Here is my first time watching and reaction to The Lord of the Rings!
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@SnaxanReactions4 ай бұрын
Here is my reaction to the Lord of the Rings which was originally recorded a while back but finally edited for KZbin here :) I think I watched this prior to GOT which is why I didn't fully recognize Sean Bean yet. Shout out to my editor because these movies are not easy edits for YT. There's a skill of navigating the minefield of copyrights, and then balancing act of trying to get pacing right, and capture the emotions of the reactor.
@starsmithsforging4 ай бұрын
Great reaction, thank you.
@anthonyrapido58104 ай бұрын
I figured as much. I was like you must have watched this before game of thrones cause there is no way u would forget Ned Stark so easily
@MrGaleanon4 ай бұрын
When you can, enjoy the full versions. The theatrical cuts had almost an hour per movie cut out to fit contracts for movie theatres.
@VadulTharys4 ай бұрын
A few things to remember hobbits dont age like humans, Mary and Pippin are in their 30s Frodo is in his 50s. There was 17 years between the birthday party and them leaving the shire, Elves can choose to become mortals Elrond is called half elven because his father was human and his mother choose a mortal life as did his brother who is Aragorn's Ancestor.
@ny89564 ай бұрын
What vanity it is to film yourself reacting to movies everyone has seen and think that people will want to watch you lol
@NRG054 ай бұрын
I love how newcomers watch the first movie that is like 3 and a half hours and each of them reaction is like, IS IT OVER!? Thats how you know this trilogy is that good.
@EbefrenRevo4 ай бұрын
why u ameritards should transform anything in a some sort of a cult ?!?!?
@edgarzamora38613 ай бұрын
its always at the beginning "it is almost 4 hours!" just to end up "it is over?"
@primal12334 ай бұрын
The Lord of the Rings trilogy is the greatest trilogy ever made
@abdurrehmanali74 ай бұрын
Number One Trilly!
@MegaForrestgump3 ай бұрын
The Lord of the Rings trilogy is the second best trilogy. The greatest is The Lord of the Rings Extended Edition trilogy.
@WJS7742 ай бұрын
Agreed, though it's only really decisive since Star Wars has _six_ films instead of three.
@andralfoo15 күн бұрын
@@WJS774 I think lord of the rings is better than both star wars trilogies (the original one and the prequels) both on their own and together. Star wars is still one of the best stories out there tho, it just doesnt stand up to lord of the rings to me
@quoniam4264 ай бұрын
Sam's frienship is directly taken from Tolkien's officer servant during his service in the British Army during WW1. Officers had a dedicated stewart who tended their every needs. Tolkien found the guy very devoted and nice and thought that he, himself, didn't deserve so much dedication. And so it became Sam's character.
@crazyoldbat4 ай бұрын
they called it a "Bat Boy" WHY? I don't know
@TomorrowWeLive4 ай бұрын
*batsman@@crazyoldbat
@current93004 ай бұрын
In Tolkien's own words "My 'Samwise' is indeed (as you note) largely a reflexion of the English soldier-grafted on the village-boys of early days, the memory of the privates and my batmen that I knew in the 1914 War, and recognized as so far superior to myself."
@Zaphods-Third-Arm4 ай бұрын
Wow, I never heard that - thanks for sharing.
@Alexalevins4 ай бұрын
@@Zaphods-Third-Arm yeah literally that sam saving his life in ww1 thats why tolkien made sam in lord of the ring, there is a movie about tolkien life, and why and how he wrote those books, you are gonna understand a lot of the friendship in the lord of the ring based in his own history life
@curtduval4814 ай бұрын
At the Prancing Pony, wasn’t that Frodo was able to catch the ring on his finger, nor was it by chance. It was by design. The ring had a will of its own and wanted to be worn by Frodo.
@dethtongue9454 ай бұрын
There is some precedent for the undead fearing running water in folktales. I think in early stories about vampires they are afraid of running water.
@pabloc88084 ай бұрын
Yeah, LOTR takes place in an world where divine will and fate exist, for a fact. So, since Sauron is a servant of Morgoth (essentially the Devil in Tolkien's world), he and the One Ring can and do influence events, even when it looks like something happened by random chance. The same is true of Eru Ilúvatar, Tolkien's equivalent of God.
@ilikeknives10004 ай бұрын
@@dethtongue945 it's deep water at buckleberry ferry and the horses and themselves are wearing heavy armor also the nine were at the elves border so they were hesitant to go further
@dethtongue9454 ай бұрын
@@ilikeknives1000 Everything you write makes sense. I was just pointing out in old folktales and myths some undead creatures were supposed to be adverse to entering or crossing running water. I think its one of the signature traits of vampires that modern (or even fairly old now) media depictions have stripped from them.
@wildhunt63504 ай бұрын
Vampires are not afraid of of either water nor sunlight, nor running water that's bullshit.
@mycroft163 ай бұрын
Boromir's delivery of "they have a cave troll" is to this day one of my favorite line deliveries ever. The look on his face and the tone of his voice is just perfect. like, "well that's just great, they've got a cave troll. perfect. i love this for us."
@jameshunt92083 ай бұрын
Indeed
@CrippledMerc2 ай бұрын
“We have a Hulk.” 😂
@jfromstate85812 ай бұрын
Kinda a weird line to favor but to each is own I guess 😂❤
@WJS7742 ай бұрын
@@jfromstate8581 It's not the line, it's the delivery he said. _How_ he said it.
@jfromstate85812 ай бұрын
@@WJS774 it was okay ? Many more lines in the film to favor .. that one just doesn’t hit for me 🤷🏽♂️
@foomanchoo19574 ай бұрын
yes the is a connection between frodo and sam. it's called "True Friendship" they are bonded by the good, the hardships they're going through. they are brothers in arms.
@ghyslainabel4 ай бұрын
Not exactly friendship. While the Hobbits are less formal than Men, Frodo is still a noble and master while Sam is a commoner and servant.
@anon27524 ай бұрын
@@ghyslainabel No, its friendship. Noble and commoner may be a factor in how they know each other in the shire, but none of that matters on the quest. They are both just hobbits on a journey in a world far bigger than them which grows them into true friends. Much like tolkiens experience in war, doesnt matter your background, your brothers in arms become your family.
@ghyslainabel4 ай бұрын
@@anon2752 At the end of the quest, in the Land of Shadow and Mount Doom chapters, we see Sam's thought process. He thinks of himself as a servant of Frodo.
@Qualvanda.4 ай бұрын
@@ghyslainabeldude... spoilers...
@ghyslainabel4 ай бұрын
@@Qualvanda. what spoiler? That Frodo and Sam will not end up in a romantic relationship? That is not a spoiler.
@apatheticallyconcerned65743 ай бұрын
I am 42. I went to the midnight release of all three LoTR films. It was incredible. For those of us who grew up with the books, it was better than we could have imagined, even with the liberties it took with the books. When the credits rolled at the end of each film, the packed audience stood up and cheered and stood around in groups discussing the film. At the end of the third film, people were crying and cheering and giving each other hugs. It was awesome.
@erikpeters83333 ай бұрын
Must have been incredible. When was the last time anyone went to a midnight release of a movie and it blew them away like this? I was only 7 at the time so I missed out
@RedSntDKАй бұрын
Same, and for the 3rd movie there was a marathon where my friends and I sat in that theater for half a day. Well, it was the theatrical versions so it wasn't quite close to 12 hours, but my butt was still so incredibly numb afterwards 😅
@fathertedcrilley39884 ай бұрын
The bit in the bar where the ring falls onto Frodo's finger is the ring itself trying to be found
@terrylandess60724 ай бұрын
It sticks to Bilbo's palm, it manages to leaves Frodo's neck in the mountainous snow - that ring is a menace and should be locked up. :P
@NevermadeMovies4 ай бұрын
Without a doubt. In the behind the scenes documentaries they say they constantly thought of The Ring as its own character, with motivations and goals and shot it as such.
@jefflarkin96194 ай бұрын
The ring put Frodo on.
@the-nomad-show4 ай бұрын
@@terrylandess6072 Some would even go as far as to say it should be destroyed! (I'm not a among them through 😛)
@tajemna994 ай бұрын
"It wants to be found.." exactly
@alexmarkadonis71794 ай бұрын
Gandalf to Frodo: "don't be so quick to deal out death and judgment." Gandalf to Pippin: "throw yourself in next time, and rid us of your stupidity."
@Makkaru1124 ай бұрын
Which doesn’t make sense because in the books Gandalf wouldn’t do that
@digitalnomad99854 ай бұрын
@@Makkaru112 That line was in the book, just not in the Chamber of Marzabul. If he was dealing out death, Pippin would be dead.
@TheJerbol4 ай бұрын
The difference between a figure of speech and actually wishing death
@huntclanhunt96974 ай бұрын
Even the wise say stupid things when angered.
@mistrants27454 ай бұрын
@@Makkaru112 Its literally a book line lol
@BobBlumenfeld4 ай бұрын
Boromir's peace in his last few moments came partly from the realization that he had convinced Aragorn to protect "his people," the people of Gondor. He knew then that he was not dying in vain.
@Makkaru1124 ай бұрын
In the books they were going purposely split up by then anyways because Aragorn WAS going to go to Minas Tirith with Boromir. ❤
@huntclanhunt96974 ай бұрын
And realizing he'd been forgiven for what he'd done wrong.
