The Kubota Tractor We Never Recommend

The Kubota Tractor We (Almost) Never Recommend. But that might be changing. There is a stripped-down version of the Kubota BX1880 that might be the perfect fit for some as the lawn tractor market disappears.
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[@henrymorgan3982]

The difference between value and price is never explained at a dealership except here at Messick's. Thanks Neal!

[@blessed7fold]

Neil has never done a video quite like this before. He's definitely taking things up a notch which is good to see but it's our job as the consumer to do this comparative analysis.

[@waynegalvin4639]

I bought an 1880 new from the dealer and it came with the loader and valve from the factory and it has been amazing and more than just helpful doing projects around our place.

[@thebradleysoncatbirdhill6849]

Very in depth analysis, Neill. Always appreciate the transparency!👍

[@trentstractor]

I really like my BX1880. I have a farm, so I have larger tractors with loaders and a skid steer. I use the 1880 around the house for mowing and yard work. I have a QH05 quick hitch, a 4' box blade, a RTR1242 tiller, and a rear dumping scoop/carrier that I built. I wanted the 54" deck, because I have some places a 60" won't go between. It's very quiet and smooth mowing. I like how the engine is turned around "backwards" from a conventional tractor. This keeps the heat off the operator, blowing it all out the front. It's impressive how well it handles the box blade. I didn't get a loader valve. I bought it in the fall of 2019. There were some specials that fall, and I got the tractor and deck for $8400.00. I should have bought ten at that price and sold them later.

[@MUUKOW3]

Real fun when changing the alternator belt!

[@KD-bb3qm]

I always love these videos and wish my Kubota dealer was as great as these guys. I couldn't get a new BX2680 last year so I might start the hunt again here in Australia to see if there is any way I can order one since last year they would not even let me put a deposit down and had no idea when they would come through again.

[@derekscott1650]

I love my BX1880, with the loader and weight box off it is light enough on its feet and makes a nice cut, and is far more nimble than the JD 317 it replaced. I mow about 1/2 acre. SSQA loader and 3 pt have been major back savers over the past year. Worth every penny.

[@gilbertcammarn874]

I have a box 1880. Got it in early 2020. I'm a huge fan. Mower deck loader and tiller.

[@michaelfinney2160]

Yes, the BX is the better buy ! I went with the BX1870 a few years ago and it serves my purpose very well. No loader and no loader valve. It’s just really a super garden tractor that I mainly mow with but can do way more when needed. Have a Blessed Day

[@michaelwood7253]

I have a BX1870 with a front loader and a loader valve along with 54" mower deck and a 4' land pride rear blade

[@williambryce8527]

Great video! I purchased a BX without the loader and valve with a Kubota rear PTO mower for my wife to run! Perfect combination.

[@bradw3313]

Good info….while I’m not in need of a BX since I use a zero turn for the yard (around 2 acres) and will use it til it falls apart, but this would’ve been a good alternative. Simple things such as smooth ride means a lot. The zero turn rides like a brick but it’s paid for. These videos sure helped me identify the wants vs needs when I got my MX5200 and saved me boat loads of money. After your reviews and demos of the L vs MX I realized 4x4 and HST were not needed in my case.

[@MikeThomasNYME]

Love my bx1880/48". It does have the loader. I use it on my .37 acre lot with a little over half that being grass. No regrets!

[@jamesgaul1022]

Great presentation and comparison Neal.

[@treed5679]

Had a bx 1800 and it was the toughest best running little tractor, I would for sure buy another for a small farm.

[@DJC995]

Nice One Neil Good comparison Thanks again

[@Tom-ej8bb]

I knew it made sense for my place and glad I got the 1880 with the loader. Also bought it with a 3rd function just in case. Since I’ve completed what she thinks is all of my loader jobs she wants me to sell and get a little rider. Sorry it’s here to stay!!!👍

[@eldonrexrode667]

I bought a bx 2360 without the loader valve for my wife to mow with. This was a great decision , steering is super easy and it's comfortable to operate. A zero turn was out of the question as our yards are to steep. I put 1 1/2 inch wheel spacers on the back and filled the back tires and added a front weight bracket. Only other thing I have done was make a bracket to move the seat forwards 3 inches so the wife could reach the foot controls, it still goes back far enough for me to use it.

