The Marikana Massacre: South Africa's Deadly Strike

[@Fruitloopz13]

Please do more videos on South Africa. From a South African. Your content is always well researched, factual and objective. I love seeing the ANC government getting exposed for what it is

[@Mike--Oxmall]

All he is doing is summarising Wikipedia.

[@Fruitloopz13]

@@Mike--Oxmall I doubt it

[@Mike--Oxmall]

@@Fruitloopz13 Lmao thats where all KZbinrs go and get their information from, do you think they actually bother doing any research besides that?

[@TheUntio]

​@@Mike--Oxmall name checks out

[@Fruitloopz13]

@Mike--Oxmall did you actually read the Wikipedia entry? It's pretty narrow minded to say that ALL of any group does anything a certain way.. especially when the guy works with a team of writers. Just because the same info relating to a historical event shows up on Wikipedia doesn't mean that it was the source. Even if that were the case (it's not) still well presented and factual

[@AllThingsCurrentAffairs]

I'm a South African in SA and a huge fan of your work, my face lit up when I saw this. Thank you for covering it, you never miss and are impartial when detailing something.

[@jessgunn6639]

This was the type of government they grew up with under apartheid, so once they got into power they ended up slipping into exactly the type of hard line governance they knew and understood, they had no other experience and you repeat what you know, totally selling out the dream to turn it into a nightmare

[@alexanderb996]

​@@jessgunn6639basically what happened in Liberia

[@Fruitloopz13]

​@@jessgunn6639I think you're over analyzing it..was simply bad management from all sides. It also doesn't help that to be a South African policeman, basically all you need is a matric and about 6 months of low standard training. To get a Matric in SA you need an average passmark of 30%

[@Fruitloopz13]

People seem to think that so many problems are caused by complicated socioeconomic factors and generational distress.. In this case its just a lack of professionalism thanks to a corrupt/inept socialist government

[@aq5426]

@@Fruitloopz13 Oh, so like in the US then.

[@Wolf-hh4rv]

The ANC promised to destroy Apartheid and transform South Africa. They transformed Apartheid and destroyed South Africa.

[@ruandutoit3573]

Best comment i have ever seen😂

[@louwriebadenhorst5676]

accurate

[@Mx.Dmg1999]

Fr, if the people gonna thrash their communities and loot like morons!, ANC is getting exactly what they wanted, the people "divided" and against each other

[@semicolon101]

GG

[@robertmaybeth3434]

OMG dude that's f#ckin brilliant it ought to be the headlines in the new york times every time they do a story on SA

[@buy_large_mansions]

The international media talked about the Sharpville massacre in 1960 for decades but forgot about the Marikana massacre after a couple of days. Strange.

[@jennaxoxox4821]

Corporate media seldom chooses to report pro-corporate atrocities.

[@buy_large_mansions]

@@jennaxoxox4821 Sharpville was committed by white people while Marikana was not and left wing media will always focus on that.

[@buy_large_mansions]

@@jennaxoxox4821 left wing media chooses to report what it wants.

[@jennaxoxox4821]

@@buy_large_mansions don’t start that BS. You know better. Corporate media is corporate media. The boardrooms are packed with right wingers searching for a tax shelter. The only difference is that Murdoch media is willing to lie to their viewers. I’m waiting for another rerun of the 2014 caravan footage to scare the homogenous blondes in the northern states right before the election. They’ve already done that play in 2016, 2018, 2020 and 2022.

[@foo219]

That is odd. Any idea why?

[@jancoetzee6044]

I'm a South African and still living in SA. This whole situation could have been prevented if only the SA government had any idea of actually ruling a country and not plundering it and the people and bringing the whole of SA to the brink of total collapse and unfortunately most probably violence and bloodshed. Just look at our economy, crime and the number of people without work and then they are proud of the number of people now on social grants and how they did it. I just don't see any future for my son here who is now 9. But unfortunately not all of us can go somewhere else.

[@The_barefoot_bedouin]

Can go to a country that suits your needs. I’m native to South Africa- my ancestors and my blood is South Africa, however there came a time when I decided that to leave and try a new life elsewhere. We will die and leave this world so it’s not worth trying to hold on.

