The Last of Us Episode 9 FINALE REACTION! | 1x9 'Look for the Light'

[@SpartanandPudgey]

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[@ypey1]

Guys guys, last episode he remembers everything all of a sudden! 😂

[@dracccc]

You guys should react to the game part 2 trailer

[@GopherBaroque61]

I'm not entirely sure there would have been enough time for Anna's blood to get through Ellie's umbilical cord to Ellie before Anna cut the cord. However, Anna cut Ellie's cord with the knife that she killed the infected. She couldn't sterilize the knife, so maybe, the cordyceps infection had a shorter distance to travel at the time the cord was cut and maybe that (and mixed with some amniotic fluid) was how Ellie became immune.

[@r_p_m7330]

If you want to feed that same Giraffe take a Trip to the Calgary Zoo in Canada.

[@ScorpioSW]

@@r_p_m7330 I saw them when my family and I visited Calgary about 5 years ago, so cool! When I watched it I couldn't tell if the giraffe was CGI or not lol. I was hoping it wasn't and am glad to hear it was a real one from the zoo

[@toukie]

Pudgey: It's Ellie! Technically, you aren't wrong. Ashley Johnson played Ellie in the game. The fact that they got her to give birth to Ellie in the show is so poetic and I think it's amazing. She KILLED it

[@lilly25642]

I can only think of that spiderman meme where two spidermen are pointing at each other. lol

[@annjenkins2677]

She sure did !!

[@kbaylor123]

The fact that she looked so much like Bella was perfect too!

[@markcruz359]

@@kbaylor123 maybe thats why Bella was considered for he role

[@Sannoz]

​@@kbaylor123 Or Bella looks alot like original Ellie? 🤔

[@PezQ84]

"it wasn' the time that did it" - boy, the way Pedro delivers that line gets me. The slight crack in his voice at the end sells it so perfectly.

[@ПережареныйПельмень-е2з]

For this moment alone, you can forgive all the irregularities of the show.

[@laurenbendik2006]

Hope he wins that emmy

[@stwartic4296]

What people don't understand is that Joel's rampage at the hospital had nothing to do with what happened between him and Marlene. Marlene and the Fireflies at this point were just unfortunately on Joel's way. If you remember Bill's letter to Joel. It said "We do everything to protect the people we love and God help the motherf***ers who get in our way". This is something that is in Joel's nature. Shaped by trauma of losing his daughter. By this time in this episode also, Joel and Ellie have chosen each other. When Ellie says she'll follow Joel anywhere after they are done with the mission. Joel also tells Ellie that she saved him and gave his life purpose again. Joel has officially taken the role of Ellie's father. It's unsaid and yet official. And then Joel is put in that situation with Marlene and the Fireflies. And they basically tell him they are going to kill his daughter... That's all he hears. Nothing else matters. He tells Marlene "You don't understand" What this means is that Ellie saved Joel. She gave him a purpose to live for. Like Bill told Frank. "I was never scared before you." Joel is hit with a choice between possibly saving the world and losing another daughter. And it is the easiest choice of his life. He just can't lose another daughter again. And even when he lies to Ellie about what happened at the hospital to basically protect her. It was a decision any parent would easily make without hesitation. You can see that Joel has decided he can't lose another daughter. Even if he has to protect Ellie from herself. Something parents do all the time. Also, it's funny how ppl are saying Joel should let Ellie make a choice between life and death. My question to these ppl is... Would you let your 14, 15, 16 even 17 year old daughter make such a decision? The vaccine is not even a sure bet. It's just a possibility. It's very hypocritical because we all know we would make the same decision as Joel without hesitation if it were a our loved ones. It's the only choice.

[@blinkachu5275]

On top of that, imagine if they keep Ellie alive, she gets kids who are also immune, they can run further tests etc. The Fireflies were 100% rushing into things, they are clearly only doing it for themselves rather than provide a cure for the whole world. They just want a position of power against Fedra "we have the cure, you don't"

[@stwartic4296]

@@blinkachu5275 Exactly. It's not like the Fireflies had Elle's best interest at heart. I honestly don't understand why some ppl can't comprehend this.

[@brooklynnewyork23]

It's the wrong choice, but it feels right. To save Ellie he indiscriminately murders x amount of sons and daughters of others. When you say it like that it's very simple and plain. The nuance I feel is most people would watch the world burn to save their own loved ones, and that number is probably exponentially higher to protect their child. Spefically in Joels case - this is his only purpose in life. BUT with all of that being said it doesn't make it right or noble at all.

[@clarkmichaels822]

I think that's the point of the dilemma: we would all make the same choice as Joel and it's still the wrong choice. He's still a bad guy doing a bad thing. He lies to Ellie because he knows he went explicitely against her wishes and that if she ever finds out she'll hate him for it. It's easy to say that he's protecting her from herself because she's too young but she's been consistent about saving the world from the very beginning. Her losses shaped her views. And she's able to think beyond herself: if she can save others from what happened to Riley and Tess and Sam (and her mom) then she will sacrifice herself. Joel can't do that. He can't leave his own needs and wants. He thinks that because he loves Ellie he's allowed to make choices for her. That his love for her makes everything he does valid and just. And his love for her is somewhat toxic. When they talk about his suicide and how time heals all wounds, he says 'it wasn't time that did it', that's a huge burden to put on a 14-year-old. The only reason he has a purpose in life is her? What kind of responsibility is that to give to a child? But that's alright in your eyes, but she can't decide whether or not she wants to die? Then after the hospital when he leads her back to Jackson he says 'there you go' like that's what's she wanted. No, that's what HE wanted. HE wanted to go back to Jackson with her and forget all about it. SHE wanted to cure the world. But Joel didn't care because he wouldn't let her die because of his own selfish needs. Again, it's a choice we would all make. That all parents would make. But it was a bad, toxic choice and he's a bad man for doing it. Final point: imagine you're not Joel but you are a father in that world. Now pretend like you hear how there could have been a vaccine for everyone including your children but some other guy took that from you. Is that something a good person would do?

[@superronjon]

At the end of the day, kid or not, it's her life, her immunity, and her choice to make. Joel didn't have the right to take that away from her. But that's exactly what makes the ending so beautiful and complex, that he made the wrong choice, but it's the same choice we would all make in that situation.

[@markwang77]

Love how Troy Baker mentioned on the HBO podcast that Pedro was able to play ‘empty’ during that hospital shootout scene. Joel’s character was completely dissociated at that moment (no anger, fear or emotional connection) and no longer saw human beings in front of him, just disposable obstacles to his goal

[@Izanagi-Okami]

It helps that he has a military background, as soldiers often have to dissociate and think of the enemy as not human.

