The Link Between Religion And Politics And BTS Of Elizabeth II's Funeral: Archbishop Of Canterbury

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@readikus 12 күн бұрын

This aged well...

@joshbaker3370 12 күн бұрын

Came here to see the comments 😂

@alexfrye6 12 күн бұрын

He's resigned due to an issue not mentioned in the interview though. Nothing said in the interview has aged badly.

@readikus 11 күн бұрын

@ isn’t the podcast called “leading”, and he resigned because he’s not a good leader?

@alexfrye6 11 күн бұрын

@@readikus If he wasn't a good leader he wouldn't have made it to Archbishop of Canterbury or done 11 years in the job. He resigned because the media and the public wanted someone to be accountable not because anything that happened was personally his fault.

@crabapples1995 11 күн бұрын

@@alexfrye6 WEF plant

@SophieHamilton-d3e Ай бұрын

I loved what Welby said: ‘My identity is in Jesus Christ not my DNA’. I was born when my mother was married to her first husband but he was not my biological father. I have struggled with my identity all my life but listening to Welby has really made me think about what is important. My identity is in Jesus Christ.

@Jimfisher58 29 күн бұрын

qqqqààqqà

@MorningtonCrescent 28 күн бұрын

@@SophieHamilton-d3e your identity is in a padded cell.

@Dr.Ian-Plect 26 күн бұрын

Substantiate your religion is real.

@WimbledonChurch 26 күн бұрын

@@Dr.Ian-Plect1 Corinthians 1

@Dr.Ian-Plect 26 күн бұрын

@@WimbledonChurch "1 Corinthians 1" So, if you asked me to substantiate Star Wars as real, would me stating a particular point in the film be relevant?! You are clueless.

@paulhearn8667 Ай бұрын

Thank you, Arch Bishop Welby, Alastair, and Rory, for sharing this deeply personal and spiritually enriching conversation with us. I learned so much during this hour, and for that, I thank you again. Cheers from Deutschland!

@LeadingTRIP Ай бұрын

Thank you for watching !

@PaulGappyNorris 10 күн бұрын

@@LeadingTRIP- I was listening to this whilst driving to the Auvergne. I said to my wife “This guy is so deluded”. Really didn’t like him at all. As an aside Rory has the most polite way of saying ‘You know farkawl about it’ to someone.

@amoxdnb 12 күн бұрын

This aged Welby...

@davidsullivan1181 Ай бұрын

À wonderful interview! The archbishop was so open and honest and the way in which both of you interviewed him revealed beautiful aspects of yourselves! Dave. Catholic priest in Jerusalem

@LeadingTRIP Ай бұрын

Thank you so much !

@MorningtonCrescent Ай бұрын

Get off your knees. A disgrace to human integrity.

@gillesblanchard1699 Ай бұрын

@@MorningtonCrescent - It is easy to criticize others under the guise of a pseudonym, a method some may consider cowardly and distasteful.

@MorningtonCrescent Ай бұрын

@@gillesblanchard1699 it's easy to be naive and gullible, irrespective of whether you publish your name. Sadly, I cannot use my name for professional reasons, despite the claim that the UK enjoys freedom of expression. Nice (failed) attempt at deflection, rather than addressing the issue.

@firstnamelastname9631 29 күн бұрын

@@gillesblanchard1699 said 'mornington crescet'... (do as I say not as I do)

@philippowell8489 Ай бұрын

I have been watching Rest is Politics for a long time now and I have never comment before but today I am making an exception to my self-imposed rule. Rory and Alastair are brilliant. Just the way the relate to each other speaks profoundly. The interview with Justin was brilliant. And despite the many things I struggle with living in this country, today I am proud to call Britain my adopted homeland.

@JoanFitzGerald-l948 Ай бұрын

Justin Welby's interview was profound & very human. A good example of Christian faith in action, on the political, social & religious spheres.

@ianeddielarkin 13 күн бұрын

this man should step down , he protects child abusers.

@stevepownall6569 Ай бұрын

Thank you - three of you - for sharing your friendship with viewers, as well as insight into faith and the world around us.

@vftvctv.tvftvfrvcrcfredbbf1024 Ай бұрын

Can’t say I agreed with everything said this interview but it’s refreshing to see such a mainstream figure being so honest and displaying such a clear understanding of the world.

@GaryFuller Ай бұрын

What a fantastic and informative interview. I knew I liked the Archbishop, but my respect for him continues to grow.

@TheSpyIII Ай бұрын

A very thoughtful man. Inspiring. Alastair and Rory are fantastic interviewers.

@gregmorgan2700 Ай бұрын

So refreshing to enjoy their interviews

@FueledByAdobo03 Ай бұрын

My respect for the Archbishop shot up through the roof after this. He's an awesome human being and an amazing Christian.

@markie6477 29 күн бұрын

He isn't a christian at all! Jesus said, therefore a man shall leave his mother and father and cleave to his wife, homosexual relations are an abomination to God. This man is of the devil and ought to resign.

@jessery475 5 күн бұрын

Pah! Just trying to cover his rep knowing the scandal was coming. Nonce enabler.

@AlexPReal Ай бұрын

Fascinating interview and man. What a well lived life! Thank you so much! I'm not a believer, but I can certainly appreciate him.

@LeadingTRIP Ай бұрын

Thank you

@allsaintsmillington3200 Ай бұрын

This was a wonderful interview. There is so much about ++Justin that we here in the US don't get to see and here about - especially his diplomatic and peacemaking efforts. Thank you!

@GilbertLenssen Ай бұрын

What a refreshing honesty and openness with respect to his mental health issues. Fantastic!

@johnfrederickgeorgeignatiu80 28 күн бұрын

As a survivor of clergy abuse in the Church of England I have had cause to correspond with Archbishop Justin on a number of occasions; and sadly, my experience has been far from satisfactory which is not a unique experience only to me. However, this was a very good interview and I got the feeling that Archbishop Justin has mellowed quite a bit in recent years, so all credit to him.

