The Man Bringing Extinct Creatures Back To Life - Ben Lamm

[@ChrisWillx]

Hello you beauties. Access all episodes 10 hours earlier than KZbin by Subscribing on Spotify - spoti.fi/2LSimPn or Apple Podcasts - apple.co/2MNqIgw. Here’s the timestamps: 00:00 Ben’s Wild Plan to Fix Global Warming 02:46 How to Extract Ancient DNA 09:40 Making a Mammoth a Reality from DNA 22:55 What Could Go Wrong? 30:55 What Else Would Ben Like to Bring Back? 37:37 Why Mammoths Went Extinct 42:50 How Mammoths Are Useful to the Planet 52:07 Can Genetically-Created Mammoths Reproduce Naturally? 54:10 What Does this Mean for Human Advancement? 58:52 The Ethics of Genetic Enhancement 1:09:20 Where to Find Ben

[@mickeyflanagan4019]

It's so cool to see someone so passionate about what they are doing. I could listen to this guy all day. Awesome interview! Great job Chris. 😊

[@anonony9081]

There were so many mammoths that were so well preserved that up until the 50s you could buy a mammoth burger. The level of cold required to flash freeze a mammoth so well that it's preserved ten thousand years later is almost unfathomable

[@IreneLyon]

I remember Stewart Brand speaking about bringing back this beast of an animal well over ten years ago, maybe in his book Whole Earth Discipline. Good to see this circling back 👍.

[@travislemons9796]

It would be amazing to be able to tell my kids about the animals they'll be able to see one day soon, instead of listing off the ones they won't.

[@michaelgleason4791]

You mean while you're hiding in a fallout shelter?

[@travislemons9796]

With thick, glass windows.

[@конец-м7о]

Cry harder

[@funygameur]

​@@travislemons9796They'll be looking great once they've been shot couple of times by someone trying to steal your food !

[@ellie698]

Wow. What a fascinating conversation from start to finish. I've always been so wary of the idea of genetically reviving extinct species. But after listening to this guy talk, how knowledgeable he is on biodiversity, consequences of habit and species loss, and therefore reintegration... I'm hopeful that with these technologies handled in the right way, we could actually help to turn things around. Thank you for interviewing this amazing guest. 🙏

[@mippim8765]

.....you should bring back George Washington, so he can declare war on his own treacherous future government.

[@d.jparer5184]

I don't think satan will be willing to let him go.

[@mippim8765]

@@d.jparer5184 ....nothing like a hypocrite... ...because when your a hypocrite your also a liar too... .. ....

[@Jp421JP]

“Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.”

[@funygameur]

What's that from ?

[@Jp421JP]

@@funygameur Jurassic park movie, the original. It's true.

[@ChristopherRyans]

This is absolutely amazing. A unintended side effect though I plan on having kids one day. And i'm gonna feel like such a cliche saying to them When I was growing up these animals were extinct. uphill both ways

[@jonsavage4254]

This was awesome! Love the passion

[@eleveneleven572]

The return of bison, beavers, wild boar, predators are helping many Eco systems. The Russian steppes and Canada would greatly benefit from mammoth as well.

[@michelvernassal603]

Great interview as usual, thanks Chris. What about inviting Bobby Azarian, one of those days? 😃

[@actutus]

One question: how can you interview the guy working to bring back mammoths, and not ask if he plans to also bring back mastodons?

[@aleksandarlazic4620]

For all I know, currently existing species are running out of natural environment and we have zero idea how to slow that process down. So what are we going to do with a mammoth? Use as a zoo attraction? This dude is super excited about creating more misery.

[@ChaosTherum]

Did you miss what a mammoth is? It's an animal that lives in the arctic circle. There is zero issue with habitat destruction in the arctic.

[@kelvincasing5265]

In a few years, he'll be running across the tundra trying to escape killer mutant ninja mammoths.

[@kelvincasing5265]

But seriously, when you mess about with highly complex systems, you really can't know what will happen.

[@mattanimation]

I worked with Ben at a couple of his prior startups. The team he's assembled might be up to the challenge but I'm skeptical at best that he can contribute much beyond convincing people to throw money at the grandiose idea.

[@mattl8774]

So we've learned nothing from jurassic Park or terminator 2. Sometimes things aren't that complicated. We're fucked.

