The Making Of O.D.

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[@rorybninetythree]

"Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it isn't objectively good" - I think 95% of guitarists these days need to really understand this

[@derek.invyckb]

95% of metal fans need to hear this

[@JordanPool13]

This is why I'm so turned off by metal. It's very rare metal draws inspiration from other genres, which is kind of important if you want to innovate

[@mtgguiltfeeder4111]

@@JordanPool13 Metal probably draws from more diverse genres than any other type of music.... one look at all of the diff sub genres says it all... hard disagree....

[@aixide]

​@@mtgguiltfeeder4111 Hard rock, punk/hardcore, folk and classical is basically all of its infuences outside metal.

[@lollokopter11]

@@aixide it literally evolved out of blues. There's bands with country elements, with medieval elements, there's funky bands and so on and so forth. There are loads of different inspirations

[@imrolimra]

Tim be like "I hate this song. I'll learn from it" Genius.

[@Loctorak]

No wars were ever won by studying your own army

[@9dnovix]

There's a lot of philosophy going on in this chain. I love it lol

[@TheM.F.]

Speaks a lot about his character. Most people would probably just tweet about it and hate the song indefinitely

[@Ignore14]

@@TheM.F. yeah instead Tim makes art out of it, true genius

[@Loctorak]

@Vexxter haha dw I didnt steal a whole quote, but the idea behind that one was probably inspired by someone like Sun Tzu anyway 😅

[@akufoy]

this is like that episode of spongebob where he shows everyone how to draw a circle. and in order for spongebob to draw a circle he has to first draw the mona lisa and erases the stuff he doesnt need.

[@ChiefRager]

Yeah but the inspirations came from completely mastered songs. So he had a good diagram with the help of other genius artists.

[@leonardoestradavega2662]

@@ChiefRager that's exactly what the spongebob example says.

[@anthonysouza3413]

@@leonardoestradavega2662 epic bruh moment

[@mcstench8913]

@@ChiefRager r/whooosh

[@youmuookami7333]

@@mcstench8913 I Like your funny words magic man!

[@Stumashedpotatoes]

it takes balls to reveal that the arpeggiator wrote the riff. good stuff.

[@drivenelement]

Barely wrote the riff lol, Tim’s just being humble

[@dudarino666]

Yeah it gave him a seed of an idea. And then his immense skill took it to some insane level

[@davidk7439]

Something that I really respect about Tim is that he's very honest about how he composes his material, and how much digital tools aid in the process. Part of it is due to increasing music's overall knowledge base being a net-positive, but also because for what he's doing, knowing how to compose it means very little if you can't play it. It'll sound cool when synthesized, but it becomes incredibly special when played.

[@sparda9060]

@@davidk7439 I thik Tim does it that way because he said it allows him to be more creative and then figuring a way to translate it to playing it on a instrument makes it sorta special and unique since they basically doing an arranged cover of the digital music. Thats what I think of it when Tim makes the songs, doing creative covers of digitized songs from a computer program lol

[@teemunator]

@@dudarino666 Yes. You can hear he's own flavour in that riff. Arpeggio body with added melodic riffs..

[@NorrisOD]

I love how he has ichika floating around like an angel on a cloud lol

[@iforgotmyname2739]

He’s just putting Tim back on the track

[@miss_B_]

bro i loved that part xDDD

[@TheLazzarus101]

saw this comment before it happened. was thinking you meant like on guitar, then he popped up on the screen on the cloud. I died lol.

[@dumbnutz5145]

He also floating above you in the comment section

[@sushio4357]

@@dumbnutz5145 lol

[@carinae2035]

Next up: The Making Of Tim Henson

[@anamo3548]

Nah man you'd need to be verified on the hub to upload that now ;-;

[@iamjustanadam625]

@@anamo3548 lmao

[@homosapienfactory6291]

HAHAHAHAHA

[@DavidNwokoye]

@@anamo3548 I was about to say that

[@alexvidakovic]

In a factory for sure, he's not human, but a robot with mild Asperger's.

[@thisiseirand]

"just because you don't like it personally, it doesn't mean it's not objectively good" -Tim Henson 2020

[@maJastoL]

Very wise words indeed

[@0Enigmatic0]

"Objectively good" is a myth and means nothing. All that matters is that you explain your argument and reasoning with the text. There's no objective measure of good, and all criteria you could set is arbitrary. Whats considered "objectively bad because its not even in tune" means nothing in cultures with different tunings and temperament systems.