@SandraT1107 20 күн бұрын

Sorry to hear that you were let down by the church John 😢

@explodingsausage6576 12 күн бұрын

Bet you're grinning today! Good riddance.

@SandraT1107 20 күн бұрын

Very disappointed with a lot of the comments here. A really good and insightful interview. Thanks 😊

@etonecon 27 күн бұрын

Justin came to speak at Eton and it was one of the very best talks I have heard in 24 years of teaching there

@danielkarmy4893 Ай бұрын

On behalf of my Roman Catholic ancestors from the village of Ein Karem (alternatively 'Ayn-Karim') in Jerusalem, the village from which my family took our Anglicised name - thank you, Justin, for speaking for those who have no voice of their own.

@minui8758 Ай бұрын

Love Justin Welby. He’s the only man in high office who ever asked me what I did, where I came from, and what I wanted to do. Never got that from any MP’s I met

@backgammonbacon Ай бұрын

How many MP's have you met? I current fairly senior in civil service and haven't met any yet.

@minui8758 Ай бұрын

@@backgammonbacon through Harborough CLP activism pre university Keith Vaz and Jonathan Ashworth. Through Student Union activism during A Levels Ashworth and Vaz again plus Edward Garner and Liz Kendall (part of the NUS campaign against the DSA and DLA cuts). Then in uni through UCL Labour Soc Jeremy Corbyn, and through the Tory Soc Jacob Rhees Mogg (I asked him how he can support the Popes teaching on abortion and not on living standards for tenants and the Christian duty of trade union membership - a personal triumph moment!). From personal life a mate I was pally with from young church camps is the son of Hornsey’s Catherine West so got nods on arrival and had to face her hung over the next day at birthday parties. Then if we add Lords, Baron Bach our County PCC and Harborough CLP grandee (who thinking about it was more sweet than Welby really and definitely asked me about my intentions), Bishop Tim Steven’s (our Diocesan, who both celebrated my Confirmation and supported Wyggeston SU in the anti cuts campaign), Lord Oystermouth (after a lecture - it was very brief and I was Rowan dumbstruck), and of course Welby at the Lambeth Conference.

@minui8758 Ай бұрын

@martinlawrence8427 Ай бұрын

Always impressed by Archbishop Welby!

@beethovenbrahmsbach Ай бұрын

Absolutely extraordinary discussion. Invaluable. Honest and deeply disturbing. Bravo .

@mariannehavisham8323 Ай бұрын

@@beethovenbrahmsbach what did you find disturbing? Just curious

@Pincer88 Ай бұрын

Been listening absolutely breathless. What a wonderful, hope giving interview. Might I suggest that the topics discussed (gay marriage, depression, faith) may be a great set of topic to talk about with Stephen Fry as well? I feel the Archbishop and Fry could be friends, despite certain differences. And to me both a pinacle of what it means to be civilized. Hats of to the both of you too. This has been such a delight. Thanks you so much!

@glynnera Ай бұрын

He obviously uses a translation of the bible that excludes Genesis 1:26-28, Leviticus 18:22, Matthew 19, 1 Corinthians 6:9, Romans 1:24 - 27, Ephesians 5:31, Timothy 1:9. According to James 4:4, “friendship with the world is enmity with God.” This passage suggests that having a close relationship with the world, as defined by its values, priorities, and systems, is inherently incompatible with a genuine relationship with God.

@WimbledonChurch 26 күн бұрын

@@glynnera spot on. And by the world , I take it you agree with me that we don't only mean the secular press but the liberals within the Church of England.

@glynnera 7 күн бұрын

@@WimbledonChurch indeed. I note he has now fallen on his sword. We await the blue-haired activist with a dog collar that is sure to succeed him.

@yvonnefarrell1029 Ай бұрын

❤Archbishop Justin, love him very much - that question re Trump's appeal to US evangelicals, one: he got rid of Roe v Wade and two: he says he stands up for forgotten people and when he says it so many times those who are rightly scared think he means it. God bless you for this conversation and for Archbishop Justin Welby.

@SandraT1107 20 күн бұрын

Oh dear

@tahiti1 Ай бұрын

One of the best "Leading"'s to date. Good work.

@ColinJHMorton Ай бұрын

What a tremendous discussion, rather than an interview, much enjoyed that. Thanks.

@dipshah1984 Ай бұрын

One of the best interviews you have done. Many thanks.

@silentwitness247 16 күн бұрын

I don’t know how anyone in the CoE or any other church can be trusted after recent disclosures about child abuse. This man should either resign or be sacked for his involvement. Simple.

@bernardh9994 Ай бұрын

Always interesting and inspiring to listen to people of this calibre having an honest discussion.

@marilynchivers4730 Ай бұрын

A great interview of a very interesting gentleman. Archbishop Welby speaks very openly on many subjects some very personal & painful.

@davidwright8665 Ай бұрын

😊wonderful interview in what faith is bringing people together naturally with Christ at the centre. God bless him.

@HMSindistinguishable 25 күн бұрын

Rory looks like he's been on a fishing trawler for a few weeks.

@danpatton3891 Ай бұрын

Thank you for such an interesting and enlightening interview.

@BramptonAnglican Ай бұрын

In the Anglican Church of Canada we high respect the Archbishop of Canterbury.

@homemaintenance1234 7 күн бұрын

Well, it is misplaced.

@GilbertLenssen Ай бұрын

Bravo Justin Welby for your better answer.

@nbjane7884 Ай бұрын

Thank you. Brilliantly done.

@MusicaAngela Ай бұрын

This was absolutely wonderful! Thank you!

@alexm7310 Ай бұрын

Wonderful man, heaps of admiration for JW

@nigelking1721 Ай бұрын

What a beautiful man. My favourite so far❤

@noddfachurch4968 29 күн бұрын

Our church was facing closure in 2014. We had half a dozen members. Today we welcome 150+ ❤ God is good!

