega]

It was his poor community's schools fault not his.

[@901polahsvs]

How much is destiny eating his own words now in 2023

[@LukeMcGuireoides]

Destiny was actually pretty badass here. Thumbs up

[@richardhill7050]

When the argument against liberal policy is “per capita is too complicated”

[@raz0rcarich99]

I really want to die now

[@augustusgloop4314]

@Nick Bacigalupo LMAO

[@anthonypilkay802]

That man is running for Congress as well it’s disgusting

[@gentlegiant7999]

Wignats understand per capita

[@toastman4445]

​@Nick Bacigalupo A policy is being signed into place, it will affect 18 blue people and 30 green people the population of blue people is 500 while the population of green people is a trillion. Which group would you say is more affected by this policy?

[@OrganicDolphin]

Destiny sitting there in a room full of people who disagree with him and speaking so coherently and confidently is really admirable.

[@cozie6121]

Yeah, i have a lot of respect for him for standing his ground. I can't imagine myself in his position

[@OrganicDolphin]

@@cozie6121 yeah those people seem like the ones who would be fine getting violent too.

[@donavin2297]

@@OrganicDolphin keep going, keep going

[@daniferris980]

It's just too bad he is an idiot

[@SocBeefBoi]

@@daniferris980 Like how though? Hes clearly checked out facing these low bar arguments that he's already talked about before.

[@depressedpanda5711]

1:21:37 the pure pain in destiny's face when he said that just fully embodies all my feelings for this video.

[@dustindemuth1502]

i dont always agree with you but im glad you upload every full debate. thanks for being you

[@BERRYBEEMSTER]

This debate is one of the worst and best things I've ever seen. God help us all.

[@poxylandgamesers959]

I'm in East Sussex, England. But I still seethe buckets of msg

[@JEFFISCOOL6]

Amen

[@sydneemikumuren9812]

Unironically this

[@HolyCanoley]

Dammit...this happened just a few days too early. A few days after this "debate", JLP publicly like a gay porn tweet on his official Twitter account.

[@sgtpatton]

when the guy running for office went on the tangent about black people not voting completely missing destinys point i died inside, then he said it disproportionately affects white people cuz theyre the majority my dead body died

[@colemeyer4610]

“I was not vaccinated as a child” *clapping*

[@xbet2005]

Thats a good thing

[@brunolevilevi5054]

@@xbet2005 why?

[@dickensanthony]

@@brunolevilevi5054 I’ve honestly noticed children that weren’t vaccinated as babies and they just seem... “faster” than vaccinated kids. Not like vaccines give people autism or anything like that, but as someone who used to babysit, I’ve noticed a difference

[@mauishingles4257]

@@dickensanthony “faster” as in faster in dying?

[@davidhammer28]

@@dickensanthony They seem "faster." What in the flying fuck are you talking about?

[@mattvanderschyff4632]

the fact that jesse lee peterson struggles so much with the frankly rudimentary concept of holding a microphone to his mouth is all you need to know about his intelligence

[@welldonesir3996]

There are several kinds of intelligence. Jesse Lee Peterson is quite warming. Destiny is chill to frustration rant but not totally bad. Jacket Politician Black Guy- Idk he Black. Middle Ground Black guy- he’s chill And the bald guy- fair not much more since he didn’t have a lot of talk time.

[@tyebrown7680]

This man is talking about how Trump is the first president to make a law for minorities. Has he never heard of Obama Care, or the fact that Lincoln literally abolished slavery.

[@Wyldren]

Destiny walks into a room of conservatives. Destiny is the only one that walks out.

[@minhuang8848]

because everyone else takes twenty or so minutes to climb on their mobility scooters

[@DeuPKay]

I thought hobgoblins crawl.

[@vicariouschism86]

@@minhuang8848 I laughed at this way harder than I should have LMAO

[@jmadluck]

How ... Is this real? The audience laughter to jesse saying things like "I'm black and slow so I don't understand numbers" and "you jews always messing things up" seems like some sort of absurdist Eric andre sketch

[@shanedsouza189]

Art imitates life

[@danco.9883]

Time frame

[@abandoned-mines-novascotia]

It's called silly/funny ... get over it

[@LB-mr8qv]

The anti-vax segment seems so absurd it felt like i was watching something staged or it was an eric andre skit minus the funny. Being anti-vax during a pandemic. Only in america.

