The MAGIC Downswing Move Everyone Needs ⬇️🏌️‍♂️

[@jackgarland4080]

OMG!! Watched these videos all morning. Did practice swings in front of the mirror, and then went to the range. Forced myself to make good backswing and begin falling forward when the club was parallel to ground about halfway through the backswing. Amazing ball striking!! Love the sound of the club striking the ball before the ground. Wow. Thanks. It’s counterintuitive but wow!

[@hannesreinhardt1399]

Little red book just great. A very wise man, who very successfully worked with many top pros, shares his wisdoem and thoughts of a good swing based on feelings. And that's the challenge still to date, despite all the numbers (trackman) and angles (video): give the students a feel for doing the right things. And that's a very individual task.

[@aaronconsaul6645]

This video caught my attention about 3 months ago: "THE MAGIC MOVE" started me watching you guys and alot alot alot of garbage statements other coaches say was proven to be wrong or at least not relevant to success in the golf swing. Making simple changes, along with understanding the reason for the magic move has simplified my swing and i have made major improvements (i have watched just about all of you vids). My carry avg has increased by about 10+ % in all clubs, my smash factor has increased by and average of .06, I am making better contact and compressing the ball more consistently and more helpful than all that!!! i'm more accurate and predictable with my irons and woods (metal). Your perspective on golf and blending athleticism with the scientific performance of proven results (pros swings) is invaluable !!!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Those are awesome improvements there! Great job👊

[@wendellkristofak642]

Harvey always talked about the left heel coming up with this drill. For us old guys lifting the heel minimizes strain on the back and promotes more turn. Great video.

[@industrialpalletworx3548]

Outstanding!!! Thanks for reminding me of this. This was a drill that I was taught moons ago and completely forgot about. It made such a huge difference in my swing years ago. Now I have something to practice over the winter. Its great to do in front of a mirror with no club just to get the feeling down. I love mirror work. My wife and kids will get mad at me when I'm doing it out shopping with them. I don't care. Its my passion.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

High Oktane Kustoms love it 😊 there’s nothing new in the golf swing

[@industrialpalletworx3548]

@@AthleticMotionGolf that's for sure. My favorite book is Ben Hogans' 5 lessons book. I love Dave Pelz books too. The short game bible and the putting bible. Excellent reads with tons of valuable information

[@thomasfraser9072]

At 72 I share this passion of golf as well. My wife just don't get it. I guess I gotta give her some thoughts as well. 😀

[@quantumpotential7639]

You make pallets? I love wood pallettes. I've begun a whole new sideline working with pine pallets. I wanna build the equivalent of the Crystal Palace using these amazing pieces of handy work, utilizing all of the pallets and that which rests on them warranting a fork lift and an anti gravity crane to place it. When it's finished, I wanna stand on the apex of the Pallet Palace and tee up a golf ball and let her rip. Driving it over the trees and onto the dance floor where John Travolta is doing a remake of Saturday Night Fever, disco ball shattered into smitherines when my Top Flight Orange Molitar is the result of having made the magic move.

[@JJTrades_X]

You guys have the best golf education content out there

[@76MUTiger]

This video pairs well with the Pros vs. Ams Right Arm Movement video. At first I thought these two vids were saying different things, but at 6:00 you cleared it up for me and helped me see how the two vids are two sides of the same coin.

[@johnmule9419]

Great explanation and description of the "pump drill". Back in the 70s, I used to watch a young Tom Watson a lot. Before he hit every practice\ warm-up shot he did the pump drill. On the 3rd or 4th pump he hit it pure every time. I now know why he was a believer in it. Thanks and keep sharing the great information.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Great info there, John. I wasn't aware that TW did that drill, but makes perfect sense.

[@chrismessier3496]

Admittedly I have only seen a few of your videos so maybe I simply need to watch more (just discovered your channel). I’d like to see Mike do some of the drills you demonstrate since my athletic prowess is more similar to his.

