The Mage Paladin | PvP Build

[@Jiggerjaw]

I always love how much thought goes into the PvP for this game. I've never been one for PvP in any game, but I definitely respect the hustle.

[@alexstef6965]

i don't even have to watch the video. the title alone is extremly frustrating.... why did this need a boost in PVP??? can't they just introduce a PVP penalty for it?? is it that hard??

[@Coooley]

I'm tilted too, trust me. lol We just gotta work with what we've got, though. They'll never put PvP at the forefront of their plans, unfortunately.

[@MarkMiller304]

The balance for 2.4 is just atrocious, build that didn’t need buffing got buffed and builds like ww with broken skills never got fixed. With stun nerfed it’s basically going to be long ranged caster meta only.

[@infernalmedia1784]

well it's not live yet so I would wait until it's live to call it a atrocious.

[@shawmeck9323]

"build that didn’t need buffing got buffed" I guess many players thought differently than you did on that :P WW will get fixed soon enough.

[@MarkMiller304]

@@shawmeck9323 *builds. Bonenecros, bowazons, foh, auradins. Those weren’t weak builds in pvp to begin with, most people that pvp complained about them, it’s the pvmers that wanted them buffed even more and now we are here.

[@Leafgreen1976]

You sound a little under the weather, Cooley. Hope you're better soon.

[@Coooley]

I was! Feeling better today. Nice catch.

[@nenoman3855]

He was hit by a blizz sorc. Hence the cold.

[@Nah_Bohdi]

He caught the Tristram Tuberculosis 2022 or CovTu-22. Many such cases.

[@jedgurner1]

Sounds like Steve-O

[@Cleav3r]

I have been playing mage since the launch of D2R and I prefer the 60/30 distribution as lightning damage can easily be absorbed especially in pub games where there is no strict absorb rule. 30 points in FOH related skills with 1 point in conviction can force your opponent to put on lots of lightning resist/absorb gears and charms (they need 300+ LR) and still keep a healthy hammer damage if they manage to absorb all of your FOH damage. I also distribute skill points based on wearing max DR% gears as that's the setup in most occasions. Griffon's/Arachnid ie max damage setup can only be used against hammerdins and necros. There is also a small tip - replace one pcomb with off aura gc when dueling mage and V/T so your conviction aura has a higher level which can invalidate theirs

[@noknownthrone2487]

I love that you showed dying in a duel. Also, makes me love this game even more, still a random blizz might just get ya! :D

[@abrahamovicovski]

I'd rather use upped TO gloves for extra cold res and a second soj for massive mana pump. Or a bloodfist and a 10 fcr ring with dex and resists to get to 86 fhr with measly 5 fhr sc. Rest looks good my man 👍🏻

[@megamastah]

Another hammerdin. I'm going to puke.

[@ilyu_-9735]

Basic tip.. Since you don't even use conviction you can keep your FoH on right click to namelock so you could telestomp with hammers..

[@Coooley]

Intelligent advice!

[@chichodormi4732]

🌰

[@gel87Kjetil]

I would always put 1 conv. For my vt that gave -95 alone... You have more skills and even a griffon. I assume like -130+ and that actually hurts most people. Unless you do pride duels with prices etc involed i would say mos people usually dont run 125 stack. Dropping a few skill point into foh or holy shock is totally worth it.. On swap you May use a 4 facet shield and just swap shields quickly while bo. 6700 foh dmg is not to much if you dont pierce res. Most people will use at least a wisp 20%. 6700*0,17*0,25*0,6 = 170 life. But lets say you sacrifice 4 skills into foh or its syntenergi and loose like 400 to 700 damage thats totally worth it. Lets assume u end up at 6k dmg. Lets assume enemy ends up at 50 res after pierce. 6000 * 0,17 *0,5*0,6 = 306. However, lets say enemy land at 0res. 6000 * 0,17 * 0,6 = 612 dmg. And then we check the difference if enemy totally stack it: 6000 * 0,17 * 0,25 * 0,6 = 153.. So you kill 30 life less vs the guys which stacks it all, meanwhile you deal 5-6 times the dmg vs people who struggle to stack it. Not only that people May need to nerf their gear heavy to stack it. They may end up dealing poor damage, lack ar to actually hit u consistent, drop down a ias or fcr breakpoint or simply sacrifice total health and then damage difference is already even out... Also, you should mention a nice 2/20 ammu if they can afford, and a dungo ends up at less res and dr% compared to coa, but you nearly maintain damage, without the fcr ammu you May sacrifice soj or bk for fcr ring, or you swap maras with a rather cheap 2/10fcr ammu with adds. :)

[@damian02161986]

Man d2 dueling is so boring and lame. Maybe melee is still okayish but caster vs caster is just meh

[@ablackperson3230]

I called it yesterday! Huge lol

[@jprec5174]

Kinda sad that ww barbs are the worst class/build in the game now

[@JobyD2]

Nice video bud ! Also gz on 37k subs

[@benjionetwo]

Just some online scrub gear. You know Perf hoto, +45 s targe spirit, 2soc coa double ber'd. All the life skiller GCS. Fuck me.. lol.