[@UbiDoobyBanooby]

...What tool fans constantly have to tell edgy music snobs who don’t know how to play any kind of music at all.

[@UbiDoobyBanooby]

@@0Enigmatic0 nah. That just sounds like objectively bad but with more steps.

[@0Enigmatic0]

@@UbiDoobyBanooby You heard it here first guys, if you live anywhere that doesn't use the western standard 12-tone equal temperment tuning, your music is objectively bad. It doesn't matter if all your country's traditional instruments have a different tuning standard, it sounds out of tune to westerners and is therefore objectively bad.

[@donglinlee1309]

Tim be like “I’ll just picked two artists that have beef with and write a masterpiece by their songs”

[@neilkenneth859]

"Imma let you finish..."

[@Brindlebrother]

but BEYONCE

[@potatopulse8983]

This comment is a grammatical masterpiece

[@teisguitar_old]

*people not guitarists, loke with polyphia music in genereal, objectivly sick but every non guitarist still think is trash

[@CarribeanMonkee]

@@teisguitar_old hard disagree. Musicians and guitarists have a different kind of appreciation, but Polyphia manage to make very technical music catchy. I'm the only member of my family that plays an instrument, all of us, parents included, like Polyphia

[@onespeccyboi9962]

This is actually hella interesting. Hope the series continues

[@dinom1384]

Yes! Please Tim!

[@tenzinchang6620]

Please do. We are starved for Tim content

[@onespeccyboi9962]

@@tenzinchang6620 I wouldn't say we are starved, he's doing less rn cos of all the work on album 4. But all Tim content is good content

[@kronik907]

1000% agree

[@dudarino666]

Yes. It's super inspiring. I'm no where near as talented. But it's expanded my writing. Thanks Tim!

[@drummerdemon69]

Dude... Finally someone who actually speaks how they wrote their tunes verses "yea so here I play this, then I play this, then I did this" ..... Like dude I can hear, I already like your song. You however really speak to the process and stuff. Seriously man, finally. This is super f***ing hip. Dont stop.

[@loldoctor]

Check out “on the one” if you like funk, it’s really insightful

[@lulupiperu]

Yes, this makes it much more interesting than any walkthrough/making of videos I've seen before

[@whirlwind872]

Guthrie Govan (legendary guitarist, if you're unfamiliar please get hip) has some videos on youtube called "professor shred" which are ~5 min vids where he breaks down various things about guitar playing that totally blew my mind, he explains things about music theory in a way anyone can understand yet the explanations provide deep insight into music in a way I haven't seen from ANY other guitar "tutorials"

[@drummerdemon69]

@@whirlwind872 no totally. Guthrie is the BEST. His are more clinical chats about guitar... These vids are more about a song and how he wrote it, all the way down to the track stem. Which is sweet.

[@blaineyoung1728]

Trrrruuueeeee

[@GaboGilbert]

Can we talk about HOW DAMN GOOD is the Ichika's part? Specially his second solo, OH. MY. GOD.

[@brendonpontes7705]

@@FelixAJRios yes it was

[@2.5k_ping56]

It was ok

[@Muryagami]

​@@2.5k_ping56 wdym? It was great

[@owenbrad]

Can we discuss the fact that the drums are actually written and made digitally, and Clay can still play it perfectly? Sensational drummer.

[@teacherfromthejungles6671]

all songs are written digitally first, and then they figure out how to play them IRL

[@JohnHenkamGangte]

@@teacherfromthejungles6671 yeah, pretty normal procedure

[@teacherfromthejungles6671]

@@JohnHenkamGangte that's how we did it with our band back in 2008. IDK what exactly is revolutionary here :D

[@npc8261]

@@teacherfromthejungles6671 I think he meant, that their instrumentals are most of the time really complicated, so it's more impressive to not just try out on the instruments, but write it on the computer first.

[@auto1nfanticid3]

isnt clay the bassist?

[@RJRonquillo]

These are great Tim!

[@bubbie3533]

Hell yeah they are RJ, and it's good to see you in the comment section. You have great videos on your channel too. 🤘

[@thegreenknight1033]

Yea of course its tim

[@riffsfromtheabyss666]

Yep, always fun and informative to watch.