[@paulpierce3182]

I've practiced this move for hours during the quarantine, now on the course no more over the top, most drives, and irons are longer and straight. so unbelievably happy with my game!!!!!!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Great work making the most of that practice time👏

[@Yerbluesful]

Truly addicted to this channel! Such amazing info. One of the only channels I trust for info

[@klibs8]

This is a great demonstration. After working on getting more hip rotation in my swing I was struggling with only being able to swing out to in and only hitting fades and slices. I couldn't draw the ball to save my life. Earlier timing of lowering the arms very early in the downswing completely fixed this for me. I think that because I was rotating without moving my arms down it was moving my arms in front of my body too much from where I couldn't possibly hit an in to out path.

[@johndunsmore430]

Tried a different version of the pump drill before so i tried this.i took only a 7 iron to the range for a week.started with chips 50/75 yards, by end of week i developed a controlled swing .i knew 90 per cent wich way ball would move.before i was driving right elbow and couldnt close face consistently enough.long way to go but my confidence in this drill has got me big improvements .even the range pto has given me a nod and said good good job. Thanks guys

[@robcorrell6760]

My friend explained it that your swing really starts not at the top but after you drop your club. When i dropped the club a little it made me shift to the left and the power is now out front of the ball. Before this I was starting my swing fast from the top. Not now and my game has changed. This is a great video of the secret of how to really improve.

[@stevenmcc6052]

If I lived in the US I would round to you guys for a lesson as quick as that. Your knowledge, insight and passion is refreshing. No ego just pure help with rapier like clarity. Inspirational.

[@FratBoyFishing]

In a matter of a few months, I went from hitting my 7iron 150 yards to 180 yards after doing this drill routinely. It Truly is magic.

[@FratBoyFishing]

@MeandMyStaffy not crap at all, it's the truth

[@A.Man..]

Yup! Hidden effortless power, even my slow practice swings send it. Such an awkward feeling to adapt to, but amazing. I'm definitely not hitting my 7 180. But my terrible shots aren't terrible no more

[@devin119]

This move has done WONDERS for my swing. My consistency has gone up so much. For the first time in over a year I broke 80. Thank you guys!

[@deanda5150]

I played with a 2-handicap player this past Saturday. WOW?! I carry a GHIN 13.8 handicap and I have to say its night and day his swing and mine. The main difference? IMO - His speed and position at impact. The key link? His rotation and speed through impact. His incredible accuracy was impressive. His drives dead straight - 270 plus yards. His Irons pinpoint accuracy. Each swing (every club used) looked identical. The swing was compact and efficient. The key to his consistency from what I saw playing side by side - for 18 holes? His ability to lower his right arm / elbow just enough to whip the club on plane while clearing his hips with lightning speed. I was inspired and now seeing this vid - the light bulb has come on. I will now practice the "magic move" until I can repeat it without thinking. I need to do what that 2 handicapper did last weekend. Inspired!

[@roryg54]

Very helpful tip (thank you Harvey 😀), especially for us older guys. Combined with your video where you explain that the time difference between any of the moves is approaching zero, this video is saving my back and producing solid contact. Slow swingers trying to get faster, older golfers, seriously take note. If you move everything close to simultaneously, you vastly reduce the torque that can hurt you. You can literally separate ribs by swinging too hard.

[@patrickolson4962]

THANK YOU!!! SHOT 75 Yesterday by implementing your step toward target during backswing drill. GAMECHANGER!! Kept feeling like I was falling towards the target and my ball was flying better than ever! Now I just need to learn how to PUTT!!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

wow great!!!!

[@Anjuuydhjjiskjhyys]

Lowering right arm respect to the left arm also shallow the club as well. I tried it today and it really put the club in the slot like a charm.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Absolutely👊

[@555Trout]

I remember a Master's win late in Crenshaw's career that came out of nowhere. Harvey, Ben's teacher since childhood, had passed shortly before. Ben was very emotional and it was pretty clear Harvey was on the bag. ☺️

[@quantumpotential7639]

I remember that Crenshaw win. His putting was silky smooth guided by the gossamer wings of Harveys spirit that special week in Augusta. His second Masters Win, ten years after his first. That's no easy feat. But he did it. Thanks to the Harvey Pennick Magic stick.