[@Coooley]

Wicked scrub, Bub! haha

[@jordanlewis4308]

Don’t get bitter just get better

[@petertao7195]

Hey Cooley, want to discuss about MAGE build, I have an idea about using TEARHAUNCH(+2vigor/5str/5dex/10allres) as alternative boots, mainly to save 3 skill points for defensive tree, also obtain vigor for vigor/charge. I self tested, that we can max out hammer and bless aim, then devote 3 additional points into concentration, In the end, this build will boost our hammer damage by about 250-350. Just want to share with you and see if anyone give any thought about this item in particular

[@BitBam]

never was a fan of conviction in pvp, people just run away till it falls off so they can try to get to you before it 'ticks'

[@antonsundin2974]

I think FoH with the changes are gonna be straight up better than hammers for both pvm and pvp. You also have the option of using holy shock aura instead of conviction which can be great in certain circumstances if you also max out it's synergies. I managed to get the aura ticks to 1-3k damage (not counting the proximity changes) while also having 6k FoH, 125 FCR, 150-155 uncapped ress in hell and 300MF just by playing around in an online calculator. The "secret" is using a 5os scepter with +3 to holy shock and FoH socketed with lightning facets. I used offensive aura skillers instead of combat skillers in my theorycraft since i thought that a 6k FoH would be more than enough for p1, with combat skillers instead the aura does 1-2300 damage and FoH does 7.6k dmg. You need to run infinity on your merc if you plan to use holyshock as your main aura in pvm though, but i honestly think the tradeoff is worth it when your aura is killing monsters in 2-3 pulses on p1. Will be interesting to see what the pvp communities come up with and if they are able to make use of holy shock in some cases or if conviction ends up always being better in pvp settings. EDIT: good point about overstacking resistances in pvp but it should be pretty difficult to overstack a 150 conviction and another 50 from gear if you run a 5os wep and a griffon with facets.

[@chichodormi4732]

NATS U NUTS

[@tylerm8145]

I think you're right, but only in some situations. Foh obviously gets the advantage in demon and undead heavy areas, but even then spinning up a patch of hammers will empty a room about as fast as a few fohs and their holy bolts. Pick your poison I guess - autoaim and melt demons/undead, or ruin everything besides the handful of magic immunes. Some people hate the feel of hammers so there's that too.

[@antonsundin2974]

@@tylerm8145 Yeah there's certainly cases where hammers are still king, if you're doing Baal runs for example i think hammers are obviously better as you can preemptively cast a bunch of them between waves.

[@jotacekm]

is conviction also capped at -150% (lvl 25) in pvp?

[@einfachiggi]

lvl94: 3Conv - 17BH - max Synergy1 - 11 Synergy2 (i maxed blessed for the passive AR% to hit a bit better on zon etc) xD

[@tomaszpawlik5091]

Can good magic sceptre with+6skills and FCR replace HOTO?

[@Coooley]

If you're going for pure damage, I would imagine that could be an option (especially if it has Conviction). Hoto's just sooo good.

[@ItsTheJits_]

Boutta put together a mage griswold paladin for the lulz this helped a lot!

[@IAmFromTheForest]

Lol the death react, gg

[@QuintinMassey]

7:18 oh she caught you… and put her big blue balls on top of you 🤣

[@matthewbellardine6834]

@coooley I made a magedin that i want to show you in game!

[@henryChen01]

tried this build...always get pwn by druid...>

[@Maty514]

completly agree. conviction is only good to punish noobs. great video and breakdown ^_^ can't wait to smash him

[@alexanderl7831]

YO tearhaunces dont work to add dmg to hammers

[@TheMaxskarbnik]

How do you cast vigor and charge at the same time?

[@Bugeaters]

It got a buff if you play defensive, but smite+foh+stomp+hammer won't work anymore :(

[@xiaoshen8044]

Why not? Because of the fhr change?

