The Laney Sound -vs- The Marshall Sound

[@Kashed]

Both have their own unique tone but, can we give a thumbs up to that bass tone!!! It sounded AMAZING! Keep rockin Johan! 🤘🏻🎸

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks! Glad you like it. I’m a fan of bridge mud buckers

[@jasondorsey7110]

​@@JohanSegebornIs it a real mudbucker or one of those fakebuckers the japanese sometimes used?

[@maxvockner]

Making me rethink my bass rig with that setup. Always need another 😂 have a trinity Amps B15 kit and a ampeg v4 that sound great at their ideal volumes. Looking up mudbuckers. Those amps sound amazing

[@saucerfullofzepp4203]

The marshall and Lanel are amazing BUT the sound of the lake next to the mountains in Switzerland when it gently hits the rocks is AMAZING!!!!

[@geschickt]

Correction: Sweden@@saucerfullofzepp4203

[@zuperdee]

Wow!!!! I bet there’s nobody else on KZbin who’s been able to document so much vintage and classic gear, nor as many different combinations as you have! Your channel is a real treasure! 😉

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks, it’s really good to hear that!

[@dasczwo]

uh nice one… funny how small those big amps sound. no thundering lows… band makes em big. maybe make a vid on that supposed. billy gibbons quote „want a big sound? get a small amp“. pignose makes a great bass amp

[@helio1055]

fr I wish i was rich…

[@johnb4024]

The Laney sounds like it has some extra evilness to it! Thanks Johan

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks! Yeah that’s the USP of the Laney! 😁

[@frustreradpunk]

I don't know what we would do without you Johan! Hands down the most entertaining and enlightening channel on youtube.

[@eddieholmes3236]

100%!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks, really glad to hear that!

[@bille77]

Except Pewdepie.

[@WackorMiki]

Thanks for the great work over the years. It is a sort of tone mythbusting, much appreciated. Since I discovered your channel, I use it is a reference. I've been recording and producing albums for decades but instead of explaining things over and over again, I just direct folks to listen to your videos. It is all there, all the nuances and differences, perfectly matching to what I experienced over the years. Thank you, mate!

[@EdgarsLS]

Your full mix sound is getting better and better!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks! Really good to hear that!

[@RobCmusic]

The doubled riff sounds amazing. Both setups are spot on and those huge kick and snare drums help make the whole thing sound massive. Nicely done!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks! Really good to hear that!

[@alanst.4417]

Well said.

[@pstraums]

Nothing wrong with ANYTHING in that video!! Sounds *killer* 100%!! impressive playing and "production" too Johan

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks my friend! 🤘

[@alanst.4417]

With Johan's hard work, creative and unique approach I think he had deserved 100k subs years ago. In fact I don't understand why he hasn't got twice as much...

[@pstraums]

@@alanst.4417 100% 🤘

[@jcoulter43]

Love to see the Brothers Segeborn back together! Great riffage and I loved both tones. They pair well together. Marshall was more creamy and saturated. Laney was more raw and cutting. Seemed like less gain, but no less brutal. Very Iommi-esque like you said. Fantastic stuff as usual Maestro Johan. God bless and rock on 🎸😎👍

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks man glad to hear it! Rock on!

[@maxwellblakely7952]

This righteous riffage I may borrow!

[@70mcnevin]

Thank you for the massive effort you have to put into making your vintage gear comparisons. Hauling big cabs around isn't easy, So it definitely has to be a labor of love. Hopefully these videos will be around forever as a reference or in a library of some kind long after we are all gone.

[@ChristopherFreedom]

You never fail to deliver my friend! That was fantastic! You are one of the most underrated channels on KZbin... you should have over a million Subscribers! Eventually people will realize what a gem of a channel you have and it will attract the large number of followers you deserve! I really enjoyed that raw sound of the Laney!

[@donsmith5385]

Awesome comparison! People always discounted Laney amps. Johan just proved what they are all about.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks Don! Yeah the Laney has such a disobedient vibe to it!