[@yeahokaycoolcool]

@@abandoned-mines-novascotia I mean Eric Andre literally does comedy sketches. You really thought you did something there lol

[@BuuhBlocks]

Collins straight up lied about Kaeps stats lmao

[@swoopingeagle1444]

I can't believe destiny didn't take his own life in the middle of this. One of the most kind numbingly stupid gatherings of people you could ever put together

[@Malixys]

Destiny this entire panel: Your boos mean nothing, I've seen what makes you cheer!

[@snowball8146]

Probably one of the funniest Rick and Morty references I've seen in a comment section

[@empiricus2211]

Actually exactly the same thing lol. Amazing how similar

[@jlindsay]

MTV | Politics | Pied Piper | Battle for hearts & minds kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2iUeqmIop6In9k ?342

[@jorgevaldes6160]

The guy sitting next to Destiny learned how to argue from Trump, just interrupt everything the other person says and pretend what you just said was a real response to a question.

[@huntervkiller]

OMG when he fucking made the comment about speaking fast and you sound right, I was like, LOOK IN THE FUCKING MIRROR DOOD? I mean the guy spoke so fast sometimes he wasn't getting words out.

[@Googlrr]

Those guys aren't as scary to me as Daily Wire guy. Right off the bat he comes out with the 'Democrats are a socialist party that hates the 1st and 2nd amendment'. He's articulate enough where he doesn't sound like a complete dunce saying it and I think people actually listen to that guy. This is the kind of guy that I picture boomers like my mom listening to and believing

[@monilith811]

Are you serious? That’s all Destiny does is interrupt. His whole debate strategy is just act like he can’t believe what the other person is saying and interrupt them.

[@Googlrr]

@@monilith811 There's no way you mean that in good faith. Destiny for sure yells a lot but you can't watch this debate with Joe here and think that Joe doesn't just yell over him every time Destiny tries to complete a thought. Destiny usually seems to match another persons energy or go just a bit over them and in this case this guy came out the gates screaming. What do you want Destiny to do, just let him scream over him while Jesse ushers on the next topic without letting Destiny respond?

[@OpethTheater3]

I love watching destiny get yelled/lectured by a black man. Karma does exist

[@leonardalvarez9381]

Thank you Destiny! Great video.

[@ronaldcatullus]

I can’t stop saying “A M A Z I N G” after each and every utterance

[@screamsfromhell]

I love that Destiny brought Internet blood sports into irl

[@Daniel-db2mr]

@God of the Hebrews SOY Clap

[@jdthepeacefulcondolence4610]

@God of the Hebrews #facts

[@screamsfromhell]

Real talk does Jesse have FAS

[@urbandresses6102]

@God of the Hebrews basically what you're saying is JLP is so dumb that a rap video is more educational than listening him debate for over 2 hours? Yeah seems about right

[@SuperSHADOWVIRUS]

@God of the Hebrews okay hotep

[@Elchinodiabolero]

"The Jews always startin' trouble" Are we all aware of the implications of that sentence?

[@prestonpulliam8053]

Everyone smiles at that line except destiny. Like wtf?

[@ReddoFreddo]

These panels are giving me monkaS vibes, they feel a little too far right to show up to.

[@levvy3006]

Casual Antisemitism

[@thedarklord6941]

Timestamp?

[@crushproductions6483]

@@thedarklord6941 50:37

[@franciscomatthews1344]

Any minimal respect I had for Joe Collins went out the window when he couldn't understand the different between absolute and proportionate stats

[@CoachellaValleyCopWatch]

you really held your ground my man, we propud of you huge always speak the truth bro

[@nebulaxiii5533]

More like 1 vs 4 debate. Jesse was not a moderater.

