The Lawyer Sticking It to Casinos

[@jimmytheexpat5719]

we need more attorneys like him

[@ianandersen265]

What we need is the ability to intimidate casinos more aggressively, with much bigger fines, and gaming agents all over the floor at all times, who have zero financial incentive to help the casinos, and authority over all casino personnel, including the CEOs and heads of security. I would love to go the Joe Pesci route and get away with it, but violence against naive casino personnel would never solve the underlying problem.

[@regulusstarseed1368]

nothing is stopping you from reading a book and submitting a court complaint

[@sammylacks4937]

There's a lot of attorneys that don't defend clients with respect to the law and what's right 100% . I garentee there are courts and judges that don't rule that way. This attorney seems too be on the side of the law and his client as the law applies. I can tell you from experience, no matter how strong you think your case is for you do not go to trial without an attorney.

[@josephtomkee7127]

​@@sammylacks4937in

[@e2U]

@@ianandersen265@ianandersen265 We can Hire top PIs and then file lawsuits against them and try to see how much money they have given the local government through payoffs, bribes, and political donations. haha...we, the taxpayer, pay their salaries, and they protect the bad scumbags.

[@michaeltuffin8147]

I want to thank you for all the work you've put in this channel. I'm an old guy, 56, who played 21 for the first time this week during a "bucket list" trip to Vegas. I had memorized the basic strategy card you often talk about. I didn't go to win---I expected to lose--but came home +$2000. I know that's peanuts to you guys, but it felt great.

[@odysseus8403]

Perfect basic strat??

[@michaeltuffin8147]

@@odysseus8403 And luck!

[@ianandersen265]

Perfect basic strategy can still win you money, if you have a generous enough comp program, or fool the casino into thinking you are betting more than you actually are. You could also use indices without raising your bets to lower the house edge even more so, albeit not necessarily enough to get the edge. Another clever thing that sometimes works, is to hide a smaller denomination chip, under a small stack of 3-4 higher denomination chips, so they accidentally overpay you. You do that by angling the chips, similar to Richard Marcus' surveillance scam, only difference it is legal.

[@savageaches4519]

If the security and staff accuse u of cheating Ask them to play against you To prove that u ain't cheating Point closed That's my argument

[@ianandersen265]

@@savageaches4519 The Church Team was known to do that too. If security accused them of cheating, the team member would say: Ok, I'll wait here for Gaming Control to arrest me. Most of the time, casino personnel would respond, "That's not necessary. Just cash out and get out of here."

[@ImaginationBlue]

What an excellent human being, and force for justice. Thank you Bob.

[@hifiandrew]

Finally, if you don't want a cop to tell the casino who you are, respectfully remind the cop that if he runs your name and DOB [through NCIC], that it is "CJI" data under "CJIS". They are not allowed to give CJI data to private parties. If they do that, complain to the FBI. Local police agencies risk losing access to NCIC and other databases if they don't properly protect that information.

[@chevelle1]

The cop has no lawful right to your ID unless you’ve committed a crime. If you’re asked to leave a casino, you must leave or you’ll be trespassed and then the cops can get your id to issue a trespass warning. You have to be given the opportunity to leave first though. Far too many people don’t know their rights. If cops show up and demand your id and you haven’t been asked to leave yet, that is a violation of your 4th amendment right (to be secure in your persons, papers, houses and effects).

[@WaltPowellsAIProductions]

@@chevelle1 actually this is not true

[@celiamacanlalay3775]

James 'Jimmy Packdog' Packer, ARSETRARLIAN casino owner (no more, sold out) fined $80 m and $100 m for criminal activities in the process of conducting business, licences revoked. GOOD GOOD NEWS!

[@chris.eskimo]

​@@WaltPowellsAIProductions The,what IS true ? Please explain

[@Sovereign_Citizen_LEO]

@@chevelle1 - Far too often the police don't know the law (I would argue most of the time/ most cops don't know the law). Which is why they sometimes believe that counting cards is illegal.

[@2011blueman]

This was a great interview. As an attorney I just bought his book on the law for gamblers. It's not my area of practice but as a gambler I'm very interested.

[@MrBadjohn69]

BTW, since YOU are SUPPOSEDLY a lawyer, this clown has a habit of spreading mis-information. For example, as any Washington STate licensed attorney should know, an employee in any controlled entry open bar area HAS THE LEGAL RIGHT to ask customers to check the VALID GOVERNMENT ISSUED ID(for any reason). WHY? Look at the WSLCB regulations. Now most, if not all, casinos in Washington State serve alcohol on the gaming floor which makes it a controlled entry bar. This includes the TRIBAL CASINOS in the state. This so-called blackjack exert has repeatedly said on his channel being challenged for his ID on the casino floor in Washington State is illegal. NONSENSE. On a side note, since all bartenders in Washington STate are required to be licensed, any common bartender knows that. And bas manager. OH WAIT! And casino manager!

[@TheSmartLawyer]

Nice! What is the book called?

[@MrBadjohn69]

@@TheSmartLawyer It is called Fairy Tales and other Myths on how to beat Las Vegas Casinos. On sale now at finer book stores for only $79! And if you act NOW you can get for FREE the audio book aa readby TAI LOPEZ!

