The Legendary Foundations of Ancient Vietnam | University Place

Nam C. Kim, Professor of Anthropology at UW-Madison, presents new and ongoing archaeological research on the fascinating early history of Vietnam, including the ancient Au Lac Kingdom and its capital city, Co Loa.
Recorded May 17, 2023
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[@Kaikoura26]

as a Vietnamese bronze sculptor, I have been searching for this kind of information to further my work. Thank you so much.

[@thaichu3871]

It is so amazing. Thank you, Professor Kim. I am proud to be a Viet American.

[@rn1985]

I am Australian born, with Vietnamese parents. Thank you for this.

[@miming9409]

Mr.kim and your parents are truly amazing. We love u guys😊 ❤️

[@kieunga-mn1cv]

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[@1992garyd]

Thank you for this, my daughter is half Vietnamese and I want to teach her about her history!

[@byakushi2424]

Thank you for this thorough lecture! Its so hard to find something like this on the internet!

[@LinhTongVietnam]

I appreciate so much for this video. I’m Vietnamese and now trying to make content shining light on truths and facts about my country

[@acommon1]

Totally 👍🏾 enjoyed the lecture. My family and I make it to the Vietnam every so often. Love Hoi An, Hui, Hanoi, & Ho Chi Minh City and more.

[@Ian-nb9iw]

What an interesting presentation! I recently discovered a first cousin I have from Vietnam. It's so awesome to learn about this history. Gracias.

[@khoa.ngoc89]

Appreciate you so much for this ❤️❤️

[@kosalmey5028]

We are from Cambodia, and have a lot of temples need to preserve and restore, we would request you to come and help, if you have a chance! Thanks you

[@32.baotin22]

As a Vietnamese, thank you for talking about our history

[@bangle6349]

Thank you I’ll be following for further knowledge

[@nguyenbui2673]

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[@robrak3569]

Thank you Mr Kim 🙏

[@terrygiang]

So informative, thank you

[@sausidethtran4518]

Love your speech, Senior [Ong] Kim. We like your anthropological language. Mine of Great Grandfather, who was white and great-grandmother, who was of Truong (Vietnamese General of the ancestry). I touched the decimation from the European comugne. We love the hogs (Vietnamese called heo [hĕv]). My mother was from the house of Mai [the North Vietnamese royal ancestry]. You should love the words [tu (đê) from the, chí (đê) to the, văn (đê) of the or from the (Dutch), and thị (đê), of the]. I am the theoretical engineering physicist and love the freedom. My mother loved the turtle, whom she gave the sword to beat the Han domination of the past. You could love the farmers who have given food, culture, material, etc. My great-grandfather was white, and my great-grandmother was yellow-green. We love culture and people. From us, Albany of the State of Oregon - USA.

[@themantran]

Perhaps look into the culture of the Muong people to see any parallels into the ancient Viet culture. The Muong resisted Chinese influence and remained isolated to Chinese culture. You can see theirs houses are on stilts similar to the motivs of the Dong Son Drum.

[@RagingUtai]

What about the turtle of the lake that was in God of war the game. Was that inspired by it?

[@po350]

"lady of the lake" and "turtle of the lake" stories, the similarity is freaking nut. The advancement of the bronze tools and weapons created during those periods making it even wilder than one can imagine. This proves that the chinese had stole Vietnam culture and history for over 1000 years. damn those chinese...

[@thumtlnguyen3626]

One thing for sure is Han Chinese did destroy monuments and burned books.

[@user-hq3ht2hp6x]

There is a widely circulated joke in China that North China has always belonged to Korea and South China has always belonged to Vietnam. For the past five thousand years, Chinese people have been living in the Yangtze River, and Chinese are grateful to the Koreans and Vietnamese for giving such a large territory to the Chinese people for free in modern times.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@DucaTech]

No. The Chinese had a writing system. With writing, you can record information and gain knowledge and further advancement. No sane Vietnamese will say that Tet was stolen by Chinese, or Vietnamese Chu Nom was stolen by Chinese. If anything, this professor is saying the opposite where a lot of Chinese influence spread to Vietnam, Korea, Japan - for example chopsticks.

[@po350]

@@DucaTech When you stole from others, it doesn't matter how long you try to hide from it history has a way to reveal the truth. For example most recently, the Chinese trying to steal the Ao Dai from the Vietnamese. So it doesn't matter what you chinese say, a thieve is always a thieve...

[@user-hq3ht2hp6x]

@@po350 No one wants to steal the ugly ao dai.Moreover, Ao Dai was originally a product of Vietnamese imitating Qing Dynasty clothing.Just like Korean traditional clothing is a product of imitating Hanfu.China is far more famous than Vietnam and no one cares about your rudimentary culture.