[@justinvaughn3959]

"everything the gubmnet does diminishes muhh indivjul freeeEEEEEdomz, like when they built the roads and sht" -bird brain andrew klavan

[@nixedification]

The 1v3 was Destiny vs everyone but that chill black guy who sat on the right side

[@ozean1243]

More like a bunch of kids who just ate a bunch of candy this wasn’t a debate this was 5 childish morons

[@matthiasnm4279]

1v5 the crowd hopped in sometimes

[@kretarosdarker6395]

I came here to simp for this girl, but I am already too late so nvm...

[@isaiahthomas6744]

I don’t know how destiny does it. His tolerance for stupid ppl is so high

[@Keldrath]

Comes from a decade of hands on experience.

[@entova]

@J. J wtf did hate speech have to do with it

[@tobias7001]

@J. J what did you say man?

[@rambo3rd471]

Holy crap, seeing that dude next to him make dumb points, and then the crowd would clap, that made me laugh so hard

[@mrcheckhammmer]

Destiny is a very bad talker/debater

[@nataliep6385]

This was very impressive, Destiny! Hats of to you

[@mesheepooh22]

Destint ... you are a friggin HERO, SIR!!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾❤❤❤🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾

[@christopherwilson2461]

“So you can’t think of anything?” “I just gave you two things.”

[@L0neSiPh0n]

Immediately pivots to a different question for another guest.

[@emeraldtragedy7028]

@@L0neSiPh0n the host is a knuckle dragger. “DOES IT SACRE YOU THAT BLACK PEOPLE VOTE FOR TRUMP?!” I fell like he generalized destiny based off his skin color. Ignorance at its finest.

[@L0neSiPh0n]

@@ogslowdragon They were literally on point. But nice try.

[@egalart]

As a black man, hearing Joe talk is hella cringe. Watching this was CRINGE, I can't image how Destiny feels

[@ehsan_kia]

He seemed fined at first, then he went on a whole spiel about how all COVID deaths are fake and the cost of hospital beds and tirade of other conspiracy theories... what's the point of debates like this when the people you're talking to live in an entirely different world where they can hand wave 250k more dead people away? EDIT: "I don't vaccinate my children" oh my god, just when I thought he couldn't get any worse. EDIT2: I just looked it up and it looks like he lost pretty badly in the election so there's that.

[@rodbar6352]

@@ehsan_kia Reminder: if Biden was president those would’ve been 2 millions deaths because Sleepy joe would’ve never closed off borders to China.

[@bojangles3518]

rod bar yea sure buddy keep your wet dreams to yourself. Trump failed and 200,000 is still better then how many trump has killed.

[@DaGhost_]

Hes literally so racist and everyone just laughs It off like tf Republicans are wierd as hell

[@lakeshow3237]

Beta

[@tomanyvidegames]

This is the most frustrating, hard and beautiful thing to watch. :,)

[@Kolonite_]

Imagine your side having a whole room of people to debate your points and losing to one guy lmao

[@sellabe]

i guess JLP really does love getting his cheeks clapped alongside a bunch of guys

[@DeuPKay]

Do you think of everything in terms of gay sex ?

[@QrowNora]

@@DeuPKay that's the meme

[@danielslama]

@@DeuPKay it's a refrence to the fact that JLP liked gay porn on his twitter

[@DeuPKay]

@@QrowNora Iwasonlypretending.png

[@OkyioBlack]

@@danielslama Wait he did WHAT?!!!

[@Gertyerteg]

"I'm not afraid of voter fraud unless the Democrats win" - Joe Collins 2020. The self-awareness is real.

[@drewkavi6327]

he is joking bro

[@utopianeconomics5814]

@@drewkavi6327 Right, "joking."

[@Gertyerteg]

@@drewkavi6327 yes because whenever an official running for office says something stupid, they are "joking"

[@AndreastheRed]

@@Gertyerteg hahaha it's just a meme haha

[@aaronh4213]

/r/LeopardsAteMyFace

[@sameash3153]

"all you potheads better roll some extra joints cuz you gonna need em" literally rolling a second joint atm

[@suzimonkey345]

Thank you for posting! This is fascinating! (I’m not American)

[@Sleepyjackable]

This is embarrassing not fascinating lol

[@suzimonkey345]

@@Sleepyjackable embarrassing or fascinating? 2 sides of the same coin really! Just depends on perspective!!