[@Bugeaters]

@@xiaoshen8044 yep, exactly. The smite will trigger fhr, and then the foh won't so they can just tele away

[@BAVtoC]

Okay i tried a CTA FOH, and i mostly still just use regular FOH on hammer/hoto side for namelocking (it seals massive to LOW dmg most times without conv!) instead weapon swap. i feel like the pressing W - do a quick or 2-5 FOHs - press W again for tele Hammer etc, its way to slow sometimes bugged and W didnt work, and the Aura takes kinda 2 seconds till it apply on the enemie, so its not even worth to use it, only reason to punish when u stand on the bridge ofc, thats a bit nice when u see they run stash for kinda now reason :P

[@sabastianevans9517]

I still to this day enjoy the gris foh pally for pubs hahaha surprisingly good for pubs when a random hdin hostiles ur group or something hell even a mosaic sin. I always keep 3x sets one with all bers, one with all ums, one with all 5/5 facets an mix an match depending on who ur facing.

[@VileOCE]

coooley please answer me this if you can as I'm following this guide. Are you hitting max block (75%) with only a ravenfrost as added dex to your base points? Do you use other items to bump dex higher to hit 75% with one point into HS or when you say "max block" are you meaning "above low block" LMK brother

[@benlupkin8659]

The dog fight 🤣🤣

[@fatso792]

all in all u got a bad hammerdin and a bad foher in one toon... u either win by pur luck someone running in ur hammer or ur just outskill your opponent... thats imo.. nice video tho

[@dubson965]

great video. quick question: what will be better in patch 2.4 in your opinion, MageDin or MurderDin ?

[@Destroymaster100]

how do you come up with these builds? people work together to figure something good out? maybe going to hero editor to test things out?

[@gaborod87]

How do You only need 79 dex yo max block? I need 116 whit bo+holy shield in a sacred targe

[@BAVtoC]

you use Coa AND Dungo sometimes for the 50%dr? or u think coa berber + eni is enough

[@justinhildebrand1515]

Its ok dont worry the 8k guided bowazon's will just spam the moor with them now 😂😂

[@aba192]

Someone tell me im an old D2 veteran… sis they take away paladin charge desynch?

[@TheSwaGGerFM]

so will sorb now be GM in DFC? with all these bonkers FoH / Light sentry changes?

[@cw48494]

I still prefer a proper V/T (not t/v) over mage for pvp, but they're all fun builds.

[@Strefan11k]

If the paladin's face is changed in 2.4, I don't play this game. Cheers

[@ALL41BJJ]

I literally searched your whole youtube channel a few days ago to find this build. Happy to see you making a video on it now!

[@olivierlanglois3214]

You should try Elden Ring for PVP. More challenger then this

[@Odinoian]

Wow, this is gonna turn the scene around. I'm both excited and scared :D

[@BrokenPineapple]

Mage and vindicator are awesome. Harder to build all 3 together ;p

[@yousefibrahim4729]

Very very very good video! Clear what to do and why to stats the skills the way you did

[@xlatheblackdragon705]

D2 is all a out casters.. hammerdin light sorc necro and now this

[@Doinkdeven]

I made this build.. level 92 now and loving it!!!

[@ivangeorgiev6916]

5-faceted war scepter with 3 foh 3 bh 1 conviction is OP

[@cbreezy2449]

Is aware of WW glitch but won’t fix ww? Okkkkk

[@ImVeryBrad]

I'm going to have to buy D2R soon. Still haven't played it yet 😆

[@Coooley]

STILL!? Yeah, man.... Let's go!

[@r_i_p-mf2830]

Lmao i had one of these 17 years ago. But was very expensive

[@stivonpelno7981]

no max block ?

[@silentvalue]

Frostburns could be a decent option to gain extra mana

[@devonpulley1689]

maximize

[@JJV7243]

Any reason you don't use Trang's glove isntead of magefist? I think the extra cold resistances > the mana regen?

[@Coooley]

Yeah, you wear them vs Cold Sorcs. Otherwise, Mana Regen >

[@Pophet84]

hmm i wonder. im not a native english speaker. but isnt the last "e" in bless"e"d silent? i always pronounced it as "blessed".

[@Frilleon]

It is generally silent, but some people pronounce the E if they are trying to do a more medieval pronunciation

[@TopSecretGG]

What a Vicious build!

[@TheCbot88]

I don’t like to use concentration with hammers cause I’m just on players one all the time I just keep it on teleport

[@Enigma793]

You're only doing 20% of the damage that you could do by not using Conc. Just switch to the aura when you cast hammers then regrab the lock with tele. Not difficult.

[@bradysimpson]

That skill point distro is next level.

