The Legend of House Ordos | Dune Lore

A discussion of a famous non canon invention that has continued to fascinate fans, the mysterious House Ordos. House Ordos itself originates from the Dune Encyclopedia and afterward Westwood Studios chose to expand upon this piece of lore themselves by featuring House Ordos prominently in their groundbreaking RTS Game Dune 2, later remastered as Dune 2000 and in the game's sequel Emperor: Battle for Dune. The developers took inspiration from the Encyclopedia as well as David Lynch’s 1984 film interpretation when creating a narrative based on Frank Herbert’s universe.
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[@briannewman532]

I was a big fan of Dune 2 when I was a kid. Looking back, House Ordos seems like a perfect example of "expanded universe" lore done right. They really feel like they belong in the canon. I think Herbert would approve.

[@brianstanton2721]

Yeah I agree, they they share a lot of traits with the harks for sure lol Vlad would like em lmao even tho they'd prob. try and kill each other like most entities in dune

[@minicle426]

It's a shame really purists are so hung up on 'canon' as I'd like to see Ordos featured in more stuff.

[@rgloria40]

And now everyone like Dune and it other media item. Time to find another childhood SCIFI favorite like Robotech...Space 1999....

[@felixk1843]

​@@rgloria40because it is too mainstream for u and u want to be edgy and different?

[@rgloria40]

@@felixk1843 Nope Kids don't want Old farts hang around as the experts...And they won't spend their own money. "Feel the youth hate." Best make thing easier for them and move to the next project....

[@TheCasualSubculturist]

Nostalgic name for those who played Westwood Studio's RTS games.

[@Ater_Swe]

I did not play Westwood's Dune 2, I was raised by it.

[@jackslagle2019]

Ahhhhhhh ohh man. I spent so much time on that game

[@Ater_Swe]

@@jackslagle2019 I cheated like crazy, found out that the map files had codes for what fraction owned a unit or building that was on the map from the start. Took control over sandworms and gave my enemy's hell!

[@Marcelo83uk]

@@Ater_Swe ooooh I love this!

[@jackslagle2019]

@@Ater_Swe control of the Sand worm’s sounds EPIC! No more harvesting problems then?

[@erikbjelke4411]

Ordos are pretty interesting. On one level, it makes perfect sense for an RTS game: You have "Elite" faction, Atreides, with fewer but more capable units, reflecting them putting a higher premium on human life (and thus, quality soldiers more likely to survive multiple battles). You have the "Spam" faction, House Harkonnen, with a focus on greater numbers of weaker units, reflecting their lack of concern about individual lives and preference for buying cheap, disposable machines. Between the two, you need a "Tricky" faction, one that comes at its opponents sideways, defeats them more through guile and underhandedness but will probably lose a stand-up fight. House Atreides is too noble and House Harkonnen to brutish for that approach, so sticking in a third faction makes sense. And in Dune, trickiness, deceit, and dishonor are synonymous with Thinking Machines, so making this Tricky House Ordos faction the one not afraid to use technology outlawed by the Empire also makes sense. It's also totally logical, to me at least, that not everyone would buy into the ideals of the Butlerian Jihad or follow the laws against Thinking Machines. Ix and Richesse are already implied to publicly be pushing as close to the boundaries of the laws as they can get away with, and perhaps secretly breaking them all with abandon. So, yeah, I can totally see House Ordos from the games, or something very much like it, existing somewhere in the Duniverse.

[@TheCrimsonMinistry]

My first exposure to the Duniverse was my cousin inviting me over to check out his new PC game, Dune 2- The Building of a Dynasty back in 1992. I was hooked from day 1. Shortly after that, we rented Lynch's Dune (1984) on VHS and I had no idea what was happening, but liked it too. Then I started reading the books. I did not read the full anthology until my 30s, but love them all, even though they get weirder and weirder as you progress. Even some of the Brian Herbert stuff is ok. Great video!

[@kimbleton]

Wow. This was the pretty much the exact same thing that happened for me also word for word except it was a close friend and not a cousin.

[@fieryphoenix586]

Dune 2000 and Emperor: Battle for Dune was my introduction to Dune. It was close to the time when Children of Dune premiered on Scifi.

