The Korean War - Part 1 - The Forgotten War

[@ThingsICareAbout]

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[@mainaccount4585]

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[@NeostormXLMAX]

I will debunk you, south korea only liberalized after the ussr collapsed, likewise the north will open up after the usa collapses

[@NeostormXLMAX]

If the ussr never collapsed and the usa did instead i will bet that the situation right now would be reversed

[@hureian6212]

Hi, I'm a South Korean, and I'm very interested in both Korean and world history. It is such a shame that the modern history of Korea has been misunderstood by many, so I appreciate the effort in showing a side of the Korean War that many do not know well. However, this video has several major errors that I simply can not ignore and wish to address. For a more simple read, I'll have to oversimplify - but if anyone wants to, I can go into more depth. 1. Kim Il Sung's role in the Korean independence movement is mild at best and wasn't vital either. Kim was born in 1912 and started to play an active role in the guerrilla campaign in Manchuria after the Japanese invasion in 1931. But his only notable feat was the Battle of Pochonbo (보천보 전투). While it was a minor battle, it played a major role in Kim's rise as supreme leader of North Korea. This battle has been greatly exaggerated by Soviet & North Korean propaganda, but it is clear that the battle had, in fact, taken place and was led by Kim. But when talking about the independence movement of Korea- Kim played only a minor role. Much of his 'achievements' stated in his autobiography and in North Korean propaganda have been proven to be false. (ex. the Korean People's Revolutionary Army, Down-with Imperialism Union) I should also mention that there were more prominent factions in the Korean independence movement that this video doesn't mention that I believe should be mentioned. Those factions are: 1) The Provisional Government of the Republic of Korea (대한민국 임시정부/KPG) & the Korean Liberation Army (한국광복군/KLA) - led by Kim Gu (김구), Kim Gyu-sik (김규식) and others. The KPG was formed in 1919 after the March First Movement and is the most well-known and recognized organization of the Korean independence movement. It was supported by the nationalist government of China and cooperated with the OSS (Office of Strategic Services). The KPG attempted to gain international recognition, but in the end, never was recognized. Sygnman Rhee (이승만) was also part of the provisional government and worked in the US to gain recognition of the provisional government. The constitution of South Korea states that the Republic of Korea upholds the cause of the provisional government. 2) The Committee for the Preparation for Korean Independence (조선건국준비위원회/CPKI), which formed the People's Committees (인민위원회) - formed and led by Lyuh Woon-hyung (여운형). It was mostly dominated by left-wing political figures, but some nationalist and conservative figures cooperated with the People's Committees, but many did not due to its left-wing character. The CPKI then formed the People's Republic of Korea. It should also be noted that Cho Man-sik (조만식) did play a major role in the northern People's Committees but did not lead nationally. 3) The Korean Independence Alliance (조선독립동맹) & the Korean Volunteer Army (조선의용군) - led by Kim Tu-bong (김두봉) and others. It was organized by left-wing independence leaders and was supported by the Chinese Communist Party. The Korean Volunteer Army constituted the largest military out of all the factions. After WW2, they attempted to enter Northern Korea but were stopped by the Soviet Union. They are less well-known than the others because they cooperated with the North Korean government and were later purged by Kim Il Sung. These figures formed the Yan'an faction in North Korea. 4) The Communist Party of Korea & other communist groups - led by multiple figures but mainly Pak Hon-yong. They formed multiple secret societies and led the resistance movement at home between the 1930s and 1940s. Many were supporters of Marxism-Leninism, but other moderate and nationalists factions existed. They later formed the Workers' Party of South Korea and led guerrilla movements against the US & South Korean governments. In the North, figures like Pak hong-yong (박헌영) formed the domestic faction. They were mostly purged during and after the Korean War. 5) The Northeast Anti-Japanese United Army (동북한일연군) - The organization that Kim Il Sung was a part of and had disorganized leadership. It was created by the Chinese Communist Party as a multi-ethnic military force and had many Koreans in ranks. They fought in Manchuria against the Japanese on a small scale, and some later fled to the Soviet Union. Kim joined the 88th Separate Rifle Brigade of the Red Army, which helped him gain support from the Soviet Union. Figures like Choe Yong Gun (최용건) & Kim Chaek (김책) were part of the army and supported Kim Il Sung. They formed the Manchurian faction. Besides the Yan'an, domestic & Manchurian faction, there also existed a Soviet faction consisting of Soviet Koreans. While Soviet Koreans played an important role in the early Korean independence movement, they lost relevance after Stalin's rise to power and the deportation of about 172 thousand Koreans to Central Asia. Many more organizations existed before and during WW2, and many people fought for Korean Independence. While it is true that Kim played a role, he shouldn't outshine major figures in Korean history. Nor do I think he should be glorified, considering he is responsible for the deaths of millions of innocent Koreans and is very much responsible for almost eight decades of war. 2. The USAMGIK was not led by Douglas MacArthur. It was led by John R. Hodge. 3. The USAMGIK didn't always support Sygnman Rhee. In fact, the US supported Lyuh Woon-hyung and Kim Gyu-sik in the Left-Right Coalition Movement (좌우합작운동). The USAMGIK preferred Kim Gyu-sik to become the future leader of Korea but needed Lyuh's political support due to his massive popularity and friendship with Kim Gyu-sik. The USAMGIK was genuinely interested in cooperating with center-left and center-right figures and distanced itself from those in the far-right and far-left. When talking about the period before the Korean War, it is crucial that you talk about the Left-Right Coalition Movement. The movement formed the Left-Right Coalition Committee (좌우합작위원회), which promised land reforms, punishment of pro-Japanese officials & democratic elections. It tragically ended with the assassination of Lyuh Woon-hyung by the far-right. As a side note, while Lyuh has many connections with communist figures and organizations, Lyuh is considered center-left and a social democrat. This is due to him being also close with nationalist and conservatives too, and being willing to compromise on political issues. 4. Sygnman Rhee got more than 90% of votes in the 1948 presidential election because he was elected by the legislature, not by a popular vote. He also stood as the only candidate in the election. The reason why other candidates got votes was because they were protest votes; some lawmakers wrote the names of other politicians as a protest. The other candidates that were named both opposed a separate government in the South, so they didn't stand for the election. 5. While it is true that in some cases, the South Korean military clashed with the North Korean forces- Kim Il Sung had planned an invasion of the South as soon as the Korean People's Army was formed. He asked Stalin multiple times (and was rejected) to allow an invasion of the South. It was only when the conditions were right, Did Stalin agree. The blame for the war lies on the shoulders of Kim Il Sung. 6. The Korean People's Army was also responsible for multiple massacres, killing more than 120 thousand civilians, according to reports by the South Korean government in 1952 and 1955. Other sources estimate around 30 thousand to 50 thousand civilians. This in no shape or form justifies the actions of the South Korean and the United States government, but the actions of the North should also be recognized and condemned.