[@HuntingViolets]

Just like in a video game.

[@Strazman]

@@Izanagi-Okami he doesn't have a military background. If you're referring to the bumper sticker on Tommy's truck, that's Tommy who was a Desert Storm vet. Joel also mentions it in episode 4.

[@justinbaileyASU]

I don't get how pretty much every single reactor seems to forget what happened to Ellie in the last episode and how traumatized she was. That's why she's closed off/dissociating.

[@Belladonna313]

I know I’ve been thinking the same 😂 has everyone forgotten that she was preyed upon last episode.

[@alexr7595]

The show jumps forwards few months, so there is a bit of a disconnect. The game actually does a very clever little thing in that regard - they open with Ellie seeing a painting of a deer on the wall. With just that one shot, we understand that it triggered some painful memories, and that’s why she’s so distant, even months after the events of the Winter chapter.

[@stwartic4296]

This has actually made me stop watching reactions for the season's finale because almost every reactor seems to have suddenly forgotten about the David encounter. Also, it's funny how ppl are saying Joel should let Ellie make a choice between life and death. My question to these ppl is... Would you let your 14, 15, 16 even 17 year old daughter make such a decision? The vaccine is not even a sure bet. It's just a possibility. It's very hypocritical because we all know we would make the same decision as Joel without hesitation if it were a our loved ones. It's the only choice.

[@jimboG100]

​@@alexr7595 It jumped like 1-2 months max

[@annjenkins2677]

​@@stwartic4296 I couldn't agree with you more. Very well said.

[@rx7dude2006]

Remember Ellie had no idea she would die, she thought it would be just a blood draw.Why else would she tell Joel "I would follow you anywhere", after the procedure was done.Also Marlene was never going to give Ellie a choice, even if Ellie refused they would still go ahead with the surgery.That was not a cool thing to do.

[@irrelevant_noob]

Well it wouldn't have been different than how in the 1st episode the social worker told the girl she's going to enjoy a wonderful future soon... Like so many things in the story, it's ambiguous, up to the viewer to make of it what they find most fitting.

[@agitatedmongoose]

She was feeling down and quiet because she was still traumatized by her almost rape and imprisonment and having to murder someone from the last episode. No matter how much time went by. She got the reality of what she always wanted by being more like Joel and it is now only hitting her what that is.

[@Jennifer_Layne]

Spartan put it beautifully when he said “if you’ve got one thing in a world of dark to keep you going, and to sacrifice that when you’ve just found it”. I am a mother, and my son just turned 14, which is Ellie’s age in the game, and if I had the choice to keep him safe in a little community or sacrifice him for a cure that “may” work. Sorry about your bad luck but I chose to keep him. I am sad Joel lied but sometimes a parent has to lie to keep their child safe. I can’t see Joel as the villain, only a father. Also, Ellie was under the assumption her blood was the cure, not her brain. She was only 14 and considering Joel has been the only parental figure she’s ever had he should be the one deciding. Marlene didn’t raise Ellie, in episode 1 Ellie had no idea who the hell Marlene was or that she was her mom’s lifelong friend. Also Marlene handed Ellie over first to Fedra to raise, and then to Joel, to protect and keep her safe, so he is technically now her father, it’s his decision. Plus every decent parent would burn the entire world to the ground before they would allow someone to kill their kid even if it was to save the world. Joel did the right thing in my opinion.

[@clarkmichaels822]

Pretend you're not Joel and your son lives in a world with Infected. Now pretend you hear how Joel took away a shot at a vaccine for your son so you and him will have to live your entire life afraid of the infected. Now imagine your son gets bit and turns years later. Are you still so forgiving then?

[@dipsydoodle2728]

I’m not a parent but I have people in my life I love and no way am I sacrificing them for a MIGHT BE and know what’s scary other than the fact that most people still don’t get it was only a chance at a vaccine not a cure but that Marlene had to know they were going to kill her before they even left she was in contact with them and it’s a neurosurgeon there waiting for them

[@raianthony8492]

Agree! Also, Ellie tells Joel “And when we’re done, we’ll go wherever you want”. So she intended to live after she helped/did her part.

[@superronjon]

"Joel did the right thing in my opinion." - I think what makes the ending so beautiful and complex is that Joel didn't do the right thing, but it's the same thing we would all do for our kids anyways. It's the only real option he had, even though it's wrong. "so he is technically now her father, it’s his decision" - It isn't his decision though, it is her decision at the end of the day. Even if she did know that it was her brain and not her blood, she would still choose to do it, which is why Joel doesn't let her have the choice either. Because he knows what she would choose and he selfishly doesn't want her to make that choice. THAT is where Joel is in the wrong in my opinion. I would save her from that surgery 10/10 times but she still has the right to know and to choose, even after what Joel's done to stop it. Marlene gave him the option to in the garage. To find another way with Ellie's consent. But he chose the selfish route one final time and killed her and lied about it all, which is where he goes from justfied to selfish. But the beauty of the ending is that it's the same choice I, and everyone else would make for the sake of our kids, but it isn't the right thing to do.

[@abhijeetashtikar]

I understand what you mean. I have 11 year old. I would do the same specially if they are about to kill him without even asking him! Here's my take on the situation - Ellie was looking forward to go anywhere Joel goes & live happily. She is clearly under impression that she doesn't have to die for this. Would she decide to sacrifice herself after knowing? Maybe yes. But Marlene didn't allow it to happen. Had Marlene & more specifically the Doctor given Ellie a chance to decide, allowed her & Joel to process what's gonna happen & given them time to say Goodbye, it could be avoided. I would blame Joel only if he kills everyone even after knowing Ellie's willing to die. Not before that. Joel's actions are a direct result of Marlene's decision to hurry everything without giving Ellie a choice. They waited for 20 years, what's another few months! The only thing I don't like on Joel's part is that he lied to her. IMO he should have been upfront about why he did it. Ellie might have disagreed with his actions but she definitely would have understood his motives (selfless/selfish love for his daughter) better. I would be curious to know how Ellie would react when/if she finds out what happened. Wil she be angry at Joel - for killing those people or only for lying to her?

[@xajaso]

When I watched this episode all I could hear were Oberyn's words to Tyrion: "...and what about what I want?" "Everything I want is RIGHT HERE."

[@catenystrom6506]

Losing another daughter would be like dying to Joel. They gave him a daughter, then expected him to just let her die? With NO goodbye or anything? NOPE NOPE NOPE. And we don't even know if the cure would've worked. He lied because if he'd told the truth, Ellie would go back and die for a cure, and again, Joel couldn't give her up. WHAT A STORY!!