@MorningtonCrescent 28 күн бұрын

@@noddfachurch4968 is this worshipping the same deity who endorsed vile monstrous entreaties against innocent women and children? Must be true - it's in your own special book. What an immoral hypocrite you are!

@jsp3366 4 күн бұрын

Wow! Praise God 👏 🙌 🙏

@MorningtonCrescent 4 күн бұрын

not to innocent starving children in the African continent... such a (selective) moral hypocrite.

@murraymusic2633 Ай бұрын

Really good interview, thank you.

@jamescarroll384 12 күн бұрын

Oof, Nov 2024. Three weeks after release and this aged like fine milk 😂😂.

@JohnHowell-g4d Ай бұрын

Such an interesting interview. Liked every part of it.

@housechurchuk 29 күн бұрын

Romans 1:24-28 ESV [24] Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, [25] because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen. [26] For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; [27] and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. [28] And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.

@MorningtonCrescent 28 күн бұрын

@@housechurchuk Psalms 137:9 - dasheth thy little ones against the rocks. F your belief.

@Spook277 Ай бұрын

Excellent interview of a remarkable man

@williamkershaw6851 Ай бұрын

Alistair, I think your position regarding religion is perfectly in synch with Churchill's who, when asked about his views on religion answered " I'm a great believer in the institution, from without, like a flying buttress"

@Jacam781 Ай бұрын

... but for god's sake wear shoes when you wear a suit

@AlanDoherty-ru6iq Ай бұрын

@@Jacam781 I think he was taking it as far as he could!

@R08Tam Ай бұрын

Sorry, I got five minutes into this and had to bail out. "My identity is in Jesus Christ", such absolue piffle. I'm with Stephen Fry who says "a god who gives children bone cancer; how dare you?".

@AlanDoherty-ru6iq Ай бұрын

@@R08Tam give it a listen😊

@jonathandnicholson Ай бұрын

@@R08Tam Does God give children bone cancer? I disagree with Stephen Fry on many other topics.

@gretareinarsson7461 Ай бұрын

Brilliant conversation🙏😊

@wordscapes5690 4 күн бұрын

I am not of this religion, but one thing I can tell you from my own religion: when attendance at temple, church, or synagogue increases, it is usually socio-political. Poverty, anger, suffering are the holy trinity of attendance. It very seldom translates into spiritual progress, because those who are driven towards religion for those reasons are not looking for answers but rather for escape, revenge, or solidarity. When religion is used as a crutch, it invariably becomes a club (and when I use the word “club” I use it in BOTH senses of that word).

@davidalexander7896 12 күн бұрын

Was this interview set up because Welby knew what a wall of s''*t was about to break upon him?

@joshbaker3370 12 күн бұрын

I believe these lads got played

@John_N_Quay_Harbour Ай бұрын

Fascinating. A brilliantly balanced interview and great reflections afterwards. I wish you had asked him about the Assisted Dying Bill

@macsmiffy2197 Ай бұрын

It was probably recorded before the Bill was introduced.

@joshua.910 Ай бұрын

I saw Alastair's GQ interview of him, a few years ago, he's a thoroughly interesting character

@insertclevername4123 Ай бұрын

Since it's a "Leading" interview, I'd like to have seen a bit more of a follow-up on "I won't do same-sex blessings, because I need to be the leader for people who want to kill gays, and I want to keep them on-side." Doesn't seem like moral leadership, and if those are the churches you want to keep on-side, what kind of church are you leading? Isn't the job of Archbishop to provide some sort of, you know, moral leadership? It's not like his job is just to maintain the church email list. (Also disappointed not to hear Paula Vennells' name come up, because that certainly seems like a question of the moral leadership of the church.)

@jonathandnicholson Ай бұрын

The job of the Archbishop of Canterbury is to help keep and promulgate the Faith given that God is the eternal and universal sovereign. At best the AoC could claim to be a line manager rather than a 'leader'. Perhaps leader in the king's stead whom Anglicanism claims to be a leader in Jesus Christ's stead (the Anglican doctrine is that King Charles' kingship is subordinate to Jesus Christ) or leading us to God rather than inventing his own morality. Try reading The Bible instead of assuming you and God share the same morality.

@ilricettario Ай бұрын

The guy sneaking down the stairs, hilarious.

@Christian22605 12 күн бұрын

Rory you said you were “proud” to have Welby as Archbishop, I accept you may not have been aware of accusations then (though C4 uncovered in 2019). However, I want to hear no defence of the man now…at the very, very least he’s guilty of a grave dereliction of duty, and moral failure…and you both SHOULD SAY SO!!

@abigailpenney 4 күн бұрын

‘May he who is without sin, cast the first stone’ springs to mind. Those of you who are so eager to condemn this man on all counts, totally black and white, without any redeeming features, worry me deeply. To me Justin Welby comes over as someone who is transparent and brutally honest to the point almost of embarrassment. People are so eager to condemn without mercy, without intelligent thought or consideration. It’s a good job that God does not share our characteristics, since none of us, and I repeat none of us, would EVER make it/survive! We serve a God who is slow to anger, gracious and compassionate, and full of hesed - loyal, enduring, unchanging love. I praise you Lord and thank you for who you are and for what you’ve done for this broken world and for me.

@jsp3366 4 күн бұрын

@@abigailpenneyBeautiful, wondrous sentiments. Amen 🙏

@FireflyOnTheMoon Ай бұрын

Alcoholics can often put a great show for people outside the home.

@MorningtonCrescent Ай бұрын

As can those who profess faith in the (quite literally) incredible.

