The Many Origins of The Joker

[@aregularjoe]

Joker was a failed KZbinr that went insane after people started calling him Mr. Scumbag movies

[@MisterSouji]

4 out of 5

[@biggdogg1975]

5/5

[@KingTray1000]

4/5

[@Ggg14914]

6 out of 5

[@sulthanfatah7802]

mason out of james

[@autismobinch135]

Everyone knows the Joker’s real origin is that he was a Gamer injured in the console wars.

[@theriddler2479]

He was a true vet

[@fjnemo]

5/5

[@p4kss97]

4/5

[@LibBorahae]

Solid 4/5

[@nerdyoutube7847]

Phil Ochs 4/5

[@dustinanglin]

I've always enjoyed "fell into a vat of chemicals and went crazy" for its comic book simplicity. Is he motivated by past grievance? Nah, he fell in a vat. Was he twisted by a long and complex life of trauma? Nah, he fell in vat. Is he a reflection of some dark thread in modern society revealing that *we* are the true Jokers???.........Nah, he fell in vat.

[@wjhull]

He is a reflection of a dark thread in modern society revealing that *we* fell in a vat.

[@victor6620]

We live in a vat.

[@Dorian_sapiens]

The real society was the vat we fell in along the way.

[@Codemarla]

Good opinion. 4/5.

[@tas7606]

I like Heath Ledger's Joker, because you have no idea who he is or where he came from.

[@the_ZAMURAI]

What we need is an origin video on Corn of Coblin

[@maximussuber4475]

5 Joy Buzzers out of 5, Good Sir!

[@autismobinch135]

Fist of Dante Media 5/5

[@nathanbuttgame]

I've got a dead horse you could beat if you'd like. 😅 Jk bro.

[@saintniccage2818]

Laughs 6/8 weeks ago

[@rhetiq9989]

Norman Oscorn sipped too much experimental Oscorn Corn syrups which drove him insane and became the iconic villain

[@andresrangel5676]

Really appreciate the 4/5 line lol. Tranquility Base!!

[@chupcook]

Men of taste.

[@cheasepriest]

And thats un heard of

[@oliverholland6941]

this comment is 4/5

[@Ryan-the-Rocketeer]

Fun Fact: Tranquility Base gets its name from the Sea of Tranquility on the Moon, the site where in July 1969 humans landed for the first time. Also, it's a great fuckin album

[@arthursneyers6626]

Ryan Leone hah neeeeerd

[@theonetosaveyou]

He's a multidimensional traveler and he goes crazy because no dimension finds his comedy funny.

[@Sophie_the_Sapphic]

pretty good 4/5

[@SmeagolTheGreat]

That's almost what the Phoenix one turned out to be.

[@krisraptor2248]

Theory: Corn of Goblin killed Jokers parents. After that Corn of Goblin ended Jokers comedian career. And now Joker is siking his revenge on Corn of Goblin!

[@autismobinch135]

Kris Raptor 5/5 Joy Buzzers

[@aregularjoe]

4/5

[@alisterfolson]

Good to see Corn of Coblin mentioned again

[@mostlymattmostly6424]

4/5 joker buzzers

[@KingTray1000]

4/5

[@daidarabotchi3891]

That Pale Man shit doesn't really work for normal Joker, but for an alternative take, it's kind of amazing. The idea that he's more a spectre than a man - honestly, that really gave me the chills. I think the Joker can be _scary,_ sometimes, especially when you lean into the more violent aspects of his personality, but he's never _terrifying..._

[@Ryo-sj8wn]

"If I'm going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice" - the Joker

[@mikewaggoner4562]

Theory: Joker was originally a gangster that got ratted out by 6ix9ine....

[@TheMostUninterestingMan]

Clowns are supposed to stick together, not stab each other in the back.

[@biggdogg1975]

3/5

[@KingTray1000]

0/5

[@damnrapunzel8130]

Reported

[@Kinography]

Mike Waggoner he is the *RED* Hood after all. Joker is a member of the Nine Trey 🅱️loods confirmed.

[@battleupsaber462]

No matter the origin, one thing is constant: *SOCIETY*

[@arthurnordin6046]

Spitting facts right here

[@RohitRajput-iw5yd]

GAMERS RISE UP

[@RijaMo]

We truly live in a society

[@TommiP1988]

4/5

[@Turbo3032]

And in Black Mirror; Society is a phone, just how much depends on the episode.

