The looming problem facing Red Bull's F1 chasers

[@Ageratos01]

Love that a rookie in Oscar is pushing Lando, there needs to be healthy competition otherwise the so called lead driver is going to not improve and become stale.

[@purwantiallan5089]

Oscar Piastri's 2023 F1 Debut is like a slight mix between Norris's 2019 & Acosta's 2021 Moto3 debut.

[@MsZeeZed]

Norris beat Piastri 2:1 in qualifying & race in 2023. The evidence isn’t there, hanging it on a loaded question asked to a new team principle in his second language is a bit thin. I am sure Piastri will push Norris harder as he develops, but the track-based evidence still says Norris will respond.

[@bakker071]

Like max didn’t improve when he had his teammates in his pocket over the years?

[@djoetma]

@@MsZeeZed That car was build by a team that took Norris wishes as the benchmark though. Ricciardo couldn't drive with it. Piastri was able to work with it despite being a rookie. Also don't forget he won almost everything in junior categories. Don't be surprised when Piastri, despite having way less experience, will actually beat Norris.

[@bjs7442]

@@djoetma The Mclaren wasnt designed around Norris . Mclaren said the car is designed to be quick and they cant factor in a particular drivers preferences. Norris has stated he doesnt like the car as it is. Piastri had a great junior career but so did Lando , arguably even better as Lando won five back to back championships as a rookie and only failed in F2 if you call coming second a failure when driving for an inexperienced team against George Russell and other future F1 drivers. Oscar will beat Lando on occasion thats the nature of F1. he is a very good driver but will he beat him over a season. I very much doubt that in the coming season. There is quite a gap between them.

[@glenrobinson10]

Any potential tension between Lando & Oscar is one of the most manufactured aspects of the sport at the moment.

[@eternal_trashero]

I don't think so. It's been Lando's team for ages. And I doubt he would be too happy if the team started favoring Piastri. His relationship with McLaren is like Verstappen and Redbull.

[@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten]

There is no tension right now, but that can change when they are challenging for wins as often happens when two drivers are close.

[@xGUANdeLUPEx]

This can change in a whim. The grid is the friendliest it's ever been, but a lot of that can end very quickly if the supposed 2nd driver starts outperforming the lead driver. I feel like Norris could already be feeling this pressure from thebother side of the garage and is slowly inching towards the front of his mind. These guys want to win, if there was no drive to, then there would be no sport/competition to watch or sell, and basically no point in it happening.

[@MashifyLV]

Nonsense! There is plenty of potential basis there. If the team continues being just as strong and even improves compared to others, tensions can't not rise between drivers, since they are fighting for such top spots.

[@dannypesek]

Also disagree. I could be wrong, however, I don't remember Norris making as many mistakes in '22 as he did in '23. Part of that would be him pushing more when the car had the potential of podiums, but also pressure from Piastri. I think they have a good teammate relationship, but I think as Piastri's race pace begins to match Norris', then a bit of tension will arise.

[@crispybanana3198]

i think that Piastri's arrival at Mclaren could turn out to be a real blessing in disguise for Norris, being actually pushed by a teammate and having to deal with growing pressure by improving Piastri could make Norris into a tougher driver and that could be exactly what he needs to start winning

[@INDIETRONICJUNKIE]

If Lando can't handle the internal pressure from Piastri, assuming this pressure is the source of his errors, then he doesn't stand a chance against the likes of Lewis, Max and Fernando in a title battle.

[@purwantiallan5089]

Hopefully Norris and Yuu Takasaki can handle their internal pressure well in 2024.

[@santiagomm3878]

I don’t think he has it in him

[@bonifacelukosi9580]

If he had it, he would already be Max's teammate.

[@lrdsn3082]

@@purwantiallan5089 Yuu Takasaki 😭😭

[@kkurzeid]

​@@purwantiallan5089Who?

[@vHiddenAce]

Mr. Saturday earning his name, I think some of us forget (me included) how good Russel is at qualifying. He used to drag the Williams to places it didn't belong, he's still got it, just needs to work on his race consistency. Sundays are the most important days to race week.

[@purwantiallan5089]

Leclerc, Russell, Lanzhu Zhong, Maki Nishikino, and Norris are among them who got "Mr. Saturday" nickname.

[@famingo4363]

In races, George pretends to have everything (tyre management, pace, strategy etc) under control, which he mostly does have, until he has one lapse in concentration

[@djoetma]

You can't change the setting after qualy. It's very likely his setup is suitable for quali and less for the race. Especially when you look at the stats presented in this video. Hamilton drops him most of times in the race, while Russell isn't the slower driver.

[@elosobratto3802]

@@famingo4363 this. Russell is the whole package, the problem is either a lapse of concentration, a misjudge in how aggresive to be in a corner, o pure bad luck

[@askeladden450]

Not true at all. The williams was extremely quali centric and struggled really badly in dirty air and had poor race pace. Secondly, george was much better in races in 2022 than he was in qualis. This year, his consistency was there, he just had lapses of concentration and got unlucky quite a few times.

[@eternal_trashero]

I'd rather have teammates crashing together fighting for the win than no fight for the win.

[@speedsociety9177]

of course as fans thats what we want, the teams want the opposite though

[@lovella_6969]

we as the watcher would, the teams? not so much. But of course they would enjoy their competitor's drivers crashing together.