@simonmayer8800 Ай бұрын

"BTS Of Elizabeth II's Funeral" - behind the scenes? odd turn of phrase for a funeral 🤨

@jimboslice4468 Ай бұрын

It's an odd funeral, most funerals don't have a behind the scenes but when it's a funeral as meticulously planned as that funeral it makes pretty obvious sense

@backgammonbacon Ай бұрын

How hard is it to understand that it was a massive state show, as hard to organise as any theater production, it wasn't you grannies funeral for gods sake. I despair that my fellow country men can be this dumb.

@macsmiffy2197 Ай бұрын

The Queen’s funeral had been planned for years and had been practised behind the scenes over and over again. More so as she got older.

@prometheus23c 8 күн бұрын

I wonder if Rory and Alistair regret not asking Welby about child abuse within the CoE. Obviously, this was filmed three weeks before the Makin report came out, but how does one do such a wide-ranging interview with the chief bishop of the Church of England and not even tangentially discuss child abuse? Instead, what we get is 1 hour and 16 minutes of Alistair and Rory throwing mostly softball questions at a guy they clearly like and admire, allowing him to come across as a lovely and decent man. This makes it both fascinating and horrifying to watch the interview (and read the comments) now that we know that Welby failed to ensure that child abuse by John Smyth was investigated, and now that the Makin report has stated: "It is the opinion of the reviewers that it was unlikely that Justin Welby would have had no knowledge of the concerns regarding John Smyth in the 1980s in the UK." Next time Rory and Alistair decide to produce a puff piece, I hope they choose their subject more wisely.

@SeanathanCreek 5 күн бұрын

These comments where one mistake versus a lifetime of acheivement lean to the former are utterly baffling. Gladly judgement by God is all that matters and Justin will know when they catch up. The Makin review started in 2019 , and was delayed. Should the Makin review be disregarded for its incompetence? By your judgement you would say yes. Sometimes oversight happens and it's unfortunate in the consequences. Justin acknowledged this and stepped down.

@prometheus23c 4 күн бұрын

@@SeanathanCreek Anyone who is aware of child abuse and does not report it to the police should be charged with a crime. We need new laws to punish not only the abusers but the people who enable or cover up the abuse. To have knowledge of such horrible crimes and say "Oh I thought someone else was going to report this to the police" is not what a good and decent person does.

@SeanathanCreek 4 күн бұрын

@prometheus23c in an ideal world. Plenty of folk who haven't reported their pals for constant speeding and then all of a sudden they cause a major car crash. He's responsible and admittedly incompetent vicariously but innocent otherwise.

@SeanathanCreek 3 күн бұрын

@@prometheus23c That happens with possibly most crimes , most days. For example not reporting an xl bully dog in your street, and then it kills someone. Is the whole street responsible if no one reports it. Morally , possibly , though not necessarily a criminal offence. If you have a friend who speeds while driving, how many of those are reported every day? But do the people who know get charged when that friend kills someone in a crash because they didn't report them in advance? Makin took too long to bring out the report, should he be charged also? The only criminal was Smyth and anyone who enabled his actions. The rest is lack of energy in pursuing resolution that can be learned from and built better.

@katej3z715 6 сағат бұрын

Really interesting interview. His own childhood may explain what seems like a gap. It seems he was in a situation were too often he had to self parent. This often involves 'borrowing' a series of parental figures and may be more difficult for boys. With my Mum in difficulties with the severest form of PND, I relied on a number of maternal figures throughout my childhood. Questions have been raised about reporting abuse. Hindsight is tricky. There are very good people who fail to report suspected abuse (NB Justin Welby DID REPORT IT to his staff, thinking this would be actioned but did not follow this up. This leads to questions about his team's activity, & it apparent delays with the Police). Years ago there was real fear about getting it accusations wrong. A small % have always spoken out but the reaction by society could be quite hostile. I remember sending one very kind neighbour away because he was terrified and likely to come to harm. The awkward truth is that 2024 or not victims of child abuse can still be treated awkwardly or, much worse, as soiled. The former can be moved to 'likely to be damaged and need some support'. The latter is still around, with victims of abuse & rape fully blamed, in some cultures. Maybe, as with the widowed, people do not realise that being loved is what really matters to survivors. As for Justin Welby, I do not know him but people who have had chaotic parenting may struggle to see sides of people, sort of 'personal, global interpretation' of how someone is. We can all do this through crowd perception (eg Jimmy Saville's idiosyncrasies were not seen as suspect for ages). Separately, just to try to help,- anger is good if it is directed to prevent abuse and get it dealt with. Inner Rage is different and does not really help. In fact it can make people physically unwell. Princess Anne said something really helpful, ensure you have plenty of support and do not think therapy will make it go away, therapy is about coping systems. 'Accepting' you have been wronged and failed and it cannot be 'undone', means freeing yourself to move forward, with inevitable bumps from memories to pick yourself up from, instead of feeling bereft or overwhelmed by turmoil or despair. For a victim to win back happiness is a real victory. Support is very important. As for Justin Welby, he admits he got it wrong. It is likely he was bit naive and unfortunately trusted inappropriately. He has not really defended himself,- another sign of chaotic childhood that seems to have been totally misread. He is a little other worldly, his past career may superficially obscure that. Look at the facts, not the guesses, not the anger that Smyth avoided (the going abroad, who was actually involved?), not Justin Welby. Any devout Christian who tries to lead the Christian Church is always going to be up against it. He did not want the role, and we cannot say how well he was supported by the Church as he fitted into the role. This period overlapped. Lastly, he is as human as the rest of us, sad about what has happened, worried for & apologetic about the victims. Responsibility should not be piled on one person, this was a Church wide systems failure now brought into the light, where it should be. Leader or not,he is simply a man, a husband, a father, and Christian. He is very regretful. As fellow Christians and human beings, we should note he suffers from depression. That means we need to take care. The trolling has been appalling. Christ gave us teaching, when we push that aside things do not get better. 'Light' love, the amazing love we receive from God, is there for all. For anyone struggling, obtain support,- Pick up your Bible, yes, but if you are sinking Pick up your Phone for help. Love to you all.