[@Sullyman1212]

Spartans Cheeky grin when Pudgy keeps saying “it’s Ellie” lol 😂

[@Madagon367]

He's gloating big time. Good for him. I mean usually in their reactions he's not really splitting the atom to put it politely. Lol.

[@markcruz359]

Its one of the only parts where he seems to recall or remember something but the scene doesn't even exist in the game

[@jamesmeechan6983]

​@@markcruz359he might have played the dlc Ellie's mother he referenced in a letter that you can read in the last of us dlc

[@HuntingViolets]

Although she wasn't totally wrong there.

[@blinkspacestudio8892]

The mom is actually the real actor who played Ellie in the game. So cool that they did that.

[@bsvlogs3753]

It’s crazy how much they look alike. And surprising because people were so against Bella’s casting at first

[@dreero_]

Probably the greatest morally ambiguous story ever told. Pudgey also picked up on Ellie's feelings almost perfectly. Ashley Johnson (Ellie voice actress) has stated that Ellie knows Joel is lying and just chose to believe him at that moment.

[@TTehKidd]

Anna = Ellie from the game! There was a look on Spartans face... he knew he recognized that voice, he REMEMBERS THINGS

[@BoredOnlineBoardOffline]

In the official podcast the game designer talked about the response TLoU video game play testers had to the ending. He said out of the non-parent play testers the split was about 50/50 on whether or not Joel did the right thing. But then play testers who were parents agreed with Joel’s decision 100% of the time.

[@shannonbutler-williams7261]

I'm not a parent and I'm team save the world. My SO has a son and he was immediately team "kill everyone to save Ellie".

[@RayD70]

Dark thought: we didn't see the infection growing in Anna. Her wound was fresh. What if Ellie was "immune" because Anna was? And Marlene killed her not knowing she'd survive?

[@SpartanandPudgey]

I had this thought exactly..... but I feel like they made her look a little worse too

[@miraakprinceofapocrypha7998]

I think you should replay the game with Pudgey. Personally i would watch your video but i think it would be a better experience for both of you. Great series and great videos as always!

[@vjc25]

Yes I second this statement!

[@changingmind2522]

I third this statement. It would just hit harder replaying it all.

[@lilly25642]

I would actually love to see them both playing on the channel if possible! Don't know if they would upload their reaction though since their channel is mostly reaction to shows/videos.

[@SohiHien]

Joel is chatty because he is trying to keep Ellie engaged because she is closed off and still dissociating from the trauma with David. He notices she is having a bad day "you seem more quiet today" so he is trying to snap her out of it. Might not be the best way to do it but he doesn't know what else to do.

[@stevesaturnation]

One extra comment: When listened to Spartan @35:45 Pudgey asks him what he would do and I agree with him. One thing he didn’t mention verbally but still plays a factor in his feelings on that hypothetical question. Yes, Ellie may be willing but One, she’s still a child despite the world she lives in requiring an accelerated maturation to successfully survive and that’s a huge decision for a child. Two, there’s a low to zero chance of survival after surgery. In fact it didn’t seem any of this was explained to her before hand due to the bewildered state she has when recalling that the last thing she remembered was “I was with the fireflies and then…” That’s it, no explanation from the fireflies on what’s coming probably just being discretely drugged and then off to the brain scrambler she goes. On top of and maybe most important to her decision is who is this doctor, a foot doctor or dermatologist? His expertise with the brain or fungi may be academic at best and very likely less than that. The idea that he could make this work without a diverse group of experts around to help is a 19th century moonshot at best. Nah, fuk em all, I’m all in with him going full Joel Wick on these motherphukers.😁 PS edit: I wrote this before I heard Spartan say one doctor at the end of the review. Exactly, one doctor just ain’t gonna cut it when you love someone.

[@GeekFurious]

Woah. Spartan has human emotions!

[@ameliacraiig4193]

Found you guys when searching for The Last of Us reactions. Really enjoyed them. Thank you!

[@quiteliterallycrazy]

I don’t get why some reactors “forget” why ellie was more quiet especially after what happened last ep but also when people talk more about how Joel must feel seeing her like this but not how ellie feels (not trying to be rude btw )

[@UltimaTheSeraph]

Because shows and movies tend to dismiss trauma, especially after time jump. So people who haven't experienced trauma or don't know how trauma works would also just dismiss it.

[@quiteliterallycrazy]

@@UltimaTheSeraph true but with both pt1 & pt2 of tlou, ellie’s trauma is realistic and is portrayed well (and now also in the show) but some ppl dismiss that bc they feel more sorry for characters like joel or tommy lmao

[@UltimaTheSeraph]

@@quiteliterallycrazy to be fair, Joel and Tommy also experienced trauma. That's what I like about TLoU franchise, they built the story with understanding of human psychology and emotions, they understood actions and consequences and tie them all in together.

[@quiteliterallycrazy]

@@UltimaTheSeraph no I’m not saying they didn’t suffer and that they don’t have trauma and you’re right with what tlou is about but I’m specifically talking abt people/ gamers who dismissed Ellie’s trauma and why she didn’t want to go find _ (trying not to spoil) just bc of what of tommy said to her and how he felt and now in this case how Joel feels seeing her be less outspoken.

[@UltimaTheSeraph]

@@quiteliterallycrazy well, I suppose if they side with Tommy and not with Ellie about that thing, they really didn't learn what the story is about...I would say Ellie is actually more mature than Tommy, even in Part I. Tommy is pretty selfish, imo.