[@highecuador1873]

When the white boy wins the rap battle

[@donavin2297]

It gets shaky afterwards

[@THB_DX]

Joe Collins lost to Maxine Waters by 44% LMAO

[@TitoLounge11]

You love to see it

[@oddfellow8366]

Lmao... I actually had some minor respect for him, until I saw this debate. He was so immature and there were some topics where he struggled badly. He regurgitated numbers, yet didn't understand them. I thought he was more open minded, but this video showed me how close minded he really is. I'm not the biggest Destiny fan either, but at least Destiny knew and admitted when he wasn't sure about something. This guy just acted immature even when some valid points were brought up.

[@oddfellow8366]

@Robert F uhu...sure thing....

[@finiteenergy7155]

You win destiny,, you win 😏

[@oddfellow8366]

@Robert F Uhu, sure Fred... Trump's losing every lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit. If there was "soooo much evidence" out there, then why are Trump's lawyers struggling so much to provide any evidence?

[@BjarturMortensen]

Watching these classics in the Great Content Drought of June 2022 is great

[@randomguy4781]

more like 1 v 25, including the audience and phone calls. and Destiny still won

[@ccole1255]

you can FEEL Destiny holding back on Joe Collins not wanting to embarrass him about not understanding "per capita" or the meaning of "disproportionate"

[@ArnoSchmidt22]

nah, Joe Collins was right. it's just that Destiny is racist, he has the "soft racism of low expectations" and thinks black people will always lead the worst stats, because deep inside he actually believes they are inferior, just like every leftist did since Karl Marx. in fact, most people that are unemployed in the United States are young, white men. so if there was a law that said only tax payers could vote, most people that wouldn't vote would be actually white. Destiny is just a condescending, schopenhaueristic arguer. He always argues character and comes from a positivist epistemology background, he cannot argue in logic (even if he thinks he does, because he confuses logic with empiricism), much less understand ontological arguments. He will NEVER talk economics because he knows his keynesian bullshit can easily get thwarted by a more sowellian or even austrian approach to economics. He is an SJW through and through, just a more sophisticated one. He would never, ever, ever argue with a real conservative.

[@kidpen]

@@ArnoSchmidt22 Joe said that it can't be disproportionate because there are so many more white people than black people. No matter how you try to spin it, this is a misunderstanding of the word disproportionate.

[@ArnoSchmidt22]

@@kidpen nope, it isn't. trying to make it about proportions is trying to advance a false premise. only people that care about equity think in proportions when it relates to groups. only collectivists. but groups don't matter, individuals do.

[@kidpen]

@@ArnoSchmidt22 but Joe's argument was not that proportions don't matter, it was that population size is relevant to whether a stat is disproportionate, which is untrue.

[@ArnoSchmidt22]

@@kidpen and Destiny's argument was that the proportion of a group of people voting matters (which tells you that he's actually racist and thinks black people all think the same) which is untrue. so they were both wrong.

[@johan_r59]

Destiny debates 100% of black Trump supporters at once AMAZIN'

[@timayjust]

I think you'll be surprised on election day

[@nguyentri3608]

Technically they’re not black because according to Biden, “you ain’t black if you don’t vote for Biden”

[@nikolastiscareno4963]

@@nguyentri3608 this is true 100 percent

[@otisthebunny]

lol you're an idiot but that's a funny joke

[@jlindsay]

MTV | Politics | Pied Piper | Battle for hearts & minds kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2iUeqmIop6In9k ?342

[@attumsky123]

I have to love how they think yelling over destiny will only make them “right” yet when he does the same they get more and more angry LOL

[@groudyogre]

Not sure how Destiny is still sane after living through this. I almost went insane just watching.

[@Gametastica]

Your boos mean nothing to me, ive seen what makes you cheer - Destiny 2020

[@drock9009]

Sooo true!! He dominated the debate. I also didn't mind Sherman.

[@toddpacker4683]

@@drock9009 shannon as jlp called him

[@theblankslate8324]

I seem to recall that was originally a Christopher Hitchens line, but I’m not sure.