[@larryhumphries3341]

Unfortunately you’re just a few miles away from me in East Texas for me to buy from, but you definitely gave some great info. Thanks.

[@andydsimmons]

Great info and it makes a lot of sense

[@henryparrott2447]

Thank you down to earth advice with PRICE. Thanks may God richly bless

[@snickypicky5273]

I’ve got an 1880 with the front loader (la344 w/ ssqa) and the 54” deck and I love it. For almost everything I do it can handle it. My next jump will probably be into a b01 probably rather than a higher spec BX.

[@wildbill23c]

I have the BX2680...does everything I need to do as well....I only have an acre so I don't need/want anything any larger, just needed the loader and 3 point functions for chores.....but yep the B series would be a nice upgrade from the BX for sure. I went with the BX2680 for the additional PTO HP rating and happy with the decision, it runs my Land Pride 50" RTR0550 roto-tiller extremely well, and the 60" mid mount mower extremely well also.

[@jimmizner6901]

im jumping the the LX, its only $1200 more than a B2610

[@wildbill23c]

@@jimmizner6901 I don't think the LX is physically much larger than a B Series is it?

[@edwhite8166]

I love my BX25D it is perfect for my 2.5 acres. I have a lot options, third function, grapple. I gets in and out of small spaces. I wish they had an additional set of rear remotes for a hydraulic thumb on the backhoe.

[@wildbill23c]

They do have a rear remote option. Adding it after the fact though is extremely expensive...wish I wouldn't have let me salesman talk me out of having the 3rd function and rear remotes added to my BX when I ordered it, kind of marked off a few attachments I could have purchased but not having the 3rd function just limited my tractor usage, and adding those functions now is about triple the cost as they would have been when I ordered the tractor.

[@yrualeg1]

I should’ve added a 3rd Function to my 6060 when I bought it. I added at my 50 hour service it was absolutely worth it. Using the grapple is a HUGE timesaver.

[@dehavenfamilyfarm]

It's funny you mention the lack of garden tractors on the market. I got my Toro 520H out today, and was thinking the same thing- if I wanted to replace it, what is on the market today? Good video Neil.

[@refixed]

I was shopping for a zero turn for my property this past summer after having three of them in the past, but ended up getting a used bx1870 with mower deck and 3-pt hitch instead. It's awesome, far more comfortable over rough terrain than my previous zero turns, quieter, power steering is like butter, and I can move the boat trailers around easily with the 3 point hitch to mow under them. It's not as fast to mow my property as my last Simplicity zero turn was, but it's close! As Neil eludes to, I do wish I could have found one with a loader though for a reasonable price for those tasks where my svl75 or u55 just destroy the lawn (ie any task).

[@kenchester3072]

I have the same machine with the loader. I added a rear snowblower as I live in northern NH. The only thing I wish I could add is an engine block heater for winter. I had a lower radiator hose heater put on I bought on Amazon, but it lasted one use as the reviews warned of so I knew the risk. I do love Kubota's I had a L2800 when we owned a larger farm property years back.

[@refixed]

@@kenchester3072 I'm pretty sure Kubota makes a block heater for it -- I know mine has one, although I store it in the winter so I've never used it. I did install a kubota block heater on my skid steer that works great and was a pretty easy install.

[@kenchester3072]

@@refixed Thank you I'll look into it and see what they say.

[@BrickyardPowerMan]

Excellent video!

[@TheTreegodfather]

I'm still running my BX-2230 that I bought in 2004. It's tricked out with a cab and SSQA now and it's the main mule for the smaller tasks around the farm. For most things I actually prefer it over the L-3830, and only use the bigger machine when I have to.