@BobBlumenfeld4 ай бұрын
@@Makkaru112 Well, for that matter, they changed Aragorn's intentions completely. In the book, he symbolically receives Anduril repaired at the Council of Elrond and sets out to regain the throne of Gondor right from the beginning. "Renewed shall be Blade that was Broken. The Crownless again shall be King."
@timgilbert30513 ай бұрын
"Duty is heavier than a mountain but death is light as a feather."
@WJS7742 ай бұрын
@@Makkaru112 Well, that was his plan _before_ Gandalf died. He had planned to go to Gondor with Boromir and let Gandalf take the hobbits to Mordor. After Gandalf died, leaving him in charge of the group, he didn't really know what to do at all. If he goes to Gondor like he had originally planned, he would be abandoning the hobbits. But he felt that the time had come and that it was his destiny to return to Gondor. I don't think he actually made up his mind what to do before the breaking of the fellowship and Boromir's death rendered the question moot.
@charactersmoreorthree4 ай бұрын
There is no need to gay code Frodo and Sam. Not every depiction of fraternal love must be converted to fit "modern audience" expectations.
@blanketstarry77254 ай бұрын
I'm really surprised that comes up, even in todays climate. If any two would have that put upon them, it would be Merry and Pippen, but there is just no need to go there, regardless.
@quinnmach5354 ай бұрын
This is why men don't like showing affection, because people just call them gay 🙄
@maul424 ай бұрын
@@blanketstarry7725 Merry and Pippen are obviously just bros though, where as Frodo and Sam have a definite love between them that people seem unfamiliar with. But yeah, it's annoying how many people jump to them being gay immediately. People project their insecurity about the possibility of men just being expressive and emotive with their friendship onto the film. And, I mean, we're conditioned to think that all men should be stoic unless angered.
@nemesis48524 ай бұрын
@@maul42 Actually cousins, Frodo, Pippin and Merry are all cousins to one degree or another, (and of the same class) If you catch the conversation in the Pub, He's mentioning the whole family thing. Tolkien included family trees in the one of the appendices at the end of The Return of the King
@marioguidotomasone12654 ай бұрын
Right, they start as master and employee in a healthy and respectful business relation (remember, in hobbit society gardeners are well thought of as any other master craftsmen). They end up as brothers in arms.
@ziusthefirst53874 ай бұрын
The connection between Frodo and Sam is best of friends, brothers even.
@torres33594 ай бұрын
Fraternal love, a concept almost forgotten in today's culture
@modus184 ай бұрын
@@torres3359 It still exists, but is hardly represented in media anymore.
@derekcook82014 ай бұрын
@@torres3359 for real.
@MetastaticMaladies4 ай бұрын
@@torres3359 It exists, but you won’t find it on the internet. That’s the issue for you and others that share your perspective. Live outside more often, log off the internet, meet and talk to real people. Then you may see yourself forming bonds like this and your perspective will change. Too many men look to the internet for salvation, only to become depressed, angry or resentful. It’s counter productive and won’t do you or anyone else any good, and that’s why you need to stop looking for it on the internet.
@huntclanhunt96974 ай бұрын
@@torres3359 It is alive and well, just not shown often in books or movies anymore.
@kvltslime22614 ай бұрын
fun fact: in the books when gandalf goes to check some things it takes him 17 years to figure it out and come back
@Yami-e1y24 күн бұрын
But he did visited Shire from time to time to check on Frodo and the ring.
@jayfe864 ай бұрын
The best way to understand the relationship between Frodo and Sam is to watch interviews with WW2 veterans talking about their fellow soldiers. The bond between them through their shared experience of war is one that nobody that hasnt been through it will never truly understand
@Feuerbach14 ай бұрын
Or moreso a British officer with his Batman in WW1, which Tolkien actually fought in, and said 19 of his 20 closest friends died
@jayfe864 ай бұрын
@@Feuerbach1 rare to see those interviews though. WW2 interviews are far more prevalent which is why I suggested it
@Sindrijo3 ай бұрын
"Grandpa, were you a hero in the war?" Grandpa said: "No... But I served in the company of heroes. :'(" - Dick Winters, Easy Company, WW2
@raimat664 ай бұрын
The relationship between Frodo and Sam is based on a culture of war, where the soldier with a mission has a faithful servant with him, who supports and contributes to facilitate and help. Strong bonds were formed between "master" and "servant", a kind of nice but completely platonic bromance. Tolkien belongs to a bygone Victorian age, when the question of further relationship between men did not even come into question.
@SnaxanReactions4 ай бұрын
Ooohhh I love that 🥹 the loyalty is 🤌🏼
@dkosmari4 ай бұрын
In Old English, "Master" is how you'd refer to a young or unmarried male, as opposed to "Mister" for an old or married male. We still use the distinction for females, "Miss" and "Missis." Most of the time, when you hear the characters saying "Master" to another character, they're respectfully (or sarcastically) addressing somebody they consider young.
@raimat664 ай бұрын
@@dkosmari In Swedish we have two words. Partly "master" which is rather honorific, e.g. for a teacher, etc., partly "junker" which is rather a bit derogatory. It has the same meaning as "young".
@michaelccozens4 ай бұрын
I dunno about that "did not even come into question" thing. It wasn't celebrated openly, sure, but the strict homophobia and toxic masculinity of today is pretty unique. That being said, the intimacy between Sam and Frodo, and between some officers and their batsmen, could be very deep without necessarily being romantic. The British military of WW1, in which Tolkien served, had a custom of every commissioned officer having a non-commissioned "batsman" who was essentially their personal servant (watch the Rowan Atkinson (better known as "Mr. Bean")/Fry and Laurie series "Blackadder" for another example). It comes from a time when the officers were strictly aristocrats, and the non-commissioned were anyone without such a title. The effect of the World Wars (or World War with an interregnum, as some have observed) on British authors is very interesting. Many in WW2 served in the "Special Services", the precursor to modern intelligence/special operation services like the CIA and MI6, as well as the SAS. Ian Fleming, the author of the James Bond books, was one, and the man he was said to have used as the basis of Bond, well-known children's author Roald Dahl, was another. Christopher Lee also famously served with the Long Range Desert Group (LRDG, AKA the "Desert Rats") who were the terror of isolated German airfields throughout northern Africa, though Lee always refused to discuss specifics.
@nordiskkatt4 ай бұрын
@@michaelccozens Yep. There are records of officers in the first world war having distinctly non-platonic relationships with their batsmen. It just wasn't talked about openly. It makes me sad whenever some LOTR fans show themselves so utterly determined to deny the possibility of a romantic connection between Frodo and Sam. Several interpretations of a fictional dynamic can exist at the same time, so it seems sort of.... parsimonious to want to deny people an interpretation that is meaningful to them, and which makes them happy.
@drunkenswordsman33734 ай бұрын
Saying Sam and Frodo are lovers but asking if Arwen and Aragorn are lovers is absolutely mindblowing
@PedranZ4 ай бұрын
2024 smh...insane how we have come to this haha
@TheSinexCN4 ай бұрын
It speaks to how utterly fucked in the brain that the current crop of whatever this batch of "young people" are calling themselves is. Which, in turn, blows my fucking mind. O.o
@Msinangurbuz4 ай бұрын
Too much Netflix affect 😂
@cooldudemosta4 ай бұрын
exactly... I remember as a kid watching this movie when it came out. I remember the friendship of frodo and sam and that they are such good friends...but now look at what we think of friendship bw 2 men....the world has changed. Scary.
@PedranZ4 ай бұрын
@@cooldudemosta couldnt agree more, its insane
@dustinsmith93754 ай бұрын
Arwen can choose mortality because she comes from a family line of half elves. Other elves don’t get a choice
@richardwallis93744 ай бұрын
Her father Elrond chose immortality. Elronds brother chose mortality. She gets to make her choice as well.
@SnaxanReactions4 ай бұрын
That's so beautiful! :( And sad.
@revylokesh17834 ай бұрын
To fully understand the implications, one would have to read the Silmarillion. Arwen, as well as Aragorn, by the way, are descendents of several fateful human/elf couples: Beren and Lúthien, who begat Dior, who begat Elwing. And Tuor and Idril, who begat Ëarendil. Ëarendil and Elwing are thus both Half-Elves. Their sons are Elrond and Elros. Elrond, as you can see, chose ro be counted among the Elves, but Elros chose to be human. From the line of Elros are descendent all the kings of Númenor and later Gondor and Arnor. Aragorn is thus very very distantly related to Arwen.
@stephenseay38784 ай бұрын
@@SnaxanReactions It isn't necessarily sad. Life exists beyond death for the mortal in Tolkien's world, just in a different way is all.
@LordEsel884 ай бұрын
@@stephenseay3878 But it means that after death, they go to separate places. By choosing to be counted as a human, Arwen will never see her Elf relatives again.
@windsaw1514 ай бұрын
About the invisibility thing: What the Ring does is pulling a person into the spirit realm. Certain people like Sauron himself and certain elves (like Glorfindel, who was just in the books and was replaced by Arwen in the movie) were both in the mortal and spirit realm. Others, like the Nazgul and whoever wore the Ring, existed only in the spirit realm and could not be seen in the physical world. That was Frodo's big mistake when he put on the Ring on Weathertop. The Nazgul could not see people from the physical world very well, relying mostly on hearning and scent. But when he put it on, he could see them and they could see him. So the Witch King could attack him directly.
@brandonkirk64984 ай бұрын
also The Nine can't see in the day and can barely see in the night
@KS-xk2soАй бұрын
All immortal races exist in both the spirit realm and the mortal realm in Middle Earth.