[@catenystrom6506]

This and the interrogation scene proved why so many people feared Joel in the QZ

[@mrmiller2503]

You two are two of the best reactors on KZbin. Thanks for a great series 😊

[@G1Transformed]

@Spartan & Pudgey, 11:49 Did Pudgey ever watch you play the game Spartan? If so, that would explain why she thought Ashley Johnson, the actress playing Anna, was Ellie--Ashley Johnson IS Ellie, lol, she's the video game version of Ellie, playing her character's mother. I have to agree with Pudgey though, she does look like Ellie (Bella), they share some familiar facial features. 12:28 Marlene told Ellie way back in episode one that it was her who put Ellie in the FEDRA orphanage. Ellie then asked Marlene if she was her mother and to that Marlene asked her, "do I look like your mother?" I don't recall if it was explicitly stated, but it was certainly implied that Marlene knew Ellie's mother. I know the game states this, but I can't recall if this series did prior to this episode... 13:24 Ellie and Riley were childhood friends in the same way, well, sort of, Anna and Marlene were. 13:44 I imagine every infected feels themselves slipping--Tess did! We know the symptoms and the infection timetable thanks to the poster on the wall in the QZ hospital. Bites to the leg and foot take 12 to 24 hours for full Cordyceps infection. At this moment, Anna isn't exhibiting any symptoms: slurred speech, coughing, muscle spasms or mood change. She's still herself, for now, but the striations on her leg are growing size, which indicates the infection is ramping up. Anna doesn't want to change or suffer. She knows what's coming, and she just wants it over, as there is no cure for what's coming ='( 15:51 The end of the journey? Survivor's guilt? 19:19 She's feeling guilty. Everyone she's cared about and loved died, they all helped in some fashion to get her to this point, and she feels obligated to see things through. This is interesting because the Ellie we saw at the start of episode three was quick to tell Joel that Tess' death wasn't her fault, but the Ellie we see now blames herself for Tess' death. The weight of the journey is heaving and its coming down hard, she knows St. Mary's is in reach and the closer she gets the more she closes off--Joel pointed out at the start that Ellie only recently started acting like this. When she left Silver Lake, which was winter, she, at some point, returned to her normal self and we're in spring now judging from the weather and their long sleeved shirts. 24:20 Yup! Marlene is talking about Ellie like she's cargo, Firefly property. History shows when you think of people as cargo/property you can do some wicket things to them because you don't think of them as human. Anna gave Ellie to Marlene, so Marlene likely feels like she has a right to do what's happen as she's Anna's chosen guardian...though Marlene surrendered that responsibility to FEDRA 14 years ago. Joel, being the interim guardian, disagrees with all this for obvious reason, but also because vital information, that Ellie will absolutely die, was kept from her. Marlene made Ellie believe that they'd draw blood and run some tests, so much so, this what Ellie kept repeating as they traveled across the country. Ellie thought the whole process would take a couple of days or maybe a few months, but she had no idea that surgery would be needed or that her skull would be cracked open so that they could split her brain in half and take the Cordyceps roosting at the center. Ellie is too young to consent to such a procedure, and I doubt you'd find a doctor willing to perform such surgery on a person with something that wasn't even guaranteed. Marlene even states that their doctor "thinks" he can replicate what's going on in Ellie's body and give it to others. He doesn't really know if he can. Still, they didn't bother telling Ellie all this? Why? Where they afraid that she'd tell them to go to hell? We'll never know since they didn't ask her, but the fact that they didn't should tell you something. The Fireflies future rested on Ellie--they've been fighting FEDRA for 20 years and have made no ground. Ellie is the game changer they've been looking for, and Marlene can't give up this opportunity! 27:08 More importantly, this a Joel that actually has a chance to save his daughter from a group of soldiers given the order to kill her. This is Joel's chance to stop the worst day of his life and his daughter's life happening a second time. 27:59 "You are the one person that I didn't want to be indebted to." -Marlene She knew what she was doing when she hired Joel. Raider Joel was a savage and many knew his story. Remember Robert from episode one? He didn't want Joel coming for him, and because his men already beat Tess he was in quite the pickle. If he killed Tess, he knew Joel was going to do worse to him, but if he let her go, he knew Joel was going to do worse to him, lol. Now you know why he was shook in that scene. Joel kept all who were with him safe for many years until they got to Boston, and even then while smuggling goods, no one that knew better messed with him. 29:33 And there it is! Joel did what he did for a number of things, but this is the one that put him over the edge. He was uneasy when he heard about surgery, but once he learned that she didn't know about it and that she was going to die, that was it. 29:42 Ellie might have agreed, but we don't know for sure. She spoke of her dreams after all this. She was under the assumption that she'd live. Still, had they told her the truth, she still might have gone through with it. Not the Ellie at the start of the journey, but the one we see at the end. Survivor's guilt is a terrible thing, and Ellie feels she owes a debt. 30:59 This is why he killed everyone involved, well save for the two nurses. A mistake? Everyone there knew why they were there and what they were doing, and every single one of them was okay with killing a 14 year old child so that they could someday be like her. They wanted it so badly that they didn't even tell her what they were really going to do. Joel's lie is important. He did it to help, Ellie move past this and to eventually get over her survivors guilt. She might hate him for this going forward, but he doesn't care. He can live with that. He's created the opportunity for Ellie, after living a life, to make an informed decision to go forward with another operation like this in the future or not. I can see all sides of this argument, but the Fireflies were always wolves in sheep skin. All through the series we heard/saw the bad things they were doing, all while being told FEDRA was the real bad guys. Riley left FEDRA because she didn't want the life of a grunt. She left FEDRA to join the Fireflies who, wait for it, offered the life of a grunt. Marlene put Riley in a mall, that they didn't clear, alone. Marlene also had Riley making pipe bombs, which we saw in episode one, blowing up the FEDRA vehicle outside Robert's hideaway nearly killing Robert and Tess. The Fireflies were using gorilla warfare tactics because they lacked numbers, and they didn't care about the collateral damage, which is something Ellie pointed out to Riley during that mall flashback. We were told the Fireflies do what they do because they want to return the power to the people, and yet we see the Fireflies take Ellie's power away, and this wasn't the first time. They shackled her to a heater in one of their safehouses and kept her prisoner for three weeks remember? She was their property, and they had no intentions of letting her go. Despite what we heard about FEDRA, Kansas City excluded, FEDRA gave the people in their care choices. They were all free to choose whatever jobs they wanted to do to earn extra rations. No one was forced to do any job. Riley was told what her assignment was going to be, sure, but she was military, but we also need to remember that she earned that spot by being rebellious. Captain Kwong didn't throw Ellie in the hole, like she requested, instead he talked with her, reasoned with her and gave her an opportunity to be better. The picture on his desk of his family said a lot. He was a family man, and he spoke of the people in the QZ as if they were his family. Strange, Riley left because she didn't feel like she had a family. While Ellie didn't have a family either, she did feel at home with FEDRA--she spoke up for them when Riley attacked them. Marlene and the Fireflies have a lot in common with David and his Silver Lake flock. Both were going to take from Ellie what they wanted, consent be damned. And when you think about it, there isn't much difference from "When you are lost in the darkness, look for the light" and "When you are in need, he shall provide." Yikes! Great reaction you two. We've got at least a two year wait for the next season. I can't wait.

[@ac5697]

to be fair, i think if they gave ellie and joel a chance to say their goodbyes and have an informed decision, i think joel would be more inclined to accept the situation. but then again, ellie's a 14 yr old girl with survival's guilt and idk how well she her decision making would be but ultimately she'd want her immunity to mean something.