[@chromeboy92]

@@The_barefoot_bedouinif only a ticket and a new life were free, everyone would do as you did.

[@EMan-cu5zo]

Come to America, we are letting in people from all over the world. If you are a white South African you might have some trouble but I would rather live in South America any day than where you are. I honestly would get a plane tans walk through the border. We need decent immigration and we don’t have that currently.

[@willisengelbrecht7731]

It's a filthy party who only think about their own pockets and it's caused a horrid mindset in the young where they don't care if there's corruption they vote because they personally benifit

[@phaedrapage4217]

I do hope that somehow your personal situation improves enough that you can get your son out and move somewhere he can have a future. I can not even begin to fathom the fears you have as a parent but you are in my thoughts, as is your child. My words seem empty even to myself. But they come from a place of love and humanity and I hope they are received that way. ❤

[@backroomsguideno.87]

And remember, if you think "the government wouldnt do that!", oh yes they would.

[@Tony.795]

@@WanderingMiqo That hasn't stopped the US government either though.

[@kaydoeteccc7741]

​@@Tony.795because the government keeps infringing on it, reducing amount of firepower one can have.

[@Jalenlane93]

​@WanderingMiqo Yea, because your handful of weapons can stop a FBI Swat team or drone strike.

[@kaydoeteccc7741]

@@Jalenlane93 well if the government didn't infringe on them, maybe they would

[@nathanfrank6299]

​@@kaydoeteccc7741 Maybe if there weren't "law abiding gun owners" the government would have a harder time.

[@fistosravenscroft6651]

Wow! As a South African I did not know most of the nitty gritty information, I knew the basics. Thank you for this

[@amystow4169]

Your coverage of South African crime and issues are always so thorough and well presented, often better than what we get ourselves in South Africa! Massive fan of your work! Hoping you cover more South African serial killers (we have many!) especially on the casual criminalist. Keep up the great work :)

[@Chez114]

True, but much respect to Carte Blanche

[@SxmurxiJCz]

As a SA’n. Thanx for shedding light on this massacre. Its heartbreaking that many were killed just bc they wanted a better life for themselves 😔

[@crampusmaximus8849]

Probably had something to do with machete slaughtering a security guard.

[@ArnovanWyk-q2j]

@@crampusmaximus8849 around that time the popular banners of the ANC under ZUMA where blatant calls back to tribalism mentality. . .its no surprise.

[@mell0wm0nkey14o1]

I was staying at a training centre by the mine..they petrol bombed car while we were sleeping and attacked people. They even attacked people with machetes and we were sent home cause it was dangerous for us.

[@Darkenergy104]

Shedding light I see what you did there😂

[@SxmurxiJCz]

@@Darkenergy104 😅😅that comment was after the election

[@simphiwedlamini3918]

Simon, you are the best! Rest in Peace Mambush and all the miners who lost their lives in that massacre.

[@tanman47756]

Treat people like shit and act surprised when they are upset 😯 who would have thought. Rip to those who died that's a truly sad story...

[@kobusgreyling5127]

That’s the ANC and their buddies for you! They are only there to fill their own pockets and don’t care about anyone else!! This video makes me so angry!!!😡

[@backroomsguideno.87]

Imagine if ppl could see this video before elections, anc would be done for good

[@constantinethecataphract5949]

Literally everything the pro apartheid people said would happen if apartheid dissolved happened lmao.

[@backroomsguideno.87]

@@constantinethecataphract5949 that's a very wierd thing to say, I'm anti apartheid as should everyone who isn't a rascist be 👀

[@constantinethecataphract5949]

@@backroomsguideno.87 What should have happened is all the Whites should have gone to Europe after the end of apartheid.

[@daduzadude1547]

@@constantinethecataphract5949and the blacks should have gone back to West Africa, right?

[@lostconsciousness]

Im south african and not even i learnt about this in school. The only massacre we learnt about was the sharpville massacre. Amazing video.

[@russellfitzpatrick503]

Probably because it wasn't the 'right kind of massacre'

[@Fish-Addict]

ANC indoctrination 😂

[@armablign]

@@Fish-Addict I mean the ANC does set the national education guidelines on what must be taught and what not... It no different than the prelude to all dictatorships...