@dionysiacosmos4 ай бұрын
The Nazul are afraid of water because the demigod Ulmo, who sang water into existence, still dwells within it along with his servants, the Myar or lesser devine spirits. (. The Myar are something like angels.) In general they don't interfere in the affairs of Middle Earth, until they do. So if a powerful Elf Lord asks the water spirit who dwells in the river that borders his realm to set up a flood trap triggered by someone who knows what to say, the river spirit is likely to oblige him. And if a powerful wizard suggests that foaming white horses would look impressive, the spirit will also add them. The magic of Middle Earth is soft, meaning it works in harmoy with nature. Arwen, Sauman and Gandalf are not casting spells. They are calling on the spirits to help them. Arwen asks the river to flood. Saruman asks the mountain to to make a storm and dump the snow on the company.
@thenoremac26854 ай бұрын
It's also because right now it's just their cloaks that are giving them shape, and if they get submerged in water they'll lose their cloaks. Without them they're just formless spirits.
@dkosmari4 ай бұрын
Also, the Nazgul are riding regular horses. It's not easy to convince a horse to jump into a barge. Sauron controls the Nazgul, not the horses.
@Beshuu4 ай бұрын
Maiar*
@JarodMoonchild19754 ай бұрын
Pretty sure it's 'Maiar', but I could be wrong on that, as I've only read 'The Hobbit'. And also, it's *divine spirits...
@michaelccozens4 ай бұрын
There's a lot of folklore around the globe about water, especially deep (though not stagnant) or fast-moving water, and its ability to repel or injure evil. A lot of European vampire lore, for example, has them being unable to cross water without great difficulty and special methods. I think much of it can be traced to the importance to human communities of relatively-safe sources of fresh water, as water-borne diarrheal illnesses can quickly spread and wipe-out whole groups (germ-laden watery poop has a knack for finding its way into the drinking-water supply). It's arguable that our attraction to shiny things comes from the importance of being able to detect the dancing light on the surface of fast-flowing water, that being less likely to harbour pathogens.
@Se7nom4 ай бұрын
No, there's no "connection" between Sam and Frodo. This is what true friendship looks like. Shipping was never in Tolkien's mind. That is a "modern" angle because young people don't have friendships like this anymore, it's all online for the likes. So I understand why you would think that.
@goldenageofdinosaurs71924 ай бұрын
I was completely with you, till your snarky little last couple of sentences.
@crispy_3384 ай бұрын
People are so gooner brained that every male relationship has to be gay now
@NecroSeraphim4 ай бұрын
It's genuinely really sad that friendships between bros can't even really be portrayed as so anymore without a legion of habitually online shippers wanting to proclaim it as a gay romance thing. You see it all the time in real life too if there are women around and two dudes hug.
@benji2854 ай бұрын
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 Sadly, he's not wrong. Friendships aren't what they used to be... actually, human relationships in general aren't what they used to be.
@robertg4204 ай бұрын
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192why does reality trigger you
@robmartin5254 ай бұрын
Notice how Bilbo came up with his 'happily ever after' ending as soon as he left the ring!
@stvbrsn4 ай бұрын
…until the end of his days.
@WJS7742 ай бұрын
He didn't even realise it, but he had been so twisted by the Ring that he couldn't even see a happy ending for himself until he got rid of it.
@Yami-e1y24 күн бұрын
Afaik he said this line before giving up the ring in the books. I might be wrong cuz it's been a long time since I've read the books
@WJS77424 күн бұрын
@@Yami-e1y Yes, it's a film thing. In the book it comes before.
@johnkamadeva47474 ай бұрын
There is no “Gay” relationship in LOTR, only true loyalty and friendship for Tolkien, the author of this franchise is actually a man from a bygone Victorian Age and a devout catholic, hence it’s also why LOTR has some Christianity elements in it
@tjarkschweizer4 ай бұрын
No canon ones but obviously homosexuality exists in Middle Earth.
@johnkamadeva47474 ай бұрын
@@tjarkschweizer and how do you know that? Are you even the author? 😒 If you’re trying to be sarcastic or just being a chaotic troll like every other person on the Internet then you’ve got the person bud, I ain’t here to debate or anything so please kindly move on
@huntclanhunt96974 ай бұрын
@@tjarkschweizerMaybe. Maybe not.
@mistrants27454 ай бұрын
@@johnkamadeva4747 eh it makes sense to assume it exists. Assuming the humans are just baseline humans who functiont he same as real life humans. Or maybe it doesnt because Eru doesnt like homosexuality but thats imparting a rather big political statement on a topic where no such statement was made. Imagine there wasnt a single human shown with red hair. It would still be a normal assumption that humans with red hair existed.
@brilobox24 ай бұрын
@@johnkamadeva4747 writing a world where humans exist yet zero gay humans exist would be the definition of fantasy.
@FrenchieQc4 ай бұрын
Welcome to the best trilogy of the universe! Make sure you're watching the extended editions!
@AdrianHague4 ай бұрын
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@motodork4 ай бұрын
She didn’t.
@Fullmetalmikey.4 ай бұрын
Dude... Everyone says this, but tbh I think that for a first time watcher the theatrical versions are probably best, there's a lot of stuff that's cool to see/know in the extended versions if you're already a fan but otherwise probably negatively effects the pacing imo... Idk. No hate, just my opinion. Curious to know what others have to say about my take
@CIrAzYIX4 ай бұрын
@@Fullmetalmikey. for lord of the rings I agree, the extended scenes are cool but not mandatory. And it kind of gives the possibilty to watch the series a second time with the first time feeling a bit. For Hobbit although I would definitly watch extended, in the third movie they cut like 70% of the whole battle out.
@stephenstewart22804 ай бұрын
#TeamTheatricalCut
@timmymac274 ай бұрын
Every reactor gets the horses and water thing wrong. Here is my interpretation. At the ferry, the horse looked at that tiny raft and decided "No, I am not jumping on that tiny raft, topple it, and fall in deep water with a grown man in full plate armour on my back (heavy). When chasing Arwen, they stopped because the river marked the border of Rivendell, so they would be susceptible to Elrond and the elves' power if they crossed.
@goldenageofdinosaurs71924 ай бұрын
Thank you. I’m always surprised by how many people think a horse could just jump onto that little raft & not topple it over, or the horse would have to take a couple steps after it lands & goes right into the drink. Then, there’s the fact that horses are smart & won’t do silly shit just cause you think they should. A very high percentage of horses would balk if you asked them to make that leap, especially in the dark.
@taxicorky4 ай бұрын
Actually in the book the horses do fear water. When Arwen calls for them only the leader and 2 others follow the rest stays and it's only because of the will of the leader that he gets his horse and the other 2 to follow. It's just not explained that way in the movie
@andrewgero81744 ай бұрын
Actually the Nazgul do have an aversion to water, especially running water. Tolkien does state this in one of his other writings, but he never explains why they fear it. Never the less, with the lash of Sauron's will behind them, they are pushed through their fear in the pursuit of the Ring. Remember, if a Nazgul is about, so is Sauron. He controls them utterly. He doesn't see through their eyes, but his will constantly drives them. Hmmm....I wonder if he got the One Ring back, he then COULD see through their eyes. That was the whole point of the ring machinations of Sauron, to absolutely control the 19 wearers. Well, whether of not, at this point Tolkien makes it clear, Sauron cannot see through their eyes.
@skaraturbo4 ай бұрын
@@andrewgero8174 Actually if someone very strong willed like a Maia or Aragorn took the ring he could actually take comand of the Nazguls but he would turn evil and corrupted at the same time
@jdc79234 ай бұрын
The Nazgul are limited by their horses. If a Nazgul loses his horse, he's on foot until he acquires another mount. The black horses are originally stolen from Rohan (mentioned in the books).
@martijnvanvelsen63134 ай бұрын
Fun fact: Actor Sean Bean has a severe fear of flying and that was quite a problem during the filming of Lord of the Rings. Scenes were regularly shot in isolated places. The actors and crew were brought by helicopter, but our Boromir was not seen. When the time came again, he would start a walking tour to the filming location hours in advance and already wearing his costume.
@SnaxanReactions4 ай бұрын
I have learned more from the comments section today than I did watching or reading various LOTR media all year 😂
@Demane694 ай бұрын
I'm baffled why everyone needs to "ship" every friendship. Boundaries of thought and action have vanished. Not a good sign in a society, yet unnoticed by those devoid of history. Younger generations appear to value nothing other than selfish interest. Egoism is the death of civilizations, and the values of this story go unnoticed.
@crazyray224 ай бұрын
The "Nice" when the balrog fell was perfect! with you not knowing of Gandalf fate was just chef's 😘
@goyasolidar4 ай бұрын
The ring slipping over Frodo's finger at the inn isn't silly at all. The One Ring is malicious and constantly trying to make its way back to Sauron.
@scottdean21994 ай бұрын
I understand a lot of the changes that Peter Jackson made from the book, but there are a few that still make me cringe. The battle with Sauron in the beginning and the way they treated Isildur so dirty is one of those. In the books, Sauron's body was killed by teamwork between Gil-Galad (Elron'd's boss) and Elendil (Isildur's father) - both of whom were killed in the process. Isildur cut the Ring off the dead body of Sauron and took it to be an heirloom in compensation for the loss of his father AND brother. Elrond told him not to take it, but they were never in Mt Doom. Over the next couple of years Isildur realized he was wrong and was on his way to Rivendell when he was killed. His intention was to give the Ring to Elrond. Isildur, in the books, was one of the purest and most noble men to ever live. For the movie, he became a scapegoat to help quickly establish the corruptive nature of the Ring.
