The logo that ruined an NHL dynasty. | Islanders Fisherman Era

[@mattdooley6595]

Great job ! My life story in fact, I had Islanders season tickets in 91-93. I split them with a roller hockey coach in College Point, Queens who asked me to. I signed the petition against the logo change (8:30) sitting somewhere in the 300 level seats at Nassau Coliseum, after sitting in the last row of MSG's blue seats for Game 1 of the Eastern Conference Quarterfinals in 1994 wearing a New York Islanders original logo starter jacket. Thank you for including video of the roller blading players (4:20), the historical accuaracy of this video, the next stop for those kids on skates at this time was usually a Sega Gensis / Super Nintendo console that offered 4-way play on NHL 94. True hockey Nirvana, if you were 19 years old like I was. The most loyal of New York Islanders fans sat in section 329 at the Nassau Coliseum for home games. A lot of those guys are from Staten Island. Post dynasty, a good number of New York Islanders fans came from the surrounding areas of Queens, the boros, etc. simply because they did not want to root for the Rangers, or admired the great players and teams of the New York Islanders dynasty. Thank you for a great video, and keep in mind (Rangers Fans) the New York Islanders were at one time the greatest franchise in pro sports, and the envy of the sports world. The last North American sports franchise to win 4 consecutive championships.

[@sideline.archive]

This is an incredible comment. Amazing to read! Thank you!

[@Cooneyman27]

Random question, but was that Coach Rick? I played there from 2008-2018 and had him as my coach for all my years in the older teams.

[@mattdooley6595]

​@@Cooneyman27Yes, it was.

[@G0oseG0ose]

Gretzky didn’t play for the Rangers in 94. He joined the Rangers 2 years later. Just wanted to let you know. Enjoying your work so far!

[@sideline.archive]

Urgh PAIN! 1996. How did I get that one wrong, I even own his Starter Rangers jersey. Appreciate the spot and thanks for watching.

[@G0oseG0ose]

@@sideline.archivedon’t sweat it. Just wanted to bring it to your attention as nicely as possible and avoid the usual internet reactions when someone makes an honest mistake.

[@sideline.archive]

I actually really appreciate it. I’m never going to get every piece of info 100% right in a 12 minute video. And it lets us share and discuss this thing instead of me being all “IM RIGHT!” Or you saying “YOURE WRONG!” Quite rare to find on the internet - so I do appreciate it brother.

[@PhyrexianFleshgorger]

Such wholesomeness! Go team! I am gonna be nicer today because of this! 😂

[@sideline.archive]

KZbin comment section making the world a better place

[@ElectrifyingUno]

Next logo coverage would be the gone but not forgotten Hartford Whalers WH logo. The NHL has some iconic logos like the Blackhawks, Blues, Bruins, Redwings, Leafs, Penguins, Sharks, Flyers, etc.

[@danny9405]

Islander fan here. The logo is still very much polarizing but most have come around to it. The real problem with the uniform is that it completely erased the look of an already historic team from only a decade previous. Had this look been released as an alternate uniform and under more a more prosperous product on the ice at the time, this uniform would t have been so hated. For me personally, I was a kid in the 90’s, I remember people weren’t thrilled. Now, most of the fans in their 30’s and 40’s (and younger) grew to appreciate it and wear it like a badge of honor of sorts. It’s retro, it’s hip, it’s collectible, and it’s part of the history. I love it now, but not more than our original logo.

[@sideline.archive]

A great read. Cool to know how it’s appreciated inside UBS Arena. Thanks!

[@PD-hv4js]

It's a disgusting pos logo and should be banished to the dustbin of history. How anyone can view that logo today and not be disgusted by it is beyond me.

[@gordonklassen3182]

It’s always been my opinion that the shoulder patch logo is a solid design and could be used as the alternate jersey. That light house logo looked pretty good as a team logo on its own. The fish stick guy could have used a bit more R&D.

[@orbakun]

@@gordonklassen3182I pray everyday for a lighthouse alternate 🙏

[@joeblog2672]

@@PD-hv4js Absolutely! That guy is on crack and seeing something else in his mind if he likes that logo then or now!

[@dafttassia1960]

Attacking a mascot cos you hate a logo is so bizarre to me

[@JoeyJoe-f5o]

@@dafttassia1960 nyisles is back

[@Robis2349]

100% , plenty of people actually liked the logo

[@RudieObias]

Back in the day, I thought this logo and uniforms were dope. It was a bold re-imagining. NHL fans are notorious for gatekeeping and tradition though, so I can see why fans hated it

[@sideline.archive]

I still love it! They gotta bring back the lighthouse patch somehow.