[@omarshaheen807]

Well I'm just a bit disappointed that they turned out to be less gainy than the Marshalls despite being the amps that gave us metal

[@SuperGaryBurns]

Sounds like a leftover track/demo from the first Montrose album...really cool stuff 👍

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks my friend :-)

[@DMSProduktions]

THIS is gonna be a MONSTER comp of EPIC proportions!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Cheers DMS! 😀

[@DMSProduktions]

@@JohanSegeborn C U soon! \m/

[@maxwellblakely7952]

Dude, one of the best videos that you’ve ever posted!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks, really good to hear that!

[@ReidGraves]

You're having way too much fun, Johan! Excellent riffing!!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks! I sure am 😂

[@joesampson2322]

Such an awesome sounding mix - this sound is whats missing in modern rock

[@GuajoloteGonzales]

I liked the Laney better, it has a fuller body and a more balanced response, also i like that most of the Laneys i had heard didn't had any speaker fizziness, while the Marshall sounded to me quite thin on the body and with a janglier, fizzier response.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks!

[@jlavere]

Love it when every instrument has its own voice. I like the combo.

[@teletran1175]

I'm surprised I liked the Laney better. It sounded fantastic!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks! Glad to hear that

[@kurtbader9711]

Laney/SG for sure, but maybe I'm not being impartial. Your posts are always fun and informative, thanks.

[@raphaeljung6722]

Hej Johan, apart from your killer guitar work on the Marshall (as usual) and on the Laney, I am deeply impressed by your drumming and bass playing on this track. You sound killer!!! And Laney and Marshall match up so well. Impressive. Keep it up, man!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks Raphael! Makes my day to hear that

[@ornerycuss5804]

I really like the quacky honky sound of the Laney. It doesn't sound nasally or flat...it just has a brash glassy sound that although I think stands perfectly fine on its own, blends very nicely with the Marshall here.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks, glad to hear it!

[@scotthutchens1203]

I thought the Laney actually had better mids and was warmer while the Marshall had a raspier sound that I didn’t care for as much-and I’m usually a Marshall guy. In the late 80’s I bought a Laney Pro-Tube 100 made in the mid 80’s which was Laney’s answer to the JCM800 and it was better than a JCM800.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks Scott

[@kurtbader9711]

I used 2 aor pro-tube heads in the late'80's and early '90's. Loved the gain and versatility but they were so hissy I ended up using a rack preamp and just the Laney power sections. I think they were too complicated for their own good. Owned an earlier Laney with two 6ca7s, basic Marshall style layout knobwise, and that thing kicked major a**. One of the ones you wish didn't get away.

[@Illsamustache]

I had a Laney GH50L a little over 10 years ago. It was a AOR but with more bass. It’s an incredible amp and made a Marshall JCM800 sound weak in comparison.

[@Turboy65]

Marshall-Hiwatt-Laney three way shootout. You know we want to see it.

[@JohanSegeborn]

That’s a good idea. I need to get a Hiwatt

[@ЭдгарМихайловский-и8к]

@@JohanSegebornyeeeeeeah more Hiwatt 😎👍

[@rickmckee8270]

Johan,Thank you for all of the cool gear that you share with us.

[@darrellminx5459]

Great video Johan. Both amps are classic and sound great. The Laney breaks up a little bit more but I would be hard pressed to pick one. Monster tone and great tune. Thank you Johan. Cheers from Hawaii. Darrell

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks Darrell! Cheers!

[@eddieholmes3236]

Both sounded great in the mix. Thanks Johan!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks! I’m glad you like it!

[@U2pSandman]

Awesome demo Johan ! Always wanted to hear them side by side. Both are great to my ears. The laney comes out nicely when playing riffs while the Marshall works really well when playing room wide chords. Clearly both are different but they augment each other well.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks, glad you like it!

[@javableak]

The bass sound is spectacular, I love it!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks, glad you like it!

[@keithcampbell9017]

I usually played Marshalls in my punk rock days. But I also owned some Orange, Laney, and Sound City amps at that time. They were all very cool and unique. I usually used the Marshalls for live performances. Thanks KC

[@timetraveler8777]

Wow! my two favorites amps of all time Marshall 1959slp and Laney Supergroup really great tone! and great playing

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks! Glad you like them!

[@imcttunome]

Just, so well done, Johan. Cheers!!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks, really glad to hear that! Cheers!

[@nr1229]

For years one of the best youtubers with just the nicest community! Great tunes! Though I think you should have used the same guitar on both amps.