[@chuckecheese4124]

Great interview with Bob N. He is the foremost authority on the legality side of AP play. Thank you Colin!

[@FlyEagles-l5t]

Ah yes, AP play, or in other words Advantage play play 😂

[@CarlClayton-lu6ug]

How can card counting be proven? How can you prove what someone is thinking, calculating in their mind????

[@christophergargaro959]

Casinos count on players being naive to gaming laws and assuming that since they are the house, they know the rules so if they say you’re breaking them they are correct. This is reason 1a why channels like BJA and attorneys like Bob are so important to our business. God bless both of them for fighting the good fight.

[@demetriusroy]

It's ok for casinos to take all you money, program/rig machines and use multiple decks but kick you out when you win too many times. Double standards.

[@brentfarvors192]

If card counting was allowed, everyone would do it...There are other games where an advantage player can win, and not get any heat; Specifically craps games, where the odds can be tipped in a players favor...Learn the "roll count", and play max player favored odds, and some even learn to roll specific numbers by dice setting on practice felt...

[@demetriusroy]

@@brentfarvors192 so take the money from all the dumb suckers but when someone is smart enough and figures out how to even the odds like counting cards, then it's not fair? Lmao

[@terpsurfer7221]

​@@brentfarvors192if it was allowed a lot of people would fail at it too... the casinos would make more money off people thinking they're advantage players than they would loose to actual advantage players imo.

[@whylie1555]

Life is full of double standards

[@TheArchfiend]

And knowing all that people still go there in the millions upon millions. Casinos could kick every patron in the crotch on the way out and people would still return.

[@glennchartrand5411]

The one that really blew my mind was going to a casino in St.Louis and saw they added a second blue number to the roulette wheel. Most casinos now have a "0" and a "00" space on the wheel which doubles the amount of times the house wins. Same casino I was playing at a "Jacks or Better" poker table and they allowed extra players to sit because of the crowd , so nearly the entire deck was dealt each hand. (Yes , they had a table that copied the video game) After a while I realized that each of the five decks they were rotating through only had 51 cards. In one hand they dealt out 48 cards , and I could clearly see there were only three cards left. Each deck was missing a face card, which is a big deal in "Jacks or Better"

[@Triplethreatindustries]

There is one sure way to stop casinos Stop going to them !! No players = no revenue = . Well you get the drift.

[@JohnS-il1dr]

If card counting is illegal then chess grandmasters should be arrested because they memorize numerous key games and openings 25 move deep.

[@JoshPyles-v8l]

What that has nothing to do with counting cards casinos don’t have a chess game guy?

[@GabrielPantaleon858]

@@JoshPyles-v8lthink critically

[@greggstrasser5791]

@@JoshPyles-v8l Don’t be a racist.

[@noelthomas7849]

Card counters are just like grandmaster chess players that's why the casinos are labeling us as a threat to their establishment.. but in reality they are the cheaters and crooks who using their odds and tactics of their games.. on their crap tables they give every shooter 5 dice which mean their dice are loaded and magnet.. they already have an advantage on heir odds of the dice a d slots...smh ...and those bogus slots to get over on people cause they claim they don't have no control over their slots which is a lie cause if they didn't have any control over their slots then they will lose money... and when a slot professional who knows how to beat their slots by knowing how to manipulate their slot machines .. the casinos are a corrupt business.. they are not running their games for a d square neither.. SMH

[@HallowedChromeE]

​@@JoshPyles-v8lcard counting uses brain and chess does as well that is the connection

[@mrlatenightdrinker3962]

i clock the roulette wheel (yes it can be done) I was a roulette dealer for 9 years and when I spun the ball even without looking at the wheel I knew where the ball was going to land (minus a bad bounce) won fair share way above 10k in a night just brought the chips home with me brought them back every few days to cash out little by little.

[@Patriarchy_69]

Bruh. I run on simulator, I started with 25$, doubled at each loss. Within 30min, I lost 700,000$. I bet on third dozen only. Thank God it's just a simulator. 😂

[@exmachinz]

Why didn't you take Steve Wynn up on his challenge?

[@mrlatenightdrinker3962]

@@exmachinz never heard of his challenge was it in vegas or AC? I worked in AC

[@mjay6567]

Cool story, Bro!

[@Yonder27]

I have seen the damage Casinos cause. I am one of the few lucky ones. I went to Vegas for a wedding with $800 fun money and came home with a 5k slot machine 🎰 win on one pull. Plus I still had 6 out of the $800 left. I never went back because I know that it is highly addictive and the Casinos always get their money back and will eventually wipe a man out.

[@TheSmartLawyer]

You're right!

[@TimoRutanen]

Gambling is a tax to those who don't know math. Winning that 5k was the most fun you were going to get out of the 800, statistically so great job recognizing it!

[@gregoryrogalsky6937]

Fantastic content. I am glad you got someone like Bob Nersesian to lay this out and such a clear and concise manner. I can't help but think that one of my comments in a video where you didnt know the score inspired you to reach out to Bob. Liked and shared.