[@ryanjacobson2508]

Nah, the late 90's had some absolutely brutally bad uniform changes. Anyone with any understanding of graphic design will tell how awful most of the changes were. Uniforms traditionally tried to say a lot with very little, then all of a sudden it's like owners hired their 7 year old grandkids to design uniforms. Tacky.

[@marcanthonybattenberg7636]

I wouldn't say NHL fans are known for gatekeeping, but we are fans of tradition. The Bettman years have made me miss the old days

[@walmartian422]

I still hate the new canucks uniforms and logo. Eh maybe not hate but the yellow and black looked so much cooler then they came out looking like they were some san jose sharks ripoff…..

[@sideline.archive]

@ long live the flying Skate!

[@Themanthatisi]

As a Rangers fan, we chanted. We want fish sticks!

[@timkillian1469]

ESPN did a really good 30 for 30 documentary on John Spano's attempt to buy the Islanders called Big Shot.

[@brenthrax]

Captain Fishstick rules! The problem wasn't it was a bad logo, the problem was it replaced a classic and the team sucked.

[@sideline.archive]

Absolutely. They just needed something to blame.

[@cowetascore8476]

A 5-year-old could have created a better logo. it was awful and true Isles fans like myself HATED it. The lighthouse was a much better idea if they were gonna change it.

[@jd749]

Please bring it back!! That jersey was sick as hell!

[@sideline.archive]

Preaching to the choir brother!

[@SuperGogetem]

I still hate it.

[@jd749]

@@SuperGogetem That's the beauty of it bro!

[@cowetascore8476]

It's TRASH

[@maxrockatansky2003]

Rebrands are tough. The problem is that rebrands are lead by marketing experts who are rarely fans of the game or the team and think of a sports logo purely as a marketing tool, like any other product to be sold. They rarely understand that a sport's team is part of the fans ' cultural heritage. You can't treat it like Starbucks or Home Depot.

[@sideline.archive]

True - but the guy who redesigned this logo had done other successful hockey logos in the past - the San Jose Sharks if I remember correctly. I guess he just completely whiffed.

[@maxrockatansky2003]

@@sideline.archive That's interesting. I can see how that kind of experience can make the owners feel like they are in good hands. However, the Sharks were a brand new franchise. It's not as tricky as rebranding a team with a history and a fanbase that has grown up loving it. I wonder if this person had succesful sports team rebrands as opposed to a start-up.

[@elmarnigmatullin4490]

0:40 Gretzky in Rangers in 1994? Wut?

[@sideline.archive]

Yep - mistake. Well spotted!

[@JackMartino-n5e]

Love your channel man I can't wait to see more vintage sportswear videos like this one

[@sideline.archive]

More to come bro. Really means a lot and very motivating to get these comments. Thank you.

[@lightningdb8445]

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[@sideline.archive]

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[@JamesMetsFan1]

Great video. I grew up a Islanders/Mets fan. I remember the negative reaction from fans over the jersey and logo redesign. Back then it didn't have a lot of support. But now we Islanders fans have come to embrace it as part of our team history. Binge watching your videos keep up the good work 👍

[@sideline.archive]

Appreciate you checking in on my past videos! Looks like I’ll need to drop a Mets one soon. Come follow along on the insta too if this is your kinda thing @sideline.archive

[@CSXIV]

Not an Islanders fan, but I remember when a friend of mine first showed that to me, and my reaction was “what the hell is that?” I’m also seeing a lot of similarities between the logo and the mascot to the bizzare story of Krusty Krab, the anti-mascot for the San Francisco Giants in the 1980’s (except Krusty Krab was specifically created to be hated. It was an anti-mascot). In both cases, the hate directed at the mascot was more or less cover for a team that was throughly awful, with an frustrated fan base taking their anger out on a mascot because of how much the team sucked.

[@sideline.archive]

The idea of the anti-mascot is interesting - particularly with regard to Gritty. Although he has evolved into a new beast entirely. Maybe they were just way ahead of their time!

[@BrokenGoldfishFilms]

Super well done video, no way this only has 750 views, keep it up, great voice over / editing / video design!

[@sideline.archive]

Appreciate the support dude thank you.

[@DevilFish69]

Love those jerseys and logos. Wish they would bring them back as a third jersey.

