The Life and Murders of Rosemary and Leno LaBianca

Rosemary and Leno LaBianca's Lives, funeral and graves - Ronnie Howard's Grave - Manson Helter Skelter Scott Michaels Dearly Departed
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[@lindafurr2404]

What terror they faced. None of this should have happened. Never let the remaining murderers out of prison.

[@brigidvanparys2062]

That is one of the hardest parts when a loved one is murdered. How scared they must of been.

[@mikepatrick5909]

only Steve Grogan has ever been paroled...don't as me why...

[@robgeorgia8801]

@Louise Gross She was never prosecuted. She testified against the others.

[@kevinmitchell4018]

U are absolutely right honey!!! None of thm bitches shuld ever see the light of day!!

[@johncitizen3927]

make murder a crime in this pussy ass country. the killers die.period. see how punishment works ???

[@michellebaker1974]

Thank you for remembering and honoring Leno and Rosemary. May they rest in Heavenly peace.

[@forpetessake3532]

IF ... they were SAVED by JESUS CHRIST. MOST rich only worship themselves and their POSSESSIONS

[@alanna8983]

@@forpetessake3532 go to hell! How dare you disrespect the dead!!

[@michellebaker1974]

​@@forpetessake3532I believe they were saved. By God 🙏

[@LeeTheVet]

@@forpetessake3532 True, but we cannot judge others as HE says.

[@SaucyWench7]

This is just incredible. The detail, trivia, matchbooks, clippings. This brings them to LIFE, instead of just paper cutouts we read about. Makes one furiously angry at the undignified horrid death.

[@tjp2109]

Yes. Best video I've seen on KZbin in a long time.

[@remmymafia3889]

Kudos to Scott Michael's for his dedication to what many consider the most heinous murder in the areas history, and maybe the country, if not the world. The random reason as to why both locations were chosen, and the total unfamiliarity of the victims and their killers. If the LaBianca's had left their side/back door unlocked, as the best account says they did, then it would have been interesting as to how they would have entered the house. At the Tate house, they simply had a window screen to slice, as the window was open. Plus, there, the area of the house where that window was, was on the side of the house that nobody was in. But at the La Bianca house, with the side/back door supposedly opened, we'll never know if a securely locked door, would have changed things much. Another hypothesis is had Leno's son Frank Struther Jr., who lived there, had came back to the house late Saturday night with Leno and Rosemary-would that have changed things? Tex and Manson would have had this 15 yr old teenager to deal with also, which might have created a wrinkle in the situation. The kid could have resisted and forced big Tex to take him out right there, which would have freaked out Rosemary and Leno, and forced Manson himself to maybe have to actually kill someone. But given Watson's maniacal (and effective) killing prowess that he exhibited the night before at the Tate house, I'm guessing a reluctant 15 yr old wouldn't have changed the outcome. At best, the kid bolts outside, and uses his youth to sprint away-now what MIGHT come into play then, would be the Ford Fairlane with five potential killers sitting in it, right. Where is it parked? Does the kid see it and them? Do they see him, and attempt to corral him? After all, Grogan is in the car, and he might have been able to corral Frank Jr., and with maybe a Patricia Krenwinkle in tow, and coming off her brutal unassisted slashing death of Abigail Folger, again wielding a knife, she starts in on Frank Jr., while Clem holds him down. Food for thought.

[@katperson1955]

They should be remembered for how they lived more than how they died.

[@leemcbride8146]

@@katperson1955 - Sounds like a fortune cookie.

[@lesliegoodman-malamuth9796]

@@leemcbride8146 My first therapist asked me, “How do you think cliches got to be cliches? They’re repeated because they’re true.” Of course we should remember the LaBiancas by their lives. But if not for their horrific deaths, we’d’ve never heard of them. (I was an adolescent, growing up elsewhere in LA County, in 1969. It’s still a most memorable year.)

[@riccali3519]

Rosemary LaBianca's daughter Susan at one point testified at one of Tex Watson's parole hearings. She felt that he was genuinely remorseful for having murdered her mother, stepfather and the seven people who he killed the night before. She was adamant that he had been rehabilitated. Needless to say her support of Tex infuriated the families of the other victims.

[@glendalangley1877]

Yea. Well Mark David Chapman supposedly is a born again Christian. I hope he is. Still there’s no way I’d advocate him getting out of prison. John Lennon once remarked he didn’t want to die at the age of 40. He was 40 when he was gunned down. There’s a lot to that story too that makes one wonder about what really happened that fateful night.

[@georgialee6755]

Yes very strange Rosemarys airhead daughter wanted him released. Tex is very evil and diabolical! He should never be released. Can’t believe she did not think about the hell her mom went through. The Tates and Leno’s kids and his ex wife were furious understandably

[@LamarJennings-eo8ps]

That monster has never showed any remorse for the murders

[@yes2day100]

They were neighbors of mine when I was a teenager. Their older daughter had been in my sister's class in high school, and the son was in my younger sister's class. My mother sold them their home. It was a horrible shock.

[@portiamatthews9654]

Thank you for sharing your story. This was indeed a horrific murder of two innocent people.

[@heyokaempath5802]

The house was owned by Leno's mother. It was his family home.

