The Lord of the Rings Trilogy: A Dying Legacy?

[@samuelstuart3856]

As someone who is only seventeen I love the lord of the rings and watch the movies at least twice a year, and I will never forget them. They are my perfect trilogy and their legacy will never be tarnished to me

[@HuemorDGAP]

You remind me of myself 45 years ago, only in my case, I re-read the books once a year, absolutley love them still to this day!!! And now, yes, we have the movies!!! Amazing!!! Give the books a read one day!!!! ❤

[@justthinkingoutloud2538]

21:50 Not sure how much you already know, but Gandalf and the other Istari (wizards) are Maiar. The divine beings of the world include the Valar (basically gods) and the Maiar (essentially angels). The five wizards were Maiar sent from Valinor, the realm of the gods, to Middle Earth after Sauron's defeat in the forms of unassuming old men to act as guides to the nations of men and keep an eye on Sauron's presence in the world. Gandalf's physical form was killed fighting the balrog and his soul returned to Valinor, where the Valar sent him back to Middle Earth with an upgrade and promotion to Saruman's former position as the head of the Istari. Hope that helps.

[@thethriftytypewriter]

Thank you! It does help!

[@mediadunce653]

Technically, a being called Eru (basically God) sent Gandalf back.

[@mathijnd]

Frodo isn’t meant to be a warrior and thats what makes his character so good. He’s so innocent and literally gets mind tortured by this powerful weapon. It shows how brave he is taking that ring all the way to mordor with 0 experience

[@tomlinson1710]

Exactly

[@IzunaSlap]

In a way, he's stronger than Boromir and Isildur. He's able to resist the ring for months, whereas Boromir tempted by the ring before the Fellowship is even formed, and Isildur succumbed to it almost as soon as he received it.

[@thehermitman822]

Yes. Frodo is the greatest because he is the least in size, strength, and status yet he is the one who CAN carry the world's burden with his resistance and persistence.

[@cjgeminitarot6836]

I always found Haldir’s death so heartbreaking and moving. It teaches us that, though “immortal,” Elves can still die and it shows that the battle against Sauron is worth a group of immortal beings risking their lives for. This is underscored in his final moment when he sees many of his dead brethren laying around him. I don’t think we are meant to connect with it as the death of a beloved character, it speaks to a larger dynamic and truth within the story.

[@thethriftytypewriter]

Never saw it like that but that’s a great point!

[@Lilcutiepie95]

That’s such a poignant scene.😢

[@yelsahblah3270]

That was exactly how I viewed it too. That the loss of his experiences and his life was such a cruel blow. A lifetime snuffed put in an instant.

[@tomlinson1710]

You’ll never see a trilogy as perfect as this

[@Oroborus]

fun fact, Vigor broke his toe when he kicked that helmet. did you know that? well you do now. this is the first time it has ever been mentioned, I swear.

[@davemccage7918]

I had no idea! What a crazy and obscure bit of trivia that is!

[@hharrybboy]

No way!!!!! 😮😮

[@Cazzettes]

Hell yeah, got one hour left of work. Perfect video to burn through it. Thanks 🙏🏽

[@newdadam]

Professional editor here: I’ve seen each of these movies 10+ times and they were one of main inspirations for picking up premiere for the first time

[@rickyrobby8133]

Frodo’s trial isn’t really meant to be physical, of course it is because he’s traveling the world but it’s a test of will more than anything. Hobbits are physically unassuming and even feeble but they for the most part are good natured and caring people who want to do good. Frodo’s journey is mental and emotional triumph, not about what physical feats he was able to overcome. The mental strain of bearing the ring is what makes him a great hero.

[@chris.shamblin]

They quite literally don’t make movies like this trilogy anymore. Also, props for not putting a thousand ads all throughout your video. You deserve credit for resisting the biggest temptation of all.

[@Noone-d6u]

I mean are there any books left to adapt into trilogies?

[@CardboardArm]

As an OG Tolkien fan it is very unsettling to see people judging new adaptions on how well they preserve the legacy of the Jackson movies instead of the original source material. I'm glad you end with 'nothing is going to tarnish the legacy of this trilogy', that is the best attitude tot take! But I do kind of get the defensiveness of some fans. That's what I feel when I see how much the movies have displaced the books as the Original in the fanbase, like this video. :)

[@Hero_Of_Old]

Very true

[@frog2652]

Your channel stumbled on my suggested page and man am I glad I watched. All your videos have been such a joy and watching this breakdown of my favorite movies of all time was so good! Props to you man!

