The Last Guardian PS5 Runs At 60FPS... But How? And What's The Catch?

PlayStation 5 owners with PS+ subscriptions get instant access to The Last Guardian via PS4 back-compat, but it's locked at 30fps. The system is capable of so much more - in fact, it can run pretty much locked at full 60fps - but you need an original disc copy of the game to do it. And there are some drawbacks... Tom takes you through it all.
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[@KraaaHKen]

Come on now Sony, give us that patch! This game deserves it.

[@AlexYs03]

Bloodborne deserves a 60fps patch as well and we sure as hell won't receive one for the looks of it. I'd be glad to be wrong though!

[@KraaaHKen]

@@AlexYs03 Agreed. Bloodborne is my favorite game of the last generation.

[@ewerton8463]

japan studio is kaput, they're not gonna revisit this game

[@levelperfecto]

@@AlexYs03 Almost every ps4 exclusives need 60fps patches. God of war, bloodborne, hzd and so on.

[@jaahman0098]

@@levelperfecto god of war already has 60 fps

[@DebugMenu]

Oh hey it was a pleasure to help out a little with the research on this video. I still haven’t played this game sadly 😔

[@Damstructions-funny]

Awesome with a straight face

[@MisterDrumsNoob]

You are awesome, Lance! Thank you

[@therobotchickenMLP]

You're not missing much. It's nice that it no longer runs like absolute shit on PS5 (on PS4, there's a section that can play in slow motion for 10 minutes because of how poorly the game runs), but I doubt this makes up for the horrible-feeling controls, and it certainly can't make up for Trico's stubborn AI.

[@CheriptheRipper]

@@therobotchickenMLP to each his own, I personally thought it was the best ps4 exclusive and best overall game I played on the console.

[@ncorcoran29]

This is an asshole video! I thought we got a patch instead hes reporting launch day news like a pos

[@SkarrGaming]

Considering this is one of the games you can download for free on PS5, this needs another patch to get it running at 60fps along with the added features you get with the 1.03 patch. Same goes for Bloodborne.

[@sethfeldpausch4337]

I agree, but Bloodborne would definitely be harder, as many of the enemies’ movements are tied to the 30fps cap, so doubling it would throw off the animations. It’s definitely possible, as people have modded it to work, but it is a bit more complicated than other games.

[@MrRogordo]

@@sethfeldpausch4337 I mean, I'd prefer Bluepoint giving Bloodborne the Demon's Souls treatment and will happily pay the 70 USD.

[@bobba515]

@@MrRogordo uhm, bloodborne is a ps4 game anf doesnt need a full remake. It still looks great

[@DuckAlertBeats]

@@bobba515 But runs terribly, that's the point

[@bobba515]

@@DuckAlertBeats it doesnt need a full remake, it can get a PS5 remaster for that

[@kalemregier]

Key phrase “We need official support”’

[@JimboJones99]

4K + 120fps + Ray Tracing ... Or else ... No sale.

[@kalemregier]

@@JimboJones99 my standards aren’t that high, but i hope you get what you’re looking for.

[@emlyndewar]

@@JimboJones99 The PS6 is a long way off.

[@belland_dog8235]

@@JimboJones99 lmao, I guess you're not sold then. Dude lower your standards, this is a console. High end computers can barely do that, if they can at all

[@SakuraSackboy]

I love how this game was originally designed for PS3..

[@sukamadik5983]

I remember watching the original trailer for this and just losing my s*** dreaming of the day it would come out, I was not expecting the wait we got for it.

[@kevindie]

*_I remember GameStop cancelling my PS3 preorder because the game “didn’t exist”._* 😮

[@lemming9984]

LG is the sole reason I chose PS3 over 360. Neither had great games at launch, but I bought a PS3 the day after LG was announced!

[@rowanunderwood]

This game is why I BOUGHT A PS3 lol.

[@AJ-xv7oh]

Yeah it feels like it aswell. Awful game.

[@steven_lobo]

The final hour of this game is the most amazing ending sequence of any game.

[@chrisgilliver1]

It's a tie between this and Outer Wilds.

[@JonoK79]

The final hour of this game was.. yeah.. I can't really describe it without being a sobbing mess. I've never been so emotional about a game. Ever.

[@chrisl4327]

@@JonoK79 This, 100%. I want to replay this game, I do…But holy hell, the ending messed me up. Hit me so freaking hard. So yeah, there’s a definite hesitancy towards another playthrough, but I’ve been trying to talk myself into it.

[@heisenbergwhite00]

The last Guardian, Dreams, Gravity Rush 2, Concrete Genie are some of the most underrated Gems of the last generation, these are goty type material that just didn't get considered because of other games on the same year.

[@Smonk83]

you‘re god damn right.

[@jmgaming9158]

LG just ran too bad and the long wait made everyone lose interest in it sadly. Although it is good to just play instead of create, dreams is really just for the creative crowd so its a niche...and is mostly filled with meme, unoriginal copies like mario and horribly created games lol. Gravity rush 2 was only ok imo and that coming from me who loved the first game on the vita.

[@Solegor]

Sadly some games just fall through the cracks. For example Puppeteer on ps3 or even Tearaway on ps4 are largely forgotten by now

[@acuity1980]

It was easy allies' goty at least.