[@slotmachineluv]

I mean he didn't talk about the turtle gave king An Duong Vuong the claw to made genius crossbow trigger that every time the North enemy arrives he just pulled the trigger with only one arrow and as soon as the arrow came out of crossbow it multiple the arrow to thousands of thousand other arrow to kill the enemy . it's seem like the turtle gave him an alien technology of some kind of device that people might misunderstood then

[@TuNguyen-yx5ow]

Because half of An Dương Vương story and 18 Hùng Kings from 2885 BC to 600BC are Legacy. That’s why he didn’t mention it. Stories like this just passed by mouth through out all the generations from the past till now But some sources from China history book does say Hùng King and An Dương Vương king do exist in the South and the Qin dynasty tried to take the North Vietnam and failed many times. There’s a version of the crossbow which is a replica crossbow in Cổ Loa museum - Cổ Loa Citadel - Đông Anh Town Hà Nội (15km away from the Old quarter).

[@minhtue90]

Probably it was a version of a crossbow ~ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austroasiatic_crossbow

[@calyah1530]

Ak47😂

[@just_a_guy9688]

Mfs taking myth as fact 💀

[@longmann6466]

As the professor said, the term Viet is derived from the Yue identity, and in Chinese it is called "Yuènán yǔ". However, when the Khmer people adopted the Chinese word for the Viet as "Yuen", the Viet said that Khmer are "racist" towards, when they too call the Khmer, using the Chinese term "Cao Mien". The professor is also right again that after over a thousand years, the modern Vietnamese cannot claim the connection to the original Yue people. The modern Vietnamese are practically Chinese in origin and culture. Regarding the animosity between the Khmer and the Viet or Kinh, the government of Vietnam must respect the right of the native Khmer inhabitants and grant the Mekong Delta Region of the Khmer natives as autonomous region.

[@anmai6717]

well, if follow the folk stories, An Duong Vuong commit suicide by jumping to the ocean after failing defend the country against Nan Yue ( a tributary state of late Qin, early Han) so no tomb of him I think...

[@daphuc502]

about the question about Cambodia , why do people always think Vietnam bullied Cambodia? The khmer empire and other Cambodian empires were the largest most powerful brutal empires in South East Asia , pretty much on the same level as China , while Vietnam were extremely tiny weak buffer zone between two Asian giants. Just because the Khmer empire collapsed and Vietnam conquered some lands didnt mean the Khmer were nice kind and weak oppressed people , in facts, the Khmer and Champa conquered burned down Ha noi numerous times in history and enslaved all prisoners . similar comparison would probably be Russia and China bully Mongol empires , or Poland ,Ukraine bully Germany / Soviet Russia , because their lands were parts of the later empires.

[@Intranetusa]

What was not mentioned is the Han-Chinese invasion of the region didn't start in 111 BC but rather a century earlier. The Qin Dynasty conquered the region and conquered Au Lac a century before the Han Dynasty invaded the region. Qin general Zhao Tuo in the late 3rd century BC conquered the region, decided to stay and make himself king, and created the kingdom of Nanyue. It was this kingdom of Nanyue that the Han Dynasty conquered a century later.

[@DucaTech]

Yes. It was the Trieu Dynasty. There's also Tran (Chan) Dynasty founded by a Chinese from Fujian.

[@ieatass4226]

If Zhao Tuo were to come alive today, he would find himself more familiar with Viets and Zhuangs than PRC Han Chinese.

[@ManuManu-ih7yx]

The argument that they are not the Viet (Yue), because they do not speak the same language is completely idiotic. In France we speak several languages, like so many other countries, and yet we are all French. It is with the advancement/spread of transport and literature that the language becomes harmonized.

[@thanhthuynguyen6104]

"Legendary foundation", or "Founding legend"?

[@rickiandavis]

why can't this prof move ta my red state? ; )

[@cudanmang_theog]

Vietnamese settler colonialists slaughtered 20 million indigenous Cham Muslims and the uhmah be like: huh reddit peer reviewed sources please?

[@padajsiloinepravdo6299]

So in other words you have no source from an academic historian saying that 20 million were exterminated by the Viets then ? Also Chams were not majority Muslim until the 16th /17th century after the Viet conquest of Champa had already begun . Before that they were largely Hindu / Buddhist

[@padajsiloinepravdo6299]

So you got no source from an academic historian saying that 20 million were killed in other words ?

[@vanhoang4587]

China had only a population of 50 millions around the time Dai Viet took Champa. 20 million corpes without leaving any trace? Nice try!

[@ManuManu-ih7yx]

Islam had not yet appeared there at that time, you are talking nonsense. it was the colonization of the Kmers who massacred the population of Champa.