The Major Gameplay Differences Between WARNO & Wargame: Red Dragon

[@RazzmannWG]

Quick heads-up: I specifically did not cover Rules of Engagement or Smart Orders because I found it easier to get into the game ignoring them for starters (plus some of them don't work consistently).

[@alexhunt7810]

Can tanks move through forest?

[@blackburn1489]

can you pls show and explain them for those who do not own the game yet and still plays wargame)

[@MickeyMouse-bo6ug]

This is the content we're subbed for! You're so good at highlighting the intricacies of Eugen games. Quality work.

[@sebcrumpet2118]

Coming from Red dragon, I'm excited get my hands on this. I loved Regiments take on the wargames and other rts. I feel like I'll end up playing Warno, Regiments and broken arrow alot

[@Stealth17Gaming]

Great vid! Learned quite a few things. Already had some subscribers asking to make this. I'll send them to watch this video.

[@RazzmannWG]

Appreciate it! Your Introduction video is very good too btw!

[@Stealth17Gaming]

@@RazzmannWG thanks!

[@Nebelkorona]

You really need to start pushing out WARNO tutorials. There's gonna be a huge interest in that. Also updates as Eugen makes changes to the game. Easy content.

[@RazzmannWG]

Not really easy content as they take some time to make haha. Also Stealth17 has already uploaded a short beginner intro: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4CtdJidmZWlhqM

[@ThunderingVipers]

@@RazzmannWG already watched stealth video.. will also watch yours whenever you put out

[@Mr.Bassman]

You really need to stop telling people what they really need to do.

[@leoparddazzling2755]

@@RazzmannWG stealth is a great guy, but we want someone with your experience to tell us more

[@VampiroGaming]

Really good stuff. Did not notice the leader buff, this is ace.

[@DrSQUIRRELBOY12]

Because of the infantry squad changes do squads loose the ability to use weapons if that soldier is killed? So no more 1 man squad with a rifle, machine gun, & rocket launcher?

[@RazzmannWG]

I actually have not tested that yet, good question.

[@vipvip-tf9rw]

No rambo, sad

[@ivvan497]

in SD 1 man can shoot all weapons but with lower RoF

[@lovepeace9727]

I had a US marine squad that survived through hell, killed dozens of enemy infantry, destroyed ~10 different transports, a tank and then they got ambushed by a fucking BMPT. All 15 men were gone, except for one marine. Dude lost his whole squad, but i sent him to got through forrest on attack move and he went on violent rampage against enemy MTLB, logis and skrejets transports, destroyed a Mi-4 recon helicopter and shortly after he died like a hero to napalm plane.

[@tomsoki5738]

I feel like artillery is going to be an absolute must have in the game once the smart orders are made less glitchy

[@Malus131]

Never seen any of your videos before mate, but I've been on the fence about WARNO and seeing this quite nice breakdown of the major features has given me even more to think about and I'm leaning towards getting it while it has money off. Basically my bank account hates you right now!

[@zlobaplays]

Currently the most useful WARNO video. Thank you!

[@programmer1840]

Would be cool to see a 1 year update video!

[@capion5014]

OMG, this is going to reel me in, isnt it?

[@rinopalumbo7192]

vehicles are too fast often do not collide with objects they encounter on their way through them i hope in future updates for this effect ghost

[@joeyanderson2612]

WARNO is great haha! The UI is horrendous but that's the only knock I have and even then you can turn HUD and Icons to 'small' in the settings and its fine. Gameplay wise is feels good. A little bit more campy than SD2 or WGRD but that's fine. I feel like planes could have an increase to the time it takes to reach the map once you call in. Maps are OK, not a fan of the one with the island in the middle but maybe after playing it a bit more it will be OK.

[@garethhughes5745]

Agree however turning the icons to minimal means you cant read the unit names as its too small, just wish you could get a small unit graphic next to the name same as WG

[@joeyanderson2612]

@@garethhughes5745 yes that's true. 'Small' seems to work well enough.

[@diehard2705]

So basically this is the perfect mix of red dragon and steel division?

[@Asethet]

Are dead infantry replaced by logistics resupply? (Wargame or Steel Division style?)

[@RazzmannWG]

Yes, Wargame style.

[@larsl1241]

Just what I needed, coming from SD2 and playing Red Dragon I really missed being able to setup first, and the LoS tool, just those two things alone mean I will never play Wargame Red Dragon again, but buy Warno :)

[@davidcaddell9290]

Tanks having smoke charges? Sombody has been paying attention to the modding community.

[@CapybaraConnoisseur89]

I love these QoL updates, that's why after playing SD2 I can't go back to Wargame anymore it's such a good game. I wish AI wasn't so bad tho it can be annoying at times.

[@gustavosanches3454]

The whole "Divisions" thing is what broke this shit for me. Its like BF2042 removing classes and adding a bunch of "heroes". I want to play as the whole of US or Soviet Union and then customize my god damn army like Red Dragon, is that too much to ask???