@rmstorm4 ай бұрын
they actually filmed it as written. it turned out to be really gruesome apparently. maybe we'll see it someday. i felt similarly, w the luck shot on the ring hand etc, and particularly if you absorb "the disaster of the gladden fields", but i can sorta forgive them for restructuring it for theaters. its gotta be really brutal. you HAVE to show it if youre gonna show it, and its gonna be like a 2on1 choke-burning, sword death-strike, backhand kill, "everyone dies" moment. at a minimum it likely wouldve earned an R rating right off the bat. i do wanna see it done properly though
@seanmcmurphy47444 ай бұрын
Fun fact: The filthy belching villager they passed in Bree 21:14 was the movie's director, Peter Jackson. He gave himself a cameo in each film. And the children at the party 7:02 were some of his
@SixFour03914 ай бұрын
Would strongly suggest that you continue with the EXTENDED EDITIONS. They give the FULL story with more context and character development. Welcome to Middle Earth! Greatest Trilogy ever made!
@jrmz19844 ай бұрын
When I first saw that you were reacting to the LOTR I thought is she really posting it today for the Tolkien fans. Then after watching the intro to the video I came to think that the video only happened to be posted today because the editing had finally been completed. But now seeing your reaction during the video I think you may have become a fan and found out some fun facts and purposely posted it on September 22nd. So for those who don’t know today begins Tolkien week and specifically today September 22nd is Hobbit Day. Hobbit day is the day of celebration for Bilbo and Frodo Baggins’ birthdays. Happy celebrating everyone!
@terrylandess60724 ай бұрын
Yes, we get a Bagginses birthday quest every year in Lord of the Rings Online at this time :P
@SnaxanReactions4 ай бұрын
Hihihihih ☺
@thomasherlihy-xm4vt4 ай бұрын
Sorry another explanation Frodo and Sam It’s not sexual It’s the love of friends Tolkien was an officer in the English army during WW1 Not now but for centuries officers were expected to carry themselves on a certain way Work uniforms Fancy dress uniforms Due to the nature of the war, their responsibility’s as well as bringing the bling Officers often had an enlisted man as a personal aide to handle his stuff, follow him on the battlefield Europe really has class differences . In WW1 the aides were called a Batman. Due to the length of the war, the horrors they endured together bonds of the most deepest friendship were forged That lasted well after the war to the absolute confusion of upper class families You see two of different classes both the closest of friends It’s sad young people automatically see it as sex
@andrew3484 ай бұрын
No officer and servant look into each other's eyes like that
@blanketstarry77254 ай бұрын
@@andrew348 I don't know about officers and servants, but male/male friendships at that time were absolutely like Frodo and Sam. If you read correspondence between male friends from the 19th century and into the 20th, one may think the letters were between husbands and wives. If you look at photos from the turn of the last century (take early football team photos, as an example) it's normal from some of the players to be practically laying on others, sometimes leaning their back on anothers chest, between their legs. That's just how things were then.
@bobbombar67114 ай бұрын
@@andrew348are you sure,. That look in addition to being g interested as sexual . Could be are you ready for this ? Let's get this over with. What have wre gotten ourselves Into. Ready? Let's get going.
@taylemgames26524 ай бұрын
@@andrew348 Save the fan fiction for Tumblr. :)
@stephenseay38784 ай бұрын
@@taylemgames2652 You cannot expect much from simple minded people. They are base and react barely more than animals.
@ThatSamoanGuy4 ай бұрын
Heaven forbid that two guys are best friends.
@lokimiguel24523 ай бұрын
Shut the hell up you clowns rats
@ShoshanaDiMichaela2 ай бұрын
I know because men never have male best friends. They're always turning to women or gays for company! Men are so blessed!
@Tom-re6zo4 ай бұрын
The Ring is in fact sentient. Or at the very least it possesses quasi-sentience. It's a subtle detail that a lot of first timers don't notice, when Bilbo let go of the ring it was sticking to his hand somewhat as if it didn't want to be left in the Shire. It wanted to go out into the world where it could be found easier. Also it hit the ground like a sack of potatoes, it didn't even bounce like it weighs a ton and despite this it stuck to Bilbos palm as if he just had sweaty hands.
@donaldscholand46174 ай бұрын
Peter Jackson's crew created a ring with an iron core, then planted an electro-magnet under that floor-tile on the set of Bagend so that the ring would stick to it like glue. It was practical effects, not CGI. That rumbling thud sound effect, as if it weighed a ton, really helped sell that the ring was not just some magical trinket. I love that scene!
@johns79424 ай бұрын
When you first see Bilbo old in Rivendell, yes it’s because the ring prolonged his life, but he didn’t age overnight. In the book about 12 years pass between when Bilbo leaves and Frodo sets out from the Shire. Frodo is 50 at that time and bilbo is almost 130.
@theendistheend1234 ай бұрын
I love how reacters always say they would have fought Isildor. He's a KING! If Elron had killed Isildor, then Gondor would have gone to war....its like our president going to china or russia and killing their leader. It doesn't matter why, it would end bad.
@thomasharris49424 ай бұрын
FYI the biggest Tolkien nerd and also the biggest irl badass in the movie was the actor who played Saruman, Christopher Lee. He was the only person in the production to have actually met Tolkien, he reread the trilogy every year since the publication, and he used to ne a British WW2 spy--who was the person Ian Flemming based James Bond on!
@KS-xk2soАй бұрын
He can literally quote the "One Ring to Rule them All" poem in its entirety, in Mordor Black Speech, from memory lol. Tolkien nerd is right lol
@roguehart4 ай бұрын
you ask if the elves can chose a mortal life, the answer is no, but Arwen is a half elf just like her father Elrond and at some point they have to choose. Elrond's brother Elros made the choice to become mortal so Elrond has already felt the pain of his brother dying. Elros is also Aragorn's ancestor.
@bitterzombie4 ай бұрын
You're mostly correct, but there are a few other examples of elves (specifically elf women) having a mortal death. Luthien Teluviel famously forsoke an eternal afterlife in the undying lands for one mortal lifetime with her human husband, Beren. Her mother was even a maiar, making her arguably more "angellic" than your typical elf. Additionally, when Feanor is born in the Silmarillion, he is said to have a "spirit of fire" that took all of his mother's strength to bear. After he was born, she lost her will to continue living, & soon faded into death- this was a big deal to the elves, it had never happened before & things arent supposed to die in the "undying lands". But she did, & it was implied to be her own choice.
@roguehart4 ай бұрын
@@bitterzombie Technically Lúthien is also half elven but with a Maiar mother and and after she dies she makes the choice to be born again together with Beren, who is also dead at this time as a mortal. Míriel gets reborn later just like any elf can be by the will of the Valar, she did not choose mortality. Mortals pass on from the Halls of Mandos to some other afterlife. Elves are eternally bound to Arda, Arwen's choice is to become mortal, just like Elros and forsake her elven immortality.
@Makkaru1124 ай бұрын
@@bitterzombieLúthien Tinnúviel (Tinndómiel). Not Teluviel. 😅❤ you might be thinking of Telvido. 😂
@Makkaru1124 ай бұрын
@@roguehartnot chooses. She turned the heart of the Vala named Mandos to astounding levels of pity from her earthshatteringly sorrowful song and elves have the knowledge and ability to weaves songs of power too soo….
@Makkaru1124 ай бұрын
@@roguehartTuor became an elf due to his deeds alongside Idril who was a high elf princess. Arwen is related to her since Eärendil is Elrond’s father and Eärendil’s mother was Idril!
@entwood4 ай бұрын
This is great. I recommend the extended versions for the rest of the trilogy.
@terrylandess60724 ай бұрын
If you read Snaxan's pinned post you may realize something :P
@DestinyAwaits194 ай бұрын
The extended editions are not the official movies. They're not even better movies. They're poorly paced, have cringey humor and dialogue and just bloat the experience.
@entwood4 ай бұрын
@@terrylandess6072 I see. Well, unless she chose to watch the next two in extended versions way back when she made the reactions, it will be the theatrical. C'est la vie.
@maul424 ай бұрын
@@DestinyAwaits19 Return of the King Extended is, despite some cringe humor, absolutely the better movie. The theatrical cut was hacked to pieces to fit a theater-friendly runtime.
@DestinyAwaits194 ай бұрын
@@maul42 Nope. All 3 theatrical cuts are superior.
@johanneslink76804 ай бұрын
There is no connection, Frodo and Sam are simply the epitomy of how a friendship between men should be :)
@fostena2 ай бұрын
Even the contemporaries of Tolkien found the relationship between Frodo and Sam very queer. The line between friendship and romance changes over time. European culture evolved a lot between WW1 and WW2 and today. What was considered "strong friendship" in 1916 could very well be interpreted as romance 30 or 100 years later. Or maybe Tolkien intented their relationship to be queer. Contrary to C.S. Lewis, JRR Tolkien was never openly homophobic, despite being Catholic. We can never know for sure
@KS-xk2soАй бұрын
@@fostena Tolkien mentioned many times where he got the inspiration for their relationship, there is nothing queer about it. It was from WW1 officers and their personal servant/valets, called batmen at the time. He thought the batmen were the most noble and heroic soldiers he served with and chose to honour them in his stories accordingly. The idea of a gentleman noble and his loyal valet was MUCH more common in the Victorian era. It may seem queer to some now, and thats fine, but its not what was intended by the author.