[@lorraineforte9175]

Yes2day100 Did you know the daughter wanted her Mother's murderer to go free? I couldn't believe it till I saw the video with my own eyes. Mrs Tate was livid. Do you know anything about that daughter? She must be insane.

[@yes2day100]

@@lorraineforte9175 I did not know that. She was already out of high school, as was my older sister, so I never knew she was like that. How long after the murders did she say she wanted them to go free?

[@lorraineforte9175]

Yes 2day100 It looked like it was in the nineties, because Doris Tate wad still alive. She was advocating for Tex Watson's release.

[@christyt4249]

I have always found it even sadder that the victims really became so lost in all the craziness of this case. And this is especially true for the Labianca’s and Stephen Parent. It became mostly about Manson and his minions. And they deserve no attention. So thank you for doing videos about the ones that really mattered in all of this. And telling us about their lives and not just their murders. Because it is easy to forget that these victims were real people, with their own hopes and dreams.

[@SleepyJukebox-vv9dy]

I'm glad that somebody is finally doing a piece on Rosemary and Lena Labianca. It also seems like they forget poor Steven Parent, his family was not rich or famous. They didn't even bother to call his parents, when they finally identified him

[@mariaconway4241]

Dont forget Gary Hinman and Donald 'Shorty' Shaw

[@user-nm3gd5kg6q]

@@mariaconway4241 Donald 'Shorty' Shea

[@MarciaHooley-fr7qj]

I loved the interview with Leno's first wife, Alice LaBianca. Such a sharp lady! She wrote a book about Leno's life titled NO MORE TOMORROWS REST IN PEACE Leno & Rosemary

[@MarciaHooley-fr7qj]

Steve Parent was the Ron Goldman of the Manson case.

[@NSHM122]

It gave me chills when you talked about how the LaBiancas likely had been discussing the murders of Sharon Tate and her friends as they drove home after picking up a newspaper. Never in a millions years would they ever have guessed the murders weren't complete yet and would forever be known at the Tate/ La Bianca murders. It was so random. LA has millions of people and who knows why their house was picked. I've seen the pictures of how they looked when they were found and it must have been unimaginable horror for their children.

[@katperson1955]

TheSylentTV - The LaBianca house was next door to a house where the Manson family had partied.

[@SleepyJukebox-vv9dy]

Chilling not knowing that the same thing was getting ready to happen to them

[@therealhousewifeofballtown]

That’s what made it frightening to so many that it could have been them

[@Katee586]

Honestly, I don't think there is a lot known about this couple, because Sharon Tate was so famous, her murder and of her guests received much more coverage. Just my opinion, so thank you for this.

[@jeffgarberding4499]

Manson actually got physically involved in this case. He brought if I remember correctly the same crew as the night before. This time Charlie went into the house alone. When he came out he told them what to do.. Charlie hitched home, the y went in and finished the job.

[@maureenhansen3308]

Jeff Garberding Leslie Van Houten (sp?) was new to that 2nd night.

[@thesunwillcomeoutwaitandse2373]

@@jeffgarberding4499I believe Kasabian was with them as well. I think Charlie and Kasabian left in the car and the murderers hitched home. Atkins was not ever in the La Bianca house. And, ironically enough, The daughter of either Leno or Rosemary, I'm sorry I can't remember which, has befriended Charles "Tex" Watson, the "head murderer" so to speak. She was among those who found the bodies.

[@thesunwillcomeoutwaitandse2373]

@cubomania3 The whole thing was hashed out in the book by Sharon's sister. Apparantly there were some shady doings that went on.

[@janeth.3819]

I agree

[@eej1983able]

It's crazy that Rosemary commented on the tragedy of the Tate murders THE NIGHT she and Leno were killed. Wow. So incredibly sad 😔

[@steelhurricane4041]

It's not odd, the crime just happened.

[@gloriavaldez1560]

Nice to know them as they lived instead always how they were viciously murdered

[@TheOCMarc]

It’s so strange to remember a time when phone books listed your name, address, and phone number. Any stranger could call you-but didn’t (cuz long distance was too expensive)🤣

[@ShinbiBelldandy]

And you had to pick up the yearly phone book! They were free, but you had to either have it delivered or in my case pick it up from the lobby. The yellow pages were for the residents & local businesses & later the white pages were for business!

[@bracita15]

OC marc A lot of us didn’t list our names, address or phone number in Ma’ Bell’s White Pages. I do remember when the new phone books were left outside our door in July or August though.

[@cathyhornbarger8693]

Phone books are still distributed, with names addresses and ph #s

[@cathyhornbarger8693]

kendall Evans in VA and NC

[@cathydefelice6807]

I'm my grandparents day some phone books had your occupation so you were calling the correct John Smith. We are talking 1930s...My grandfather was a Sargent in the Manhattan Police department. People were evil then also.

[@donnarama1]

I feel so sorry for the Labiancas.They died so horribly and violently.I hope they had a good life and are resting in peace.

[@glendalangley1877]

They all died horribly. They all had plenty of life to live had this evil never had touched them.

[@jennifermartin8628]

Thanks for this. As you probably know, Frank Jr. died in in Placentia in 2017, age 63. Acute respiratory failure, sepsis, cirrhosis of the liver. Poor guy. Another Manson victim.