[@555Trout]

@@quantumpotential7639 😊

[@jg1316]

Had one of those days on the course where I was wondering what in the world I was doing with my life practicing all this golf and if all my effort was for not. Your video gave me hope and it will be back out there tomorrow. Hope to visit you in the near future for some lessons once I close a few more deals. Thanks for the videos in the meantime, they make all the difference.

[@gustavospagnolo174]

James C you are not alone!!! Many times I ask myself :”what the hell am I doing here?!!!” But then it comes THAT shot that goes great and makes you come back again! Don’t lose hope! Golf greetings from Argentina!

[@tonyprzygienda1257]

@@gustavospagnolo174 what's the saying, golf is like a perfect mistress (no disrespect to all the great lady golfers out there), it frustrates you until walk away and then it gives you just enough to make you turn around and come back ;-) Golf is all about the odd day you go out the range and e'ry ball is kissing the middle of your irons efortlessly. The more you train the more of those seem to happen. Rest needs simply to be learned from and forgotten quickly.

[@jeffp2001]

I don’t want to give you to much credit cause I go thru tips and drills like crazy but this could be the one. I’ve been steep and hanging back play awful this season just played 9 with good results. Good explanation I never kept the rt arm long doing this drill game changer. Thx

[@gordonhamnett1289]

Great stuff! Shawn's qualifying comment at 2.53 into this clip, introducing this move, is critically important in being able to learn it. It is the "a priori" from my "student" perspective. "Let's say you have the backswing where it needs to be....". Thank you Shawn and Mike!

[@larrymorgan9486]

Glad I shared that on the last video,keep up the good work

[@craigluhr7243]

I had the opportunity to meet Mr. Harvey Penick in Austin many years ago. He was giving a clinic at Golfsmith from his wheelchair. The man was sharp as a tack even in his late age.

[@Jdeneik]

Excellent advice! Ernie Els, with his big body is a text book example. He demonstrates this dropping of the elbow to his side. In his book he says it’s the very first move in the golf swing for him.

[@jeffstreet7763]

One are the best videos I've seen. It reinforces what I've been trying to do for the last few months. If you do enough research you will find this is one of, if not the most critical part of having a good golf swing. Very hard to do consistently and right for me though.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Keep at it, Jeff, it's worth the effort👊

[@maranathahess4894]

I somehow sense a contradiction in your teaching method. The golf happens in less than a second I have to think about lowering the left elbow....

[@janclaussen2504]

Oh i am coming back to the roots after 45 Years Golf Bravo

[@rb1smitty]

Hey Guys, Rodney from North Carolina. I recently found your content and now think its the only resource I need to dig a little deeper in to the endless sea of advice to fix this or that. I must say I'm a little confused about the transition (or move down) . I watch the the pump drill and then watched this and they seem to contradict each other. In the analysis of 3D imaging it appears and you said the the right (or trail arm) was moving away at straightening at top of downswing. In the Penick drill you show the right elbow moving down (not away). Please help me understand this move better. thanks, Rod

[@otisregatoni617]

Good recap-kept simple. That’s why the drill is timeless.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

yessir

[@desean3402]

Possibly the best golf book of all time. The little red book is such a classic read.

[@2risquejunior538]

Courney Hallcy also full of great little stories as well as golf instruction.

[@desean3402]

2risque Junior definitely my favorite as a coach. Just incredible book

[@dwaynedavis5257]

Awesome! Thanks guys. Thank you Mr. Penick.

[@jameswarner8462]

This video literally changed my golf life. I got intimate results the first time use what i learned. Totally improved my iron shots. I played 3 times now still good. Thank You for the video. Question. How does this tie in to the Driver? Jim W.