@alistairjenkins7973 Ай бұрын

Amazing people amazing topic 🙏🙏

@francisscott2196 27 күн бұрын

Excellent interview/discussion in so many ways. Interesting that Justin is now clear about the place that 'the bishops have come to' on same-sex relationships (which is that sex outside marriage is OK as long as it's in a committed relationship, straight or gay). This is very different from what they have said in public (which is that sex belongs exclusively within 1-man 1-woman marriage). I wonder when we are going to get a truthful account of the House of Bishops' discussions and decisions over recent years.

@juliehannam5226 Ай бұрын

Restored my faith somewhat interested to hear the beliefs and history of your trinity it was a revelation

@jonathanhearn9126 Ай бұрын

True Christianity does not compromise truth, believes in the nation state willed by God, does not permit wicked and false ideologies to influence it but instead seeks to influence the secular with heavenly values. These three are utterly irrelevant if you are a Christian the Church they want is an anti Church leading to perdition and they will take you with them.

@seanoconnor8843 Ай бұрын

I visit an Anglican church once a week. Lovely people

@nigelhumphreys4091 22 күн бұрын

Abandoning Christianity to fill some pews.

@waterdragon2340 Ай бұрын

Great interview but what a lot of really unpleasant trolling in the comments

@HbagMbag Ай бұрын

The cost of business. Let it not deter you & me & the many in giving credit where it's due. Let us not be accused of "doing nothing".

@MorningtonCrescent Ай бұрын

or rather evidence-based critique (you know, that element of free expression and discourse). What a hyper-sensitive simp!

@mightyredstallion 27 күн бұрын

"And he answered and said unto them, My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, and do it." -Luke 8:21

@christophergarrud5261 21 күн бұрын

Yo need a touch of Micah 6:8

@robertsales9833 Ай бұрын

A very important interview. A fascinating insight into Justin Welby's life. I enjoyed a debate between Rowan Williams and Richard Dawkins some years ago but here we really get "under the skin" of what an Archbishop of Canterbury can face and how Justin Welby sees the world.

@mountbatten2222 29 күн бұрын

I DOUBT THAT CHURCH ATTENDANCE IS INCREASING BECAUSE OF THE AB JUSTIN ! HE DOESN´T HAVE A DEEP UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT RELIGION IS ABOUT !

@Rendell001 28 күн бұрын

Please enlighten us...

@mountbatten2222 27 күн бұрын

@@Rendell001 AB JUSTIN DOESN´T KNOW? BUT CERTAINLY NOT FOLLOW THE MOST BASIC RULES OF OUR FAITH : THE TEN COMMANDMENTS ! HE IS COVERING LIARS; THIEVES; ADULTERERS AND BETRAYERS WHO TRY TO BETRAY EVEN GOD ! NO WONDER HE SUFFERS DEPRESSION; THESE DARK CLOUDS ARE THE REMAINDER OF GOD!

@galinor7 20 күн бұрын

@@mountbatten2222You appear to have left you capslock on. Perhaps your type of Christianity is the reason why church attendance is falling, rather than his.

@nickstone3113 19 күн бұрын

I am Greek Orthodox Christian and did not have a too high opinion of this man but listening to this interview my respect rose massively . Even if I cannot agree with all he saying he has gained my respect and liking.

@donrayjay 12 күн бұрын

It looks like this interview was part of a campaign to keep his job or at least retain something of his reputation because he knew what was coming down the line. What a rat!

@Calphool222 27 күн бұрын

"The church is deeply divided over".... depends on what you mean by "church." There are definitely Anglican Provinces that are NOT in fact deeply divided over the issue. Just get on with the split. Some people are never going to understand, and that's their prerogative. Schism isn't the worst thing that can happen. Stop terriblizing it. Schism allows the factions to stop antagonizing each other, and to get about preaching the gospel in the mutually exclusive way they have decided to do so. It's not the end of the world, and it's *certainly* not the first time we've dealt with schism.

@nadyayurukova Ай бұрын

I'd love to see an interview with a female priest conducted by you, gentlemen

@SW-lw6mt 23 күн бұрын

Justin Welby should take a look at what the Anglican Church is doing in Australia. Clearing hectares of pristine ecosystems for housing estates worth millions. It's appalling when Welby himself believes in Climate action - but he says all the right things while the church does the opposite.

@minui8758 Ай бұрын

6:02 this is painful. Reminds me of my dad’s boozing. And good to know the head of the church has a similar faith story to me. There’s nothing that tells you to turn to God faster than libertine parents

@MorningtonCrescent Ай бұрын

Faith = naivety and gullibility. Whatever happened to evidence? Turn to objective reality, rather than feelings that make you feel 'nice and warm'. Your degree of faith is justified to the SAME DEGREE as the fairies at the bottom of the garden. Utterly shameless lack of basic criticality, despite your personal narrative.

@MorningtonCrescent Ай бұрын

@@minui8758 is this the same god which endorsed vile monstrous entreaties against innocent women and children? You know - the one in that special book of yours that you deliberately choose to be selective about? Hypocrisy thy name is minui8758...