[@brigidvanparys2062]

So true. 😢💔

[@zampieritto]

Sure manson ruined his life. Got drinking problems

[@ninamc6116]

That’s so sad

[@cindygish9064]

Oh so sad. Thanks 4 the info Yes another victim 😰

[@ritamarie2976]

Hardly anyone gives out matches anymore. Another sign of the times. Great video!

[@Melinda8162]

Rita Marie Probably because you can’t smoke in places anymore! And, if they do, they use the ole Bic lighter! 😁😒. Yeah.

[@mikepatrick5909]

But back in those days half the population smoked..lol

[@Melinda8162]

mike patrick Yeah.... I did! We all did, my friends and family. SINCE then there are quite a few ‘ no longer here ‘. It may not have been good for you, but, man those were the days! Nobody bitchin’ about everything you do!!!

[@PK-bh1ww]

@@mikepatrick5909 half? More like 90%. Watch old movies ans game shows off the 1950's. 1st thing they did (including women in evening gowns) ws light up a cig. when they meet. Game shows gave away cartons for prizes. And smoked during talk shows and game shows. My how times have changed. :-)

[@ritamarie2976]

I can remember going with my dad to his doctor. The doctor’s ashtray was over flowing and he was smoking a cigarette while he was listening to my dad’s chest. Cigarette manufacturers used to make “holiday themed” cartons. You’re correct a lot of people smoked, including pregnant women. I don’t smoke, thankfully. Because I don’t know how you can afford to be a 2 pack/day smoker.

[@saltrisha1]

You passed my little sisters grave in calvary,shes buried under the tree next to the second 3d monument you passed!

[@hollylynn9322]

Sorry for your loss Sal❣🕊

[@grammy965]

She's an angel now ! 🙏

[@Taluta394]

Sal Ramos very sorry for your loss of your sister 😢. I’ve lost 4 brothers.

[@patrickverona3098]

Sorry for your loss .

[@charlaville7658]

It's a beautiful, serene place. I'm sure there are many, many angels on those grounds

[@meaty220]

I really appreciate how you do a physical walkthrough of the locations during your narration. It makes the story easier to follow / visualize. 👍

[@user-lj4dh3xb3e]

You do a superb job telling the victims story you rally bring to life thank you

[@jodispicer683]

It’s incredible that the Labianca house hasn’t changed in all this time since 1969. Great video!

[@Madmen604]

And before that it was Leno's mother's house.

[@jamestravis1037]

I believe that Attorney Lisa Bloom (Daughter of Gloria Allred) purchased the abandoned house in 2019. Renovated and updated the home....Creepy.....I guess that it sat vacant for 50 years....No one wanted to live there....

[@dannycarrington1601]

The driveway on the left is original (there's a garage at the top of the hill) but everything to the right was added by a later owner, when the LaBianca's lived there it was a sloping lawn. A swimming pool and terrace were added to the side of the house and the front bedroom's picture window was replaced with sliding glass doors and a small patio was added. Listing photos from last year show a bathroom with salmon pink tile which appears to be original. It's a modest house without much yard space but, thanks to its hilltop setting, the views are spectacular.

[@marieantoinette6058]

Its not right. .

[@westcoastdude4777]

@@jamestravis1037 : Not correct. The house has had several owners since the killings. It has never been vacant.

[@bonjani1]

It was no accident indeed it was divine intervention that that young man did not go in that house initially when he arrived by himself.. to have discovered those bodies alone... And a footnote on Frank Struthers , Rosemary's son by her first marriage, he passed away in 2017

[@georgialee6755]

bonjani1 Frank the son could have also been a victim. That Saturday his mom and Leno went to pick him up at a Lake where he’d been with a friend and was supposed to go home with them. But luckily Frank asked to stay until the next day, Sunday. His mom and Leno luckily said yes.

[@willfade7994]

It's trippy that I ran across this randomly on August 9th. Today marks the anniversary of the Tate murders. The story still fascinates me all these years later and that all happened 10 years before I was born. Thank you for this great tour. Those people never should have died and in such horrific ways. How terrifying. May they Rest In Peace. 🙏🏻

[@Sarahbuildsstepsequencers]

Fate is such a spooky thing, isn’t it? Just going about their day, as was the Manson family, never knowing what they were headed to and how awful it would be when their lines connected…rest in peace, Rosemary and Leno. *Thank you, Scott.* I really appreciate the considerable work and research you do. And I imagine for you, it’s a labor of love.

[@lindafoster2141]

Scott, I remember when I first started hearing about you, Jordan always speaks so kindly of you. So when you closed the store, I started watching you on you tube. I am so fascinated about everything that you talk about. My Mom was a big movie star fan, musicals and anything Hollywood. I am amazed of the knowledge that you have. I cannot wait to see your next vlog!! I have a bad back, that puts me on the sofa alot. You make this old woman of 67 many a day. I thank you from the bottom of my heart for taking me places, I will sadly never get to see. Happy 4th of July!

[@SaucyWench7]

Hey Linda, being an armchair tourist can be fun too! :)

[@DearlyDepartedTours]

Thank you, Linda, very much.

