As time goes by, we might see bikes evolve by years, but you can always surely see cannondale Supersix shines every year!
@JNorth874 ай бұрын
Best Frame ever made if you dont need more than 25mm tire in the rear.
@zoso733 ай бұрын
Not every year -- this frameset is no newer than 2020. This is the classic race geometry inspired from the CAAD framesets.
@michaelwatkins41982 ай бұрын
@JNorth87 that frame fits a 28mm no worries...
@logojones963 ай бұрын
1 year on the disc and hes back on the rim for the climbs!
@DurianriderCyclingTips3 ай бұрын
Rim FTW! PS: Set up that righ hand brake pad higher on the rear please. ;)
@chrisvanbuggenum8714 ай бұрын
As a rider of a 2012 supersix evo ultimate, its always good to see a traditional rim brake hill climb bike.
@yonglingng56403 ай бұрын
There was one time I was in a bike shop and saw a second-generation SuperSix EVO. Not only is it still brand new, it's also my size! I was shocked speechless at that time.
@gravelDave4 ай бұрын
Give Andrew a hug please.
@swites3 ай бұрын
5kgs! Pretty incredible. Always wondered how a bike this light would feel next to my 7.6kg one. That rim brake bike is a work of art really. Love the simplicity of the brakes, seat post, stem, and handlebars. All easily adjustable, fine tuned, or changed at home in a few minutes really. And also love the fact it doesn't look like all the other modern bikes with the drop seat stays etc. Those colourful anodised brakes are also another nice touch against the matt black frame.
@sapiens78214 ай бұрын
Pure Roadies those in the know from the rim brake era Cannondale Supersix Evo Is what a bike should be, light, fast, agile, responsive, great in high winds. These are like hens teeth now. Would love to see Cannondale make an anniversary rim brake edition.
@ejw43003 ай бұрын
yep. nostalgia is high with this bike
@JoshuaTootell3 ай бұрын
I don't ride mine anymore, but I won't sell mine either.
@zoso733 ай бұрын
Having owned every SuperSix EVO since inception (and the original SystemSix and the Six13 before it), and having ridden every CAAD up to the CAAD12 ... i've gotta say the CAAD12 (rim version) is the best of the bunch.
@sapiens78213 ай бұрын
@@zoso73 I agree the CAAD12 feels well balanced, makes you want to get out the saddle and give it some.
@samhamfast4 ай бұрын
I ride a SuperSix Evo with disc brakes but I've got to say that I love this classic rim brake bike.
@FL-ym6hm4 ай бұрын
Love the Super Six. What a purpose built machine. Damn!!!
@Ey_up4 ай бұрын
More Jack Luke! More niche steel bikes with rim brakes! Thank you. 😊
@SuperCanonshooter7 күн бұрын
I have two caad 12’s because I love the frame design so much..really fun feeling ride too! But I’d love to have a lab71 just to experience that level of responsiveness
@danielPrologo14 ай бұрын
Always rim brake
@JPGENARI2 ай бұрын
How would rim brake work on carbon wheels? I heard braking power is not the same and they pads wear off quite quick and in time, might even delaminate the carbon. I'm be wrong though.
@danielPrologo12 ай бұрын
@@JPGENARI the carbon wheels the only defect is in rainy weather. Personally, I have several pairs of wheels to change during the seasons but the only advantage I see in discs is that they don't break the wheel's braking track, but for the rest, rim brake bikes are better in every way, the bike is much lighter, less maintenance, there is no noise from the disc touching the pads, in fact those who have disc bikes only think about brake problems, unlike rim brake bikes where we don't even remember that we have brakes.
@JPGENARI2 ай бұрын
@@danielPrologo1 in fact, I have my bike for 4 years, never had any issue with its brakes (105 rim brakes) and never felt lack of power when braking. As said, my only concern was regarding upgrading to carbon wheels and facing the problems I mentioned - by the way, could you explain more about 'they don't break the wheel's braking track' ? - hence I'm on alloy rims. When I get a new bike, I will have to get it with discs cause I'm planning to get a Di2 which doesn't come with rim brakes anymore.
@filipsoltys55044 ай бұрын
5.080 wet. Reckon its sub 5 if you dried it off
@marklydall86354 ай бұрын
ditch the power meter/di2
@jheiethutz4 ай бұрын
@@marklydall8635 and change it to sram red 22 . big weight savings
@timtaylor95904 ай бұрын
andrew rides a lot racking up koms all the time he uses this bike, for racing he has to use the disc for his sponsors. that says something
@wrcompositi4 ай бұрын
I don't understand the logic of "parts bin build" on a heavily modified frame. Although a 600g modified SS evo frame is impressive, but a stock frame without paint is already as low as 700g. Instead of shaving carbon from the frame, there are apparently many low hanging fruits to reduce the weight of this bike. Lighter parts such as THM, Darimo, custom wheels, custom saddle-post one-piece combo... Are flat bar bikes allowed in UK hill climb races? I've seen many nice sub-5kg bikes for these races, but not spotted any flat bar, which should save some more weight.