[@biff647019]

My dad was either the main artist or one of the main artists on the Dune 2 game. Ren Olsen. Worked for Westwood through all the 90s. I played Dune 2000 a few times and at the time it was one of the coolest games I'd ever played. But I didn't have a computer so my joy was short lived. Around 2010 my dad showed me the copy of Dune 2 he had worked on and it was just a whole bunch of floppy disks and I laughed. I remember 2000 being on a cd and the gameplay of 2 that I saw was nothing but pixels. So if 2000 is a remaster of 2, then that is one hell of a remaster. Always thought till now they were two separate games.

[@JBLardizabal]

Your dad is a legend and I thank him for his contribution to one of the earliest games with the biggest impact on our lives - or mine, at least. Cheers. 🎉

[@theshi3152]

Dudeeeeee your dad Drew my childhood!

[@Halo1138]

I love popping on the old Westwood Dune game cutscenes. I love how they ran with the Lynch films for aesthetics while making it their own thing as time went on. Part of me hoped they would do another Dune RTS with FMV cutscenes. It really was a magical time for games. I said it before and I say it again, the Ordos are the most interesting of the three houses since they seize Arrakis not by bullet but by stone cold bucks. What better way to stick it to the Emperor by using his own economic systems against him?

[@Edwinstewart88]

I know they have a mmo survival game in development like age of Conan looks promising

[@CmBlast]

And Ordos in dune 2 are the hidden "hard difficulty" of the game, since in gameplay they are the underdogs, having a faster but weaker Raider, the Siege tank comes 1 mission later, the lack of the missile tank, and the Saboteur being so easy to be killed. In Dune 2000 is similar but they gave mercenaries to compensate.

[@FluffySylveonBoi]

The last 3 missions are a breeze though, because they have the Deviator, best unit in the game.

[@CmBlast]

@@FluffySylveonBoi The Death hand is also suppose to never miss the target if you do something specific. I never tried myself.

[@XanderDorn]

The Ordos started out as a placeholder for the smugglers of Arrakis and evolved into a placeholder for IX (despite the fact that IX was still there as a separate faction).

[@ALTRON3]

I discovered DUNE when I played Dune 2 : The battle for arrakis (PC, Euro title,1992) It was the first RTS game id ever played and it was amazing. Id spend hours making units for a massive push to steamroll the enemy base. Gotta watch out for those worms though !! "Construction complete "

[@Marcelo83uk]

Moving them all individually, saving when you had them all lined up with a row of missile tanks shooting way into the distance until you finally said go go go!!!

[@timothymorgan1175]

I played DUNE 2000,and loved the inclusion of a 4th house. A group that I gamed with worked up a DUNE TTRPG useing a generic system (not GURPS) and expanded on the Ordos from the RTS game.

[@billyd9809]

Big time player of Dune II 30-odd years ago. I remember the Ordos had a specialized tank that fired a gas which turned enemy units on to your side temporarily. I think they may have also had an Assassin infantry unit or something like it?

[@glennjanot8128]

Also big time Dune II player here. Always tell the "young players" these days that if they want to learn true micro skills, play Dune II, without any unit groups and every unit having to be moved by itself. The assassin was the Ordos' palace unit. The most useless one ^^ A wall stopped them.

[@westminster1931]

Ordos also had faster trike and saboteur unit

[@oldben76]

The Deviator was my favorite

[@universalflamethrower6342]

@@oldben76 especially good against Devastators

[@jamesperkins191]

@@glennjanot8128 That was fixed in a patch, they're meant to climb over walls

[@Daigham23]

Never played the game, but I sure do love the concept of House Ordos. It's as if they exemplify the very destination that outlawed technology in the first place. Super cool video and visuals, thank you so much, this one rocked!

[@dgurevich1]

"Observe closely this unappealing waterless ball of dust is the planet Arrakis. But make no mistake, a handful of that dust is worth your life a hundred times over" You should really give it a try.

[@DarkLorde]

I can't say I've played Dune 2 but I did play (and still own) Dune 2000! I played that game for hours and went through all the different campaigns, including House Ordos. They were so different in a lot of ways from the Atredies and Harkkonen. All the cut scenes featuring their mentat left me feeling like they were some sub-part to the spacing guild but I was making that assumption based on how the Guild reps looked in the 1984 film. It was a great game and I loved playing it!

[@toramaru2490]

Yes, i also love dune 2k. All three great houses are very unique and i just cant see an interesting relationship if it just atriedes and harkonen.