[@buffdoc46]

Dayum, you upped your game. Love this format. The Marshall with that guitar just sounded amazing. Laney has too much bottom end but still a great tone.

[@FabrizioCalderara76]

The Laney surely sounds good but man...the Marshall tone still amazes me every time that I hear it!

[@hellsing1983]

I really liked the Laney sound here.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks!

[@leeforrester466]

What a great idea! As always your videos are always lots of fun

[@looking_33]

Johan, impressive playing here, really! Talented multi-instrumentalist! 🤘

[@geschickt]

Wow! Fantastic rock performance by the Segeborn Band! ;) Love the biting, slightly nasal Laney sound (almost as much as the Marshall--very nice), but it's hard to tell how much is attributable to the treble booster and/or that cab + speaker combination? Nevertheless, a very enjoyable comparison--thanks to The Johan Four!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks! Yeah the speakers and treble booster is indeed important factors

[@alanst.4417]

...and the Segeborn brothers crocs gang strikes again! Very strong this time with both Marshall and Laney half stacks. Definitely among my most favourites, the bass and drum tracks have a great vibe and your riffage is very catchy! Hope it's gonna be a part of your album someday... The amps seem to compliment each other well, although the Laney seems to stay more in the background. Wonder why some bands didn't use this combination? Cheers and rock on Johan🤘

[@DangerAmbrose]

They are a fantastic complement of each other.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks I think so too! Both in terms of frequencies and attitude

[@willhoren9200]

Sounds great. Staying on beat while tapping your foot off beat is a hidden talent.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Hahaha! Yeah it’s a tail rather than a foot

[@SlinkyT82]

Great tune and killer tone (as usual)! They pair up exceedingly well! Cheers.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks, glad to hear it! Cheers!

[@Mark70609]

I would have preferred to hear one amp at a time. I thought the circuit of the 1959 and the Laney were nearly the same. What speakers did the Laney use?

[@mawashigerimasa]

Those blend so well together👍👍

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks!

[@mattl4925]

Mix sounds fantastic! Great stuff as always

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks Matt!

[@narvul]

Great playing and sounds like always Johan! But.... how can you compare two amps with two different guitars and (even worse) two different cabinets both in size and speakers, Goodmans vs Celestion?

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks! We’re comparing the rigs not the amps. These are the quintessential cabs for respective brand 4x12 with T1221 for the Marshall and 4x12 with T1976 for Laney. Both Greenbacks by the way.

[@RUBBERTANK_3]

1 great thing about living in the middle of sweden is NO NEIGHBOURS! I can rock out as loud as I wnt at 2am with no complaints. dig the jam man loving it.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks man glad to hear it!

[@stevestarr6395]

Both fantastic amps with their own unique sound!!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Cheers!

[@stevestarr6395]

@@JohanSegeborn Cheers Johan 🍻

[@SajidWaikhom]

everything about this production is so cool!!

[@darrenc8776]

Absolutely killer track Johan. Marshall and Laney are great together has you prove here. Don't know many bands, if any, played both together

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks Darren! I don’t know of any such band either

[@cary67]

Would love to see you demo a Laney AOR series from the '80's.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Yeah I’m really curious about those too. First chance I get

[@jogo2000]

I really like the bass tone! Great playing.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks! Great to hear that!

[@hcnilsson]

Sån härlig vibe på videon, underbar demonstration ! 👏

[@JohanSegeborn]

Tackar, Gott att höra!

[@BigEdWo]

So eine schöne Stimmung in den Videos, wunderbare Demonstration!

[@thejackdevinemusic]

the guitar tones are amazing... but THAT BASS TONE!! oh my god!

[@Doodlebug1996]

Both sound really good together. I would choose the laney

[@M27USMC]

Ph.D Johan is back. That is one I have never played or even seen in person, a Laney.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Cheers 😉

[@taylornoble8475]

Would love to see a demo/hear your thoughts on the Pro Tube series

[@eckhardt76]

As I warching this I was thinking do I want to sound more like Angus Young or Tony Iomi ??? lol.. Grear comparision video and nice playing too.