[@braydenolenak-hobbs19]

same way it does to your irons except you dont want to move through the ball with a driver you want to stay over the ball

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

same feel with dirver but your head and upper body will be tilted back a bit more

[@jeffgriffin5550]

I love that drill and I've been using it for years. I also have the green and red book from Harvey Penick. Great stuff, love your videos.

[@76MUTiger]

Great stuff, guys! Thanks! QUESTION: At 8:20 Shaun shows what happens after the Pennick drill... how the hips turn and the club is delivered to impact. How do the hips turn? Do they pivot around the center of the pelvis? Around the left hip socket (so that the left hip stays stationary and the right hip comes swinging around)? Or, less likely, around the right hip socket and the left hip goes swinging back away from the target?

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

76MUTiger great question! We have a video in the works right that will answer your question in detail, but for the timing being, the short answer is center of pelvis👍

[@douggraham7337]

You guys are great. Have struggled with my swing for decades and at my best was a 10 handicap though always in and out of feeling good with the swing. As an analytical junkie I so appreciate your really clear analysis and modeling. You give me hope.... many thanks!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

thanks for the kind words :)

[@timothypollock8358]

This move really is magic and you guys have great stuff. I just want to mention that when the practice move is being demonstrated that his head is moving forwards (targetward) but not in the particular rep where he actually strikes the ball which is the way that it should be done. It would be very important to note for less accomplished golfers that the head never moves forward in great ball strikers before the ball is actually struck unless it has moved backwards in the backswing. If the head moves forwards during the early downswing when it never went backwards in the backswing then it would have to snap backwards before impact which would be very difficult and would slow down the swing. I know that you guys know this and that the head movement was unintentional for emphasis, but I thought that it might confuse certain golfers. Since there is always rotation during this "magic move", more of the weight ends up forward of center because the lead side of the body moves back towards it's original address position. So the trick is to take advantage of this and transfer the weight without moving the head forwards which creates a very powerful center for rotation for the rest of the swing.

[@Rick9482]

This is exactly what i needed! Another great video, thank you.

[@sportssorts4011]

Phenomenal drill and explanation on how to get the elbow tucked in with the rotation of the body. I am so glad you stumbled upon the book again so I can now have this drill in my arsenal.

[@alanwilliams6449]

An absolute necessity in the downswing. Brilliantly explained as always. Keep up the excellent instruction videos. An unbeatable duo. Thanks

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

thanks so much

[@emncaity]

Lots of good here as always, but one thing I'd add: Harvey was adamant that the move of the right elbow (really an undisturbed movement of both arms and club, when you see it) was definitely to be made with driving or "rotating" the upper body at all. It's probably true that there's always going to be some small amount of rotation early in the downswing, but he was getting at the need to avoid dominating the downswing with the shoulders, especially early on. It's a direct link to John Jacobs' insistence that the most significant in-swing factor that a good player has to work out is the relationship between the arms-and-club swinging and the turning of the shoulders and torso. Obviously both of those categories of elements have to work, but each player has to work out the feel for what it's like for the arms to swing from one side of the body to the other while the hinges themselves are moving. But anyway...it was vital to the "magic move" concept that the elbow was to be "returned to the side" while nothing else in particular other than the targetward bump of weight was happening. My daughter really copped onto this feel at one point in her early development as a player when, in answer to a question about what the hands should be doing at the start of the downswing, I said "nothing at all." It's like the light bulb went on, and at 14 she was absolutely popping it out there. In fact, we used a version of the MM earlier, when she was a real star in softball. She had her best hitting days when she really hooked into the feel of starting toward the pitched ball with the trail elbow down and leading. It put her on that Ted Williams slightly-ascending plane, and skinny girl hit it a helluva long way. ;-)

[@toddlittle926]

A1 lesson as always... patience to let the arms drop or fall initially from the top of a backswing to a shallowing plane is challenging for most golfers. I find it has to be groved repetedly for consistency.