[@bluesdude514]

Love your videos RJ!

[@mikekristin7201]

Seriously, very enjoyable and informative. You really relay your process well

[@tinasouami]

I meannnnnnn a breakdown of "Nasty" could be good? Maybe? c:

[@jakesaylor3646]

Sadly I don't think Tim or Scott know Jason's part, if you're talking about the end. When I saw them live, or anytime I see them play online, they only play the intro of it into goat. He's the Jason's part though. kzbin.info/www/bejne/amK6g5-woN5_j68

[@DurealzForReal]

@@jakesaylor3646 the hook is really fucking interesting too, thats definitely some trap shit

[@yasno1450]

yes

[@albertocosta3140]

This song is insane even without the solo part to be honest

[@PeterAbud]

Yeah, I agree with Tina. Even if Tim can't breakdown Jason's solo, he can share us the context of the whole song, including how they thought about Jason to be in that one, which would be really interesting since it's a very peculiar song.

[@mad-mac3781]

I didn't discover Tim Henson or Polyphia until about 3 months ago but it has been one of the best discoveries of my life and watching these type breakdown / how to videos by Tim Henson has completely changed the way I look at music and making music. This guy is amazing and true Master of Melody. Keep inovating and bringing actual original sound. Pls and thank u

[@chelfyn]

Two days in for me, and I'm writing guitar riffs I've never thought of attempting before. Tim's playing and writing has been one of the biggest creative inspirations I've had in years.

[@tylernichols3012]

Lol I love the crucible emblem as your profile picture.

[@amjb789]

That’s gross

[@amjb789]

@@chelfyn that’s also gross

[@dudarino666]

Exact same here. Heard crush by Lisa x a while ago. Didn't think to check out the original. It's been a great dive. You don't often get the joy of discovering bands on this level

[@SrEspantapajaros]

Who would have tought that O.D. was a Taylor Swift and Kanye baby

[@ShakeCross]

oof the part with ichika sounds insane

[@davi-es2ny]

i wish he had released this version. it's just awesome

[@ZRisyad]

@UCv5nz9r3nKK5QkWoU-sCcLA tim said ichika was initially play some parts of this song, but then polyphia decided to finish the song all by themselves and put ichika's part in another song called "death note".

[@Rob_Ethereal]

I love it more than Death Note 😭

[@matthiaschristiaens4831]

@@ZRisyad No they didn't put their part in Deathnote, you can hear the part Ichika wrote in this video. They just wanted it to go in a different direction and asked him if he had any other riffs laying around, which he did, and then Polyphia wrote a song around it, i.e. Deathnote. So the part in Deathnote is different :)

[@ZRisyad]

@@matthiaschristiaens4831 thanks for correcting dude

[@franciscoferreira4626]

Love how he effortlessly plays O.D. riff without even breaking a sweat

[@TFHeretic]

It's almost like he wrote it

[@iforgotmyname2739]

If you haven’t wrote a riff you can’t play... well, I want to be you.

[@TFHeretic]

@@iforgotmyname2739 Easy, don't write riffs. That'll be 50 bucks for the advice

[@ryuman757]

They took Ichika off the song because they knew it would've literally destroyed the universe if it made the song any heavier.

[@voxploxx]

3:46 I love the awkward silence after "So thats how the main riff was composed." Like this riff is just nothing to him

[@frederickpikovsky3586]

“It was 2017, don’t judge”.

[@TudBoatTed]

I actually love vocal chops 😂

[@joshforeman1648]

@@TudBoatTed my favourite beats always have those female vocal samples

[@TudBoatTed]

@@joshforeman1648 frrr bro

[@r0sso_]

it would be fucking sick if the ichika version would be available on like soundcloud or smth bc its fucking awesome

[@victorbitencourt9481]

same, it's amazing

[@Wtvr2]

wdym ichika version?

[@r0sso_]

@@Wtvr2 he showed parts that were played by ichika, they ended up not using those

[@adamgonzalez3580]

This song, as good as it already is, felt like it was missing a good solo, and it didn’t get ichika and it makes me angy

[@AbsoluteAbsurd]

Yeah

[@s4nti113]

When he used the arpegiator, that was the perfect example of work smart not hard.