[@friskow]

So glad Lord of the Rings Conquest art was put in here the game was so fun very great childhood memories

[@thethriftytypewriter]

Goated game

[@captainkajubell5302]

I can’t wait to finish this after I finish my English Essay.

[@annasullivan2564]

I remember being grumpy that Shelob was in the third movie rather than the second, and absolutely indignant that Tom wasnt in the first. I was in middle school and not very smart. I also barely read the books from what I remember, the movies were the only thing keeping me invested, so really I had no business complaining.

[@jonathandavis4819]

Great afternoon listen. Thanks for making your videos friendly for 'podcast' style consumption.

[@erich5867]

Been excited to hear your take on

[@Rat-czar]

The Lord of the Rings trilogy is truly lightning in a bottle. Sure, we've gotten fantastic adaptations before, for example, Jurassic Park-a fantastic book and movie. But we have never seen nor will we get another series like TLOR. And I think the most important detail in the entire making of the trilogy is pre-production. They knew exactly what they were making and how to do it long before filming began. And it was made out of love for the source material and not greed. Ultimately, having a concise and prepared production is what partially crushed the Hobbit movies. And I'd love to see your take on the trilogy. I love the hobbit movies, flaws and all and I'd love to see your opinion on them.

[@smae98]

best channel i’ve recently found in a while

[@Skidmark1026]

I'm a good old fashioned fence sitter. For the most part, fellowship extended is a big + for me. It adds to the lore with hobbits, it adds more depth to aragorn and boromir, can't live without that. Two tower's has more extended scenes i can do without, however the faramir and boromir scene is so fucking good. Return if the kind is the worst one, other than Saruman death scene is a MUST, but I can't recall caring much for other additions. In fact, I've seen arguments that the extended scenes showing Aragon and the gang calling the ghosts to the battle, kinda sorta undercuts the battle tension because we know there's a literal army lf the undead coming to save the day. I have to concede to that tbh. Regardless i watch extended every year or two. Bilbo's narration in the beginning is my sleepy time go to.

[@Skidmark1026]

Wanted to add i agree, Aragorn is the best. He is my go to example of good masculine.

[@lkorzechowski]

When you're trying to brave the mountain pass and suddenly you hear a loud MAYA HI MAYA HU coming from Isengard.

[@redgreen2453]

One thing about LotR is that as great as Peter Jackson’s films are there’s a lot he had to leave out due to the sheer length of the books, it’s a shame that they seem to feel like his adaptations are untouchable and they can only make prequels and spinoffs to it, when there’s so many interesting ideas to still be mined from the source material. Ironically, I feel like the weird miniseries/seasonal tv show hybrid that the streaming landscape has created would actually be a really conducive medium for adapting the original trilogy fresh. They could do a season per book and really have time to do justice to the things they had to skip over or rush past in the movies but they wouldn’t have to face the pressures of making it episodic that they would’ve adapting it to television even just a few decades ago.

[@stretchmonster]

I'd love to see a movie or miniseries about the Scouring of the Shire.

[@ChristopherGrisolia]

These movies are the definition of cinema

[@akshaytrayner1960]

Awesome vid

[@brandonk655]

I watched the extended edition and was confused why Gandalf came back so I googled it and (I've never read the books) what I saw was a forum answer saying something like the God of the Lord of the Rings universe was like, "yo, they need some major help so I'm going to upgrade your gear and stats so get ready for round 2" and that's how he was reborn. That's what I understood anyway.

[@thecrazyimp99]

absolutely love the movies. (havent seen the extended versions) but I have seen the triolgy and played the lego game. Both are peak and Sam is the best.

[@axelwoni.m.8940]

Nice video to come out on my birthday! The LOTR Trilogy Rules!!

[@GDEcM]

The Thrifty Typewriter dropping a 1hr long lotr video??? I Need my beer and snacks!!

[@stretchmonster]

The wonderful things is, no matter what happens, this brilliant trilogy will continue to exist, and will entertain and inspire people for generations to come.

[@kingmob1972]

Merry Xmas and Happy New years!! Thrifty Typewriter!!!

[@jacobkim4632]

Hey Thrifty, will you be doing an analysis for the Hobbit trilogy???