[@ahlamhossain7906]

Same with me!!

[@fisk0]

yeah, it always seemed like they were associated with the spacing guild to me

[@exposingproxystalkingorgan4164]

House Ordos is a very creepy noble house in Dune.

[@catscrath25alpha83]

Another interesting thing is that “Ordo” means order in Latin, a language we use now for science and mathematics because of how well it is able to describe and organize topics and ideas.

[@deusexaethera]

I think it's time for House Ordos to be retconned into Dune canon. It makes the story more interesting having more than just two Great Houses playing key roles.

[@MrJibbajabbawocky]

There's other prominent houses in the Prequel books (Mortiani, Richese, Vernius, etc) I would love to see Ordos added to the Gale Force 9 Boardgame...

[@mkooij]

House Ordos was always part of the dune canon which it was in the official dune encyclopedia

[@andrewh5568]

Ordos being in the board game would be a great expansion.

[@MrJibbajabbawocky]

@@andrewh5568 update: Moritani and Ecaz confirmed for next Dune expansion. :)

[@acbeaumo]

@@mkooij The Dune Encyclopedia was approved by Frank Herbert, but is still non-canonical.

[@thekronossentinel7582]

House Ordos, in the way the game developers conceived of it, seems like a fusion between the Bene Tleilax and the Ix.

[@Nuuk_Nuke_Nook]

Ordos was always a composite of different secondary houses and players in Dune, they even start to heavily resemble the Guild in Dune 2K, though they do get their own identity in EbFD

[@tomlandeweerd3747]

I played all Westwood games and what i really liked is that house ordos was run by smugglers, so yeah it makes some sense especially because you know smugglers are active on arrakis. Also that IX and tleilaxu were connected to house ordos makes sense. And that it made play the dune games more fun then only choose 2 houses.

[@DeadFilmsINC]

House Ordos is my very very favorite DUNE house of all houses. When I play DUNE 2000 or Emperor Battle for DUNE I always play House Ordos. 🖖 I even plan to make House Ordos in the game Star Trek online aka STO. 💜

[@philly83]

My introduction to dune was dune 2. I was actually surprised when I first saw the 1984 movie that they weren't in it then I discovered the lore and how ordos was mainly just for the games with the exception of the coat of arms

[@347Jimmy]

I saw Lynch's movie first, then played the game. Was absolutely shocked when Ordos weren't in the book lol

[@Marcelo83uk]

I've said it a million times on this channel and it's great seeing it written by a lot of others but Dune 2 thanks to my dad's friend in the early 90s got him a pc and helped him learn about them... He had this disc where he saved some applications for him and on that boot disk saved for me was Dune 2! I fell in love with it straight away and it was my first pc game... everything about it mesmerized me from the music, the micro managing of units and it made me go back to him and get him to tell me more as he was a huge fan and a lot older than me... From here he showed me the show V and went into more detail on the Dune universe to where I watched the Lynch version with my mum on scifi and was blown away... I have grown up with this game and the ordos being part of that... played the update Dune 2000 and would love a remake or remaster like they did with Command and conquer, I know licensing is the issue but I still play 2000.. What a game, what a universe and roll on the next few years of part 2 and the upcoming games... finally we are spoiled again :)

[@joshuaherron1584]

Westwoods Dune 2 is what hooked me on the whole universe.

[@nfboogaard]

Same! Such a revolutionary game.

[@mortanos8938]

I grew up with the first game back in the early 90s. I played it on PC and later on Playstation, although the PC version was slightly better. I fell in love with House Ordos right away since I was already in love with the Dune lore. I love their deceptive character and use of poisons and assassins and the dystopian backround. This was truly a worthy non kanon addition to the Duniverse. Frank Herbert would have been proud. I would like to commend you for this video. The presentation was enthralling and I learned a lot about one of my favorite houses. I do hope you will cover other unknown houses sometime in the future. Apparently there were once up to 157 houses (a fluctuating number). Keep up the great work 🙃 you have my like and subscription.

[@harlequinne.]

I first played dune 2000 in school in like 1999 and this brings back so many memories

[@CallmeKenneth-tb1zb]

Be mindful that _"Ordos"_ also means _"Orders"_ in Latin, as in _"The order of"_ or _"The department of"._ Yes it could be based upon the Ordos culture in Chinese history but that's a culture so obscure as to lead me to believe it isn't, especially given the European (culturally, not geographically) affinity for Latin.