[@norbertjanssen814]

And that makes you a fan of the sport. If i was in charge i would want to win at all cost and i couldn´t care less if there was competition between my drivers.

[@SmallBlogV8]

You're not a team boss, though.

[@purwantiallan5089]

​@@speedsociety9177why the F1 teams sometimes wanted the opposite?

[@deabreu.tattoo]

hats off to whoever came up with the idea for this video. must be tough to keep putting out content in the off season of racing

[@y_fam_goeglyd]

A lot of the problems between team mates starts because of the sh!t stirring by the media. Hearing versions of, "Are you okay with your team mate (X) getting the updates first?" or "Can you catch up with X in qualifying?" and so on. I've seen it happen time and again. Even good friends can be pushed apart by unwarranted media gossip. This includes online channels...

[@hugoagogo9435]

Totally agree

[@procatprocat9647]

That's their job. That's their industry. Suck it up buttercups.

[@LindaJuffermans]

Welcome to the world of professional sports.

[@Ryan_Radical124]

I agree with this completely! This is an underrated comment and should be first, so most people see it. Verbal attacks are more challenging than physical for anyone.

[@MrFormulaOne2011]

Once those upgrades went on the McLaren, we started to see Piastri's true pace. Silverstone was great, as was Belgium, but when Oscar outqualified Lando at Suzuka, that for me was the confirmation that this man's legit

[@mcseforsale]

Thanks for the performance comparisons. Your presentation of that data is awesome.

[@doktorwort]

The looming problem is how early Red Bull started working on the 2024 car...

[@vanquish7247]

This could be a year where Mercedes have an amazing car but they struggle with the driver rivalry and find it hard to manage strategies. Like 2015/16 again. It would be interesting to see a Mercedes version of Multi 21 happen!!

[@MrSniperfox29]

It will be more interesting to see if Russell accepts being Bottas'd

[@purwantiallan5089]

​@@MrSniperfox29and Mercedes soon getting Ferrari'd.

[@AdityaSharma-gg6rc]

@vanquish7247 i could never understand clearly multi 21. What does that mean? sometimes webber should get a chance to be from no. 2 to no.1? thus multi 21

[@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158]

@@AdityaSharma-gg6rc Basically, order was for Vettel to not attack Webber and thus not risk 1-2 in the race. Vettel disobeyed the orders and overtook Webber. Unless you're asking why was the code called "Multi 21", in which case I have no idea.

[@MrSniperfox29]

@@AdityaSharma-gg6rcMulti 21 means driver number 2 (webber) to finish in front of driver number 1 (Vettel) The reverse being multi 12 for the opposite

[@footballnerd277]

Isn't having a good teammate a good thing? I remember in 2021, Lewis fans bemoaned that Bottas was his teammate. Saying that Sergio being so good was helping Verstappen and Red Bull double up on Lewis.

[@Nick-qx1vf]

Realllyyyy rooting for Oscar - dont think he'll be the No. 2 for very long.

[@project182r3]

You would like to root Oscar.

[@zippyspeedmonkey]

I’m betting one of the other teams quickly picks him up at or before his current contract expires.

[@ShawnFX]

@@zippyspeedmonkey Horner have said he really regrets not picking Oscar for their academy team. As much as I want Oscar on RedBull, I don't think it will happen until Max is done with F1 since RedBull wants a clear #1 and 2 driver lineup. Oscar will definitely be the #1 driver

[@selder_7]

There shouldn’t be a battle between Leclerc and Sainz, Ferrari needs to put Sainz in his place. “You’re slower than Leclerc and the car is slower when it’s to your liking. We are behind Leclerc, and so are you” that’s it.

[@Kimmurial333]

Wild educated guess here but I think piastri will leave Norris in the dust once he gets tyre management under control. Kid has had a Stella debut and Norris, while still young in age is actually quite experienced in F1 so not sure how much more he can evolve relative to piastri. 2024 is going to be lit

[@David_JF]

Realistically there'll only be a title fight if precisely one of these three teams improves a lot and the others don't. Otherwise they'll still take too many points off each other I'm assuming none of them outright leapfrog redbull

[@natjes6017]

Great vid to start the year off😁 One of the channels best yet!

[@purwantiallan5089]

No doubt. One of the best channels alongside FIA WRC, WEC, and IMSA.

[@michaeltelfer3483]

All three have solid number 1s in Leclerc, Lando and Hamilton and good 2nd driver backups. Sainz race management is such a myth

[@greenfj1466]

Sainz is more of a 1.5th driver dont you think?He isnt miles off leclerc but at the same time he isnt on his level

[@michaeltelfer3483]

@@greenfj1466 agree with that. Solid in the midfield but not good enough at the front

[@dylanburston7453]

@@michaeltelfer3483 Hes definilty fast enough to challenge Lewis and Alonso, but not the raw pace monsters of Max and Charles. Hes better than Lando, who cracks under pressure from a rookie teamate with no race pace, and Russel and Perez spend far too much time inspecting the tech pro.

[@lukenoonan3898]

Merc don't have a number 1

[@BKKLB]

The notion that a near equal performer in the car is the best for a team is an unproven idea. Besides Rosberg, every drivers champion over the last 20 years has enjoyed a performance delta over their team mate. These are highly motivated individuals, they don't need their team mate to push them when they have 18 other world class drivers they are competing against.

