The Lumix S5 Redefines The Cinema Camera | Meike Cine Lens Review

#cinemacamera #cinemalens
I'm really tired of the debate of what makes a cinema camera. In this video we break down recent releases and see how they stack up to traditional definitions of cinema cameras. The Sony FX3 really threw a wrench in the cinema camera world and even affordable options like the Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K and 6K further complicate the conversation. I think Panasonic is making cinema cameras even if we don't call them cinema cameras. Perhaps lenses are how we create a cinema camera now? So let's test the Meike Full Frame Cinema lens on the Panasonic S5 to settle this debate once and for all. Please don't argue in the comments.
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00:00 - Intro & Context
01:13 - The Lumix S5 Is A Cinema Camera
02:08 - P4K VS S5
03:14 - Chapter 5
04:16 - Meike Introduction and Features
04:50 - Sweat Break
05:24 - Brass Tax
06:45 - Price & Quality
08:45 - Cheaper Alternatives
10:11 - Footage Samples
11:49 - Conclusion
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[@impatrickt]

everything I own is covered in dust just like my soul

[@GregTardif]

I think Marty hacked your KZbin

[@JamieMcEwanOfficial]

Makes life feel more vintage

[@silverlightphotoco]

Dear Pat...I want to say your contribution to us is very appreciated!

[@impatrickt]

@@silverlightphotoco thank you!

[@silverlightphotoco]

@@impatrickt I don't know if you can believe what I said in my last comment, but I really mean it...

[@joshdiditt]

If anyone is still on the fence about the Panasonic S5, just read this: 1. Full Frame 4.2.2 10 bit 2. Unlimited recording in 8 bit 4k or 10 bit 1080. 3. 5.9k external Pro Res-RAW 3.5. 5.9k BRAW externally with Blackmagic Monitor 4. Anamorphic support built in ( with desqueeze) 5. 180 degree shutter angle 6. Removable rubber slot for Dummy battery cable 7. Dual native ISO 8. Great battery life 9. Extremely reliable. No overheating in any modes 10. $1700 on Amazon. 11. Built in time lapse that creates the video in camera. 12. Great low light performance 13. IBIS 14. You can get two of these for the price of 1 A7siii or FX3.

[@mustdi39]

my biggest quest tho..how many stops of Dynamic Range tho?

[@familygonzcartwright]

@@mustdi39 I saw it in a video by dpreviewtv. It has more than the Netflix approved Lumix Bgh1. It has the same sensor as the Lumix S1H that's also Netflix approved...

[@Ariel_emerald]

@@mustdi39 14 stops

[@silverlightphotoco]

@@mustdi39 Regarding "dynamic range" there are a number of variables I tweak to work on it, including: 1. Using lenses that render lower contrast (the Canon FD lenses Patrick uses are well-known for this characteristic) 2. "Expose for the highlights" to avoid overexposed areas (overexposure can make the image look like it has less dynamic range) unless shooting in RAW, where you "expose to the right" to favor the shadows. 3. Use a filter to reduce the contrast, such as Tiffen's Hollywood FX filters (including Black Pro Mist). I used to use cheap, plastic Cokin filters when necessary to lift the shadows and smooth highlight rolloff, etc.😄

[@Aviciiz]

@@mustdi39 More than the R5. You can visit CineD for lab test in dynamic range

[@AngelaHollowell]

Would love to see how you rigged up your S5. It'll probably be my next camera.

[@bargh70]

Every now and then you find a KZbinr with great high quality videos and the right attitude paired with it and they don't have a huge view count. This is one of those times.

[@Emiliotakas]

I love the sound of the examples so so much!!!! Well done my friend!

[@impatrickt]

you should release a music pack of just plucking guitar!

[@Emiliotakas]

@@impatrickt I will just for you and your channel :)

[@impatrickt]

@@Emiliotakas you should watch mosquito coast on Apple TV. that was my inspo

[@Emiliotakas]

@@impatrickt Thanks for the suggestion. I will for sure!

[@ThomasJohn1]

Patrick, great video. Do you use the full version of FilmBox or the free lite version?

[@impatrickt]

Full version

[@diegolnoriega]

PATRICK, i´ve been using lumix since gh4. i bought the S5 couple of weeks ago, and thanks i get to know your channel. Great, great content. congrats

[@impatrickt]

awesome! enjoy it :)

[@TheFraziers]

Awesome video! Patrick, curious if your footage reel was shot in Prores Raw 5.9k or with internal codecs?