[@Sarah-with-an-H]

Apparently we also haven’t learned from real life there’s a spice section of bee that was created in a lab in hopes to create a bee that’s very productive and docile but the actual result was the most aggressive bees possible and they have becom very problematic in the southwestern US

[@WWoggins]

I'm pretty sure using Hollywood blockbusters as the thing we learn from would be a terrible idea. Actually, I think much of the problems we see today are BECAUSE we "learn" from Hollywood movies instead of the real world.

[@ChaosTherum]

@@WWoggins Well Jurassic park was a book first of all, and I see nothing wrong with learning something from thought experiments thinking about all the possible downsides.

[@annarboriter]

If you've listened to the video, you might have heard that dinosaur DNA is far too old and degraded to allow for deextinction @@ChaosTherum

[@GM-rs2fv]

Awesome guest.

[@dundundata7603]

Let's do it, bring back the Mammoths.

[@redi6518]

Holy crap no one mentioned that Kevin James had a brother with such a cool job.

[@Tom-qp6oh]

But does he have a segway? If not then Paul is the cooler brother!

[@Sarah-with-an-H]

So Jurassic Park was literally warning us of the future

[@bott3849]

It w a telling us not to do it ... this guy is an idiot

[@dem017]

It won't come to that, Terminator will become a reality first.

[@gibme69420]

@@dem017​​⁠I’ll call your Terminator and raise you Robocop!

[@nayrtnartsipacify]

i dont suspect we should be nessicarily be bringing back extinct creatures. Many more species of creature have gone extinct than we can even imagine. The survivors develop into new species.

[@seizurem80]

this dude is gonna make mammoth pokemon and im here for it

[@nikan2269]

Pretty awesome. We hunt animals and draw some to extinction, why not use our intelligence to preserve and bring animals back to life.

[@ellie698]

Hear hear

[@slaapliedje]

If we're talking about dropping ethics... when are we going to make a mammoth human? Tusks and extra hair to live in arctic climates would be useful!

[@gregorystacey2470]

Chris manages persistent interruption (guests) well. So does Rogan. Its a skill for sure

[@schmudej85]

What would concern me is what would the effect actually be if he should succeed in accomplishing this? What are the second, third, and fourth wave effects of bringing back species and reintroducing them into ecosystems which have adapted to their lack over several millennia? Would these not be considered invasive at that point and result in even worse damage than has already been done? Will they advocate for yet more de-extinctions should these reintroductions lead to further extinctions?

[@ellie698]

These are my concerns. Time after time is species realises too late that we're really not very good at figuring out, ahead of time, the consequences of our actions....

[@skydivekrazy76]

Does he realize how this movie ends???

[@Sarah-with-an-H]

I go a feeling that he movie was a warning to us

[@adamcroft3705]

I hate to pick on you, but I’m so tired of this response. This fear is based on a sci-fi thriller that was literally written with the goal in mind to become a movie. A movie I ADORE, but a movie nonetheless. A lot of things had to be pretty exaggerated to make the story marketable. So, I hate to break it to ya, but Jurassic Park wouldn’t happen, even if we could bring dinosaurs back. They would do more damage as invasive species, than anything else. We have weapons that can destroy tanks…rexy won’t be getting back up from one shot from that. And all of this is assuming they would be able to breathe after escaping their paddocks since their bodies would need air with a significantly higher concentration of oxygen than the air found in modern earth.

[@Sarah-with-an-H]

It’s not just based on fear from a movie. There was a new breed of bees that was created in the lab meant to create a very productive and docile breed of bee but that bee is the most aggressive bee in the distance and hav become very problematic in the southwestern part of the US@@adamcroft3705

[@christosacholos1082]

@adamcroft3705 close enough, I agree with the available firepower and all, but I think they will not breathe for the exact opposite reason. Most volcanoes were active,back then. Dinosaurs probably breathed less clean air than we do today.

[@bott3849]

​@adamcroft3705 hey thanks for being a pretentious jerk before admitting its still a major problem to do this

[@nicfox3874]

Coining a new aphorism: if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it might be a chicken... 😂😂😂

[@deanwest-bn9sm]

There are many animals you dont want to bring back. Sometimes dead is better.

[@dzonutube]

including people.

[@kclaw2157]

@@dzonutube this attitude is how you get genocides.