[@abbykickass3210]

Great point, I've stuck with Playstation over the years because of games like these just as much as their bigger well known franchises. These hidden gems deserve more attention as they give you a far more unique experience over the more well known franchises. I'd Also like to add Everybody's Golf & Dreams to that list as they have given me so much amazing playing hours yet never get the recognition they deserve.

[@KoolMB]

All the games featured in the "PSN Collection" should have been optimized for PS5 on day one!

[@ObservableObserver]

This game is such an underrated gem of the last generation.

[@Soremwar]

Any game from Fumito Ueda is a masterpiece

[@BillB808]

Yes but compared to the masterwork ICO (and to be honest SOTC) it was a massive massive let down. Still special compared to the other crap these days

[@Soremwar]

@@BillB808 Shadow of the Colossus is a game that in its simplicity is hardly comparable to anything that has come out since. Can't blame them for not getting there

[@lemming9984]

@@BillB808 Ico was my fave Ueda game too. I'm gonna replay Last Guardian from disc when I eventually get a PS5.

[@rustyshackleford3401]

Absolutely. Don’t take DF’s word and play it without the patch though. It will hard lock without fail at several points throughout the game. Cannot understand how they’ve failed to mention this.

[@sekizuri1017]

Funny how the collective opinion slowly changes for true masterpieces. GiantBomb didn’t even review the game, scolded by IGN, and now it’s slowly getting the recognition it deserves

[@shotgunmasterQL]

From what I have seen, the general discussion around the game has been getting more divisive. Sure, the game journalist are now probably foaming at the mouth about this game, but general comments and such around the game have gotten way more polarized. At around launch, some people loved it, some liked it, some had a hard time enjoying it, and some simply hated it. Now it seems like people either love it, haven't given it a try yet, or spit pure poison about the game... I loved it, but the bane of that game IMO was that the grip system was automatic. The AI was fine.

[@danmann861]

It looks and plays better than ever at 60. I had a great time replaying it at 60. But I did have one hiccup. I had one major crash that was only resolved by downloading the patch. The only way I could get past that one segment was to download the patch, play that segment with patch and then delete the game and reinstalling original version to finish at version 1.00 It was the bridge section shown in the 2015 E3 demo. Everytime you try to make the jump over to Trico as the platform collapses, it would freeze up. My guess is it had something to do with the scripted event that followed and maybe the scripted cut scene was transitioning down to 30fps and thus screwing up causing the lock up. But I can’t say for sure. All I know is that one section would lock up everytime I tried to play it. All I know is it was resolved once I downloaded the patch and played past that segment.

[@HugoStiglitz88]

Wait, you only had trouble at the bridge? I had trouble at 2 more spots besides the bridge. That's really weird that you only had one freeze at the bridge. I also had another freeze at another bridge (the one that's kind of like a tunnel and it starts falling apart) and towards the end right before the big fight (not the one in the white tower but, the BIG FIGHT (I'm trying to avoid saying spoilers))

[@danmann861]

@@HugoStiglitz88 Yeah, that was the one spot I had trouble with and didn't have an issue elsewhere. Weird. I've heard others had similar problems with it locking up though. All the more reason the game needs a proper PS5 patch. It'd be great to get those problems ironed out and get true 60fps support for PS5 with a game that is optimized for the hardware.

[@HugoStiglitz88]

@@danmann861 they probably have to look at the lock ups and see why its happening or just lock those type of moments to 30 fps to avoid issues. Either way a patch 1.04 would be epic. Native 4k is easily achievable as well

[@DaveDynamite1]

@@HugoStiglitz88 by any chance what were the other 2 spots that you got stuck at? And was this the only two other spots, then you could go back to 60fps and beat the rest of the game?

[@YeahBaby369]

I'm not sure the freeze at bridge concern the 60 fps mode... Playing the v 1.00 on ps4 could show the problem as well, it's probably more just a early bug fixed in the day-one patch 1.01

[@abbykickass3210]

The Last Guardian is a hidden masterpiece, I can't wait to play it on PS5.

[@flannelsykes0]

Probably the most I've ever been emotionally invested in a game. The game does have its flaws but I personally regard Trico as one of the stand out characters in video game history.

[@mattcy6591]

Same here

[@nattila7713]

I wish he listened to me... to what I asked from him.... but no.... so I hated IT. That thing. The one I WOULD KILL. ANY. DAY. EVEN. NOW.

[@realphoenix8908]

@@nattila7713 the ps2 alone is outselling the xbox , xbox 360 and xbox one combined 😂😂😂 one sony console is outselling 3 generations of xbox consoles combined 😂😂😂 competiton? 😂😂😂 xbox cant even reach 100M a single time 😂😂😂

[@realphoenix8908]

@@nattila7713 ps2 outsold the xbox 😂😂😂 ps3 outsold the 360 😂😂😂 ps4 outsold the xbox one 😂😂😂 ps5 is outselling the xbox series Xcuses 😂😂😂 4-0 EASY PIZZY 😂😂😂 your games barely get nominations 😂😂😂 your platform is irrelevant 😂😂😂 stay salty 😂😂😂 series xcuses is already getting owned 😂😂😂

[@realphoenix8908]

@@nattila7713 always taking the last place 😂😂😂😂😂😂 sony got phil specner hiding the sales 😂😂😂😂😂😂 and just like that series Xcuses got owned by sony 😂😂😂😂😂😂 sony is tired of wining 😂😂😂😂😂😂 20 years of beating xbox already 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@SlayerSeraph]

Tom is probably my favorite DF guy, they need to give him more games & projects to cover.