[@metalmilitia01]

As others have said, they sound great combined and also compliment each other really well. I think the Marshall has more of a bark, especially in the top end. The Laney has a wonderful thick and unrefined, almost growl-like tone. Thanks for demonstrating them both so well together! I don't think Laney amps get anywhere near the recognition they deserve. I have an old 100W AOR head but would love a Supergroup too, unfortunately they are prohibitively expensive! Out of curiousity, have you ever tried a LA30BL? I wonder how it would compare.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks! Yeah Laney is a huge part of hard rock tone. I haven’t tried the LA30BL yet though I’m afraid

[@LaneyAmplification]

@@JohanSegeborn we need to make that happen, Johan! get in touch!

[@HollisAudioLabs]

Johan, did you try the classic Laney setup with the treble booster into the bass high input on the LA60BL/LA60LBO head? It would tame some of the upper end fizz of the Laney Treble input with the treble booster and the metal dome Celestions. Also a pass on I got for Tony Iommi's mid '70s rig, the speakers used with the Laney rig were JBL D120F orange frames with the 4in metal dust cap.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Yeah, I know he used the bass channel, but with this rig I liked this the best. Do you have any reference for the JBLs?

[@HollisAudioLabs]

@@JohanSegeborn This was a comment on my channel "A Google search brings it up eventually. I know a Fender Twin was used on the SBS album and that probably also had the JBL's in it. John "Dawk" Stillwell (r.i.p) confirmed on his old website that the Laney cabs he inspected in Sabbath's lockup in 1979 had orange frame D120F's."

[@jefft5854]

Lovely sounds! I would be curious to hear it with guitars swapped. Maybe it's just me but I think there is a distinct SG tone on the Laney.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks! These guitars are actually very similar sounding, the Nordin is a bit more dynamic. The Laney tone is so associated with SG and Sabbath so I also intuitively cone to think of SG when I play it

[@youngandrew66]

The only guy on KZbin playing big rhythm guitar and not trying to widdle likeJohn Mayer or stevie malmsteen

[@dougsaroma]

That's a righteous jam! Killer tones.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks Doug, glad to hear it!

[@markn4526]

Cool vid! Both set-ups sound great, but different of course. The Marshall has the signature Marshall "KERRAG" in the upper-mids. The Laney is a little fuller sounding...low-mids maybe. Laney amps typically dark-sounding usually requiring a treble boost of some sort and Marshall amps just sounding they way they sound, I'll go for the Marshall, keeping in mind though that I'm a Marshall-guy. They'd sound the best together in a band situation. I liked the gear provided courtesy of Carlsburg as well!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks! Yeah can’t get too much Carlsberg

[@Mr.Steve-O]

The Laney Lionheart is one of my favorite amps ever made !!

[@LeonRHarvey]

Felt like the Laney excelled at bringing out more of the guitar's characteristics while the Marshall just sounded like a Marshall

[@JohanSegeborn]

Yeah the Marshall tone is great but slightly overused so it can easily seem like a cliche

[@GShockWatchFan.]

Love what your playing. What cords are they?

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks, that’s E0 G0 G#0 E1 in the verse and C, G, A, E stick

[@mcmentalmusicmakers3219]

Straight up I'm leaning too the Marshal. Together they fill the freq range nicely, but the fuller tone of Jim's box wins. Try these with a practice or cheap amp or like a Fender Champ

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks

[@johncollins5552]

Laney cuts better but Marshall has the tone we love from so many great recordings and legendary players, great production❤

[@jeffslade1892]

My experience with Laney is they can imitate Marshall with broadly similar Celestions in the cabs. Laney can play a trick with the second pre-amp (gain) valve to alter its biassing on the fly, which Marshall don't do. The cabinets, typically birch ply, could be of more variable quality than Laney. You could take two amps of the same model off the peg and they would sound different.

[@ianorourke6320]

Wow! Awesome combination

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks Ian!

[@spideymarino]

Great video. I think they work really well together in the mix but I easily prefer the tone of the Marshall when listening to them individually. 👍

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks! Glad you like it

[@russiangoose7053]

Amazing! I think the clear solution is to run both at the same time 😉 maybe throw in an old OR120 halfstack to complete the British wall of sound!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks! All courses on the menu stirred down n a bucket a la Terry Jones!

[@fletches4084]

No substitute for a good 4x12. Currently rocking a Laney VC30 212 fitted with Hiwatt speakers and jolly nice it is too.