[@melvynn11]

Linda FOSTER hi Linda. I live in chronic pain for 18 years now, including issues stemming from degenerative disk disease and I too am housebound and either on the couch or bedridden most days. I know how it feels. Blessings 😀🌷🌷🌷

[@ltcolumbo9708]

His tour is closed??

[@PK-bh1ww]

@@SaucyWench7 I hear ya. Isn't the internet great! I go all over the world on Google Earth. :-)

[@carmelabozulich4037]

The Manson reign of terror is etched in my brain, I was a young teen when the murders happened & read everything the LA Times printed. Everyone was scared…and these poor folks, who seemed like such decent people, drew the short straw, sadly. Thank you for bringing them to life, so to speak, again.

[@aprilgosa5779]

I can't believe they let Leslie Van Houten out

[@Decgyrrl]

I did a little reading up on them as well. I also believe that they met in 59, (I was born that December. ) I know he served his country, 4 which I sincerely thank him 🇺🇸& she was a striking woman, in her day♀. They also did a lot of travelling. It seemed they enjoyed each other's company. They would both b in their 90s now & they were robbed of that. May they rest in peace.🕆🕆🕊🕊☮

[@katperson1955]

From all accounts, they deeply loved each other and definitely deserved to live and grow old together. The barbarity and lack of anything remotely related to a conscience in these killers is impossible to relate to. Murder is the ultimate in cruel theft. They took something that can never be returned to the victims or their families and impacted their families and loved ones for the rest of their lives.

[@cynthiahusband106]

Tex Watson and one of the 3girls remaining , all are coming up for parole I believe in 2022 Sharon Tate’s sister attends the parole hearings, so the parole board (maybe they were born later then 1969, never know) to remind the board of the horrific , horrendous way these poor people died, the way they all died not even fit for an animal to be killed in the manner in which they died.God bless Sharon Tate’s sister for going to these hearing I do believe she is the only one who attends to fight to keep them ( that are still alive , Atkins died in prison) locked up forever.

[@caraqueno]

Why don't you thank the teachers that taught both of them (and, you) how to read, write, and socialize, rather than honor time spent (forcibly) in the military? The teachers are the true heroes of any society, not the soldiers.

[@glendabarton45barton48]

@@cynthiahusband106 Leslie van Houten, one of the laBianca killers, was up for parole but I believe the Governor has denied it. I don't see how anyone who did what they did could live with themselves.

[@914sandi]

P p

[@jeromejackson6111]

Leno & Rosemary Labianca, may both rest in God's eternal love & peace.

[@curtisrobinson7962]

Good luck living in your fantasy. Bless your heart.

[@breakfastsurreal5650]

​@@curtisrobinson7962I can't stand people like you. Atheists are bullies of free thought.

[@ImJustKaren_]

Not gonna lie.. when you first said "Ronnie Howard" my first thought was "The filmmaker- Richie Cunningham-OPIE??"

[@MICHELLE-gu2qc]

Me too

[@Swampzoid]

I knew her name prior from reading Helter Skelter but still I think of Ron Howard too.

[@SaucyWench7]

Yup, lol. I forgot her name until Scott mentioned it in a previous show but I still always think of Opie too, lol.

[@amybeth5776]

Same

[@hcombs0104]

Same here. For a minute there I thought they captured the teenaged Ron Howard and confessed.

[@jeanettemcdonald5779]

You really brought some life to this story, very tragic, hopefully those killers will never be released from prison.

[@donnajackson2907]

There is no way, that he remaining prisoners of this cult, will EVER be released. Other people who have committed murder, can do a term of 25 years, and be released, depending on circumstances, of course, but for someone who killed another human being, in a fit of rage, it passion, can easily be paroled in 25 years. The people will NEVER be released. Originally they were given the death penalty, but soon after incarceration, the death penalty was abolished, so their sentences were commuted to life in prison. They truly mean life!! There is always a member of Sharon Tates family present, and members of other victims families, that are there to make sure that they are never paroled. Honestly, I dont b.c. think any of them have a chance, with or without the activists, and their impact statements. The crimes were just too heinous, to ever be set free. Besides that, someone on the outside, would likely kill them. Nope!! They are staying put!!

[@katperson1955]

@@donnajackson2907 - Thankfully…I still fail to understand how people who committed a crime so incredibly brutal that they all were sentenced to death were allowed to be considered for parole. They should have been transitioned to life with no possibility of parole, ever.

[@glendabarton45barton48]

@@donnajackson2907 Governor Newsome has denied the parole for Leslie van Houten, who went through the parole hearing. She was one of the laBianca killers. He said he believed she is still a danger to society. I think it could be true because I don't believe they've ever given up their devotion to Charles Manson. Having met some of them, I can say they are some of the creepiest people I ever met, positively insectoid, almost not human. That movie about Hollywood nailed it. He got their evil zombie like essence perfectly.

[@glendabarton45barton48]

@@Soundofsilence-j4d Well I met them so I know better than you

[@debbiemoeller2169]

Still gives me the chills about the Manson murders. Just horrific. Thank you Scott.

[@janhoyle1462]

Such a terrible thing to leave for family. I’m glad Charlie died in prison! Such an evil, evil man!