[@PronM-px8be]

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[@valentinbezdan570]

Thanks for the informative response. Unfortunately nowadays many Westerners love to latch on to the "America bad" worldview, where they try to interpret anything and everything as being the fault of the USA and glorifying its enemies, all the while ignoring facts that contradict this point of view.

[@antonyasang6551]

Thank you for sharing

[@joemama69442]

@@PronM-px8be yeah. bro thats a fcking 500words essay😂

[@E11Username]

The text gave me weird illusion

[@E.Cheese]

Oversimplified has been real quiet since this dropped

[@Darkgeran7]

He’s just preparing for his 3rd second Punic war video just be patient

[@eniascika3050]

No he’s not he’s making a part 3 to the second Punic wars it’s not done he’s gonna make the 3rd agter

[@Labyrinth6000]

Taking so long though…

[@Darkgeran7]

@@Labyrinth6000 he might just want to make it good or he might have some personal stuff to do

[@kraevorn7483]

@@eniascika3050 the third what

[@thekingminn]

wait, so oversimplified simplified history? I would have never guessed.

[@petersteelegirl]

yeah he’s as good as oversimplified and posts even more often than him

[@jordanmince7613]

​@@petersteelegirlno no he isn't

[@thehansgutenburgshow3149]

It's literally in the name This guy loves to knit pick

[@braxtonsmith3726]

@@petersteelegirlOversimples has better animation, more thorough research and doesn’t have bias or misinformation. And funnier

[@Andoroid]

​@@petersteelegirl Not nearly

[@kalkuttadrop6371]

Japanese war criminals were convicted, most notably Tojo. The main issue was that members of the royal family (Like Prince Asaka, who lead the Nanking Massacre) were immune, as were people of scientific interest scooped up for research(like Shiro Isshi and the rest of Unit 731). Civilian Government Officials and Low Ranking Officers WERE convicted in quite large numbers. PM Tojo was arguably the highest profile one

[@remoosecode7558]

What's with the blatant disinformation regarding Japan not being punished at all for war crimes?

[@ThingsICareAbout]

Tbh,that's my key regret from the video. When I wrote that line, I meant for the comparison to be about how the power structure of Japan remained in place,and how the same happened in Korea,which is very relevant later. Bit I expressed the idea very badly,and what I ended up saying is indeed inaccurate.my apologies! I hope that you can still see the point I was making

[@austin8775]

@@ThingsICareAbouti MeAnT soMeThiNg dIffEreNt. Well you could’ve updated the video. Admit you just got caught not knowing your stuff

[@Obri55]

​@@austin8775 Because we all know you never made a mistake before. Fuck off dude

[@balaytonah9629]

@@Obri55 "Made a mistake" The whole process of leaving that out goes hand in hand with his bias of the video. He made a point that no trail was made but if you just google it the results would show up. Stop ass licking.

[@Kurruchi]

​@austin8775 lmao it's fair to be critical but the Tokyo trials are very widely known, if the creator of the video knows this much about the Korean War it's absurd for him to not know that much. It's much more likely he's being genuine with his reply even if it was a clear error.

[@RingManofChaos]

Dude literally ignores that the Tokyo Trials were a thing

[@kevinchang7497]

The Hitler of Japan, the God of Japan at that time, was saved and kept his title and peacefully died in 1989. Do still think Japan was punished? Thats why theyre still unapologetic towards Korea and China. WESTERNERS JAP FETISH IS UNRREAL

[@Noxal99]

Yep. Also, lots of things in this video are really bias and I wouldn't suggest this youtube channel to anyone who wants to learn history. A lot of things are simply false and/or bias. This isn't oversimplified quality by a mile.

[@anasarda8775]

@@Noxal99unfortunately this guy lets his world views influence history… in all his videos I have noticed

[@newbie1958]

Except the Tokyo Trials are considered a farce and no one except hanging Tojo never got justice, it also doesn’t help that Japan to this day minimizes or denies it ever did anything wrong to its neighbors, in fact their textbooks have a history of revising Japan’s role in World War II as the victim and not the aggressor. In fact in the 90s the mayor of Nagasaki was stabbed by a Japanese nationalist because he suggested Japan should take responsibility for its role in the war, it also doesn’t help that many Japanese who leave Japan are usually unaware or know nothing about the atrocities committed by their soldiers.

[@JamesDelanoMcCarthysecondacc]

Bro he can't even put tokyo trail it doesn't relate to Korean war causes

[@jackiecooper9439]

Wait the Tokyo trials did happen. Nowhere near the Nuremberg but it was something

[@MrCuttysark1982]

Trials that included executions. Also Japan faced heavy restrictions on it's aviation industry and national security industry. I disagree with TICA's assessment of Japan. They faced repercussions they're still dealing with today. I think he's over overcorrecting on the US narrative.