[@LovedByYou]

I love you’re guys commentary on the finale, so spot on.

[@milscollins]

I love how you guys react to small things that i dont see on other reacting channels. for example, "I do [have a choice]" by Joel, i was like oh okay RIP yall, It was straight ass warning😭😂😂😂😂😂

[@mst3KGf]

Yes, how Marlene didn't go, "Okay, I need to put this guy down now" at that line just proves what an incompetent leader she is. Because that line by Joel just screamed, "I'm going to annihilate all of you if you get between me and my child. Just ask those guys back in Colorado...oh wait, you can't."

[@TukaihaHithlec]

@@mst3KGf In her defence, she was trying to be compassionate. It just turned out to be the wrong move.

[@markwang77]

EXACTLY! They’re the only ‘reactors’ that pointed that part out. When I first watched the scene, I was blown away by Joel’s response - his calm ‘I do’ wasn’t a comment…it was an absolute THREAT and promise 💀

[@milscollins]

@@markwang77 btw it was very interesting bc i think that game joel made final choice to save ellie when he saw her backpack in the hall, but hbo joel knew before marlena even finished talking😭😭😭 man was plotting

[@TukaihaHithlec]

@@milscollins That was Joel’s pack. In the game they try to kick him out empty handed, so when he sees his pack he knows that’s his opportunity.

[@deanbrown1259]

Absolutely zero spoilers here from me: I love part II so much, on a story telling level I think it eclipses part I by far and I love part I. Cant wait to see how they adapt it. I can totally see why part II doesn't land for some people but for me it's *chefs kiss* Also thanks for the amazing reactions for this series. On another level to alot of other channels, taking time to pause and discuss moments when appropriate is very much appreciated 😊

[@Brian-mb8sx]

Agreed 100% A huge portion of the internet just heard plot points about Part II (like Spartan) with zero context and decided they hated the game. If people played from start to finish and it still wasn't for them, I can understand that too. But it doesn't deserve anywhere near the hate that it receives

[@Andjelka99]

@@Brian-mb8sx it's a bold choice game makes and tells a story we don't get that much. Only think I would change is maybe rearrange flashbacks and have few more stuff before THE event and it would be perfect for me. Bet season 2 is gonna fix that. Can't wait

[@phader83022]

Couldn't agree more. While I absolutely love part 1, I think that part 2 is a masterpiece from another dimension. The out of this world storytelling and the technical superiority of that game, which runs on an 8 years old console, is just mind blowing. Can't wait for the adaption!

[@agitatedmongoose]

The whole series' message is playing with the dark side of love. Every character in every episode uses love to make brutal/and/or tough decisions. And though the Apcolypse heightens all of this and allows for worst case scenarios, it is applicable in our society too in much smaller ways. A subversive look of love and the corrosive effects it can have on the world. Both in the micro and micro sense. We never usually think of love that way. Usually it is love trumps all.

[@Jinzo9988]

11:43 - Look at the way his shirt is creased. It makes the character look derpy and it's hilarious.

[@murlocholmes2305]

I'm 10 months late to these reactions, now coming to the end -- I know it's already been said a bit lower down.. BUT: Ellie is not closed off for no reason: she is still carrying the mental scaring of nearly being "taken" in a literal burning building (Call it hell) while screaming and fighting for her life.. Right up to the point she knifes him.. She's broken, more than she ever has and Joel knows it. He is trying anything and everything he can to try and reminder her that there is still good, despite all the bad.

[@angeloalvarez5520]

Yeah

[@slowpoke6743]

Pretty sure she cuts the umbilical cord with the knife that was just inside a skull full of cordyceps😣 I think that has more to do with Ellie"s immunity than her moms leg bite

[@danieldaponte1819]

That's a good point lol

[@nonagrey3422]

Fantastic point

[@TopNotchStoner]

If that was true, they wouldn't have made it a point to focus on her cutting the cord and then lying about the fact that she was bitten before cutting it. It showed her panicking when she realized it, and then she cut the cord and tied it off as quickly as she could. We were shown those things very deliberately.

[@slowpoke6743]

@@TopNotchStoner I think I'm focusing more on the movie-biology of how they wished to convey to us that Ellie was infected, not on how her mom hopes Marlene will see things. There's what happened, and there's what Ellie's mom did to save her. Wether she understood what she did with the knife idk but I bet the writers wanted there to be a debate about this very thing. Does it travel to your brain like rabies crawling up your nerves. Taking a longer time the further away the bite is from the brain? Or is it gonna somehow get carried from a bite into mom's bloodstream, through the umbilical in under 5 seconds? If it's the latter, then wouldn't every bite have cordyceps traveling to the brain almost immediately? Cuz the posters in the show say otherwise.

[@TopNotchStoner]

​@@slowpoke6743I know what you mean, but I'm just saying the show was very deliberate in focusing on her getting bitten before cutting the cord, and the fact that she lied about it tells the viewers that it was significant. The writers/director wanted us to notice those things because they wanted to make it very clear to us that the bite affected Ellie before the cord was cut.

[@TrayHardPlay]

Me during the intro where Pudgey tells about Joel’s “beast mode” in 8th episode: oh, just wait for it, you’ll see very soon how the actual Beast Mode look like…

[@ramoncarter3121]

both these actor's will win a emmy

[@jessielallier9483]

I loved watching this series with you guys, can't wait for season 2!

[@LF-du4uc]

Another point re Joel’s decision. The world has never cared for Joel and taken everything from him. There would be no reason Joel would care for the world or the greater good. His decision is the only one that the character as written and developed could make and not be contrived.

[@DaniCool_]

I hope they play the game now that they finish the show

[@indade]

His name…is Joel Wick. Joel and Marlene feared the answer, so they didn’t ask the question.

[@laurenbendik2006]

I love how u thought ashley johnson was playing future ellie based on looks (and prob sound)-thats amazing.

[@ART3MIS_1904]

Ellie's quiet and distant because she's a completely changed person, and is still very traumatized by everything that happened from the last episode 😔

[@WarKrieg]

There's been a really odd reactor amnesia about the deeply traumatic events of the previous episode.

[@Jumpman67]

Well yes and no. Ellie can still be messed up about what happened but in the timeline of events that was actually months ago for them. I think Ellie is more worried about the future and what comes next.

