The Legendary Undefeated Player Strikes Again

[@andregon4366]

"If you have your entire army centered around here then you can attack either side " Sun Tzu probably

[@TraderPulse]

Oh man I hope Voice of Akasha keeps playing so Mangs can make more videos about him, he is a legend

[@jollykirby2138]

hes the perfect mixture of ballsy and scheming, you expect him to practically do a bull charge right into enemy forces, and yet that was setup all along for War Crime Simulator

[@pauloninodaliva5060]

Heyyyy. Is that new animation I see??? Player turn switch and cap animations. small detail. love it!

[@iGoZeRx]

thank you for the nice video mangs :) always a joy to listen to your commentaries ! keep it up you're the best :P

[@daserfomalhaut9809]

Akasha is Mangs's burner. :)

[@perrymoser3014]

Watching Akasha play reminds me of people using algorithm learning bots on MOBAs to take on the world best teams and win.

[@BlackEyeGames]

i could win

[@cragl3yman343]

Voice of Akasha is so big brained it hurts. Holy hell that final move was fucking STELLAR.

[@stellarkym]

Yeah. Too stellar.

[@kennyly7502]

@@stellarkym Are you voice of akasha?? 👀

[@stellarkym]

@@kennyly7502 whoa. I'm quite surprised someone will actually suspect because of my reply subtlety 😂

[@kennyly7502]

@@stellarkym I'm keeping my eye on you...

[@Makkajakka]

Jamberine: Tries to capture one of Voiceofakasha's cities Voiceofakasha: "GET OFF MY PROPERTY!"

[@SSJRanulf]

Has Voice of Akasha played any of the heavyweights? He's beaten reasonable players but I'd like to watch him take on some of the top 3-5 and see how he stands up.

[@Mangs1337]

He frequently plays live matches against Jokas, who is a terrifying opponent, and has won most of those except for a single loss against him live on stream. He's played against a lot of the old monsters on the site, but afaik he's yet to challenge one of the titans. I'm hoping this will happen in the tournament he signed up for!

[@Dragonite43]

@@Mangs1337 "but afaik he's yet to challenge one of the titans." One of the titans being Mangs himself. :P

[@Lani_337]

I've actually played against jamberine twice when he was a 900. Didn't know that he has grown that much

[@MisterVercetti]

And moves like that are why I'll never reach the upper echelons of competitive Advance Wars. I would never have even _begun_ to think of a 9001-IQ move like that.

[@tora_scrolls]

29:13 “Feel free to pause the video and win the game for Voice of Akasha, while I give you a few seconds. For those of you who found it, congratulations on spotting the perfect gift-wrapping technique befitting of true grandmasters.”

[@nopomegranates9782]

"And it was in this position, on day 16, that jemberine resigned the game, as there is nothing more to be done."

[@GaussianEntity]

"Sorry about that."

[@FFF813]

Lol of course AW nerds love agadmator 😂

[@tora_scrolls]

@@FFF813 Is prerequisite

[@lasselen9448]

Well, I didn't see that one coming. I was completely thinking of ignoring the neotank for that turn and use the fact it was far from the south to push there. At no point did I consider going for the neotank kill. Sure, I'm a bad player-versus-computer player who watches pro-level matches for fun, but still.

[@HippieInHeart]

Lol, I thought the same thing. Ignore anything that's going on up there and push the south, maybe try to cap the HQ as a distraction.

[@TheCasualSubculturist]

It's confirmed, Voice of Akasha is AI designed by CIA.

[@nin10doadict]

That kinda felt similar to how a grandmaster chess game might end. Boxing in a neotank to ensure it dies next turn. Very interesting way to close a game.

[@skelehedron3070]

I thought that the "fatal mistake" was that Jambarine's weak side looked like it wouldn't hold against the force pushing against it, not getting surrounded by artillery

[@JellyMyst]

I don't think that mistake would quite have been fatal. Akasha could have pushed, certainly, and that may well have been a game-ending push, but it couldn't have happened in one turn and their respective pushes would have been racing each other on opposite ends of the map. Not that I know much of competitive Advance Wars. That's just how I would have predicted the scenario going.