[@iamsheep]

Ordos actually comes from the Mongolian word "Orda" for "camp", and is also the origin for the English word "horde": It is the name of a large part of the region in China called Inner Mongolia.

[@nvelsen1975]

Dune's setting is heavily inspired around 'the Stans' and the Caucasus though. The Ordos culture covered what's now Uzbekistan, Kirgistan, parts of Kazachstan, exactly where Herbert got his lore inspiration from.

[@alexandermenschmaschine5361]

The House Ordos must gain a position of the coolest Hose of Duneversum. This is a directive.

[@danelamoreaux4166]

Emperor:Battle for Dune was my favorite RTS game. Thanks for another great video to you and your team.

[@Ramschat]

House Ordos represents everything that god Emperor Leto II fought to prevent in the canon timeline: Dangerous technologies, mercantile exploitation, duplicity and instability

[@necrosunderground]

Man, I burned up hours playing Dune 2000, and of the three different storylines you could choose, the Ordos story was so fricken hard in the last couple of missions. But it did make me more curious about the House and where they stood with Landsraad, especially with their open embrace of questionable technology. I wouldn't mind at all seeing more of them in future productions. And I so wish we could get a new Dune game, cause I *loved* 2000. I had Emperor but I never could get it to run on my old PC, so unfortunately, I missed that one.

[@targaryen208]

Check out the new game Dune: Spice Wars. Plays more like a Civ game. Worth playing.

[@all_the_moga]

Would love the Ordos to have some promitent role in a future movie

[@DevilMaster]

I'd love a series about the Ordos. Leave the main story of Atreides and Fremen and false prophets for the movies, and treat it as background events for the Ordos-centric series.

[@davidpax]

Gosh, I've played Dune 2, Dune 2000 and Emperor so many times. Winning the game for all three houses. To bad they don't make games like that anymore. I think Westwood crashed by trying to do a RPG game, while the RTS like Dune and C&C were their real strength. Starcraft didn't have the same feel. Maybe Grey Goo is the real successor to these legendary games? I can still play Emperor on an old win XP laptop, but the Atreides drone aircraft is missing somehow, and they were so good at attacking the enemy spice harvest.

[@seano4977]

I remember playing Dune II when it first came out. It was a revelation in my opinion. Oddly though I preferred the original Dune game. I loved the music in that game and the combat system of having your Fremen warriors having to travel around the globe to battle in strategic combat. Another well researched and entertaining video. Thanks loads.

[@Jared_Wignall]

Always interesting to see another Dune video. Keep up the great work!

[@francisthepope8290]

Very seriously, have you ever considered doing ASMR videos? Your voice is so soothing, it would very likely get a lot of fans.

[@Sgt_Glory]

I just noticed that house Ordos's blazon breaks the rules of heraldry a little. In heraldry there's no exact colour for 'white'. It's called 'Argent', a 'metal' and can be depicted as white or silver. Two metals generally can't come in contact (because they'd be hard to see) without a tincture (colour) between them, this is usually achieved by outlining one with a colour. House Ordos's blazon says the shield should be gold (Or), with 'white' (argent) bones crossed in saltire (an X), with green (Vert) ivy entwining them on the upper left (dexter chief)

[@PepinoTheGreat]

I remember watching an Ordos cutscene once, don't remember where, and I felt really curious. Later on, with my own computer I tried an emulator to play Dune II and it happened to be a slight disappointment, but the idea of the Ordos in the Duniverse is full of potential, there should be something such as "Ice Power" which would make them stand out from the other houses (wind/sea power for the Atreides) like another raw or figurative resource instead of trading and smuggling with the untrustworthy reputation and mindset which would make their own society collapse. I would like to see it included in Villeneuve's work.

[@andrewthedukeMK2]

House Ordos is the Dune counterpart of these Commands and Conquer factions: GLA (Generals), Rising Sun (Red Alert), Scrin(Tiberium continuity) Let's examine, what do the Ordos and the GLA have in common? Their color is green, both factions rely on cunning strategies and sneaky tactics, stealth, sabotage, chemical weaponry. The Ordos, the Empire of The Rising Sun, and the Scrin? They are all mysterious 3rd factions, more technologically advanced than their foes. All 3 are trying to take advantage of their enemies' squabbles.