[@benben3409]

Sainz will NEVER truly challenge Leclerc. Leclerc and Sainz were matched before Leclerc got the upgrade if you remove Leclerc's bad luck, but even then, Leclerc was ahead. In 2021, Leclerc was the clear faster driver in races and qualifying, but had so much bad luck he lost to Sainz. Sainz can only challenge Leclerc if Leclerc has a bad set-up and bad luck, and that bad set-up will no longer be a problem if they just relax with a 1-2 dynamic.

[@MohamedLamkhizni]

You mean he won in singapore and the other zero wins in 2023 and after singapore sameone cry to his Boss said he not confortable with the car funny excuse for losers and since Suzuka to the end of the season the car become on not sainz like to drive it sond familar is that whay checo so fans and the others delusionals cry said the car not suit him but max i wonder why anyone said the same to Sainz the end so the other beat sainz by ferrari screw him and theirs like in AD with dumb strategy wait for the SC 😂😂😂😭

[@benben3409]

@@MohamedLamkhizni First thing: Leclerc would've still been beating him after Singapore without the engine problem in Bahrain and preferential treatment for Sainz in Italy qualifying (Sainz out practiced him but Leclerc was ahead in Q1 and Q2) and just 2 points behind with the Bahrain engine issue rectified only. Plus, when Leclerc says he isn't comfortable with the car it's a loser's excuse but when Sainz says so it means there's unfair preferential treatment? Seriously?

[@joemills4603]

This is a really well written and presented video.

[@elusiveruse832]

No, Russel is not the toughest teammate Hamilton has had to deal with. What is this revisionist history? Rosberg beat Lewis to a title when Hamilton was in his peak and had a dominant car under him.

[@djoetma]

Rosberg had the same car but when you look at the stats, in terms of speed, the difference was never bigger than it was in that year. Hamilton had a lot of mechanical issues and that's how Rosberg was able to grab the title. Rosberg in terms of speed was way closer in the other two years.

[@titancheat]

​@djoetma rosberg had mechanical issues and also won races. Hence a champion like button.

[@stevenst6337]

@@djoetmastill can’t rate Russel above Nico imo. Although he is definitely better than Bottas or Kovalanien Hamilton’s teammate for his other championships aside from 2016.

[@kareema7855]

Russel is definitely on the pace in quali but is way behind in the race. Cota and Mexico race pace delta was absolutely staggering, with Russel being more than 0.5 seconds per lap slower than Hamilton.

[@NOXXism]

True. Rosberg is a much better racer than Russell is right now. Like not even close. Russell is still in rookie "he just turned into me" mode

[@liukin95]

The team pairing at Mercedes is the most likely to kick-off and turn sour, without a shadow of a doubt. If Lewis gets the preferential treatment in a championship fight, George will not settle for being number 2 and I wouldn't be surprised if he pulls a Verstappen and defies team orders in these instances.

[@JBOB21]

Good video overall, but Russell’s race craft is sooo far from HAM…not even funny…and we know that the better the car will get, the more the gap will grow in HAM’s favour…like a Verstappen or an Alonso, the greater the car, the more pointy and precise…the more champions shine…Verstappen and Perez started the season almost levelled…but the greater the car became, the more Perez could not do what Max was…same will happen with Georgie Boy.

[@SilverScarletSpider]

George Russle and Lewis Hamilton have no synergy and team work. Carlos and Lando are on opposite teams yet display way more cooperation and teamwork

[@ramaanomuravha8575]

This is quality work 👏 👌

[@purwantiallan5089]

100 percent top quality work.

[@NicotineRosberg]

If u really think George is Hamilton's toughest teammate in a Merc so far because of some out of context stat then idk what to tell u.

[@lukenoonan3898]

Out of context stat? Lmao you guys are hilarious. I look forward to the meltdown over the next two years as Lewis gets slower and Russell gets faster and faster going to be fun to watch the crying.

[@StreetComp]

The permanent problem is Verstappen is always faster in the races and no reason why that would change until 2026

[@Leith_Crowther]

Lando and Oscar seem like two really level-headed dudes. I can’t really see their dynamic becoming a problem without some big catalyst.

[@liukin95]

100% agree - some people are too desperate to create fictional friction between the pair when it's clear there's non of that going on at all. They've clearly bonded throughout their first season together as well.

[@arvinwitara6266]

I bet Piastri will get his win first than Norris

[@jdf1stats]

Very interesting video. 👌

[@moorice9841]

RB needs a better second driver to keep it interesting

[@MrSniperfox29]

Correction The fans want Red Bull to have better second driver to make it interesting Red Bull themselves do not need or probably want to make it "interesting"

[@alexpeak16]

Agree but the problem is who to choose? I'm feeling 50/50 on whether Ricciardo can do it. Lawson needs more time at STR/AT (or what it'll be called this year) and none of their other juniors are within touching distance of that drive anyway.

[@benfulford3943]

​@@MrSniperfox29 it depends how close the rest of the field is this season. If they rock up and have a healthy lead again then you are completely correct but if merc, mclaren etc have closed the gap down considerably then they will need both drivers to be performing if they want to fight against Hamilton, Norris, leclerc etc. Obviously as a fan I want to see close competition but I'm expecting it to be another snooze fest this year.