[@kelvincasing5265]

We're the only ticket any animals have off this rock. Otherwise they can just wait a billion years and get sun-roasted.

[@annarboriter]

Tell me that you've not listened to the video without telling me that you've not listened to the interview

[@ericdraven3654]

Could we bring Freddie Mercury back to Life? Very interesting conversation. Cheers from Spain ❤

[@Illyczka]

This seems like a mammoth project

[@spongebob423]

When you need to get from A to B, sometimes you run into a street and you know you need to cross it to get to B. What you don’t know is (i) what’s on the other side and (ii) what else is using the street. This guy is so concerned about what’s on the other side that he’s going to get hit by whatever else is using the street.

[@johannespilvikukka6003]

Where I live we have a problem with wild boar, and they used to have a natural predator, the Neanderthal man....

[@jkrofling9524]

This guy basically invented Lab Grown Meat*

[@seizurem80]

goddamn interesting stuff here

[@mike2510]

Good info, Chris and very interesting. Will help us understand physiology, genetics etc. now the nutty stuff: Chickens don’t fall in love 😂 More seriously, notice the religious language he uses, like “sin”. Define ecosystem collapse. Human caused warming didn’t destroy mammoths. According to a bbc report, the last mammoths had lost their sense of smell, had shiny coats and had other genetic defects. Perhaps it was too much inbreeding. How will you get rid of the rats? And prevent future rats since we still use ships. This seems impossible. We couldn’t even destroy the coyotes and boy did we try. Read American wolf or coyote America for more info. How much money and poison would be used here to reintroduce the Dodo? Why is this something you’d want to do, other than atoning for sin, whatever that means.

[@lilianlilian9461]

NO PLEASE DON'T Very doubtful that you know what you are doing

[@bradley4706]

Shame you didn’t ask about the morality and the possibility of bringing back our other cousin hominids

[@bradley4706]

Like Neanderthal or home habilis

[@sawtoothbygeorge]

When I die, can I have them bring me back to life?

[@billedifier8584]

Yes, but you'll have hairy skin and huge tusks.

[@ctdevadershjkumar9616]

Amazing podcast You need to say "That's Great " instead of "Ok" "Ok"feels awkward.

[@kelvincasing5265]

Ok

[@ctdevadershjkumar9616]

That's Great

[@marywimmer5018]

These scientists bout to kill us all with this mess.

[@tantalizingpocket9286]

Humans need to stop playing God. We think we are so smart and yet we really know nothing.

[@tysin-83]

I wonder if it could survive anywhere. Would it have the generic memory and instinct kind of thing. Or would it instinctively be geared for the ecosystem of the Asian elephant but can't survive that heat. So simply put, can this new mammoth we create actually mammoth ?. Probably only one way to find out. Could be varying results for each one made. The whole subject is vary interesting 🤔

[@keenbaker-dias1137]

imagine mammoth farts😂 experts should come with a health warning😂😂my love of beef is threatened but mammoth steak has me interested ..let's do it

[@markgeurts258]

Way too much advertisements..

[@anissaferringer4965]

Diabetes is curable?

[@TheSheekeyScienceShow]

p53!! --> 40:10

[@EL_394]

my favorite anti environmentalist movement is permiculture which basis species value off of utility irrespective of whether their "native" or "invasive".. we must not protect nature but overhaul it through intelligent design.. out of the wilderness and back to the garden

[@EL_394]

memory cant be defined and yet defines us.. only monkeys who remember the garden overhaul nature though intelligent design

[@ChaosTherum]

Yeah that sounds like a terrible idea. Any time you start tinkering with complex systems you can't predict the outcomes.

[@handsomebear.]

That thumbnail :v Did they use a puppy eyes filter on him or what in the _f- _*_cough_*_ I mean uhh..._ world, is going on there?

[@Andrea-zm1nl]

Ok so bringing back creatures that nature selected for extinction is more important that switching from crude oil to a non polluting source of power as a means of powering our world? 🙄🙄🙄🙄 Also the hubristic nature of ignoring the risks of this is just astounding...

[@cassieo4337]

Didn't the nazis attempt to bring back extinct creatures?

[@ChaosTherum]

Uh, both can be pursued at the same time. Especially since it seems like no one wants to actually move to nuclear quite literally the only effective form of green energy we have at the moment.