[@ghanesghanez7300]

yeah, in all 28 Imperial Japanese key figures, 7 of them got death sentences, and the rest got life sentence (even tho many of them got pardoned after 5-10 years) and the irony, one of the pardoned key figure (Akiro Naya) after became Minister of Justice. so basically Japan got slap in the wrists

[@ikGREENY]

Abraham didn’t invade the south though southern troops grouped together and took over Union bases in the south. And Abe sent troops there to get them back. Then they met in the middle. Civil War. Abe didn’t invade the south that makes no sense

[@r7ahtesham885]

Abe's soldier set foot on the South First technically. Even if the South invaded the North first by taking over Federal Forts.. The North did invade the south. But it didn't really technically invade the south due to previously mentioned Federal Forts

[@doronaznible7298]

What’s with this narrative of Japan facing no repercussions for WW2 at all? I can look it up, and around 900 people were executed, in comparison to only 24 being executed at Nuremberg and most of the long prison sentences being reduced to a few years. Please don’t spread false information.

[@Darkgeran7]

I understand what you’re getting at but he’s not trying to spread false information please don’t be harsh on him he’s going by the best resources he can find to bring a good MAJORITY of info not that it’s all correct but at least understand that he’s trying to give us as much reliable info as possible I’m not trying to start anything please hear me out

[@FederalistDegtyarev]

More or less they just want to diss on the US

[@nananou1687]

Both faced little repercussions actually

[@Muelofthefens]

Go back over his stuff… He regularly softens or totally omits the atrocities of communist nations.

[@shortyrags]

@@FederalistDegtyarev His slant does seem overwhelmingly anti-US. I would take it all with a grain of salt. Not because it's false information, but because he's intentionally presenting in direct opposition to the prevailing history.

[@satanicturtle9929]

10:01 saying that they faced no war crime percussions is outright false, they had international tribunals like the Tokyo trials much like the Nuremberg trials of Germany (love the vid tho)

[@emilianoescudero322]

Although it is true that the Allied Powers tried to imitate what happened at Nuremberg in Tokyo, even the Judges themselves complained about how tied their hands they were. The United States had already taken a Posture in the Pacific that was in line with the Objective of the Tokyo Tribunal

[@herrforesight-Satanisking]

@@emilianoescudero322ok but it still happened and people were still executed, the statement is still blatantly wrong

[@emilianoescudero322]

@@herrforesight-Satanisking Obviously there were trials, there were executions, there was demilitarization, democratization. But to a certain extent, it was an incomplete work to a certain extent premeditated by the needs of the future

[@FlorencIII]

@@emilianoescudero322 To be fair, I don't know what more could've been done. Beside the US' stupid decision to grant immunity to Shiro Ishii, Japanese citizens still suffered under the firebombings and the two nukes prior to the trials. Plenty of officials executed, and I think there were more officials executed on the Tokyo Trials than Nuremberg, and Japan was also occupied for 8 years, pretty sure they also had a restricted aviation force from what I've read. Although it wasn't enough to convince Japan to acknowledge their war crimes, I still feel like the US probably saw it as enough in their eyes, and I can understand that.

[@hiddentruth1982]

This video leave so much out that it isn't really honest.

[@svenrio8521]

Bruh. No way there's so much misinformation in this vid.

[@Obri55]

Point out the misinformation

[@Anti-Atf]

@@Obri55honestly no need, other people have already made videos on this and just read through the comments

[@garrett020614]

@@Obri55 watch vlogging through history's reaction

[@AnimalsShortLives]

Japan wasnt punished for their war crimes, toyko trials happened, more Japanese people were executed then Germans in their Nuremberg trials ​@@Obri55

[@kongthemayor5481]

​@@Obri55 Like Japan got just a "slap on the wrist" as shown in this video, while totally ignoring stuff like the Tokyo trials and the disbandment of Japan's entire armed forces

[@--MRCLASSIC--]

THE MODERN DAY... THE SUN IS SHINING..THE BIRDS ARE SINGING... AND HERE I AM INSIDE MY HOUSE ABOUT TO WATCH ANOTHER THINGSICAREABOUT VIDEO...

[@stevemc01]

what a wonderful day to be alive! "Hey, a pandemic started again." "..." "...aaaaaaand now we have a Third World War or something." "What an awful day to be alive!"

[@JustAnotherAccount8]

If you want to push back against western propagandised history, the last thing you should do is just tell NK propagandised history. Judging by your videos you have a communist bias, which isn’t necessarily bad, but it’s really disingenuous to omit key details just to satisfy your bias.

[@LoganSpencerAutoGroup]

reality has a communist bias

[@LancerIHR]

Yeah this guy peaked in the Argentina video and it was all downhill ever since

[@Mboy245]

Yeah he is very pro-communist, anti-israel and anti-america and spreading malicious misinformation. I am definitely unsubscribing

[@kittynya3649]

@@Mboy245well tbf, America isn’t great neither is Israel

[@AverytheCubanAmerican]

Something worth mentioning is that what the US did to Japan with forcing them to open, they also tried doing the same with Korea when it was the kingdom of Great Joseon. Specifically on the Taedong River at Pyongyang. It's called the General Sherman incident of 1866. During the period of Great Joseon control, which was then known in the West as the "Hermit Kingdom" (like how Westerners call North Korea the Hermit Kingdom today), had adopted several isolationist policies in response to Chinese and Japanese invasions. These policies remained in place during the 19th century. Determined to force the Korean government to end its isolationism, the SS General Sherman, an armed merchant schooner owned by Boston businessman W. B. Preston, made plans to travel to Korea. The crew of the General Sherman consisted of Captain Page and Chief Mate Wilson (both Americans), English supercargo George Hogarth and thirteen Asian crew-members, which included Chinese sailor and interpreter Chao Ling Feng, two pilots from Shandong and ten sailors from Beijing, Malaya and South China (said to be former soldiers in service of Henry Andres Burgevine). The General Sherman entered the Taedong with goods (stocks of cotton textiles, tinware, mirrors and glassware) purchased from Tientsin (Tianjin) in 1866. They stopped at Keupsa Gate where the crew met Koreans. The Koreans refused all trade offers, but told the crew to wait at the gate while higher government officials were contacted. The captain didn't listen, and continued heading upriver towards Pyongyang. The ship proceeded to attack anyone who tried to stop it. This was when it was decided to attack the ship. It was finally destroyed after being fought over for several days. So Koreans in Pyongyang have hated the US far longer than the Cold War, it's just the division of Korea sparked that hate again. The US-Korea Treaty between Joseon and the US, Korea's first treaty with a western nation, was signed in 1882.