[@skelehedron3070]

@@JellyMyst that makes sense, I was thinking that the game would end in a much more standard way than it did, with one player making a small mistake and being overpowered on one side of the map by their opponent, not putting a neotank in a position to be surrounded by artillery

[@FuryousD]

nah it was obvious when Mangs said did u see the mistake that he was talking about the NeoTank.

[@nikkisew]

Mangs, i like the Soundtrack a lot, you put in your Advance wars Videos. Would you mind showing which songs you used in the discription or at the end of the Video :> ?

[@paleintrovert6495]

THIS

[@Mangs1337]

I already did!

[@SonicFanDU]

Jazz Jackrabbit ost are awesome!

[@andregon4366]

I see the greatest mark of prestige in AWBW is for anyone who can change one of Akasha's 0 into a 1. What a legend.

[@Mangs1337]

It's like the Undertaker's Wrestlemania streak at this point :)

[@21Kaiser_]

@@Mangs1337 even Taker lost his streak. It's just a matter of time.😂

[@Breeelax]

I would easily make that 30-0 into a 31-0. I will be famous!

[@KhoaTran-md5ou]

@@Breeelax nah with his fight rate, you would take decade XD

[@Firemalleoandjelly]

29:47 I can't see anything other than the HQ being exposed and it might be a target. Akasha is better than everyone here.

[@swagmaster2003]

30:00 Alright, here is my guess for the winning move, I'll update this comment once I've watched the rest. Akasha can trap the neotank: infantry on the right, tank below, 9 hp artillery above, infantry above the artillery. Put the full hp artillery in range, brings his own neo to the middle, and uses his other units to tip of the walling. I know that last part isn't very specific, but this game has been deleted from the site so I can't use the moveplanner to plan the rest out, but I think I got the most important part right. Again, my guess is: infantry on the right, tank below, 9 hp artillery above, infantry above the artillery. Edit after finishing the video: I had the main idea right, I just took the other artillery and put the infantry one space to the right. I give myself a 4/5 rating.

[@crisis8v88]

I think your strategy would have worked, too, since Jamberine couldn't double attack it. If he could, then even the 10 HP artillery wall could have been broken.

[@adityaakbar2575]

sanest AWBW player

[@RoulicisThe]

@@crisis8v88 nah, because a 9HP artillery can be killed by AA+Copter while a full HP arty survives with 1 HP. That's why he used the full HP arty instead of the damaged one just to be sure his opponent had no way to free it even if he managed to open a double attack

[@crisis8v88]

@@RoulicisThe *puts on nerdy glasses* Erm, actually, if you check the damage calculator, then with one Comm tower, Olaf's AA will do 55%-64% damage to the full HP artillery on the road and the 8HP battle copter will finish it off with 57%-64% damage.

[@RoulicisThe]

@@crisis8v88 forgot the comm tower, my bad

[@mental4508]

Holy crap I didn’t know competitive advanced wars was a thing!

[@doloresmeatrestauranteater1451]

Very late comment, but when I was watching this for the first time, I sat there for like 5 minutes trying to figure out what the game-ending move was. I did actually think of the artillery box trap, but I didn't notice that jamberine couldn't wallbreak it so figured that wasn't it, and just moved on because I had no idea what it was. I'll take the half win.

[@aoisora1445]

losing a piece in chess is not always a bad thing, this game similar to chess is a situation where the position is basically that Neotank is like having an entire Queen up and then you look at your strong side facing the enemy neotank and realize that if he counters the neotank, akasha can just also get another neotank and will always be a neotank ahead and there is no counter to that now

[@pur3demon0wn]

For the Pipeseam fix, it has to be done on the awbw website's side and not the Replay Player's side. The website doesn't accurately track what happens to the pipeseam so it doesn't show it in the replay, at least that's what I think happens because it never shows a pipeseam being hit when playing the replay on the awbw website so it makes sense that it wouldn't show in the replay player either.