[@joego7924]

He shouldn't been executed years before, woulda saved us tax payers millions!

[@septiawoman2911]

Unfortunately, Manson's death sentence was commuted to life in prison by CA voters.

[@cindienolin564]

@@joego7924 wouldn't have mattered to Manson

[@ernstvanstangl1048]

He didn't kill anyone. Not denigrating the poor innocent victims either.

[@cindienolin564]

@@ernstvanstangl1048 you're correct. But he influenced them,told them what to do.

[@debbiem9218]

Thank you Scott. I was only 11 years old when the LaBianca's were murdered but I remember everyone around me talking about the Manson murders. Your videos are always so informative and interesting. May the LaBianca's and all the other lost souls from the Manson murders rest in peace.

[@conquesotador]

My Dad’s funeral was in that chapel at Calvary in 2018. It is a massive place, and the crypts are massive as well. My husband and I walked the halls of the crypts before the mass started and saw, unfortunately, almost every wall occupied by a serviceman from just about every war of the 20th century. Very young men, some not even 20. The chapel itself is beautiful, all in marble. My Dad is in a niche in the cremation wall, and most of his family is in the cemetery as well, peppered all over. It’s a lovely cemetery.

[@charlaville7658]

You have a lovely soothing voice. Your retelling of such tragic events had me captivated with all the detailed information. It must've taken you such a lot of work to put this video together. Thank you so much for sharing. I can't believe the death penalty was abolished when manson & his mob were all caught - that makes me so unbelievably angry. Because of those devils, so many beautiful people had their lives tragically cut short. By telling the LaBianca's story you've allowed others to see what lovely, normal people they were. Just going about their everyday lives - it could've been anyone who was targeted. It really makes my heart weep for those poor people.

[@lisellesloan3191]

As I recall, Rosemary LaBianca was a Mexican orphan who was adopted. She was an American success story and, alas, an American tragedy, as well.

[@puddysue]

Thank you for the great information on Rosemary and Leno. Never heard anything much about them, other than the horrible way they died. How awful that these people and their family had to go through such horror.

[@-Garviel_Loken-]

Corporations have ruined the charm of the city. No more interesting restaurants or bars, Starbucks and banks.

[@mikepatrick5909]

That's happened everywhere...we live in a global economy...

[@zampieritto]

No more charm

[@litaperna1128]

You honor by making them real and not just grisly headlines. Thank you for your respect.

[@sandyc.5017]

You did a great job on this. Never knew much about them. So sad. Thanks for keeping their memory alive.

[@no.3royston612]

A great vlog. The LaBiancas often get forgotten about so it's nice to have more details about them. Laura x

[@glendalangley1877]

Not really. It’s always been referred to as the Tate/ LaBianca murders.

[@leval1000]

Gary Hinman is the one that’s never remembered tbh.

[@sandysmith6178]

Thank you Scott for a beautiful and for remembering the victims. I enjoyed the video. It just makes me so sad to know how brutal the murders were on all of these victims. How they begged for their lives.

[@zukosmom3780]

Makes me sad that buildings are torn down. It’s so depressing. That’s so sad that they weren’t buried together

[@MicheleMJJ]

What a fantastic and respectful video. I had never seen pictures of the LaBianca's anywhere when they were younger. . Such nice people with a great life. So very sad their lives were taken for no reason. Just the evil ways of Charles Manson and his family, I feel bad for all murdered at Sharon Tate's home too. So many good lives taken in the prime of their lives. I was 15 when this happened and I will never get over the shock.. Still today it breaks my heart for all the victims. They will never be forgotten.

[@vivienap]

I must say, out of everything I subscribe to on KZbin I most look forward to your posts. They are very well done with so many interesting details. I also appreciate how you present the facts in a non- judgemental way. Always looking forward to the next post!

[@LeAnimal65]

Thanks for making & sharing this video, Scott! I thought I had seen everything related to their murders reading Helter Skelter & watching your 6 degrees DVD (which I've watched at least half a dozen times) but this was even more informative on the couple as people, not just victims. Too bad they couldn't have stayed at the lake 1 more night...

[@psychcorp4449]

Scott's ability to collect memorabilia and information is unmatched. This video is a wonderful follow-up to "6 Degrees of Helter Skelter" which is a tremendous production. Thank you so much for your dedication to making interesting videos which preserve the memories of the locations and people presented. Stay safe and be well.

[@remmymafia3889]

First, thanks to Scott, for taking the time put together these great, detailed oriented videos. Specifically, his recognition of 1969's Manson murders, over the course of two nights in LA. His Jay Sebring video, was incredible- traveling back to Jay's hometown among other efforts by Scott. This one here, is also off the charts. Rosemary working at the Brown Derby in Los Feliz, her two children from a previous marriage, and their movements during the tragic night. I mean, the revelation that her 17 yr old son, who lived at the house on Waverly Dr., and could have been murdered along with his mom and step father Leno, except for the fact that he stayed overnight at the lake, where they had been boating. The son, coming upon a darkened house, with the car and boat parked on the curb,.... in the dark the next day? (Sunday) He did the right thing, by not even attempting to enter the home, as he was aware of the Tate murders that were all over the newspapers that day. Incredible detail Mr. Michaels.