@JelMain 28 күн бұрын

The thing about faith is that it's not intellectual. We're all part of a circle here, Rory knows me, his career was started in work my faith gave birth to. Justin's chum John G was my boss, in finance, but my path was firmly away from the Church and into faith. As far as mental health is concerned, there's a clear difference between natal condition, illness, and emotion. The first can develop: I was born neurodivergent, with potential noted in early childhood which was developed by my mother using techniques from her own background in SOE, which put me "on the grid" aged 11. By 21, I was an interesting proposition to the SAS, who approached me - not the other way around, as is usual. I'd been doing the slightly uncanny on exercise, tying the PSIs up in knots, and have "background" on both sides of the family - the male line, Marines since 1760, and Orkney men from Viking days. The seal people from Gladiator. That attunement led to questions when I appeared on the nave of a south-east London church, answering a mission problem at he exact moment it moved from imminent to immediate. That raised the question of prophetic gift, and they enlisted the Principal of the Church Army Seminary, which was in the Parish, to discern its provenance. From my side, it was clear, I'd done as instructed, and it worked out, despite not investigating what I was getting myself into. My instructions were very clear on that. So when he Principle sprang his test on me, collecting me using the Churchwardens, their coppers, so I was under constant observation until he did so, the answer to what the congregation perceived as an impossible question was easy, I cleared my channels, passed the ball upwards, and dived for cover into the deepest meditative hole I could find, because invoking the all-powerful is not without its dangers. Something not of me answered, and answered correctly. For myself, once it was done, I recovered my control, and checked, everything was physiologically normal. Over the months and years to come, I discovered th real change was to my spirituality, as I was trained in skills I'd need in my true vocation. I was no longer a God-botherer, but becoming active the other way around, using my growing gifts to answer needs. With the congregation now autonomous, I moved on, through marriage into diplomacy, with the event at the heart of the reasons behind the award of the 2012 Nobel Peace Prize an initiative from my side: when WEU's SG se out to check my background as a spouse to one of his key staffers, he wasn't able to come to me on my subjects, so I reversed the initiative and told him the Iron Curtain was three months from collapse, and why. November 88 to Feb 89, it duly obliged, and checking with my security officer in my employment gave background, I was a quality economist. Whence the reference to Justin's mate, he can check, I was John's Chief Dealer. From there on on, I was step to step, ever that little bit tougher, more demanding, but never impossibly so, until I landed a real biggie, completing Gandhi's unfinished business, which dropped on me from out of the blue. All I was told to do was stand over there - and then it took off like a rocket. Bringing an end to two generations of strife in a subcontinent was followed by the only possible step-up, handling the dissolution of Rome's supposedly "perpetual and universal" ArchiAssociation of the Eucharist, which was not idly posited thus. I then returned to the UK, into Rory's circle, where he saw me handle yet another humdinger. What had happened after Boris drove his tank through our circle was a classic case of traumatic disorder. You can view that as illness if you like, but I see it as an abnormality, my animal self protecting me from the abuse I'd suffered as a child. I shed the trauma, at the behest of well-meaning souls who wanted me back in the community, only to find the experiences of the past and the consequential fears were tangibly unleashed. I ended up asking myself why I should help my enemies, folk whose ignorance had done nothing but heap contempt on me. First resolve that problem. The depression they talk about is similar, unregulated reaction to the tests of life. We don't always get it right, life can be rough, my response has been to us the divine healer to weather the storm. Love thy neighbour, to me, means don't hit them head-on with things they don't understand, but first augment their understanding. It's that emotional response. There's nothing wrong with me, beyond being ahead of my time.

@PinheadLarryVEVO Ай бұрын

Alastair asking about declining attendance not knowing that it’s increasing… on one hand I want to complain about his lack of research, but also I’m not sure if we’d ever think it’d increase in our lifetimes. It’s really a paradigm shift.

@czgibson3086 Ай бұрын

Attendance is rising but still below pre-pandemic levels.

@aidanwatson3499 Ай бұрын

I work for the C of E and many churchgoers don't realise that it is growing. Young people especially are spiritually interested in a way that my generation weren't.

@danieltemelkovski9828 28 күн бұрын

@@aidanwatson3499 This is certainly heartening news. I wonder, does someone have a time stamp to the part of the interview where this was discussed? (The thumbnail advertising the point was the main reason I clicked on the video.)

@kobushauman3310 Ай бұрын

I give ALL the Glory to the Only Lord Jesus Christ Who is God and His Holy Ghost 🙌🏿✝️🧎🏽

@MorningtonCrescent Ай бұрын

@@kobushauman3310 your god endorsed r***, inc*st, sl*v*ry and g*n*c*de. It's in your own special book (so it must be true, right?) but then again you moral hypocrisy gets in the way. Get off your knees - you are degrading humanity. Disgraceful.

@neilpick9251 Ай бұрын

Given the AB rehearsed extensively for the Coronation can we not accept he rehearses, like all of us, for these types of events. I would love to have heard some questions on his views on the Bible and the contrasting views and why he came to his. Then I would have liked an exploration of his doctrines around sin, election etc.

@RyanStodart Ай бұрын

Can you please do Leading interviews with Rory and Alastair as the interviewees - preferably with the other and a relevant special guest as the interviewers.

@revflections7 14 күн бұрын

As a C of E vicar it makes me angry and bewildered that the senior clergy are in such wilful denial of the statistical decline of (Christian) religion in the West. We are managing decline in the church, fact, it is an institution in decline, fact. It loads mental health pressures on us clergy at the grassroots when our seniors won't face it and address it honestly. The exchange at 54:50 is darkly hilarious and speaks volumes. Note '20% down to (1.7%)' - the reality - topped and tailed in this brief exchange with the pretence of 'growth'. An absolute farce. When is a senior cleric going to arise who will speak the truth openly and get real? AC - How are you going to reverse the falling numbers?... Are numbers falling? JW - No, the last couple of years they’ve gone up. AC - And have they gone up with younger people, older people…? JW - Both, all, everywhere, and in every part of the church. AC - And was that… but you’re still a lot lower that you were at the height of the church’s (kind of) status. JW - Oh, good heavens, yes. At the height of the church’s - the Church of England - we were around 20% of the population. We’re now 1.6, 1.8. AC - Wow. JW - But last year we grew 5% overall, then 6% in young people.

@RobThomson-x8g Ай бұрын

He should be keeping out of politics. We've seen how dangerous this problem can be.