[@terpsurfer7221]

Bob doesn't like to mince words. Any interview I've ever watched with him he is point blank.

[@SpaceRanger187]

not about cards but. They had a progressive slot machine here, the Bettry Boop one.. My wife and I locked it up for the million dollars. the machine was going crazy,all these people where around.After 10 mins or so As the casino people got there, the machine went all black. It then turned into an hr fight of me,my wife and about 15 random people arguing with the casino. Because they said they dont have to pay if the machine malfunctions.. Either up stairs can turn off the machine or they have a hand held device.. What a scam the Casino is

[@djm5687]

If the internal RNG doesn't show a "jackpot", the casino doesn't have to pay you *regardless of what the reels say.*

[@realcoach2023]

A video is worth a million dollars in your case

[@TheSmartLawyer]

Ohhhh

[@frankpitochelli6786]

This country NEEDS more lawyers like this man....he's one of the good guys.!!

[@jim2823]

I got banned from the casino close to my house because some guy tried getting in my face. They did me the biggest favor! That place use to take SOO much of my money, now my money is mine. Gambling sucks

[@firestarter1888]

Plenty of online casinos to get stuck into

[@CJSteib]

@@firestarter1888fitting username 😂

[@Ballen81587]

You know the corruption is obvious in these situations If you don’t like what the casino is doing you are then supposed to take it up with the gaming commission…. Who is run by the state…who is getting a cut of the money from the casino they take from players

[@joshuagustin8414]

so happy this man exists

[@belchicola]

This was an awesome listen Colin, thanks for sharing it. Kudos to bob for striking fear into the hearts of those greedy bastards lol

[@adamcash9960]

As a UK citizen a real eye opener to how the laws differ in the USA. Great video.

[@dogguy8603]

In what ways? Just curious

[@aidanr998]

@@dogguy8603 ^ I second this question

[@marcustulliuscicero9140]

@@dogguy8603 Casinos in the UK will scan your ID on entry.

[@dogguy8603]

@@marcustulliuscicero9140 they can in the US, they have evey right to refuse entry, but once your in, and you win, you have evey right to say "fuck you pay me" hell under most circumstances you don't even have to give law enforcement your ID, you can just tell the cop "fuck off" and keep walking

[@djm5687]

​@@dogguy8603 From what I know, in the UK casinos are considered "private clubs", rather than "businesses open to the public". From what I know, when you deposit cash (or exchange for chips) at a UK casino *it belongs to the casino,* and the casino can *legally* take your cash because you didn't "play according to the casino's rules".

[@fromtheblues]

Wow, great interview! Lets go! Bob knows whats up and he's ready to take it to them. Love it.

[@eurotrash55]

I sincerely appreciate this is uncensored and raw. Tired of the KZbin editors censoring every possible "offensive" word. Thank you.

[@mattk8810]

They have to

[@steelflex]

Give it up Stupid

[@unknownkingdom]

Not really inerwsted in gambling or advantage play. But his enthusaism for the topic is contagious.

[@colintimp1372]

The problem is that so many people either don't know their rights in these situations; or they don't pursue payment. I've seen it happen multiple times where I have told a player to call the state's gaming commission; and they just choose to let it go. That's why they keep doing it. It's just like when a business acts illegally and are fined $10,000. However their illegal acts made them $1,000,000. Do you think they're going to stop?

[@steveoshei1819]

The problem is the casino's are worth billions and act as dictators. They can buy whatever outcome they choose.

[@jamesc2545]

Very informative, thanks Colin.

[@Blackjackapprenticeship]

Glad it was helpful!

[@BAND-MAID-USA]

All I’ve learned from this video is this. Ppl with even an ounce of power will fuck your life up.

[@codedecode878]

one thing you learn as a more mature man, is that the law and police officers do not at all operate like it is shown on TV and as taught in schools (in law schools too!). the real world can really surprise you.

[@cewnik24]

What really surprised me was when he said "it's their data", "you've given up that information, it's theirs to sell". Lol, as a European who's used to our GDPR data protection rights, this feels so backwards to me. Whatever information that's out there that's about me - I own it. Whoever keeps a record, does so purely on my behalf and as soon as I demand anyone to delete it, they're required to do so - just because it's mine and I have rights to privacy and data about me not being exposed and sold against my will - like my address, license plate or a picture of my face. I hope the States catch up some day

[@redzwestisbest]

the entity would have to prove where they obtained the data. If it was voluntarily provided or if it was public and the public source legally obtained the data, then it will be tougher to go through the US privacy laws.

[@wernerfoerster3666]

As an American lawyer, the original comment makes no sense

[@slickspade]

This was a great interview. So much great information. Keep up the good work.

[@AndrewWiggin-j7j]

Great content, as usual coming from BJA. Thanks Collin!

[@CajunGreenMan]

I already have one of his books, didn't know there was a second, I'll have to look for it. Keep up the great work!

[@esparpos5543]

Been waiting for this one

[@marby602]

Taking a stand against police abuses of authority & criminal cops, is a critical part of having a just society !