[@maul42]

King NEEDS the extended edition. Its such a jumbled mess without the connective tissues that was added back in. I mean, some of the extended material such as the skull trap in the halls of the dead can be cut, but Saruman's fate being cut is just criminal and the timeline during the Battle of Pelanor fields has a lot of weird gaps, night/day jumps, etc.

[@berengustav7714]

And without the Extended Edition,it felt like it was easy to walk through Mordor and not be in surrounded by orcs.

[@technounionrepresentative4274]

I'm terrified of them making a sequel series to lord of the rings, I don't even think peter jackson could pull off one, given his current track record

[@Hero_Of_Old]

Why would there be a sequel? The books are the canon, not the movies. Tolkien never wrote a sequel. (Well he abandoned it)

[@jamesbodnarchuk3322]

Sméagol forgot the taste of bread.

[@IzunaSlap]

I like how Gollum isn't really focused on until the second film, leaving the first film free to focus on Boromir. If the films tried to explore two conflicted characters at once, it could've been messy. Thankfully Gollum takes center stage right after Boromir exits.

[@bladeofnexus7359]

I promise you, the legeacy is not dying, most people haven't watched any of these shitty fanfics made by amazon, everyone will remember the original trilogy as Lord of the Rings and nothing else Don't worry, Tolkien will live on

[@BrokenFemurMtn]

"So first things first-" *cuts to Firehouse subs* FRENCHONION SUB, YOU CAN DIP IT!"

[@taravati181]

ive seen lots of reactors watching the lord of the rings trilogy. it still hits them the same way it did me 20 years earlier

[@gryphonvert]

Heck, I watch reaction videos, and I'm still there crying along with them at the end, no matter how many times I've seen the movies.

[@bladeofnexus7359]

Gandalf Resurrection Explanation: Gandalf is an angel, he had unfinished business so God (basically) sent him back

[@taravati181]

youre not being fair to frodo especially at the end. no one in the world couldve resisted the ring at that point in mount doom. its power was to great

[@Maximus0506]

Peter Jackson has said there are still hours and hours of unreleased footage from the original trilogy. All we need is a new extended-extended edition every decade or so.

[@Atlas_Tyr]

I will never stand for faramir criticism. He’s perfect. Nothing to change. He can do no wrong no matter how much it calls to him

[@gryphonvert]

I say this as someone who was fine with how they wrote Faramir in the movies: I get why some folks are annoyed by his being tempted by the Ring at all in the movie (or, really -- tempted to do something to gain his father's approval; it's pretty unclear whether he's actually tempted *by the Ring*). He's much more incorruptible in the books, and that's really important to a lot of people. (My personal feeling is that his portrayal in the books would not have worked that well on screen; and I understand the storytelling problem they were trying to solve. As I said, I feel like the movie suggests more that he was tempted to bring the Ring to his father to gain his father's approval -- and, like Boromir, thought it would help Gondor -- than that he, himself, was tempted by the Ring. So for me, he maintains his virtue, while going through an interesting arc that helps the on-screen story.)

[@PacificEgg]

Without even watching, the title is quite the Hot Take 😂

[@Legofps123]

The Ring is the villan. I guess that means Sauron still is the main villain, but through the ring.

[@thomasmarchese8843]

Let’s GOOOOOOOOO

[@hunterdockery9325]

I think my only real disagreement with you is your characterization of Frodo. I agree he is no great action hero in a traditional sense, notwithstanding a few explicit acts of heroism in the movies and few more depicted in the books. But the huge takeaway from his character is his ability to show restraint in the face of truly terrible power. The act of bearing the burden of carrying the ring alone would certainly corrupt the heart of any man or beast almost immediately. Think of Sméagol for instance. Frodo and Sméagol/gollum have intertwined fates for that very reason. They are two sides of the same coin. I would argue that Frodo is among the greatest of the heroes even if at times he can appear a bit meager and weak in the movies. Also a quick note to clarify. You had mentioned the ring accidentally ended up on Frodos finger during the prancing pony scene. I think it is rather suggested (granted a bit more explicitly in the book) that the ring has a mind of its own. Some mysterious power over its own fate. This is why he is so tempted to wear the ring when the Nazgûl are near. The ring wants to be found! Banger video though! Always love to hear a fresh perspective on the movies.

[@goblin3810]

It's amazing they keep convincing people Macao actors make the performance and not the actual artist.