[@stuartkorte1642]

Just brought the BX1880 with 54” deck and quick change loader. Why I brought the 1880. 1. Cost 2. will use 90% of time for mowing 2 acres, replacing 48” Craftsman 3. have occasional need for loader/forklift so don’t want to always ask friend. Clearing an acre so will assist with moving downed trees and grading afterward. 3. KZbin video on a owner of 1880 and is observations. 4. May want a small garden one day. When I build a home, I layout landscaping to fit what I will be mowing with so my new landscape will have curves and widths that match the tractor.

[@person86422]

Niel, send me a bx1880 for review and I'd be happy to show everyone how capable and effective it is.

[@chuckquinn8026]

This is exactly why when I looked to replace my 2004 GX325, I was shocked to see the price at Deere…even the salesman wanted me in a subcompact…fast forward and I bought the BX1880 with FEL, SSQA bucket with cutting edge, 54” deck, mulching kit, 60” snow blade with poly edge…I think I paid $15k out the door

[@barrybisson2847]

Hi Neal love your videos you explain things to T so everyone can understand I have a Kubota 2380 fantastic machine does everything I needed it to do and more as all I can say is Goooo team Orange keep up the good work

[@MessicksEquip]

Thanks 👍

[@JohnWilson-ql8ks]

great video as always, wish I still lived in York Pa. but i am planted in San Antonio TX. for the care I get at the military bases here. And I also have a sub-compact tractor A Cub Cadet SC2400, and as its not made any more you have been able to help me with parts. Thank you for your help and super parts dept.

[@tylerd4522]

I have one of those as well, it's been a great machine! It's mowed a lot of grass, blown a lot of snow, and moved countless things with the loader!

[@wildbill23c]

The Cub Cadet SC2400 is a Yanmar tractor painted yellow. So if you lookup Yanmar you should easily find parts for them I would think.

[@MRBoatwrights]

I always love "heft in the rearend".

[@thebotalife]

most of the time also much older men are buy-in this tractor so it will work just fine for their use which is typically a decent sized yard with a gravel/dirt path driveway so they can add a quick hitch and a little 48" box blade and be happy as can be.

[@comlbbeau]

I have over 20 years of excellent service out of my diesel TG1860 machine. I put about 60-70 hours a year on it, mostly mowing (54" deck), but it also does a great job of pulling an aerator and spreader for grass seed and fertilizer. When I want to get serious I hop on the MX4700. Kubota has been good to me over the years.

[@MessicksEquip]

TG Diesel was a great tractor (less so the Kawasaki gas)

[@Snowman380]

I bought a used 1860 6 years ago to do my landscaping. I run a box blade, tiller, mower, blower, brush hog, blade and landscape rake on it. I have done enough odd jobs on the side to pay the unit off completely. This thing has done everything Ive wanted and sips fuel. I may have to travel slower on some jobs due to the hp but I still get the job done. Great unit for the price in my mind.

[@jimg8218]

Great info

[@BigDsHomestead]

Nice tractor, Neil. Only thing wrong with it is its missing much needed Paul Short mods that would make a great machine even easier to use. I bought mine nnearly a year ago and immediately ordered my "Short" mods. He is truly the "MODFATHER", as far as I am concerned. I really love to watch your informative videos. Especially the ones with bx model.

[@thomasdecato9786]

I have a 1870 with the loader and front mount snow blower also mower deck and 3 point hitch nought used for 10000 with 300 hours love the four wheel drive and this thing can really power thru high grass worth every penny.

[@SlackerU]

I almost bought one but luckily when I was emergency-purchasing there was a used-2370 with a loader that beat the new-1880 price. I put more hours in mowing but I use the loader more often than the number of times I mow.

[@jimmizner6901]

I bought a 1880 back in 2019, never needed more power- even bolted up my friends 50" green tiller and it pulled it perfectly. Europe uses the D722 on the B1620 series tractors

[@DjBrutal1ty]

Got both lawn tractor and sub compact, but think sub compact tractors should also get option for 4 wheel steering too be able too make better turning circles.

[@patrickwheatley6156]

Beautiful showroom

[@bartonmd]

Yep. We've got a tree farm that is basically bith sides of one ridge through the middle of it. Even with UTV tires, the zero turn is less mobile than we'd like. We've got a 62hp tractor, but considering going with a stripped down BX or one of the Korean subcompacts without a loader, just for mowing. They're the same price as a pro ZTR now that they have gone crazy in price, and especially in the hills that are hard on a ZTR, it'll last 3x as long and be 4wd. Mowing isn't as fast, but that's probably the only down side.