[@everythingbeautiful-xc9qt]

I wa playing poker at a Harraha in Vegas, and I’m a female school teacher . I was apprehended from the table , hand cuffed for prostitution. Pulled into back room . They made me call my work to prove I was a school teacher n California… I was detained over an hour and they called the police on me . I was simply playing card games ! How humiliating!

[@wernerfoerster3666]

As a lawyer, I would take that case!!

[@hifiandrew]

I'd like there to be additional emphasis, especially when it comes to avoiding civil forfeiture or other false arrests -- when speaking to cops, remember these phrases: I DO NOT CONSENT TO ANY SEARCHES. I DON'T ANSWER QUESTIONS. AM I FREE TO GO? ... Are you carrying any money? I don't answer questions. Can I look in the bag? I do not consent to any searches. Am I free to go?

[@scottmghill]

59:30 "A driver travels one mile per hour under the speed limit for 22 miles... ...who drives like that?" ANYONE WITH CRUISE CONTROL DRIVES EXACTLY LIKE THAT. ESPECIALLY IF THEY SEE A COP BEHIND THEM. IT'S NOT REASONABLY SUSPICIOUS.

[@danielesbordone1871]

This guy is a living legend.

[@rottenfruit7833]

One thing that you can clearly see from Bob Neresian's personality is the same quality you will find in every good professional, a vase amount of passion for his work.

[@swinn848]

What do I do when I have paid for a room and have cash and a suit sitting in a room and get thrown out

[@ianandersen265]

Here's another key thing to know. If the casino mailed you notification that you are excluded from a specific casino, even if you never got caught there directly with a history during or after the fact, you have no case. That one guy guy featured in that towel, and cargo shorts all over Chicago in Holy Rollers documentary, betting min to max, did not have a case against Caesars for trying to sneak in illegally and running away from a security guard who tackled him in Vegas. Scary thing is, more casino companies like Penn National Gaming, are looking to up their game and link their players cards, like Caesars, so they can ban you from all their properties for getting caught once. Indian casinos and Jack Entertainment has had a lot of success with that. The government doesn't care: they are being bribed by casino companies, and are much more concerned about making sure you pay your taxes, before they even consider making a ruling in your favor, aka the clean hands doctrine. Unfortunately, gambling taxes are a huge nightmare. Unless you are generating CTR's, there is wiggle room to not reporting gambling taxes, but you are playing with fire by not reporting it, thanks to Suspicious Activity Reports. I can only imagine the long, boring, complicated tax process KC had to endure, in order to report his winnings on his taxes. KC had to pay taxes in multiple different states, and did not always have the option to report gambling losses. I wouldn't be surprised if KC got audited for his casino ventures all over the country. Compare that to KC's glory days, when he spread his action all over Vegas with credit lines, and never had to pay state taxes on his winnings: only Federal taxes, where he was allowed to report expenses and losses on Schedule C, got lots of comps, and did not have to travel as much, especially after moving to Vegas for awhile.

[@torontoreviewed]

Thankyou for this interview! He’s a hero! 🎉

[@mikewagner6396]

He needs to be running the Nevada Gaming Control Board

[@MewtwoStruckBack]

I want him on the board, and I want at least one of the people who was integral to Pennsylvania mandating 3:2 S17 DA2 DAS LS at all casinos in the state on the Board as well. Then we’d see an end to prosecuting counters AND and end to 6:5 and H17.

[@paulzappulla9770]

The problem with the gaming control board since its inception is, there's a form of nepotism, it's called the mormon church, if you look into it, you will see it to be true, and the problem with that is, your letting people oversee gaming without having real good knowledge of it.

[@shewolf_san7671]

Yes, I agree .... lets vote him in and things will be much balanced.

[@cloutogelevatedtv9000]

i tried to look into that and can't find anything do you have any sources or keywords to search to find this information? I'm really curious to find out about this history of nepotism@@paulzappulla9770

[@coreyhahn2887]

That would never happen. The gaming control board is essentially a ploy at this point. I’m convinced casinos have them paid off to be in the casinos favor not the players.

[@powell4661]

In 1997 Ihad my south carolina drivers license revolked, but Tennessee issued me one. Later got stopped in South Carolina and the officier took my Tennessee driver's license and issued me a ticket. Later in court , the judge ordered my Tennessee driver's license returned.

[@wesch6354]

I worked in Oklahoma native casinos for over 10 years. I will tell you I have seen them violate gamblers and employees rights several times. They do that because they know you can't sue. Someone needs to take them all the way to the Supreme Court and get it changed so that they are held just as accountable as any other casino. They have "sovereign immunity." That doesn't mean they don't have to follow federal law. It means they get to act kinda like they are their own state. But they still have to work with the state they are in to negotiate a compact to allow them to operate gaming facilities. So by the compact that still holds them with some accountability to the state as well as the federal government.

[@fljetgator1833]

@Wes Indian/ U.S treaty. Sovereign nation. Different law. People sometimes forget that they're not always protected in the same way. Only recently in Oklahoma has the government of the state wiggled its weasly way into the Tribal jurisdiction going against the treaty

[@JPatel1995]

Another reason I don’t go to those casinos ever.