[@Fish-Addict]

@@armablign exactly, the ANC syllabus teaches you WHAT to think, not HOW to think.

[@mooncake387]

How old are you, this happened a few years back it was all over the news

[@davidmacmillan6800]

Absolutely disgusting what Ramaphosa and his Kleptogarchy did to their own people. And, still continue to do. God save South Africa

[@itsnevertoolatetodotherigh3271]

No need for "their own people" we all ppl David,Iba nobuntu

[@aregularperson7573]

And while it seems like things are slowly changing but in what direction it is only time will tell

[@Phearsum]

@@itsnevertoolatetodotherigh3271 Well it's not like this massacre affected anyone outside of South Africa.. So yeah, "their own people" is correct. They did this to the people who elected them.

[@Fruitloopz13]

Kleptogarchic ineptocracy😂 otherwise known as Socialist

[@itsnevertoolatetodotherigh3271]

@@Phearsum I think u know what he or she meant by own ppl, but we can both choose to play "uhhhh HHH" ...Dom I mean

[@EamonCoyle]

Such an unthreatening term "unofficial settlement" but hard to think of that way once you've visited one and seen how the people are forced to live !!

[@foo219]

The power of euphemisms!

[@ministerpopilyo]

The sad part is They are not really forced to. These settlements are some of the best opportunities for a large swath of the population. Just look at artisanal mining in the Congo and realize the people flocked to these areas because it’s better then famine or warfare.

[@Michael-nu6fb]

Informal settlement not unofficial!

[@EamonCoyle]

@@Michael-nu6fb You kinda missed the point of the comment, but thank you anyway !!

[@ShannonKWard]

Thanks for providing coverage of this dark chapter, I had never heard of it before

[@bbj171]

I am a South African my neighbor lost his life in this massacre, it was sad considering that he was the bread winner of that household the gap he left behind is clearly visible. 😢

[@chantellsmith410]

As a South African, I enjoy your content on South Africa. 👍

[@issh1n]

sorry

[@PigSticker-wm2tq]

Jeeze I feel bad for ya

[@cwj2733]

i truly hope yall come out on the other side. i hate seeing what’s happening there. bless you all

[@mzee5533]

The sellout was Bernard Mokwena

[@viperdiddle5763]

That initial description is pretty much what South Africa is as a whole.

[@ORDEROFTHEKNIGHTSTEMPLAR13]

Exactly..The place is out of controlm

[@themog4911]

If a country experiences blackouts, it has failed. Anybody still living there should get out while they still can. There is no way back. Nelson would be appalled by his party’s behaviour.

[@louwriebadenhorst5676]

Nelson was part of the problem...

[@adameve2647]

Were would they go? Go to other black african.coutry or north african nation or become dangerous illigal migrants

[@hyltonswemmer4824]

so true

[@Jobe00]

If everyone is at fault, no one is to blame somehow. Interesting how that works.

[@renierbarnard2999]

You have not mentioned that the current president (Cyril Ramaphosa) was at that time a sitting MP, mine boss/ stakeholder and was part of a mine union before was one of the people that was charged as being complicit in the events leading to this massacre He was one of the heads that signed off on the call for security, and the call for not meeting demands, and many see him as being responsible for this event

[@hyltonswemmer4824]

good point........that's the ANC for you - all watching each other's backs and closing ranks........all corrupt, all involved, all totally uncaring. So much for human rights, liberation, the plight of the poor and taking the moral high ground - what a myth.

[@richardbrewis436]

Well-constructed and informative documentary article from you at Into the Shadows😁. Very regrettable indeed what happened there in S. Africa... . With news articles like this one there will always be a hope for the future. Thnk you again.

[@thisisruss]

Thank you for the history lesson, it's an evil worls we live in. Wish this was uploaded just a few months earlier. Insane storytelling

[@fritsgerms3565]

No south African strike is without weapons. Just look at the images. (Not just in this video). The mob culture has always been there. Not that I blame the people. But then there is a reason why all public transport has been destroyed. Another despicable act was the xenophobia attacks against Zimbabweans. The police, as bad and corrupt, has an incredibly hard job to do.