[@donaldstrishock3923]

I'll take the "Best one" with the angle iron frame & the Briggs & Statton.

[@briankleinschmidt3664]

I have a little Kubota backhoe loader. It's parked next to the garage. Some of it is in the garage, some of it is out on the property. It still runs, though.

[@mikesmathers5752]

Neil, while I completely understand where you are coming from, I went through this very same value equation when I bought my GR2120-2. I bought the GR with a bagger and snow blower. The equivalent BX1880 would have been a full 6k plus more expensive with the "bare" configuration you went through in this video. The $20k BX configuration which would be functionally similar to my GR config would have been far beyond my financial capabilities at the time. While I get what you are saying, if I was going to go in for over $20k, it would have made more sense to me to just get the BX2380 and a loader as well once I was in that deep. Fact of the matter is the GR does everything I NEED it to do at the price I could afford to pay. If I could have afforded the 26k of the BX2380 with loader, blower, and bagger, I would have just done it. If I had to do it now with the same financial constraints, I would wait for the GR instead of over-extending myself for more tractor than I actually need to do the work I do routinely. While I would love to have a loader and could find work for it, the fact is the VERY occasional use it would get would not be worth more than $10k+ more in initial purchase price. Thank you again for your time on this and keep up the great content!

[@shawnambrisco4598]

I 'Expected' my BX1860 to be a good 'all around' tractor,,, ~~~ But was pleasantly 'Shocked' to Discover just HOW NICE of a Cut the 54" Mower deck makes !!! ~~~ :) ~~~ While 'Zero Turns' are Undeniably FASTER,,, I'd put the Surprising Cut 'QUALITY' of these RIGHT UP THERE !!! ~~~ (With machines made ONLY to,,, cut grass !!!) ~~~ :)

[@SpartanZapp]

Neil you have it stated as the bx1880 being 13200 earlier in the video when comparing it to the Kubota garden tractor but then 11827 later in the video when comparing it to the John Deere x700 series.

[@trentstractor]

It may be the difference of the cost of the mower deck. Mower decks are not standard or included with the tractor.

[@tompiper3]

I went with a John Deere 1023e loader configured a couple years ago because of dealer convenience and oddly enough, it was cheaper than every single competitor at the time. It's 6 inches longer than the bx1880 but tighter turn radius. I can see a few situations where shorter might outweigh turning. I think Kubota has the better hydraulic disconnect figured out as well. At the time I paid $15,200, that same tractor on the Deere site is now over $20k. Ide never pay that now. I'm assuming Kubota is in the same ballpark with the bx2380. That extra 9hp is needed if you do snow removal of any sort too

[@brianhoxworth3881]

I would like to see some of the attachments for the bx.

[@goodboyringo9716]

A dealer told me that if you buy a used tractor ( because Kubota has none to sell you) some dealers won't fix the tractor under warranty because you didn't buy it from them. Even if the tractor is under warranty , the warranty follows the tractor . Why can't we all get along ?

[@MessicksEquip]

Any dealer who wants to build a customer base, will help you out. He is right and that sediment is out there, most of the time Dealers lose money on warranty work.

[@goodboyringo9716]

@@MessicksEquip ...Dealers losing money on warranty work isn't the buyers fault but we pay for it by not getting helped. Why have a warranty if it's no good ?

[@ragingbull1267]

@@MessicksEquip But warranties should be honored regardless. If a dealer is good to me I will continue to buy from them and do business with them. I used a dealer before and they were great to me with warranty work and I bought from them BUT they wouldnt do warranty work on the same brand bought from the box stores ( they say the box stores sell a cheap version of the model so its the box stores responsibility to fix it ) which I agree being they are made subpar to the dealership sold models.

[@chuckstimson9029]

Neal, How about a video explaining the tipping load specifications of a compact track loader?