[@codyfrierson6071]

I always liked these jerseys. As a 90's kid, these were quintessential 90's: from the logo, to the "wave" design. Understanding the history of the Islanders franchise, I can understand the backlash over such a radical rebrand. It's nice to see that it's seemingly more and more embraced as time goes on. The "wave" design will always be appreciated by me. Growing up, our local ECHL team sampled the design in our colors of navy blue, red, white, & bronze. The Mississippi Sea Wolves won the franchise's only Kelly Cup the first year of the redesign in the '98-'99 season. After many subsequent redesigns, folding of the ECHL franchise, and even with the recent revival of the Sea Wolves name with our FPHL team, the 90's "wave" jerseys are still some of the most popular worn by our fans at the games.

[@sideline.archive]

Sea Wolves is an incredible name!

[@bobwhit1544]

In 1994, the Devils, despite being a championship caliber team were still struggling to connect with their fan base. They were third in the market behind the Islanders even while being in the conference final in 1994 and and winning the cup in 1995. They were actually planning a move to Nashville while winning that cup. Imagine going through all four rounds of the playoffs and not even trying to sell season plans for the following year. Fortunately for Devils fans the move fell through. And of course the Devils were run in a super traditional top down way by Lou Lamerillo, who was not just in charge of hockey ops, he was in charge of everything from the hot dogs to the arena staff, to building the team. And he was also in charge of the almost non existent marketing. But they had a classic logo crest that has remained exactly the same since it debuted in 1982. Of course...where did Lamerillo end up? You guessed it. Long Island. I guess after all this they wanted a proven record of incredible stubbornness in marketing.

[@WillMuny]

Um the Islanders were in the Conference Finals in 1993. And considering the history up to this point, its no wonder the Devils were a distant 3rd in 1994.

[@sideline.archive]

I really miss the Devils green and red colour scheme. Do you know why they changed it? It did feel a bit "Christmas" but the green starter jackets they made were incredible.

[@michaelabrams7345]

Had the Devils not won the Cup in 1995 they probably would have moved to Nashville after that season.

[@jakebernard9922]

Hey man. First video ive seen from your channel. Interesting topic to talk about. Noticed you also go out of your way to repond to comments. Thats great engagement with your fan base. Hope your channel continues to grow man 😊👍

[@sideline.archive]

@@jakebernard9922 appreciate the kind words brother. Thanks for watching! If vintage sportswear floats your boat then I’ve got two other vids up, or come join us on instagram! @sideline.archive

[@facecrook3454]

Your videos are excellent bro, good shit

[@RXBannedit]

The logo itself was great then and is great now. I wouldn't go as far as saying it was ahead of its time, but it's certainly more timeless than it gets credit for. The jerseys themselves were almost adsurdly 90s, but I love them for that. And I'm sorry, the "classic" NY/LI logo is pretty damn uninspired. It's only classic cause they won't let it die. Great video btw, keep up the good work!

[@sideline.archive]

Appreciate you dropping in brother! I also love this logo, wish they would incorporate the lighthouse patch somehow. Even if the jerseys weren’t well received - the Fisherman merch HIT.

[@BrokenGoldfishFilms]

Not sure how much baseball content you’ll do but I would recommend looking into a video on the “Back to the future” baseball jersey line from the 90s

[@sideline.archive]

The Turn Ahead the Clock night. I actually mention it in next week's video. But I think you're right - I'll add a full breakdown to the list. Hit that sub!

[@SamKimish]

I've always loved the old logo and had no idea of it's maligned history! Loving the series man, keep up the good work

[@sideline.archive]

@@SamKimish appreciate it dude ty

[@BallparkHunter]

The dynasty was over for a long time before they released the Fisherman logo! Also, Gretzky was still in Los Angeles in 1994, but I do miss saying 1940!

[@sideline.archive]

I was in New York for the playoffs this year and I really thought it was going to be the Rangers year. Trouchek and Kreider were playing out of their minds!

[@BallparkHunter]

@@sideline.archive I grew up a Devils fan and was more than happy to see my team knock the Rangers off in 2022, but that Stéphane Matteau goal in overtime in 1994 still is hard to watch.

[@sideline.archive]

I loved Marty Brodeur growing up. Also a big fan of the Devils atmosphere at games.

[@higgy04]

THG with a cameo appearance at 12:20

[@sideline.archive]

Love @thehockeyguy his breakdown videos are second to none.

[@liberte456]

I understand the issue. However, I started watching hockey in 1995 and always prefered that jersey as there was many modern interesting jerseys throughout the 1990's, as teams tend to return to much classic designs, as the Sens, Pens, Flames and others tend to wear their early 1990's jerseys, which is cool too. Now that I see it back again I understand that the back of the jersey can look horrible to some people with the waves and all that, but for kids outside NY it was fun back then.