[@Paulunatr]

Yeah no I did not see that move. I figured the neotank was part of it, but all I saw was that Akasha could sack a battle copter for a nice hit on it. That was a galaxy brain play.

[@killerzer0x74]

It seems like Akasha loves instead of fighting multiple fronts with 2 different sets of units they go for very hard control of the middle of the map and fight with their entire army all together and then slowly spreading out across the entire map using that single strong army to pick apart the typical weak side strong side setup

[@andrewvisser8210]

I've never played a game of Advance Wars in my life, but just from watching some of your other battle comentaries over the last couple days, I was guessing that Akasha's win involved jamberine's neotank in some way. It was over extended just enough. I was certainly not expecting him to just bodyblock the damn thing, holy shit. Would not surprise me if Akasha was a military tactician irl.

[@Paulunatr]

do give it a try! it has a lot to offer.

[@VivaLaRazsa]

Playing against Akasha must feel like playing a Chess AI. You think your doing okay and then BAM 2 turns later you don't see any more possible moves and just resign.

[@Paulunatr]

he's kind of like a dragon. some mythical creature shows up, obliterates everything you have ever known and loved, and vanishes, leaving you thinking "what the fuck was that"

[@turbo8628]

I dont mind the mirror matches. Level playing field.

[@ColbyP4Fan]

SPOILERS: I guessed that it had something to do with trapping the neotank, but I thought it'd be wrapped with infantry and I said: Well, that's way too weak. But I don't see another game ending move, so that's probably it? What he did was an excellent move, and now I know that being down 22k/A neo tank is enough to end the game in a match up like this. Good awareness that a high tech unit like this can really end it all if misplayed

[@robinvanrossum4522]

Mangs how would you play the first max mission of aw2 normal campaign deathless?

[@SodaScarletMachine]

Absolute banger move at the end!

[@lilwheedle]

"And knowing this, Jamberine just resigns." lol poor guy.

[@Gold_the_Wyvolf]

Funny thing is, I saw the potential for that trap, was thinking “I mean if you can trap that neo tank for long enough it’s screwed”, but then saw the massive hole leading to the blue team hq and thought “ah! A huge mistake leaving the hq so exposed! That must be the mistake!” But nope, my first remark was the correct one but I second guessed myself. I should have learned by now that I need to trust my instincts rather than my brain

[@raulalonso2422]

I thought voice would combine the artillery to build a second neotank. I'm so used to see artillery be walled around that couldn't think in use it to build the wall.

[@napalmcannon2513]

Man I wanted to see the brutal counterattack Akasha would have made, but still a good replay

[@charliedulol]

that's the thing, he didn't have a _brutal_ counterattack, the only tanks nearby to free the neo tank so it could hit where it hurt were heavily injured, and hitting with the neo tank without moving it wouldn't make an opening, at least not one safe from devastating retaliation. hell! it wouldn't even be a counter attack! he would be attacking a wall that would counterattack him unto kingdom come. that's why akasha didn't attack the neo tank, his units needed the health to hold the wall he erected unto that neo tank, he utilised that mountain *that single mountain* as the foundation for his trap wall. brilliant.

[@Cthight]

Until advance wars for switch comes out. I recommend to look for "TINY METAL" on switch. Im playing it right now and it feels like advance wars. Its a great game and not so easy to get gold missons. Id got a few diffrent features.

[@negate3]

Incugarch vs Voice of Akasha when?

[@ScapinGames]

Jazz Jackrabbit 2 Holiday Hare Level 1 Music for anyone wondering about the music in the background

[@archrexem7274]

My geuss is he blocks the top side from coming down with a wall and caps hq Edit: Guess i was wrong :/

[@bassslinger8191]

I had no idea this was a thing. Will be starting the my way up the rankings tomorrow. I have 1k hours in the franchise.