[@AidanRobertsInnit]

I knew about starting with the arm movement but was always confused about when to start the hip shift and rotation, looking forward to working this drill!

[@julescoleman5438]

I couldn't agree more. I think the greatest disservice to the golf swing development that Ben Hogan ever did was to refer to the so-called 'free ride'. That is, the lowering the arms/hands, trail elbow (whatever way one chooses to describe it) as a 'result' of the shift to the left and initial rotation in transition. There's no such thing. you can move to the left and rotate with your arms going virtually nowhere. What happened in Hogan's case (my supposition) is that he practiced this coordinated move so often that it became second nature and so he no longer had to intentionally move his arm/handle, elbow down); it just happened. But it was trained to do so; it did not occur as an unavoidable response of pressure shift and rotation. How many golfers do you see who have expected this to happen naturally with their hands 6 inches or so outside their trail leg at delivery position? Almost all of my students who stall so that their arms catch up with their body, do so precisely because they do not intentionally work to link the left side pressure shift and modest rotation in transition with the reconnection of the trail arm to the body. The teacher I worked with on my own game who emphasized this move more than any other -- though without reference to Pennick, and as part of an overall distinctive approach to the full swing was Mac O'Grady. People pick out a lot of things as distinctive of O'Grady's teaching in the MORAD system, but there is nothing more basic then the transition which has two parts: moving the two centers (sternum and mid pelvis) forward a couple of inches while reconnecting the pressure points between trail arm and right side; and the bulk of the body rotation comes after that.

[@Jackisback31645426]

You said: "How many golfers do you see who have expected this to happen naturally with their hands 6 inches or so outside their trail leg at delivery position?" You are talking about me, here, as I have struggled with the full swing for the past 40 years. It shows up quite obviously on slow motion video. The fact is that you can "lag" things way too much, even if your overall swing motion is in the proper sequence. I have finally just started to fix it by watching this KZbin Channel along with Russell Heritage's channel.

[@robsaxepga]

Great explanation guys...nice taking away the myths. Maintaining that right arm width is CRITICAL. Nice!!

[@77777771955]

Glad to see you guys are doing so well. Started following you at least a few years ago when you only had roughly 30K subscribers. Now I see you have gone over 100K. Love your use of gears to give scientific analysis. Keep up the good work.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

thank you!

[@douglaskim6611]

Oh my God! Guys, thanks very much. I read this book many times but I always tried to drive to body not lowering. Now I know what "lowering " means.

[@jasontroutman9845]

Thanks for the clarity of how the elbow drops. I have the little red book and couldn’t find that detail in it. I tried it in the course yesterday and it worked wonderful.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

great!

[@terryt9153]

Goodness gracious, you guys have explained this in the most simplest way! I have been hunting for this forever!, You have changed my swing completely, thank you so much!!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

glad it helped!!

[@drewagardner]

Excellent video! Much more power and freedom in my swing when I do the "magic move."Now I'm going to dust off my Little Red Book. Probably should read it once a year.

[@reedramlow101]

Disciples of Harvey always welcome. Thanks for the magic move review and drill.

[@BogeyBrothas]

Added to my best golf lessons playlist , everyone should check it out if they want to improve

[@pm1a]

Lovely drill. My only issue is the death move (esp. with driver) of letting your head drift towards the target in transition. Very easy to do if you're not careful. I'd personally add the thought of keeping your head back as your left knee moves counterclockwise and hands drop.

[@markdoran7510]

Just picked up on this lesson today & is great as is all your lesson plans. Difficulty i have is hip swivel / rotation. Had hip replacement 4 years ago, play off 8 but will practice your lesson, thought i heard the word 'hundreds' used!! 😭

[@steviewonder2492]

This channel is absolute 🔥 🔥 🔥

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Stefan Koch 🙏🏻💯

[@darioaquino9399]

Mr.Penick prduces two great players Tom Kite and Ben Crenshaw.His model students.simple, easy and practical ideas to follow.thanks

[@jXw514BiIO4MjhQ]

In your recent video about firing the hips, you mentioned that during the downswing, the right elbow should come close to the side of the body. When practicing the pump drill, would it be okay to incorporate more hip turn into the practice so that the arm stays closer to the side as it comes down?