@williamrichard1828 17 күн бұрын

Really interesting interview. It's amazing to hear religious cognitive dissonance expressed so clearly so frequently. Religion really is a pernicious evil masquerading as moral rectitude. He sounds like a very decent person constantly struggling to align his religious doctrine with what he knows to be right.

@bencarroll1122 12 күн бұрын

This one will age like a fish….

@martygough 29 күн бұрын

You cannot be the leader of a church and not believe in its teachings. It would be like a pastor saying, well, I don't actually believe what we teach, you know that whole Bible thing, but that is just my personal belief. Absolutely insane and he should resign immediately, and maybe examine his salvation.

@christophergarrud5261 21 күн бұрын

Your comments are quite ridiculous. Not only is that not what he’s said, I challenge you to say that he is not loved and saved by our loving God. His said his identity is in Jesus Christ. Is yours? I think you could do with re-reading Micah 6:8.

@robertlonergan49 26 күн бұрын

"LGBT love" is a misnomer, T is not about "love" it is solely about gender presentation. "LBG love" makes sense as a phrase as it is a discussion about heterosexual, homosexual and bisexual love

@Mark_Dyer1 18 күн бұрын

Many, many children could provide a similar testimony of their childhood: and the one 'rescue' factor which is entirely missing from this disingenuous discussion is the good old British element; CLASS. Private Schools used to have "reserved places" at Oxbridge Colleges: such that competition for entry was not always a factor (eg the association between Winchester, and New College, Oxford; or Eton and King's College Cambridge). The 'interview' with ELF does not sound at all plausible: and the position Justin Welby holds is one where the contemporary holder of the Office has to be one who does not rock any boats. This contrasts markedly with many of his forebears in Office. The Church - like the military - reserves the language of 'service' to itself. It speaks of 'calling' (as though no refuse-collector or nurse 'serves' their Country): and in Justin Welby's case, his 'calling' has always been onwards and upwards: often in rapid succession. Dean of Liverpool, Bishop of Durham, Archbishop of Canterbury, in swift succession. All 'callings'? And today - the one thing an ABC needs to be able to do is to enable belief in Jesus of Nazareth as Messiah - to be placed before contemporary people as 'reasoned' and 'reasonable': and this takes theological acumen. Today's bishops, under Justin Welby, tend to be like CEOs; with pastoral care delegated to their Suffragens. They see no problem in a 'secular' society which is actually more humane toward sexual minorities than is the Church. Always in history, the 'scriptural literalist' has used the bible to justify a 6-day creation, the holding of slaves, the suppression of women, and the killing/jailing of homosexual men: and it took the 'heretics' in the Church (those who perceived Jesus as their model: not the writings of Paul). Now, with regard to human sexuality, the Church clings, desperately, to "scripture says"; whilst the 'secular State' it despises acts in a humane and loving way. My partner of the past forty-one years, and I, owe our Civil Partnership to the humanistic State: whilst the Church continues to exclude us from communion.

@mariannehavisham8323 Ай бұрын

I know atheists in 12 step programmes. Higher power can be anything you want it to be -it just as to be something greater then yourself. I know someone who had several different higher powers over his decades of sobriety -he began with Aslan followed by Yoda. I know another person who was an atheist practising Buddhist

@judithpride1690 Ай бұрын

True, with the disclaimer that the individual has to understand that they are NOT the Higher Power - which gets most of us in trouble in the first place, thinking we're the centre of the universe and bleeting about why are our needs not being met (mix of self-centredness and playing the victim in my case). I'm a sober atheist thanks to the 12-step programme). Sober now for 18 years ODAAT.

@simoncooper7353 17 күн бұрын

He admits that he is under the authority of the government and the law of the country rather than accountable to God. Effectively he is putting his job and his position before the Word of God.

@simoncooper7353 17 күн бұрын

We don't chuck out people who disagree, or who harbour deliberate sin, unrepentantly. The Bible has something to say about this, and it's not tolerance or affirmation...

@glenyscallaghan1195 Ай бұрын

Why didn’t you feel you had to speak out about the State of the Church of England.

@davidnichol6282 27 күн бұрын

What did Cambell mean he said he cant do religion intellectually.? In nature people have explained photosynthesis as being necessary in the production of the food chain. Their is intelligence in nature if you look deep enough.?

@glen.alexander Ай бұрын

I have a tremendous respect for Welby. He has a lovely humility and great honesty to him. I would love to see the Church of England better work alongside the NHS, to offer regular exercise, yoga, and meditation classes etc to communities. Promoting a more holistic “healthy body, healthy mind, healthy spirit” approach. (Might additionally bring people in to the Church, whilst helping and supporting communities-perhaps even a country at large-to live healthier, more productive, and more fulfilling lives; and perhaps without the need for Mr Streeting’s slightly dystopian quick-fix injection proposal. Although, in fairness, I’m sure Wes would welcome and support any such initiative, if the CoE felt so called to help serve national Wellness in, by, and through Christ. A bold (and by no means easy) mission X

@Liam-p5o2b Ай бұрын

Good point’s especially considering I’ve seen a study that suggests people of faith are typically happier than those without. Not saying you can’t be happy without faith though of course.

@MorningtonCrescent Ай бұрын

Shameless naivety knows no bounds it seems.

@jonathandnicholson Ай бұрын

Jesus Christ has already given us a mission, so we have no need of 'mission X'. The Mission (baptising the nations in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit) Jesus Christ gave us is substantial enough to preoccupy us without resorting 'mission X' or to yoga which is a Hindu (not Christian, not neutral) practice. The just and right worship of God (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) is The Church's central reason for being given that religion is about giving unto God that which He is due rather than to be another gym. Love is more important than keeping fit. Moral fitness is not the same as physical fitness: 'But the LORD said to Samuel, “Do not look on his appearance or on the height of his stature, because I have rejected him; for the LORD does not see as mortals see; they look on the outward appearance, but the LORD looks on the heart' (1 Samuel 16:7). True salvation and eternal life is given through Jesus Christ rather than running the four-minute mile. People can keep fit, but fitness is a benefit of not being gluttonous and of not smoking and of walking to church rather as well as other goodly and Godly works. God bless.