[@MetaSynForYourSoul]

Always one of my favorite factions! So glad you covered it! I view the speaker kind of like if the Borg decided to rule the species rather than assimilate them, though that's not at all accurate.

[@KingOfMadCows]

I really like House Ordos in the Westwood games, they fit so well into the Dune universe. They are the kind of people who caused the Butlerian Jihad. A lot of people think that the Jihad was only against thinking machines but the book actually says, “Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.” And House Ordos would definitely use thinking machines to control others if they could.

[@jahn-pierrezietsman2293]

I really love this channel. Thank you so much for all the awesome content.

[@Davepool-hs7vr]

Seconded

[@skylerrutherford9870]

I miss the days of playing Dune 2000 with these guys. They were always weird as hell in my eyes but their Trike Raiders were no joke

[@ordosgaming3095]

I loved House Ordos since I 1st played Dune Battle for Arrakis on Genesis 2. I never liked how Atreides were portrayed as completely good and the Harkonnen as pure evil. House Ordos is portrayed as "grey" faction. They are cold, calculative house, but no one can say that they are good or evil. They do punish for the failure, but we also need to remember that if you, as a commander succeed to take Arrakis for Ordos, they will reward you according to the contract. They keep they word be it about the punishment or about the reward. Also, in Emperor Battle for Dune, in one of the missions, Roma Atani advices the player that he\she should kill fremen if they start interfering with the mission, otherwise they should be left alone. Initially, Ordos don't view Fremen as a threat and therefore they don't kill them just for fun, like Harkonnen do. Even back in Dune 2, I remember Ammon stating that if possible, the Commander should avoid any senseless violence.

[@DoremiFasolatido1979]

On another note, I've largely enjoyed Dune: Spice Wars recently, and while I'm not sure how to go about it, I'd like to see Ordos added to the playable options. It already has the Atreides and Harkonnen as usual...but includes Smugglers (which I suppose could be considered an associate of Ordos), the Fremen, and House Corinno as options.

[@targaryen208]

Yes, we need House Ordos in Dune: Spice Wars! Great game, but it's still missing something. Very fun for a few hours yes, but it doesn't have the same staying power as Dune 2000 or Emperor Battle for Dune.

[@Kalamain]

I played the original Dune game... And actually rather liked it. I played it not too long after watching the '84 Lynch movie... It was only after reading the original book(s) that I realised how much I had missed out on. I never played Dune 2000 as I thought it was just a re-skinned Command and Conquer!

[@celladoor_uk]

This game is a slice of my childhood.

[@DeLaGhetto1986]

I would love to see House Ordos in the recent Dune movies!

[@elidnis9811]

I have been a long time player of both Dune 2000 and Emperor: Battle for Dune. Ordos has been my most favorite faction of the three. Throughout their entire campaign, they always emphasize the fact that they lack physical strength, and so they put their energy into the three things they're good at: manipulation, subterfuge and pragmatism. Their method of combat in Dune 2000 is suicide bombers, allegiance converters, and fast paced skirmishing units. In Battle for Dune, they take that a step further, completely mechanizing heir heavy units, removing the human aspect altogether. Only humans that remain are the infantry forces, whos entire purpose is to divert attention from the mechanized artillery, and rapid deployment system of drones. You would think that it'd be House Harkonnen that does the sacrificing of people through sheer sadism, but they actually deploy the heaviest of units in both games, being masters of both, defense and offense at the cost of speed. Their superweapon (Chaos Lightning) acts as the ultimate demonstration of their mastery of manipulation; it forces enemy units to ignore everything and fight each other, giving you the opportunity to strike with the "weaker, yet highly mobile" units amidst the chaos. What I also love about Ordos in Battle for Dune is how the Mentat treats you. No emotion, just pure pragmatism. She never gets angry with you, she never gets sympathetic with you. She only displays high expectation, and the matter-of-fact reality of Ordos doctrine: "Do your job, or you will be replaced with someone who does it better." The Atreides respect you, admiring your leadership and complementing it to keep you around. The Harkonnen treat you as they would treat any other slave; with disgust and depraved sadism. And the Ordos treat you with absolute pragmatism; a tool that will serve its purpose one way or another; either by being an example of what will happen to those that fail, or by securing Ordos dominance throughout the universe.