[@purwantiallan5089]

​@@alexpeak16Red Bull should hire Setsuna Yuki as the 2nd RB driver alongside Verstappen and, move Perez to Williams.

[@LimitPro1]

Y'all said that when Albon had a bad season

[@jinzo2678]

Sainz is basically Alonso 2.0. I mean he already went to every team Alonso went to, basically mirroring Alonso's team moves.

[@rockytalkndawoods3057]

"I ain't backend off, I'm Ricky Bobby" - Ricky Bobby

[@ericmcmanus5179]

Piastri is the most exciting new driver since Verstappen. Im really looking forward to seeing what this kid can do.

[@paulbarnett5837]

There's a bit of Verstappen about Piastri

[@spudman2000]

The looming problem is even if other teams match Red Bull, you still need to beat Max over a 24 race season. Good luck with that.

[@famingo4363]

Beating Max is hard, but not as hard as people are making it to be. When other teams catch up, so will the pressure, and pressure causes more mistakes. Not a single driver in history has been proven to be invincible to real pressure, not even Max. Though I don't believe any team will catch up until 2026

[@titancheat]

​@@famingo4363in a competitive car he's pretty good. 2022 leclerc was right there and often made the mistake instead of max. Max isn't 17 anymore, that's the problem.

[@famingo4363]

@@titancheat in 2022 Max made more mistakes than Leclerc, but they went under the radar as the mistakes weren't as costly as they were for Leclerc

[@titancheat]

@famingo4363 sainz arguably made less mistakes than leclerc. He just had the Vegas stuff mess him up. Leclerc is definitely fast but hasn't proven himself in a championship. At least not yet.

[@elisabettabernaudo8325]

​@titancheat and sainz has? They had the same opportunities till now. Sainz couldn't make Leclerc mistakes' in a championship fight because he was never in the fight to begin with

[@stevejh69]

We all to see Russel deliver. But on race day or wheel to wheel he has proved to be a Checo! Good but not great.

[@bbbenj]

Thanks for this review.

[@vishal.016]

No one is gonna touch max in the drivers championship next year. But with the way checo is performing RedBull may be in reach for the constructors

[@purwantiallan5089]

Verstappen gonna stay dominating till maybe 2033.

[@stayfrost04]

All dependent on relative performance of cars. Though unlikely, if the RB lead over the rest remains the same then Perez can mess up all he wants, RB will still comfortably win constructors with Verstappen alone and that is not a hyperbolae. If you remove Perez from the Championship and redistribute his points, RB still wins constructors with a few races to spare with Verstappen alone.

[@dylanburston7453]

If you give him a car and a competent team, Leclerc would challenge max. He has as much, if not more raw pace, and in 2022 made less mistakes than Max. If it were not for his two podium DNFs, the 10 place PU penalty in Saudi and some awfully times saftey cars in Silverstone, Mexico and Vegas, which cost him about 50 points, then he would have easily finished P3, all that in a car he couldnt set up with oversteer in all but 7 races.

[@oussamabendakir1453]

@@dylanburston7453 i like charles and i also think he is so fast but wtf is this : " in 2022 made less mistakes than Max". i think the first time max damaged his car in 2022 was in interlagos when he collided with lewis (for me you can't even call that 100% max fault) and if you are talking about mistakes in qualy not having a lot of poles you need to realise as much as the rb18 and 19 are great in sundays it makes them harder on saturdays so you can't blame the ferrari lack of pace in saturdays without saying that it helps in qualy and vice versa with redbull. also max was comfortably better in qualy vs lewis in 2021. so just explain " in 2022 made less mistakes than Max" please.

[@dylanburston7453]

@@oussamabendakir1453 Verstappen Spun in spain (still got the win because leclercs engine went bang from miles in the lead) and Hungary (still got the win because Ferrari put hards on) he went wide and thus ran over debris damaging his floor in Silverstone, costing him at least p3, and he locked up massivly in singapore, coting him 5 or so positions, and then Brazil was a toss up, i dont consider it maxs mistake Leclerc spun in Imola, which cost him about 3 positions, crahed out of the lead in france, and went off on the final corner in suzuka costing him one position. So, to explain. Max made 4 mistakes. Leclerc made 3. 4 is more than 3.

[@bjs7442]

I cannot understand when journalists say it cost $20million to replace Danni with Oscar so it was a very expensive gamble that has paid off. If Oscar had not been signed it would have cost them $20million anyway to have Danni in the seat and that was in his contract and was in Mclarens budget for 2023. It cost Mclaren whatever Oscars wages $1million perhaps. In fact so that Danni was a free agent my understanding is he had a reduced figure in which case Mclaren were better off.

[@richardashton5015]

No matter which way you look at it, Lewis will not be getting that 8th. The ship has sailed and Merc can do nothing about it, hence they can't move on.