[@royscarbrough3589]

A great comparison

[@ryancrazy1]

I want that MX6000 behind you. Finally got to see that one in person at the open house. Didn't get to see you there. I took a few drone shots of the property if you want them to use in videos.

[@MessicksEquip]

Make sure to say hi if you stop again

[@bradleybusby8826]

I have the loaded version except mower .Backhoe and bucket. Could not do without it.

[@jimhale1679]

Had an 1850. With a 54” deck and 48” tiller. Had loader valve but never used it. Jumped to 2750 with a 60”. Still never had need of a loader. But I have a JD7610 with a 740

[@derrickschumacher6975]

The county roads department loves the bx1880 for purely cutting with the 54”. Less items to destroy/heavier pieces and ROPs

[@paulmollise1856]

The one thing I can say running both is I can mow alot steeper banks sideways with my X series than I can with a 1 series or BX series, the garden tractors are more nimble but other than that buy a subcompact for the price, way more bang for your Buck

[@TheTreegodfather]

John Deere hasn't ever really been able to reproduce the insane success of the 318, imo.

[@troypriest4014]

Neil I have a MX5200 and my seat has came apart from the seat frame! Do you have any suggestions about reattaching it?

[@valet132011]

I had a b2620 yrs ago, and it was a great tractor. Thinking of another, wondering if a bx is enough. Seems like the box has more options available, and I definitely would want the backhoe

[@wildbill23c]

The BX23s (Backhoe model) might do the job as long as you don't need much lift capacity of the loader....you get about 400 pounds of lift capacity with the BX machines. Anymore than that and they really struggle.

[@valet132011]

@@wildbill23c I really only use it for moving snow... sometimes gravel spreading. Don't lift heavy often

[@1958johndeere620]

I would have gotten a 1880, but my wife needed the tilt wheel and better seat to operate. Got the 2380.

[@snickypicky5273]

I am looking into adding the tilt wheel to my 1880, the brackets seem simple enough to swap.

[@iowafox2206]

This is what I want to do someday when I get my own piece of land this is what I want. I think this is. Awesome idea for a big garden tractor. I am quite a fan of Kabota someday I'll have one.

[@Vaessen13]

I have the BX2680 and I use the front snowblower, front blade, and power broom to clean my chicken barn alongside my MX 5400. The BX 2680 is an absolutely fantastic machine and I use it more than my MX. I garden a lot and I can go anywhere with the BX and it lifts pretty well.

[@wildbill23c]

I have the BX2680 as well, its moved a lot of dirt, gravel, and sand this past year. Does a great job with my 50" RTR0550 Roto-Tiller as well. I've done a little mowing with it and it have a very nice cut for being a tractor more so than a lawn/tractor, I have the 60" mid mount mower deck.

[@stephenrichards5386]

I had the 2110 for 20 years with no problems and plenty of power

[@darylruhl639]

Good video Neal! A couple thoughts and corrections for you. The John Deere equivalent is a X758, not X750. The X758 with diesel and 4x4 base retail is $15,000, not a cheap machine by any means. While your opinion on the pricing factor is correct it is very important to remember application of the machine. A tremendous amount of X700 owners are using them almost exclusively mowing. You have spent enough time mowing lawn to know that the machine configuration is very important to the comfort, maneuverability, and efficiency of mowing grass. If all your doing is cutting grass, the BX is not the ideal machine, no matter how cheap it is. The X700 will be more compact, steer sharper, and much lighter weight which is better in most mowing applications. If your only looking at cost, your right, buy the BX but for most of the X700 owners out there, the X700 is the best fit even if it is more expensive. Garden tractors have not died, there is a tremendous pool of people who need and or want a garden tractor. Good video! I enjoy your accurate representation of equipment!

[@georgedoolittle7574]

Cub Cadet better than all combine and for ten grand less so people need to start becoming realistic about pricing of *EVERYTHING* at the moment given so much now flooding market for agriculture for *EVERYTHING* right and *STILL* excluding pure BEV offerings which are only now hitting the US market. Tesla has yet to even price their pure BEV Cybertruck out yet so until that comes out unless I was the type always jones'n for the latest and greatest wait until Spring be firmly sprung possibly as soon as 6 weeks even. *"Till is dust bins will bust"* as they say.