[@EricLS]

Tim, your transparency and openness really inspires me. It legitimizes my own creative process, and pulls away the fear for me. Much appreciated.

[@phattran0001]

We don't mind if you do a whole "How to make" series with EVERY SINGLE Polyphia's songs

[@tacostastegood3720]

Preacher

[@waggshore3777]

I hope you're making this into a series, I'm really digging seeing the breakdown of your process (outside of catching it on a whim during stream)

[@lintukapula]

”Just because you don’t like it personally doesn’t mean it’s not objectively good” is a great point and every musician should get this. If you separate your personal taste and analyze stuff objectively I bet you become better and more creative with your music.

[@fliplaw]

I love this, please keep doing it. It's dope to get a glimpse into the process. It adds to the richness of each track by connecting story. Tight work.

[@sock1533]

tim henson and ichika nito are like a devil and an angel, such talent with such different sound and feel, yet somehow are similar

[@cej3940]

This series gives me the same vibes as when the smart kid in class explains the lesson to you

[@PhlioNihm]

I love these Tim, thank you so much for sharing some of your process with us!!

[@emilioolivares]

This is great stuff, Tim. Exactly the type of content that just gets us even more engaged with Polyphia. I'm hyped to see you guys live again. Hopefully, concerts come back this year.

[@maxgemstone7257]

3:31 Don't mind me, just leaving this here for myself.

[@nicovillazz]

@@maxgemstone7257 what i meant was I clicked on the 3:31 and and ad popped out 😔

[@Swollen_Goat]

I would love to know how The Worst was made. If that was anything crazy at all, because that song is still so amazing. Also great content. Love your explanations and it's both really creative and informative

[@hathaway.1166]

That song felt so simple yet so complex

[@nate7817]

it sounds so acoustic-y as well

[@FarFromIncident]

I’ve probably watched this video 6-7 times today already. I love this, thanks Tim! Even the Ichika part, as different as it sounded on top of the track, was beautiful.

[@ChrisWhoPlaysLizzie]

It’s so awesome that you map out your entire thought process and mention your influences and how you changed them into something completely original.

[@hyena4564]

Tim the youtuber

[@naav642]

we need the ichikaa versionnn

[@improvingguitarist1595]

I'd love more ichika collab in general but yeah

[@bigfunkman6876]

Tim this is amazing content! The way you break down the song and note selection is eye opening! im new to music and this kind of breakdown in music theory is something that master musicians and seasoned players can't explain. Keep breaking down these songs man! it brings a higher level of appreciation to your music!

[@ryanbrown2215]

My guy, thank you! I'm new-ish to the fam but so down. Fucking love the way you explain your thought process and inspiration. Been plying for years and thought i was decent, but you sir are on a whole other level. Super pumped on yo shit, you guys are sick af. Cute puppy!

[@joeljacob5673]

Tim said "let there be a song"....... and there were songs

[@therealmonster1209]

It's amazing that Tim Henson himself is making thid kind of videos

[@Loctorak]

Well he's kind of the optimal choice, right? Elton John would be rubbish if he was doing it

[@fromulus]

He's just a regular dude, who happens to have been born with a gift for making music. I love that he loves us enough to do these things, it's all for his fans.

[@therealmonster1209]

@@fromulus yeah, humble

[@derekflodin6938]

You're so talented and it's neat seeing your thought process. Thanks for showing us this.

[@cordellbriggs4984]

Thanks for making these Tim. These videos are really inspiring mate. Appreciate you my guy.

[@RelicsShow]

Next he is going to tell us that he got the idea of NASTY from Backstreet boys , smh

[@TudBoatTed]

😂😂😂

[@spamspasm8183]

NGL I've always thought Goose had such a late 90s boyband vibe to it. In a good way. Especially in that nice little riff he does after the break.

[@novander]

it's actually from cardi b's money bag lmaooo

[@cattamalon]

@@novander uhh maybe

[@Kibop123]

@@cattamalon nah it is, he said it in a stream.

[@iamdaveandhaveaniceday2651]

My weeb friend: who is your waifu? Me: iTs CoMpLiCaTeD

[@klyderain8817]

Tim best guitarist waifu.