[@impatrickt]

Cheers! It’s just the 72mbps h265 internal. I honestly can’t be bothered with ProResRAW. Files are huge. No practical benefit for me.

[@TheFraziers]

@@impatrickt How do the H.265 files perform when editing? Taxing on your computer? Proxies? You ever compare it to the higher bit rate h264 files?

[@impatrickt]

@@TheFraziers I’m on M1 machines so h265 runs better than h264. Much prefer the h265 in every single way. Smooth as butter and so much info in the files for grading.

[@TheFraziers]

@@impatrickt Thanks for the response! This is one my favorite channels right now

[@impatrickt]

@@TheFraziers appreciate you! Thanks.

[@zakross]

Found you from Gerald Undone! I love this comprehensive explanation! Subscribing!

[@MattNormanFilms]

This was a great review. Nice job

[@Room_237]

Dude thanks so much for this video. You said it right, its not always about the camera body, its the lens you use. Cheers!

[@camillerobin4689]

As a BMPCC4K owner, glad to learn my S5 quest is great! Thanks man! You have been seen from France!

[@impatrickt]

Cheers! The pocket 4K is a great camera and they match up nicely now too with Gen 5.

[@camillerobin4689]

@@impatrickt Thanks man, I appreciated it, carry on!

[@northernsandwich]

@patrick tomasso Fantastic video man thank you. I am waiting for the S5IIX and can't wait to get my hands on it and get out and shoot. ONE QUESTION - what is the music you used in the 'Footage Samples' section of your video. It was beautiful. Let me know - thanks!

[@impatrickt]

I don’t recall the music sorry

[@Goandseetv]

Quick question...in the sample footage for the Meike did you have S5 IBIS on or was it off? Thanks in advance!!

[@impatrickt]

I mention that in the video it’s on

[@Goandseetv]

@@impatrickt Thanks! Missed it.😅

[@sgagic]

Patrick, thank you so much for the info about Meike lenses. This video was eye opening. Keep up the good work.

[@impatrickt]

Cheers!

[@rubiotv]

I’ve had my eye on the Meike cine lens since spencer made his video. I’ve been torn on the 50m and the 85Mm. I am probably going to rent two of them for an upcoming shoot if it happens.

[@pierrelemeut2833]

Very nice review dude. I want to buy this combo, S5 and Meike's lenses and you convince me that is a very good idea ! And I agree with your speech, we doesn't care about what camera we use, we juste have to make good story with it ! Your footage are very nice by the way !

[@MaestroLaVille]

This is a fantastic video! Very dope and informative! New Subscriber!

[@impatrickt]

Awesome, thank you!

[@carvera9496]

Thank you for your true gut right honesty. You genuineness is so much appreciated. Please keep you coming. Thank you, thank you, thank you!

[@jakekeele]

Love the video. Thank you for all the insightful info. I noticed you have a Rode videomic ntg on your rig. I’ve been having issues getting one to play nice with my S5 using the included sc10 Rode cable. Did you run into any similar issues?

[@impatrickt]

No issues! You have the port set to power the mic?

[@jakekeele]

Now I do. I had it set to where the mic would supply it’s own power. Switching the audio settings to where the port is supplying power to the mic fixed the issues I was having. Wouldn’t having this setting turned on drain the battery of my S5 faster?

[@impatrickt]

@@jakekeele the power draw on the mic is so low that i dont even think it would remove a minute of battery life on the s5. the rode itself lasts up to 30+ hours on its tiny battery.

[@jakekeele]

Gotcha, thank you for taking the time to give me your input 🤘🏼

[@ArchieGee]

Great video, Patrick!

[@BNC593]

LOL! Best channel ever! Well done. Love the S5!

[@charlescowper]

Is there any latency when using external monitors? I’m thinking for focus pulling. Thanks.

[@impatrickt]

Not that I’ve noticed I’m sure there is though

[@omnihassan246]

I sold my pocket 6k for the S1(your channel helped with that decision)..Trade offs were full frame, stabilization, lens adaptability, better form factor, tilt screen (i prefer over flippy), low light, photo capability, and in my opinion an on-par image. I know were talking about the S5, but same principle lol..and thats not even getting into the hdmi raw output option with the BM video assist which i am definitely getting. NO regrets so far

[@ludovicavice3496]

6k got better dynamic range tho 🙈 and better image IQ/ texture than the s1. I also got the s5 and kept the pocket. It's more practical to use the panas in these jobs than having to rig a huge cam

[@omnihassan246]

@@ludovicavice3496 trust me I made thousands using the 6k I still prefer the S1 for my needs..that slight bit of quality on the pockets don’t equate to any more extra money from clients 👍🏾. That said, I love the pocket cameras I owned both

[@ludovicavice3496]

Indeed clients don't even notice..why burden urself with p6k hehe.