[@oussamabendakir1453]

what about 2026? if he can still be fast maybe merc will produce the better engine by a mile again

[@MohamedLamkhizni]

​​​​​@@oussamabendakir1453until then injoy watch f1 in the coming years untill 2026 new regulations changes 😂 PS. Also what about Red bull Ford in 2026 and after it 😂 And also lewis contract is end in 2025 and no one know he be after it and in 2026 he 41 so think about it and i think Mercedes will have realy strong powerful engine in the new regulations in 2026 now in the courent regulations they have one but in this regulations is all about aerodynamics and red bull have the best aerodynamic even in Mercedes domination era red bull was have mabe the best aero only their PU slower them especlly Renault lets see what happen this season 😊

[@oussamabendakir1453]

@@MohamedLamkhizni i don't know why you typed all of that i just said that merc having an engine advantage is a possibility in 2026 so if lewis stay until then he will have a chance

[@karannair823]

Carlos is by far my favorite f1 driver on the grid rn ….just because he is so nice

[@purwantiallan5089]

I also picked Sainz Jr and Norris as my favourite F1 drivers alongside Ayumu, Shioriko, Verstappen and Setsuna.

[@djoetma]

Do you know him personally?

[@mikasr.5]

Being nice won’t win championships

[@soundscape26]

​@@mikasr.5It's rare but Button and Hakkinen managed to do it.

[@LukemanHakim]

@@soundscape26 and Kenshin Himura.

[@brianespinosa9152]

Super accurate! Love your videos!

[@alicekoppenol-pitti6257]

A strong driver pairing means managing the egos, the strategies, the expectations of the car and managing the respective fanbases. Every driver is there to perform for themselfs and their take on responsibility to the team is to keep the car in one piece and bring it over the line as quickly as possible. A strong or weak teammate is of no consequence to them as shown many times by the greatest in the sport. I found it highly amusing that Gary Anderson put the pairing of Verstappen and Perez on number 10 because of Sergio's performance which was partly due to the drivability of the RB19. Pierre Wache said in a recent interview that the only regret they had is that they couldn't get both drivers to perform well in the RB19. That is one thing they are planning to rectify with the RB20. If that is the case than I suggest we have this conversation again about strong driver pairings.

[@MrReese]

9:33 That is a very weird quote and I am not sure that is a helpful mindset. 10:12 One would be hard pressed to find two colors that are closer together than the ones you chose there to distinguish two drivers.

[@davidbennettracing538]

You can tell it’s the off season when tripe like this gets made…

[@puertoricanvtec]

It’s funny how this year everyone focus on qualifying pace, now that they were even in qualifying results. But last year when Lewis beat him in qualifying, everyone wanted to focus the standings. This year since Lewis dominated Russell in standings, they just brush it off to find ways to make Russell look like he’s even or perhaps better than Lewis. Man it must be hard to be Lewis, lol man can’t get it right no matter what he does, they will always try to downplay his performance/accomplishments.

[@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1]

Yup lmao it’s funny to watch this all play out

[@quigglyz]

If Ham is the gReaTEst dRivEr oF aLL tiMe, why is Russell so close to him? Surely that means Russell is the 2nd greatest driver of all time, no? 😘

[@Devonald1998]

​@@quigglyzHamilton dominated him in race pace wiich showed up in the standings.

[@chrisvienneau3402]

I don't really see what you're seeing. Everyone has pretty clearly said Russell had a bad season and wasn't as good as Lewis. But it's still competitive in qualifying. Even last year, depending on how you calculate, correcting for wet sessions, sessions where only one driver made it through to Q2 or Q3, etc... Russell was actually slightly faster that Lewis. Either way they're within a tenth of each other both seasons.

[@puertoricanvtec]

@@chrisvienneau3402 see you just proved my point. Last year Lewis beat Russell in head to head qualifying, yes?? But yet no one talked about that, only the standings was talked about. This year Russell gets dominated in the season, now u and everyone wants to bring up qualifying peace. The beats him standings nothing said, man ties in him qualifying, Russell is better at qualifying. So I’m confused when Russell ties him in qualifying that’s more important than when Lewis beats him in standings??!? Man can’t catch a brake is the point I was making.

[@michaelp4122]

Max Verstappen is their biggest problem, even if RB isn't fastest, Max will still win.

[@looneyclassics]

No he won't. Without the fastest car he will not win . He did not win anything until 2021

[@michaelp4122]

​@@looneyclassicsYou could make that argument for every driver. 2023 Max shattered records in a car that was about as dominant as the 2019/2020 Benz. He might end up GOAT.

[@joriux]

@@looneyclassicsuntil 2021 Merc’s were untouchable and Max was still winning here and there, building his skills and knowledge.

[@looneyclassics]

@@joriux max was winning due to luck and at tracks like monaco and Mexico and Brazil, Redhill always had the fastest car . If max was winning some races due because he was that good, why did he not just win them all

[@joriux]

@@looneyclassics Luck, fastest car, why not winning all...yeah, seems you need to learn more about F1 and motorsport in general :)

[@AdrianJames28]

I think Russel will never get the edge on Hamilton but will think he can, which is the source of their conflict. LeClerc is just better than Sainz, only reason they were close mid-season was the car setup needed to be compromised. But The Norris and Piastri narrative will flip, Norris can't handle the pressure and is already at his peak and Piastri will be better than him within 2-3 years.

[@JuergenGDB]

Call me old, but Russel reminds me of some of the bandmates of Duran Duran. LOL 2024 I hope is more exciting than 2023. Have been a Huge F1 fan from the likes of the SPEED Vision of 1995, the only other chance to have watched F1 back in the 80's if it was only like Monaco or maybe Spa.