[@aidanrogers4438]

The theory of the Dark Knight Joker being ex-military is really solid, other than what’s said in the video, he’s shown to have experience with explosives, mentions a “truck load of soldiers” that blows up to Harvey Dent, and he even says “I know squealers when I see them, and...” when he first meets the mob leaders, hinting he’s been apart of “enhanced interrogations”. Nolan’s Joker is probably an army vet who suffered from PTSD and he used the persona of the Joker to cope with the psychological pain.

[@autismobinch135]

Aidan Rogers He was a Gamer injured in the console wars

[@EvanFowler]

There was a cereal ad in an old Gamepro magazine where this kid is VERY angry about getting some plain Cheerio's or something and the kid's face suddenly cracks into a demented smile while his skin bleaches itself and his hair grows out quickly all green and shiny. It was terrifying. The idea that The Joker is just this unstoppable spirit of cereal madness that could seize hold of you at any moment, any age, haunts me to this day.

[@HenryBDC]

4/5

[@daidarabotchi3891]

Wow, that's nearly worse than the Pale Man, Jesus Christ

[@gobbieribbons]

Just a guy who danced with the devil in the pale moonlight

[@jearn11]

I prefer the versions where Joker was originally just a normal guy rather than a former criminal/gangster. The idea that a normal person can just one day snap and become a maniacal psychopath is far more interesting than a criminal who decided to up the ante.

[@m_ali_0450]

I bet that The Joker has a post credits scene or ending where the Wayne’s die.

[@autismobinch135]

NoobMaster69 6/5 Joy Buzzers

[@alexandersmith7061]

I bet it’s gonna happen during the movie

[@Eoinster]

Spoilers obviously but yep, no post credits scenes but it happens toward the end

[@m_ali_0450]

Elmodonnell How is Batman’s origin story a spoiler?

[@desktopshorts7411]

There is no post credits scene, my friend. But it happens in the last 10 mins

[@masreklaw6441]

Joker: tells origin You wanna see me do it again

[@autismobinch135]

Sam Walker 4/5 Joy Buzzers

[@masreklaw6441]

Phil Ochs 😂😂

[@samwalker3642]

😂😂

[@gloryordeath1165]

My favorite answer to this question comes from Joker himself also in The Killing Joke where he tells Commissioner Gordon "If I'm going to have an origin story I prefer mine to be multiple choice". In my opinion that statement is the Joker in a nutshell

[@Edge2307MC]

Whoever edits these is clearly an Arctic Monkeys fan.... I love it

[@alterclark1]

4/5 theory: Joker's wife Greg forces him to work out & dye his hair driving him to madness *all in good fun

[@p4kss97]

4/5

[@NoConsistency]

Joker is best with no origin. It makes his entire existence a juxtapositional joke on Batman. Batman wears a mask, modulates his voice, and takes other extraneous actions to hide his identity. Despite this, many characters in including Robin, Alfred, and depending on the storyline, other select individuals in Gotham and the DC Universe know his secret identity. But the joker doesn't do that. The Joker wears no mask, no costume, The Joker presents himself as an open book. A man with no filter who does and says anything he wants. Yet we know nothing about him. The joke is that we know almost everything about Batman, despite his efforts to keep it concealed, and we know nothing about The Joker, despite his outward, unchained personality. When you give the Joker a definitive origin, that Joke on Batman is ruined. It's all part of their perfect duality.

[@yavrielsechelle7431]

I like that.

[@Nerdcoresteve1]

Humor aside this is always the best way to handle The Joker.

[@omaharapper]

My favorite is when Joker realized that we lived in a society

[@juangabrielcabardo21]

we do?

[@thepanelbiter9915]

This isn’t an origin, but my prediction is that Arthur Fleck dies at the end of Joker, but his effect on society is so big he inspires other people in the future to become The Joker. It would be a neat way of maybe tying this in with the new Batman movie we’re getting or, at the least, allowing any version of The Joker’s story to be true by saying its different people every time.

[@bones1880]

Here's a Joker cinematic origin theory. Joaquin Phoenix is the original recipe Joker in the Snyderverse that ends up killing Jason Todd, then Ben Affleck's Batman kills Joaquin Phoenix's Joker, and he's Batman's first kill. Later on Jason Todd is resurrected in a chemical Lazurus pit, and Jason Todd becomes Jared Letos Joker.

[@Beardsly]

Keep up the good work boys. You put a smile on my face!