[@omnihassan246]

@@ludovicavice3496 I miss it tho. Lol I need both gonna grab the 6k pro in February

[@mattprince2007]

I have the s5 and Meike ff lenses and just starting out. Have a decent follow focus but seriously considering getting rid of the lenses and getting the Panasonic s lenses as they have autofocus. Do you think the Meike lenses are far better quality optically or not that much different. Better to stick and learn manual focus?

[@impatrickt]

Personal preference. Whatever you like better.

[@owen_poffenroth]

I kind of feel a similar way about my gh5 right now, it can't shoot raw and doesn't have a crazy amount of dynamic range but I still think it competes with a lot of low end cinema cameras

[@impatrickt]

I still keep a GH5 around. great camera.

[@lucasdguerra]

Hey mate! What is this adaptader you were using?

[@impatrickt]

adapter?

[@lucasdguerra]

@@impatrickt yeah! These meike lenses are L Mount ? I thought they were ef mount and you used a L to EF mount adapter!

[@impatrickt]

@@lucasdguerra they’re L mount

[@lucasdguerra]

@@impatrickt thanks mate! You were one of the responsibles on buying the s5!

[@Bonjurro]

I want to live with a cinnamon camera… I could be happy the rest of my life with a cinnamon camera

[@TheFilmmakersWorkshop]

Enjoyed the vid. Filmmaking is reaching a critical point, like digital photography and graphic design before it. Collaborating to make better (indie/internet) films is where I think we need to go- like Andyax from Norway. Anyhoots, good job PT. Stay cool.

[@impatrickt]

yeah and in the review space... its 100% plateauing. almost every camera ive been sent in the last year checks all the boxes. going forward its just lenses... and bell's and whistles to make life easier.

[@MesaVerdeProductions]

Hey. Which font did you use for your name/logo/AirPod Max video title? Please do let me know :)

[@impatrickt]

i had it made for me by a design agency its called “times new broman”

[@silas1414]

Be interested to hear what issues you have with Rokinon lenses? I’ve been considering the 35mm T1.5 as I haven’t found anything with quite the same painterly bokeh in that price range. .

[@impatrickt]

Shit build quality. Bad image quality.

[@raksh9]

Can you do a video about the rigging for the S5? The cage, handle, monitor, how things are connected.

[@impatrickt]

Probably not - rig videos kinda bore me! Maybe tho!

[@andrerenaud1759]

For the 28mm lens on my S5II what is the equivalent,with the crop factor? P.S:I love your work ans your direct style!!!

[@impatrickt]

28mm is 28mm because it's full frame - no crop unless you go into APS-C mode

[@stiknpoke]

Fantastic video -- own one myself! Can I ask what the aspect ratio on the bulk of your video is? Crafty! Still shot full frame 16x9?

[@impatrickt]

this video is 2:1

[@stiknpoke]

@@impatrickt fab. Thanks Patrick. Also loving my S5. I sensed it was going to be the hidden gem for those of us down the 'new release' rabbit hole last fall... and to this day, keeps blowing my mind with how capable it is for internal shooting alone. ProresBraw and Raw and... blah blah blah... f** that. After speaking with all kinds of post and pre-workflow geniuses, including Alex Mack, shooting 10bit 422 with spherical on this beast is better than what *anyone* reading this will *ever* need, including widescreen festival projection. It's cinema in a box. As for any actual filmmaker detractors? Cassevettes would lunge from his grave and wrap his cold dead fingers around your throat for wanting anything more than this thing gives you. Run to the nearest dealer and git one. I beseech you. And if you need AF, you're not doing it right. Use adaptors, get the lenses you like, and tell some great stories. There. You're future-proofed for at least the next few years, given *no one* screens movies in 4K because downsampling from 4K to HD or Prores 422 HQ is more than good enough. Git on it. You're welcome

[@ondrejjanoska660]

I got few weeks ago fd 50 1.4 in "as new" condition and I must say it has some kind of magic in it! Now I am gonna be waiting and biding for 24 2.8 .... and after 85mm 1.8.....