[@AnodyneHipsterInfluencer]

Cool. I've always wanted a Super Group. I'd be very interested to hear each amp through their own - and then through each other's - matching 4x12 cab. Rock on Johan!

[@jimmyjams1974]

@johansegeborn your playing is great as usual! You really should consider recording and album!

[@-rubbersoul-]

thanks Johan!!! so funny lstening at high volume! you rock all gear long!!!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks! Yeah that’s how it should be consumed

[@adrianczechowski481]

Great song/sound! ....from this kind of songs which you could play all night long ;) Regards.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks man! 😁Glad to hear it

[@RocketDaryl]

Who doesn't love those old Marshall Plexi sounds? That said, I'm more of a Laney guy. They just seem to have a bit more a full frequency spectrum to my ears. They're just a better fit for me. But, again, if I were doing a fly in and all that was available was the Marshall, I wouldn't complain any. :)

[@riangarianga]

Whohoo, what a huge wall of great sounds!!! 🤘😛(that's Dio's horns in Sabbath + Gene Simmons tongue).

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks! 😉 Glad to hear it

[@NRobertAlexander]

I'm surprised that Laney is the more nasally one. I have a VH100R and it's a rather warm, mid-range sounding amp. I absolutely love it especially when it's on the "Lead" channel.

[@jonnybeck6723]

Nice tones, and that drummer... He's a machine

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks Jonny, that’s kind of you!

[@jonnybeck6723]

@@JohanSegeborn Hey mate, you're doing the work and harvesting some cool stuff... Rock on (!)

[@jazz_grooves]

They sound awesome together Johan!! They really compliment each other well. Great playing as usual Johan!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks Jeff! Good to hear that

[@Twobarpsi]

Great song and riffs Johan!! I'll always pick Marshall 🤘!! It is the sound of rock!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks glad to hear it!

[@CyberChrist]

Special thanks for the soloed parts ;)

[@cornfilledscreamer614]

Both sound good, but I prefer the Laney. Has more meat to it, and Marshall's have always had a tendency to make double coil pickups sound kind of single-coil/Strat'ish to me.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks!

[@Tonneback]

Great clip. Do you prefer the Ironman II as attenuator now?

[@ampturcoguitarwerks]

Can you just put an album out already and win a Grammy? Come on!!! We’ve been waiting forever for the debut album called LETS GO! ⚡️⚡️⚡️

[@michaelstankiewitch5391]

I ready to buy the entire album just based on that riff .That's your 1970's band "The Crunch Berries"

[@semdallinga69]

Both sound great! Would love to hear them through the same speakers though, I think some G12M's could tame that high end on the Laney a bit

[@sandorbronn1661]

Laney side's got a Treble Booster on it.

[@semdallinga69]

@@sandorbronn1661 Ah I forgot about that, thanks

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks glad to hear it!!laney is actually a pretty dark amp. I played through G12M T1221 a couple of videos ago when I aimed for the early sabbath tone

[@semdallinga69]

@@JohanSegeborn Ah right! Loved the tone in that video though, might have to look into getting a Supergroup (as soon as I can afford one)…

[@r4x2]

The answer is YES

[@JohanSegeborn]

Cheers!

[@Engineeringnome]

Holy S#%%!!!.... When does the Segeborns go on tour? Imagine how good this would be live.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Hahaha! Once they tighten up a bit… 😁

[@gesp5151]

Very much fits with my feelings about both over years. Marshall is a tighter more nasally sound, Laney is more tone full with a wider range of sound. So Marshall works in a band setting by being in a limited acoustic spectrum. With the Laney things can get out of control!!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Yeah the Laney is more dangerous sounding 😀

[@vintagetone22]

Great amps both.well done king.🌹⚘⚘🎸🎸🙏🙏🙏🤟

[@HandToolWoodGuy]

The Marshall just kills!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks!

[@kiillabytez]

Most people buy a Marshall for the simple fact that all their favorite players used one. Plus, Laney isn't synonymous with Rock the way Marshall is. It's a shame because Laney is the sound which helped create Heavy Metal, and that's why it's my go to amp for ANY situation.

[@robinstahlbaum9813]

nice.. dig the Marshall's tone more

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks Robin!

[@msh6865]

Johan, not only can you come up with some amazing demo hooks, you could also probably step on a cats tail and it would sound great! 😁