[@crenshawshank]

Can we commend Mitch the editor here for the "but... both probably know a guy named Bob" sequence at 6:24 ?

[@FilmRunner]

Thank you!

[@jmace2424]

“If I have to have an origin… I prefer it to be multiple choice.”

[@aclockworkreview]

Mason and James Australia's finest heros

[@autismobinch135]

A Clockwork Review 5/5 Origin

[@aclockworkreview]

@@autismobinch135 thanks

[@SmeagolTheGreat]

That choice of pic for "skilled across the board" was **chef's kiss**

[@Brook11223]

This is an amalgamation of The Killing Joke, The King of Comedy, Taxi Driver and the Man who laughs to name a few.

[@thespiritofjonathanjoestar6805]

Okay Raghu

[@rcbmmines4579]

With maybe bits of TDKR and maybe White Knight.

[@autismobinch135]

Raghu Seetharaman 5/5

[@Brook11223]

@Comicstelling The Man who laughs starring Conrad Veidt. That's the basis of the Joker's laughter. Jerry Robinson based on the Joker's laughter from Conrad Veidt.

[@ThreadBomb]

@@Brook11223 Except "The man who laughs" (1928) was a silent film! The _look_ of the Joker was definitely based on that film.

[@lewiseagland6738]

never loved a running joke in a video more than the AM 4/5 references love it

[@Bluargh02]

Jerome, even when he never was the real joker his first joker like reaction gave me goosebumps.

[@willfay5233]

In the intro I loved the RakkaRakka bit lol!

[@jamesmount1846]

The Arctic Monkeys and Oasis references are really selling this video to me, cheers Mason.

[@rtl3956]

Is it just me that always likes a mr sunday movies video before watching

[@PaulDozierZZoMBiE13]

Nope. Not just you.

[@sailormoon732]

Joker is a milk man who fell into a vat of school children

[@jackson15williams]

No he's a school bus driver who falls into VAT of milk

[@matthewblanc]

4/5

[@teddy-fl6hm]

7:25 It's like poetry, it rhymes

[@Seldomsleeper]

This video's editing must've taken ages! So much work, well done to Mitch J Towers

[@FilmRunner]

Thanks, mate!

[@flozikthasapeson9725]

6:41 that is some underated editing, I dunno how u did it, but we'll done

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

2:27 he DOES have an abusive parent. I think it's a coincedence but perhaps the movie actually did research into the Joker

[@sashabrauen]

I think that the joker will do something bad

[@RemixBloke]

4/5

[@Thespeedrap]

Everyone knows that Joker is bad

[@Moe_Lester_fromUptwn]

And he'll laugh. Maniacally.

[@Nerdcoresteve1]

Illuminati confirmed!

[@jasonmenkins]

SPOILERS!!!!

[@Jedi_Spartan]

For a future caravan of garbage video, could you two possibly cover whatever that Marvel comic is where characters from every Earth based superhero team get turned into Hulks? (I think it's called Fall of Hulks, Hulked Out Heroes and World War Hulks in some order. All I know for sure is it's when the identities of the Red Hulks are revealed).

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

*The Joker:* _We live in a world of hypocrites; where people pray for your downfall but smile in your face like they love you all at the same time._

[@autismobinch135]

Mr. Friendship I rate this 4 societies that we live in out of 5

[@ErikCopperMusic]

No one: The Joker: *YA WANNA KNOW HOW I GOT THESE SCARS???*

[@autismobinch135]

Erik Copper 5/5

[@juliangarcia5730]

What if this Joker is and stay with me now...just a guy who turns crazy.

[@benjaminironside1151]

Ridiculous theory. 0/5

[@trashboat2687]

Unpossible

[@ThreadBomb]

What if he's a criminal who wears clown makeup?

[@Sophie_the_Sapphic]

terrible theory, doesn't make sense 4/5

[@bakedcrystal915]

But how does he turn crazy?

[@ericstaples7220]

I like how you incorporated Romero's painted mustache as part of his character's insanity.

[@WeavePap]

The fact that you threw in a shot of Racka Racka’s Ronald McDonald at the beginning makes me so happy

[@ikeyasector]

The Joker started off as an IRS agent. It doesn't get any more evil than that.

[@seanfinn1046]

He was the one that won Who Wants to Be Millionaire, but the IRS took half his money. He went mad from the hypocrisy.

[@seanfinn1046]

5/5

[@johnclavis]

He's a playing card that escaped from the pack!