[@rask004]

I found the Ordos fascinating when playing Dune II as a kid, and their portrayal in Dune 2000 too. Now, noteing through the new Dune movies and reconsidering the books, I find the Houses to be very Euro-centric, and through Ordos there could have been a chance to portray an "Eastern" culturally influenced House of the Landsraad and how this could fit into the Imperium.

[@alastairmcleod3635]

House Ordos WILL prevail

[@biocaster777]

Failure. Is not. An option.

[@briandfox16]

This game was my first introduction to DUNE, and it also introduced a whole new genre to the video game industry.

[@DoomStarRequiem]

The dune 2000 rts was my introduction to Dune.. then I read more about it and now i love it.

[@stevengreen9536]

It would be nice to have more of the houses of the Laandsrad included in any future Dune games or media.

[@CT-Wreck]

Fun fact. If you play the dune spice wars game you quickly realize that the smugglers would accrual be house ordos, but due to lack of rights to previous games that have used the house they just named them smugglers and swapped their green with old color of house atredies

[@AxelLeJeff]

You say I have a sigma mindset? No, I have a Sigma Draconis IV mindset.

[@RyanKarolak]

Dune 2 introduced me to the Dune universe, so I've always kind of wanted to see Ordos brought into Dune more outside of the Westwood games.

[@brianrunyon266]

Nice work. If not already covered, the differences between clones, and gholas.

[@dukeleto7787]

blast from the past i am a die hard DUNE fan and i always enjoyed all DUNE RTS games

[@fredkelly6953]

If it wasn't for the game they would forever remain a footnote.

[@lordswaine5238]

My first introduction to Dune was Dune 2000. Played Ordos a lot, had the best tric.

[@Saurosapiens]

Although the Ordos region belongs to China today, the Ordos culture is of iranian origin, if I am not mistaken. So I always see the Ordos (my favorite house in the games, by the way) as a house that originates from an iranian people from central Asia of Earth. To me, the Ixians are more likely to have theirs origins linked to the Chinese.

[@j.p.ijsblok5304]

House Ordos are the Ferengi of the Dune universe.

[@dbuyandelger]

Ordos is the plural form of the Mongolian word orda (or ord in Modern Khalkha Mongolian) it means residence of khan. Usually it is a camp. There is a region in China called Ordos, which was historically 1 of 6 of the Eastern Mongol Khanate. Tumen is a decimal administrative division that can muster 10 thousand men. They joined the Manchu Later Jin, which later became the Qing.

[@cesarzoghbi4695]

I played dune 2000 for many years! After i saw the 1984 dune movie after i read the firts two bools , after i saw Dune 1 and began reading dune bool 3 children of dune and last week i saw Dune part 2

[@Concreteowl]

Ordos would not get away with its techno blasphemy. IX and Richese are barely tolerated for much less.

[@jamesperkins191]

Yeah but noone wants to go to Sigma Draconis IV

[@joeclaridy]

House Ordos reminds me of a more violent Frengei Trade Alliance with their Rules of Acquisition

[@MysteryMastery69]

I used to play ordos in dune 2. The deviators were merciless. Brainwash a devastator, make it self destruct in the middle of the harkonnen base. Repeat. Just awesome. Chew through enemy spice reserves quick!

[@FluffySylveonBoi]

Especially when you do the infamous "Deviator Trick", they are unstoppable and you turn whole enemy army into your servants permanently.

[@Floppy-1235]

What happened to those fantastic dune games? Dune Emperor was tremendous

[@Akahoshi86]

In Emperor Battle gor Dune I always played as Ordos. I just loved their design and weapons. Was a lil sad to find out they were not canon when I eventually read the books

[@jacobsternig3580]

House Ordos always. Played so much of that house in both the Dune 2000 and Emperor: BFD games...

[@Crabby303]

Be interesting to see if B Herbert & K Anderson work them into their latest tome, "Master Gardeners of Caledan - The Untold Story of The Atreides Rose Gardens, Volume 2".

[@lllFeanorlll]

I just like them because calling them 'The Insidious Ordos' made them sound bad ass lol

[@leavesinautumn5959]

Oh, I remember them. Used to play as them on that old Emperor Battle for Dune game. Unpleasant people, but interesting to play.