[@martharunstheworld]

And that's why they will always be called The Fishsticks to us Rangers fans!

[@sideline.archive]

NINETEEN FORTY!

[@Dbomb81]

The logo was and still is a great logo. It was those horrible wavy numbers and jersey stripes that did them in.

[@sideline.archive]

I kinda dig the wavy numbers tbh

[@Dbomb81]

@@sideline.archive HAHA! Of course you would! The actual original reveal featuring Darius kasparaitis, the waves along the body weren't present. When the season started the waves were added, check out the reveal and the eventual game pics, theyre actually vastly different. The reverse retro is actually based off the reveal jerseys.

[@sideline.archive]

@@Dbomb81 that’s interesting! I can’t find anything online. If you have a link send it over to me on instagram @sideline.archive - id love to see it

[@cowetascore8476]

It was trash.

[@Dbomb81]

@@cowetascore8476 no sir.

[@Bc232klm]

Great stuff. Glad when the algorithm shows awesome new channels like this!

[@sideline.archive]

Glad you enjoy it! Hit sub to catch more videos dropping weekly.

[@jeffreyhalat1535]

The Burger King LA Kings Jersey were pretty BAD too

[@sideline.archive]

@@jeffreyhalat1535 I didn’t love any iteration of it… the huge grey swoosh. but the purple and yellow colorway was especially not great…

[@SS711STOTCH]

The jerseys were incredible but they should have been alternates not the main home and away jersey. Btw great video!

[@sideline.archive]

Thanks man! Hit that sub for more!

[@bobbyb3543]

There's been soo many worse logos, the angry islander was really average to above average all things considered. See avs, ducks, blue jackets, hurricanes for reference point.

[@sideline.archive]

The Blue Jackets logo and whole design scheme is truly truly terrible.

[@DGS2605]

Lowkey, it's kinda fire. The NY Riptide of the National Lacrosse League definitely used it as inspiration.

[@sideline.archive]

@@DGS2605 I’ve gotta check that out. National Lacrosse League sounds dope

[@DGS2605]

@ Team relocated to Ottawa 💀

[@Elementsoftheory29]

Ron Hextall DID NOT give up 22 goals , get your stats right ...

[@sideline.archive]

@@Elementsoftheory29 looks like we’ve found Ron Hextall’s burner account.

[@sideline.archive]

@@Elementsoftheory29 but you’re absolutely correct, Ron gave up 16 and was pulled for Jamie McLennan who gave up 6. It was the Islanders as a team who gave up 22.

[@guyincogneto8979]

Good ol Hextall, giving up goals on shots from the blue line.

[@FunkyAve69]

Gretzky?!?!

[@humanbeing2420]

7:51 That photo does not look like Dennis Potvin. I don't think he ever wore a visor or a Jofa helmet. The newspaper indicates that it's him, but I think that is an error.

[@bertuzzihockey]

Please do a video on the history of the Vancouver Canucks jerseys!

[@sideline.archive]

The Flying V, the flying skate, and the weird shark C thing. I’m on it. Thanks for watching bro, hit that sub!

[@estellegrignon]

The black V jersey is a guilty pleasure of mine. I doubt we'll ever see that again: even with the weird jerseys the 90's gave us, no team ever went as far and experimental in their redesign as the '78 Canucks

[@sideline.archive]

It’s odd to see a jersey with no prominent front logo. And I love that they retained elements of the V for the flying skate. The only wilder hockey jerseys are in the IHL imo - like the Detroit Vipers. But that’s a different kettle of fish entirely. The V is a hockey classic.

[@guyincogneto8979]

The Vs weren't the problem. It was the overkill with the pants. Put that jersey over black pants ...awesome.

[@rachelrolltide3106]

Cool videos man.

[@sideline.archive]

Glad you like them! Hit sub for more dropping soon!

[@billdang3953]

I like to refer to this era of Islanders uniforms as the Captain Lloyd Duncan uniform era.

[@sideline.archive]

Hahaha wish I’d thought of that

[@KristianWontroba]

If I hadn’t grown up near Pittsburgh and was a Penguins fan, I might have been a Islanders fan. Love the scrappy, small market vibe, and the fans are great! 👍🏼

[@sideline.archive]

But then you don’t get to enjoy those Jagr era pointy beak penguins jerseys. Fire.

[@KristianWontroba]

@ The Robo 🐧 was 🔥!