[@bridgerthompson3881]

Love these videos! Hands down one of, if not the best guitarist alive. You inspire me to be more creative and try new techniques. Keep these coming please! Saw you guys in Phoenix btw. You were standing at the door and I couldn't even belive it was you! Never gonna miss a show when yall are in town!

[@sethm4799]

Please keep making these. As someone getting into production and liking your music a lot this is great insight. :)

[@Iwillneverfalterr]

Keep making this kind of content. It's so detailed and well paced/thoughout. You're a good teacher Tim.

[@nicolasholoveski3624]

though i love ichika and his style, i feel like this beat was hella to "intense" for his playing. Deathnote was a good call. Love this series, please keep uploading!

[@looty8982]

It wouldve been way better had it been mixed properly, but yeah O.D makes me wanna kick ass and chew gum, not ichikas vibe

[@CH-sh7ip]

Imagine if they worked on an O.D 2.0 to create WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN The direction it was going sounded incredible with Ichika's parts.

[@LucasMastropasqua]

These videos are some of the most inspirational content I’ve ever seen! An artist breaking down there own material creation in detail is worth its weight in gold. Wish creativity was teachable lol. This is better than lesson material I’ve paid for.

[@futureaugraphy]

First off, these are like bite sized masterclasses for self composing from inspiration. I love this. Second can we *please* get an ichika OD mix with his parts in it? I totally see how they don't fit with the vibe of the final cut but it would be awesome to see the song spun in a different direction!

[@Craftal]

Just FYI Tim, when trying to select all of one note in Ableton (Like changing all E's at 2:00) you can just click the note on the piano roll on the left side!

[@Ast3rixMusic]

I really like your songwriting style for guitar. It’s difficult coming up with parts that makes sense that don’t overcrowd the song, but your tasteful use of melodies really spice up your tracks. Very unique and innovative!!!

[@n0kodoko143]

seriously love your process. Much respect!

[@blindguitarfox]

I just wanted to say that I have been playing guitar for like 20 years and you’re band has been one of the most inspiring things I have ever heard in years!

[@Ken_neThT]

4:37 He says "Look what you made me do" as he shows the song structure. I imagined he was addressing Taylor when he said it lol

[@chronicmango]

Super appreciate the transparency in this whole process. Cool how you can start with an inspiration and come away with something that sounds so entirely unique to you. The way you think about music is so gnarly.

[@tiusragan-johnson]

These are really dope, and I love the honest insight into where the inspiration for your compositions come from. I also really respect the attitude about liking certain music vs. recognizing it as objectively good. I'd love to see one of these on James Franco or Champagne!

[@spamspasm8183]

This series just saved 2020 for me. Not even exaggerating here. Thank you Tim. This was extremely eye-opening.

[@blkplauge]

First of all, this is amazing. Hope you continue to make this into a series. Would love to hear a breakdown of The Worst, Rich Kids or Saucy. Second, REALLY hope you guys release that version of O.D. with Ichika. Got chills listening to his part.

[@illarius9680]

We definitely need more of these breakdown, they are so darn cool and interesting!

[@tonicspraypaints3784]

You're such a good musician and song writer! Can't wait to see you guys on tour!

[@DanaOrtiz]

Love love love this series. Learning a million things at once and brain on over load.

[@theparadisesnare]

Came for the technical breakdown of the song, stayed for Ichika Nito floating on a cloud and the dog feetsies at the end

[@travispatenaude9139]

Thank you for this break down and insight to your song writing. It is very insightful!

[@williamsimanjuntak5263]

Audio quality has improved. The sound of your guitar over the track on 3:30 is so tonally rich and satisfying. Keep making awesome shit man

[@guillaumedube5230]

It is amazing to see how the softwares can open up your creativity in those almost mathematical ways. Great stuff, thanks for sharing!

[@ianborukho]

Cool dude. Highly practical breakdown. Excellent compliments to the legendary music. Dope.

[@deuge]

The background music you made is adorable and uses the riffs from the song in quesiton - very clever!