@mircozelle3 ай бұрын
i assume he wanted to have it built quickly. this way, he can test ride and then decide which parts he wants to put on. he doesn't seem to just be counting grams for the sake of it.
@Hoops1762 ай бұрын
All your bikes were made in Taiwan or Asia. I have 29 bikes. Few were made HERE.
@straightcirclee4 ай бұрын
What a coincidence i just watched your winning bike with disc brakes in the Struggle national hill climb 2023..
@Epson50004 ай бұрын
fitting surname
@jameswojno12164 ай бұрын
nominative determinism at work!
@nickredvideo3 ай бұрын
39-28? Man he must be strong.
@chrisdelaplante55153 ай бұрын
The guy is one of the best climber of the world.
@ScottCopeland-yh9lm4 ай бұрын
Great chat on Path Less Pedaled. Well done on your channel. I think you might have something here.
@pierrex32264 ай бұрын
Would be very curious to see testing between the two bikes. That lab 71 was stupid light already, so then maybe it indeed is faster because it's stiffer? But also that supersix rim was peak rim brake, so may have been plenty stiff? The tyres would have to the same ofc to mean anything. But really, really cool build. Fitting for a boy named feather, too.
@jheiethutz4 ай бұрын
yeah .that LAB71 is light. but that model of SSE HM is lighter. i think he answered why he didnt chose LAB71
@BikeLife1544 ай бұрын
Supersix evo every time!
@PeakTorque3 ай бұрын
Sorry what calc or software are the company using to measure wall thickness?! What you showed is a 3d scan of the outside
@barneybromhall31593 ай бұрын
I would assume ultrasound points mapped onto the external scan and projected inwards to create internal surfaces.
@bikeradar3 ай бұрын
Oscar went into more detail in his written piece, but an ultrasound depth check shows them where they can skim off some carbon - www.bikeradar.com/features/pro-bike/andrew-feather-cannondale-supersix-evo
@PeakTorque3 ай бұрын
@@bikeradar nice!
@andrewsiasparks4 ай бұрын
If you're racing up a hill do you really need brakes?
@rob-c.4 ай бұрын
Hill Climb rule dictate you have to have them
@zoso733 ай бұрын
11.2 pounds. 🤣🤣🤣 Amazing!!! Rim Brakes Matter!
@ericsyd4 ай бұрын
Not sure I get the logic of removing 200g of carbon fibre from a frame but keeping a power meter.
@kovar23443 ай бұрын
especially a heavy spider one.
@tcctcc37854 ай бұрын
So he is switching back to rim brakes eh?
@clintnieves2 ай бұрын
There’s a reason why Andrew keeps coming back to a Cannondale generation 2 SuperSix Evo
@roa53594 ай бұрын
I guess it doesn’t hurt so much if your frame breaks when you ride uphill 😂
@borano20314 ай бұрын
Front mech plate still there!! Rgr
@rob-c.4 ай бұрын
As it’s riveted on, it’s probably structural at this point! 😂
@borano20314 ай бұрын
@@rob-c. A bandaid is lighter and would do the same job!! Rgr
@spieler4402 ай бұрын
Went back to rim brakes
@emiliogirelagonzalez18093 ай бұрын
I have the same brake from alixpress, brake good, not as same at shimano, but for the price and weight its worth it.
@andymoss42853 ай бұрын
That cassette looks like it has some excess metal. Job for next year?
@cauldron1014 ай бұрын
Those Cane Creek rim brakes although they look gorgeous, at $400 or more they certainly leave some sour taste.
@yonglingng56404 ай бұрын
They can also damage the down tube of some framesets when it's steered all the way. Shimano's rim brakes at least have a rubber bumper, the eeBrakes are just aluminium ramming into the frame.
@dazza9129Ай бұрын
he does not need the brakes though when he intends to only go up. 🤣
@germurphy49864 ай бұрын
SRAM Red mech and a THM crank it would be 4.5kg
@javabk4 ай бұрын
I built an aethos at 5.15.. remove the bartape as he has, and it’s the same weight.. disk clincher wheels with original paint😎
@yonglingng56403 ай бұрын
No plugged handlebar ends?
@lannym3 ай бұрын
My SuperSix Black Inc frames is 680 grams without any mods. (size 52). Complete build is 4400g...including 50/34 SiSL2 cranks w/ Stages (RIP)....
@aidesbnlee54224 ай бұрын
Wanna get a pair of carbon rim brakes wheel set. Wanna ask you all will it harder to brake when it is wet?
@xfg0074 ай бұрын
Yes I would not trust going downhill in the wet with carbon brake tracks
@aidesbnlee54224 ай бұрын
@@xfg007 Guess I should keep using my aluminum wheels
@danc18293 ай бұрын
Depends on your wheel and pad combo. My campy Bora wto wheels with campy red pads are great in all conditions wet or dry no issues 4 years on now
@Gufolicious4 ай бұрын
new one all the way. that one is basically a single use case while the other is ridable everywhere.