[@sideline.archive]

@@KristianWontroba great name too

[@iwanegerstrom4564]

Changing logo is a big step. It doesn't look too bad to be honest, but having it as your primary symbol is a big deal to many fans

[@theleap2946]

That Islander logo was very on brand for the 90s. But it was fitting they chose that logo due to the weirdness surrounding Spano. To this day he contends he was a few days away from pulling it off. Oh well.

[@Placid333]

The Islanders' AHL minor league affiliate, the Bridgeport Islanders, are using the Fisherman logo this season (2024-25). He's all over the website. There's even a huge painting on the side of their arena of the Fisherman.

[@sideline.archive]

I must travel by land and sea to see this shrine to Nyles. Incredible.

[@Rockin_Ross]

I for one like the logo and whenever I’m clowned about it, I come back with, “C’mon…you know you want fish sticks now”. I always get a laugh from that and they walk away happy.

[@sideline.archive]

Brilliant!

[@Jiltedin2007]

The Islanders were never the same after Mike Bossy, Brian Trottier, Dennis Potvin and Bobby Nystrom. Along with Goalie Billy Smith and Coach Al Arbour. Now 40 years after that Islanders Hey Day, I can’t see the New York Islanders ever repeat that success they had in the Early 80’s. Their major upset over the powerhouse Philadelphia Flyers in the 1980 Stanley Cup Finals will forever be “Frozen in Time” considering that the Number One Flyers were a good 25 points better than the Islanders.

[@RequiredFields]

The logo change didn't ruin the dynasty. The dynasty had been over for just over a decade when the Islanders changed their logo in the mid-1990s. They were starting a long rebuilding phase by this point.

[@nn26376]

The Devils didn't move to New Jersey until 1982, right after the Islanders' third Cup, so saying the Islanders were underdogs to the Devils from their beginning is ludicrous.

[@sideline.archive]

“Underdogs in New York”. Despite their success they were never as relevant as the Rangers certainly. And after the Devils cups, them too!

[@sebtalkssports]

Another banger!🔥

[@sideline.archive]

@@sebtalkssports ‘preciate you

[@charminultrasoftbear]

I saw a random guy in rural Mexico google maps wearing one of those jerseys

[@guyincogneto8979]

His other shirt is a Seahawks over Patriots Super Bowl victory t shirt. All the refuse winds up down south.

[@sideline.archive]

Incredible.

[@charminultrasoftbear]

@@sideline.archive should have screenshotted it but it was in Juarez near El Paso Texas

[@wiovelli]

You should make a video about the most strange but cool football shirt sponsors like Fiorentina Nintendo, Ed Sheeran Ipswich Town etc

[@sideline.archive]

Tell me more about Ed Sheeran Ipsiwch town?!

[@wiovelli]

@@sideline.archive fan of the club so he sponsored their shirt

[@guyincogneto8979]

I remember seeing the Fish Sticks jersey for the first time in that clip during that Rangers series. Wasn't bad enough they were being pummeled in that series, then THAT surprise?!? I boycotted the Islanders for the "Fischler" years ( not that they cared or noticed ). Even when they compromised and put the classic crest on those idiotic wavy lines....NOOOOO. It's no wonder I have no memory of Wendel Clark as an Islander.

[@sideline.archive]

Wait - so they previewed it DURING the Rangers series in 1994!? This changes everything!

[@guyincogneto8979]

@@sideline.archive yeah, that clip, if memory serves, was during one of those blowouts and I remember wanting to slap Bill Clemente with his, "I like those...." quit towing the company line, Bill. They're horrific.

[@ll7868]

No need to bring Wayne Gretzky into this, he was nowhere near the 1994 Stanley Cup. As a Canucks and Gretzky fan I wouldn't have been as disappointed in Game 7. I didn't riot as I had left Vancouver for a job in Winnipeg during Round 2 but I get it, that was heartbreaking. Mark Messier wasn't very well liked in Vancouver, Wayne had a lot of fans there. Wayne was a Ranger in 1996 after a short stint in St. Louis. Mark Messier, if he wasn't already the most hated man in Vancouver when he became the Canucks Captain in 1997 he certainly was by the time his horrible 4 years of no-playoffs tenure in the city was over. Missing the playoffs during a rebuild is forgivable, it happens to every team, but he took Wayne Maki's #11 to wear himself, Wayne died of brain cancer in 1974 and the Canucks unofficially retired his jersey, that was a sh!tty move, very disrespectful and unprofessional. If you were living in Vancouver during Messier's run as a Canuck you would see quite a few unhappy fans wearing #11 Canuck jerseys with "MAKI" on them instead of "MESSIER", my buddy Rob had one.