[@gryphonvert]

I assume you mean "motion capture" here. And yeah, I agree. To be fair -- Andy Serkis gave an outstanding performance. He was physically there, flopping around in the streams and whatnot. He chose how to play Gollum and bring him alive vocally; and the CG character is based on Serkis's expressions and all. But. Even with *all of that*, this character could still have been a complete dud if the CG weren't up to the task of convincing you he was real; and he's so crucial to the story that him being a dud would have severely impacted the trilogy. I mean, we've all seen bad CG that takes us out of the story. Again, yes, the animators had Serkis's performance as a template, but that doesn't mean that them replicating that performance in a purely CG-animated character was "easy". It's an astonishing feat, and Gollum from 20+ years ago still holds up watching today. I know that people were saying that various award shows should have recognized Serkis for Gollum, but basically, what they really should have done was step outside the box, and give an award to Serkis PLUS all the animators, standing together. You can't separate one from the other. But Hollywood wasn't ready for that, at that time. I'm not sure they're ready for it even today.

[@gazbomber4700]

Lord of Tham Rangs! LFG!

[@KingPlebLord]

Only thing I noticed wrong was you mentioned Sheldon was a comic entity and that just not true. It’s the mother of Shelob, Ungoliant, that is the cosmic entity. No doubt Shelob is powerful because of her heritage, especially for a hobbit, but Shelob is mortal and of the world. Great video btw!

[@locrpg]

More LotR content plz!

[@Sinhesthysia]

54:30 yeah but the problem is that when they ran out of stuff to adapt, everything went to shit. Just because you are a fan of a property doesn't mean you can make a quality product. The writer of Andor has never been a mega fan of Star Wars, but he understands how to write great narratives, and that's what matters. And we even saw this with Peter Jackson; he made these movies, then also made the Hobbit trilogy which is not very good.

[@milanfejfar322]

ten pm where I live, just about to call it a day... But I was deceived.

[@actual_jedi1810]

Have you ever read the books and the other stories that support them? You don't say specifically in the video (at least that I caught). If you haven't it's entirely worth doing it at least once. Yes, it's just as much of a journey but it gives you the proper understanding of why most of the extended scenes are there and what true purpose they serve. Most of it is character arc resolution, but it will help with your "why is this even here?" questions. This was a great video Thrifty. I hope you take the chance to delve into the larger world of Middle Earth. It's so worth it!

[@rhyswallace3590]

Frodo is definitely Braver and a more proactive Protagonist in the book. He drives away the Cave Troll in Moria, Fights the Witch King on WeatherTop before he's stabbed...Defies all the black rider's while wounded on the way to Rivendell all alone. Saves the Hobbits from the Barrow Wights in the Barrow Downs in the Book. & Initially Scares the Giant Spider Shelob off. & Is over all portrayed with more wisdom, maturity and Authority in the books.

[@Lornext]

We have not had a good movie soundtrack in almost a decade by this point.

[@thethriftytypewriter]

The Dune soundtrack is phenomenal and I didn’t even really enjoy those movies

[@GDEcM]

TLDR Gandalf fights that sob for like 10 days, dies, his soul meets up with some god like folks, put his ass to work as a sprite for them, 20 years later in the afterlife which is a few months for middle earth i guess ( times irrelevant really with the magic, gods, and shiiii) so god folks send Gandalf back to middle earth to finish what he started as "Gandalf the White". something like that if i remember lol

[@Mulpje]

Does anyone know the name of the song that starts at 28:26?

[@Rough_Estimates]

Better than star wars

[@bradcarver8127]

Correct and it’s not even close

[@cggc5871]

Get them past c-3po first 😂✌️

[@taravati181]

Yeah Lord of the Rings eat Star Wars lunch and drinks it's milkshake too

[@scottsspot]

No question

[@caligreenclean]

Wise, this one is.