[@oferburstein3538]

Hey Avery how are you doing?

[@brunorosi]

Complains that others oversimplify history. Proceeds to blame Comodore Matthew Perry for the Korean War.

[@8-bitstream379]

Ok he didn't start it but he basically pushed the first domino.

[@urusledge]

@@8-bitstream379 all of history, really all of time, is a series of dominoes. By that logic you could say Charlemagne caused WW1

[@Randomdude112]

@@urusledge or you could say the first Kings of Rome started WW2

[@8-bitstream379]

@Randomdude112 yeah but he didn't say he started the korean war in the first place. But it is true to say that the first american expedition to Japan set in motion the chain of events that led to the Meiji Resotration, this is true.

[@8-bitstream379]

@urusledge Mathew Perry is responsible for kick starting the series of events that lead to the Meiji restoration in our timeline. Although the Meiji restoration was somewhat inevitable, and if not Mathew Perry another foreign power would enforce trade treaties on Japan.

[@johnkubera1048]

This was so heavy handed It feels like a DPRK propaganda piece.

[@leopardknowledge.1430]

No, not really friend because most people have only heard one perspective

[@JustAnotherAccount8]

@@leopardknowledge.1430this is the complete opposite. It’s just as biased and propagandised, just for the other side.

[@yj9032]

American propaganda is that way

[@Le_ROBOT-]

@@johnkubera1048 Yeah this is literally just North Korea good. I usually like this guy but, this has sooo many inaccuracies. There were three Koreas in the medieval period,the US punished Tojo in the Tokyo trial,numbers were fudged up,like way up. And the fluff for the north,my god. I like this channel,but this ain't it.

[@itshunni8346]

@@leopardknowledge.1430 He literally says North Korea didn't kill its enemies like the south did when tens of thousands were killed en masse for being religious, not even for real dissent.

[@Doxxieeee]

Finally, an actual accurate video! Every video I’ve seen always has a very oversimplified explanation of the Korean War, it usually consists of “north invaded the south”, “busan”, “usa”, “china”, and “stalemate”. A video addressing the war as a ‘civil war’ is very refreshing! Great video ThingsICareAbout!

[@Kuronosa]

Most Civil Wars are complicated....the American Civil War....not so much.... Yeah, most videos about the Korean War just boil it down to "North Communists vs South Capitalists," so it's good to see a video about more specifics as to the WHY over just the WHAT.

[@mainaccount4585]

Qing dynasty map is inaccurate.

[@monsta6501]

Accurate from a pro-North stance

[@braxtonsmith3726]

Besides the bias sure and some misinformation

[@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un]

As part of the Japanese influencing Korea before annexing it, Japan assassinated the defiant Korean queen Empress Myeongseong and intervened in the 1894-1895 Donghak Peasant Revolution. In the revolution, Joseon requested the Qing for assistance in stopping the revolution, which the Japanese were angry because Qing did not inform them (which was part of an agreement of the Convention of Tientsin) with and started the First Sino-Japanese War! By the time of her death in 1895, the queen had acquired basically more political power than even her husband the Gwangmu Emperor Gojong. Because of this, she made many enemies, among them were the king's father the Heungseon Daewongun, pro-Japanese ministers of the court, and the Japanese-trained Korean army regiment, the Hullyeondae. Weeks before her death, Japan replaced their emissary to Korea with a new one, Miura Gorō. Miura was a former military man who was inexperienced in diplomacy and was frustrated with dealing with such a powerful empress. Less than a month after his arrival in Korea, Empress Myeongseong ordered the disbanding of the Hullyeondae militia. Miura saw this as a first step in an attempt to remove pro-Japanese members of the government and loyalists to the Heungseon Daewongun, aligning Korea with the Russians to offset Japanese influence. Miura struck a deal with Adachi Kenzō of the newspaper Kanjō Shinpō and the Daewongun to carry out her killing in October of that year. The agents were let into the palace by pro-Japanese Korean guards. Once inside, they beat and threatened the royal family and the occupants of the palace during their search for the queen. Two women suspected of being the queen were killed. When the queen was eventually located, her killer jumped on her chest three times, then finished her off with a sword. The Japanese government arrested the assassins, but were acquitted of all charges, despite the court acknowledging that the defendants had conspired to take her down. Later, after the Japan-Korea Annexation Treaty in 1910, Miura became a privy councilor and focused on eliminating vestiges of the clan-based factionalism from politics

[@Eraphimm]

I was gonna sleep but this is nice

[@nyana6641]

Quick correction: Japan did face war crime convictions and did have a trial conducted. This was called the Tokyo trial which was very similar to to the Nuremberg trials.

[@vidyasreeram2587]

It was a barely concealed sham, though. Most Japanese war criminals faced 0 consequences. Heck, the Japanese commemorated their war criminals as heroes, unlike the Germans who came to terms with their past and faced actual justice.

[@sirlj4328]

A Class A war criminal became Prime Minister 10 years after the end of the war. You tell me how real those war crime trials were.

[@nyana6641]

@@vidyasreeram2587 bro we executed Tojo

[@EnderGrad]

The difference is that the Tokyo Trial was way too lax. A lot of the people that should have been there didn't even get indicted in the first place

[@nyana6641]

@@vidyasreeram2587 it was still a trial regardless and tried and killed several people.

[@jessemeyer86]

This video was sponsored by Kim Jong Un.

[@ratilantgull602]

Real

[@aaserabboud]

0:45 that's like the entire point of Oversimplified but ok.