[@ryanjacobson2508]

Folks who defend this garbage could use an introductory course on graphic design. When it comes to both logos and uniforms, you should strive to emphasize certain colors and details but make sure not to overdo anything to the point that the eye will be overwhelmed. And the design should have well balanced colors and geometry. The Islanders new look violated of basic principle of a good look. The colors and shapes are not proportioned well, and suddenly there's a stupid new logo apparently designed by a child or a stoned teen dominating the jersey.

[@krispykreme3176]

Shoutout to the hockey guy lol Loved that

[@sideline.archive]

@@krispykreme3176 he’s awesome, such detailed breakdowns.

[@krispykreme3176]

@ Absolutely, surprisingly fair and unbiased takes just loves the sport

[@ThatUKGatorGuy]

A logo I love bit thankfully(i guess) didn't live through the tough era it represents. A relatively new Islanders fan of the last 3-4 years I stand by the merchant being class all round.

[@sideline.archive]

It’s my guilty pleasure. Just wish I didn’t sell that jacket. When I was putting this film together every new clip made me regret it more.

[@ThatUKGatorGuy]

@sideline.archive if you love something set it free. If it comes back it was meant to be. You'll find each other again.

[@ElectrifyingUno]

Theres worst logo rebrands. The 49ers helmet lasted one day before fan outrage changed it back. The black Toronto BlueJays J was awful, the Dolphins sea world whale logo, the Sabres bullhead logo, the Cleveland Browns jerseys in the Manziel era, the Washington Commanders, etc.

[@sideline.archive]

The Dolphins kept their Sea World logo though! You're right. That was a truly terrible rebrand. I hate the new tredn for putting the city name in block text above the numbers. Horrible.

[@ll7868]

My old Pee Wee team from the 70s/80s uses the "Captain Highliner" logo with "Fishermen" where "Islanders" is, they're called the Selkirk Fishermen so it works, still makes me think of that tv ad "Have ya ever been to sea, Billy?"

[@steveackerman5066]

I’m shocked it made a comeback. I’m still haunted by how I was made fun of by the Ranger fans at school.

[@sideline.archive]

Hahaha are you a Long Islander?

[@johnm8096]

Gotta be some Ziggy Palffy fisherman jerseys out there.

[@guyincogneto8979]

Poor Ziggy, he deserves better.

[@sideline.archive]

If you find any let me know. Immediately.

[@MIYDNA]

I was at a save the islanders coalition (STIC) meeting - this was TOUGH times

[@sideline.archive]

That’s amazing haha!

[@ThatUKGatorGuy]

Ive also been eyeing a Shain of Canada islanders jacket recently. 1970s i think? Correct me if im wrong...

[@sideline.archive]

Correct! The “original original” Canadian Satin. Send me the tag and I’ll dig through all the info I have for it. With the traditional Long Island logo? Block color, orange white blue?

[@ThatUKGatorGuy]

@sideline.archive I'll ping you a link

[@timomajere]

The dumb logo didn't ruin the franchise, Mike Millbury did. Not some silly image.

[@sideline.archive]

Loved a trade did ol'Mikey

[@timomajere]

@@sideline.archive also signed a few 'interesting' contracts too 'cough' DiPietro 'cough' The sad part is that they could NOT blame him for that logo really. I still think of Highliner fish sticks whenever I see it.

[@sideline.archive]

@@timomajere Still hate that Luongo trade.

[@timomajere]

@@sideline.archive we don't talk about the Luongo trade...

[@BarryMaple]

​@@timomajere The DiPietro contract was Wang.

[@simonpeters9324]

Ive always liked it a lot, honestly

[@sideline.archive]

I’ve love it as a collector - not sure how I would feel if I lived through this era as a fan though

[@nathanherkowitz764]

The problem wasn't the logo, it was that it coincided with the collapse of the team and the soap opera of ownership and management.

[@Hummerbird99]

Of course the logo wasn't the problem but the title makes for more views.

[@mightquinnable]

90's hockey designs are so slick, that most sports tho

[@sideline.archive]

You should check out the Nike NHL Street collection. Insane.

[@blindwatcherseye2229]

That would be a top 10 jersey in the NHL today

[@sideline.archive]

100% - I also say bring back the Kings Burger King jersey!

[@danginader7723]

I can't believe you sold that jacket 😪

[@sideline.archive]

I can’t believe it either 😢

[@iSnags]

One of the best jerseys in the history of sports

[@sideline.archive]

You'll fit right in here!