[@justinwhaley943]

We currently have an older Kubota B9200 that fills our tractor needs, but with moving to a new property we were looking at mowers. So I was getting quotes on some X700 series John Deeres as some relatives have one and I thought it was a great mower when I used it. Well I went and got some quotes, and basically talked myself out of it due to cost. I went to Kubota and was originally looking at the GR2120, but I saw the smallest tractor I've ever seen, a BX1880 without FEL and with a 54" deck and had to start weighing that as an option. I think if we were to compare a 7 series John Deere, you would have to compare the BX1880 to a X758 (diesel, 4wd), which has a list price of $17880 from my local dealer (54" deck so its apples to apples). Kubota quoted me 14,100 for a BX1880 with loader valve and 54" deck. With the BX1880 you get the same basic features as a X758, diesel + 4wd. Some pro's are its less expensive, has a 3 point and rear pto, ROPS (if you want to count that), and at least our local dealer had 0% for 84 month financing (John Deere had 4.9% for 60 months for their X700 series). Con's, I don't believe its as maneuverable, less HP ,and with the 3 point its longer. I was able to negotiate in a RTA1250 tiller with the BX for less than the X758. I'm telling myself its just a big garden tractor. Worst case scenario, if our B9200 bites the dust, I can get a loader for this tractor and be set, otherwise the plan is to keep it as a mower and eventually upgrade into a larger tractor to replace the B9200. Our BX is being delivered on Friday and I can't wait!

[@justinwhaley943]

I should add, John Deere quoted me a 1023e with 60" mower deck, no FEL, for 17,000.

[@MessicksEquip]

You got it. That's the same conclusion I come to.

[@YMF1891]

I don't think the BX1880 has any real direct competitor. But if you want one, spend the $750 and get it with the loader valve.

[@wildbill23c]

I think if it were me I'd buy the whole package, loader valve/loader, even if you don't use it, when you sell it or trade it in, it'll bring more money to your pocket than just a plain old stripped down over-sized garden tractor setup.

[@jhomrich89]

I feel the days of the heavy duty garden tractor are limited, Simplicity just discontinued the Legacy, Deere has discontinued many attachments you used to be able to get on the X700 including the loader and even my local Kubota dealer says their demand for the GR has declined as the capability of that machine is very limited and even if you had the option for a rear PTO many times on garden tractors as you mentioned Neil it would add a lot of cost to the price and now you would be able to get a BX which has it standard and it's a category 1, not a 0 like many garden tractors are making rear implements harder to find.

[@jimg8218]

Neal,, what would be the next best tractor than the GR that can mow slopping lawns

[@MessicksEquip]

I like the low center of gravity of zero turns, cub cadet has some advantages with their steering wheel models.

[@Ffew21]

What’s the part # on the grill guard that is on the 50th Anniversary L6060 in the background?

[@MessicksEquip]

Keep an eye on the channel, exciting things are coming!

[@macattack9041]

I think I’ll start calling my pontoon boat, a pond yacht because of this video

[@acdii]

I found the price for the Garden Tractors are quite a bit more than they should be for what you get. I needed a smaller tractor for lawn care several years ago and decided on a JD X500. It was expensive, but a lot less than a BX. After several years of owning and using it, it doesn't hold up as well as the Subcompact would. Parts are not cheap either, wife ran into a tree after running over a wasp nest and busted the hood. $1000 to replace. I had a tree fall on the hood of my B2410, it left a dent, and 16 years later, the dent is still there. Cost, $0. Looking back now, I would have been better off with a small subcompact with MMM instead. Would also have a higher resale value than the x500. Heck in 2012 my B2410 was selling at pretty much the same price I paid for it! Not so much for the Deere.

[@tractortalkwithgary1271]

When I bought my GR 2120, it was $2000 cheaper than the gas engine version of the 4wd Deere. I am absolutely sold on the glide steer feature of the GR 2120. Kubota doesn’t blow their horn loud enough on that brilliant feature, as far as I’m concerned. I still have an older Deere mower that pulls a lawn vac. It is still an excellent mower, but my go to mower is the GR 2120. Kubota, you hit a home run with this machine.