[@jeffreyanderson5106]

You need to do a video adding this with left shoulder abduction angle. Thanks guys

[@Theoneandonly-JM]

Guys I’ve used this in practice and on the course recently to find a huge improvement in my game - many thanks for the great content. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Excellent

[@timdoe3913]

Great stuff..Thank you.

[@RobertMoore-ll1cr]

Excellent drill. Bob from Myrtle Beach, SC. Thanks.

[@JoseMoreno-dt5jc]

Thank you for all your wonderful tips. You stress weight shift, but what part of your lead legs starts andfeels the most weight? The ball, heel, toes? Thanks

[@thomasfraser9072]

Jose Moreno Harvey said you must step down on your lead foot as you activate his magic move with your trail elbow

[@pennjacksonjr.1424]

Ball

[@78tag]

I love it when I watch one of these tips and it actually goes in the same direction my mind is headed. I can't say I have it but this confirms that I am working on the right stuff and that drill will be helpful - I am a great fan of Harvey's ideas. I think Crenshaw would have something to say about that too. THANKS :)

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Great minds😊

[@MrLeftyno1]

Great video and information for me do do this my arms have to stay super relaxed so they can drop, as when their tense its just not going to happen, Sergio Garcia does this so well.

[@garyrae5413]

Fantastic stuff,I'll be trying this now! Many thanks from England

[@donmorrison9498]

I really like this classic lesson!

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

thanks!

[@uspatriot4261]

Love your channel, you two guys are awesome !

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Thank you for watching!🙏

[@jasonfromthebay6282]

Great video and explanation! Thanks guys ⛳🏌️‍♂️🌟

[@sungpark7806]

Best lesson ever for me!

[@justjames1111]

Another great video guys. Interesting Mike when you say 'there's nothing new in golf', I'd agree with that, it just seems to be the same old things just wrapped up differently. With regards the idea of practicing the 'pump drill', can I ask, as this is an example of an 'internally focused' drill i.e paying attention to a body part. How do you think this works compared to an 'externally focused' drill i.e just feeling where the club is in space and letting your body react naturally to this as suggested by the Canadian coach Ron Sisson?

[@thomasfraser9072]

Hi Just James: activating your magic trail elbow at the top transition of your downswing swing in the same manner as a quarterback throws a football indeed does allow all your body parts to come together magically in all your golf swings. This one swing thought has changed my game forever. Give it a try. Hope it changes yours as well

[@alancarlyon3928]

Hi, should we golfer PULL with the left side on the downswing/follow through, or should we PUSH with the right? Your theory looks great, but no advice in the transition?

[@unstoppabletrainer1690]

I have 2 broken arms, so they can’t straighten out. I continue to golf and determined to figure out how to swing. This tip changed my life!!!!!!!!!

[@bjmgolf3651]

Awesome video and great point! I think keeping that space consistently in the angle of the right arm is key and I took that as an excellent takeaway. I think Henrik Stenson might do this best with maintaining the angle of the right arm. Thanks Guys !

[@mattcaplis3045]

Would this be the same for any club? E.g. the driver?

[@libsrcrazy9634]

Awesome video guys. Thank you

[@griff25756]

Thanks for the content, tips have been fantastic. Would love if you could do something around tempo and how to maintain swing rythm and getting it back in round when start swinging too hard. Cheers.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

I always think of tempo as being the feel we have for the tangible timing of the swing. That's one of the reasons we talk so much about the importance of when things happen, it goes directly to the tempo of the swing.

[@kenfixler3000]

I’m an ex college baseball player who picked up golf in my early 20’s. Not sure if swinging a bat for all those years ingrained this motion. My first move on the downswing is slightly down but the handle moves toward the ball. My question is if the pump drill helps eliminate the hands from moving toward the ball...what is the next drill to get the club to square-up and arc left along the proper swing path?