[@Aviciiz]

2:13 is that the standard rec709 lut from pana? Because those greens look very nice compared to the pocket

[@impatrickt]

Yeah

[@anthonymelendez2605]

this was very inspirational.

[@shayan0245]

Your S5 grading process? love your vids. got an s5 after your videos

[@impatrickt]

I’ve been using FilmBox Film emulation plugin for Resolve - hope you’re enjoying the S5!

[@shayan0245]

@@impatrickt yesss its super good. Better than what the people say about it. I edit on davinci, checked out the filmbox but as its paid I neglected it but what I do is convert it to arri colors and then to rec 709 so it looks even better color wise then grade it after. Any other plugins like filmbox?

[@impatrickt]

@@shayan0245 dehancer is pretty good too! I also like emotivecolor’s Alexa lut!

[@beng6458]

You should do an A-B comparison to the FD lenses and Meike. Been on my mind lately if I want to go through the trouble of converting a set of these to save a few bucks, or buy some of these Meikes over a year slowly. Thanks for the video, thing is a sleeper beast.

[@impatrickt]

they would look entirely different. its like comparing a 1987 civic to a 2021 civic. go with the lens you prefer the look of/cost.

[@beng6458]

@@impatrickt 2021 Civic

[@impatrickt]

@@beng6458 good choice

[@dapunkof1975]

Do you ever see glitching or line skipping when using Prores Raw with your S5?

[@impatrickt]

i only used it once in my initial review - have no need or desire to deal with ProRes RAW again. didnt have issues when i did my test though. i just use the h265 internal.

[@restlake]

as someone who owns the camera and does shoot ProRes RAW and has seen this issue, it can be problematic. turning off time code over hdmi seems to solve it (haven’t seen it with time code disabled) and supposedly Panasonic is fixing it in a firmware update in collaboration with Atomos. personally love shooting RAW with the S5!

[@dapunkof1975]

@@restlake turning off timecode from within atomos V or from the S5?

[@restlake]

@@dapunkof1975 disable it from the S5, seems to help

[@krum81]

I picked up a meike 35 cine , it is awesome and fun and getting some cool shots. One question , if I try walking at all stabilization with cines seems to bounce , is that normal ?

[@impatrickt]

There’s no OIS so it’s only the in body which isn’t great.

[@krum81]

@@impatrickt appreciated man, always enjoy your videos .

[@impatrickt]

@@krum81 cheers!

[@jasonnowwhat5041]

Love love love the abrupt change at 5 minute mark. I kinda wish you just started going crazy about everything that sucks for the remainder of the video!

[@RandomMotoThings]

Was any diffusion used on the 85mm lens footage?

[@impatrickt]

no

[@ORod425]

Patrick, love your stuff…. Question from someone that is trying to learn? What is follow focus ? Would you be able to link me a video explaining it if possible? Appreciate it! Great video!

[@impatrickt]

It’s a little motor that attaches to the lens and you can remotely control the focus! Search for Nucleus Nano!

[@ORod425]

@@impatrickt Dude, Thanks for taking the time to respond! Means a lot ! Watched a video about it and it’s something I don’t need JUST yet..

[@impatrickt]

@@ORod425 yeah I have one and rarely use it. dont worry about it!

[@Peter-kx6qs]

What type of lens mm can I get for the s5?

[@impatrickt]

im not sure what this question means?

[@MarcelloMOV]

I was casually listening to this video while focusing my Rokinon 35mm on my GH5s and I laughed so hard when you mentioned their lenses lol.

[@impatrickt]

LOL

[@SOLIDSNAKE.]

Is this a good camera for a first time buyer I'm so torn between Sony and Canon and lenses idk I just want something to invest in that will be great for years to come any input from anyone would be appreciated

[@impatrickt]

There’s just one thing you need to know to make the call. Do you want good autofocus in video or not? If you want AF go Sony. If not. Go S5.

[@marknugentfilms]

I agree that people get too hyped up about the cine camera vs mirrorless debate, but my issue with the fx3 is how Sony calls it a cine camera, even putting the word cine on the body, but without giving it any useful internal tools, like waveforms or shutter angles (180 instead of 1/50 for anyone who doesn’t know). Which are features in your S5, so I would argue your S5 is more of a cinema camera than the FX3. It just feels like Sony was trying to pull bit of a fast one, like painting a car red and saying it’s faster…

[@impatrickt]

Yeah that is bizarre isn’t it? I wonder if Sony will fix that in firmware.