[@rhiamonday456]

I always felt sad for the kids having found their parents brutally murdered! No one should have to go through that!

[@markjoll4825]

Thanks, Scott and Co., for these really great vlogs about the LaBiancas and Jay Sebring. It's really nice to see their humanity given back to them.

[@niallmcdonagh1093]

This is Pulitzer quality...memorabilia, phone book records, photos, certificates....so much work effortlessly pasted over the actual present day sights...a KZbin classic!!

[@TheScarlett618]

We have a Brown Derby drive-in restaurant in Shawnee, Oklahoma. It's been there since 1956 (same family has owned it all along)

[@pdxer8895]

So Sad. Victims that would have normally have been forgotten. Thanks for giving them a life.

[@hollymartins6913]

I find it acutely disturbing that they read about, and were, of course, horrified by the newspaper stories of the previous evening's horrors, on their way home to encounter the very same killers. The whole thing is just wrong on so many levels.

[@aaronsalcido90]

My mom is buried at Calvary Cemetery and you captured where her grave is @14:58 (near where the taller Pine tree is at); She died in 1997 at age 33.......

[@Taluta394]

aaronsalcido90 so sorry for your loss. 33 is too young to die! My youngest child is 32.

[@cindienolin564]

Awe sorry for your loss and way to young to die. My dad passed in 97' 58 to young also

[@lindamaemullins5151]

😢🙏

[@glendalangley1877]

I’m so very sorry. That is too young to pass away.

[@ronaldroberts1992]

Thank you for the video....such a very sad and sickening time in history and my prayers go out to those who were affected. Take care.

[@tracyquinter8874]

Scott you and Troy never fail to give fresh and new insight. Thanks so much for all you all do.

[@colleenallen3382]

I remember this very vividly. I was in the Hollywood Hills the night Sharon Tate and friends lost their lives. It was frightening! I also remember the LaBianca’s. I didn’t know of the funeral arrangements, I found that information of interest. Requiescat in Pace. Mr. And Mrs. La Bianca, Rest In Peace.✝️

[@sixxrachel]

Subscribed after seeing the Jane Mansfield video. I am now hooked on your videos, also this is a great idea to show us how a victim’s life was before and after death, can’t wait for more!!

[@loriepostlewaite162]

Sad they weren’t kept together after they died...thanks for sharing

[@temeculajoe]

Have you ever done a vlog on the "night stalker "? That case really had the whole area of Los Angeles scared

[@bracita15]

temeculajoe I was 22 years old and just happened to be in East LA on August 30, 1985 trying on a bridesmaid’s dress in a little dress shop. Suddenly, all hell broke loose outside. Police cars were flying down the street with their sirens on. One of the LAPD choppers was over the area and a lot of people were running. My sister and my Godfather went outside to see what was going on and someone told them that Richard Ramirez aka the Night Stalker was in the neighborhood where he got his ass kicked and was being held down while the cops arrived. Go East Los!!! 😂 As soon as I got out of the dress we went to the area close to the Hollenbeck Police Station where he was being held. Millions of people slept better that night.

[@christystewart4567]

There was an “Original Night Stalker” who started before Ramírez but his crimes weren’t widely known. He only became original after Rameriez got the name though he was referred to that before but not widely. He’s now known as the Golden State Killer.

[@Gloria-ro4vn]

The Manson killers didn't know who or how many people were in those homes. I've always felt that if there were children in either place, those monsters, wouldn't have hesitated to kill them.

[@blueeyedwolf2205]

A friend of mine is related to Leno. He remembers the day his family got the phone call. Also, that restaurant by the Chase bank there on Los Feliz used to be called Michaels. I used to eat there in the 80's.

[@ritarizzo9317]

I just got the book by Alice LaBianca “No more Tomorrow’s “ in the mail today (I ordered it off of Ebay a few wks ago after watching this video!) can’t wait to read it👍🏼

[@QueenlySweetpea]

So how was the book ? It's been a while now that you've read it, but you probably remember quite a bit of it's contents ..

[@ritarizzo9317]

@@QueenlySweetpea I’m STILL reading it !! I started it and then get sidetracked (I have 4 kids,2 dogs ,&2 kittens) they all distract me!! Lol But thank you for this reply bc you reminded me to go pick it up!! The first 2 chapters were good! It’s basically about Alice & Leno’s beginnings!!

[@agirlwholovesjesus]

Thank you for remembering the LaBiancas. Too many times, when a famous person dies in connection with the nonfamous, the "star" is the only story. Or, as in this case, the perpetrators end up becoming celebrities. This in no way is meant to demean Miss Tate's horribly vicious death, but she was one of six human beings that were slaughtered that night, including her son.

[@ninamc6116]

Paul Polanski would be 51 years old now. That puts this horrible thing into perspective.

[@celiagorleski2716]

The process for the son to go and call his sister and for them to pick him up before they went home makes a lot of sense. The son knew something wasn't right and I'm sure he did not want to find it out by himself. He would have become the first suspect.

[@katperson1955]

Not to mention the psychological impact of seeing what happened by himself…

[@ewilliams2268]

Also those next few days everyone was one high alert after the Tate murders.