[@christophergargaro959]

Just after he took up poker, Stu Ungar was a known card counter because he had a genius level IQ and the rare gift of “total recall” memory. He was once bet by casino owner and friend Bob Stupak that if an entire deck was dealt one by one face up, he couldn’t name the last card. Ungar correctly called the last card (10♦️). He was killing casinos in AC in 1982 when they had him detained on a bogus charge of capping a bet. They said if he paid a fine of $500 and signed an acknowledgement that he cheated at the game, it would all go away. Ungar said go f yourself and fought it. He won in court but the battle cost $50K in legal and travel expenses. Later he said that he realized the point of them accusing him wasn’t because he was guilty but to harass him and let him know if you count here were going to spend what it takes to make you miserable. This is how they operate. This is who they are. Not much has changed since then.

[@ddeboy002]

I'm one of the early birds to casinos-I stick to slots mostly but play some 3 card poker on occasion. I've seen casinos put their cards on the table and spread them out. They then pull about 15 high cards out of an 8 deck shoe. I've seen it more than 10x in the last year.

[@DayDream-RR]

Listening now on my ride home, 20 mins in and it’s been awesome!

[@Blackjackapprenticeship]

Awesome! Glad to hear it. We're trying a "vodcast" style interview, hoping people enjoy the whole thing.

[@DayDream-RR]

@@Blackjackapprenticeship That’s great!!! I’ll watch a million “how to win blackjack” videos from you, but the insider information and knowledge this guy has is priceless

[@ligafftheindifferent3495]

Bob is THE MAN in this area.

[@tundeukwu]

Fantastic interview

[@OrigMaelstrom]

So, question on the discussion around the 25:00 minute mark...when the staff (whether it is the waitress bringing drinks or the dealer or pit staff) is tipped in chips, they did not win those via the tables, so the casino's *could* (not likely, though) say 'nope -- not paying those out'? I find that questionable

[@MS-oz2wu]

I've seen a lot of KZbin vids but this captivated me. I couldn't stop listening. Its obviously important on the subject of gambling; vs the bs we're feed trying to brainwash ppl into calling gambling Entertainment. The media and casions started calling it entertainment in the early 90's. To me it is not entertainment. It is gambling. You also cover the idea that people are protected by law. The only problem for ppl is finding a lawyer to take their case of which I've had a couple in Las Vegas, potentially huge cases thrown but lawyers who took may money and dumped my case and ppl gotta know this bc lawyers in vegas can't be trusted. This discussion adds a glimmer of hope to ppl wanting to get a lawyer for their case. But its a worse bet than playing blackjack. 😊

[@blackjackshooter6547]

Awesome interview. Thank you both for sharing. ♠️♥️♣️♦️💰💰💰💰

[@mrtheominousone]

More of these! This is awesome

[@eliteotaku]

arresting someone for counting cards is like arresting someone for knowing that the odds of a coin flip is 50/50

[@martinlaursen7972]

Great info. All regular gamers should watch this video. Thanks for sharing.

[@simpleman4308]

That guy is always a good interview

[@JB-dv3to]

GREAT KNOWLEDGE!!!!!! AWESOME STUFF GUYS. THANK YOU!!!

[@Dreadnaught1985]

I think the reason in many cases the gaming control board will side with the Casino (which is wrong) is because of the ease of their ongoing relationship. They have to deal with the Casino's on a daily basis for their entire careers. They only need to deal with you, the patron, the individual, that one time with this one incident. So they are choosing to have a softer relationship with the Casino, for in part that reason. And I think in bigger part, the idea that "well the Casino does good things for the local community, they employ hundreds if not thousands of people, their taxes pay for public services" and I think that second reasoning is more likely to happen in smaller communities like reservation Casinos (Where there is little to no other industries to speak of)

[@pinkguitar9]

a real hero. learned so much today. 👏👏👏

[@yogidemis8513]

One of the first times going to a casino I was with friends and decided to play Blackjack and the table was full and I was betting 5 sometimes 10 dollar bets and I won 4 or 5 games in a row. First time luck I called it, a few minutes later the Pit boss came up and told me that I had to leave. I was confused, I won a few games, yeah no biggie but I didn't know any about counting cards, I'm straight up stupid when it comes to numbers and yeah he thought I was counting cards. Kicked out less than 30 minutes and only walked away with 20 dollars (if I remember correctly) went to another casino across the street and ended up losing 300 bucks because I didn't know Jack about playing cards.

[@gstacks510]

So basically he's only taking cases he knows he is going to win.... I spoke with this man on the phone. I explained him my story. He said he wouldn't take it because there was maybe a 30-40% of winning and the process would take about 2 years. This interview echoes what he told me. There is no little to no protections for AP's. Those settlements/trial wins are just a drop in the bucket to the many cases that don't win or don't ever get presented.

[@sonny12681]

In the State of New York, a law was past to make casino more fair so that's why there's no dealers or table casino games at Jake's 58. All of the table games are electric table games so that casinos cannot cheat on their customers. It's easier to win in a New York state casino than any casino in the United States.

