The M+ Comps you NEED to ABUSE in S3 (ALL SPECS)

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0:00 - When does comp matter?
1:45 - Least flexible off-meta
5:06 - Flexible off-meta
7:16 - Honorable mentions
8:17 - DPS recap
9:24 - Healers
10:38 - Tanks
12:17 - Comp archetypes
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[@skillcappedwow]

Hey guys, ret was accidently omitted from the re-cap. Ret is covered at 6:21 in the 'flexible off-meta' section.

[@swftrr]

"even a warrior like you" way to call me out skill capped

[@mateuszhejniak5495]

In dps recap diagram you kinda missed to put ret pally anywhere.

[@urdrenn]

i nice addition would be a tank with BL/heroism. We have multiple DPS with this, multiple healers, but giving 1/2 tanks this toolkit would make groups less restrictive i think

[@nikitalazarev3621]

Warrior need bl. Prot warri with bl - perfect solution.

[@TheGoatLocker]

​@@nikitalazarev3621agreed, bloodlust just sounds like a warrior ability I mean come on

[@kiwi5891]

@skillcappedwow rogue basically has devotion aura - if shiv isnt needed, an even stronger one, but people keep sleeping on it so im not surprised its not mentioned xD

[@Impossibly-Possible]

Without a priest and aug i feel like wet paper on my balance druid, anything over 21 especially on tyrannical weeks i get one shot by lots of stuff if not already in bear form.

[@copsfoundme]

How would you build a premade around a person who only plays MM/BM hunter and someone who is Warrior/Enha shaman main? Rest are flexible

[@TheChuky18]

Say we should take classes with externals as enhancement like disc or aug, but then reccomends taking a hunter for the uncapped aoe - so who gets the externals now?

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[@Garbage315]

Why are cloth classes like Mage and Warlock infinitely more tankier than Mail classes? Like a Warlock can literally shrug off stuff that will one shot the giga squishies like enhance or MM hunter.

[@tarynbergland4925]

Mages have insane defensive cooldowns. Warlocks get to stack a ton of stam from talents and have a decent defensives.

[@majkatrojedjece6585]

Just tip if you are pvp SUB rogue player looking to try out m+, your versa mastery pvp gear is meta also, just need them trinkets and you are good to go.

[@leaverpool8059]

Warrior for the win! Oh wait we have new visuals now, for sure will help us grind higher keys!

[@lucadesanctis563]

Ya, will def help with Afflicted

[@opmami]

I timed a 27 tott with rog/dh/unholy/mistweaver/veng we didnt even have bl. Bring the player not the class ✌🏻

[@lucadesanctis563]

This should become the meta thinking

[@leovcarv]

Imo, DKs performs very well in TOTT, AMS helps in a lot of mechs, such as the knockback from 2nd boss (paired with Death Advance), fear from 3rd boss and the shadow dmg stack from last corridor

[@CaledonianCraft]

I mean 4 outa those 5 classes are meta and you don't know the player who is pugging into your group. I'm not against the statement it just doesn't really apply unless you have played with the person before.

[@southernsour1768]

Im 3,3k shadow and get declined in weekly 20s :)

[@AvatarOfPerdition]

DPS Recap: “what’s a ret paladin?”

[@zetrovv]

Unless you’re playing high high keys, Ret is fine for pugs cause they can handle all Afixxes easily.

[@disadadi8958]

@@zetrovvretri is fine for any level really.

[@lucadesanctis563]

U mean War right?

[@lucadesanctis563]

Good guide, but if u're playing War ppl will still refuse u

[@kgkemal9456]

You just mentioned mage ? which specs of mage

[@tarynbergland4925]

frost if youre bad at the game, fire if you want to play a high APM class, and arcane if you're good at the game. They're all really strong right now.

[@cosminbuiciac340]

you are right, but you are also part of the problem I would rather have a guy playing survival hunter and love it than a bot following a meta you say it maters from +23 but 90% of people don't care. if the "pros' say its meta, they will enforce it from a +2 you should know better

[@dreemil]

there will always be a meta, stop crying and get good

[@godprime2966]

group comp definitely matters when i recruit people in my +11 keys. It has all 3 affixes and it can get super rough to get through to the end and time it

[@loganmanagh2268]

In 11s your group probably doesn't know mechanics and it doesn't matter about comp.