[@Historyinanutshell-x7f]

"Hey you didn't overcomplicate the Korean War" "What do you expect? I'm Oversimplified"

[@shortyrags]

Abraham Lincoln quite obviously didn't start the American Civil war, because the South shot first at Sumter. What an awful analogy.

[@thehansgutenburgshow3149]

I agree

[@manatortv]

Isn't that the point he's trying to make? That the Korean war didn't start when the north invaded the south? I think the "awful analogy" went over your head

[@shortyrags]

@@manatortv Not at all. I understand the point completely. He’s asking us to consider the contexts behind why both the Korean north and the US north invaded prior to the actual beginnings of warfare. The problem is that the contexts of these two civil wars have pretty much nothing in common besides the fact that there is context to consider, which you can say about any conflict. I really don’t like people comparing the rationale of the Korean War to the American Civil War, especially given the multitude of revisionists who want to claim the American Civil War was a war of northern aggression. The north were not the aggressors in the American Civil War point blank. The Korean War can be understood in a much more nuanced context, but most historians would still probably characterize it as a conflict initiated by the north.

[@r7ahtesham885]

I think he meant that, yes the North did invade the South, but technically they did not invade the south because.. Well.. Fort Sumpter.

[@aliashfaque1746]

You missed his point. People usually use the "big attack" as starts a war vs what led to the big attack. Brains missing in this one

[@spookyboi8446]

Despite the intro this is more biased and simplified than almost any other discussion on the Korean War I have heard.

[@Levascus]

Not being brainwashed by the western media and their innacurate western biased history books is being biased? Well yes everyone is biased but not everyone is honest, and he is honest

[@bobspot6534]

I’m kind of disturbed how much of a pro North Korean these videos are. I don’t understand how someone can be so pro human rights and doing the right things yet no condemn the current North Korea State more but is more than happy to take pot shots at America and South Korea constantly. These videos feel like they were made by a North Korea propaganda board.

[@siebedegryse]

And its just factually wrong: more freedom in the North? Bullshit

[@JoseonBall]

Yeah, I mean South Korea was bad back then, but if North Korea was so great then why did my great grandparents leave along with many others?

[@mysticalrandomness4282]

@30thWaffenSS Better in terms of infrastructure sure

[@lonepainter1150]

You talk about how oversimplified the starting of the Korean War is but give no context to many of the US is actions to make them look bad For example pretending we would do nothing to Japan cause we just didn’t care and was definitely not because we where worried they would refused to surrender and we would be forced to destroy more city’s full of civilians A lot of this video just sounds really biased in many ways and more sounds like the creature of it just wants to hate on the US

[@ianeydoescrap5048]

Bro just mad cuz the video ain't about the American narrative lol

[@ThatGuyFromEgypt]

Dude's mad because the video isn't Pro USA

[@glorihol6803]

you serious? CIA bot

[@braxtonsmith3726]

Good thing I reacted to Vlogging Through History after watching this video. There’s a bit of misinformation, not bringing up NK own war crimes to match with SKs definitely shows some bias, and some wrong assumptions. VTH brings receipts about stuff

[@darkapollo3463]

Fr, gotta have people to fact check this

[@LavaWarrior101]

While I enjoy many of your videos, I do feel like you have a bit of a socialist/left-wing bias in place, though I will give credit where credit is due.

[@journaiistic1395]

wdym?

[@mr.iiconic]

​@@journaiistic1395lists a million issues with South Korea, decides North Korea's aren't worth mentioning or downplays them.

[@MidnightToker2011]

​@@mr.iiconic I noticed the same thing in his Vietnam videos. I like the content but there is a lot of bias in these videos.

[@zharyel9890]

You had the chance to do better than most history channels and present an unbiased and serious view on the Korean War from both sides and failed miserably due to your clear sympathy towards the early NK regime. If you had any integrity, you would reupload an updated version.

[@aarontheamazing1985]

How is he sympathetic

[@DebbieMckinney-d3e]

His next video he’s going to say the Japanese do not attack Pearl Harbor and it was the Americans who started the war

[@crabman6132]

I’m happy to see your channel growing and getting sponsors, you’ll hit 100k in no time

[@fornogoodreason551]

you know ive waited a long time to see a kim simp but seems there is at least one.

[@TheLordPolar]

Could you post some links on where to find all the information you got for this video I cant find news articles from London Herald or Guardian of London about South Korean troops being in North Korea I can only find papers on the North invading or declaring war in the same month. I also cant find any information suggesting the US encouraged South Koreans to murder their own people.

[@terrortubs]

American here, thanks for this video. It is a shocking contrast to the simplified version most of us are familiar with, but you do a great job at mixing a dense amount of information into incredibly entertaining formats. Hope you keep growing as a channel!

[@calvinhenderson2401]

I understand that America isn’t perfect but this video practically demonizes us while giving the North Koreans a mere slap on the wrist.

[@JimMilton-w6x]

@@calvinhenderson2401Because its what happened we have been very imperalitics inhumane when it comes to “containment” in foreign countries. Look up what we did in guatemala vietnam argentina

[@woodsmand]

@@calvinhenderson2401 Well the guys a tankie, what do you expect.

[@kevinchang7497]

This is not true. im a south Korean and im actually offended by what he put out. He must be a devoted communist that just hide NK under the rug LOL. North Korea started a war. Kim Jung iL literally had to get a permission from Stalin

[@David-sl6xf]

@@calvinhenderson2401 The guy is a communist, so it's not surprising.

[@thewittywhygaming6487]

Literally Any Country: *Tries to have it's own autonomy* The USA: "OH HELLO THERE!"

[@Yorborger]

Well you can blame Charlemagne for that one

[@bobafett_8922]

You can blame the soviets for that

[@JYB245]

Definitely Oversimplified: Pre show

[@Familyguyfunnymoments_]

"did Abraham Lincoln start the American civil war by invading the south" no, the American civil war started when the south attacked fort Sumter, so even by your own analogy North Korea started it?