[@CharlieDontSurf1006]

Forget card counting... I have a true story for you. For 2 years I went to the Hard Rock Casino in Davie Florida. In two years I never hit a jackpot. When my 50th birthday they were having a drawing 420 $400 in freeplay. Every 15 or 30 minutes they drew 10 names for 4 hours. I was fortunate enough to be called during one of the drawings and I spent the next nine and a half hours playing every penny of that 2400. At 9:30 a.m. the next morning I walked out of the casino with $5,400. I had one over 6,000 and when I got home I thought to myself... they are flipping switches and picking winners. Since that Revelation I have never been back to another casino. This took place in 2015.

[@TheFrenchPug]

That's very believable.

[@tw5139]

That is nonsense. Florida is a Class 3 jurisdiction, none of the machines are controlled from the back of the house to hit or not hit a jackpot.

[@MacMilly707]

My favorite part is, "they're lyyiinnnnggggggg!!!!"😂🤣😭🍿👀🤦👌✊💪🙏🤩🤑😁🌞🤣

[@384dave]

That was a super interesting video watching it here in Bolton uk 🇬🇧 who likes to vacation in vegas regularly

[@Tom-mc6fm]

Watched this till 3am. After wining a slot jackpot ,received a ticket for the prize,went to cash it they asked to see my driver's license to get the cash do they have the right to do so? Would showing the W2 be enough? Thanks wonderful interview!!!

[@Youdoxxikill]

You probably need to have the id bc uncle Sam needs to his piece if you win over *I believe * 1300

[@djm5687]

The casino has the *right to ask* for your ID. You have a right to refuse to provide ID. The casino should still cash you out.

[@MontySlython]

Depends in how big the prize

[@djm5687]

From what I know, the casino has a right to ask. If you refuse, you might get cashed out, but you will probably be barred (per casino policy, but not a legal requirement. For amountsof $2,500+, they are required ask (to prevent "structuring), but you still have a right to refuse. You will probably have a "Suspicious Activity Report" (SAR) prepared against you, any you may be barred (per casino policy). For amounts over $10,000 *the casino must ask for ID and cannot (by law) allow you to play anymore.* I hope this helps.

[@mcspud]

They can ask, but you have no obligation to show them.

[@hbk314]

As far as civil asset forfeiture at a traffic stop, they have to have had cause to pull you over in the first place. When you deny consent for a search, they legally can't keep you there beyond the time it takes to warn you or ticket you for what they stopped you for to wait for a dog. If they hold you for longer than 15 to 20 minutes for a simple traffic ticket just to get a canine unit out there, that's grounds to invalidate any search as well.

[@thebellcurve3437]

Does that apply in Nevada only or every state? Because I envision this hypothetical which I'm sure happened plenty of times in real life: a motorist is pulled over for speeding, the cop gets a "gut feeling" that the motorist is hiding something and asks to search the vehicle. Motorist doesn't consent to the search and this pisses off the power-tripping cop who threatens to call a K-9 unit, and then _detains the motorist for 30 minutes_ until the K-9 unit arrives. You're saying if the dog finds anything, it's not admissible in court? And the 30 minute detention is false imprisonment?

[@c0lutch]

@@thebellcurve3437all they have to say is “I believe I smelled marijuana” and they can get away with it.

[@thebellcurve3437]

@@c0lutch Yeah that's a legal loop-hole around the 4th Amendment. The odor of marijuana is not provable yet it gives officers the right to search a car because it's "probable cause".

[@mp4Junkie]

@@thebellcurve3437 the case law is Rodriguez vs United States (if i remember correctly) & it is a federal law. In that case law, suspects were pulled over for a traffic citation. Ticket was issued. Cop made them wait much longer for a dog to arrive after the fact. Dog alerted and cops found methamphetamine. The drug charges were later dropped in court and this became the standing law.

[@PAlt-p6y]

​@@mp4JunkieI'd avoid being combative and keep in mind that 15-20 minutes would be a generality, not a hard and fast rule. More importantly, those dogs are usually about a coin-flip. They more often get evidence from people turning it over when they make a baseless threat.

[@nadagabri5783]

Regarding the Gina story I didn’t hear a conclusion other than the GOV sent him a check. However did they sue / win against the federal agent who stole the 90k in the first place or just drop it ?

[@Dmartinez9959]

Would love to know Bob's thoughts on the rules [and laws] when Indian Casinos violate your rights and/or try to invoke "their rights" on you 🤔

[@Youdoxxikill]

Can you elaborate? I'm new to casinos and the ones around me are all native owned and Ive seen a couple things now generalizing a long the lines of what you're saying

[@gamechanger835]

He basically says you are "fu@$ed"

[@michaelrennicke2156]

Sovereign nation. You have far less rights, if any on Indian Casino grounds.

[@tomnisen3358]

They are sovereign nations. Good luck!

[@JPatel1995]

29:32 casinos have a right to demand whatever they want .. doesn’t mean you have to accommodate them.