@kobarsos824 ай бұрын
A timeless masterpiece and the best fantasy trilogy ever made. Its always wonderful to see each next younger generation truly experience and enjoy these films for the first time. And appreciate all the little bits, and what its all about. So many emotions. One can only imagine how bewildering and mindblowing it all was back in the early 00s to watch this in the theaters. If only we could forget this experience and erase it from our memories, in order to experience it for the first time once again. It's something I would do a thousand times over. Cheers and I'll just say this. "I will not say do not weep for not all tears are an evil."
@newrev9er7 күн бұрын
Your reaction is so beautiful and sincere. I'm so glad you decided to experience this story, and I'm so glad I discovered your channel.
@Spikeelsucko4 ай бұрын
The main reason Elrond didn't throw Isildur in or take the ring from him was because it would have started an apocalyptic war between elves and men if an elf assassinated the current King of Gondor no matter how justified. In Isildur's defense though no mortal being could possibly hope to overcome the will of the Ring while in the heart of Mt. Doom.
@dauritas14603 ай бұрын
"Isn't that the Game of Thrones guy?" xD I've never thought I'm gonna say it, but I'm so delighted someone finally did not recognize Sean Bean. Many people got spoilers from the very start, given the usual fate of the characters he played. 😂
@christophersmith83164 ай бұрын
Elrond and Elros were twins born from a pairing of an Elf and a Man. They were given the right to choose which fate to have, as was their descendants. Elond's brother chose Men and Aragorn is a distant descendant
@rezage34764 ай бұрын
You should definitely consider watching the extended ones. You’ll love them
@Makkaru1124 ай бұрын
Peter Jackson wanted people to see the extended (uncut) versions in theatres, but Harvey Weinstein stopped him. In fact, Harvey wanted just ONE movie in the threatres, not a trilogy. 5 years of court proceedings - and the 'harvey weinstein orc" in return of the king (made at Jackson's specific direction) was the result. Too many people don’t realize they are arguing in favour of a version of this movies that was only shown in theatres because of legal reasons - not for artistic reasons. - Peter Jackson’s passion project team was forced to not show their full content as it would cut into what the cinema CEOs literally called the theatrical edition to get more screen time in and more mulla for themselves. It’s a such a nasty business. 80 percent true that money be the root of all evil. It’s the reason the real pumped out the EE as fast as possible in DVD format before the second and third film hit theatres to get back at Harvey Weinstein, again, they wanted people to see the whole movie which invites feelings of completion in one’s heart. But he just announced that’s he found 1300 hours worth of footage from a warehouse he finally got access to so we will see more specially made super extended edition cinema extravaganzas that no cinema would pass on the opportunity to ride on his coattails again. The EE wasn’t just for fans. He literally was adapting the books to film as honestly as possible. the DVD documentaries showed that they didn’t want to cut anything. And weaselled around things to create the EE. (EE is extended edition by the way! ❤️). Without the extended for the next two films I always say “Good luck missing the Boromir backstory. Good luck explaining why the cloak turns into a rock. Good luck explaining the elves that had explained their current situation since the first film. It all ties together good luck skipping the gift scene with Galadriel and Celeborn and the extra scenes between Aragorn and Celeborn & Galadriel to Aragorn!” It’s seriously needed for the film worldbuilding and heightening the stakes. Also, I’d rather have faith people have the emotional and intellectual IQ high enoug to understand it or shall we have changed the title to something else same as how JK was forced to change the title in America to sorcerers stone instead of PHILOSPHER as Americans don’t even know what a Philospher is anymore these days which is sad (done on purpose to dumb down a population). Relating to that: Tolkien was very sad about people losing connection to their past and heritage etc!
@TheJoeyKnoxville4 ай бұрын
The Ring has a will of its own. It WANTS to be found by Sauron. It abandoned Gollum because Gollum never went out of his cave under the mountain. Also, Bilbo was the first EVER to give up the ring on his own (with a little help from Gandalf of cause). Gandalf is actually something calld a Maia which is basically an angel. A Balrog is a Maia as well, so they're equal in power.
@Makkaru1124 ай бұрын
Extended scenes at risk of being missed: 1• Frodo/Sam's first meeting with the elves, providing context for Valinor and the elves journey there, as referenced throughout the films and seen at the end of the Return of the King(connects to the passing of the elves in the beginning of their leaving the shire when Frodo and Sam are near the Old Forest by the Shire which leads them to eventually bumping into Merry And Pippin! (An epic scene with Gandalf in Rivendell was also removed as well.) 2. Aragorn singing the Lay of Luthien, providing a parallel between the events of the Beren and Luthien and Aragorn's relationship with Arwen of which every reactor channel I’ve seen makes the connection and it pulls them into a deeper understanding of their relationship every single time. 3. Aragorn kneeling at his mother's grave, giving him some additional backstory for the viewer. 4. Gandalf explaining to Frodo about the corruptive power of the Ring, and how it will strain the Fellowship from the inside, foreshadowing Boromir's downfall. 5. Sam singing a lament for Gandalf, providing more emotional weight to Gandalf's death, referencing the start of the movie and strengthening the connection between him and the Hobbits ( also highlights Tolkien's love of song and poetry in the books). 6. Galadriel giving the gifts to the Fellowship, providing context for their appearance in later films, as well as drawing a parallel between Gimli's gift and the events of the Silmarillion (Fëanor & Galadriel). That’s just the beginning. Including several removed scenes between Aragorn & Galadriel and Aragorn with her husband Celeborn! 7• also the opening explaining Hobbits & their culture to the viewers, so they have a better understanding of these peoples we will be following which also was the direct full chapter called Concerning Hobbits.
@ercsey-ravaszferenc67474 ай бұрын
To answer some of your questions: 1. Normally elves cannot choose to be mortal. Moreover, even those of mixed race can only be mortal, a single drop of mortal blood will make them mortal.There was one exception though. A very long time ago, Elrond's father did something (it's a complicated and long story, I won't go into it) which resulted in a dilemma regarding what should happen to him. So he was given the unique choice to be immortal if he wants to. And he did choose immortality. And all of his heirs are gifted that same choice. For example Elrond chose to be an elf and an immortal, while his brother, Elros chose to be a mortal man. 2. The enmity between elves and dwarves goes back a long time. Please know that Tolkien's universe is VAST, the history of these races goes back for thousands upon thousands of years with all the details, wars, alliances, conflicts, tragedies, love stories, all of them worked out in minute details, mostly in his other books but also in the appendix of the LOTR. 3. Hobbits are always barefoot. Their feet are covered in thick, hairy callouses so they don't need shoes. 4. Galadriel is extremely powerful. She is one of the oldest elves you'll meet in this story, she was literally alive before the sun and the moon existed and saw the two trees which used to give light to the world in those times. it is said that her hair seems to have the same kind of light. 5. Tolkien did really entertain the idea that orcs were once elves, but then he discarded it in the final versions of his books. Instead the canon story is that orcs were created in mockery of the elves by the chief antagonist of the first age, to whom Sauron was merely a servant at that time. 6. When Aragorn parried that dagger with his sword that was for real. the actor who played the big orc misjudged the direction and he threw a very real dagger at Viggo Mortensen who parried it like a badass. The professional swordfighter who taught Viggo said that he was the best student he ever had. He kept that sword with him at all times even during breaks or when eating in restaurants. 7. Tolkien first created the languages. He was a linguist. Then he imagined the peoples, races, cultures that would speak those languages and finally he wrote the stories for them. That should tell you a lot about the immense complexity of the lore and the background behind these events.
@EquineDreams4 күн бұрын
Thankyou for the answer to number 5. I was always suspicious of the idea that orcs came directly from the elves (I just assumed it was a lie told to the orcs for some reason). After all torturing and mutilating an individual does not affect their genetics. However it could be theorized that captured elves and men were forcefully bred and Mutated ie genetically modified by force (being tortured and eventually murdered in the process) LEADING eventually TO the creation of the orcs by Morgoth. That's a theory I could MAYBE get my head around.
@ercsey-ravaszferenc67474 күн бұрын
@@EquineDreams You're welcome, any time :)) The thing is, that only Eru Iluvatar (God) can create real life, that is beings with a will of their own. He has the "flame imperishable" or "secret fire". That was the main cause of Morgoth's rebellion, he really wanted that but it was impossible for him to obtain it because it's part of Eru himself, not something separate from him. So when Morgoth created his things: orcs in mockery of elves, trolls in mockery of ents, dragons in mockery of the great eagles, he could only create thralls which are slaves to his will. The small semblance of free will that these beings seem to have (like being able to act on their own accord) is due to the fact that Morgoth poured a great part of his own being into them. One result of that is that he was weakened and became permanently incarnated. Tolkien in his later life struggled with the idea of an entire breed of beings that is inherently evil. He seemed to regret inventing them.
@Nerveroxis4 ай бұрын
Frodo: "I wish this had never happened." Gandalf: "So do all who live to see such times." This is so powerful from Tolkien who served during World War I and fought in the Battle of the Somme which is considered to be the 4th deadliest battle in history.
@mikefenn004 ай бұрын
What a wonderful treat on Sunday morning!
@CaptainDarkFighter3 ай бұрын
even today I still am not convinced this film was made in 2001
@rileytruax7664 ай бұрын
burial at sea is what people used to do for warriors who showed great courage on the battlefield so yes that was the best and easiest way as they dont have time to dig a grave. also sam literally expresses hes in love with rosie the barmaid in the shire so no hes not gay for frodo lol
@skaraturbo4 ай бұрын
He might be bisexual lol
@andrew3484 ай бұрын
That was a river not sea though
@rileytruax7664 ай бұрын
@@andrew348 its still a burial at sea lol its just what putting someone in a boat and pushing them out to float off is called typically when people did it IRL they would have the body on a boat with a prye though so archers could set it ablaze also that river goes to a sea so.