[@uncletimo6059]

apparently yes, that is too much to ask

[@flare2000x]

Lots of great mechanics from Steel Division, like the leaders, divisions, veterancy, variety of INF units, etc. I like what I see. Might even get me to play a modern themed game

[@coced]

i feel you, Modern themed RTS tend to be overwhelming, The speed and range and the complexity of each units always breaks me haha

[@FlyxPat]

That manual is spot on 80s.

[@garethhughes5745]

great guide, really good!

[@ThunderingVipers]

I think warno needs to be given more time before comparison can be done. As red dragon is complete and warno is EA

[@RazzmannWG]

This is not meant as a "which game is better" video, but more as to which mechanics work differently etc. It is supposed to make it easier to get into the game. Think of it as a introduction into WARNO.

[@ThunderingVipers]

@@RazzmannWG yes I understand it. And I hope people take it that was instead of thinking which is better

[@RazzmannWG]

I adjusted the title so it is hopefully clearer.

[@susi8198]

EA is just an excuse to milk money out of gullible people.

[@rags417]

I know that English is not the devs first language but I really wish that they would change "Autonomy" to "Loiter Time" and "Trajectory" to "Transit Time"

[@JD-jc5hg]

Or from Autonomy to TOT (Time Over Target) They did it in Red Dragon

[@sigmundboguslavovich6411]

Sooooo, no Wargame-like platoon grouping?

[@filipinorutherford7818]

I think there was something called Companies. You group them and they are called a company. I saw it on KZbin somewhere.

[@ThisOLmaan]

Hope Warno in not exactly same as WG-RD Red Dragon was set up for Ai to cheat if singe player tends to know UR exact Location even if you were heavily concealed in wooded or forested Area's that for me was the Biggest Bug"A" Boo For WG-RD not to mention ur Air battles didn't last to long in flight without getting shotdown precisely was BS and the Launching of a million ground missiles hitting every one of UR units, made me regret buying it. Saw a few videos on Warno same deal but seemed playable hopefully no Ai cheating "Again"? so far seemed ok i don't have it yet not looking to buy yet.

[@Kokoda144]

A little disappoint there is no naval units, it gave the single player side of thing more tactical options

[@JD-jc5hg]

So glad no Naval, naval was just broken & unless they reduce the size of ships (small attack boats, landing crafts etc) Naval was just shit

[@filipinorutherford7818]

@@JD-jc5hg I don't understand why people say Navy was broken? Ships spamming missiles on each other is what Naval Warfare is. It adds to the game and does not take away from the game.

[@JD-jc5hg]

@@filipinorutherford7818 That's why it's fucking shit. You could add so many more factors of realism which just slows down the game play & isn't fun. Air battle is not realistic at all as planes air to air missles have ranges of +40 kms, not a mere 8k. I'll rather some inaccuracies which makes game play more fun than realism, which make it shit. You're telling me with a straight face that you find Naval Warfare in Red Dragon fun?

[@filipinorutherford7818]

@@JD-jc5hg yep no problem with it. I just wish they had more variety of nations ships. I could get an ANZAC fleet together maybe. I have played Command Modern Operations and that is what ships do spam missiles. I believe Navy brings more to the game than takes away.

[@JD-jc5hg]

@@filipinorutherford7818 Fair enough. But large flagships in Wargame isn't just fun, I wish they just had cruisers or smaller size boats

[@TheFarebanksTroll]

Holy fuck it feels like 2015 for me all over again

[@JD-jc5hg]

Question. When you Evac planes, do they go all the way back to your lines or is it like Red Dragon where they evac after 7-9 seconds

[@RazzmannWG]

It is similar to RD.

[@JD-jc5hg]

@@RazzmannWG Ah, thanks for the reply boss

[@maxbarrage9478]

So basically, there is no reason to play this until 2 years from now, when they actually release half the content that's already in Wargame. got it.

[@ecpgieicg]

Thanks for the video. I'll definitely for watch before trying WARNO. Do you know if there is a way to "try" WARNO with a possibility of refund or using something like Gamepass? (Yep your viewer base is spoiled and wants guide on everything.)

[@RazzmannWG]

If you buy it on steam you should be able to refund it within 14 days if you player 2 hours or less. I think that is the only way of "trying" it out.

[@trianoxusxiat4761]

hi, this is my first time playing this sort of game =) i guide for basic deck will be very nice ^^ for me its hard to get in with this game

[@zlobaplays]

You know what i'm doing right now? Starting with empty deck, i add one unit at a time and after each addition i fire up 4v1 skirmish with 3 AI hard teammates against one easiest AI. This way i can mess around with the new units, see what they can do, enjoy them from close pespecrive. Games like this usually last a couple of minutes, 10min max. As i slowly add units and get fsmiliar with them i'm starting to like some units more thsn the other ones. And that's the foundation for making your own custom deck. I'm sure that i wpuld get recked if i went online, but then i could start to adjust to the MP, which is really not beginner friendly i guess. Just be patient and tske it slowly, while having fun at the same time

[@rocketassistedgoat1079]

Make every unit: a jeep. You're welcome.

[@jhnshep]

@3:24 looks like the game regiments suppression gauge?

