The mango loa project: Ultra high density plantation uhdp mango orchard

Using ultra high density plantation techniques to improve the production and quality of mangoes in Hawaii. The Mango loa project is a funded by Western SARE sustainable agriculture research and education. high density farming. modern orchard techniques

[@richardw4928]

Umi I live in Miami Fl and have 300 mango and avocado trees on my 1/2 acre corner lot with a house and a swimming pool on the lot too. Everything is super healthy and perfect. If I told you how close some of my trees are to each other you would say I’m crazy. I keep most trees at 6’-8’ after each crop is taken. I am not going to give my trees nitrogen anymore to shut down vegetative growth. You should become obsessed with tipping every chance you get during the growing season after the harvest. Enjoy your bounties!!!

[@umisfarm9419]

Tipping is a constant with high density. I bet you get a lot of mangoes. Good to hear

[@msdramamusic]

Wow I'm in Central Florida with 1/4 I would love to see your setup.

[@kasasaemmanuel8409]

Great work, educational , we learn by sharing our works

[@Ponnus]

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[@bugsy4620]

An outstanding project so lovely to see the progress

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[@angelitalawang9914]

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[@thechief762]

It looks like between the first tipping and the second tipping the tree flushed twice. If you had tipped every flush early on you could have doubled the number of branches in your canopy. This might have reduced the apical dominance and slowed down vertical growth.

[@umisfarm9419]

you are right. some was done intentionally in order to create more space and some I just didn't have the time and missed the flush. I still have a lot to learn.

[@aovoonthefarmsouthernillinois]

Nice video. I just subscribed.

[@thehuntfortruth]

Some types of trees become less productive if not allowed to grow to their preferred height. That's what I hear from some farmers anyway

[@abyssinia3609]

GREAT WORK...please can you let me know how old those MANGOES are and at what HEIGHT did you start TRAINING/PRUNING them???!!!

[@umisfarm9419]

They are nearly 4 years. I top the tree at hip high or a little less. So the fruit is off the ground. You will do 3 to 4 rounds of pruning in year 1

[@Nobility209]

Nice work! i have a question. How would you fight off fruit flies?

[@angelitalawang9914]

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[@pansiluvithanage139]

What is current situation of the cultivation?

[@pe777x]

Thank you so much for sharing. I enjoyed it tremendously, high quality too. I'm also learning UHD farming after watching videos like yours. I have planted 360 mango trees that are less than 1 year old, planted 3 m x 3 m apart. I hope you can indulge me by answering questions about watering and weed control. How do you water your trees if there's not enough from rain?. How do you control weeds? I have sprayed with glyphosate, but the weeds keep coming back, and I plan to do another round of spraying soon. Do you use drip irrigation? Will you stop watering the trees after they reach a certain age and height? How often do you fertilize and what kind fertilizer and how much? Thanks again.

[@angelitalawang9914]

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[@Duijp]

Hey man lovely mango plantation you have! 😍 I was wondering how you applied to SARE to get the grant. Did you say that this orchard would be used for education and stuff like that because I want to start a small mango farm but I don’t have the money and I’m 16 years old. Could you please help me out sir? Thank a lot

[@angelitalawang9914]

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[@iftikharqureshi3570]

Nice video

[@godfredamesimeku6826]

What is the recommended planting distance and how many plants per acre do you recommend.

[@umisfarm9419]

This 8 feet and i've seen as close as 4'

[@AJ-hp3te]

you can go for 4 feet between the plants too

[@krishnaksingh2928]

Nice

[@realvipul]

its been 4 years. do you have any regrets? ie will you change anything to density if you able to go back in time?

[@umisfarm9419]

No regrets because it was a trial and I didn't know what the outcomes would be. I do think my trial was too dense, which creates problems with getting a tractor between the rows and needing more fungicides to deal with powdery mildew and anthracnose. So, I widened out the space between rows to allow more sunlight and airflow. I learned a lot from this project

[@doughesp8435]

@@umisfarm9419 great to have this reflection. If starting again could you say what pacing you would choose? Is there any other significant leson you could share?

[@kingcobra3883]

What number Fertilizer do you use for your mango trees during the first 2 years ???

[@umisfarm9419]

Hard to answer without a soil and tissue analysis. 8-8-8 is a good basic fertilizer, but I mostly apply minerals rather than blends. I use Calcium + Boron before flowering, 0-0-16 after fruit set. 4-10-40 after harvest pruning and 1 round of micronutrients

[@pingpaj]

Are your mangoes grafted? How long before you harvest from planting?