[@HighNoonTex]

I like the version where he's an alien who is exiled from his planet for being too dangerous. 4/5

[@nathanbuttgame]

You guys know about the three Jokers? One is the golden age, one the modern and one the killing joke, supposedly, I believe. So multiple of the origins you mentioned are possible. And that's definitely a 5/5. Shoot that's a 15/5 if I say so.

[@autismobinch135]

NathanButGame 3 jokers out of 5

[@yuhyuh7603]

8:19 "Where's the detonator!?" "Uh, go get him!" *bark* *bark*

[@Avocado11]

6:30 I remember either the Batcomputer or police files showed that animated Joker is also Jack Napier.

[@septemsolis4908]

“The Batman who laughs” would be my favorite

[@jakemunoze7430]

The joker was on a secluded island of only men, and was going home from the theatre after watching zorro one knight. He got into an accident and the only thing that could help him was a alien 'brotherbox' from a wizard. And when he shouts the word brotherbox he can find a dying alien who gave him a ring that has the will power to create an orgin story he wants. And he's a billionair that can breathe underwater.

[@seanfinn1046]

He becomes the funniest man alive. 4/5

[@isabeltfriasg]

I think all the origin stories of the Joker are true, we just haven't put them all together.

[@timothyhowe51]

I like how Batman from 90s cartoons finds out about joker's alter life. Just draw a red smile on him. GREATEST DETECTIVE IN THE WORLD. just draw a smile on a picture of some guy and gasp it's the joker.

[@bamannpiderman]

You two are skipping over the only real 5 out of 5. He was experimenting with a bunch of chemicals and failed, then Batman shows up and blows out the chemical spill. It causes the Joker to be bald and have that smile or some stuff... 5 out of 5

[@acgeewhiz]

Lex just assume that’s the real theory and he’s not just some random unemployed luther. Batman must have some super lung capacity to blow out those chemicals, man.

[@juangabrielcabardo21]

The thing i like about Heath Ledger’s Joker is that he has no cemented origins. Yes, there are theories, but it’s never explained in the movie. He’s a mystery, and that’s what gives him his aura and enigma

[@TobeWilsonNetwork]

8:30 you telling me to skip to 9:11? I’ll tell you, Mr. Sunday Movies, it’s PC gone mad mate.

[@claytonandres1194]

What about the origin on Gotham, where he’s the rejected son of a sordid affair between circus performers who then goes crazy and inspires a whole bunch of other people to become the Joker but then he’s just the Joker but wait he dies but he had a twin brother or something?

[@dylansmith8984]

It’s so much better when he doesn’t have a definitive origin.. i.e “The Dark Knight.” It would have made Heath Ledger’s Joker a lot less mysterious to the determent of the movie. BUT I’m excited to see if giving him an origin in this movie will make it a great character study. Can’t wait

[@jasonmillsom2981]

The Arctic monkeys reference are insane

[@tommyflanagan2798]

One morning Cesar Romero tried to slightly trim his signature moustache but didn't use one of Harry's Razors and got it completely wrong, went off the deep end and became the Joker. Also he lived in a society.

[@shardgunner4815]

I always loved the New 52 immortal joker thing. I don’t think it’s groundbreaking or anything, but it’s an origin without an origin which is very joker-esque. It explains how he arrived at his present state without explaining how he actually came to exist. We know that he’s this immortal guy which is why he’s insane, and that Batman methodical ways of vigilante symbolism pose as the threat of another “immortal”, so to speak. We understand that the “Pale Man”’s mind has deteriorated over the years into what he is now, so it feels like an origin. Then again we still have no idea how he started to exist or why he’s still alive. It’s just like, if you HAVE to kill the mystery, at least put it on life support

[@dennydarkko]

It’s funny because 5 seconds into the video they said “it’s most likely based off of the killing joke”. It’s not based on it at all. He isn’t even actually a comedian. He just tries it ONE TIME. And that’s how he gets his big break on tv, leading Murray Franklin to invite him on the show

[@cm1701a]

Saw the spoiler warning... reached for my mouse to skip.. and bam! too late. Now I can't unhear the Joker spoiler.

[@DredgeX97]

Well, he is insane, so what's to say that he's not all of them? Like, he uses a strange version of the Lazarus Pit, what's to say that every time he uses it, he goes a bit crazier, and it wipes his mind and he gets new memories?