[@spongebelt]

John is my favorite

[@Bigdaddymittens]

Tom is great, but John really is my favorite

[@jzilla1234]

Sure... If u like a bad Jeremy Clarkson impression

[@TerryMartinART]

There was another guy a long time ago, very soft spoken English accent, had a very short haircut. Very light complexation. Really nice guy, don't recall his name.

[@tobzdaman619]

@@TerryMartinART Dave Bierton! miss him! people said he was boring which was exceptionally cruel and awful of the Internet - hope he returns to the team one day, personally

[@austintse5719]

I played it on my PS5 and 60fps and it was a great experience but there are 3 areas of the game where the screen froze. The only way to get past it was to install the update and then reinstall the game without the update to continue in 60fps. A bit annoying to do that but I'd do it again if I play it again. Please release a update Sony or a PS5 remaster.

[@dysectorza]

I'm busy replaying the disc version on my PS5 currently. Exactly which areas did the game freeze for you? I don't really want to install the patch.

[@oaedeoi]

Can you turn it to 4k and see if it still freezes.

[@nattila7713]

Yesss!! Sign a petition that you WANT to pay twice for the same game. Once for 1.03 once for 1.04!

[@realphoenix8908]

@@nattila7713 the ps2 alone is outselling the xbox , xbox 360 and xbox one combined 😂😂😂 one sony console is outselling 3 generations of xbox consoles combined 😂😂😂 competiton? 😂😂😂 xbox cant even reach 100M a single time 😂😂😂

[@realphoenix8908]

@@nattila7713 that sony is the market leader and it will stay like that 😂😂😂 the market leader gets all the privileges thats why still cant play ff7r 😂😂😂 thats exactly why you have wait years to play many old games 😂😂😂 thats exactly why your console cant sell 😂😂😂

[@joewalsh1159]

My favorite game from the last generation. This has shot to my most anticipated game to play when I finally get a PS5.

[@colonelvector]

On a technical level this is awesome. On a personal level I don't know if I could handle the emotional roller coaster of this game a 2nd time

[@BLAHBLAH1000shop]

Really hope this vid pushes Sony to release patches for this game, Uncharted 4, Bloodborne, ect.

[@KQBERR]

Hey Digital Foundy! No Man's Sky also got next gen update. I would love to see your review on that :D

[@Scimarad]

It did come with a few issues though. You can't rename ships, multitools or anything like that and any custom names for planets and systems reverts back to the original if you log out. Loading a PS4 game on the PS5 version means it won't recognise any of your custom names. Playing the PS4 version on PS5 doesn't have any of these issues though and it will stick to 60 fps.

[@emilycampbell6375]

@@Scimarad weird, i've been playing the series x version without any of those issues, is it exclusive to the ps5 version? i've heard that the ps4 and ps5 version of no man's sky are actually 2 seperate games, whereas on xbox it's just one game that takes advantage of the series x if you have the hardware, i think that's part of the reason why cyberpunk doesn't have a performance and quality mode like the xbox version

[@8BitRetroMonkey]

Naaa

[@Madyetmellow]

Should the question now be “Why aren’t games running at 60fps?”

[@Jsteeeez]

Because they rather push resolution than frame rate. Which is stupid imo. Resolution looks plenty fine at 1440p and they could use those extra resources to push 60fps. You get smoother gameplay, but you also get less latency with 60 fps. Literally going from 33.3ms to 16.6 ms. They think console gamers are dumb and they just want a pretty image since they put up with 30 fps the whole last generation.

[@DanKaschel]

@@Jsteeeez yeah, those idiots that want to sell more copies of their games.

[@yagokain4189]

Because some developers just go with 4k + ray tracing , without giving the option to players to play games with dynamic resolution and 60fps or more, watch dogs legion for example, it runs like shit, the ray tracing is bad and the graphics are average, so whats the point of 4k + RT ?

[@gleam6370]

@@Jsteeeez I’m a console player my whole life and didnt understand the 60FPS fuzz until I’ve played miles morales on the ps5. The difference is really jarring. And At times it was hard to go back to 30FPS

[@sqeaky6921]

60 fps is good but should be mandatory only for multiplayer games because graphics can be really pushed at 30 fps which can be used to make awesome looking singleplayer games especially on these new consoles.

[@HashimMehmoodAhmed]

One of the best video games ever made.. Happy to see it run in 60fps.

[@EdyStauch]

Physical copy of the game? Check! PS5? uncheck....

[@Dick_Valparaiso]

Don't feel bad. You're simply part of the majority.👌

[@pasullica]

The same on PC's side. Game to play - yes. No Nvidia or AMD new gen cards.

[@TheUnholyLeviathan]

PS5? Check! Physical copy of the game?...... dammit.

[@bern9642]

@@TheUnholyLeviathan well find one..lol

[@colhapablap]

we need official 60 fps ps5 updates for this and bloodborne

[@martindescoteaux9288]

And The last of us part 2

[@y_auc60seb20]

@@martindescoteaux9288 There are rumors of a TLOU2 PS5 edition

[@mayen67]

How the hell has sony not patched this yet! This is unacceptable.

[@SableLeaf]

Still no update for 60fps. =_=

[@Fendera1]

God of War is also 4k 60fps with the disc version on the PS5. Would be nice if you guys could take a look as well.

[@silviuamuza3902]

Yea but you miss a lot of stuff if you don't update the game, like new game plus.