[@mattmolander4257]

I love that fisherman jersey and the colors

[@sideline.archive]

You and me both bud.

[@charlottecorday8494]

A lighthouse on the front would have been awesome

[@sideline.archive]

I’ve been SAYING this. Glad I’ve found someone who agrees!

[@HoshizakiYoshimasa]

Still think it's odd the NY metro has 3 NHL teams. While Houston doesn't have one. Either Islanders or Devils should eventually relocate

[@Hummerbird99]

Hockey on the East Coast is bigger. Houston is mainly about football.

[@wrxspeed2018]

Cool video we got a bunch of free islander fishermen logo stuff in 1998 in Lowell mass at the Lowell lock monster games the NYI were there affiliate they even used the same style of the jersey look up 1998 Lowell lock monsters hockey jersey you will see what I mean it seems like they just took that design. Change the logo to the lock monsters and just kept everything else the same and change the colors 😆 but I will say they had killer road jerseys the black and purple actually went well together cool video bud 👍

[@sideline.archive]

This is awesome! So they just sent all their unwanted / unsold stuff to Lowell? Was it official islander merch?

[@bobhenry6159]

Pickett, Maloney, Milbury, Spano, Milstein, Gluckstern and the teams terrible arena deal killed the dynasty. There was hope when Charles Wang and Sanjay Kumar bought the team, but that faded when they kept Milbury as GM. As far as changing the jersey, it was a desperate move to change their image. The problem is, the old Blue and Orange was such an icon, the oilers copied it.

[@shawnevans5387]

Bro, Gretzky never won a cup with the Rangers. Didn’t start playing here until 1996-97.

[@sideline.archive]

Yup! Mistake! Well spotted. Watch the rest and let me know your thoughts... Still hate the Islanders, or feel sorry for them at this point?

[@LockeDemosthenes2]

I actually sort of like the logo, but it looks more like an AHL or ECHL logo than anything that belongs in the NHL. Also, once a team reaches dynasty status, their logo tends to become iconic, and changing it is never a good idea. Like, imagine the Yankees, Bulls, Canadiens, Steelers, or Patriots ever changing their logo. It would NEVER happen.

[@FireOnIce77]

The light house patch imo should’ve been the primary logo but only as a third jersey

[@sideline.archive]

Totally. I think they should bring it back today!

[@merc340sr]

I liked the new logo (fisherman). It looked much better than old logo. The new logo without the waves would have been OK.

[@sideline.archive]

I don't get why people hate the waves. I weirdly quite like them!

[@firepa498]

Someone read Nick Hirshon’s book! Good video overall!

[@sideline.archive]

@@firepa498 absolutely I did! Even put it in the description! Seminal book on the subject - really enjoyed it.

[@firepa498]

@ that logo was my childhood. So many fans who didn’t get a chance to experience that dynasty our first introduction to Hockey and the Islanders was that logo. It’s quintessential 90s, no other era would have produced that logo.

[@sideline.archive]

I actually really love it!

[@jamespusey7186]

nice one hugh

[@sideline.archive]

Nice one James!

[@rjcolombe]

If it's so bad, why did they bring it back a few years ago as a third jersey option?

[@jossyjones]

The logo didn’t kill the dynasty. Bad management and the Edmonton Oilers did.

[@sideline.archive]

And Mike Milburys trigger happy trades!

[@billblake9665]

i made sure to get one of those jerseys the second they came out......still have it.

[@sideline.archive]

What brand? Starter? CCM?

[@billblake9665]

@@sideline.archive starter i believe. It is in excellent condition I only wear it during the season. About 3 times a year.

[@WarioSaysSo]

As a logo, the "Fisherman" logo mabey is not better then the original "Islanders" logo BUT-BUT what is for sure, the wave jerseys WAS and STILL are the BEST they have ever worn! The Islanders logo looks good but the jerseys are just SO BORING to look at. They have had some interesting jerseys like the black/silver one, but overall kept the same boring one. Crying out loud, the reverse retro jerseys have not even been a "trying" case. If Islanders had any sence today, they would easily do the 3 following; 1. Start to use the wave jerseys again like in 1996-1998 both home and road including the 2nd logo, the "lighthouse" as shoulder logos. 2. Bring back the Fisherman logo and jerseys as 3rd jersey - and as shoulder logo have the classic "Islanders" logo there. 3. Never use the old jerseys agan. Let them go. The 80's was long ago and they are completely out-dated, boring, creative lacking and inspire nothing.