[@justaGardeningGamer]

I think the main problem with stories these days is one nobody wants to risk making their new story so they just adapt an existing story. The problem is modern writers don’t look at something and try to analyze what’s good about, said piece of media and think about how to build upon it while being respectful of what everybody loves about the original. But instead, they look at it as what was wrong with it, thinking that they are a far superior writer in every way. By doing so completely discarding, and in most cases outright insulting everything that made the original popular and insulting the fans who loved it. that doesn’t mean that the original piece of media was without flaws. But by going into a media thinking that you are going to “fix it” it’s most certainly not the way to go about adapting an existing franchise. Just as an example, I most often see writers fall into this trap when trying to inject a female or LGBTQ character into an existing franchise that had a little of either. Because they view the media as flawed because it didn’t have those characters in it they feel they’re justified in writing their characters into it as a sort of fix ignoring why those characters may or may not have been in that position. that doesn’t mean you can’t write those characters into that position, however writing a character that would reasonably fit within the existing media is very important. And just inserting your own wishful fantasy into whatever media you want is not writing, it is fanfiction. And most fanfiction sucks because the whims of the writer take precedent over the compelling nature of a story.

[@beardedweirdo790]

Frodo is a damsel in distress who suffers main character syndrome

[@phatnana2379]

Dying legacy?? Absolutely not. The Hobbit trilogy wasn't great and people really don't like The Rings of Power but they don't effect how people think of the Peter Jackson LOTR film trilogy! The original LOTR film trilogy definitely stands alone and WAY above the others in MUCH different way than something like how Star Wars episodes 4-6 stand out in their fictional universe. It's actually kind of strange how it does! It's just SO freaking good that it's very much it's OWN thing

[@justthinkingoutloud2538]

I made my own video on this, but Frodo not being an epic hero was kind of the whole point of the story. It is not the power of men that defeats darkness. Frodo's simple humility and willingness to do whatever he could to bring about the end of the ring was of far more worth that any of his companions' heroism. As awesome as Aragorn or Gandalf's heroic moments were, they could never have done what Frodo did. That was Boromir's weakness, thinking that their strength was enough to defeat the enemy. Tolkien's point, and what Gandalf, Galadriel, and Aragorn understood was that only God can vanquish evil, and He can use even the most humble and unassuming instruments. Those who rely on their own strength are those prone to corruption. Besides, even if Frodo's feat wasn't as dramatic as others' it's probably the most admirable. He willingly submitted himself to suffer the influence of the greatest evil on the planet until it completely destroyed him. The toll that took on his mind and soul is hard to imagine. Sam is awesome, and Frodo couldn't have finished the quest without him, but calling him the real hero is like saying your friend who supports you when you're overcoming an addiction or fighting through depression is the real hero of your story. Frodo deserves all the credit as the story's hero, even if Elijah Wood can occasionally be rather annoying.

[@killergrumpy1329]

I think you guys are both wrong. Yes Frodo is the hero but is Sam and everyone else are too. The fellowship entirely deserved the credit. Giving it to just an individual is unfair because everyone sacrifices. Anyway, great take tho

[@justthinkingoutloud2538]

@killergrumpy1329 When I said "all the credit," I didn't meet that he and he alone deserves praise for his actions. Everyone in the fellowship was a hero, everyone had their part to play. I just meant that Frodo deserves all the credit of being considered the protagonist, which many say he didn't earn.

[@JosiahL87]

Tolkien was set on doing a Christian story. So Gandalf resurrecting mirrors Jesus. Yes there’s a lot more to it than that but that is the ultimate reason for that.

[@Ayem427]

He really was a subtler version of CS Lewis at the end of the day wasn't he lol

[@Legofps123]

The one thing I fault these movies for is failing to represent The Ring well. So many people say this nonsense about Frodo, and that Sam is the true hero. They are all true heroes, and Frodo is the biggest one, he made the greatest sacrifice, and it's writen in a way that should make you believe that no one else would be able to do what he did

[@WombleFX]

🔥

[@apuapustaja4444]

Gandalf is a maiar (like an angel, to my understanding) and was sent back to help save the world.

[@justthinkingoutloud2538]

26:48 Arwen already had way more screentime than she deserved, especially in the Extended Editions. Not that she's a bad character, but they just made up a bunch of nonsense about her needing to leave Middle-Earth and her fate being tied to the ring just to give Liv Tyler enough to do to justify her paycheck. Again, I'm not hating her character, just that most of her scenes are the only ones in the Extended Editions I don't miss in the theatrical cut.

[@taravati181]

it wasnt frodo's fault at weathertop had the other hobbits not started a campfire they wouldnt have been found

[@SlinkyDog22]

Where is the book of carol video, I'm losing my mind

[@akshaytrayner1960]

I love this trilogy I don’t hate the the hobbit trilogy they a lot of flaws but they still like them

[@koulor315]

what u mean dying ? one of the greatest trilogies ever

[@stretchmonster]

He's not talking about the trilogy, he's talking about the franchise.