[@toramaru2490]

As someone who got introduced dune by dune 2k, i want to see ordos as one of great houses in actual dune lore. Seriously ordos, atriedes and harkonen competition are a lot better then it just atriedes and harkonen. Ordos felt so natural, especially with theit IX allies

[@venkelos6996]

I didn't play Dune 2000 as much as I might have liked, but House Ordos was my preferred faction when I did. I thought they were really neat; a chance to see anyone else of the Laansrad, who wasn't a perfect Atreides, or a Saturday morning cartoon villain Harkonnen. Who were the other Great Houses? Why did NONE of them EVER matter, in so many books, I thought. I also liked how they made use of dangerous, illegal technology, because obviously someone would, as a means kf gaining power. Nothing so feared could be totally abandoned by everyone, and so I thought they were fun! Think it's been about 20 years, though.😊

[@CarlGGHamilton]

Thank you for making these great videos, I played Dune and Dune 2 with my dad as a child, it was how i got introduced to Dune.

[@EnkhjinE]

Ordos is not an ancient Chinese region but a region that is an old Mongolian, currently known as Inner Mongolia or South Mongolia as a more correct term used by indigenous Mongols.

[@user-jr7vc9dp7u]

Ordos may of been inspired by a Mongolian word, but why did she make the connection that they are Chinese and used images of chinese/East Asian people? Veiled racism? (In this video, not the Dune Universe).

[@eliqfor1]

Emperor Battle for Dune was a truely excellent game . It is my hope that success of the De Vilnueve s saga will bring forth a continuation of the game

[@kipclifton9403]

Yay cookies today.

[@ianmurrah8651]

The pure FRUSTRATION when playing against the Ordos deviators is a marvel in and of itself. Thank the gods Gholas werent infiltration units...or were they the.Saboteurs?

[@FluffySylveonBoi]

Deviators are the best, especially in Dune 2, they can win you the whole war with ease in this specific game.

[@renuvatio9986]

Was hoping you would tackle the games played them all loved Emperor the best, House Ordos are the Ferengi of the Dune universe. Wish they would have utilized more great houses in the game but technology back then wasn't the greatest. Dune 2 was the first RTS that is what makes it so special. If anyone can get a hold of Emperor you should my son bought it for me wish steam would have it but the Herbert estate pretty much wants those games to fade away a tragedy. Keep the Nerding going you are my one stop shop for Dune lore we all love ya

[@Involution88]

Use of shields on vehicles opened some great instant and tidy trading opportunities. Ordos tank for shielded vehicle. Sardauker commander for vehicle.

[@Sgt_Glory]

I still have it on discs! Might be time to install it on a VM and have another play through. Mike McShane was hilarious as Baron Harkonnen, and Michael Dorn played Baron Achilles as literally 'Baron Worf', which is what my friend and I called him back in the day.

[@nfboogaard]

Thanks so much for diving into this! As a kid I played Dune II through and through, in the end even learned to hack the settings files to customize my money and starting units 😆 Some time after having played the game I found a number of "Duin" books on my father's book shelves (Duin is Dutch for Dune) and wondered if it was the same... I continued my adventure into the Duniverse that way, but always wondered when the Ordos would show up 😉😆

[@HarmonyEdge]

I was admittedly stoked that the Children of Dune minideries mentioned Sigma Draconis IV, albeit being one of the planets the Fremen committed genocide on... 😅

[@LeviTanOng]

I've always felt off about the saboteurs in Emperor: Battle for Dune. Saboteurs are suicide-bombers--and in real life, those require fanatic loyalty to a cause, and don't really match the mercenary-vibe of Ordos.

[@jamesperkins191]

They're cyborgs

[@someguy1747]

The Saboteurs atleast in "Emperor:Battle for Dune" are Gholas conditioned to perform their given task with maximum efficiency and programed with absolute Loyalty to the House Ordos alone.

[@FezFindie]

Crossing fingers that House Ordos gets added in some form, or was there some copyright issues?