[@annarboriter]

By blaming natural selection for extinction of the thylacine, for example, you reveal that you know nothing about this topic

[@Andrea-zm1nl]

@@annarboriter the wooly mammoth was the animal I was referring to, not animals like the Dodo or the Tasmanian tiger, or any other animal mankind has killed off. And it is still more productive and important to focus our scientific endeavors toward a greener future that will cause far less ecological damage and extinct far fewer creatures. Once that is accomplished I'm all for bringing back mammoths, all of the songbirds our domestic cats have extincted, all of the wild cattle we enslaved the ancestors of for the purpose of breeding them into the cows we eat today, etc, etc... But what good is bringing these creatures back if the planet's ecosystems are too out of balance to do anything but re-extinct them? And if the funding goes towards this idea it's not going towards green energy or climate stability....how much do you think I know about this topic? I have spent the last thirty years of my life studying the natural world and how it's different systems work in tandem to form the biosphere we all live in, my dear.

[@Andrea-zm1nl]

@@ChaosTherum but they both won't be pursued and we both know it because the Fossil fuels industry with throw funding at fantasies like "come see the Mammoth/elephant hybrid we created!" And they will do this to retard the progress being made that's pushing humanity away from fossil fuels and towards nuclear energy. I mean who do you think puts out the propaganda that steers public opinion away from nuclear energy in the first place?... That's why I despise watching minds that are clearly very smart waste themselves on things like un-extincting already gone creatures. Please please please fix the warming planet problem first. Then, by all means bring back all of the poor creatures mankind has made extinct thus far and even some of the ones that nature selected for extinction. But what good is bringing the Mammoth back if the planet's changing temperatures and weather patterns are going to turn around and extinct them yet again along with us too!

[@annarboriter]

Carolina Parakeet! a victim of women's hat fashion

[@turdburglar123]

Man moths!?

[@VenomRoadRacing]

I'm all for mammoth meat for my carnivore diet lol

[@micheilmcleod9103]

Passenger Pigeon?

[@jamesclark5093]

We're not cloning humans 😉😉

[@ShootingUtah]

Ethically, bringing back animals that went extinct exclusively due to loss of habitat from humans is one thing, bringing back mammoths that went extinct from natural factors and a changing climate we had nothing to do with is another thing entirely! Mammoths naturally went exctint! Sure people killed a bunch but people didn't cause their extinction alone.

[@cosmicmuffet1053]

15:53 ... I'm at a loss as to the function of the idea that a biologist will repeat 'chickens grow up, get married, fall in love or whatever'. What exactly does he think the point of human ritual is? A fait accompli to animalistic acts? And why bring it up? Are these mammoth vaporware from a kid's comic-book script?

[@Rawmel84]

Right before I leave to Ohio for lost lands!

[@keenbaker-dias1137]

I'd like to bring back a penguin 😂yeah right ,does any one believe that?

[@grantfrith9589]

I love the idea of bringing animals back from extinction but listening to this guy regarding statins and LDL management makes me think he'd be better off laying bricks.

[@aanchaallllllll]

0:16: 🌍 The speaker acknowledges that their company alone cannot fix global warming, but they are focused on restoring ecosystems and combating biodiversity loss. 5:47: ! Ancient DNA can be preserved in various forms, such as bones, teeth, and inner beaks. 11:03: 🧬 The video discusses the process of analyzing DNA and identifying genetic traits across different species. 16:16: 🐦 The video discusses the possibility of bird cloning and the progress made in cloning a mammoth. 21:55: 🧬 The speaker discusses the process of working with the mammoth and thylacine genomes in computational biology. 26:53: ! The rate at which editing technologies progress will likely be the limiting factor in the number of edits that can be made in DNA. 32:38: 🐘 The video discusses the usefulness of bringing back extinct species, with a focus on the mammoth and dodo. 38:11: 🐘 The extinction of mammoths is a complex topic, with various factors such as hunting, climate change, and genetic bottlenecks playing a role. 43:36: 🌲 Removing carnivorous trees and planting cold tolerant dense species can lower ground temperatures by up to eight degrees, which is important for reducing carbon and methane stored in the permafrost. 49:06: 🐘 The video discusses the ability to produce mammoths and elephants and the challenges of scaling the process. 54:06: 🧬 The video discusses the potential of changing human DNA to survive space flight and acquire certain traits. 59:51: 🧬 The speaker argues that there is no fundamental ethical difference between embryo selection and genetic enhancement. 1:04:48: 🔬 Lowering LDL cholesterol levels to 50-75 can reverse accumulation and prevent buildup. Recap by Tammy AI