[@TaylorJohnson1020]

Holy bolt does 15% dmg per lvl not 7 why use the shock aura synergy?

[@Ex0rz]

Because holy bolt increases the holy bolt damage and shock aura increases the lightning damage of FoH. Holy bolt doesnt work in pvp afaik, so the damage bonus to it is useless.

[@theProtocaster]

You put 2 bears in a crown?

[@Sistik123]

Rather use Trang gloves.

[@Nah_Bohdi]

Isnt he technically a Cleric?

[@GO-nf5bp]

Fhr no needed in the new patch.

[@shayjenkins7294]

Oh look another Polly buff

[@shawmeck9323]

@7:23 how did the sorc cast Blizzard when the player had no visual ground of where you were standing? You where at least two screens away. Is that some kind of trick?

[@Coooley]

In retrospect, I think he grabbed my name when I was close to him. Could have also been a C/T cast

[@shawmeck9323]

@@Coooley I have no idea what you're talking about. There's so much I need to learn about PvP techniques😄

[@PeacePham1991]

Why do you max Vigor instead of putting points in Concentration or other synergy? You said it's for moving faster but you can always use Charge to do that

[@UnderworldGrim]

hammer dmg

[@Ex0rz]

Vigor also increases hammer damage. The thing with concentration is that it only works when its active, whilst vigor gives a passive bonus to hammer damage. You are going to need your teleport anyway, so you cant really keep concentration active.

[@doctorlexington517]

Love the new icon!

[@nick1550dk]

yo why not tranq glove for cr overstack?

[@timothybraun3796]

You throw them on vs cold sorcs. Otherwise mana regen is more valuable.

[@Happycamper10170]

Really cool build

[@mahada9546]

2.4 out yet?

[@Binanceuser12333]

Iso gm duels

[@jedgurner1]

Is bless-ed even a word?? Blessed blest??

[@Coooley]

"Blessed can be an adjective meaning holy, in which case it is pronounced with two syllables" You muh fuckiz need to Google shit before runnin' your mouth in the comments lol

[@chichodormi4732]

NUTS COOLEY

[@traveller2378]

PvM = PvE?

[@Mozgodrobil]

yes, Player vs monsters/Player vs environment

[@willliftsweights9870]

How do you think the old v/t will do in the new patch (smite/foh)

[@Coooley]

Very well!

[@LiquidToolExperiment]

It won’t be nearly as good with the hit recovery changes. Mage > v/t in 2.4 Converted mine to mage weeks ago.

[@xTatsumix]

TOO BROKENNN

[@peigen7151]

First

[@Enigma793]

Would like to see that Mara's changed out to an fcr ammy and Bloodfist on the gloves. Wouldn't even need to be an expensive one since you would only be lacking 5 fcr to hit 125 with your Griffon's setup. Bloodfist would allow you to hit 86 fhr with only one fhr sc and would also give a nice life boost. Awesome video as always man. :)

[@ozzie6268]

How does this fare in PvM?

[@Coooley]

It can handle some of the weaknesses of a pure FoH din, but I'd say it's more made for PvP. In PvM, you'd likely choose one or the other for farming purposes.

[@ozzie6268]

@@Coooley oh yeah I get that going eithet pure hammer or FoH would be the ideal play, but if I were to spec into both just for fun's sake, would it hold up okay?

[@Coooley]

@@ozzie6268 yeah it should be just fine on players 1-3

[@shawmeck9323]

19 hard points into Hammers: Nerd level 100%! I love this guy, Hahaha.

[@r_i_p-mf2830]

Should of made that hoto out of a pally mace with plus skills tho

[@Coooley]

You can't.

[@ichiwo1526]

pvp looks so boring

[@jordanlewis4308]

Bro you get so much adrenaline from pvp in this game. It’s kept me hooked for 2 decades

[@LiquidToolExperiment]

Yeah pvm is so much more exhilarating…

[@MarcusAM]

I’m curious to hear your perspective, Ichiwo. From my experience as a pvper, there is no npc- whether it be boss or area, that is more difficult than another person playing their character. The opponent adapts and learns to your stay style that forces you to evolve as a player. It’s the frustration of losing and the satisfaction of overcoming that keeps pvp feeling fresh. What specific part(s) of pvm keep you coming back?

[@BrianCheng24]

It's only boring if youre young and you never experienced Diablo 2 LOD in its glory days.

[@Frilleon]

It’s a lot harder than it looks ichiwo. Go fight with some of us veterans and you’ll see how fast it really is

[@TheSpargasm]

Making one on ladder s4