[@Gametastica]

@@theblankslate8324 its a rick and morty line, destiny never actually said that, that's the joke

[@hahahahahahahhaa6430]

All debates should be moderated by jesse for comic relief, in my opinion.

[@L0stwitn0nam3]

But lowkey have a decent moderator operating the mic muting to keep some type of flow.

[@chadwilliams9141]

HEY HEY SHUT UP The perfect moderator.

[@mrreeves33]

WHAT THE!?

[@tuckerdrums3514]

He’s actually hilarious

[@weebemo1144]

@@L0stwitn0nam3 BEEEYYTAA

[@roberteriksen6434]

45:20 Our man having his moment in the spotlight 45:39 Our man non-vocally begging Destiny to please not embarrass him in front of all these people 45:44 Our man heriocally tries to change the subject to avoid being called out 45:46 Our man audaciously talks over destiny's explanation of his error to avoid the audience being aware that he just made a seriously bad take 46:11 Our man retreats to moral relativism to discount a very legit critique of his take 46:42 Our man gives an even worse take to overshadow his previous bad take. Truly a disciple of the Trump school of non-thought. 47:02 Our man concedes his point immidiately :(

[@theairbornegib5932]

Rip our man;(

[@FringeSpectre]

This comment is criminally underrated.

[@brooktewolde5775]

Loved that even our crazy protagonist JLP defended his friend. Jesse made an important friendship to dismantle bullshit personal arguments on that scene

[@tylarjackson7928]

​​@@brooktewolde5775He did defend Destiny a little there. When Joe basically called him an idiot, Jesse said "No Destiny is smart, leave him alone. An intellectual". I think Jesse and Destiny are genuinely - friends? There is definitely something there. They don't hate each other, but not sure how to define it.

[@Canibal_Animal]

Racist

[@gustavsvane4664]

Damn it feels good to watch this past the election and inauguration:)

[@Pause0]

"I am 100% white" Don't worry Courtney, you didn't need to tell us.

[@JesusHChrist2000]

I get a creepy feeling from him.

[@nsaylor9]

@George Sander A black. lol

[@TheReichboy]

she's also the lady that wouldn't get off the Uber car

[@mcg1142]

when Jesse doesnt understand wtf destiny just said: AMAZIN

[@immortalcoils93]

Who's here after the election laughing along side Destiny at the bald white dude? 😂😂

[@LiyoungMartin]

I wish during the heated back and forth starting at around 45:00, Destiny could've responded to some of those stats points a bit quicker. His delay in response really made the audience think the other guy had a good argument.

[@Alexandroid_]

"stop talking about disproportionate black people this that and the other" *2 iq audience member claps loudly*

[@weefeatures]

That audience member's thought process: "He didn't say anything but I like how he said it"

[@nerdhamster3055]

I can only see pain in Destiny’s eyes. Destiny deserves better.

[@coreytaylorsneck7931]

He loves it really

[@J1N6666]

no, that's pleasure in his eyes

[@emiii8511]

Destiny listens to this while having sex

[@theweatherdog1816]

@@coreytaylorsneck7931 He looks miserable

[@LiiRAE.]

hey its content homie, I bet he enjoyed this fully

[@another.nikhil]

This is great!

[@doha015]

AMAZIN

[@deivisrivas1249]

The way this Joe guy talks sounds like hes saying facts and dunking on everything because of his confindence, and the audience eats it. Pretty sad

[@emeraldtragedy7028]

Cult of personality in effect

[@SnakeTheHat]

That's rhetoric for you.

[@crobeastness]

im a conservative and even i was cringing at a lot of stuff he said. Andrew was enough for the conservative side anyway

[@ChichiNaka]

@Meat Grinder Mike I felt like he was more in the 'I can spend thousands of hours of my life (like everyone else on the stage) thinking about this, worrying about this etc or I can just live my life knowing nothings going to change for me regardless

[@xaviercosme1284]

This aged so well for destiny

[@lewcah2534]

yah he made like 40 bucks

[@Pedal2theFloor22]

Like a fine wine

[@The0Matador0]

You mean he still likes to be a condescending passive aggressive douche

[@jaydon5803]

@@The0Matador0 no. He means he was right about Biden winning. Also, I would argue its much more douchey and passive aggressive to refuse to argue with someone while ur literally on a debate panel and instead say "ur right ur right" sarcastically. Not to mention his passive aggresive ad hom attacks where he was throwing shots at Destiny's intelligence.