[@ThatGuyFromEgypt]

He was proving his point, he wasn't saying that the civil war started that way

[@aarontheamazing1985]

This literal video says yes and why did you get mad that you're little confederate states lost?

[@vidyasreeram2587]

I'm surprised you're not as famous as oversimplified

[@michaheumann]

Getting there...

[@PHANTOM-zs6rd]

its cause he just copies oversimplified whole thing, he copies the music, same joke style, same maps, same character models, same way of introducing a sponsor, he is a complete copy. This guy is the discount 50% off wannabe oversimplified

[@americanmapping832]

A copycat doesn't become as popular as the main guy until a long while later

[@seems_goodlol]

@@PHANTOM-zs6rdReddit pfp 💀At least he produced more content than oversimplified

[@FillibunkiSvensson]

​@@americanmapping832 He's not coping He's inspired by him and att least things i care about tells the truth

[@theexplosive1062]

9:54 wait what about the Tokyo trials? There were still people who were trialed for war crimes, I suppose he’s saying this because they got a more favourable peace deal, keeping the emperor, not being split into two, or else four, and such and such

[@RickSatan]

i am vegan

[@jalabogard3624]

How do I become a channel member? I don’t see a “Join” option on the channel page.

[@ThingsICareAbout]

Hi! There should be a Join button underneath the video, next to the subscribe button

[@jalabogard3624]

@@ThingsICareAbout I was only able to see the Join button on my computer, but I am now a member!! Thank you

[@ThingsICareAbout]

@@jalabogard3624 thank you and welcome!

[@DontWalkRunProduct]

​@@ThingsICareAboutyou should also mention that the US army during the early days of the Korean war got his ass kicked by the communist. Unfortunately people don't want to accept the fact that the US has committed some crimes both in war and humanitarian, however I much rather live in South Korea today than South Korea in the 1950s I'd rather live in the north of that time.

[@touchoflight124]

As a South Korean who is robustly critical of our troubled history, it's still not comparable to how much worse North Korea was and is. And the fact that the guy copies the template of oversimplified, just makes me more annoyed by his biased shitty video

[@klemklemius5091]

Were there not war crime tribunals for Japan? Many war criminals like Hideki Tojo faced the death penalty

[@sirlj4328]

They were largely a sham and very few war criminals were punished. Nobusuke Kishi, a class A war criminal (and the grandfather of Shinzo Abe) who was responsible for the enslavement of over 1.5 Million Chinese people in Manchuria, became Prime Minister (with US backing) only a decade after the end of WW2.

[@WilsonUrizar-g1k]

Hey you ignore the Tokyo trials and the fact the NK is equally blame on right of humanity on the same things

[@virgawolf1485]

This channel really is Walmart oversimplified and it shows. He wants to be oversimplified so bad that he even takes to crying his thumbnails,art style, and music choices.

[@darkapollo3463]

Fr, this channel ahould be called overlooked for the noticable amount of info thats left out of this video.

[@SuperMegoman]

I’m about to watch more of your Oversimplified Parody style content and I gotta say. Great job my guy! I love how you’re posting what fans of OverSimplified want. Ogs who create cult classics never choose to keep themselves relevant and always have the fans continue it. This is why we need people like you and more from what other original creators make to continue on with their legacy. You rule dude, keep it up!

[@mikeor-]

While the leaders of Nazi Germany were indeed sentenced to death or life imprisonment with four exceptions (Dr. Hjalmar Schacht, Hans Fritzsche, Franz von Papen, and Gustav Krupp), the Japanese leaders were also punished. The United States did not simply give them a slap on the wrist and told them to stop genociding. They senetenhced seven of the people on trial to death, fourteen to imprisonment, and one man was acquitted. That man happened to be the Emperor, because putting him on trial would undermine the Japanese government. So the only so-called war criminal who was given a slap on the wrist was the Emperor himself.

[@AverytheCubanAmerican]

Shame you didn't talk about how the North Korean flag came to be! The thing about the North Korean flag is, even though North Korean history claims Kim Il-sung created it, that's not actually true! Between 1946 and 1948, North Korea and South Korea used very similar Taegukgi flags, though today of course just South Korea uses the Taegukgi. In 1947 the Soviets discussed whether the Taegukgi flag should be kept. Vice Chairman of the Provisional People's Committee for North Korea Kim Tu-bong was in favor of keeping the Taegukgi as well as Kim Il-sung for nationalism. However, for Soviet Major General Nikolai Georgiyevich Lebedev, the concept of Chinese philosophy, which the design of the Taegukgi is based on, appear to him as medieval superstition, so he wanted to change it to a flag that wasn't superstitious nor nationalist. Tu-bong yielded and a few months later, the design for the new flag was dictated from Moscow, although it is not known which Soviet official designed the flag. Tu-bong was later purged by Kim Il-sung in 1957. As for how the Taegukgi became a symbol of Koreans: The need for a national flag became an issue in 1876 during the Japan-Korea Treaty of 1876 when the then Great Joseon kingdom had no corresponding symbol to the Japanese flag during negotiations. The issue remained unpursued for a period but reemerged with the negotiation of the United States-Korea Treaty of 1882, with Chinese official Ma Jianzhong suggested using Lee Eung-jun's Taegeuk and Eight Trigrams flag. Park Yeong-hyo presented a scale model of the Lee Eung-jun's taegukgi to the Joseon government, and Gojong approved the design. Park Yeong-hyo became the first person to use the taegukgi in 1882, and in January 1883, Park's version of the Taegukgi became the official flag. The term Taegeuk and its overall concept is derived from the Chinese Taiji. The taegeuk diagram has been existent for the majority of written Korean history, like a sword recovered from the grave of Michu of Silla had the taegeuk on it! The four black trigrams are specific representations of the movement and harmony of these forces. In detail, the geon symbolizes the sky, the gon the earth, the gam water, and the ri fire. Together, they create harmony around the taegeuk mark.