[@baileyclark8483]

Frank was only 15 or 16 years old he was definitely scared.

[@dukeofhaas]

We are so digging your vintage matchbooks. Glad to see you are a proud phillumenist!

[@photographingtoronto2350]

What a lot of work you've done on this video! So often murder victims are just names, you have really brought these two real people to life. Thanks for you incredible research and narration.

[@p47thunderbolt68]

Heard the " family" used to practice breaking in homes . They would stand over beds and watch people sleep then leave . Never hurt them . Just watch sleep .

[@shadowwolf7622]

Yeah, they did. And moved furniture around.

[@magz98610]

Creepy crawling

[@Taluta394]

P47 Thunderbolt creepy crawling they called it ,,,, insanity is what I think it was

[@reginastoltz5974]

Creepy crawling.

[@paulinejordan6905]

@@shadowwolf7622 And helped themselves to something to eat

[@janmarchand7294]

You da man! Always here for your videos. I first read the Helter Skelter when I was 14 that was in 1974 and for the first time I realized just how cruel random people could be. I believe it shaped my life into a cautious one as I really don't trust everyone I meet. It's like I can pick up vibes on a person and my senses scream get out immediately. I do believe this has helped me out of a few bad situations growing up. Yep, good old 1969, the year America lost it's innocence.

[@oliverwhisper]

Always so interesting, and that soothing voice.

[@dianabeurman364]

Yes!! He has a great voice!

[@lilebb1657]

I agree

[@henrygonzalez504]

How wonderful of you to share with us the absolutely normal lives of these two tragic figures actually humanizing them for a change. BTW. I know Calvery Cemetery very well as my Grandparents and father are laid to rest there. Thanks Scott. Great work, as usual.

[@chrissyknowsitall5170]

I just found this channel yesterday and I absolutely love every video. You put so much time and caring into all of your videos and talking about all the people. You really care and it shows. Thank you Sir. RIP to all of the Souls that lost their lives on those 2 horrible nights back in August 1969.🕊🕊🕊

[@donnaturner9762]

Even 51 years later this series of vicious crimes still fascinates....at first I thought I was twisted...reading every book and watching everything I could about the Manson family victims (including the Dearly Departed Scott Michael's tours and DVD). Turns out I'm one of many with this same interest. Thanks, Scott for feeding my somewhat unusual obcessiobsession. Videos are very informative...even after reading so much...thank you! See you when touring starts up again...be safe!

[@pamelaJoyce384]

Very interesting. I don't think I've ever seen Mr. LaBianca's grave before. Such a shame they were not laid to rest together

[@freebird4863]

Thank you, Scott, for your incredible vlogs! I love the history... the in-depth information, and the fabulous way you speak and share artifacts and pictures of these historic people and places. Wonderfully done! ❤️

[@64098]

This is a fascinating channel, I always find out something that was never reported before or included in standard accounts of these cases. It was nice hearing about their pre murder lives.

[@13SIXTEEN]

You do a very in depth and detailed vlog , good job and nice to see someone dig deep

[@jn8ive60]

"Does that make sense to you?" Yeah, if you theorize that Frank Struthers Jr. didn't know if his sister were working or not, and had to take a 50-50 chance, or if for some reason he thought she was working but she wasn't. And further theorize that he had used his only dime to make the call, and so wouldn't have been able to call her apartment once he was told she wasn't at the restaurant. I remember those days, being dropped off at the movies and parents making sure we had a dime to call once the movie was over. Pay phones. The good ole days.

[@gregman1715]

MAN SAD THEY HAD HOPES AND DREAMS ONLY TO BE TAKEN AWAY FOR NO DAM REASON GOD BLESS THEM🙏🙏

[@frankied6440]

Another excellent video by Scott Michaels. Thank you for keeping the memory of the LaBiancas alive for all to see.

[@Ajae78]

I’m a longtime fan and avid reader of Find a Death, so I’m elated to find these videos! I love Scott’s take on all these famous crimes and am loving all this great footage. It’s a shame Los Angeles has no sense of history and tears everything down. Or replaces it with a Chipotle.

[@elizabethcox4695]

A good friend of mine went to high school with Susan LaBianca. She knew the family. If the LazBiancas hadn't come home that night, they never would have been brutally murdered. RIP

[@Mike232-j2p]

There is no should of could have would have when it's your time how when and where no one knows

[@tillitrueheart971]

Another great vlog! Thank you so much for your respectful coverage of a horrific tragedy.

[@sharonletchford9375]

I appreciated watching & learning about Mr & Mrs labianca how very tragic all of these murders were & the pain left behind for the friends & family of these beautiful people.

[@judithgannon5642]

My friend and I were college girls vacationing by traveling the length of California. We were in San Francisco watching TV in our hotel when we saw the Lennon Sisters father was gunned down in his driveway. Back in the day, this was pretty much unheard of and we were a little apprehensive about Los Angeles, our next stop. We had just arrived in LA when the Tate murders took place. Then the La Biancas. People today cannot understand how shocking these killings were. Unreasonable slaughter is almost common news now, but once there was a time it was unimagined. And it took place in peoples homes! Average Americans couldn't process it, yet for the first time felt a particular fear. Nothing was the same after this.