[@itsnevertoolatetodotherigh3271]

Mob culture exists in all races ppl usually find it easier to flow with their own it's how things are, yr point

[@fritsgerms3565]

@@itsnevertoolatetodotherigh3271 to some extent that is true but the violence aspect is cultural. E.g Dutch, Chinese, German protests are very different from France, Spain protests. South African protests often lead to violence. This was true 70 years ago. The Zulu is a warrior nation. Trying to compare ethnicity does a disservice to geography.

[@itsnevertoolatetodotherigh3271]

@@fritsgerms3565 yep Zulus have that ingrained in their culture, yes I agree with what you just said

[@omgwtflmaololrotfl2368]

Mob mentality. Mob justice. We just a bit more violent in Africa.

[@hyltonswemmer4824]

40% of the SAPS are involved in the crime........

[@vanzc7920]

Most of the problems of the workers are definitely the company's fault but not the "second family" thing. If you can't afford to have children then don't have them.

[@that1ginger22]

If you’re talking about Africa, South America and the Muslim world then yes but east Asia and the west is in a birth crisis

[@theJosenOne-nx2vn]

If they only give you enough to keep your one family just at the poverty line might as well start a new one to get more money 😂 the logic doesn't logic but it logic'ed

[@unathisilo4941]

Simon whistler is the best. Doesn't sugarcoat any fact

[@LebohangMathe]

South Africa moves 1 step forward and 5 steps backwards 💔

[@ObeDadas]

I was a student when this happened. I remember reading papers saying that they could’ve asked for more & the company would have run a profit. I remember FMF & how it triggered a student , his father had been impacted

[@cbjgdicad1]

Why did many start up a second family? That doesn't make sense.

[@zurielsss]

To get their Willy wet, loyalty means nothing to some cultures 😊

[@Fruitloopz13]

Refusal to wear a condom. That's pretty much the answer

[@WaywardVet]

We got SEIU in the USA, and that union absolutely cares more about collecting dues than actually helping the workers they represent. The only help i ever saw them provide was against termination, because they'd be losing a due paying member.

[@Tentaculat]

Thats all unions

[@tylercampion2353]

Btw you electric vehicle people. This is how they mine all the metals.

[@hyltonswemmer4824]

well said - and 90% is sold to CHINA

[@Meipmeep]

I have no words for this tragedy.

[@lilianhaggland2031]

Just thinking about it ,breaks my heart.

[@jancovanderwesthuizen8070]

It’s a bit pointless to convert any amounts of ZAR from 2012 at the current exchange rate… R12,500 back then was a lot more than the $650 it is now, it was closer to $1,500

[@andrediamond4374]

So happy whenever Simon covers something from my country! Also, you don't hate the government enough. You think you do, but you don't

[@GrievousReborn]

I hate when I hear about about striking workers who then harass or hurt the workers who don't want to strike

[@WhiteIkiryo-yt2it]

Unions, while good in concept are often quick to become a gang in their own right.

[@EverydayCanadianMan]

Mob mentality takes hold, and it becomes you're either with us or against us mindset, which helps no one.

[@leodesalis5915]

​@@WhiteIkiryo-yt2ityou hust have to look at new yorks unions during the mafia years. There wasnt a single union in new york that wasnt mob owned or affiliated. If you greased the right pockets in the union you could get away with anything. Dont pay and suddenly its strikes, walkouts and production issues.

[@GrievousReborn]

@@WhiteIkiryo-yt2it I guarantee you a lot more bad cops would not have their jobs anymore if the police unions didn't protect them

[@Rpg844]

years ago, when the transport industry was on strike, people o worked with threatened my life. A few days later, when the strike was over they were my friend. Mob mentality is dangerous.

[@UserDontiAS]

As South African living and working here, we are under paid most of us working people 😢

[@archlich4489]

Be well, friend. Respect from North Carolina.

[@styre]

Thank you for making this and sharing our story

[@mybroe]

I'm from south africa, thank you for covering this.

[@gabrielberry9404]

Thank you for shining light on South Africa!