[@mabuhay1480]

Moral in the story: In war, everyone is guilty exept for civilians ofc

[@remysadventures-official8357]

Have been waiting for this :D Btw, nice compilation of what everyone says on the Korean War! (At the beginning I mean)

[@Akatosh-r4c]

Finally someone has the balls to explain history as it happened. No more false american propaganda!

[@novidsonmychanneljustcomme5753]

So North Korean propaganda is better then?

[@Miro.A.Mursu-]

​@@novidsonmychanneljustcomme5753No, people usually forget how bad USA was in Korea, if this video would only explain bad things North korea did and ingore the bad things USA did no one woudl be complaining

[@johnconner9149]

Oversimplified, Simple History, TICA, and Armchair Historian? What’s next? Bluejay?

[@Chaos_God_of_Fate]

Glad you didn't make us wait for the part 2. Great channel! Keep going and you'll keep growing! The South Koran Government: The Government of Samsung!

[@drakemcelyea9697]

man stole the oversimplified style and then partnered with surfshark just to put the nail in the coffin

[@gabrielrodriguez821]

Btw the American Civil War official start was when the Confederates seized Ft. Sumter in South Carolina, kinda like how the official start of the Korean war was the norths invasion.

[@RexarGamingYT]

Throwing shades at OVERSIMPLIFIED for OVERSIMPLIFYING is crazy... What even more crazier is how there are so many misinformation in this video lmao

[@darkapollo3463]

Also the lack of info as well lol

[@charlesaghahowa7476]

Those that migrated to the north didn’t know they made the biggest mistake

[@arunramani1724]

Your Great my guy , keep doing what you are doing and you will blow up soon. lots of love brother !!

[@Biscuited7]

I’d make a joke about oversimplified being quite after this dropped but he’s genuinely quite

[@CcpCcp-sk6dt]

Awesome this video needs more views history should be the truth and we shouldn’t lie about it

[@chadius1]

Great video man keep up the good work!

[@Dill_Dude9211]

Honestly, this channel is better than every other history channel because, as it says in the title, the creator seems to actually care about and understand how significant every factor is. Keep it up! I am loving it! much love from canada! Edit: Now I am traumatized, Still a good video though!

[@sirya-bookie9495]

I really enjoyed this series! Thanks for your hard work to educate us

[@chinobandito7625]

My grandparents had to hide families in their farm during the whole Jeju uprising incident. It scarred them for life and they always remained silent about it because you could get punished if you spoke of the incident. For decades, it was covered up from the public in mainland SK… entire villages were massacred and many fled to Japan. My grandmother on my mother’s side was born in Japan after great grandma fled to Osaka and then came back to Jeju after the war finished.

[@ThingsICareAbout]

Wow, thank you for sharing your family's story!

[@chinobandito7625]

@@ThingsICareAbout New to your videos but love your unbiased approach on topics no one ever talks about. Just subscribed!

[@iret9604]

What I knew before watching: - The US imposed a military dictatorship in South Korea - Japan was practically pardoned because they needed as many anti-communist movements in Asia - South Korea was very underprepared - The South committed more atrocities than the North before and during the war. What I learned after watching - There were far more atrocities in the South than I knew - The Cheju and Yeosu Uprisings - The execution of those who were in "re-education camps" - North Korea made major reforms that benefitted their people (at least in its early days) - South Koreans hated the fact that the US was making the division more permanent despite the communists presence in the North - There was a governing body that was dismantled in the South by the US - There was a period in which Koreans could move across the 38th Parallel - North Koreans aided in the Chinese Civil War (which explains their knowledge of warfare during the Korean War) This video really helped me learn much more about the war. I'll definitely check out that book. Thank you very much! Will now be checking out the next video.

[@axel665]

Wasn't North Korea also a dictatorship

[@martinmorles1]

This was just fantastic!! The level of details you put into this video was awesome! That opening was just gold !! 😂😂 Knew that Ree was a brutal dictator as well , but didn't know how chaotic & unstable south was prior to the war

[@ThatCanadianGuy]

The Korean War was NOT a civil war. Korea hadn't existed since 1910 at this point. Korea was divided into two STATES after The Soviet Union and The US occupied each occupied parts of Korea. Both of these were fully independant. The reason the American civil war was a civil war was because they were fighting FOR independance. No one actually recognized the confederacy as a state but as a belligerent power.

[@omg_julius5294]

Yes finaly I have been waiting so long…..3 months for this gosh this is gonna be good

[@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un]

More on Kim Il-sung and his guerrilla history: Kim's family participated in anti-Japanese activities and fled to Manchuria in 1920. While in China, he attended Whasung Military Academy in 1926, but found the academy's training methods outdated and quit in 1927. He then attended Yuwen Middle School in Jilin province until 1930, when he rejected feudal traditions and became interested in communism. The then seventeen-year-old Kim became the youngest member of the Korean Communist Youth Association, an underground Marxist organization with fewer than twenty members. The police discovered the group three weeks after it formed in 1929, and jailed Kim for several months. His formal education ended after his arrest and imprisonment. In 1932, he joined the CCP. In 1935, Kim became a member of the Northeast Anti-Japanese United Army, a guerrilla group led by the CCP. Kim met the man who would become his mentor, Wei Zhengmin, Kim's immediate superior officer, who served at the time as chairman of the Political Committee of the Northeast Anti-Japanese United Army. Wei reported directly to Kang Sheng, a high-ranking party member close to Mao Zedong in Yan'an, until Wei's death in March 1941. Kim's actions during the Minsaengdan incident (a series of purges by the CCP against Koreans) helped solidify his leadership. Kim was arrested in late 1933 and exonerated in early 1934. His memoirs, and those of the guerrillas who fought alongside him, cite Kim's seizing and burning the suspect files of the Purge Committee as key to solidifying his leadership. After the destruction of the suspect files and the rehabilitation of suspects, those who had fled the purge rallied around him. Thus in 1935, he took the name "Kim become the sun". In June 1937, he led 200 guerrillas in a raid on Pochonbo, destroying the local government offices and setting fire to a Japanese police station and post office. The success of the raid demonstrated his talents as a military leader. Even more significant than the military success itself was the political coordination and organization between the guerrillas and the Korean Fatherland Restoration Association, an anti-Japanese united front group based in Manchuria. For their part, the Japanese regarded Kim as one of the most effective and popular Korean guerrilla leaders ever. He appeared on Japanese wanted lists as the "Tiger". The Japanese "Maeda Unit" was even sent to hunt him in February 1940, and the Japanese kidnapped a wife who they believed to be Kim Il-sung's first wife and used her as a hostage to get him before killing her. This made Kim and his troops cross to the Soviet Union, and while there, Kim Jong-il was born in 1941 (though the DPRK officially claims he was born around Mount Paektu). To commemorate the Korean resistance during the Japanese period by Kim Il-sung and celebrate his 70th birthday in 1982, the DPRK government created the Arch of Triumph in Pyongyang! The Arch of Triumph in Pyongyang was based off the Arc de Triomphe and is slightly taller than the Arc de Triomphe at 60 m. Each of its 25,500 blocks of finely-dressed granite represents a day of his life up to that point!