[@T800CS101]

so the digital version of GoW on ps5 is 30fps? I finished the game on my ps4 pro and just booted it up once on my ps5 (with current patch) to see how it ran, and i had the feeling it ran a lot smoother than i remembered from ps4 pro.

[@9Dill]

GOW digital is also 60fps on ps5

[@TheGoncas2]

@@9Dill Only in the 1080p mode. With the unpatched version you can run at checkerboard 4K 60fps.

[@SunCityGamer]

@@9Dill but at 1080p not 4k.

[@T.O.Wallee]

They should patch all PS4 games to 60fps by now.

[@thereeven]

Just downgraded the game and got shocked to find out it really runs at 60fps on 1.00! Why in the name of all gods this game does not have an official 60fps patch os PS5? Why?? 😱

[@paulhill5846]

Is that digital version？？how to downgrade？？

[@thereeven]

@@paulhill5846 it is impossible to downgrade the digital version. If you uninstall the physical version from your internal memory and reinstall it from physical media, you'll be on stock version, which runs at 60fps on Ps5. But be aware that there are some pretty annoying bugs and even game breaking ones, like in the 2 times that happened with me when Trico remained still when it was supposed to move. Controlling Trico seems to be somewhat easier in the latest version. I had to move between newest and stock version a few times because of those bugs.

[@paulhill5846]

@@thereeven Thanks🙂

[@JellyJman]

The reason why it's locked because it doesn't run very well unlocked on the PS4 itself compared to a locked fps. Game developers lock fps all the time for performance reasons on consoles. Plus in this game they meant to put in a 30fps at launch but the code doesn't work 😂😂😂lmaoo they messed up the code on the gold version

[@awesomeiMike]

@@thereeven how do you make sure ps5 doesn’t update it automatically? I’ve disabled the updates and it still updated in rest mode.

[@sukamadik5983]

The catch is the way the story makes you feel. Good God does it make you feel.

[@noctiliogames350]

I got wreck’d.

[@Nero_PR]

Enough to make a grown up man cry.

[@noctiliogames350]

@@Nero_PR oh yes. For the record, I’m a 37-year-old man and I have no shame crying over this experience. Not a single bit.

[@AJ-xv7oh]

Yeah I cried aswell... at how bad the control system is. One of the worst ever designed. Awful game.

[@jukins6543]

For real seeing them both separately grown up with kid but unable to see each other face to face due to prejudice of each species after that epic adventure definetly made me tear up. Went and bought the collectors edition for the statue. Hopefully get a 60fps patch

[@Lurreable]

Such an atmospheric game, love its understated approach to narrative.

[@SebastianMarelli]

One of my favorite Games! Trico is an freakin adorable and an AI masterpiece

[@samurai3718]

DAMN IT even this game has a 60fps version now while Bloodborne is still rotting away in 30fps

[@EggBastion]

HAhAhaHAh! _sigh..._

[@DenisKublitsky]

At least BB is at locked 30fps on PS5 instead of constant dips to low 20s even on PS 4 Pro.

[@theindiediary5950]

@@DenisKublitsky it still has the frame skipping.

[@DenisKublitsky]

@@theindiediary5950 still, it runs so much better than on ps4 pro. I finally managed to beat the DLC without destroying my gamepad :)

[@HugoStiglitz88]

@@DenisKublitsky you're dead wrong. Bloodborne never drops framerate. It's framepacing not frame drops. It's actually because the framerate is going too high and ruining the delivery of the frames. It's not a hardware power issue, it's a coding issue so ps5 does not solve it whatsoever

[@tyrantm7]

I'm trying to be clear here. From what I understand, the process is : Insert and play ps4 disc on ps5. Do not update game. Runs at 60fps If update game, lose 60fps 💁‍♂️ Am I close?

[@bigsherpa]

Correct.

[@usernamefromhell]

The importance of physical media.

[@Lanosrep]

Sony when making the PS4 Pro: Go to all of their developers and ask them to make their past and rpesent games PS4-pro enhanced Sony when making the PS5: Asks no one to make enhancements, with only two devs actually doing it

[@pleasuretokill]

Every game this gen needs to have a 60fps option. EVERY. SINGLE. GAME. No exceptions, ever.

[@adamothman1124]

That’s the reason why PCs are better than consoles, but unfortunately I my PC has a gtx 1650. So it’s basically useless for next gen games.

[@pleasuretokill]

@@adamothman1124 Series X and PS5 have the power to offer 60fps as an option on every game. We need to push devs to make this happen. Console costs $500. PC worthy of good gaming? $1200-1500 minimum. My gaming PC has a 1080ti and my XSX outperforms it. Also...good luck finding new GPUs or CPUs right now even if you do want to pay the stupid prices they cost. New premium consoles can do 60 fps as an option. We need to hold devs feet to the fire to provide that option in every single game coming out. No exceptions!