[@sahhull]

I'll wait for the game to mature for a while.

[@filipinorutherford7818]

Yeagh I am in the same boat. Need to flesh it out with more Divisions and Army General mode.

[@twistednerve0]

How do cluster bombs work? Do they ignore infantry and do no damage, just like in Wargame?

[@RazzmannWG]

yeah

[@badwolf66]

Is the armour ratings the same? I don't think ERA is a working component still.

[@RazzmannWG]

Yes, works like it does in WG.

[@badwolf66]

@@RazzmannWG Ah ok, it is a shame they can't do armour like in the men of War series.

[@justtheaverageone3840]

What about the no FOB's anymore thing?

[@RazzmannWG]

might come back, no guarantees

[@filipinorutherford7818]

I liked the FOB thing. It created supply lines and was a target for SF.

[@dmknght8946]

wargame has better UX quality imo (yeah i know warno's textures are better). the color of warno is like too much blue and my eyes cant take it more than 5 mins. explosion effect looks terrible (like games before 2008). UI design is awful. Wargame might lack of some good features compare to warno but i prefer wargame

[@twplayer1999]

can infantry engage armor and other infantry at the same time now?

[@RazzmannWG]

they could before too, however I dont know about firing MG and AT at the same time

[@FrostRare]

When I leave the zone with cv zone decaps. Is this new update?

[@RazzmannWG]

Intended, not new.

[@crosseightyeight]

I thought SD2 had some very interesting mechanics with leaders, commanders, radios, etc. I hope those carry over to WARNO.

[@kev_sen]

Do elite units get buffs from CV's?

[@RazzmannWG]

nope

[@3dcomrade]

Ngl the ui is a bit uncomfortanle

[@RazzmannWG]

Yeah I hope it gets improved, most notably the unit labels. The latter should already be in the works I think.

[@kyleott7758]

Anyone know when we're going to get the campaign or operations even the tutorial

[@RazzmannWG]

Probably neither before full release. But I don't know for certain.

[@kyleott7758]

@@RazzmannWG do you know an official release date

[@RazzmannWG]

Nope, Eugen hasn't said anything about it.

[@EvansdiAl]

planes move faster or it is just me?

[@emirhanyilmaz944]

Can my PC run this. It runs Red Dragon on Medium settings

[@RazzmannWG]

Gonna be difficult.

[@davidherron3136]

At the moment I think it sucks. Don't enjoy it at all. But it's very early days. I certainly hope we can have slightly bigger decks/divisions. But I felt same about Red dragon. War game ALB is still the best

[@ufoash440]

Yeah I didn't like Red Dragon. Hopeful for this though because I've been dying for a fun Wargame w/ a not dead multiplayer for AGES

[@23strawbale]

Please tell that us that Warno is not like Steel Division!

[@marijandumancic4259]

Warno is like Steel Division.

[@RazzmannWG]

Warno is not like Steel Division. Happy?

[@23strawbale]

@@RazzmannWG if it is not than yes, happy! I absolutely love RD, bought SD and didn't like it, like many ppl.

[@aamwahyudi4022]

I feel unit movement in warno littlebit too fast everthing so fast

[@RazzmannWG]

Stuff like that can easily change throughout early access.

[@zlobaplays]

Eugen confirmed on Steam forums, that the speed will be "toned down"

[@danielcardenaslopez23]

i think that's because he was using the fast forward mode for video

[@infinitybeyond6357]

Can you sell planes?????

[@RazzmannWG]

only basic transports

[@SuarSatya]

price for early access little bit too high, so I watch your video, not buying the game yet.

[@morisco56]

Same

[@princessalana69]

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[@frostbyte8098]

looks like the same game to me.

[@gn019202492000]

Looks the same to me.

[@marijandumancic4259]

DISCRETIONARY BONUS ahoy Maybe hire a native speaker for English language, Eugen?

[@zaynevanday142]

901st 👍

[@userofusers5787]

Warno is so bad, it is impossible to even try to compare those games. its like comparing actual garbage to a polished diamond. Even Steel Division was better, which is funny to say because it is infinitly worse than wargame...

[@ivvan497]

It's literally early access. And SD2 is objectively a better product. But keep whining WG shill

[@HDB112]

Infinitely worse than wargame? L M A O. SD2 has so much more QoL features.

[@filipinorutherford7818]

I did not like how in SD2 they hide the chat area. In WGRD it was clearly seen and there is an active community. SD2 I cannot remember the last time I had a conversation with anyone.

[@ivvan497]

@@filipinorutherford7818 thank god

[@Kesen2003]

Yuck. Divisions

[@RazzmannWG]

It is what it is.

[@flare2000x]

Best improvement IMO. Way more fun to use them in Sd

[@RickyDigits505]

Yea I think so far that's the most disappointing part of Warno...I much prefer being able to fully customize my deck as opposed to only being able to pick templates some Eugene dude liked. It also restricts some fun strategies found in WG that just wouldnt be possible in Warno.

[@itsdarellcuh]

The graphics of Warno look worse than Wargame to me, idk I can't explain it.