@NiktoPH3 ай бұрын
@@andrew348 that river is connected to the sea
@lessonsofadad3 ай бұрын
I remember when Gangnam Style came out, one of the funniest clips had the Moria door scene. "What's the Elvish word for friend?" "Gangnam" ** Moria door opens to the Gangnam Style elevator scene
@WhatHaveIMade4 ай бұрын
Poor Gandalf the Grey really is dead.
@NevermadeMovies4 ай бұрын
One of the themes you'll see throughout the movies (without giving spoilers) is that the power of hope and fellowship is the true strength of a person. Both Sam and Aragorn are the very definition of positive masculinity, using their ''strength'' to uplift, support and defend (for example, it's why as you see here, Aragorn can allow Frodo to leave with the Ring because he doesn't seek the power to dominate or rule others.) You'll see scenes later where it is hope that gives strength, something Sam has an abundance of (again, as illustrated by his last line there.) You really are in for an absolute treat with these movies. As much as I love them and have such wonderful memories of seeing them in the cinema and then, doing as we always do in our household, watching them on every holiday, I'd also love to be able to experience them again with fresh eyes.
@01Firewolf4 ай бұрын
Love your reaction to one one of the greatest trilogy ever made. Definitely watch the extended editions going forward.
@WJS7742 ай бұрын
Sauron wasn't invisible because he was the Ring's true master, and had full control of its powers. Mortals like Isildur and Bilbo are _not_ able to control the Ring, when they put it on it shifts them into the shadow world, they can't control this or use the Ring's other powers.
@abstractnonsense32534 ай бұрын
There's nothing between Frodo and Sam. The hobbits are more simple and child like. Their friendship doesn't have the typical distance that grown men friendships have because hobbits are different.
@Rezk1n4 ай бұрын
Galadriel gives Frodo the light of 'Earendil' (Half-Eleven / The Mariner) who was the father of both Elrond and Elros (Aragon's 50x great grandfather) and was such a great hero that the Valar (gods/angels) raised him up to pull a star across the sky forever. That is also why Elrond and his family can choose to become mortal (also means that Arwen and Aragon are technically related).
@Makkaru1123 ай бұрын
@@Rezk1n he’s the reason the Valar and Valier along with the other Maiar spirits and eldar of Valinor to Assail middle earth to wage the War Of Wrath against Morgoth the Fallen Vala! The gift was actually to the men of all tribes of the Edain who took part in the 80 year long war. There were many that refused but kept the same noble spirit of the Númenoreans. The Èorlingas which became the folk of Rohan. The Èothèod.
@goldenageofdinosaurs71924 ай бұрын
No, Frodo wasn’t trying to tempt Boromir, he was just gathering firewood for the camp & trying to get a few minutes alone.
@zedwpd4 ай бұрын
The Hobbits can endure the cold mountain pass barefoot, because they have never worn shoes ever so their feet are quite resilient.
@jefflarkin96194 ай бұрын
Pretty good reaction! You MUST watch the extended cut of Two Towers just for more of Boromir’s back story. And yes, Frodo and Sam’s friendship has an intensity Americans (especially) find unfamiliar and uncomfortable. Loyalty and hope are the main themes. Enjoy!
@nicklarricks4 ай бұрын
She already reacted to the other 2 films & posted them on Patreon. I don’t think they are the extended versions though.
@NicholasHalls-q6e15 күн бұрын
I (Australian) was on exchange in Germany when this came out and saw it twice in a language I was only barely grasping before I ever saw it in English. And I loved it even without the language or subtitles. It's a movie that works regardless of whether you understand the words, although what an incredible script and beautiful new detail for me to receive on my third viewing. This is my favourite of the trilogy, though I think they're all incredible. To me, this goes down as maybe THE best fantasy film of all time?
@oslafoirausuebutuoy54574 ай бұрын
14:11 It is something that happened in the previous book. Bilbo found the ring in Gollum's cave. Gollum was looking for his lost ring, and they met. Bilbo managed to escape the cave with the ring, but Gollum knew Bilbo had it. That is why Gollum left his cave in the first place, he went out looking for Bilbo so he could get the ring back from him. But Sauron found Gollum before he was able to find Bilbo.
@chudez4 ай бұрын
Small correction, at the time they meet, Gollum wasn't even aware that he had lost his ring and Bilbo didn't know it was a ring that he accidentally found. But when Gollum lost the riddle game with what is arguably an unfair question ("What do I have in my pocket?"), Gollum sought his ring from it's hiding spot only to find it gone. His suspicious mind immediately went to Bilbo, with the question of what was in his pocket fresh in his mind.
@michaelccozens4 ай бұрын
@@chudez Yeah, IIRC, Gollum specifically went to fetch the Ring from its hiding place after losing the riddle game to Bilbo (Gollum's choice of game, so that choice, and his neglecting to establish ground-rules for it, is kinda on him, which serves him right. He was apparently going to kill and eat Bilbo in any case, and was essentially just cruelly playing with his food out of malice and boredom) because, instead of leading Bilbo out of the maze of caves as he promised, Gollum was going to turn invisible and throttle his guest, as he'd done many times before. Once Gollum realized the Ring was gone, Bilbo fled in terror at his obvious anger and murderous intent, and just happened to stumble upon a way out. Unseen forces and all that. Also, Gollum knew Bilbo's name and hometown because Bilbo, attempting to be courteous, told him both during their introductions. Kinda naive of Bilbo, but he also knew he was not in much of a position to bargain with Gollum in the dark caves, caves Gollum both knew and in which he could see, where Bilbo had neither advantage. Bilbo had Sting, but that wasn't much, especially as he had essentially zero combat experience at that point and was only a few days out from a life spent doing little other than farming, eating, and reading, as was the case for all Hobbits.
@candicelitrenta88903 ай бұрын
In the book The Hobbit, it describes Hobbit's feet as very furry and hard bottom like its own sort of shoe, so they never needed to have them. It's not even a question in the film
@puarterquonder4 ай бұрын
It's filmed before game of thrones, because Ned Stark still had his head.
@obenohnebohne4 ай бұрын
Watching this in a movie theatre was the best experience of my life. My 12 year old self was mind-blown and to this day, this remains one of the best adaptations of all time.
@raimat664 ай бұрын
Arwen comes from a rather complicated bloodline. She can choose life. It's funny that you don't really know where you've seen Boromir's cast ... Think again, if you haven't figured it out. One more thing. I suggest you watch movies two and three in the extended version. It makes alot more sense to you, and is more fun for us.
@wademedlin38224 ай бұрын
Watching her reactions brings back memories. I was first introduced to LOTR many years ago while serving in the Amy. Happened to find a copy of the Hobbit and could not put it down until I had completely finished reading it. I then quickly got copies of the Trilogy and was completely hooked as a fan rereading them many times. When The Fellowship Of The Ring movie was released I was excited and my girlfriend's daughter 13 at the time wanted to see it as much as I and went with me. Her reactions where similar to these, but having read the book I was able to help her understand what was happening. But then when the story focused on the Wraiths, and Orcs she became completely terrified, so much that she suffered nightmares for weeks after. It took a while before she accepted they were not real and it was all imaginary. But to fully appreciate the story I recommend reading the books, the movies leave out alot and changes some things. Also recommend exploring the many KZbin channels dedicated to the works, Jess of the Shire, The Broken Sword, and Lord of the Nerds are some excellent places to check out to learn more.
@michaelccozens4 ай бұрын
An aside, but I was very amused to learn that Tolkien originally wanted to publish the entire Trilogy as a single volume, which would have broken the spines of both books and people. He was thankfully talked-out of it, but can you imagine if he hadn't? Pretty sure LOTR would be a lot less well-known today, as nobody's gonna buy 1 000+ pages of some author of whom they've never heard.
@mattfraser10964 ай бұрын
You get more Boromir in the extended versions of the next two movies! Boromir was a great man!