[@umisfarm9419]

These are grafted and it takes 3 to 5 years to get good harvest

[@pingpaj]

@@umisfarm9419 what is their expected lifetime?

[@umisfarm9419]

@@pingpaj that was my question when I started. only time will tell, but I've seen high density orchards about 15 years old

[@safetyleednkom8274]

Can you please share us the planting distance?

[@umisfarm9419]

8 feet in row 10 feet between rows

[@UnitedKingdomMountainMan]

hi Umi, thanks for the video. Could you please tell me the variety of mango and what it is on a rootstock or seedling. also please share the weather in Huwai for these mango tree. where you have got these mango plants from? if i would like to import these in spain then where should i look for? suggestion will be helpful. thanks.

[@umisfarm9419]

I have many varieties but the main ones are Rapoza(Hawaii), Keitt(Florida), white pirie(India), and Nom doc mai(Thai). Hawaii are subtropical islands and mangoes are subtropical fruits so very compatible. Spain is out of the tropics so not compatible. But you can grow in greenhouse or in pots successfully see how Japan does it. Not much is known about rootstock effect on mangoes. I use what we call Common mango, it is a small polyembrionic type that doesn't have a name. All tropical regions have mangoes maybe Africa or India is closer to your location

[@UnitedKingdomMountainMan]

@@umisfarm9419 Many thanks Umi for you detailed response, I have seen this today, during this time I have started a different orchard in India (that is for Apple and Walnut); that is in nothern part of INDIA. This year also planted few Kiwis, Almond plum and Peach ; hoping to see better results.

[@alokojha24]

Sir please send me more details on ultra high density mango technologies

[@umisfarm9419]

I have a facebook group. The mango loa project that has more information and you can always ask specific questions

[@hassanmakame]

@@umisfarm9419 can I join the group...am from Tanzania

[@alokojha24]

Thank sir

[@dedemulumba6917]

Good morning sir.... do you organise training of UHDP of mango... or you can give me advice for that

[@umisfarm9419]

I do have workshops on my farm but that is on Kauai. I usually answer questiond though

[@tahaabbasi7626]

Hello Umi, How much did it cost for the whole operation ?

[@umisfarm9419]

If you graft your own trees then main expense is irrigation about $3000 per acre. This is in Hawaii where everything is expensive

[@tahaabbasi7626]

@@umisfarm9419 This is such a great video by the way. I'm trying to learn as much as possible about this technique so that I can replicate it on our family farm.

[@hauolireeves9738]

Awesome! Thanks for sharing! Hopefully I can come see it in person some day 😎🤙🏽🙏🏽

[@kamaljeetsingh1859]

hlo sir i am from punjab , india . i have planted new mango orchard, not performing well . plants are dying, may yu guide me or help me to stablise my new plantation

[@umisfarm9419]

That's a hard one from where I'm at in Hawaii. My first thought is that it is too cold, what do you think?under 10°c too much is bad and colder is worse.

[@parlujipanji9764]

Hi, can I aplication this methode planting for avocado tree ? Regards from Indonesia.

[@umisfarm9419]

You can prune and keep avocado trees at 2 meters high and still harvest a lot. Avocado on trellis does very well

[@parlujipanji9764]

@@umisfarm9419 Tank yoy very much, God bless you.

[@bandit4true]

Where are you located

[@umisfarm9419]

Hawaii

[@mitchbrackenbury9370]

When was first topping

[@umisfarm9419]

Top when it is as tall as you want the main trunk Maybe 24 inches or 30 inches or 36

[@kingcobra3883]

Umi .. When you mean Topping, do you mean tipping?

[@SuperTeddy222]

Variety Keitt? 4x4 Meters?

[@umisfarm9419]

Some a Keitt but others as well. 2.6m x 3.3m

[@SuperTeddy222]

@@umisfarm9419 Definitely? 2,6 x 3,3meters

[@umisfarm9419]

Yes 8 feet by 10 feet with 600 trees per acre

[@SuperTeddy222]

@@umisfarm9419 4x4 there are about 600 plants per hectare, is your sixth too narrow?

[@umisfarm9419]

@@SuperTeddy222 it is too narrow for a truck but a smaller cart fits alright

[@rambhaij.karmur9663]

I think your plant is too high so have to Pruning emidiatly.

[@umisfarm9419]

Some may be too high and i'm working on getting them lower, but i like the canopy 8 to 10 feet

[@sadikafaruqi1747]

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