[@mikesmathers5752]

My GR2120-2 is a brilliant piece of equipment, and it truly shines in the winter when I have the snow blower on it. I can keep pace with my neighbor and his BX2360 with front mount blower, inch for inch, foot for foot, and I am more maneuverable than he is. I wish I had the BX, but it was not in the cards for me financially.

[@tractortalkwithgary1271]

@@mikesmathers5752 , my neighbor mowed my lawn for me while I was on vacation. He has a zero turn and a big John Deere. He was so impressed with the GR 2120 that he wanted to trade both of his off but now they can’t get any in to the dealer. He wants to buy mine but it is not nor will it ever be for sale.

[@zeusdagmire6185]

I bought a GR 2120 because it is one of the most capable garden tractors for hilly properties. It has the speed of the zero turns and great turning ability. If you got a hill that scares you and need to cut it I trust this tractor over all the others. I have a MX5400 for heavy work and GR2120 for lawn and sidewalk snowblowing.

[@On_The_Farm]

Deere, like Kubota is not pushing the garden tractors so much anymore, other than their retail version sold at big box stores. The whole market has shifted to subcompacts.

[@austincantu4375]

What would you say the resale value a bx1880 holds? Compared to a garden tractor or bigger tractor?

[@anthonyyakimetz4653]

I was thinking I think I would get the valve just for resale even if I was never going to use it but I would just get the valve also just because of all the more things it now opens ur “garden tractor”up to doing like plowing the driveway ect to make it worth spending the more $ on the beefier tractor not that u can’t do that stuff with a garden tractor just the bx would be better like I know u could get a loader for x700 tractors but I doubt it will lift or work like a subcompact

[@jagx234]

@@anthonyyakimetz4653 the added regulation that anything loader equipped having to have rops killed those 45 loaders. X585 was a perfect little rural life tractor.

[@tpfromcentralpa1692]

Off topic and side question Neil, do you guys sell hay preservative in small 15 gal drums or 5 gal buckets? I have no luck on the website and CNH part numbers don't come up? The other C/IH dealer closest to me shows it available so I assume I am not looking in the right spot on your website.............and since your the web guru..........😀

[@MessicksEquip]

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[@tpfromcentralpa1692]

@@MessicksEquip Great! Thanks!

[@jamesb2291]

This is no comparison between a lawnmower and a real tractor, even a small one like a BX.

[@tomarnold995]

Can you tell me what the tractor in the background is? The one that looks like it has a Lane Shark on the front!

[@MessicksEquip]

L6060

[@stuglenn1112]

I bought a Deere 1025R four years ago, I priced it against a X-758 with a three point hitch and PTO added. The 1025R was actually cheaper. I think part of that kind of strangeness with the price is marketing, The X-758 is a top of the line lawn/garden tractor where the 1025 is low end sub-compact.

[@dirtbeard108]

still the same. I went to buy a x758, saw the price and said lets get a bx quote. Ouch.. so i went back to get price on 1025r and it was the lowest price of the three. By about $3000 under a x758 and $4200 less than a 2680

[@dalemarshall9736]

Had looked at GR a while back and opted for stripped down BX1880 with 54" mower because of features like size, PTO, 3 PT hitch, etc. However, after a couple of years circumstances changed and sold the BX and opted with B2301 with 54" mower, bucket, box blade, and grapple.

[@LetsGoStrongBros]

Price error? I noticed at 3:58 the bx1880 is $13,900 but at 6:35 it is $11,827. Maybe I missed something?

[@MessicksEquip]

$13,900 includes a 54" mower deck while the $11,827 is just the base tractor.

[@chriseagle7231]

"A Liddell bit, a Liddell bit, a Liddell bit" -Neil. In every video

[@anderleof]

So you compare a JD garden tractor to a Kubota sub-compact.

[@mikesmathers5752]

No, he compared the COST vs capability and features.