[@anthonya.6688]

Piastri & Norris. Yin & Yang

[@rulifaller8474]

Sainz went up against a Verstappen in his second season actually driving a car. Vs current Verstappen he would be obliterated. And when both are comfortable in the car he also is way behind Leclerc. In short, if Sainz is close to Leclerc consistently, that is bad news for Ferrari, because Leclerc must be underperforming. Of all these drivers I think Sainz is closest to Perez (the Perez that is not putting unrealistic pressure in himself. To beat Max)

[@selder_7]

Russell was a jr for Mercedes when they were winning everything, is one of the very free to have won F3 and F2 on the bounce and against major talent, stayed at Williams for 3 years (2 where they were 10th and he could do nothing but agonise over trying to get a point) waiting for his shot, would’ve beaten Bottas and won on a one off at Merc at Sakhir but was denied by two things going wrong out of his control, finally got his shot at Mercedes right as they stopped making the best car and he can’t fight for wins nevermind titles, and now is stuck with Hamilton as a teammate way beyond when people thought he would retire all because Michael Masi wanted a show and Hamilton is hellbent on getting that 8th title which is proving disastrous for Russell because Hamilton is the better driver still. Russell must be utterly livid with how not to plan things have gone and it absolutely will blow up at one point. His crash with Bottas at Imola and the aftermath was the mask slipping, it’ll happen again

[@lukenoonan3898]

Hamilton won't be the better driver for long. If he can't get his qualifying sorted, he will start behind Russell more often than not. And Russell will do everything he can to keep him there.

[@BrownHotPot0096]

not sure why you forgot about AM considering there isnt apline size gape between Ferrari, and Mclaren, it this recency bias?

[@ankitbera1482]

recency bias

[@ultrascreens5206]

Because there is no team battle lol Alonso dominated him. Thats why they pretty much skiped RB too

[@MashifyLV]

@@ultrascreens5206 how is it even possible to skip RB in a video that talks about their chasers...?

[@soundscape26]

Because there's no battle between Alonso and Stroll.

[@raymondlg7815]

Let me get this straight! Holding 2 charging Ferraris at bay and one Merc with a new car while getting/securing P2 IS UNDERPERFORMING!!!!!!? WHAT THE .....

[@project182r3]

Championship standings confirm Russell IS NOT the closest Mercedes team mate he’s had. What absolute horse shit.

[@lukenoonan3898]

Cry

[@timmanto1022]

I think the most interesting aspect of F1 is the bottom half and potential for new teams to takeover old ones. The terrible 3 of Haas, Williams & Alpha Tauri are all ripe for takeover. Lots of opportunities there for a new big 3 with the right group and drivers over the next decade.

[@revvedupRacingSA]

Happy new year gentlemen

[@johndansby3620]

So, let me see if I have this straight…George steals points from Lewis, Sainz steals points from LeClerc, Piastri steals points from Norris…mean while Perez and Alonso are somewhere in the middle mucking up this pack…splendid!

[@gerarduspoppel2831]

Can you imagine if his first win is in England? That will be a party

[@mrw1783]

To be fair to Alonso his car dropped off. I suspect the wily old fox would have had something to do with it if his car was quicker

[@biggallcaps]

This 'teammate drama' kind of thing has always struck me as childish and unnecessary. All the long time diehard F1 fans that defend this just goes to show that they are fans of a reality show rather than actual racing. I think F1 would be way better if built cars for each of their drivers independently instead of building one car concept around one driver in a 'survival of the fittest' bs team game show. Most other racing series have teams that actually work together to beat the rival teams rather than force their drivers to be crabs in a bucket. It's just silly. Race the other teams, not each other

[@tennisplayerjoe]

Always shitting on checo…. What about George’s shitty year? Or everyone else qualifying gap to Max…

[@jason14444]

Context is everything, Lewis sacrificed most of that first season to get the car in good order. Russell will never excel with Lewis in the team, you put him on a Pedestal he will never achieve, pay attention to The Canadian GP

[@danielainger]

Let’s face it no one is catching Redbull until maybe 2026. Newey is in his element with these current regs.

[@sz5876]

I wonder what Rosberg Hamilton would have been like without DRS. Ben's "th" pronunciation is right on, so refreshing, the th to f thing gives me audiOCD.

[@patepulkkinenvtec2403]

Russell the toughest Mercedes team mate Lewis has had? You've got to be kidding me. Rosberg gave a much harder time for Lewis than George has. Having one-lap pace as the sole indicator as to how tough a certain team mate is is simply ignorant.

[@loetomagang1438]

Finally. Someone with sense. One data point over 1 season? Shoddy research at best. Leaving out race pace. Absolutely disgusting "research" methodology

[@joshn1678]

I think Lewis will remind people how good he is if Mercedes gets their car right. George isn't even close to his ability yet. Lewis has won 7 world championships, and was one lap away from beating Max in 2021, who everyone thinks is unbeatable right now, and I doubt Lewis has gotten worse in just a few years. George might be quick, but there's no way he has the ability to win multiple races over a season, he's too emotional right now, he needs to improve his tyre management and race pace and learn to stay calm during a race. There's no way he is able to hold it together over an entire season right now in a championship fight.

[@joshuarodriguez7653]

I love the spice rating

[@EastsideBodega_]

I think Mercedes expected Sir Hamilton to have retired by this point. And their Lineup Would’ve been Russell and Bottas. Instead they had to promote Russell to keep from losing him and as a result him n Lewis are both competing to be #1 which is ultimately harming some of Mercedes performance.