@Makkaru1124 ай бұрын
Bilbo Walking Song: “Roads go ever ever on, Over rock and under tree, By caves where never sun has shone, By streams that never find the sea; Over snow by winter sown, And through the merry flowers of June,Over grass and over stone, And under mountains in the moon. Roads go ever ever on Under cloud and under star, Yet feet that wandering have gone Turn at last to home afar. Eyes that fire and sword have seen And horror in the halls of stone Look at last on meadows green And trees and hills they long have known” The original version of the song is recited by Bilbo in the last chapter of The Hobbit, at the end of his journey back to the Shire. Coming to the top of a rise he sees his home in the distance, and stops and essentially sings what I shared above! There are three versions of this walking song in The Lord of the Rings. The first is sung by Bilbo when he leaves the Shire and is setting off to visit Rivendell: “The Road goes ever on and on, Down from the door where it began. Now far ahead the Road has gone, And I must follow, if I can, Pursuing it with eager feet, Until it joins some larger way Where many paths and errands meet. And whither then? I cannot say.” The second version is identical except for changing the word "eager" to "weary" in the fifth line. It is spoken aloud, slowly, by Frodo, as he and his companions pause on their way to Crickhollow, looking beyond to lands that some of them have never seen before. The third version is spoken by Bilbo in Rivendell after the hobbits have returned from their journey. Bilbo is now an old, sleepy hobbit, who murmurs the verse and then falls asleep. “The Road goes ever on and on Out from the door where it began. Now far ahead the Road has gone, Let others follow it who can! Let them a journey new begin, But I at last with weary feet Will turn towards the lighted inn, My evening-rest and sleep to meet.” 1977: The Hobbit (1977 film): Sections of the poem are sung during the trip through Mirkwood. It appears on the soundtrack titled "Roads". 1980: The Return of the King (1980 film): A song inspired by the poem is sung at the end of the film called "Roads Go Ever, Ever On". 1981: The Lord of the Rings (1981 radio series): Bilbo sings the song as he leaves Bag End. It is sung by John Le Mesurier to a tune by Stephen Oliver. 1997: An Evening in Rivendell: The Tolkien Ensemble adapted an original melody to the song, composed by Caspar Reiff. 2001: The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring: Parts of the song are sung by Gandalf in his first appearance, and also by Bilbo as he leaves Bag End. 2006: The Lord of the Rings Musical: The poem is the basis of the song "The Road Goes On" sung by Sam, Frodo, Merry, and Pippin in the first act. 2014: The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies: Lines of the poem partially make up the lyrics of The Last Goodbye, performed by Billy Boyd(Pippin) for the credits of the film. This is just stuff to know when you see the next films. Maybe seeing this will spark something you read here or in other people’s comments via future reactions to the other 2 films as well as the 3 The Hobbit movies!
@Prodrummer16034 ай бұрын
Sam is a faithfull servant to Frodo. But not a slave since Sam has the freedom to choose what he wants to do. He is so selfless, never thinking about himself. And since Frodo is such an honorable "master", always appreciative of what Sam is doing for him, Sam never questions his Position, gladly giving up his life for Frodo if needed. These kind of people are pretty rare in todays society.
@DefenestrateYourself3 ай бұрын
Not sure if indentured servitude should exist in a moral society
@Prodrummer16033 ай бұрын
@@DefenestrateYourself There is no contract signed between Frodo and Sam so I don't think the term "indentured servitude" even applies here. Sam chooses to serve Frodo of his own free will. If I choose to help my friend without thinking about my own gains why should this be immoral ? Sorry but I don't get where the problem is.
@Makkaru1124 ай бұрын
The voice at the beginning is Galadriel - Older than the sun & moon, learned all from ALL the Valar (beyond angels), that was possible to be taught from them. she always knew there was more to know, to learn and more to create and had a drive to visit the homeland of her forefathers. To the hitherlands. Middle Earth. Where the elves truly were meant to live and mentor mankind for thousands of years so men could be fully ready to take the reigns in being the stewards of the world.
@ronhebercedillo93254 ай бұрын
Watch the two towers and the return of the king next! Preferably, the extended version ❤️ I love LOTR, I grew up watching it
@adamgaucher76593 ай бұрын
This is evidence to why I love reaction videos it's like trying to show your friend a movie you love and try to pick up on the comprehensive part, which is a huge
@raquelhoffmann44 ай бұрын
YAY WELCOME TO THE FANDOM! (people do use the One Ring as a wedding ring and it never fails to irc me: it's a haunted object, the phrase is damned, it is a curse!)
@-Devy-3 ай бұрын
The word is "irk".
@raquelhoffmann43 ай бұрын
@@-Devy- I couldn't care less.
@FXGreggan.4 ай бұрын
Haha I like how you went 'Eew' when Peter Jackson himself (the carrot eater) got on screen :)
@The_winds_of_change4 ай бұрын
The books were written in 1937. I can assure you, there are no gay characters. Promise.
@karasuma_seiichiro3 ай бұрын
Sam is the true hero of this trilogy
@SnaxanReactions3 ай бұрын
An amazing character! 🥹🩵
@ecthelion17354 ай бұрын
Wish you'd watched the extended edition. It adds a lot of important context. The Two Towers Extended is a MUST, though. It adds about 30 minutes, most of which are important character building scenes.
@crowverra53433 ай бұрын
The actor who played Gandalf based his portrail of the character on old recordings and interviews of and with J.R.R. Tolkien himself, the actor who played Saruman met Tolkien Personally. The Rings of Power Enhance what is already within, especially the one ring, Hobbits are naturally stealthy and "can go unseen by most if they choose", the ring makes hobbits invisible in the seen world all together, the one ring is imbued with a large part of Saurons Faea or Spirit hence it has a will of its own and can act subtly.
@juliusrobertson74484 ай бұрын
Mae govannen, great reaction -This series is so beloved and cherished. There’s a huge community who even watch reactions and are supportive of newcomers! You only watch these films for the first time once. So enjoy, keep asking questions, we love to see others enjoy these films! 🙌
@JLOFlix4 ай бұрын
Never confuse brotherly love with homosexual! The love of men who have fought side by side in battle with loyalty and care, is NOT to be mistaken for homosexual love, especially in these stories!!
@DefenestrateYourself3 ай бұрын
Eh, it’s a master subordinate relationship (at least at the start)
@ShoshanaDiMichaela2 ай бұрын
Go stare longingly into your friends eyes the way Sam does Frodo, and tell me there would be no confusion. 😂
@zairkadian15 күн бұрын
@@ShoshanaDiMichaela Those moments were drawn out for dramatic effect.
@ShoshanaDiMichaela15 күн бұрын
@@zairkadian Mmmmhmmmmmmm
@Makkaru1124 ай бұрын
The elvish songs of lamentation were for Gandalf when they arrived in Lothlórien. So the song you hear is literally for him whilst being a theme for the movie itself. This was expanded & set to music by Philippa Boyens & Howard Shore, respectively, for The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring. It was sung in the said film by Elizabeth Fraser in the track Lothlórien. Notable about this song is that it assumes that the elves of Lothlórien were aware that Gandalf was an incarnate Maia. This is debatable. As well, the lyrics ask "What drove you to leave/That which you loved?". This suggests that Gandalf was well aware that he would fall in Moria. Other verses include Gandalf (Olórin is his true name as abeing the wisest of the primordial ageless Maiar spirits), and that with him the Flame of Anor would leave the world (assuming that it and he were one, or he was the only wielder of the Flame). (English comes after the Quenya) * The first part is in Quenya: A Olórin i yáresse Mentaner i Númenherui Tírien i Rómenóri Maiaron i Oiosaila Manan elye etevanne Nórie i melanelye? - The Second part is in Sindarin: Mithrandir, Mithrandir, A Randir Vithren ú-reniathach i amar galen I reniad lín ne mór, nuithannen In gwidh ristennin, i fae narchannen I lach Anor ed ardhon gwannen Caled veleg, ethuiannen. **”Olórin, who once was... Sent by the Lords of the West To guard the lands of the East Wisest of all Maiar What drove you to leave That which you loved? Mithrandir, Mithrandir O Pilgrim Grey No more will you wander the green fields of this earth Your journey has ended in darkness. The bonds cut, the spirit broken The Flame of Anor has left this World A great light, extinguished.” ** And Since Gandalf is tied to the story and fate of the elves as he is one of the Maiar spirits is that when one perishes it tends to be a big deal when something like one “dies” if you will. Spending thousands of years together even in his current embodiment is still greatly impactful upon his death.
@ImagineMySurprise5104 ай бұрын
No. As much as some people want to imagine a homosexual relationship between Frodo and Sam, such an idea was anathema to Tolkien. The relationship of Sam was a devoted and loyal servant to Frodo, and Frodo valued Sam for his loyalty and trusted him implicitly.
@jannawalany59424 ай бұрын
31:12 I had this view from my window for almost a decade. Tolkien was here in 1911 and everything he described in his books about Rivendell comes from here. This is the village of Lauterbrunnen in Switzerland. Translated into English: Deep Cut Valley.
@Zaphods-Third-Arm4 ай бұрын
The ring didn't make Bilbo younger, but all the rings of power (including the invisible ones worn by wizards) basically extend the life of those who carry them by making them age very slowly. Once Bilbo relinquished the ring, well...Boromir's death is the saddest, heart wrenching one I've ever seen in a film....gets me every time I watch these films, and I've watched them a lot.
@gianttoadstool4 ай бұрын
Agreed about Boromir - he is my favorite character.
@UnethicalLogic4 ай бұрын
Boromir is said to be far better combat warrior than Aragon. His slaughter of Uruks in the book was awesome.
@Andrew042914 ай бұрын
The music that plays when Gandalf falls is the sound of a heart when it’s breaking.
@snorkman24 ай бұрын
Ok, Tin man.
@DefenestrateYourself3 ай бұрын
@@snorkman2ok snorkman
@nickmanzo84594 ай бұрын
Sam and Frodo aren’t gay, they’re good friends, and Tolkien saw how close male friendships could be when he served in the trenches in WWI. To quote his good friend C.S. Lewis: “Those who cannot conceive of friendship as a substantive love, but only as a disguise or elaboration of Eros, betray that they have never had a friend.”