[@targaryen208]

Dune lore is irrelevant, the supremacy of House Ordos is the only consideration. “Who is this creature?” - Duke Achilles Atreides to the Executrix “The Ordos, well the Ordos are just so hard to love” - Hayt De Vries, Harkonnen mentat “The Spice is powerful. It expands our sight. Our information is more perfect” - Edric O, Ordos mentat “You see nothing of the growing strength of the foul Ordos” - Fremen Naib “Rely on stealth rather than strength to complete your mission” - Roma Atani to the Ordos strategist and overseer “House Ordos will bring order out of chaos” - Roma Atani to the Imperial Sardaukar leadership

[@tigerpjm]

*"The universe of Dune stokes the fires of imagination, spurring creators in different mediums to take advantage of the opportunity to explore many of Frank Herbert's unique concepts"* If only that children's book author, Brian Herbert, had taken such opportunity. And, really, why should a video game developer have to stick to canon when the owner of the IP continually pizzes all over it?

[@jamesperkins191]

Dune Encyclopaedia canon is the only canon.

[@pdbouie]

Cut my RTS teeth on Westwood Studios first Dune RTS. Great Memories A shame RTS has fallen so far. Now let's slip the hounds of war!!

[@wastehazey6468]

Always picked Ordos when playing Emperor as a kid

[@73whitezz]

Loved the game, spent so many hrs playing it a long time ago! I'm trying to remember if it was on my old Amiga 64 or a PC I had after that. 🤔

[@gadaadyn8190]

Huge error: “Ordos” is acutely a Mongolian word for castle or royal compound. There is a Ordos desert in the Southern Mongolian region of China (Inner Monoglia) A corruption of the word “Ordos” through Russian is horde

[@jamesperkins191]

It's 20,000+ years in the future, we don't really know where the name comes from. It might well be the Mountain range or it could be some sort of corruption of 'Order'. WE JUST DON'T KNOW. It might be neither. If we went back to Engalnd around 600s ago, the time of Chaucer, we'd be stuggling as much as if it were a foreign country. The time of Dune is much, much further removed from the present.

[@Calandron1]

I would hardly call that a huge error lol

[@nvelsen1975]

Error? On your part yes... Ordos was founded by the Hetao civilisation, who came out of the Yellow River civilisation (so basically: Chinese). It is completely different from the Mongol precursor culture, the Hongshan. That's prehistoric. After that it fell under the Qin and Han dynasty of China. The Mongols didn't even exist yet. What's now Mongolia was the Xiongnu. To their east were the Wuhuan. It's only after the Yuan dynasty establishes that the region gets Mongolian influence. Next time, check something before going all pedantic against someone else.

[@VM-hl8ms]

well, they have missed opportunity to make dune 2020 - a modern remake of dune 2 and dune 2000. :)

[@TheSuperhomosapien]

Dune 2 is what introduced me to Dune in my early teens. I read the novels shortly after playing the game. Ordos had those tanks that could gas enemies and temporarily cause them to attack their own side. They were a bit weak compared to Atredies or Harkonnen.

[@FluffySylveonBoi]

Actually in the last 3 missions, Ordos are the strongest house, because they have Deviator, the best unit of all!

[@iamsheep]

Interesting Herbert chose Ordos, which is actually comes from the Mongolian word "orda", or camp. This word is the origin of the English word "horde". Ordos is the name of a city and also a plateau that is part of a region in China known as Inner Mongolia. I wonder if Herbert chose this name specifically for its Mongolian roots or simply because he liked the name...

[@Sifu-intraining]

i loved playing the dune rts games i used to stay after school in our computer club to play them

[@steverome293]

I LOVED Emperor: Battle for Dune. It’s how I got introduced to the books and the 80s movie.

[@mpizarroar]

My favorite faction from EMPEROR BATTLE FOR DUNE, their units was fast, also most of their mechanical units have shields, that regenerated after a while, so it was easy to reoved larvas from those units by attacking with other units, the speed of the laser tanks was great to explore the map and find the spice field and other resourse of spice. Also Ordos is the easiest faction to defeat the final Emperor Worm.

[@FluffySylveonBoi]

Huh? I thought they are the hardest to defeat Emperor Worm. Please teach me your ways!

[@cameronhaigh1891]

I played this back in the day. This , Red alert and warcraft

[@QalOrt]

House Ordos will prevail.

[@quentincollins1825]

I'm a hardcore Dune canonist..but I did enjoy House Ordos in the Westwood games. 🙂

[@targaryen208]

A popular view. House Ordos is a well thought out Westwood creation, worthy of Frank Herbert and his universe. Would love to see them made more canon.