[@marknugentfilms]

@@impatrickt I hope they do. I think they really missed out, because with those tiny features, the FX 3 would absolutely be a better video choice over the A7s III. Putting the word Cine on the body and calling it a day with way too cheeky haha

[@impatrickt]

@@marknugentfilms I think all the Sony’s are overpriced still though. The fact that the Lumix cameras can record BRAW now too is a huge deal.

[@marknugentfilms]

@@impatrickt Agreed, I love Panasonic's versatility, which is why I haven't switched. Having both BRAW and PRO RES Raw is really cool.

[@CardonaThe2nd]

I haven’t watched the video yet so based on the pinned comment, I give this a 10/10 must watch 🍿

[@XhonDang]

We’re always on the same wavelength. I’ve had my eyes on the S5. Now, because of this video. I’m sold. I’m not getting it.

[@impatrickt]

LMAO

[@_mel.low_official]

Lol did you mean to say I'm NOW getting it xD

[@XhonDang]

supper funny how i was looking at lens combos on the s5ii and this video came up. my comment did not age well@@impatrickt

[@Metronade1]

WHAT WAS THE FONT IN THE BEGINNING?

[@impatrickt]

who cares

[@Metronade1]

@@impatrickt :(

[@SaptarshiiRoy]

Excellent content!! Should I go with Sony A7C or Lumix S5??

[@impatrickt]

i have no idea who you are or what you do so i can’t make that decision for you

[@temitayoisme]

So accurate

[@scorpisces182]

12:26 love it! Ive been considering the S5, looking up reviews, and discovered your channel the other day. After watching this one... subscripted. Really tempted to grab an S5 but also trying to hold off as much as I can for more info on the GH6.

[@impatrickt]

If you don’t already have micro four thirds lenses I would get the S5.

[@scorpisces182]

@@impatrickt Yeah, I don't. I'm just on the Canon M50, so the S5 does make more sense as an upgrade.

[@level6visuals363]

what lens did you use for this video?

[@impatrickt]

the video was shot on the xt3

[@liberteefoxtv3463]

Thank so much for your pro.. and Deep humility!! Keep going you are amazing young boy ;-)) Steve K. E1 Studios

[@danieldougan269]

Here's what Sony could have / should have done. Instead of making the a7S III and the FX3, create a single camera with a detachable EVF. Bonus points if the EVF had an HDMI input so it could be repositioned anywhere on a rig. I know some companies like Zacuto and Portkeys sell specialized EVFs that work this way, but Sony could have made one that made more sense both on and off the hotshoe. They could have made the EVF an optional purchase or sell it in a kit. On top of that, I think a proper cinema or video camera should have built-in ND filters. I don't think that would have made the camera too unwieldy. Blackmagic proved it could be done without adding too much bulk to a camera. (Granted, the BMPCC 6K was already bulky, but the 6K Pro isn't that much bulkier.)

[@impatrickt]

There’s just no market for that in the segment the fx3/A7siii targets. The 6K pro is a mess of ergonomics. One of the most uncomfortable cameras I’ve ever used.

[@micahmartinez4382]

My boy straight up stole the angry birds theme for the reel at the end.

[@ADNZ5442]

I really want to get a whole set of Canon FD lenses for the S5, but I’m super worried about the radiation on them. Do you know which ones are not radioactive - would worry they might damage my Sigma lenses? Awesome video!!!

[@impatrickt]

There’s literally nothing to worry about. Whoever told you the radiation was dangerous on these better throw all of their electronics away. You’d have to literally eat one of these and have sit in your stomach for 20 years for it to be an issue.

[@FishVisionsMedia]

WHY and HOW did the footage look so good?!! I’m looking to get the S5, pretty sold on it, but NEVER have I seen footage from it that looked as good as this! I literally said out loud, on my way to work, “WHATT?!! HOW does this look so good? It looks like a movie!” 😂 Is it the lens? Because i e wanted to look into Cinema lenses, but don’t really know much about them.

[@impatrickt]

I think it looks shit - im just kidding. there's nothing special. shoot in nice soft light, focus on composition! all cameras are great.