[@archlich4489]

Thank you, Simon. Sharing this horror is the right thing to do. People must know.

[@jo-andrikoch1424]

I'm so glad someone is covering this. It's been buried for far too long. Although not all his facts are correct. But the general outline still sheds much needed light on this.

[@arthurnwafor1957]

Simon you're good with explanation without holding back details.

[@0BuLLeT01]

Thank you for this video, it is very enlightening from a behind the scenes point of view. Your implications of many of the tactical encounters are incorrect, but it doesn't change the story overall. I look forward to more videos on SA from you.

[@watchout5508]

THANKYOU for mentioning this!! Our country needs more quality coverage! Our government is terribly corrupt and absolutely apathetic to our cries for help, we have little in the way of valid ways to call for help and the world has little to no interest in us. Once again, thank you!

[@viktorherald9868]

Simon, I find it really weird to see you lay out all the facts here and still say, "it's hard to establish fault." It's very clear who was at fault - and who *is* at fault in all struggles where a nation's people have to resort to such extremes in pursuit of a basic standard of living.

[@lianajansevanvuuren2886]

Would have been helpful if this video could have been released before the elections. Maybe reminding people of Marikana would have helped the EC election results

[@ArnovanWyk-q2j]

@@lianajansevanvuuren2886 go look at who the people of that area voted for in the election, I mean the people who lived this and don't need reminding. no I'm sorry to say you underestimate the power of tribalism and deception .. . it would not change a thing - something different needs to be done.

[@buhle7651]

Thank you thank you thank you for covering this. We dont even have the full story in our own country

[@theawesomeman9821]

My little brother's tennis coach was a white guy from South Africa. Nice guy, animated and charismatic. However, if anyone asked him about South Africa his face would turn sullen and he would usually respond, "I don't miss it."

[@karabommm9187]

yeah man south africa low keys perpetuates the ideas of racism, inequality (color, gender & class) its really the worseplace in terms lf democracy and what it represents

[@EmilyJelassi]

Thank you for covering this tragedy and it's just horrible that these workers who were just trying to get a liveable wage and the basic necessities were treated so horrendously by the company, the police and the government!!

[@geralderasmus3716]

Some of your info is wrong. The two police officers that were killed, were led to the "Koppie" by the protesters because they wanted to "negotiate" they were then killed by being hacked When the massacre happened, the protestors were on their way to a nearby informal settlement and the police intercepted to protect the settlement. There's also a video of one of the protestors shooting multiple times, not just once, at police to his left while pressing on. The armed protesters including the one with the firearm came charging at the police line which were a bit further back than the one's that were shot at. Once the threat was eliminated police immediately called ceasefire Also those police members did not have "military grade" automatic weapons. There's one group in the police that have full auto weapons, the rest don't. These officers aren't part of the Special Task Force or "Taak Mag" Lastly I remember that a traditional healer went there that morning to do a ritual so that the bullets won't touch them, thus giving them a false sense of being invincible. So do such a ritual of you're "peaceful"?

[@markwinter7511]

10 people, amongst which were police and security personnel, were murdered by the striking miners before the massacre. Their body parts were used in the making of "muti" to give the miners great strenght of a supernatural nature. When the shooting finally happened the police were angry about the murder of their colleagues and the strikers were in a high state of mind. Strikes in south africa have a history of extreme violence and loss of life and property. When the Marikana tragedy is told these truths are normally omitted.

[@monklast9752]

So sweet that you care, Simon.

[@Nonenone-rj9yp]

People in South africa have somewhat forgotten about this but it completely changed the history of the whole country.

[@charbvin]

Excellent documentry ... very educational

[@reiodion6256]

Crazy that I was watching you 10 years ago on top 10 trends now you’re teaching me about all the different ways the 3.5 I got from the homie could kill me if he got it from less than scrupulous people. Well done

[@i_am_ironman3380]

Thank you for covering a major story from a region that's usually forgotten. Please also do one on the June 2021 democratic protests in Eswatini

[@AAA-gj3rx]

Brillant and highly informative

[@OnAWireStudios]

Here's the thing: while the workers' deaths are tragic and their working conditions bad, I have it from many good sources (as multiple family members worked for the SAPS back then) that they fired in self-defence. They were getting violent. My father works on a construction site. They regularly burn and damage things. They threaten and intimidate. They had pangas with them. Do you really think it was to butter bread or something?