[@dezzythepup]

​@@Jumpman67 ah yes, trauma only lasts a few months then it gets magically fixed. That's not how mental health works my friend lol

[@Taewills]

@@Jumpman67 you don’t understand trauma, which….. is great for you- happy for you- but may be terrible when it comes to your empathy for others. Ellie’s trauma from episode 8 alone is a lifelong struggle. A few months, especially without professional guidance, could actually make her mental health worse instead of better

[@soemmasays]

@@Jumpman67 It's not because of the future. It's the trauma - that's the whole reason Joel tells his story about how he almost killed himself and they talk about wounds healing with time (or people).

[@kappa_06]

Pudgey have a 8/9 cry counter. Perfect xD

[@nodarshurgaia4301]

In todays episode of "Spartan doesn't remember"

[@anniep4597]

Awesome commentary! You both picked up the nuance immediately and I loved seeing it. Joel does a very very bad thing for very understandable reasons. People bend over backwards to make Joel's actions, if not heroic, justifiable by trying to apply real world logic to the show/game when it comes to the cure. I.e. 'A cure for fungus is not possible' or 'how would the Fireflies distribute it?' All things that don't matter because a.) It's fiction and so anything is possible and b.) Joel does not have this info - he doesn't understand the science of it. To him, the cure is 100% possible but he doesn't care. He doesn't care about the world and is happy to doom it all for the person he loves, regardless of what she would want. He makes a selfish, awful decision...that all of us would make. It's a painfully human moment showing what love makes us capable of; great good and terrible evil. The way the hospital massacre is filmed tells us this as well - the music is somber, the camera focuses on the face of a dead Firefly, Joel looks completely disassociated. We watch and go 'I get it, it's Ellie but holy shit this is fucking awful'. We have to sit with that discomfort - a character we love does a terrible, evil thing for reasons we understand and empathise with. The character we love is not a hero and he has robbed the world of a potential cure for his own selfish needs. The character we love is human and makes a human choice...as we all would. Love the channel!

[@martinmillar7137]

For me Joel wicks hospital scene is one of the Greats.. one of the best scenes to ever be recorded for tv.....so brutally understated and poetic....yet devilishly disgusting.... And conflicting...again...one of the greatest ever scenes filmed on camera 📸 10/10

[@beardlessdragon]

I personally really liked the second game and thought they've done a great job with the show adaptation so I'm very hyped for the next seasons! I get why certain story choices were controversial, but I personally thought they were well-written and I respected the boldness and then the follow-through of actually telling a good story with it. So that's my take on part 2 On whether you should react to comparisons to the game: I could go either way on this. It would be fun to see both your thoughts on it, sure, esp Pudgey who hasn't seen the game. But if Spartan was hoping to play it offscreen with her and experience it between the two of you, I think that's sweet and that you should let yourselves have that

[@bobcarter6869]

Don't you think it would have been better if we could have blown Abby's face off

[@laurenbendik2006]

Ive only heard one veryyyy bad thing about game 2 and im so devastated if that happens 😭😭

[@beardlessdragon]

@laurenbendik2006 For me, what matters is whether a story is well-written and handles tragedies well, but I understand people who automatically deterred by tragic shit going down. Though tbf, the first game has really bleak shit in it too haha

[@dwightfields7099]

Ellie could've died for no reason because the doctors wasn't sure that the procedure would've worked

[@millieboon]

Ellie’s mother is the actress who voices Ellie and does the motion capture for her in the games

[@tonydigital6017]

I wish you guys had more reaction vids. I just binged your Last of Us, Wandavision and Loki. I just wish there was more. It’s crazy that there is no Loki 2 here seeing how much you enjoyed 1. I would’ve loved to see your reacts to the Planet of the Apes trilogy as well

[@anitasmith7764]

Pudgey be nice😂 don’t make the poor guy feel bad EVERY time😂 we don’t need resentment building 😂 we like these reactions 😂

[@inesjones5361]

Like Justin Bailey said Ellie just went through horrific trauma. Kidnapping, attempted murder and then the last scene. Mentally and physically she is a warrior. Fantastic series from start to finish. Thank you for your reactions. Hello from the United States.

[@martinmillar7137]

Music was utterly heartbreaking and the muted way it was done...is just oooft 😮 that was sensational and so very true to what joel is actually capable of.

[@suddenimpulse030]

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[@Mickey911-o3j]

Ellie's mum was played by Ashley Johnson the Voice Actress who played Ellie in the Game

[@mikaltima]

Pudgey's jaw was on the floor the entire time Joel was blasting his way thru the hospital....almost 10 minutes straight of😯

[@Deen3232]

9:34 BOMBASTIC SIDE-EYE

[@shonen245]

About Ellie and Marlene. I believe that in the game it was told that Anna left a note for Ellie together with the knife, which Marlene gave to her at some point. So she did know about the friendship between her mother and Marlene.

[@JoshuaG]

8:31 Yep pudgey , thats the Ellie actor from the video game ❤️🤟

[@joepike1972]

20:13 Nah, one of the few things I remembered about the game without prompting was the giraffe too. So, you are not alone in that.

[@macheadg5er]

What didn't you see the town in the valley in the last scene? That is what they were looking at. They were just 15 minutes away. Go watch it again Tommy is right there just a few more steps away lol

[@TransparencyandMerit]

The stoic and the empath. Very complimentary

[@isaacvega8310]

One of the nurses (28:31, "Oh my god") was the voice actor for a very important character in LoU Pt 2. Not saying anything else lol......

[@changingmind2522]

You guys should definitely play the game. Only watching cut scenes makes you miss a lot of the small moments that are very special.

[@joepike1972]

26:48 Joel just went Beast mode 10,000.

[@m.gideonhoyle409]

I think a lot of the controversy surrounding part 2 had to do with game mechanics. The game literally forces you to play part of it as someone you have a really good reason to hate, and that's a difficult thing. That wouldn't be an issue in the TV show. Or at least it wouldn't feel nearly as invasive.

[@elblablaso]

Loved your reactions. That’s all. Saw the entire series with you guys.

[@cassi94]

Watching your reactions truly make my day

[@SpartanandPudgey]

wow we're honoured ❤️🙏🏼 glad you're enjoying them!