[@daybolden2545]

Destiny did his thing, respect to him

[@ashleecantu6470]

If Trump loses, you won't see Conservatives...Literally saw everything he said we wouldn't see and then some 🙄

[@Laihoistheman]

I like that p**** Joe couldn't let destiny explain the numbers thing he had to talk over him cuz he know if destiny was able to talk he would get destroyed, he had to pull every rhetorical flourish out of the book just to avoid that.

[@JustTheFacts530]

wait, Joe Collins, thinks, per capita stat, is too confusing?????? is he forreal?? Update: Joe Collins lost disastrously. There's hope afterall.

[@crimsonwolf3421]

Yes. Hence why I feel bad for the community if he wins.

[@hurkamur1]

It is completely evident that he's a product of the worst education in the country.

[@crimsonwolf3421]

@@hurkamur1 which is true and I know he claims to want to fix it... but he is unfortunately going about it the wrong way. You can’t buck the system because you don’t understand it. Same can be said about our president. Hopefully the country has learned and we write our wrong today. If not 4 more years of this and it will be the new norm. We will deserve everything that comes our way.

[@nielsbaumann6485]

You said numbers. You said numbers. YOU SAID NUMBERS! What a moron

[@aliabdoli8338]

Ngl, he is right about destiny's explanation tho. It was super confusing and he could've easily done a better explanation.

[@breydanhammer8417]

I honestly laughed when he announced JLP as the "moderator"

[@oOPPHOo]

I read your comment so I knew it was happening... I still audibly laughed.

[@tayo17923]

@@trax72 that last part is on point I don't know what else you expected LOL

[@CH-ls7ye]

@@trax72 my disappointment would be immeasurable if it had turn out any other way

[@yaqoubalshatti205]

In fairness, he did not disappoint in the humor department ironically and unironically if that makes sense.

[@faust3530]

Jlp just starting at Destiny and the other guy yelling at each other was peak comedy not gonna lie

[@welldonesir3996]

As a JLP subscriber fan, I very much dislike the conservative Republican Black Politician. Literally the entire video shows why I believe this. Destiny is a Alpha male.

[@welldonesir3996]

My fucking favorite part. 48:09 Jesse lee Peterson giving credit to Destiny.

[@welldonesir3996]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqWqoKl7m996brc

[@Tooldruid]

Amazin!

[@ninjafukwan7]

hahahaha 😆🤣

[@adamsoundcloud4248]

I love the guy literally doesn’t understand disproportional

[@KP-xn6tl]

Neither did the audience. What an absolute dumpster fire. Excluding Destiny, the room had a combined IQ of about 47

[@n8m102]

@thedog556 *47

[@jlindsay]

MTV | Politics | Pied Piper | Battle for hearts & minds kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2iUeqmIop6In9k ?342

[@Mark-xw5yt]

I wanted destiny to ask him if he knew what a proportion is

[@phychomaniac26]

That part pissed me off so much. I had to rewind multiple times to make sure I understood the stupidity

[@kevinerb6268]

"he's gonna win by a landslide" That didn't age well

[@g07denslicer]

Yeah, Biden underperformed pretty bad, despite him winning. Can you, or anyone really, timestamp that moment in the debate?

[@GodToaster]

@@g07denslicer near the start

[@marcusbravo1573]

@@g07denslicer Biden win by over 8 million popular votes! It was a landslide win by any metric.

[@harryfeldman6306]

If you asked him he’d say “he did win in a landslide!” Lol no getting through to these people. Hopefully someone in the audience had some opinion slightly shifted.

[@thetotalitarianturtle3755]

@@g07denslicer Around 14:00

[@iandi4558]

Hey Jesse, how did that landslide workout for #45?

[@vp__786]

Great job Destiny. I am a fan now .