[@sideline.archive]

Love the lighthouse logo. And I partially agree - but it’s so difficult to say goodbye to a jersey that has so much history attached to it. It feels like an original 6 jersey at this point - you can’t touch it! Look what happened when they tried!

[@kalkella8822]

It was a masterpiece compared to the Anaheim Michelin Man jerseys. They had to get rid of them because the players refused to wear them anymore. To my knowledge it's the only time that has happened.

[@sideline.archive]

Anaheim Michelin Man?! Tell me more!

[@kalkella8822]

@@sideline.archive google image Anaheim Mighty Ducks Wild Wing jersey. You will be floored, and I'm dead serious. I think they wore it like 3 times and then the players refused to wear it any longer.

[@engelmann82]

I totally get the backlash back then…too much of a change too quickly! However I always had a soft spot for the fisherman jerseys! I proudly own a vintage CCM on ice Ziggy Palffy fisherman jersey! It’s one of my favorite jerseys in my collection! 😊 #killermullet

[@sideline.archive]

The Ziggy jersey! Thats awesome, very jealous.

[@engelmann82]

@ thank you! 😊 I love your channel…can’t wait for new videos! 🥳

[@joelfriedman9933]

No Gretzky in 94, he never got another cup his time with the Oilers

[@CalTheHogNosedBat]

I actually liked the Fisherman logo

[@BeersFrontiers]

The idea of NILES just annoyed us ISLES fans of the dynasty era. He was just a cheap gimmick, we wanted a return to glory not garbage marketing strategies.

[@sideline.archive]

I’ve got to give it to them - the name was pretty perfect ….

[@mrfake675]

I don't consider them a franchise after logo. If they win the cap, I'll consider it a lockout year. They don't exist

[@sideline.archive]

Hahaha - I can dig it.

[@dancouver23]

I like the Islanders jersery from the 80's better but I actually like the Fisherman jersey.

[@JustMikeTV]

Bridgeport Islanders i think their called use thr fishermen logo on the current Islanders colors. Looks amazing.

[@sideline.archive]

I’ve gotta check it out! I’m glad someone is still using it

[@ront769]

This new jersey and logo caused me to refer to them as The New York (Captain) Highliners! Ahoy matey!

[@sideline.archive]

Brilliant. Bring back the Highliners!

[@coyotelong4349]

Wasn’t even that bad of a logo. Oozing with 90s nostalgia

[@braddyboy82]

I always thought that logo was awesome -- they just should have kept and incorporated the original bold Islanders colors (blue instead of turquoise, Islanders orange instead of that muted orange) and made the lines on the jerseys straight instead of that dorky wavy style.

[@sideline.archive]

I feel like im the only person on planet earth who likes the weird wavy numbers

[@chrisd3969]

This is how I know I have bad fashion taste because I actually liked those jerseys lol.

[@sideline.archive]

I like them too. Don’t tell anybody.

[@LOSERX1978]

As a random, if the reverse retro was orange I would have bought one

[@ghostcircuitry]

I liked the fisherman logo. I feel like Anaheim is the team that has butchered their logo (and colors) the most. They should’ve stayed purple and teal with the original logo. I also wish Sam Jose stayed with their original shade of teal instead of going more greenish and I prefer their original logo as well. Overall I wish every team didn’t have 20 different jerseys but I understand the NHL is more about selling stuff than retaining legacies.

[@sideline.archive]

More and more people are coming out of the woodwork now saying they loved the jersey! Perhaps it wasn’t that bad after all. I agree - absolutely loved the original SJ teal and chomp spellout logo.

[@maxscameraguy]

I have a Wendell Clark Fish stick jersey! Love it! If anyone is interested on a deeper dive, "We Want Fish Sticks" is a fantastic and very informative read.

[@sideline.archive]

It’s an incredible book - I put it in the description when I uploaded - can’t recommend it enough.

[@maxscameraguy]

Most Islanders fans I talk to are in agreement that if they used the Lighthouse as the main logo it would have gone over much better.

[@bb-gc2tx]

i confirmed with alan hahn the story in his book about a visiting teams back up goalie getting busy in the locker room with a female fan was ron tugnutt lol

[@sideline.archive]

Sens or Jackets era Ron?

[@bb-gc2tx]

@@sideline.archive penguins i was at the game saw him talking to the girl first 2 periods she was wearing the shortest skirt ive ever seen lol at coliseum backups didnt sit on bench they sat in visiting teams entrance tunnel. the girls name was trish they called her trish the dish lol story is jagr walked in on them when he went in get skate fixed