[@jamesmeechan6983]

Of course they know that Ellie is immune that is why they wanted Joel to transport Ellie at the beginning

[@shep4life]

I can't believe it's over😢. So amazing

[@scoobysnacks]

The obvious defect in the Firefly's plan was not telling Ellie that she would need to die for them to find the cure, and leaving the decision up to her. If she said yes, then we'd know it was her decision. If she said no, then they could easily have forced her anyway. I think that she would have sacrificed herself but the biggest issue is that she wasn't asked. 100% I would have done what Joel did. Both Ellie and I would be dead now because I'm not Joel, but I would have tried. I also think that I would have been truthful about it with Ellie and would let her decide. If they'd have gotten to the Fireflies before David happened, I think Joel would have been honest with her, but after David, Joel is now completely committed to Ellie and can't deal with losing her. Very impressed with the show, the acting, the cinematography and the music. Having never played the game, and knowing that it is very similar to the game, I can understand why so many people loved it. It's not really about the infection. The infection is more of a backdrop to explain Joel and Ellie's journey from hating each other to loving each other. It was also fun watching reactions from both of you since one of you hasn't played the game and the other has, although barely remembers it. The first thing that came to mind when you said that you know even less about part 2 than you did about Part 1 was Egrett saying...You know nothing Spartan Snow.

[@jabr0nidave262]

Yeah pick a good comparison video of show vs game it'd be fun to watch you react to it, also make sure they're using remake version of the game

[@chandlermorgan708]

Marlene, the doctor, and Joel decided to take away to one thing that could have changed everything for ellie A CHOICE

[@Silver_Owl]

THIS. Everyone here made choices except the one person with the right to make them - Ellie.

[@KaitoMinato]

​@@Silver_OwlEllie 14

[@Silver_Owl]

@@KaitoMinato Yes she is. Which I agree adds a whole new layer to this. If you decide that Ellie is too young to make the choice to die, (and I can see that argument), then Marlene and the doctor are doubly in the wrong. Regardless, nobody even gives Ellie the chance to freely choose.

[@KaitoMinato]

@@Silver_Owl If Ellie too young to make a life or death choice then she don't have the right to make that choice, hence its right if no one give her a chance to make it.

[@Silver_Owl]

@@KaitoMinato It's not right to make the choice for her to die in that case though! You can make a case for Joel defending her, (though I still think she deserved the truth), but Marlene and the doctor are wrong either way.

[@irrelevant_noob]

49:15 well that's an easy choice to make... either option is pretty much equivalent to "both" since i can't really see any difference between the two. 🙂

[@bigj5880]

Time for some more beautiful pudgey and the "I don't remember" guy 😂 jk jk Spartan, enjoyed this journey with you guys 🙏 looking forward to more content!

[@TNRMi]

would love to see you two play the game! 🥰

[@IanJBarker1]

Pretty sure Spartan just forgot about playing the second game 🤣

[@phader83022]

Love your reactions. I just binge watched your E1-E9 videos. To me, TLOU will always have a very special place in my heart. This show absolutely catches the vibe of the game and builds upon it. I really enjoyed both parts of the game. Part 2 even more. It's one of the few Playstation Platinum Trophies I have. Both of you have very open and adorable minds, so I'm pretty sure you will like the story of part II as well. It's tough, but if you extract the essence of it, it's also very deep. Both parts are about love. But about all parts of love. The beautiful ones and the destructive ones. I'll be back for season two - or if you do a Let's play of Part I and/or II, I would be up for it as well. ;) Thanks for sharing!

[@SpartanandPudgey]

Really appreciate this comment, and welcome to the channel!! We can't wait to see what part 2 brings us.... however, we do hope that time allows for us to do a livestream playthrough. We will keep you updated once we decide.

[@joepike1972]

Marlene giving Joel Ellie's knife means in Marlene's mind Ellie is going to die from this operation.

[@julienmarschall7518]

As Kratos you put a cleanshaven Jason Momoa with a Bald Cap😂

[@laurenbendik2006]

I agree with spartan…pedro pascal IS a legend and I also love him 🥹

[@ScorpioSW]

Like Pudgey I had never played this game so I had no knowledge of it at all. I must say other than some pacing issues (especially in the last half) which probably could have been fixed by another couple episodes added between, the series is amazing so far. Pedro and Bella killed their roles like no one else could have and deserve every award out there. While they could have had a bit more of the infected sprinkled in I do like how the focus of the show wasn't so much the infection but the people and their emotions while struggling to get by in this world. It was also really cool how the main voice actors were given roles to play as well, especially the original "Ellie" playing her own mother. Spoilers for this episode: The issue I had with Joels decision wasn't what he did to save Ellie, it was that he lied to her afterwards. Marlene was wrong because she didn't give Ellie a choice but he is making that same mistake and I'm sure it will come back to affect them in the next season. But as for killing the fireflies to save her, if that was me I without a doubt would have done the same to save my family. Incredible show! Looking forward to season 2!

[@Vlad27145]

RE: What Ellie would've chosen I don't think it's that easy. Even if maybe she'd have said yes when it was explained to her, when she'd have found herself on the operating table, faced with being about to die, survival instincts would've kicked in. Keep in mind Joel's story just earlier in the episode. He'd lost Sarah, he'd lost everything. He was ready to die. And he still flinched and in the end kept on surviving. Ellie had things to live for, so that would've went double for her. Let's also not forget that the cure was not a sure thing, far from it. Also, as someone else pointed out below. She's 14. Even IF, despite all of the above, she'd chosen to do it, would you have allowed a child to make that choice?

[@brinu5341]

Absolutely would be here for you guys playing Part 1!!! And then then Part2!!!!! Don't need to stream it. Can easily record I to bite size chunks!

[@jamil4009]

There’s videos on KZbin that has all the game cutscenes. I’d love to see you guys react to those in several episodes

[@ArgusStrav]

There's a line that Jaime Lannister in Game of Thrones says repeatedly, which I think sums up the theme of this entire show: "The things we do for love."

[@jeffreyboyer3714]

Like walking in the rain and snow, when there's nowhere to go. And you're feelin' like a part of you is dying...

[@LMarti13]

When the villain kills the hero

[@scottisitt]

Tommy is in Jackson, Wyoming. Jackson is the town, Wyoming is the state.