[@GregTardif]

Whiskey pour is very Wes Anderson. Nice job

[@impatrickt]

well I dont like wes Anderson so fuck me right

[@GregTardif]

@@impatrickt fine what about Yasukiro Ozu?

[@impatrickt]

@@GregTardif no idea who that is and I won’t google

[@jordanfish]

My instinct is to invest in the PL versions of these lenses so they can live on to work with other camera bodies and other mounts.

[@impatrickt]

might as well! they wanted me to test the L mount so I was down.

[@zenroseee]

This is beautiful

[@impatrickt]

thanks!

[@xiaoyangjin2655]

what is cinema camera = the camera shot majority of cinema project

[@rw3452]

Indeed. That L mount isn’t great. I also wish the had good adapters for EF that had good autofocus. Well as good as S5 can deliver.

[@impatrickt]

The new S primes are really nice and cheap. AF is great too. I’ve tested the 50mm and 85mm.

[@rw3452]

@@impatrickt thanks, been loving your content btw. I have a GH5 and being sent a S5 to test next week so learning a lot from your videos!

[@OriginaldoBo]

Who wants to argue about cinema cameras even tho he said not ?

[@impatrickt]

or broccoli

[@photojoseph]

🍿

[@Weird_Quests]

Are you using this as your primary content creation camera?

[@impatrickt]

not the best person to ask that as i own quite a few different cameras. everything is good now - dont stress it.

[@Weird_Quests]

@@impatrickt Very true :D Just use what you have, I guess?

[@impatrickt]

@@Weird_Quests yes

[@alexiscastro5055]

Are you using a light diffusion filter on this video?

[@impatrickt]

Only on the talking head stuff with the XE4.

[@misterabroad123]

Why are you praising the Panasonic S5 camera on video but hating on it in your comments?

[@impatrickt]

people change mister abroad

[@misterabroad123]

@@impatrickt People also appreciate more of what they have when less options are available

[@davinjacobs]

All about that glass baby

[@YoussefHallouly]

What about Sirui anamorphic lenses, i think they look pretty "cine lens" also don't you think ? and they are pretty cheap also

[@impatrickt]

No honestly they’re some of the worst lenses I’ve ever used in terms of looking clinical and digital. Atrocious flares too.

[@YoussefHallouly]

@@impatrickt eww thanks haha so you recommend the Meike more for someone who is looking to buy his first cine lens? In on RF mount

[@YoussefHallouly]

@@impatrickt Another question do you know how it looks vs IRIX Cine lens?

[@RJ.THE.CREAT.OR.]

I'm trying to find that exact lens for my S5, but I don't see one that specifically address S5.

[@impatrickt]

Huh?

[@guillembernal9533]

s5 or a6700?

[@ronfoy9618]

Bro, so we not going to get your affiliate link for that Red Battery in the Atomos? 🙄

[@impatrickt]

nope

[@dbgmediainc7506]

Brother please I need help. None is replying to my comment lol. I am debating between the S5 and the Sony A7C. Both cameras come with a kit lense and their respective price as used in Excellent condition is $1750 for A7c and $1800 for the Panasonic S5. Kit lens for S5 is the 20-60mm and the A7c is 28-60mm I believe. That being said, if I buy the Panasonic S5 new,then there's a promo going on where I also get for free an extra lens, a Panasonic S85, so basically it would cost me $2200 usd new in box with both lenses. I just don't know if that 85mm lens is any good,if I would ever need it. Also there's an S5 in a store locally in a decent condition,it shows it has been used but is very clean, for $1550 also with tbe kit lens. I just don't know what to get. I will be doing standing still blogs,sort of seating down like you in this video or standing behind a desk talking about a product, although from a further distance, and I also want to be able to film the interior of custom desktop computers I build so I guess low light performance should be good. What do you recommend man, iam so confused

[@impatrickt]

a7c is kind of an oddball in the sony lineup. it has older color, old menus, its only 8 bit. but it has great autofocus. it has to come down to whether or not you want autofocus + cheaper lens system. if you want superior video features, minus AF then go lumix.

[@dbgmediainc7506]

@@impatrickt thank you so much man. Well actually the A7c for $1750 got sold, so now my only option left is an A7c body only for $1550, by the time I add a lens it might end up costing $2000. Might as well get the S5 new for $2200 with both kit lens and 85mm lens at this point. Thanks again 👍👍

[@JacksonHayes]

cinema camera truther

[@renzo2405]

They should make a firmware update for the audio because even with a Shotgun Microphone it's still peaks badly

[@impatrickt]

I’ve never had a mic clip it out

[@JulianIsAnthony]

Awesome video. I think I'm switching to an S5 to start building out a hybrid system. Did you personally go with L or PL version of the Meike? I know they make both and I wonder if the PL makes sense to just adapt onto the S5 as to make it more flexible in case you rent out a different body for a different project.