[@IcefisherTenacity]

Y’all are going to lose your minds when this enters the public Domain.

[@dookieburrito9196]

Better than Harry Potter, Star Wars, marvel.

[@MarrisaPlays]

ummm yeah so we just need a new Frodo to drop the whole franchise into the volcano its the only way we can save it from the doom of Star Wars

[@KristingusPorpingus]

Kids today dont have the attention span to watch lotr

[@lightningmonky7674]

Dude YES a fight with aragon vs Sauron would have made these 10\10s an 11/10!

[@Ayem427]

Comparing rings of power to Clone Wars is insane lmao, Clone Wars is a masterpiece, rings of power is a cheap Silmarilion knockoff (seriously how does AMAZON of all corpos not get the rights to the Silmarilion)

[@MorgothsBalrog]

Book frodo is way better than movie frodo. And if Sauron showed up at the Black Gate, fans would fucking riot.

[@gryphonvert]

Yeah, honestly, I'm so glad they realized "Tolkien didn't want this; if he'd wanted it, he would have written it", and abandoned that idea. That test footage looked goofy. I feel like the prologue does a good job of representing Sauron as a giant humanoid figure, making him look powerful and intimidating. But there, he's swinging his mace and sending a dozen men flying with each stroke. Of course, that was with the One Ring, and if he'd been in the Battle of the Black Gate, he wouldn't have had it. But that would have been hard to convey to the audience -- like, how can Aragorn go toe to toe with him NOW? In the prologue, he seems like a legendary figure, and that's how he should stay. Putting him on the battlefield at the end would have diminished him. (I always really liked that he was just The Eye in these movies. I liked the idea that he was incorporeal likely *because* he didn't have the Ring.) Also, yeah... poor Frodo. Definitely more hardy and a stout enough fighter in the books.

[@Bazz0li]

Mate you need to read the books!

[@abramsullivan7764]

I want to ask how old were you Thirfty when you first watched the Lotr trilogy?

[@gryphonvert]

He said it twice in the video: he was 7.

[@PacificEgg]

I think ive watches the extended far more than the theateical, so when you say ceetain things aren't in the theateical I ger confused. Such as Sarumans death 😂

[@andrewvincent7299]

This is a fantastic video but no one should listen to your advice to watch the regular cut movies over the extended editions. You speak madness lol. The extended editions are the definitive editions.

[@ilijas3041]

Who am I to disagree with Thrifty... and yes, I am no one to disagree with Thrifty, but you are very sooo too much wrong about Sauron fighting in the end. He was never a fighter, unlike his daddy Morgoth who was winning duels left and right. Sauron fought in person only 2 times in history, lost the first fight to a girl with a dog, and lost the second one (to elf and a dude) along with the ring and his physical form. So choosing a petty squabble with some mortal human who will die on his own anyways in a blink of an eye (from Maia point of view) over the possibility to get the ring back... that would be soooo out of character, Rings of Power level stupid

[@thegoldman25]

Hot take: The Rings of Power is better than The Hobbit Trilogy

[@thethriftytypewriter]

Probably a fair assessment. But Martin Freeman as Bilbo is goated.

[@stretchmonster]

Oh you've gone and done it now. This thread should be interesting lol

[@gryphonvert]

@@thethriftytypewriter 1. Yes, he really is. 2. I'll go to bat for a lot of the dwarves too, and the way their actors brought them to life. You have only to look at past attempts to adapt The Hobbit to see that most people couldn't figure out how to differentiate the dwarves, so they wind up being an anonymous group, with only one or two (generally Thorin and Balin) standing out at all. I wouldn't say that every choice made about all the dwarf characters was a big winner; but I'd say that the majority of them are. And, 3. while the trilogy suffered first by being a trilogy (it should have been 2 movies, that's what Jackson wanted), and second by not having the pre-production time, you can still feel the way that all the main actors and many in the production deeply cared about the story and the world. No, I can't say it's fair to call RoP better than the Hobbit. Because RoP keeps demonstrating that it doesn't get Tolkien, and frankly, it doesn't get basic storytelling. (Or costuming.). I could find you a hundred fanfic writers who could put together a better and more cohesive treatment of the basic story they're trying to cover, and it would both be more coherent and feel more true to Middle Earth; and would have dialogue that sounded more like Tolkien's too. It's very difficult to point to any performance, character, or storyline in RoP that nails what it's trying to do. Meanwhile, fans have created edits of The Hobbit that strip away all of the excess and just cover the basics of the book, and it's great.