[@chrishutchinson2297]

I just finished watching this video and the Steven parent visit video. I really didn't know much about these people just that they were murdered by the Manson family. I found it extremely interesting. You did such a wonderful job of bringing the whole story to life. I remember those days well. And goodness I was a few years younger than the Manson girls but one of them grew up in Westchester which is where I grew up. Thank you

[@lrunning1]

Lou Costello's daughter was married to Gregg Jakobson who was involved with Manson's supposed music "career" and testified at Tex's trial. Spooky to see his memorial.

[@gator2813]

@Thomas Farrell You can add Steve McQueen's name to that list too.

[@FLStelth]

Labianca was in debt and was a chronic gambler. He also was embezzling from the supermarket.

[@FLStelth]

@TermsofService They may explain why Rosemary's daughter made the cremation decision.

[@FLStelth]

@TermsofService I never said it had to do with either. And the video mentioned the funeral which is what my response is about. Why are you hounding me?

[@FLStelth]

@TermsofService The daughter's anger at her step-father could be a reason for Rosemary and Leno not being buried together. You are the one bringing up conspiracy.

[@chrisharris7931]

I just became a patreon as a thank you for creating one of the best rabbit holes on the internet. I've been a fan of findadeath for at least 20 years. You're a great story teller and there's a lot of dead celebrities that still haven't been posted on your old site. Just saying...

[@cookingartguy2170]

Love this one especially Scott! This is the kind of stuff that we live for. So glad I got to see the museum before it closed.

[@lisabradford8180]

i wonder if the labiancas realized that the people in their home were the people who commited the previous nights muders? gives me chills to think about that. and saddens me 😢💔

[@katperson1955]

Even the police didn’t connect the murders immediately so I doubt it.

[@lisabradford8180]

@@katperson1955 i hope you're right. to think that they were just talking about what happened the night before with the newspaper vendor, then to be confronted by the same killers is too much to wrap my head around✋and the vendor said that rosemary was particularly upset at the news of what happened at the tate house, as i imagine everyone was.

[@katperson1955]

@@lisabradford8180 - I hope so too. Their murders were horrible enough without that.

[@squinkque]

I read the book Helter Skelter years ago so I forgot that their kids were from different marriages. When you first said they met in '59, I thought how could that be? They had teenage kids (and older). Then I looked it up at another website and saw they had a mixed family. What a tragedy all around. Reading about Frank Lynn Struthers, it doesn't sound like he ever truly recovered from this crime. I don't believe any of the murderers should be paroled.

[@tjp2109]

This was wonderful to watch. I loved the vintage matchbook covers (I'm a collector also). I also loved this history of vintage L.A and past/present locations. Thank you.

[@renaldcosma7192]

I try to watch all of Scott Michaels videos , Its like taking Hollywood History classes from the best, I grew up in West Hollywood and Scott really knows his shit Hes obviously an expert in this semi-rare field

[@cheyanndoyle1688]

Thank you Scott for this great channel

[@wht-rabt-obj]

Wow...Frank Jr. had a gut feeling something was wrong at home. Good job to follow his gut feeling. Poor kids, finding their parents like that. 🥺 Do we know what happened to the kids, Susan and Frank Jr.? Where did he live after the murders? Did Susan look after him? Are they still alive? EDIT: I just looked it up and saw Frank Jr. never married and died from complications of alcoholism in 2017. Bummer.

[@portiamatthews9654]

Scott always make the stories so incredible, in my opinion. During the first couple of days during the quarantine I just binged watched his channel. Thanks Scott 👍😊 for creating a fantastic channel. I appreciate all of the time and dedication that you have put into your channel.

[@spokanetomcat1]

I lived less than 2 miles from the murder site. When my sister found out she locked up our house and we were stuck in the house for days. My mother drove by their home everyday she went to work.

[@stp7907]

That Derby bar was also where they shot the final dance scene in the movie Swingers. I loved going there, way overpriced even then, but great live music. The Dresden was the spot for me though.

[@bigdaddy2343]

Why are They trying to Destroy all of Old Hollywood?

[@stp7907]

@@bigdaddy2343 because greed and it’s heartbreaking.

[@renayconner7171]

Love all your videos scott,god bless you and your family

[@katrish786]

Thanks for making this video and doing the research. I noticed on Veronica Lopez death certificate that she also died by homicide. Sad.

[@ladnarfilms5201]

I can't begin to imagine walking into a house and finding my parents dead. I just wonder though, if the daughter had tried calling them before they picked up the brother and went over there?

[@nassauguy48]

I cannot believe that same daughter is now advocating the release of the killers.

[@ladnarfilms5201]

@@nassauguy48 Yea that's crazy

[@gilliscolgan4356]

@@nassauguy48 Sharon Tate's sister won't permit it.

[@cindienolin564]

There must be a reason she wants them out..maybe revenge? Idk just wondering

[@lindamaemullins5151]

@@cindienolin564 🤔🤷‍♀️

[@kimberlyhood4095]

Thank you for giving the victims a voicee, after listening to a few interviews with Charles Manson the man got way too much credit for being the little weasel that he was! I want to know the beautiful people he had snuffed out in the prime of their lives!