[@emilycampbell6375]

@@pleasuretokill yup, it's so fucking sad, so many devs can't be bothered to take 10 minutes and patch their game to run at a higher resolution and framerate, fromsoft for instance, dark souls 3 on the series x runs at 900p/30fps, my mid range laptop does better than that, it sucks because the games are capable of running great, the hardware is capable of doing so, it's just up to the devs to get off their ass and put the bare minimum of effort in :/ i really hope microsoft creates some sort of incentive for devs to patch their games for the newest generation, i'm not sure exactly how it would work, but i'm sure they could figure something out

[@chop46878]

@@adamothman1124 Until like 7 or 8 years from now when Naughty Dog is putting out their swansong for the console or we get the next hyped-up open world game that is too ambitious for consoles at the time, like Cyberpunk obviously but hopefully in a much more playable state. I’m still concerned how Horizon Forbidden West will run on PS4 I feel like it will be massively downgraded visually. It’s not like Miles Morales which was running on basically the same engine as Spider Man 2018 but with RT and some lighting and visual effects improvements added, but the map was identical to PS4. The PS5/Series X have way more powerful CPUs and GPUs than what the One and PS4 had by launch standards because Jaguar wasn’t high-end when those consoles launched whereas RDNA 2 is. A lot of games especially were having trouble with the CPU in particular. By that point I expect RT to be standard in the industry and developers having much more experience with optimizing it for consoles. Plus we haven’t even seen UE5 games running on console yet just demos.

[@adamothman1124]

@@pleasuretokill if Sony and Microsoft really wanted to they would sell their $500 consoles at a price that would match high end PCs but no one would buy them. Which is the reason why they usually sell at a loss or break even. I’ve been waiting for graphics options on console games for years and looks like I’ll have to wait longer. And ur 1080ti is dated now so good luck, I’ll gladly trade with my 1650.

[@andrewmon4792]

I loved Last Guardian with all my heart. Even got the platinum -which was a pain! Thank you so much for covering this. Hopefully someone at Sony takes note and they update this underrated masterpiece!

[@nicholasdorazio10]

Wow Congratulations on a platinum!

[@greenwaveboi]

"We need an official PS5 update" Yeah okay....keep waiting on that update like the God of War update lol

[@TheUnholyLeviathan]

GoW can be played 4K/60 from the disk afaik.... so the only thing it'd be missing is RT? Which isn't a huge problem I'd think, unless it changes the game in such a drastic way that it'd be needed.

[@TheWhoniversalMan]

@@TheUnholyLeviathan New game plus and photo mode are missing, though.

[@WhirlingMusic]

@@TheWhoniversalMan Idk why you would mention photo mode as if that's crucial.

[@c0mmanderKeen]

Aged like fine wine

[@Tommy-gm7uo]

The Last Guardian is a thing of beauty. Not even close to being the biggest technical achievement of the generation but the art, sound, gameplay, minimalist approach to cinematography lends itself to being one of the most unique experiences in recent date. So glad to finally see it at its full potential!

[@jacobf.2224]

The one thing about it that still impresses me to this day on a technical level though is Trico’s feathers. I feel like it’s rare you see hair that moves as realistically as it, even now. The way wind plays across it is beautiful stuff. The only thing I’ve seen that I felt could match it was (ironically) the hair on the colossi in Shadow of The Colossus PS4.

[@agamaz5650]

@@jacobf.2224 actually you are right, reminds me of pixar renders how they said how it was a pain in the ass to animate

[@robertlawrence9000]

Can you reach out to Sony and ask them about this releasing a patch for this?

[@noctiliogames350]

First Digital Foundry intro that ever made me cry. This game wrecked me emotionally, and apparently, I haven’t recovered.

[@akalyx]

o _ O

[@sneikiusas]

Same... I just could not handle how bad it was and how much I forced myself to try and play it, then how I battled shit controls and one of the worse camera ever. I don't think I will ever try to play something so bad because of good reviews and hype

[@potato8427]

@@sneikiusas ok

[@flannelsykes0]

Same here.

[@DuckAlertBeats]

@@sneikiusasSo soulless. The game is a flawed masterpiece.

[@danielwareking]

Gotta replay this on PS5, even if it's just a locked 30fps since I have it digitally. Such an underrated game.

[@wasapdoc]

What a journey this game was.

[@PogueSquadron]

Knowing DF's affection for solid motion blur, I'm curious to see if any of you ever feel like 60fps actually makes a game look WORSE. Obviously, it makes the game play better, but do you ever feel like the 60fps change makes certain games look less realistic or cinematic? It definitely can show some of the warts in a game more than at 30fps. Just a thought! (I don't know if I've ever picked 30fps over 60fps, all things being equal)

[@diaboruim]

Altrought 60hz cap makes the game smoother, in my eyes i would prefer to play as intended, 30hz fits perfectly to the way this game is, imo

[@gabrielm.k.8094]

When will you do one on God of war at 4k60fps??? It's the same process, but the results are even better!

[@WickedRibbon]

NX Gamer deserves a shout-out on this topic. He was the first to show The Last Guardian running at 60 FPS using the disc code.

[@HrabiaKaczula]

One year later: still no patch.

[@RetroDawn]

Thanks for the info I was looking for! If they would just simply release a 1.04 patch, that would allow you to turn off the 30Hz limiter, and nothing more, that would be amazing. They probably have Bluepoint on a PS5 version, and don't want to do anything that would limit how many people buy that release.

[@Shahar_C]

More important is a much needed patch that let you disable the help prompts during the entire game.

[@ElbertBerlijn]

Its in the freakin free plus package and didnt get a nice 60 fps bump?! after Ghost is think its an absolute nessecity to enjoy the old games. 30 just wont do.

[@hugostiglitzracing866]

I actually made a vid about this after playing the whole thing. if you don't want spoilers, i showed the 3 spots you need to have the patch installed without showing what happens. once you get to the following checkpoint, you can reinstall the disc version and continue it's only 3 spots out of a 12 hour game so it's totally worth it imo

[@Solegor]

This needs more upvotes

[@abdullahali-md9sn]

I’m really happy seeing Tom covering a lot of great games lately in DF. Very good presentation.