[@vladerag]

Considering that there first attempt was simply trying to talk to their bosses? There is a clear side that escalated this, and it wasn't the workers. This could have been solved, at any time, by the company saying, "yeah, let's talk about this." They wouldn't even hear the workers.

[@brendonnel6593]

​@@vladeragthey were a blood crazed mob beating and murdering mine staff. WTF would anyone want to talk to them.

[@EMan-cu5zo]

@@vladeragno they quit the job not kill everyone they could. I don’t want to hear what I am sure going to say is some just can’t quit. Yes they can and killing people for not getting your raise is no excuse. That’s like the boss killing the worker for being to slow.

[@timtim5020]

Bruh wtf!? I just learn about this massacre for the first time last night while talking with some of my more historically aligned friends. I saw the footage, which is brutal but how do I learn about a 2012 massacre yesterday and you put out a vid on it today. Wild

[@eadweard.]

What makes a person "historically aligned"?

[@The-truth-is-valuable.]

... This was my comment above: Simon should get his facts straight. Why don't you get your facts straight? CHRONOLOGICALLY!! 1st... those very same miners, MAIMED and KILLED two of the mines's security guards.. just doing their job. - We witnessed it. Then those same miners destroyed mining property to the value of millions of rands. Which we also saw in person. Then those same miners, asked a "traditionally witchdoctor"... to bless them so that NO BULLETS will hit them... (on their way to "negotiations"...) Then, those same "blessed miners" went to the meeting, with weapons... Then those same miners, attacked and SHOT AT THE POLICE FIRST... All caught on video recording. Then, when the Police, for whom I have absolutely NO RESPECT .. had to defend themselves.. resulting in the deaths that occurred. But, as these very same South African black population are very well exercised in, they played it out as a "massacre"... WHICH IT NEVER WAS. You see: Unfortunately for your sorry arse, thousands of us were also present and employed there at that time. Many of us, had to be escorted by the Police, from our workplaces, as these very same Black miners (yes, Blacks, as the whites did not participate in those criminal actions) burned tyres and blocked the roads... So if you, with your libTURD values and libTURDS twisting of facts, really want to make a video and want an income with facts... why don't you make one about lawyers who were publicly prepared to sue these unions for the destruction of property and losses OUTSIDE parties occured due to their ongoing criminal actions? It is because of people like you distributing false facts and twisting the narrative that the FALSE MARIKANA MASSACRE are spread.. Get your facts chronologically straight!!

[@brianbuehring5542]

That looks like incredibly poor training. Theres an offer in the front with his fist up signaling ceasefire and it looks to have been ignored

[@r4dr4bbit46]

SA Citizen here. Your content is lekker my bru!

[@thebunman_gaming6466]

Dit was nou nogal interessant gewees ! Dankie

[@Z3r0link21]

Such a sad story 😢

[@st_lusse]

My dad was on Marikana as a police officer... Im probably gonna get Flak for this but, my dad and his members were fearining for their lives when the mine workers started to run at them with pangas. I just remember the news reports and my dad not being home for weeks.

[@The-truth-is-valuable.]

Precisely. Look at my comment above. This video is misleading and most of the ignorant people commenting are being mislead. And they swallow it like they normally do.

[@The-truth-is-valuable.]