[@NerfedFalcon]

I can't immediately see anyone else pointing it out, so I'm going to add that I believe pipe seams take the same amount of damage as a medium tank on a road would, but without any rolls for random damage, just the base amount of damage. Side note, all of the Black Hole structures in the AW2 campaign take that amount.

[@Mangs1337]

It takes as much damage as a neotank actually :)

[@NerfedFalcon]

@@Mangs1337 Huh. TIL.

[@henrymapleton]

Love these Jazz Jackrabbit music and Advanced Wars commentary ASMR

[@coldnova]

Rhythmical Bustle is a song name from Melty Blood, a fighting game.

[@wolflance64]

just found these vids, i aspire to be big brain like Akasha someday

[@AdamCarsonMusic]

i have no idea what this game is, idk what is going on... but im here for it. big brain moves.

[@zacharygreenwald4561]

Can someone tell me what they are playing this game on and how I can get it

[@keffkeff160]

Not sure but I think it's called "AWBW" or "Advanced War by Web" . At least this is what the thumbnail says...

[@Greganthus72]

I saw the following trap+wall, from top to bottom: inf, 9hp arty, tank, inf, inf. I would complete the trap with a B-copter, and maybe shoot the neotank with the B-copter. I would shift the rest of my units upwards so that a full HP arty and Md tank are in position to destroy the neo next turn (possibly with some help from B-copter or just inf luck-rolls). The rest of my units would just go north and defend my wall. Ideally my neo and anti-air are in position to counter-attack the enemy Md tank and B-copter. Edit: my top inf and arty were slightly wrong, same "mistake" as swagmaster. I probably also took B-copter damage which I didn't need to.

[@Jebu911]

damn talking about christmas and its not even december. fun match tho

[@thegoodoldays911]

Hashire sori yo kaze no you ni tsukimihara wo PADORU PADORU

[@jox4554]

At this point I'm pretty sure this guy works at google or something and is trolling us with one of the Alpha AIs.

[@padorupadoru4477]

legit thought Mangs was wearing Ayanami Rei's plugsuit tshirt

[@slyllamademon2652]

This guy: roflstomps the competition, refuses to elaborate further, and leaves.

[@FlameableMusic]

Hey, thanks for the upload! Always love the AW2 video's and casting. Regarding the pipes: in case they ever not update, have you considered video editing a break in it?

[@D3D3D]

How cold is in Norway?

[@kamdenmadan3289]

Looking at Google Weather, the Norwegian Capital Oslo is at 40F/ 4C rn as of this post and is cloudy. Has a chance of Snow and Rain tonight.

[@Mangs1337]

Not very cold in the South where I live atm. Up North it's a lot friskier.

[@D3D3D]

I wish here at the center of Mexico was colder, don't like hot Decembers which is what I mostly get with few exceptions.

[@jashloseher578]

BTFOing a neo tank with an artillery speed bump is so big brained, I love it.

[@duross101]

K, so I guess I'll play a game I have a chance of winning at

[@FunnyMemes-dr3se]

Advanced War has many similar concepts to chess.

[@kentmichaelgalang686]

sasha's theme would def put me in a christmas mood

[@cho4d]

parity: equal. disparity: not equal.

[@EGRJ]

31:00 I gotta say, Akasha is truly a master baiter.

[@MurtorSH]

Gotta love this Jazz Jackrabbit 2 music.

[@NarrowSpark96]

Dang. I figured there was a way to trap the neotank, but I wasn't expecting that move.

[@lordtyrus1]

This was my favorite game forever!

[@cicerothenekoknightplaysall]

Your videos on this game made me want to buy and play them

[@franbh94]

About guessing the Winning move: There is no way in the world I can do that. Let's move on and see what happens. About what happens *after* the winning move: I couldn't have seen that coming. Either way, I don't blame them for ff. Making the chess analogy, it would be like going against Magnus Carlsen and he traps your Queen. Are you gonna recover? Hell no, just move on.

[@VestigeSmash21]

Great to see a video from you mangs hopefully your doing well!