[@Full_Beans]

3:12 but the car isn’t that good, Lewis said multiple times he can’t get the most out of the car because he can’t feel the rear. Russell doesn’t have that experience and any car he is in, is the best car he’s ever driven. If they figure out the W15, I’m sure we’ll see that gap increase.

[@dylanburston7453]

They were the only team, other than RB, who had a car in that could contend for podiums every weekend, other than Brazil. Ferrari had no race pace until Canda (8 races) Mclaren had no pace until Austria/Silverstone (9/10 races) and AM had downgrades on the car from Canada to COTA(10 races) They were outscored by all these teams when they had comparable cars. It was clearly the 2nd best car of the year, so saying the car isnt that good is straight up wrong

[@bonifacelukosi9580]

@@dylanburston7453 It's by Merc's standards. They went from building the best thing with 4 wheels to a car with 2 design philosophies in 1. If a Merc ain't winning it's a bad Merc.

[@dylanburston7453]

@@bonifacelukosi9580 Merc have never built good cars, except in 19 and 20. They just built OP engines, and their gap was protected by the engine token system, just like how Reanault is now comfortably the worst and cant do much about it. And im not sure theyll figure out th w15. They exetued one of their senior engineers in mike elliot, have lost their performance dirctor, Serra, to Ferrari and then a small army of PU engineers to RBPT. Even if there car is good, their strategies were a joke (worse than Ferrari somehow) because they lost Vowles to Williams, and their drivers keep crashing into each other and their pitstops are bad because Toto is more intrested in talking shit about other teams (mostly RB) than leading his own team

[@bonifacelukosi9580]

@@dylanburston7453 We're talking about cars here not the entirety of the team. Yes Merc are in the shitter. And Merc have built well rounded cars from 2018 to 2021. You're forgetting Ferrari messing with their fuel sensors and Honda catching up with engine development in 2021.

[@MohamedLamkhizni]

Blablabla excuses and more excuses 😂😭

[@brendonnoble5227]

I have to disagree with the Leclerc/Sainz comparison, Leclerc is the golden boy and Ferrari usually base strategy around him.

[@kartikkaushik9811]

Not going to mention that last year Sainz and Leclerc had the smallest race pace gap of any 2 teammates on the grid with Sainz leading?

[@kitko33]

The biggest problem for Mercedes and Ferrari is that they don't have top class drivers capable of developing the car and being able of winning in a car that's not the best and the fastest by a postcode.

[@SilverScarletSpider]

0:36 The fortunate thing is that this chart is 100% meaningless because this channel is biased towards Mercedes

[@quigglyz]

I NEED Ham and Rus to clash in 2024

[@MattBakerDrums]

Not a performance factor, but Carlos Sainz improves the vibes of every team. Underrated skill set, albeit not one usually key to that final winning percentage.

[@adelawu8651]

2:17 Come on, how many wet condition quali in 2023? Eliminate changing weather condition can not represent 2023 at all. 😅

[@sm70911]

Ahh come off it Piastri Nozzer is already a 4 spice rating. - Norris needs a win in the first 6 races because Piastri is experienced now and will come out of the gate hard

[@Mr_Phil_B]

Looking forward to seeing how lando and Oscar do this year when it counts.

[@yafmaverick]

Saying that Max’s performance is only due to the car is so ignorant. It’s his driving style joined with the car is what made the season as it was. Checo had the same car and his performance was mediocre at best throughout the season. It’s not only about the car.

[@Aubergineman18]

Wait what about Aston Martin?

[@jamie3499]

Stroll. Enough said.

[@TW6-ny7do]

lol, beat me to it 😂

[@LimitPro1]

Stroll

[@alokv4]

Sainz and Hamilton like rear ended Car, Russell and Charles like front end car. Mercedes going the rear ended car, while Ferrari moving towards front ended car to suit Leclerc. Russell and Carlos will be disadvantaged by this. So the best team would have been Sainz and Hamilton in Mercedes and Charles and Russell in Ferrari

[@FrancisFjordCupola]

I would not rate Mercedes' driver line-up very highly. I'd rate it highly toxic. Like Alonso already noted years ago, Hamilton can only drive in front. Russell kept going hard throughout 2023, Hamilton just gave up. They did not collide in Qatar. Hamilton rammed Russell. When Hamilton claims he wants to train Russell, all he says "stay back there boy." Leclerc is pretty fast. Over a lap. When he doesn't make unforced errors. And he's not as fast as Verstappen; Charles takes poles because he sacrifices race speed for the Saturday qualifying. Sainz is pretty good and has his head attached to his shoulders and his brain turned on. You can compare Leclerc and Sainz to Senna and Prost, only with just a bit less talent and titles. But they are good drivers, Charles will take the top step again. Sometime. Norris and Piastri is also an interesting pairing. Norris has about the same level as mental toughness as Leclerc. Piastri is good, still needs to figure out some of that tire management. Norris is improving on his mental health though, thanks to Piastri. One can measure Lando's growth by less pranks and unfunny jokes and more results.

[@MA-ys7sl]

Russel being competitive teammate gonna push Lewis even more and Lewis is very good under pressure. Maybe we can see Lewis like when Rosberg was his teammate. Bottas being his teammate for a couple seasons may have made him loose concentration a bit but we’ll see it this year.