[@thethriftytypewriter]

@@thegoldman25 So It Begins…

[@benbeaulieu3049]

it’s ur fav trilogy but you’ve never seen the extended editions?

[@stretchmonster]

He literally talks about the extended editions throughout the video.

[@YTKipz]

I’ve never seen the lord of the rings (like many movies you cover) so I’m excited to see how it holds up. I used to play the hobbit game on my grandmas computer in like 2003-4 and I loved it I just can’t bring myself to sit thru 9-12 hours of movies

[@ilovebluecheese]

Brother, go watch LOTR right now!!!

[@stretchmonster]

Why haven't you watch The Lord of the Rings? Genuinely curious.

[@chandler2814]

Just watch the original if youve never seen it???? Yeah no bro you must delve into the world of middle earth you must become one with the extended editions 😂

[@BoHorn]

Ive got the solution: Stop making them. Not every well fleshed out fictional universe needs to be the MCU. As brilliant as the source material is no matter how well you attempt to mass produce content from it you will end up spreading it thin.

[@Ayem427]

Yeah, tbh I think as fans we need to just exercise some restraint and ignore anything they put out unless it's demonstrably worthwhile

[@briana8088]

Just stick to the trilogy, then. Let others enjoy the other LOTR works.

[@BoHorn]

@@briana8088 Its an understandable thought process, but “just ignore the parts you dont like” becomes less reasonable as a thread of logic the more you follow where it ends. Its like if I said “just stick to the comments you like, then”. Well, why should that be how entertainment and discussion works? Kids are picky eaters and need to explore what they like and do not like and it can change. If they stuck to chicken nuggets and mac n cheese itd be a sad world of food.

[@nanciglitterati4468]

Dying? Afft.

[@anthonyhanks-yv9on]

Hell clone wars was so much better than rings of power

[@queenberuthiel5469]

Hey!!! 'Wag kang magsalita ng patapos. 😅😅😅

[@paradox4780]

Is the thumbnail AI? Looks bad

[@thethriftytypewriter]

Nope it’s a combination of different things from artists that I found on DeviantArt. I thought they were great. I don’t use AI unless it’s specified on screen in the video.

[@paradox4780]

@thethriftytypewriter I appreciate the clarification and your time. Even if I didn't like it, I would take a man-made thumbnail any day. Keep up the good work.

[@spencerheaton3332]

Lol no

[@BlackDogProductions_]

Chill

[@Crimson_Hawk_01]

LOTR is dead ☠️ because Amazon killed it.

[@CaptShriver]

The rings of power was a woke nightmare and I'm not talking about racism. I'm not racist so when I say woke I'm not referring to racism. I'm talking about intersectional feminism and dei. Don't expect intelligence. I suppose it also can be diversity, equity and inclusion. People should be hired to act because they're good actors not because they're white, black, green, yellow or blue straight or gay. It should be based upon merit

[@bradcarver8127]

What are you talking about? All medieval Anglo Saxon based societies were incredibly diverse like modern day LA

[@elishr209]

I mean even if that stuff was not in the series it would still be bad. So much stuff is wrong with it, managed to get through season 1, hoping the second one would be better. Watched 5 minutes and then gave up on it.

[@davemccage7918]

@@bradcarver8127A small tribe of about 30 or so hobbits will clearly have Asians, whites, blacks and Mexicans in it, because reasons.

[@bradcarver8127]

@davemccage7918 Ahh ahh Harfoots. Very similar but legally different to avoid lawsuits

[@stretchmonster]

Then don't watch it. Problem solved.

[@collindysart6472]

My dude you are not good at this. You just say over and over that, “I like this,” and “I like that.” Who cares? Do some real analysis.

[@nelis-69]

Is it gandalf's return you don't get?

[@thebigcheese8042]

Tolkien probably didn't think people wouldn't be able to read like they can't today, so he probably thought sauron and sauroman would be easy for people who should be literate. By the way this isnt a joke look at the literacy rates in the US alone its pathetic.

[@kenthehobo]

This may be the most unnecessary video on the trilogy.

[@mooncheese4176]

hows that that? Just asking for when i finnish the video.