[@torva360]

He was a youtuber who covered movies, but kept getting demonetized and flagged. On top of that, he was coming to terms with the crippling reality that he was getting old. One day, after accidentally watching Logan Paul, he decided everyone needed to die. So that became his new mission.

[@MichaelTheMovieMan]

Joker from the animated series was Jack Napier too. I can't remember the episode but an Arkham guard mentions that Joker was once known as Jack Napier

[@Red-Robin2011]

I saw that Racka Racka clip in the opening! Also most likely it will follow killing joke

[@supernerd5781]

The brother one sounds like something interesting if done in an interesting way perhaps.

[@sonsofthewestredwhiteblue5317]

Heather Ledgers Joker doing a kick flip over a downed Dark Knight. You c**** are gold. Editors note: I’m an Aussie so this is genuine affection rather than offensive admonition. 🇦🇺🥰

[@ocwardle2001]

Loving the arctic monkeys references on the channel lately

[@sibylsaint]

6:38 I LOVE how every woman in the 90's WB cartoons wore a miniskirt. I just love it. :)

[@adrienr.7419]

In the animated series there’s an episode called the “joker’s wild” there’s a file on the joker and his name is jack napier

[@GoodLuckTroll777]

whoa! I'm the military joker at around 8:10. so awesome seeing me pop in this!

[@WhatLake]

Don't know if it's my favorite, but the Telltale origin was very interesting and quite different than most.

[@autismobinch135]

The Incinerator Guy Yeah it was completely unique 5/5

[@KenWojcik]

I think there was also a Batman the Animated Series episode where Joker was a failed comedian who lost at a contest, and then years later he kidnaps all the judges.

[@MrJackalope15]

He used to be The Riddler but then my mum was all, "It's that guy, The Joker, or something." So he had to change his name

[@seanfinn1046]

4/5

[@MrJackalope15]

@@seanfinn1046 yessss

[@samzheng5803]

I really enjoy the fan theory about Dark Knight’s Joker being a former marine/soldier/military person of some form or another.

[@stefanfilipovits21]

I like the Lovers and Madmen origin story

[@ConnorDoesRugby]

The joker was a guy who was attacked by corn of Coblin and then he was like “I’m gonna become the joker now” That’s my favourite one

[@autismobinch135]

Supercooled Gaming 5/5 Joy Buzzers

[@ronydrod]

Never been happier for an ad, played when I stool to throw the rubbish

[@yuhyuh7603]

8:19 "Where's the detonator?!" "Uh, get him."

[@teddy-fl6hm]

Anyone else seeing a theme of 4/5 joybuzzers

[@theotherlaser]

I like his origin in the telltale Batman games depending on how you play but you can tell he’s at least a little insane even before he met Bruce

[@Eh_D-Man]

Appreciate the use of oasis as the joker Batman brother’s picture. 4/5

[@safariatari1094]

Always preferred a joker who had no clear origin or at least told different origins to different people. It maintains the sense that he is just some crazy, unpredictable guy.

[@poissonCHA1]

even though I cant wait to see the movie, I really appreciate that we dont really know which story is the real origin story or not. I love that the joker always lies about it all the time. I would love to see the movie taking inspiration from that and when it ends, to still be unsure if i was true or not. ... if that makes sens ...

[@notsosmartguy6254]

I always loved "the Joker is Bruce's Brother" thing I know that's kinda unpopular.

[@invadazim4320]

I think you guys could have included the john doe joker from the batman telltale game

[@SteefPip]

In the first season of Batman the Animated Series (I don't remember which episode specifically), Alfred (I think) mentions Jack Napier in passing.

[@m1xedp1ckle]

And that's unheard of

[@KrazyKryptonian]

Given that DC Rebirth undid much of the New 52, I find it funny that whenever the New 52 is mentioned in this video, they cut to an imagine of the Rebirth Superman.

[@AWW8472]

You left out the intricately complex and convoluted origin from the Gotham TV series. That was a Joker origin factory.

[@michaelNicolaides]

BATMAN 1989 is my favorite Origin. I personally like the idea of Batman and Joker unintentionally creating each other. Killing Joke origin i like 2nd best if not equally.

[@TheMajinBuu]

Everytime he says Fathah (Father). I think of the shark from Finding Nemo. "He doesn't even know his fathah"

[@jordandodson1991]

2:53 That sweet 4/5 reference. (Great song) edit: oh, it's a running gag. guess I didn't need to point it out then

[@TheFiddleFaddle]

Full disclosure: I only remember to like your videos because you remind me every time 😂