[@the_dirty_yetiofficial9117]

ah yee, the longest comment i seen from our glorious leader

[@firestriker3580]

It isn't an oversimplification, the north did start the Korean war

[@joshdavis3743]

I am sorry, but we all due respect your Civil War comparison is not accurate at all. The South attacked a fort that was part of the Federal government, federal land and part of the "north". Then Lincoln called for volunteers to put down that rebellion. Attacking that fort is a de facto declaration of war.

[@bazookacantgame]

Imagine saying the US strike first because Pearl Harbor wasn’t an invasion

[@tomascadieux3410]

The more realistic oversimplefied, and i love it

[@Julianist]

I am hyped everytime a new video drops!

[@teodoralexandrescu893]

well tehnicly oversimplified is oversimplifying this war

[@babbagecabbage9249]

This is an amazing video. I did not know enough about this war. Please cite your sources in the description so we can do further research!

[@thesmithersy]

4:00 to skip the ad You're welcome

[@isupremesepehr5861]

Congrats for the sponsor deal🎉

[@Darkgeran7]

Yes at last but HOLY S was the grenade part violent

[@sebastiankeller6646]

I feel like for talking bad about oversimplified u seem to like his art style… 2:42

[@CallmeLJ700]

I understand your point in that the US is consistently potrayed as the "good guy" but this is just not the way to go about it

[@aarontheamazing1985]

You make it better than

[@aarontheamazing1985]

Oh wait you cant do anything better helluva boss watcher (i can smell the stank from here)

[@CallmeLJ700]

@aarontheamazing1985 oh if that isn't desperate then I don't know what is

[@CallmeLJ700]

@@aarontheamazing1985 ok redditor

[@isaiahgehrz9213]

As someone who just made a documentary on Commodore Perry, the whole part is historically accurate

[@ibon6467]

This guy is good! puts sources and references + credits used referenced videos. Keep up the good work! Let them know the truth which most people often over-simplify.

[@lego_droid1396]

It might have been bad then but look which korea is starving now 💀

[@plasmarl8742]

Even though Oversimplified is better, you actually make it fun to see and is way faster in uploading a video than Oversimplified. Plus it is funny.

[@2memeornot224]

Yeah baby new episode! It's hard to be original with over 100+channels doing the same video, thanks for trying something new

[@urgaynknowit]

My new favorite channel for history lessons with a laugh , thanks bud, keep up the FANTASTIC work A++

[@jonashyllested2680]

Proper history lesson, I have been studying history for 15.000+ hours, and yet some of these subjects have gone unnoticed on my radar regarding the Korean War. You are doing the world a favor, well done!

[@BasedAidencertified]

the true heir to the oversimplified throne

[@RickSatan]

i am vegan

[@karthikk2683]

Well good for you ​@@RickSatan

[@Jim.Miller1861]

Good that you give important background.

[@carlosvillamayor5660]

I loved this video a lot. I'm a graduated student, from Navarra (Spain), in "Historia y Patrimonio". Your video is really good and objective. Don't listen to those comments acussing you of being a North Korea apologist. This people don't care about understanding history, they're only intereseted in their view of the korean conflict. You use important sources from historians and your intention was to refute the american/south korean version of this conflict. I'm so proud of you. Good luck for you.

[@SherlockNg-h8w]

a beginning of a end for a era

[@johnsoldier8722]

This is the best video for people who want to learn about the Korean War. Could you do a video about the tyrolean rebellion of 1809

[@chinobandito7625]

Man… Korea just trying to live peacefully in their little tiny peninsula, never tried to conquer neighbors. Yet always get invaded

[@noahhan5062]

Could you supply any sources found about the things discussed in the "Elections in the South" section? It is very interesting and want to read more about it.

[@ThingsICareAbout]

Hi! If you specify which claims you'd like to know more about, I can check later

[@CoolKidzzHavi]

Thus the name oversimplified

[@JoelSmith-fm7oh]

I feel like your a little biased in your analysis, you spent much more time focusing on atrocities committed by the Americans and south Korean’s than the north Korean’s, despite atrocities being committed by both sides.

[@monsta6501]

Wow, you really just went into deep and thorough detail on the faults of the South during this time period but then glossed over the faults of the North with, “Yea bad things were said about the North but there is little to no evidence of those things actually happening.” No no, if your going to cover a historical event on the basis of a nonbiased approach, then its equal detail and equal scrutiny for both sides. Such a shame because this a greatly overlooked time in history that couldve been well explained.

[@aarontheamazing1985]

Hes not glazing

[@monsta6501]

@@aarontheamazing1985 yea sure

[@wutdakat]

as a korean myself, this is 100% approved.