[@reza494]

Sony really needs a good backwards compatibility team for ps5

[@retardinho5048]

Physical Discs always rule!

[@sledgedragon2677]

We really need a patch or remaster or SOMETHING! I love this game so much. It brought me back to my childhood and I felt a lot of inspiration from all the beautiful architecture. I want to play at 60fps with some upgraded controls and camera. Maybe turn down the deadzones and add a few more speeds for the character movement. Tip-Toeing to full sprint is a bit much in some sections.

[@KarimElHayawan]

Believe it or not but The Last Guardian is the game that will determine how soon I get the PS5. Good thing I have the disc too.

[@feyisthey]

Same

[@EricKesterson]

well, hardware availability might have a little bit to say about how soon you'll get the PS5. I've been trying for a month and a half.

[@KarimElHayawan]

@@EricKesterson Don't worry. For me it's more about if it's 2021 or 2022.

[@eliteshergio7375]

Unbelievable some people said backwards compatibility was bad years ago

[@souljastation5463]

Honestly, past implementations of backward compatibility (of the kind that didn't make the original games run better, only inevitably look worse on LCD screens) were kind of meh, sure not bad but not really necessary either.

[@tm0054]

Well things were different back in the day. Backwards compatibility used to just mean that the new system would run the old systems' games exactly how they ran on the old systems. It wasn't until the XBox 360 that I came across a game that was enhanced by playing it on newer hardware (Halo 2 was upgraded to 720p). So while today there is an advantage to playing games on newer hardware (better resolution, fps, loading times etc) in the past you could just play them exactly the same on the older system- backwards compatibility was more about the convenience of not needing to keep the old hardware lying around.

[@emilycampbell6375]

um what? when has anyone said that?

[@glenmcl]

@@emilycampbell6375 every Sony Fanboy said it when Xbox did back compat

[@emilycampbell6375]

@@glenmcl i haven't seen that, but if that happens that's dumb as fuck lol, backwards compatibility is good for everyone, especially consumers

[@RaffaeleColantuonoRafy]

So sad you cannot play in this way on digital copies... this game is also available on PS Collection Plus, all we need is a little patch with a checkbox "Unlock FPS Cap"

[@peite7878]

Maybe you can by using a certain FTP PSN downloader shareware. That being said, it's a HUGE disappointment to see all these great games in the PS Collection Plus not having any 60fps cap: Uncharted 4 Detroit: Become Human Bloodborne TLG Fallout 4 Persona 5 Batman: Arkham Knight God of War (at least 1080p 60fps works now so it's ok for me)

[@RaffaeleColantuonoRafy]

@@peite7878 You are absolutely right, would be awesome to have at least the exclusives at 60FPS...

[@superKapitan82]

Played complete game with True motion on on 4k with Ps4 Pro. No regrets.

[@ngv001]

This is exactly the same for God of War for those not aware.

[@SongOfStorms11]

I’ve actually been doing a playthrough at 60fps on PS5. I ran into an unskippable bug last night that required me to download the patch to get past. I don’t know if it is a guaranteed bug but I figured I’d share for those interested. During the sequence that was shown in the E3 demo where you have to jump from a breaking platform and grab Trico’s tail in slow motion, my game would consistently freeze when it hit slow mo. I had to update and get past that to continue on in 60fps.

[@ricepony33]

There is another video online about this, basically you have to get the patch, get past it, save... uninstall, reinstall and load save to move on. Too much hassle for me personally. It apparently happens a few times.

[@Andrew-vc1zo]

Amazing game! Wish more unique video games like this were made more often. I really hope the Gen Design team is still making a new game! Thanks for putting this game out there it definitely shouldn't be forgotten as Sony has done with it!

[@Spermofdog]

The most surprising thing is that this game actually released. I remember there were a lot of games announced for PS3 and many of them were silently cancelled.

[@benjaminmealer2618]

With ps plus and ps5 you get this for free but you are saying that version does not run at 60 fps? Seems like a strange decision....

[@singlelegstretch]

The Closest thing to a work of art, i have ever experienced on a games console.

[@GURken]

imagine 20 years from now somebody will found the original code for ps3 where the game runs smoothly at 60 fps

[@float32]

@@boring123 why?

[@danielwilliams3161]

@@boring123 stop chatting wass.

[@danielwilliams3161]

@@float32 dont listen mate, hes bullocks

[@PsimanUK]

Thanks for making this video. I wanted to play this game at launch but held off buying it as reviews said it had performance issues. As soon as I started watching this I went to CeX online and bought a copy, as I think prices might rise once people realise it runs pretty flawlessly on PS5. Even if the price doesn't go up, I don't think I'll regret pay £12 for it.

[@sugonmaballs]

Just played this on my PS5 since it was part of the PS+ collection and I loved it even at 30 FPS. If only Sony could force BC to play games at 60 FPS somehow, since it has more than enough power to do so for any PS4 game.

[@Sleepysunsetz]

I literally just started the last guardian on ps5 last night and was wondering if DF had a video about it yet dude this is perfect

[@ihatepie2630]

FYI you CANNOT complete the game on the disk version on 1.00 - the game hard locks in several locations and requires the patch to get past them. Found out the hard way when playing it on PS5 about 2 months ago. DF did not mention this in the video as they did not hit the first hard lock section.