[@frankanderson9577]

It also doesn't have all 3 affixes lol. 14's start

[@lucadesanctis563]

11's lol. U could push those with blue gear if u're really good

[@mattthewraugust3447]

@@lucadesanctis563that’s what I’m saying bro my fresh boosted WW was able to do almost 150k overall in 15s

[@takemyname4363]

Bad timing for a video like this with balance changes coming next week

[@luigi229m]

Why group all 3 mage in a single class, Arcane is nowhere to be seen and sure frost is a bit more popular, but nowhere near fire and nowhere near fire on survivability. And mass barrier the best defensive lol what a joke.

[@Seph.ackerman]

As it has always been - Just. Play. Mage.

[@kaspertroelsen5821]

Ehh.. Only fire mage is meta. I play Arcane in m+.

[@akanemo9125]

Ret/fire/outlaw. Best dps comp period.

[@Trentbail23]

You literally can’t make a non meta group with a frost dk. Go ahead and try

[@classicsgaming]

I think they explained it very poorly but off-meta quite typically means picking certain meta-classes that synergize well with the non-meta. So like “if you want to take a fury warrior consider taking a monk so their damage is increased.” Or “want to take a frost DK? Consider adding in classes with uncapped AoE damage and having a monk and DH to boost the frost DK damage.”

[@jimmyolsson6569]

Dropping this vid when balance druid is pretty much meta topping leaderboards replacing most of the dh's saying it´s off-meta lols.

[@EternalPayne666]

Sure in organized groups they blast but they ARE off meta. Especially being the squishiest class in the game most pugs can't handle babysitting them all key Whereas an organized group can play around the pumper boomie knowing they have to babysit them In the first minute he also called them honorable mention "close to or probably meta" anyways lmay

[@sinnis4993]

@@EternalPayne666 bruh, boomkin is way more tanky than havoc in high keys. there is a reason why teams are moving away from havoc. starting at +29 we get 1 shot

[@EternalPayne666]

You right 1 defensive is super tank my b The reason is their dps output amd Bres if comp goes pally tank

[@sinnis4993]

@@EternalPayne666 barkskin and bear. you hate to hear it, but bearform is op for dmg spikes...which we have a lot in s3. meanwhile havoc: we have blurr...thats it. boomkins dont outdmg havoc. they are just more tanky. thats it. same with mage or rogue. they are just more tanky, while doing somewhat less dmg (not a lot). you clearly dont run high enough keys to comment on that.

[@EternalPayne666]

I'm 3450 but you're totally right.

[@sl3498]

ferals not uncapped.

[@dabnscape5569]

Its uncapped.

[@sinnis4993]

you can hit an infinite amount of targets. thats what uncapped means. all specs are "capped" via dealing less dmg after x targets.

[@hornkev]

I can see why you want to say this but our two main AOE bleed attacks are not affected by mob count. Both Thrash and Primal Wrath don't reduce their damage when you have a lot of enemy mobs. Only Brutal Slash and the talent Rampant Ferocity deals reduced damage when hitting more than 5 mobs but our bleeds do more damage than anything else. Also Rip and Tear is applied to all that is hit by Primal Wrath so that is three dots for 8 seconds. With high mastery and Circle of Life and Death that is a lot of damage very quikly.

[@sandstorm7476]

So it is capped, some.

[@godprime2966]

gonna be honest if a guide is going to talk about all specs and show a hunter not feigning on the Iridikron mechanic and eating it a full damage imma pass

[@Sly_404]

That’s a stupid take when I ever read one. How does the background gameplay running devalue ANYTHING said in this vid?

[@mattthewraugust3447]

@@Sly_404he’s probably an elitist sitting at 2500 io

[@BebegosAspectOfBabyFlight]

@@mattthewraugust3447can 2500io be elitist? Aint that kinda medium?

[@mattthewraugust3447]

@@BebegosAspectOfBabyFlight was gettin at the fact he probably thinks he’s hot shit