[@daven4297]

A real moral roller coaster. Marlene was able to sacrifice the life of someone who was in some way close to her. Joel sacrificed humanity for selfish reasons. He couldn't imagine experiencing the loss of his "own daughter" again. Nothing else mattered to him. Throughout this story told, what is also interesting is the fact that everyone glorifies the murders that Joel commits while protecting Ellie and also everyone condemns others who try to kill Joel and Ellie. The truth is that Joel protects his group, just as Tommy and Maria protect theirs, even David and Kathleen protect their groups... Each of these groups does exactly what Joel does for Ellie. He protects his own people. At this point I come to one very disturbing conclusion. If such or a similar pandemic ever happens, the biggest enemy will not be a virus, a zombie or something like that. The biggest enemy will be the other person, other group. Every group and every person, because their goal will be only to save their own people. Marlene was the only one willing to sacrifice Ellie, whom she raised as a daughter, for the good of humanity. Ashley Johnson did a great job creating the character of Ellie in the game. And the show also created Ellie as her mother giving birth to her... Great symbolism showing that it all started with Ashley... Very clever. By the way, did you know that Ashley starred alongside Mel Gibson in the movie "What Women Want" in 2000? As a teenager. A bit offtopic . I have never played the game. I saw a game play of a Polish KZbinr who introduced an additional atmosphere to the game with his voice. Through this game play I fell in love with this title. Also my teenage daughter (actually she was a few years younger than Ellie at the time). Game version was of course with Polish dubbing, which I have to say is at least as good as the original. The Polish voice actors who voiced Ellie and Joel did a great, great job. The sadder news was that on August 1, 2024, the actor who voiced Joel in the Polish version of the game died. He was 54 years old (RIP Krzysztof Banaszyk).

[@jamesmeechan6983]

The town was Jackson in Wyoming

[@BuddyHoyt]

You guys MUST watch The Mandalorian if you haven’t yet. If you’re impressed with how much he can express unspoken thoughts and emotions with just his face, wait until you see what he can do with just his voice and body language when his face is hidden inside a Mandalorian helmet.

[@blinkachu5275]

Maybe do an episode of reacting to the game's cutscenes? It won't cover everything of course but it would show Pudgey the similarities and differences ^-^

[@shrike113]

That sounds like a great book you are writing. Hope you don’t run out of paper.

[@gailseatonhumbert]

Thanks for the review. It was an amazing finale and yes Jole is horrible at lying. Based on all the game players spoiling things during this season talking about the other I am not interested in the adaptation of the 2nd game at all. Pedro Pascal is a marvelous actor. I am not a TLOU game player btw. Try Narcos it's a series Pedro did a few years ago. This episode is super complicated ethically. A few points. Neill Druckmann (the video game author) asked the game play testers if Joel made the right choice - those without children answered 50-50 parents with children 100% pro Joel. Pedro Pascal was selected for the role because he doesn't (with the exception of the Mandalorian) ordinarily play good guy heroes. Javier Pena in the series Narcos used very questionable methods and Pedro has played some flat out charming deceitful villains as well. Joel tells Ellie about his own suicide attempt after Sarah died and stresses why you keep going on. Pedro's mother committed suicide which is when he switched his stage name to hers of Pascal from his father's name of Balmaceda. Joel telling Ellie he tried to commit suicide was not in the game play apparently. Marlene and Ellie did NOT have any relationship except for the 10 days the Fireflies held her between when they picked her up the mall and handed her to Joel and Tess. Joel and Ellie have different and complementary abilities. One of Joel's is the ability to completely dissociate in a combat situation. There are just threats and risks all of which are eliminated "surgically" on the way to the objective. Marlene took Tommy, Joel's brother, away from him and now Maureen is going to take Ellie away from him. Not happening. AND Ellie saved his life when he was stabbed. Nobody ever says it is being selfish when a man saves his male buddy, comrade or traveling companion do they? But saving a little girl's life? It's completely against all medical ethics to ever kill a person for an untested experimental research hypothesis. Finally why Joel doesn't let Ellie make her own decision. He's béen there himself with survivor's guilt after Sarah died. She's in the middle of that reaction now after David and the cannibals. He's not going to let her make the same mistake he did with his suicide attempt. He may not even be able to express the reason but he knows.

[@DGTLCLANGAMING]

The 2nd game is incredible, and I'm sure the adaptation will be too, so don't write it off just because you know 1 major plot point

[@monique4733]

Is that commander Erwin 😍

[@SpartanandPudgey]

sure is! hes the best!

[@flerbus]

a really good adaption of a really great game hopefully they can find a good story in the mess that was TLoU2

[@rx7dude2006]

LOL not a mess to intelligent people.

[@flerbus]

@@rx7dude2006 revenge is bad , herpa derpa. deep as a puddle

[@fardel8021]

@@rx7dude2006right ‘’revenge is bad’’ is so hard to grasp to the point you need 120+iq.

[@rx7dude2006]

@@fardel8021 Here is what its about for the small brained:A simple revenge story on the surface unveils itself as a story regarding the importance of identity and grief, more specifically how we tend to cope with grief in a time of sorrow and suffering. This story’s branching pathways helped me see how similar the two women actually were. Abby finally found a new meaning to her life the moment she took Lev and Yara under her wing. All the pain, all the sadness and the realization of how useless her tracking Joel and killing him was were swept away upon cementing and finding a new purpose….A real one. Ellie, on the other side, wasn't really seeking revenge and she wasn’t so much mad at Abby more than she was mad at the fact that Abby took away the chance for her to reconcile with Joel. She finally had the strength to try and forgive him but he died the day after….and you kinda have to admit he had it coming. Killing Abby was just a objective to focus on, to evade the thought of how badly she pushed away the man that she loved the most, the father that she never had, tormented by the thought of him thinking that she hated him while dying. It took one moment, a single glimpse of him while trying to drown Abby to remember the gift he gave her that night, a real precious one: How to forgive, how to forgive the man that took her chance of saving the world and to forgive the woman that killed him, seeing how that once fierce warrior was crawling in the dirt to save that scrawny little kid. At almost the cost of her life, she ended up giving back to her worst enemy, exactly like Joel did with her years ago….⁣

[@fardel8021]

@@rx7dude2006 that’s cute an all but it doesn’t work when Ellie killed dozens of people to get to one person. ‘’Took her chance of saving the world away’’ You gotta be real stupid to believe that, you’re telling me that they had the capability’s to not only make the cure but to mass produce it? Jerry prepped the surgery for Ellie within a few hours at most, didn’t take the time to do proper scans biopsies or even ask her consent. Jerry’s death is entirely on him, you don’t bring a knife to a gunfight. Also Abby never regretted killing Joel the guy who save her life, she didn’t even have the decency to put a bullet in his head. Her father died quick, so should Joel have especially considering he saved her. It’s a simple revenge story, a bad one at that. It’s like if rdr2 would have spared Micah at the end lol.

[@samuraiwarriorsunite]

When I saw the Giraffe I initially thought, If that's CGI It's damn good. Nope, it's not that good, the Giraffe was real.

[@bobcarter6869]

Can't wait to hear I'm Puh-geeEEEE every day

[@timopraxis]

Spartan said Batman (14:00).

[@timemaster914]

You two should think about watching The Sopranos! It's a great show and you guys would really like how it tells the story