[@Sephiroth08150]

Well that's a good way to win a game! How to trap a 22k unit using 14k. It's... scary effective.

[@Artemas_16]

Okay, I'm noob in AW but gotta try it. If Akasha moves whole army under lower lake, he will cut off amberine from base because of a chokepoint. And amberine's stronger side reinforcements will not make it in time.

[@Jharug87]

ok i was actually considering the surrounding of the neo in the end there but i where thinking infantry and they are way to easy to plow down and get out so i disgarded the idea. MAN i was close tho never in a million years would i have thought that he would block it in with an artilery :D

[@albertmolina8186]

Olaf mirror matchup with one of Jack JazzRabbit Xmas map themes as BGM... clever. Just for that, have a like

[@HippieInHeart]

Akasha be like "Get off mah property!" lmao Regarding the game-ending move, all I can think of is that Akasha might try to go for an HQ cap with all his infantry down there and pretty close to jamberines HQ. But that's probably not what's going to happen, I'm not very good at the game. Edit: Damn, yeah, definitely would not have seen that. lmao, great move.

[@reddishgold3492]

Replays on Advance Wars by web don't record pipe seam hits. It's left out of the archive zip. It can't be fixed I believe. Unless replay archives are changed to include pipe seam hits.

[@joshuaguerrero8580]

Does any one else watch AWBW and understand the game well. But hasn’t played a single match? xD

[@musoumiko4730]

29:38 he moved the neotank too far up, so my guess is Akasha pins it to threaten a kill next turn. 1) Use the full hp arty on top to make sure that it doesn't get wall broken by high rolled luck (I *think* it matters for the 9hp one? Either way better safe than sorry, especially when you have enough damage elsewhere to kill it) 2) put the infantry beside it on the city as bonus capture pressure 3) put the tank on city below the neotank 4) move 8hp infantry beside neotank (its health doesn't matter so better to use the lower hp infantry there rather than on the wall) 5) put the 9hp artillery where the 8hp infantry was (threatens units coming for a wallbreak and also damage on the neotank) 6) move the battle copter up two squares to cover the bottom side of the flank **OR** move it up above the city to threaten a wrap-around (its kind of tricky to tell which move is better without being able to use the move planner to plot out both routes. Honestly this is the hardest unit to figure out how to place) 7) move his other tank up onto the plains below the city (not super necessary to protect the artillery but it puts more pressure on the top half of the map where its needed) 8) put infantry below city onto the forest 9) place infantry beneath copter on city between pipe seam and forest 10) move the heavy hitters (med/neo) up the middle to threaten the neotank's death and just generally have cool flexible positioning 11) finally sit the anti-air the pipe seam and put the third tank beneath the forest right above it At this point the rest of the moves are just about consolidating on that vertical line behind the pipe seam to easily readjust north or south and to make sure that any engagements jem takes are from worse terrain and putting artillery in position to shell anyone coming at the wall. Honestly looking at this replay I feel like right after jem moved that neotank they started kicking themselves because that seems like a major blunder to leave your most valuable piece completely exposed like that. Okay now that I've spent like 20 minutes staring at this paused video and writing this up time to see how hilariously wrong I was 👍 e: oh shit I was right! Lets goooooooobut I don't get why he puts the bcopter behind the city instead of two below. I realized after posting that putting it above would be bad since the neo tank could pop the arty and open up room for the aa to snipe it but I think it would've been safe and still been able to threaten in the same way if it were between the forest and the mountain.

[@Breeelax]

I nerded out on Advance Wars on GBA back in the day so hard, Rank 1 badge, all Mmissions A rank and now these videos pop up with Mangs nerding out about AW2 and high level gameplay?! I am amazed. Great videos!

[@FuryousD]

imo u should always play until the end against another opponent weather u are winning or losing, u have to have respect that u are playing a losing game and be graceful enough o accept defeat (of coarse there is always a slither of a chance the opponent will make a mistake even the top ranked players in the world make mistakes sometimes). as pirates would say the Captain must go down with the Ship.