[@pooyakhalili406]

I don't think Ferrari is going to have a problem with Leclerc and Sainz because Leclerc will do almost anything for Ferrari(as we saw in Abu Dhabi), and Sainz is not fast enough

[@dylanburston7453]

They have BY FAR the strongest lineup. How the the race can vote for Mercedes, (unless it was voted for pre season, which i think it was) who have a driver who, out of the teams in this video and AM, only finished above the rookie and the pay driver whilst every other team didnt have the car for at least 8 weekends

[@soundscape26]

@@dylanburston7453 Yes, that was a pre-season vote and George was coming from a season where he beat Lewis. But surely he cannot be a worse driver now than he was a year ago?

[@dylanburston7453]

@@soundscape26 Ye, thought i remembered the video. I think George struggled more with the anti dive front suspension introduced with the Monaco upgrade, because Lewis clearly became better after the upgrade, weras they were close before. I also think George is trying too hard and doesnt let things come naturally, like trying to do Carlos DRS trick just after singapore at Suzuka, and trying to do strategy calls.

[@GoBirds1995]

I hope McLaren will be strong next year. Imagine the raw emotion if Lando gets his first win.

[@funnyvideos.57]

Bring a good car merc we want that ignition

[@ericmcmanus5179]

While I do agree that having a driver pairing that is spicy and tumultuous like Hamilton/Rosberg isn't ideal, I dont think any team in F1 would take a peaceful pairing running in 3rd and 4th or lower versus a bitter rivalry running in 1st and 2nd. Every team boss would take that headache 10 out of 10 times if it meant championship victories.

[@dylanburston7453]

The problem is, Ferrari have two drivers as good (if not better in Leclercs case) than their drivers, and they get along the best out of the competitive teams. RB had checo out of commision for 2/3 of the season, the window licker showed up for about 4 weekends, and Russel was an embaressment, despite having a better car for at least 8 more weekends than the drivers from Ferrari, AM and Mclaren, he only managed to finish above the rookie and the pay driver

[@ericmcmanus5179]

@@dylanburston7453 well, we will see how well the get along if they both are competing for wins and neck and neck for a championship victory. Something tells me they won't be so civil then.

[@ericmcmanus5179]

@@dylanburston7453 the window licker. Hahahahaha. I love that. Definitely the best name for Stroll. That's from rocket powered Mohawk right? Love that guy.

[@dylanburston7453]

@@ericmcmanus5179 I dont think Sainz has the pace to do that, TBH. We saw that from the Suzuka uprade (which finally stopped the car from trying to kill charles if he put a bit of overteer on) he was always 3-4 tenths faster than Carlos.

[@dylanburston7453]

@@ericmcmanus5179 Yeah, wish he uploaded more often. Says it how it is, rips into everyone. Somehow a man in a MG/Bath/Weird studio having an industrial bout of autism is the most trustworthy source on F1 youtube. Think my name for russels better tho, the tekpro terrorist

[@gonzo1354]

Guess The Race will be releasing their own Drive To Survive series.... or maybe they just got bought out by The Daily Mail..... This is just speculative infotainment... to say driver rivalry will seriously impact all three chasing teams is just a fantasy.

[@N_1812]

Yep it’s definitely the off season, The Race is making good driver lineups sounds like a bad thing

[@MENQN]

I only see Mercedes and Hamilton to take it to Redbull and when it comes to qualifying that Hamilton mostly chooses a long race stint set up then setting up for the 1 lap pace because of tyre degregration.

[@T_Mo271]

It's very weird how these videos seem to end by just running out of fuel, without any conclusion.

[@ItsDavidWright]

The comparison between qualifying times and race pace is rather meaningless.

[@cosmostrek2001]

The biggest problem is Ferrari and Mercedes need totally new designed cars 🚗. Mclaren was the best at copying the Red Bull. So they will have to wait to the season starts before the can getting pictures and copy the Red Bull. Then the have to build the parts which will take 2 months. Both champs will be over after preseason testing. No teams are close Red Bull. Just waiting for 2026.

[@MeRacko]

Give Lewis a car he is comfortable in and Russell will be nowhere near him

[@Drrolfski]

Question is: can each of these Red Bull chasers become so good in 2024 that Red Bull can't get away anymore with a clear second driver that leaves too many points on the table?

[@oussamabendakir1453]

to fight for constructors : yes they can. for the drivers title : no.

[@n8pls543]

2023 rather showed that marginal advantages look like domination when the 2nd-5th place teams are all taking points off each other, so if they all get closer? Nah, Pérez will be enough.

[@sleepypixie8828]

This supposed tension between oscar and lando has been blown way out of proportion. I agree Oscar's a great racer but 205 vs 97 show norris was beyond comfortable. Also most of his quali mistakes have come trying to beat max in a red bull. Mind you that mclaren is not a qualifying car in the manner that the ferrari was

[@hypyboy]

It is crazy to me to consider puting the RB lineup in 4th place. Max is soo far ahead of anyone else at the moment, it more than compensates for any weakness his teammate might have. Checo is bad, but not THAT bad either, barely worse than Sainz.

[@Kryptix0III]

Rosberg far out paces Russell lol what is this analysis? Lewis beats George easily in race pace, it’s just qualifying they’re even in.