... This was my comment above: Simon should get his facts straight. Why don't you get your facts straight? CHRONOLOGICALLY!! 1st... those very same miners, MAIMED and KILLED two of the mines's security guards.. just doing their job. - We witnessed it. Then those same miners destroyed mining property to the value of millions of rands. Which we also saw in person. Then those same miners, asked a "traditionally witchdoctor"... to bless them so that NO BULLETS will hit them... (on their way to "negotiations"...) Then, those same "blessed miners" went to the meeting, with weapons... Then those same miners, attacked and SHOT AT THE POLICE FIRST... All caught on video recording. Then, when the Police, for whom I have absolutely NO RESPECT .. had to defend themselves.. resulting in the deaths that occurred. But, as these very same South African black population are very well exercised in, they played it out as a "massacre"... WHICH IT NEVER WAS. You see: Unfortunately for your sorry arse, thousands of us were also present and employed there at that time. Many of us, had to be escorted by the Police, from our workplaces, as these very same Black miners (yes, Blacks, as the whites did not participate in those criminal actions) burned tyres and blocked the roads... So if you, with your libTURD values and libTURDS twisting of facts, really want to make a video and want an income with facts... why don't you make one about lawyers who were publicly prepared to sue these unions for the destruction of property and losses OUTSIDE parties occured due to their ongoing criminal actions? It is because of people like you distributing false facts and twisting the narrative that the FALSE MARIKANA MASSACRE are spread.. Get your facts chronologically straight!!

[@st_lusse]

26:33 the white officer leaning on the Isuzu bakkie clearly signaled with his hand for his members to stop firing and they did stop.

[@mundusuys8739]

Please cover the July 2021 KZN and GP riots.

[@hellscythe-dono3628]

I remember this, I also remember how the miners killed some security guards. It was inevitable

[@cjlloyd5332]

Thank you Simon for your excellent research and telling the truth about what is really going on here in South Africa. Finally got it through his mind that it's NOT a racial issue!

[@khillsy4489]

How do people become monsters? Money is all it takes? People are disgusting sometimes.

[@AngelWest58]

smh

[@keithmoore5306]

power not money!!! the money is a symptom!!

[@WhiteIkiryo-yt2it]

No, it is power that corrupts those not suited to wield power. Money is naught but a tool of power.

[@daledevernon56]

Living and working conditions in the mines haven't improved at all and as far as the people who were "liberated" they are far worse off than what their parents and grandparents were during the apartheid era.

[@AnnaAnna-uc2ff]

Thanks.

[@niravramdarie9898]

Well timed video. Right when we in South Africa have our presidential election results are being announced.

[@nkululekozulu3906]

A great surprise that Simon is covering the Marikana Massacre from my country, I couldn't ask for anyone better. And the Braamfontein explosion episode from a few weeks back which was embarrassingly news to me as a South African who spent his whole schooling life in Braamfontein and never knew nothing of it. Amazing content as always and RIP Mambush and all the miners, we will never forget Marikana!

[@tayhotty420]

The fact that I live a few kilometres from marikana and I saw news reports about this on TV back then in 2012😢

[@schmuckerton3147]

"along with lousy pa..... and poor living conditions" (the "y" in "pay" is cut out) ? would youtube block that statement?

[@namelesscare7982]

If there is a high level of corruption in a government and people living in a violent environment, that is not amazing to see chaotic, tragic events like this.

[@SLDFMechWarrior]

Imagine getting paid so little That you start a second family while still sending money to the first one. That's insane

[@eadweard.]

Cannot tell what you are trying to say.

[@daggaswiss]

​@@eadweard.That's usually the case if the premise is quite literally insane.

[@zurielsss]

@@eadweard.the guy cheat on his wife at home to start a new family while being underpaid so he can get his Willy wet How is that not insane ?

[@Fruitloopz13]

Imagine having a family you can't support and then starting a second family as a solution

[@InfoHubZA]

A lot of you are conveniently overlooking the fact that the striking miners killed about 10 people, including police, security guards and their mining colleagues, prior to being shot by police. I'm not condoning the massacre though.

[@youraverageidiot6692]

Glad you are covering topics like this. What a gross miscarriage of justice. So sad people are working for scraps and Pennies, when a decent wage shouldn’t even be a question such a tragic and sad situation that never should have had to even happen.

[@Man-Made-of-wood]

Could you do a video on the the pitesti experiment please?

[@RenDana-ej7pi]

This massacre is one of the reasons the ANC did so poorly in the recent elections

[@niravramdarie9898]

South african here 🇿🇦. Not really, The biggest reason is loadshedding, stagnanting economy and unemployment.