[@Mangs1337]

I disagree. If you have 0% chance of victory, you are just wasting your opponent's time. Comebacks are possible in AW, but at a certain point it's not possible anymore. When a player like Voice of Akasha has twice his army value compared to yours, you are not going to beat him. Better to throw in the towel to respect his time and let him move on to another opponent. The yield button is there for a reason.

[@FuryousD]

@@Mangs1337 i guess that is just something that was always drilled into me as a kid, never surrender or u are disrespecting your opponents ability to win the match, u are giving them a free win when u could possibly of turned the tide, that is what i was always told and it stuck. i only yield now when facing the Ai because i know i am not going to lose and i want to restart the battle and try again without wasting my time that could be better spent trying to figure out how to do the map (not that i will be battling anyone online any time soon because the reboot camp stupidly didn't add online matchmaking).

[@jollykirby2138]

5:50 "discrepancies" mangs.

[@monsterchief117]

I knew it was the neo tank getting trapped LOL I've seen these kinda plays before where the player gets cocky and sends a lone strong unit against a bunch weak units but the weak units have their numbers as their strength. That is the biggest mistake of the match if I've ever seen one.

[@TheAleatoriorandom]

Very interesting match!

[@PICADALOL]

Yup. Do more of these!!!

[@arklaw8306]

This game is the perfect showcase of the mistake of overextending a valuable unit.

[@aristocraticcthulhu3831]

I wonder if the replay viewer's isue with pipeseams comes from them not being classified as units.

[@mathieugiroux9346]

Winter is coming.

[@michaeljonathan9715]

And then Rhythmical Bustle never heard again. Kinda weird Global League category in maps can appear, last for 17 years like Sahara, and disappear within just 1 year and some map get put into Live League instead like this one due to not balanced enough to be in GL but balanced enough in Live League despite the only difference is time limit is 5 minutes + 2 minutes increment instead 5 days initial + 3 days per turn (Edit : it's actually 10d + 2d/turn for some reason). Or get put in Live League only like "Would you change a step you take?" and never in GL despite A rank achieved.

[@sadbanshe]

Jam could have maybe sacked the two 2-Hp tanks, the 1-Hp anti air, and then attacked with his copter to kill the tank underneath the neo, thus freeing it. Maybe could have come down to a luck roll or maybe it wouldn't have worked at all, might it would have been worth at least trying it.

[@sprasle]

I found the winning idea, but to be fair you did hint it by saying it was a mistake to go there with the neotank in the first place.

[@johnadams8385]

So I admit I called the Neotank surround, saw it over-extend. Did NOT expect using an artillery for that. Damn good play.

[@doubl2480]

This guy is like a spider. Carefully setting up an invisible web, waiting for a prey to rush into his trap. Glorious.

[@entririhunter]

Fantastic game and cast, thank you Mangs!

[@Zev95]

The Santa mirror match

[@simonryv]

29:30 I Think the neotank gets trapped in the north and gets hit with a clean 10 hp arty

[@DaNr1to2]

26:02 Whats the idea behind merging these two? I only played the original ones on GBA and DS, never AWBW, but that doesn't make sense to me...

[@kingrexprime]

I did predict that Akasha could trap the Neotank, but never did I think he would trap it using the freaking artillery! Truly mind blowing!

[@mrlaz9011]

Nice seeing you here, RoyalRex.

[@kingrexprime]

You too UrsaMaximus

[@moonslashx]

You were close, the word is disparity. Parity meaning equal conditions disparity meaning unequal conditions.

[@infernoredlotus]

8 monthes passed and don't know if they fix the pipe-attacking unit invisible problem?

[@SoldierOfFate]

Though I'm a longtime AW player myself, highly competitive matches like these terrify me.

[@Tommuli_Haudankaivaja]

This map could be really interesting in fog.

[@gmichaloski3367]

OMG Jazz Jackrabbit music! Alexander Brandon FTW