@SnaxanReactions4 ай бұрын
That sounds beautiful. :)
@Makkaru1124 ай бұрын
All 17 rings were meant to go to elves (300-500years of infiltration & deception down the drain.) but Mairon of the Maiar(primordial angelic beings in simple terms as they are beyond angels) disguised as a high elf named Annatar when he came to the elves pretending to be an emissary from Valinor on behalf of the Valar so it makes sense how alluring the ring is and how strong it’s pull on people is. (A bit too instant in the movies though) - Galadriel soon saw right through him and especially when after speaking with him regarding not remembering him when in Valinor long ago where she learned from all the Valar thanks to being dominantly Vanyar/Teleri side over her Noldorin side where she gleaned from that encounter that she did not study under Aulë the Vala with any elf named Annatar ! But later named Sauron by the elves as a cursed name meaning “the abhorred” and deceiver! Similar to his former name as Gorthaur. (Correction - The Sindar Elves in Beleriand gave Mairon the name Gorthaur, meaning "dread abomination," while others called him Sauron, meaning "the abhorred" or "the abominable," a play on his original name. Gorthaur was when he ruled in the first age as lord of all werewolves in isle of werewolves called Taur Ín Gaurhoth) After all of this, The three elven rings were made in secret without Saurons touch upon them thanks to Celebrimbor! Remember Gandalf before he became Gandalf was the same species of entity Sauron used to be!! Wow hey? The Rings in this case, would have lost their powers eventually due to the lack of the One Ring and possibly because they were designed to defeat evil, & evil in the form of Sauron had been defeated twice already in the past. The Three Elven Rings served their purpose for a long time. Two out of three of them had several different bearers Unlike the other Rings, the main purpose of the Three is to "heal and preserve", as when Galadriel used Nenya to preserve her realm of Lothlórien over long periods. The Elves made the Three Rings to try to halt the passage of time, or as Tolkien had Elrond say, "to preserve all things unstained". There is problem here with the Rings, the Three were supposed to be never touched by Sauron and that's why they were not corrupting…Sauron had not taken part in their making which made the Three more 'pure' unsullied by his dark power, unlike the Nine and Seven Rings! But Sauron in the show touched the very material they were made of!!! So technically he could have tainted them and corrupted! Even appendices of Lot tell us the order of making the rings, so they didn't even need the righs to more detailed writings in UT or Silmarillion: 1200 Sauron endeavours to seduce the Eldar. Gil-galad refuses to treat with him; but the smiths of Eregion are won over. The Númenoreans begin to make permanent havens. c. 1500 The Elven-smiths instructed by Sauron reach the height of their skill. They begin the forging of the Rings of Power. c. 1590 The Three Rings are completed in Eregion. c. 1600 Sauron forges the One Ring in Orodruin. He completes the Barad-dûr. Celebrimbor perceives the designs of Sauron. 1693 War of the Elves & Sauron begins. The Three Rings are hidden." 'Did you not hear me, Gloin?' said Elrond. 'The Three were not made by Sauron, nor did he ever touch them. But of them it is not permitted to speak. So much only in this hour of doubt I may now say. They are not idle. But they were not made as weapons of war or conquest: that is not their power. Those who made them did not desire strength or domination or hoarded wealth, but understanding, making, and healing, to preserve all things unstained. These things the Elves of Middle-earth have in some measure gained, though with sorrow. But all that has been wrought by those who wield the Three will turn to their undoing, and their minds and hearts will become revealed to Sauron, if he regains the One." - The 3 Elven Rings are not susceptible to “The One Ring” in any direct way.. They’re only tied by fate to lose their power if Sauron is defeated completely & absolutely. As they were made by the elves and as always they make things for a purpose and pour their literal spirit into things they create. So if Sauron is defeated then the three rings power will fade and basically become almost useless or diminished versions of their original design since by this era magic has bled from the world by a huge degree thanks to Morgoth’s poisoning the world itself with his very essence that he poured into it. Called The Long Defeat By The Elves and The Men Of The West.
@questionablehumor28004 ай бұрын
38:19 the way that the ring presents the experience of addiction really wrecks me, every time. Bilbo's compulsions, though only a flash in the moment, present such a huge emotional scene of shame and regret. Ian Holm (RIP, 2020) knocked it out of the park with that one scene.
@scaryghost57214 ай бұрын
Girl, you better watch The Extended version for the next two movies. Not watching the extended version is a crime against humanity m
@GingerishEmma4 ай бұрын
Wow, such a great reaction! I loved how engaged you were right from the start, and so perceptive! Can't wait for the next one. 🎉
@johnmackendrick51733 ай бұрын
This is a month late, but I feel like I should defend Snaxan. Numerous people are condemning her for "shipping" Frodo and Sam. She only implied the possibility of such a relationship. She did not say they are lovers. She was much more effusive when talking about him being a "true bro." There is another reactor that saw this scene and was not touched at all during the scene where Frodo saved Sam. This other reactor snickered and made gay jokes. Snaxan made one comment that implied the possibility. People are being borderline hateful to her.
@Sough3 ай бұрын
Well said
@Makkaru1124 ай бұрын
Isildur In book he NEVER succumbs to the ring, he instead spends his time being a fair ruler who practically gave power away to the people INSTEAD of being power hungry. He comes to realize that he is not powerful enough to truly bend the ring to his will. That it will eventually overcome him. Isildur resolves to give the ring to Elrond but is killed on the way to Rivendel. It's a tragic story of a man that tries to right his wrong but ultimately fails. In the books isildur literally repented and was about to bring the ring to Rivendell and apologize as he recognized it was beyond him even for a great numenorean connected to the faithful line of the mighty Elendil I preface the prologue & war, other depictions I LOVE, captured the themes WELL, the vibe of the whole trilogy! The significance of the duel between Elendil & Sauron was Nerffed; (He wasn’t some random old bloke in armour getting smacked around) This man was MIGHTY and gleaming with power which you’ll find out in the great videos you’ll soon react to with joy! * He and Gil-Galad; last true Elven King battled Sauron and slayed Sauron’s physical body and both died in the process. GilGalad was held high by the face for all free peoples to see as he then incinerated his bodily form to a crisp of ash! Isildur was part of the fight too but not as prominently and he just comes up to the body to cut the ring finger off and…. So one example is how easily Sauron is killed in the intro. * • He's set up as this super powered badass, but all you have to do is cut off his finger? That's not how it went down in the book, where the greatest man-king and the greatest elven-king had to double-team Sauron to strike down his body, but were killed in the effort (Isildur then cuts the ring from the corpse). Especially for elves the title of king has many meanings & by the Third Age there isn’t a population large enough to even attempt to such a thing as creating a unified kingdom, which would put a target on their backs, let alone many of them are beyond all of that anyway as it’s seen as doing more harm than anything good. * They also seen what happened when the elves fell upon the swords of their own hubris and passion no matter if it was for the right reasons some of the time. That it always ended up in some sort of tragedy which sometimes even damaged the earth itself. They had long known about what’s called the Long Defeat as ever since Morgoth’s marring of the land itself; pouring his remnants into it that caused the “magic” to slowly drain away from the land itself, which is sad because for ages several clans of elves were born there. even the greatest ancestors were “born” in middle earth awakening to the stars ! Many of who are left have accepted the next phase of their life which is to become councillors, healers and loremasters to those with the heart to listen and the desire to learn. But above all the guardians and custodians of several things and the world itself for as long as they can remain!❤ The elves “exist” as long as the world does. And Tolkien made it obvious in many ways that it’s our world as he restored Anglo Saxon culture/Mythologies and folklore, and their languages too alongside Irish, Welsh and Finnish mythologies too. Especially Norwegian(of which I am) This is what Amazon (the show that shall not be named) didn’t deliver either [[AKA the actual story which inspired everything we love into existence with games and movies and books and so forth. Skyrim, elder scrolls, oblivion, Diablo, and world of Warcraft and D&D. And Game Of Thrones was hugely inspired by Tolkien… yet as the godfather of everything and the heart of what caused many peoples lives to be saved cannot get the justice it deserves for adaptations? People literally conquered cancer because of the books and the trilogy, the books were read to their children for years. All 25 of them. The man was a hugely respected scholar and professor in the world. Translated ancient artifacts and hieroglyphs and petroglyphs and so forth for the government etc. (JRR Tolkien even rejected being recruited into the CIA several times & he wrote everyone by letter and referenced the dudes who came to him as “little boys who knew not what they got themselves into” which showed his fearlessness.). The readers of the trilogy that came out are who he writes back to despite always replying to everyone back and forth. Many people have shared the stories regarding these conversations which were past down throughout the family lines of the people who had a personal relationship with Tolkien which was hundreds of people when he was alive. Thousands. (Some are in video format too or happened to be shared later on in the video or comes up during a video about him and his work. Especially nowadays when many of us came out of the woodwork to defend professor Tolkiens legacy from amazons money grubbing hands and so forth. Giving many channels a new lease on life where some make Tolkien related content now amongst other things they create content wise.
@Thelaretus4 ай бұрын
On the friendship between Frodo and Sam: before the modern gay movement, men were not afraid to show true brotherly love to one another. Tolkien was a war veteran and this idea of true brotherhood spoke deeply to him. Because homesexualism wasn't really a thing, men were not afraid to be perceived as 'soft'.
@nezudev4 ай бұрын
There are a lot of men that aren’t scared to show true brotherly love. If anything it’s more common now due to past generations seeing it as a weak thing.
@guidoferri86834 ай бұрын
Gays existed back then too, but they were incarcerated or given inhuman treatment.
@Johnspartan2964 ай бұрын
The only reason men are afraid of showing other men platonic love is is because men will make fun of them for being gay.
@sammygoodnight4 ай бұрын
This is what was so insidious about the movie Brokeback Mountain. It further eroded the possibility of male friendships by insinuating that they must be homosexual to n nature. It's not. Men can love and care for each other without engaging in antisocial and degenerate behaviour.
@darrrrrby4 ай бұрын
'homosexualism' most certainly was a thing haha, people were just unfortunately much less tolerant of it and therefore it was suppressed, you kind of have it backwards