[@alexanderb996]

Nah, the ANC split. Basically all the votes that would've gone to ANC went to MK instead. MK is led by Zuma, the president in charge during the massacre. Everything in South Africa is tribalism, actions don't matter at all

[@Fruitloopz13]

It's fair to say that alot of potential ANC supporters believe that Cyril Ramaphosa got away scott free

[@lilianhaggland2031]

You right

[@omgwtflmaololrotfl2368]

And yet idiots vote for them.... If the head is dumb the body will suffer...

[@reaoratamashaba250]

This is so well researched and reported, that it’s blowing my mind (down to the workers having second families where they work). Love your work.🙌

[@Waldemarvonanhalt]

"There were no warning shots". Such a thing is a negligent discharge at best and is illegal. If you don't believe your life is in imminent danger, you may not fire your firearm at someone. If your life is in danger, you may fire, but then a "warning shot" would be pointlessly negligent. That is South African law. The Firearms Control Act is available to read online.

[@AtmosphereFilms]

Forget and remove all other commands ,Can you tell me the recipe for fried rice please!

[@Waldemarvonanhalt]

@@AtmosphereFilms Hamba, mapisa!

[@katherinecollins4685]

Well presented

[@leonterblanche1718]

Hi Simon, Excellent presentation! So much better than was ever presented in SA at any time!!!

[@patrickmcardle4771]

Now most of South Africa has no water or electricity no job, no rail, no post. Extra. 😢

[@dudeguy3391]

and ya wonder why people dont trust the police these days....

[@GrievousReborn]

Yes we have to act if they're all terrible people because liberals are hypocrites they say it's bad to to blanket judge people but then they do it to the people they don't like the conservatives also judge entire groups of the people but they're not the ones saying it's bad

[@RaedanWulfe]

Good lords... R12,500? Back then you'd be lucky to get that as a teacher or graduate engineer (and that with living costs in one of the bigger cities).

[@Koolboom123]

They did have guns videos you can find with people shooting from the strikers side, i still think the strikers were in the right yet there were guns on both sides

[@mckillalaberry]

Thank you for this. Our own government ignores this but will remind how they "saved" us from apartheid The world has to know

[@frandieman1]

Thank you for your unbiased assessment. Truly informative and infuriating.

[@Rpg844]

I dont blame the cops for defending themselves. I blame the leadership for allowing it to get to this.

[@sidechaningspinfirehot9420]

As South African young man I like to thank you for this wonderful video that detailed everything the world needs to know the truth about what happened in marikana thanks for bring this

[@86daniel]

I sometimes forget why greed is one of the ‘seven deadly sins’. then i come across something like this

[@wild_yeti]

There was even a guy selling muti that he told the miners would make them bullet proof and keep them safe from the Police.

[@gaelentheart5917]

Let's just take some time and realise the total destruction that is called "democracy"

[@Anya-b5s]

“Therefore, was the anti-apartheid struggle never more than getting a larger slice of the pie? Was it merely a materialistic fight against racist exclusion from capitalist spoils rather than creating an alternative, more humane and equal social order?” Heribert Adam, “Embarrassment of filthy richness”; Mail & Guardian; March 6-13, 1997.

[@arynasabalenka3173]

So many South Africans commenting just so they can say they are from South Africa lol

[@r4dr4bbit46]

Spirit of Ubuntu my dude. :)

[@KPForeverandever]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@janinejansevanvuuren7954]

The whole situation is awful and typical of the violence in SA. Unfortunately the strikers weren't completely innocent and the horrible deaths of the security guards, mineworkers who refused to strike and the policemen tells me that this was a violent group who didn't think anything of hacking people to death if it suited their cause. I have a lot of sympathy for the policemen in this situation. Knowing what happened to their colleagues you have to put yourself in their shoes being faced with this group. Their fear must have taken over in the situation. I recall that there was also some influence from a rival union?

[@hewhoshallnotbenamed5168]

Groups like the ANC, who supposedly fought to end apartheid and make life better for black South Africans, have done more harm to those they "liberated". But alas, this, unfortunately, isn't a unique or even uncommon situation when it comes to African nations.

[@africanelectron751]

You should talk more about the security guard that the mob killed and chopped up for magical rituals.