@MorningtonCrescent Ай бұрын

@@jonathandnicholson never enough straitjackets for those who hear voices in their heads and are gullible enough to believe fairy tales. Grow TF up. Disgrace to human progress.

@Rendell001 28 күн бұрын

@@MorningtonCrescent Can't let it go can you.

@corsicanparker6967 Ай бұрын

Alistair's body language!

@jessielund7947 Ай бұрын

Brilliant. Thank you!

@ELB-v7b Ай бұрын

Church attendance isn't increasing, it's the population which is growing. So the implication that Christianity is becoming more popular is smoke and mirrors. If we were to look at church attendance numbers in relation to population growth we would probably find that in actual fact it is decreasing, or at best staying the same as it's been for many years now.

@JosephCapelli Ай бұрын

For the Anglican church, yes indeed. I saw it myself as a former Anglo-Catholic. Then I came to the Roman church and became Catholic: our churches are so bustling we don't have enough priests to service them all!

@MorningtonCrescent Ай бұрын

@@JosephCapelli Priests servicing whom, exactly? Yours sincerely, a survivor of the Catholic school system. Brings a whole new meaning to 'being on your knees' to X deity. Your 'belief' is nothing more than wishful thinking. Shame.

@Mark-n3e Ай бұрын

@@JosephCapelliYou don’t have enough priests because no one wants to be a priest. Poor migrants go to church, the next generation will go for major events and the third won’t go at all.

@Rendell001 28 күн бұрын

@@MorningtonCrescent perhaps letting go of hatred and a step towards empathy might be a more positive direction for you.

@MorningtonCrescent 27 күн бұрын

@@Rendell001 perhaps stop projecting and speculating as to other s reasons might help. Empathy for whom, exactly? I have zero empathy for those who are wilfully ignorant about core tenets of their belief, nor those who use it as a shield to protect them from the legal consequences of their predatory behaviour, nor those who facilitate such protection. Looks like someone is trying to excuse such brutal immorality (disguised of course as a moral force for.good). Time for society to grow up and reject all religions, subjugating human progress as it does. Don't tell me, you want to pass the tambourines and spread a positive message. Nah, not for me, as I prefer to live in the real world rather than the imaginary.

@PeterDay-n6n 28 күн бұрын

Keep our English Christian Churches full, it's more important now then ever before. Otherwise Britain will be waking up to Islamic morning prayer.

@Rendell001 28 күн бұрын

Well I'm sure that's a sentiment Christ would really identify with... 🙄

@Sam-y5o6j Ай бұрын

'The archbishop of Canterbury has suggested the Duke of York is “seeking to make amends” as he encouraged society to be more “open and forgiving” ' - and we look to Justin Welby for moral authority? I think not.

@ognet Ай бұрын

You obviously haven’t listened to what he has to say in the symphonyin this interview

@Sam-y5o6j Ай бұрын

@@ognet no, I really have, I was struck by what a pompous, fascicle, and fundamentally godless man he seemed, so wrapped up in the contradictions, compromises, and concessions, he had long lost the word of god, in favour of the most corrupting and corrupt type of politics (with a small 'p').

@wallbars8684 28 күн бұрын

Why Godless??

@andyj8518 Ай бұрын

Rory never misses a chance to bring up the Iraq war and Alistair's role in it and to be quite provocative about it. Full marks to Alistair in not rising to the bait. I was always against the Iraq war and believe there was and still is terrible dishonesty surrounding it. But Alistair has been interrogated and explained his position in other episodes and where it's very relevant to the subject matter he doesn't shy away from this difficult topic. I feel that Rory has a need to make A squirm.

@HbagMbag Ай бұрын

I doubt that Rory has the need. But I wholeheartedly agree with you that Alistair is & has been mightily brave in taking it on the chin. Brutally honest & brave!! Hat's off!!

@akimbojimbo8393 Ай бұрын

Its a topic which inevitably comes up very often. It has shaped the lives we all live, no matter where you live in the western world. There are also a hell of a lot of parralels for coversation too. Some would argue that Rory is right to continuously remind him of it. Just like many people in Iraq were continuously reminded of being invaded. Given this is a political podcast its hardly surprising.

@QwentyJ Ай бұрын

Tbf, Alistair also enjoys an opportunity to make Rory squirm

@Kuko1256 27 күн бұрын

I always thought the bishop++ knew his Holy Scriptures but was weak in his faith and unable to stand for Christ with errant bishops. Now we know his wishy washy view is due to his lack of understanding of the Scriptures. He hasn’t read 22 “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable. Lev 18:22 or “9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men” 1 Cor 6:9 St. Paul says in Romans 1:21 “21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. “ Somebody needs to remind him of Matthew 7:21-23. If you can’t stand up for Jesus

@lizgrazioli-talbot9163 4 күн бұрын

I'd might rather have an arch bishop aware of mental health issues and his own issues to lead the flock. There is no entitlement here. Refreshing! Catholic clinical social worker.

@johnbuchan4664 Ай бұрын

The Churchof England is lost with this leader no Christian leadership in this woke society

@Rendell001 28 күн бұрын

I think you're definition of leadership would be somewhat different from the version taught by Christ which has at it's heart the compassion for all peoples - did you miss that part?

@johnbuchan4664 27 күн бұрын

@@Rendell001 Bible teaching comes straight from the Holy Book not from woke church leaders who has lost their Christian message

@tomdouge6618 Ай бұрын

The reality: Around the world, the more religious a country is the lower its GNP is likely to be. The USA was the one exception, but thanks to the Republican Party and Donald Trump, the number of those unaffiliated, the Nones, has accelerated. Religion is a plea for help. Lincoln, "God must love the poor because he made so many of them"