[@jtraveny]

i just found out that even the cub cadet garden tractor with the drive shaft is no longer around as well. kinda sucks

[@drich6816]

Can the ROPS be unbolted from the tractor?

[@MessicksEquip]

Yes, but...

[@billfischer6464]

Can a BX handle a 6' rear finish mower?

[@rogersturner3061]

Depends on height and density of the grass

[@seamusmcmahon1182]

That compact tractor should come fitted with that valve

[@BenaiahHenry]

Interesting video, but why is there a $2k difference in the price of the bx1880 at the beginning of the video when compared to the GR and at the end when compared to the John deere options?

[@MessicksEquip]

Deere does not come with a standard deck, GR does. So the BX pricing followed that.

[@BenaiahHenry]

Ah, thanks for the follow up!

[@davehudson4607]

Hey Neil, how does Kioti compare?

[@MessicksEquip]

The Kioti subcompact was purchased from New Holland a few years ago. We knew that version well. It's reliable, but lacks several features, comfort, and better hydraulic operation the Kubota has.

[@billpollock1763]

On a BX1880 does the deck lift work separately from the rear lift arms?

[@MessicksEquip]

No, they tie together.

[@billpollock1763]

@@MessicksEquip John Deere are the same and it sucks, customers are always damaging deck mounts

[@ryanv3751]

Did you put the wrong price on the BX in the Deere comparison?

[@MessicksEquip]

The first pricing includes the mower deck to compare with the GR that comes with a standard mower deck. All units in that Deere comparison chart are without a mower deck.

[@ryanv3751]

@@MessicksEquip thanks for the clarification

[@rebeccaedwards8262]

Check out the Massey Ferguson sub compact.

[@MessicksEquip]

They don't have a model in this horsepower class and price range. Same as Deere.

[@rocksandoil2241]

My experience with Kubota left a lot to be desired- especially a dealer who kept reassuring me that the Kubota injector pumps never failed. Only after I took the tractor to a real mechanic was it determined it was shooting fuel out around the bearing. I wasted money on 2 transfer pumps that were not defective. When I traded that tractor in I made sure I never even sit foot in the Kubota dealers yard.

[@jtltet]

The day I pay $13k for a lawn mower is the day I'm pushing up daisies.

[@Morpheen999]

For the price difference you'd be silly not to go with the BX, your capability goes through the roof compared to the GR or the Deere X series

[@mikesmathers5752]

Easy to say when money is no object. I had to pick the GR2120-2 over the BX because the BX was going to be WAY more money, as I also have the front mount blower and rear bagger. The BX was not a financially smart move for me at the time. I would make the same decision today.

[@macattack9041]

Talking about installing that loader valve I know you didn’t just say it’s hard because you have to take the seat and the floor pan off, dude it’s a couple of bolts.

[@shanechostetler9997]

Be put 2000 hours on our BX24 on our 32 acre farm. I bought it because my wife and small kids who had never driven any equipment, and I figured that they could learn on this size machine. I wish I had just bought a 30-40 horsepower one from the beginning, but everything we did with it saved us a lot of manual labor.

[@noelcahill6707]

Do ye not get the bx or the Gr 2120 with a rear collector

[@derekscott1650]

Kubota has a PTO powered collector for the BX.

[@wildbill23c]

You can get both with a bagger, but way too much of a PITA....there's an aftermarket bagger/collector that has a clamshell design which has a electro-hydraulic hopper door so you just backup to your grass pile and hit a button to dump it...but its even more ridiculously expensive than the OEM bagger.

[@derekscott1650]

I'm very happy with the powered bagger for my use case. Emptying 3 bags isn't going to kill me and it's on and off quickly. It only get used for spring and fall cleanup. Also works well in tight landscaping. Save me the you-spent-too-much-this-is-better crap

[@noelcahill6707]

@@derekscott1650 on the british and irish market u can get the bx as a 54 in rear collector john deere has the same the x950r its a 48 or 54inch rear collector

[@matthewmurray5956]

Do you guys work woods mowing machines ? You have earned my business for my Kubota but I need work on my zero turn.

[@MessicksEquip]

Yes we do. We sold those for years.