[@jamesfernandes3662]

Very informative :D Thank you! keep these videos coming :)

[@earlterhune5528]

Great stuff. Great explanation. Keep up the great communication

[@onemoremisfit]

On the topic of civil forfeiture and roadside searches of your car during a traffic stop: INAL but from what I've heard, when you refuse consent to any search (which you should always do) and then the cops respond by saying if they have to get the dog out there it will take hours, you should NOT respond by saying anything like "fine, whatever, get the dog out here, I've got all day". The reason why you do not want to say that is it implies consent to an unreasonably long detainment. From what I've heard (again INAL) courts have ruled against detainment for any length of time in a simple traffic stop that is not reasonable to issue a traffic ticket (say 20 minutes) and some states even have laws about this. So when they try to use the threat of long detainment to coerce you, your polite response should be "I don't consent to any searches and I also don't consent to any unreasonably long detainment", and you must verbalize that clearly so it can be heard on any audio recording of the stop. Like the lawyer said, it does not guarantee anything, but if the cops end up having you sitting there on the roadside under detainment for 2 hours while you clearly said you do not consent to any unreasonably long detainment, it might possibly give your lawyer one more item of the traffic stop that can be challenged in court. Verbally denying consent to every step of the traffic stop does not take any extra effort on your part, and when you say something like "fine, whatever" to the cops when they jerk you around on any aspect of the stop, it can be construed as consent on your part, and I think any lawyer would agree that consent is something you never want to give them.

[@mattmorris4016]

Awesome lawyer! Defending people against big business

[@christianmathison1182]

The tips to dealers shouldn’t be redeemable if I can’t redeem a chip Dennis Rodman gave me, right?

[@woden_arbosa]

If the policy is nontransferable then theres no leg to stand on to grant an exception

[@tonimartin6167]

I stopped going to the casinos, and they became so greedy that is just disgusting 😢

[@bobgreenfield9158]

They are whoo run.

[@Matt-wf7ry]

They have always been greedy - this is nothing new.

[@DeportillegalAliens]

Yeah, they don't stand on soft 17 , pay 6/5 and use a 100 decks ! They turned black jack into big 6! Lol

[@civil_leuthie]

This is the smartest comment. If no one plays 00 and 000 roulette, those games will go away. If no one plays 6/5 blackjack, that game will go away. It's a conversation and people don't often hold up their end of it.

[@prophetmargin7497]

Getting paid from the casino in cash is fine but what you should do is find the nearest ATM machine, and immediately deposit everything directly to your bank account!

[@godjhaka7376]

Yes because casinos have hitmen outside and by the front door and parking lot watching to rob you and get their money back

[@patrickstofanakiii948]

so for pennsylvania, the valid ID for 10,000.01 is DL, ID Card, Military ID, Valid canadian DL/ ID card, US territory DL or ID card, Passport, Residency card, and i believe a work visa also quaifies

[@Old_Mansplaining]

Legendary lawyer is 100 % correct. Mr Bob is a national treasure in the gambling business.

[@davidjennings4589]

In my home State it is in fact called, "theft by conversion". Titling a car in your name when you have possession but have not paid for it is theft by conversion also.

[@brianchristopher4666]

Crockfords took Phil Ivy's Money and kept it because of "advantaged play!" Phil didn't break any laws, and of course wasn't arrested. Yet the Casino fenagled their way out of paying him out!!! (cause they could!). The courts I think side with the Casino for obvious reasons??? I recommend never ever playing at a Crockfords casino, under any circumstances! I'd certainly never want to hit a jack pot there!!! Might get someone telling you the machine malfunctioned!

[@djm5687]

From what I know, in the UK, casinos are considered "private clubs", and can *refuse to pay you* if you break *their* rules.

[@fukyu2139]

He did what? "He STOLE it" ha ha ha... love this comment!!

[@THEDEGENERATEGAMBLER97]

37 years old. It is with this video I am learning card counting isn’t 100% illegal. I’ve always thought it was

[@spirunk63]

Also what is the phone number for gaming control that you can call if you're in a pinch?

[@brianwillson3693]

In 2018 i was playing at a casino (Riverwind Casino in Norman ,Oklahoma) and was on a good luck spree and in my 6th visit as i walked in the casino and at the first machine I came to im flanked by a casino worker on my right and on my left and they stopped me from putting my money in a machine and they proceeded to unplug the machine and it was not even broke .All the machines i played in my previous 5 visits in a three week period ,they unplugged them all which i was not playing and they were not even broke.I feel like my rights were violated .I could of easily lost my money but was on a good luck streak.

[@keenanreese5301]

Have counted cards, and have been banned from a couple bars, but recently have been banned for life from two local casinos for taking advantage of their machines. No lawyer would take my case.

[@georgeg2230]

what machines in particular may i ask? thanks

[@keenanreese5301]

@@georgeg2230 , I've been sworn to secrecy, but I can tell you every slot I've taken advantage of is showcased in different KZbin videos. Even machines that can be taken advantage of, that I've never seen.

[@christophercarlone9945]

I've been considering taking my local casinos to court over their trespasses against me for advantage play. I think we seriously need federal gamblers protection laws that ensure advantage players cannot be barred for beating casinos who knowingly offer beatable games. I know some AP's advise against it out of fear of reprisal from the state and the casino monopoly. But look at Ken Uston. He fought them in Atlantic City and I'm pretty sure he won, albeit on a small scale.