[@CasperTheGhost64]

I've heard the song hundreds of times but still cracked a big smile when you pulled out your guitar and actually played it in front of my eyes. Shits so insane hahaha

[@sushx21]

O.D FT ICHIKA? THAT WOULD'VE BEEN FIRE BRO

[@joopnotyop]

Really wasn't IMO

[@karlbrinas291]

I can't believe Kanye and Taylor Swift was your inspiration for OD. What a peculiar combo lmao

[@trebuchetbeats]

Thanks for sharing your process with all of us. I discovered Polyphia just a couple weeks ago and was inspired. This content has me thinking differently and feeling I might be about to level up musically. We'll see where this energy goes. also...Ableton Gang! Thanks again

[@h0dltheph0ne]

Tim, much love from Croatia, keep the series up, very informative and helpful. gl&hf

[@CamKnoppMusic]

One of the most unique guitar players I've ever heard

[@joshthemangalad6653]

Have I ended up in an alternate universe where chris heria never started working out?

[@IBJ57]

Really appreciate breaking down the process and sharing.

[@flavy1000]

Great point of view about a song you don't like at first hearing...there may be something there...and that makes you wiser Tim I can 't stop listening to your music, though I know, it's your vision and gift, and that I' ll never be able to make something alike It's really calming and pushing you up, at the same time! And kinda clean and dark too! Thanks for these videos!

[@6idangle]

I love Tim’s attitude towards other genres and incorporating different sounds and not just going down the djent hole Would like to see crossovers between them and some of the more metal sounding rappers with high profiles

[@TonyMacaroni69_]

holy fucking shit that epic ending sounds sooo freaking awesome like fr I can't handle this. don't get me wrong the album version also sounds dope but it would be hella awesome if the ichika version was also available as a single or smth. like holy shit I think I'm having an eargasm right now. IT'S SO FUCKING EPIC

[@bolognatious1684]

I love this series so much, it really helps me think about musical composition.

[@ericthorpe5670]

Dude this is fucking awesome! I love the way you just hear shit you like and completely transform it into something that suits the rest of a song.

[@What-zb9ju]

Generations of guitarists (and musicians in general) will benefit from Tim breaking down his creative process. That's why Tim and the rest of Polyphia are not just musicians but gurus. Never before have so many people been given this opportunity to learn from music crafters at the pinnacle of their game. Bravo!

[@Jasonlimitless]

Tim is actually very cool and chill now he's dropped his weird sarcastic persona thing he was doing before, cool that he's so honest about using other artists music

[@icis27]

These are awesome - O.D and Deathnote are my top faves from the album, so naturally a Deathnote 'making of' would be my request - especially as you eluded a little to how some of it was created in this vid!

[@AkiraKenshin]

This is great, explaining how you created your songs must be important for you to share your passion not just for playing music, but making music too, and we get to learn and share in that experience as well. dope.

[@pedrolael7445]

The making of Drown, with Matheus asato explaing the solo, and you the harmony and inspirations

[@pizzazombie5209]

Lovin' it. You've already broken down my two favorites. Maybe Goose or Nasty next?

[@Jydmd]

Goose's my favorite!

[@guitourney]

Goose is da bomb

[@PeterAbud]

This are my actual Top 2 requests for him to do next lol. He has already shown a little bit of Goose in his "How to make a riff" series, but it would be great to see a video like this one about Goose, which is a real masterpiece.

[@HitMarkersAreFun]

these videos are very insightful and full of good advice, many thanks for sharing and hope you keep on with this series. Also, do 40oz next, love that song!

[@AntsaVRmusic]

I love your dog. (I mean I love your songs and how you break down composition process BUT that dog at the end , it was it for me , I send hugs to your dog)

[@JimmyFagiolino]

I’d love to see an “o.d. Remix ft. Ichica” that solo was lit

[@DivinityOfficialPage]

Would be sick asf if Tim started his own Trap/Electronic Side project 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@yungharambe]

Loving these videos and cant wait for the new album!

[@eatem7]

Please do more of this series. Love to see how you compose

[@stellaeerantes1265]

Thanks for sharing your process! Weird fun fact: Taylor Swift interpolated “I’m Too Sexy” by Right Said Fred as the rhythmic inspiration for “Look What You Made Me Do.” She did credit them as co-songwriters before releasing it.

[@FutureAirify]

I'd love to hear more about 'The Worst'. I loved the beginning so much even though it took me forever to play somewhat properly

[@brianpritchard8409]

Really cool!! You have such a unique songwriting process!

[@cricketamory3000]

Awesome stuff my guy! But i would LOVE to see a play through and/or a breakdown of Bad. I feel like it’s such a slept on track regarding any footage of it.