[@rickstevens9628]

How about continued external rotation of the right shoulder as you're doing that move? Or, is adding external rotation of the right shoulder is throwing off my downswing?

[@kerrymong99]

Great video tip from the amazing Harvey Pennick.Have not heard of this before.Thanks

[@kwrwerner8017]

Super strong advice. Have already made my iron strokes much better and longer. THANKS. BUT, would you also suggest the "swing / motion" for hybrid clubs, fairway clubs and the driver. Do not dare to try - but think it should work on hybrids and fairways as well. Do you have a "smart move" to start the downhill with the driver? Best regards from Klaus, Denmark

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Glad it's helping! yessir, it is the same move for all the clubs. Check out our recent video on the driver swing specifically👍

[@andersdannstedt6022]

He also did the "And if you play golf, you're my friend", the follow up on the "Little red book", A great book to.

[@johnbouchard4991]

Great video! You guys are great!

[@donaldmorrison2585]

Shaun said rotate at same time shifting. Do you rotate after re-center or at same time? Just to confirm. Thanks and you guys are great.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

The re-centering takes place as you are still rotating in the backswing - closing rotation.

[@donaldmorrison2585]

So you start rotating as you start in downswing from the top...without spinning out?

[@thomasfraser9072]

Donald Morrison try the quarterback throw I speak of at the transitional top of your swing. Your magic trail elbow will get everything moving in sequence during your entire swing. It crazy magic; but I swear you will never need lessons again. Cheers

[@donaldmorrison2585]

@@thomasfraser9072 Can you explain the quarterback throw or point me in the right direction?

[@truongpham6405]

@@donaldmorrison2585 i believe you are supposed to have recentered at the top of the backswing. The magic move is, then, you at the same time do 3 things: SHIFT past center, ROTATE (so left shoulder is down and around) and LOWER the trail arm. Appreciate if Shaun and Mike @Athletic Motion Golf could confirm this understanding. Thank you.

[@travisjaggers2114]

Great video, thx! Just to make sure I’m understanding correctly, it’s a pump down with the arms to parallel, then rotation of the body brings the club through to release and finish?

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

The play-by-play with the arms is the right elbow lowers straight away as it straightens. Both gotta happen. Then the turn brings everything in front like you're used to seeing in good swings.

[@cluelessfishing]

I'm not that long off the tee but I am consistent. What I have the most problem with is taking a divot. Do you have a drill to address this. Would love to see it and maybe a link to download it for future use.

[@skpts]

In all the years you 2 have been doing this videos, what have you changed your minds about. Thanks.

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Good question. We’ve got nearly 40 years of combined experience with 3D and have been doing it long before we started making videos. So since doing videos not much has changed because the data hasn’t changed. But looking way back on the things we were taught and assumed were correct… a number of those things have changed since being able to compare them to measured data.

[@davidfaircloth2628]

Thanks for this reminder of an important fundamental. A question: should my weight be 50/50 at the top? I've been taught to start shifting weight to my front side when my arms reach chest height in the back swing and to shift a majority of my pressure to my front foot at the top. I'll appreciate your comments on this.

[@tonyprzygienda1257]

I also been taught to be already with my weight front when @ the top but a USGA Pro & rebuilt my swing around that (it took 1.5 years @ the range ;-) and like that a lot. Much easier to open hips & detach hips from shoulders for me. And it's a big simplification in the swing IMO since you don't need another "timing just right" with the weight shift. This hand dropping tip is actually very hard to do I find, it's a mixture of making sure the club comes up steep enough, grip stays neutral @ top and the right amount of flattening when dropping while you can't force the club with your hands. What helps me is to think that I want to let the club fall into a "single shoulder plane" to freely swing through the ball (another great AMG video where they compared shoulder work of pros with ams), that seems to put all the variables in the correct place I can really go after the ball.