@JonFairhurst4 ай бұрын
For the real world, I’d take the Lab 71. The lighter bike would be marginally better going up the hill, but the aero, disc, solid yet compliant bike would give me much more confidence on the way back down.
@jesmondo57854 ай бұрын
Sounds like Jen from IT Crowd saying computer
@vonWeizhacker694 ай бұрын
sehr schöner hobel!
@Chris-xv2gm4 ай бұрын
Brakes look low on the rim.
@Ninjump3 ай бұрын
I had a supersix like that, regrett selling it to this day😢
@millermiller754 ай бұрын
I want to see some lightweight shoes. And drilled out helmet.
@TheFlonke883 ай бұрын
Sram Red 10speed and dry it from the Rain. You will go to 4.7kg
@gur2624 ай бұрын
But what about descending? MTB got slacker. Motorcycles are slacker. I wonder if a longer slacker rigid bike with 2.0-2.4 slicks might be much better descending. My commuter definitely felt very nervous above 50 kmh. My rim brakes weren't the issue either but grip and the point of going over the bars were limiting, with 1.4 Tyres. Need to see a hillbomb bike. Perhaps a rigid Xc mtb with wtb thickslicks?
@yonglingng56403 ай бұрын
Bikes with more fork trail are indeed more stable at higher speeds. Road-oriented bikes have shorter fork trail to quicken steering response at the cost of high-speed stability, though I'm not too sure about urban commuter bikes.
@escamunicha42763 ай бұрын
If its a pure hill climb, why not remove the front brake.
@TheFlonke883 ай бұрын
Could be the rules, two Brakes....Maybe?
@JoshuaTootell3 ай бұрын
In the real world, I'd take the modern bike. But I love my old SuperSix so much that I won't part with it.
@Alex-md6bu4 ай бұрын
Feels like it’s going to break, maybe that’s why cannondale put that extra carbon on it 😅
@jheiethutzАй бұрын
this is not the lightest SSE. My SSE Hi-Mod is 4.5kg only and it can reach 4.2-4.3kg once I change my tires and set it up as 1x
@timtaylor95904 ай бұрын
ill never understand the taint squeezing and smashing through the hole of a seat.
@sergioboquitademono3 ай бұрын
You forgot to count 80 grams of water drops😂
@mikicastan4 ай бұрын
Put the real expander plug Andrew there,please,you'r gona brake your neck
@Lillee19693 ай бұрын
The rain water on the bike would weigh more than 80g just saying
@techstryker5 күн бұрын
Hi hi
@ArjanGroe4 ай бұрын
Is it me or are tge rear brake pads set not really over /aligning with the brake surface of the rim?
@adccars3594 ай бұрын
Not Crazy at all and the stem bolts look terribly stripped. His bike mechanic does not like him.
@philipcooper82973 ай бұрын
5.08 Kg wet, 4.99 Kg dry 😅
@gjrseveri4 ай бұрын
5.080kg for a all wet bike actually....🤣could be saving a few more grams if it was a sunny day....
@danc18293 ай бұрын
So much nicer than that lab71 lol
@pullyourluck3 ай бұрын
i get the paint removal. but the removal of excess carbon has me concerned. Granted he'll only go uphill...but this bike most certainly will have a limited life....and those brakes are historically absolutely terrible
@IvanMalechko4 ай бұрын
Aside from all the other religious debates… This hoods positioning looks especially disturbing.
@edrcozonoking4 ай бұрын
If it works for him ...
@stevemiell45554 ай бұрын
If you've ever watched him climb, at an amazing pace, you'd know he rides out of the saddle always, hence the hoods...
@IvanMalechko4 ай бұрын
@@stevemiell4555
@IvanMalechko4 ай бұрын
@@stevemiell4555 Yes, particularly when riding steep uphill and out of the saddle, this angle makes even less sense to me :). I would assume they need to be set even lower than the normal neutral position to compensate for the bike angle and standing above the handlebars. But it definitely works for him-amazing performance.
@sean954513 ай бұрын
This is the reason we need to have UCI min weight. These stupid guys removed a layer of carbon! It is one of the most dangerous supersix bike to ride with, ...
@Paganiproductions842 ай бұрын
It's made for uphill only
@unklesannjay4 ай бұрын
Those cane creek brakes are aliexpress fakes!
@broady6664 ай бұрын
Nah they look legit going by the bolts / details.
@chrisdelaplante5515Ай бұрын
Look legit.
@Daniel-ynuhnunu4 ай бұрын
First😊
@jonienglish32314 ай бұрын
Need to convert to Disc brake
@Andy_ATB4 ай бұрын
All a bit OTT just to ride uphill........More Weightweenie nonsense!!
@rob-c.4 ай бұрын
How can you say “Weightweenie nonsense” in the same sentence as “just to ride uphill” 🤦♂️
@bengt_axle4 ай бұрын
Not just to ride up the hill, but to WIN the race up the hill. Andrew Feather is a hill climb champion.