[@JT-iw2cw]

There's some interesting arguments being thrown around in this conversation, but the gist of them seems to be, "~Well, death happens in the wild so it's okay if we do X, because death happens anyway." I'm just not sympathetic to this, it's like taffy stretching the situation to reach whatever conclusion is drawn prior. I'm also very uncomfortable with how close much of this comes to eugenics, breeding and non mortal wombs. Much of this discussion sounds like the kinds of talks happening in the 30's and 40's. Be careful to think through the implications and conclusions one might draw from these conversations about genes. I'm afraid of the effects of the naïve end user en masse. We look unfavorably upon the parent who helps their child get a tattoo at an early age. The child might select something that they would be unhappy with later on in life. When it's a tattoo, there are some remedies to mostly erase the tattoo, and the child at least has the opportunity to select it. What happens in a society begins selecting genetic expressions for their pre-born children without consent? Perhaps the parents live amongst those that may select for lighter or darker skin, a slimmer or rounder bottom, or a less prominent nose. What is lost when the fashion of the era removes hereditable traits from a population? One definition of genocide is the removal of certain genes from a population. With access to selective gene editing, can we prove that people in our society would not lose their genetic diversity to the whim of fashion? This technology has great potential for a lost and broken future with a faded perspective on it's past.

[@troll_kin9456]

As tempting as it is to point to Jurassic Park and doomcast about the consequences of this, realistically, it's probably fine. We introduce species to places they don't belong all the time. Sometimes the effects are deleterious to the environment, sometimes they lead to problems for certain species, sometimes they create new management challenges, but it's not the end of the world. The most worrying part about this is his anticipated effects on the climate. No company or government has the right to conduct experiments on the climate of the entire planet. The hubris of the attempt would be alarming, even if these were morally irreproachable geniuses. But it's all the more alarming when you understand that climate alarmism is an anti-scientific cult, that political interventions - like the carbon credits the guest mentioned - are perverting the research and leading genuinely clever people to operate under false premises, and that rapid cooling is a much worse scenario than warming. My only comfort is in the fact that these models' predictions are never correct, and the hope that the mammoths won't actually impact the climate in the way the guest is hoping they will.

[@Fulcanelli-101]

What a colossal waste of time and money.

[@Sarah-with-an-H]

And if he’s capable the splicing of genes will completely change temperament which will become a work L’s card. Best example is the creation of African bees such is a lab made breed the idea was to make a n extremely docile and productive bees but African bees are extremely aggressive.

[@dzonutube]

lol, he "believes" we are in a eco collapse...maybe find the data to prove it, then let's talk.

[@andrewb5412]

Tharenos 2.0

[@WernerBrynard]

Bro forked a mammoth

[@Mathilde_Moksha_333]

I suggest forking the word itself to refer to it as tusking when speaking about biology from now on

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

Jurassic park?

[@slim-yin]

Chimera

[@1nonstopsherri]

Insanity!!! Thinking they are God?! Why don't you try and saving existing threatened species? Such as bees and other endangered species.

[@annarboriter]

Is chewing gum while walking also an impossible task for you?

[@bott3849]

This is just a bad idea.

[@christinalw19]

Shouldn’t God be in charge of what animals walk the earth during these days? I’m not willing to risk coming up against a dinosaur or wooly mammoth in the mountains. 🤔🤷🏼‍♀️🦅

[@stickyblicky11]

What's Gods opinion of dogs?

[@christinalw19]

@@stickyblicky11 why don’t you ask Him?

[@DavidMorisset]

As in the days of Noah.

[@mattl8774]

Not surprised. Looks like a T.T.

[@TheOriginalNiceGuy]

The evil Chinese are busy with all of this.

[@mrnovak]

The company is woke. Evolution will bring back these creatures before the company does.

[@EL_394]

"evolution" through natural selection drove mamoths to extinction due to ever decreasing genetic diversity.. nature is mechanical

[@quentinlarrieu1804]

How so ?!

[@bott3849]

What

[@guardianwaldo]

Think we need to stop trying to help and actually instead just clean up our garbage existance just saying this isnt priority sorry