[@stevenhelgason8190]

I'd like to agree with you Chris, but what if that were the case? If casinos didn't have the right to barr by federal law, they would just countermeasure. Likely there wouldn't be a beatable game available to play. In other words, the reasonable pen 3:2 shoe or double deck game would go away.

[@rebornfenix4412]

Missouri has laws the specifically prevent casinos from banning card counters. What happens is they flat bet the table, 6 deck shoe with 25-50% penetration, no mid shoe entry etc. but they don’t ban you, just make it so the table hates you and you leave on your own.

[@christophercarlone9945]

@@rebornfenix4412 I'd rather have that than permanent barring and constant arguments with stupid people. You can always change your look and let the heat die down and come back later in those circumstances. You can't do that if they read you the trespass act and arrest you on your second time around.

[@warrmalaski8570]

58:00 There is a third avenue to challenge the dog on. The officer can not extend a stop beyond reasonable time. (Generally however long it takes to affect action on the original offense.) To get a dog or anything else to you location. A two hour delay has been ruled a unresionable detainment by the Us supreme court.

[@KilTay422]

What Bob doesn't understand..The Sheriff's and the Judges are going to back their tax goose... Casinos bring in tax dollars !!!

[@twostate7822]

At around the 1:00:00 mark, Bob asks the question who drives at exactly the same speed and doesn't swerve? Answer: Those with good cruise control can maintain the same speed, and those with good autopilot/autosteer can maintain lane control.

[@FractionalMateo]

As a trained dealer there is a STRONG linguistic issue I take with CHIPS vs CHEQUES The term “Cheque” is used when that clay disc does have monetary value. For example, the Cheques you get at a casino can be turned into the cashier's cage for cash. An easy way you could remember it is “Chip” means its worthless while “Cheque” means it has monetary value. When I lived and worked in Vegas this distinction was incredibly important.

[@wernerfoerster3666]

Chip carries the same definition / legal right as cheque

[@RONderluck]

I’m 44 years old. I’ve been counting cards since I was 18 and I’ve never made it obvious. I’ve never been backed off. I’ve never been walked out and I seriously don’t know how other card counters make it so obvious.

[@Ismcant]

@59:00 I could be mistaken, but I believe it is also case law that police cant extend the length of a traffic stop to get a dog out for longer than it takes to write the ticket for the offense you were originally pulled over or (assuming there was no evidence of any other crimes visible and able to form reasonable, articulatable suspicion

[@PAlt-p6y]

Police dogs are almost literally 50/50. When they realize you know that, it's usually over.

[@mcspud]

It's a due process issue - you can't be pulled over for one thing, and then use that time to establish probable cause for another thing independently.

[@wernerfoerster3666]

lsmcant you are exactly correct ... Martinez case if I remember correctly. mcspud. its not a due process issue. It's a fourth amendment issue. Sorry, but completely incorrect analysis.

[@garryhickey7355]

Potentially a dry video at a glance, but I loved it. Watch and learn. Thanks Bob Nersesian!

[@miket7071]

How do the laws discussed come into play on a cruise ship that only operates the casino in international waters?

[@Youdoxxikill]

Now that's a good question

[@tommcmahon2369]

Banker here. If you get a check have them make it payable to your bank for example make it payable to PNC Bank. You are able to deposit the che k into a personal account within that banking institution. However if you lose it any person would be able to deposit the check given they have an account at that bank.

[@UNUSUALUSERNAME220]

Or a cashiers check. Or a transfer, the casino will let you deal with their bank. Choose any other way, besides cash. Too many horror stories associated to cash.

[@rockygiunta3552]

It happened to me in Logan airport Bisyon...DEA airport police stole my money....thank God I made a scene and asked for a receipt...3 months later i got my money back....lawyer took half....big rip off...it was small amount $ 9500...i.was going to gamble at Foxwoods casino...missed the tournament flew back home broke....

[@colintimp1372]

Also Terry v. Ohio was the Supreme Court case that led to the term Terry Stop. Basically if a police officer pulls over someone who is driving they always have a right to ID. Other than that, there are 3 stages to police/public interaction. First is the voluntary interaction. An officer is free to ask questions and a person is free to answer or not to answer; as well as to provide ID and is free to leave at any time. (Also there is a distinct difference between identifying one's self and showing ID). The second stage is detainment. This requires articulatable reasonable suspicion that a crime has, is or will be imminently committed. A person being detained is not free to leave and must identify. The last is arrest, which requires probable cause.

[@joshshapiro5970]

I was told that "they din't want my action at the coast properties" even they knew i was counting at a five dollar table and comped my friend and myself dinner in the steak house several times. It happened in my mind when they thought i was being greedy...I played at a $25 dollar table, ironically loosing. I saw what appeared as a black and white picture of me walked past the table and five minutes later i was told that, "they didn't want my action. You can play any other game, but not blackjack here."

[@nsme6942]

Casinos are hypocrites