[@conj1124]

I don't know but if your golf swing sequence is correct this move comes naturally and you don't have to over think it. Thanks for the video.

[@markwalker5523]

Very interesting but I get confused ! In one of your other videos you talk about pros accelerating their hands early . How can you lower the club slowly and accelerate ?

[@bl6369]

Thanks for another great video. Do you think this move can also help you keep your lag? Or not cast.

[@pennjacksonjr.1424]

You can’t cast if your hands and right arm drops where it should. My coach was named Harvey Penick coach of the year

[@MarioMartinez-ff5ph]

This is all that Ben Hogan talked about in his 5 golf fundamentals 40yrs earlier, not trying to take anything away from Harvey, but Ben can be seen on Ed Sullivan, and Shells world of golf back in the late 50s early 60s doing the pump drill

[@chrismayor5147]

You are right, but remember, Harvey was older than Ben Hogan and played with him a lot, before, Hogan wrote his book. It took an age to persuade Harvey to have his " nots" put together, that then formed the Little Red Book.

[@MarioMartinez-ff5ph]

@@chrismayor5147 I don't know too much about Harvey, other than a couple of golf digest articles and 1 youtube video, but if he and mr Hogan were good friends that's good enough for me, since I consider Ben the greatest golfer that ever lived

[@mzrb1]

Been thinking for a while looking at many different magic move videos, and it is more fundamental... is Golf an Impact/Contact or Swing Sport ? Maybe that clarifies where the focus should be ?

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

We see more ams focus on impact and more pros focus on swinging.

[@thomasfraser9072]

Golf is a 'throw sport'. Forget about the ball altogether. We should simply think of the club head being thrown around it's circular path at the transitional start of our downswing. We use our magic trail elbow to start the throwing of the club head in the same manner a quarterback throws his football. Our body will respond on its' own if we allow it to. Cheers

[@mzrb1]

@@thomasfraser9072 Athletic Motion Golf "Athletic Motion Golf 2 days ago There's a number of things that get talked about a lot that don't really happen in the swing.😉" When throwing the Club, obviously optimum velocity should be where club is released... while it should be at ball impact if you are playing Golf. No wonder so many are confused by all this trendy nonsense... where one minute it is throwing a club and next minute using an axe or hammer :) The average Golfer would improve his score significantly; the aim of the game; with a 'Half Swing' and instead focusing on IMPACT... because Golf is an Impact Sport... believe it or not :)

[@thomasfraser9072]

Roland Becker Golf is indeed an impact swing for sure as I use my magic trail elbow to throw the club head along it’s circular path. The club head then impacts the still ball at the bottom of the circular arc where the club head meets the ball. Of course I think of none of this as I swing my club simply using Harvey Penick’s Magic Trail Elbow

[@mzrb1]

@@thomasfraser9072 Exactly :) Ever wondered why almost nobody connects right wrist action with Timing ie. Optimum swing speed at ball impact ?

[@jballoregon]

Hey guys, talk to me about hand location at set up vs hand location at impact? Do you have a video on this topic? I know some guys return on the elbow plane, some on the set up shaft plane. Is there a preference?

[@rhyndman]

Fantastic, guys

[@lucpaquette5031]

excellent episode, think I will purchase the book. Could that move on full swing contribute to adding more club head speed with the driver also? I'm saying that as when I try to add some juice I feel that I'm rushing my arms down to create speed...

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

it can help yes. Arms provide a lot of speed

[@alanburch8499]

Love your content. I was wandering if you do short game at all?

[@AthleticMotionGolf]

Yes were adding more short game content coming soon!

[@alanburch8499]

@@AthleticMotionGolf fantastic. Your content has got me wanting to have a full winter season of practice so I can get back hopefully to where I was. You two work so well together.

[@adl9705]

hi! i like this drill a lot but does it work with i practice the "no hinge'" on the backswing?

[@godonoghue2218]

Great video