[@saurabhpathakYT]

If this game ever comes to PC I would literally be in tears of joy.

[@uchennaobi5985]

No.

[@marwanashraf1394]

Can we Not get this game ported to pc ? uhm, Please ?

[@andyspoo2]

This is 2 years old now. Did they ever combine the patches?

[@phant0mdummy]

No.

[@SonsOfLibertyV]

physical world >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> digital world

[@franbsb]

I kept the disc of this game since the launch waiting for play in the ps5. My top 5 game of this generation. Underrated Fumitos gem.

[@philledzone]

So it's been two years... have they finally officially patched it?

[@phant0mdummy]

No.

[@peterGchaves]

Almost 3 years now... And no.

[@darrenscott6982]

Sony does not care because no $$ in it.

[@gobbzgaming8812]

So I've played it as you've described. Unfortunately, the video freezes at nearly every slow-mo epic moment throughout the game. The first instance is the breaking bridge section where you must trust Trico to catch you in mid-air (E3 2015 reveal). The first jump is successful, but the second jump (as everything is crumbling) freezes every time using no update at 60fps. The audio continues but the video freezes and the only way to get out of the game is to close the game. The only way to get passed this issue I found was to allow the 1.03 update just to get past through the slow-mo scene. Once passed that, uninstall the game, then take the PS5 offline, reinstall the game with the disc and then you can continue playing the game at 60fps, at least until you get to the next slow-mo epic moment. Then you have to repeat these steps to get past the video freeze again. Can anyone else confirm this, or is it perhaps just my brand new disc version? PS - I've completed this game 40 times and have the platinum. It is my favorite game of all-time. Also, excellent job on this video! OOOpps! I found several comments below describing the same thing. Thanks to those comments, I'm now confident it is nothing wrong with my disc. :)

[@bogie170]

Why don't Sony just patch the frame rate cap on the digital version?

[@sageninja7260]

It’s up to the developers, not Sony 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@RE4-Station]

This game is so amazing!

[@tonwisniewski]

I want Driveclub with a 4K 60FPS patch. I can dream!

[@nickmotsarsky4382]

I'd love that too, plus a remastered Resistance collection and Motorstorm Pacific Rift.

[@krzysztof6591]

New GT will feature 60FPS mode, so why do you need an oldie?

[@Crimsongz]

Sadly I think it will only be possible through emulation on pc in the future

[@yusofplayed]

Still waiting for them to unlock this. It's insane how little these companies listen to their customers.

[@zzr400cc]

Did they patch this?

[@JellyJman]

No lol

[@cachorroquente17]

No

[@cachorroquente17]

But you can buy the disk for 5-10$ ...

[@zzr400cc]

@@cachorroquente17 got a collectors of this one lol still have not played it yet lol

[@DarthZackTheFirstI]

1:23 thats quite a sad animal. reflects the development well :*D

[@PixelBaller]

You're only 2 months late. NX Gamer had his video of all of this a couple days after PS5 launch.

[@LDJ89]

So you do not need the disc version to play these Version 1.00 games on your PS5 (I have tested God of War & AC Unity) You just need your PS4 and PSX Download Helper. -Set your PS4 Network up to Proxy through PSX Download Helper. -Go to Library on PS4 and Select the game you want to download Version 1.00 and Start as you normally would - Psx will need restarting every 10gb but this does not reset the download progress. -Once finished downloading move the game to your PS5 with either an External Storage device or the Data Transfer in Settings **Do not let the update finish, When you launch just pause it and choose play game without updating**

[@Messier_-82]

I heard that the game running at 60 fps tends to crash in certain moments. You haven't mention that

[@fernandoflynn]

I know for a fact it freezes during the E3 demo section as you jump for Trico's tail. It happened to me & I just put the update on to get past it.

[@alesssi]

That's probably why they lowed to 30 fps. The console can't handle it.

[@backspacer92]

He hasn't played that far.

[@Aroden0x]

@@alesssi No it's the way the engine is made to handle physics with framerate. It happens only 3 times in the same spot in 60fps throughout the game.

[@glenmcl]

DF won't mention PS5 flaws

[@JP-yt5st]

Great find Tom! We need official support here!

[@BIGNOIDS]

Have they released a patch to unlock the digital version yet?

[@bookshelffury]

pwnt

[@bigtnaples]

Can’t wait for the God of War video. Playing it now and it’s so great at 60fps and CB4K. But I do miss all of the improvements from the patch, and also had to start from scratch because my patched save 70% though isn’t compatable. Would be amazing to have the best of both worlds. Also some haptics and adaptive trigger support. Hopefully these videos y’all make will bring more attention to this. Both GoW and TLOUPII were said to have Dualsense support at launch. Maybe that was a hint at future patches?

[@arisart22]

This would definitely be worth a replay.

[@theghostfacethriller9375]

I’m halfway through it on PS4, will use the same account once my PS5 arrives. Will my save be there when I load into game on PS5? Or do I have to start again

[@the0nlytrueprophet942]

@@theghostfacethriller9375 The save will carry over if you use the same account i bet

[@sukiru4055]

@@theghostfacethriller9375 you need to uplassert the save data to the cloud (ps plus) i think

[@theghostfacethriller9375]

@@sukiru4055 don’t have ps plus

[@vinzig5036]

@@theghostfacethriller9375 if you don't have plus you can transfer data using a wired connection or over WiFi. When you start up your ps5 it will walk you through data transfer. I would personally recommend you getting plus for a month just to make the process easier and you'll also get a free ps5 game to get you started.