[@impatrickt]

I went L - id like to avoid adapters and prefer to use the FD lenses anyways.

[@JulianIsAnthony]

@@impatrickt damn, that was a quick response. I figured as much though. Thanks for the informative content though!

[@sosiehtsaus5357]

Can someone help? I have a skin tone issues with my Panasonic S1. While shooting 4k in V-Log in 50p over HDMI to either Atomos Ninja V or Atomos Shogun Inferno I'll get blotchy skin tones with magenta blotch artifacts. Also while recording internally on SD Card with 50p | 200M | LongGoP. 50p is unusable as of now. For all who ask themselves, yes, I know how to expose v log correctly. It's really sad as the 4k 25p looks gorgeous. I'm on firmware 2.1. Friend of mine has the same problem with his S5. Same thing.

[@impatrickt]

ive never seen this before but I know Lumix shoots pretty heavy magenta naturally

[@sosiehtsaus5357]

@@impatrickt i had the same issue with Gh5s couple of years ago. I mean obvious magenta artifacts not tints or color scheme/ color science of panasonic. Like blocks in a sense. You would see parts of the skin as kind of pink puddle where other parts are "correct". No smooth skin, hard edges between the pink and correct skin tone. It only occurs in V-Log not in any other picture profile.

[@impatrickt]

@@sosiehtsaus5357 sounds like you're in 8 bit mode if you're seeing artifacts in v-log

[@sosiehtsaus5357]

@@impatrickt nope, set to 10bit in hdmi rec output on S5 and on the S1 there is no control over 8bit or 10bit hdmi rec output but it's set to 4k, 10bit, 50p, 200M, Long Gop 4:2:0 internally. the best codec available for 4k 50p 10bit

[@sosiehtsaus5357]

its not happening in FullHD, 50p, 10bit btw

[@Ariel_emerald]

the lens looks like it has so much chromatic abberation lol, i noticed it in every shot. Was there a filter on there? it looked soft. It was a pleasing softness but not a look i'd go for all the time

[@impatrickt]

It does have chromatic aberration - easy to fix in photos. doesn’t bother me in video. looks cool. I also have red halation applied.

[@Ariel_emerald]

@@impatrickt the halation filter definitely enhanced it. great shots though. i also have an S5, so love to see content for that camera. new subscriber here, watching your Bo Burnham video currently lol

[@impatrickt]

@@Ariel_emerald welcome to the madness!

[@JamieMcEwanOfficial]

That sweat break is an amazing addition

[@eugene660]

I feel like u could say this was shot on imax and no one would notice

[@KDP2009]

I thought I was watching a camera video, left my phone for 1 minute to use the bathroom, and came back to global warming and aliens 5:00

[@safesolvent]

k.

[@jeffreynolds2190]

All the review S5 footage I have seen , the color grade seems to lack vivid colors, say compared to Fuji Xt 3, 4, Am I the only one who is noticing lack of vivid colors in this camera ?

[@impatrickt]

Teah

[@jeffreynolds2190]

@@impatrickt ?

[@impatrickt]

@@jeffreynolds2190 yeah you’re the only one that thinks that

[@jeffreynolds2190]

@@impatrickt Thanks Pat

[@motorsports4021]

I don't find the word !

[@keysersoze3707]

That HALATION doe

[@impatrickt]

FilmBox plug-in for resolve!

[@chrisbrockhurst]

Meike really didn’t nail these lenses.

[@impatrickt]

I think they did. Getting the whole set.

[@chrisbrockhurst]

@@impatrickt ask em and they will send you the whole set. There’s one more being released then mine are on the way.

[@impatrickt]

@@chrisbrockhurst yeah they already offered

[@Thedrewshow559]

Subbed for Bryan Cranston

[@ectoproductions]

Looks decent, but has quite a bit of red aberrations...

[@impatrickt]

thats the halation I added in post with FilmBox

[@CO8848_2]

I thought cinema camera is defined by price. $6000 and above - cinema. LOL.

[@impatrickt]

That would be silly.