[@deathofcows]

I recently played through this on PS5 and it was stunning and moving. I even bought an original disc for the 60fps but unfortunately the PS5 keeps auto-updating, and also I got to a hard freeze bug in the OG version which prevented me progressing. So instead I played the game using updated version and my TV motion smoothing (usually much maligned for making film look like cheap TV). This faked a 60fps and looked fantastic, with minimal/negligible visual artifacts. There IS some input lag, but for TLG it doesn't really register too much as the game's inherent (intentional) clumsiness and animations buffer it.

[@deathofcows]

My question to DF (if possible?!) is why not use motion smoothing for more games in which input latency isn't too problematic? And will we reach a point where there is so little processing time that Anything can be made effectively 60fps? - like a framerate upscaling?

[@daviddevilela]

I wish they realese a patch to unlock the fps for de digital version. Is one of my favorite games, that soundtrack is so amazing.

[@deepspeed7862]

Apparently there is a way to get version 1.0 using the digital version. Saw it on neogaf

[@daviddevilela]

@@deepspeed7862 how?

[@DjDizzy216]

The only way to keep unpatched v1.00 from a PS4 disc is to keep your PS5 offline all the time. If you pause the auto-download, then it'll just unpause and update when you're not looking.

[@aFLYER1980]

So.... the physical is the way to go. So much for digital 😅

[@kyhfin]

I own a PS5 coming from PC and was surpised how many games are still at 30 fps. I'm waiting for this game to receive an update next to Horizon Zero Dawn, God of War, Uncharted 4 and Lost Legacy. Hopefully most of these will get an update, but otherwise there are still enough great games to play in the mean time, but wouldn't want to miss out of those probably. Let's see what the future brings.

[@pirony]

Time to get it physical then, even when I have it on digital, thank you for the heads up and the beautiful work, as always.

[@charaznable8072]

I doubt we'll see any patch at all since the studio is closed and merged with another.

[@SyamDaRos-EndoManno]

This trick works with other games, like Assassin's Creed Unity

[@RetroDawn]

You didn't watch the video, eh?

[@SyamDaRos-EndoManno]

@@RetroDawn I watched it because I was speaking about a trick, the one explained in the video. But I didn't watched it entirely, because I wish to play this game in future, and I didn't want to spoil it myself. If they talked about Assassin's Creed Unity I'm sorry, I didn't know

[@RetroDawn]

@@SyamDaRos-EndoManno Oh, makes sense. Yeah, they mentioned how this can be done with other games and AC Unity specifically and had a video clip comparing AC Unity performance between XO/XOX/XSX.

[@SyamDaRos-EndoManno]

@@RetroDawn thanks!

[@gdoumit]

It's crazy how many games I never even wanted to play because I generally don't enjoy 30fps. Some titles make it more tolerable, like Spider-Man, but I mostly hate it on other titles. I love how the new consoles are bringing 60fps to the front. I'm really happy with my PS5 and I'm generally a PC gamer.

[@ThinkAndGoHam]

I'm a console fan boy, i love the playstation brand history and everything but 60fps should be the standard by now WTF, In pc gaming 60hz has been considerd old tech for a long time now.

[@RitaMaSTeR]

I agreed with you but if you pay below any low/mid range pc, you cant ask for good graphics and good performance its very hard even when optimizing only for one platform to get both, always in all game engines with all the teams in the industry. Again, dont get me wrong, I would like to have all the games on consoles even at 1080p at 60 with medium graphics that 4k bullshit and LOD popin no phisics, bad sound at all of that.

[@danny.4506]

My tv does 120hz 4k

[@user-wr5we2xg6h]

@@RitaMaSTeR midrange pc with 3060 is much fast than ps5 thou, since 3060 is literally marketed as midrange, even mobile 3060 which will be much weaker than desktop 3060 is 1.3x faster than ps5 according to nvidia in CES

[@RitaMaSTeR]

@@user-wr5we2xg6h yeah so any console when launch is low spec gaming pc lol, that, with the time only gets better instead any pc that only gets worst

[@RitaMaSTeR]

@@danny.4506 the tv always got better "stats" than consoles, and much tvs that say HDR does not have the numbers to apply HDR correcly, and even the games does not implement HDR the proper way

[@coffincolors_]

Hey everyone. HUGE NEWS: YOU DON'T NEED A PHYSICAL COPY, YOU DO NEED A PS4, STEPS BELOW: Using the PSXDownloadHelper (Google it) application for Windows I was able to use the PS4's proxy server settings to download the 1.0 version the game. I then transferred this to an external storage (network PS4 to PS5 transfer will work too), and plugged into my PS5. Works like a charm- just make sure to turn off PS5 software updates or disconnect from the internet. I can confirm the game is running at 60 FPS. Side note: PS4 will not allow you to transfer the game to external storage until it is completely downloaded, that means ignoring the game when it first starts and keeping an eye on the download progress to make sure you get past the "data needed to play" stage. If the transfer to external storage or network transfer does not allow you to proceed yet, restart your PS4 (and maybe disconnect from the internet to be safe) to clear the "Downloading status" from the game. Be sure to cancel and delete any attempts the PS4 makes to download the latest version of the game. This trick should work for all other PS4 PSN titles as well.