The Masters Of Power: Inside TrainingPeaks

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TrainingPeaks began in 1999 with the goal of making it easier for cyclists to work with their coaches and help them understand their training. Since then, they've helped pros go on to win the Tour de France, and helped beginners become hours faster, but just how do they do it, and what are the benefits of working with TrainingPeaks? Manon is in the US at the TrainingPeaks HQ to find out!
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@gcn
@gcn Жыл бұрын
Have you ever had a coach? Let us know your experiences down below!👇
@Choedron
@Choedron Жыл бұрын
I coach triathletes and use TrainingPeaks. I have specialised in athletes, who struggling with minor health problems or physical limitations and above 50 athletes. I have coached Ironman and half Ironman athletes as well as ordinary bike athletes. It is a really good way to communicate and follow athletes progress.
@thebelly925
@thebelly925 Жыл бұрын
Balance Coaching with Caroline Mani. It’s not often you get to learn from a 5x Elite Women’s National Champion.
@aleq
@aleq Жыл бұрын
Tim Cusick has lots of amazing insights about coaching and if you are using WKO5, which is TrainingPeaks on steroids and integrates nicely with training peaks as they are or previously were the same company. Watch Tim’s videos on KZbin for lots of training goodness!
@mbahdol.2674
@mbahdol.2674 Жыл бұрын
@@Choedron mereka
@emiljarengrim2536
@emiljarengrim2536 Жыл бұрын
1:37 What I like most about Manon is how humble she is! 😂
@inizan_cc
@inizan_cc Жыл бұрын
Oliver Bridgewood 830w 20min haha
@gcn
@gcn Жыл бұрын
Only thing he's dropping now is watts!
@chrisridesbicycles
@chrisridesbicycles Жыл бұрын
Such a show off. 😂
@JZ-xu3vg
@JZ-xu3vg Жыл бұрын
my geni can do that all day, not impressive.
@ishanpatel8602
@ishanpatel8602 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂🤯
@huttonsdubai411
@huttonsdubai411 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 I had a laugh when I saw that too
@andrewmeyer2300
@andrewmeyer2300 Жыл бұрын
I had a coach 20 yrs ago, heart rate based training. Best thing I ever did, performance increased significantly. Now self-training w power, “canned” training programs & TrainingPeaks (TP). It’s amazing but I now have more questions than answers. Next step is to hire a coach who’s very familiar with using TP to analyze training results and use it to develop my personalized training.
@aleq
@aleq Жыл бұрын
Use TrainingPeaks daily and love it. Hope they will add strength training into it as well so I can track progression and schedule both on and off the bike on single calendar.
@ethangodridge6833
@ethangodridge6833 Жыл бұрын
Thanks TrainingPeaks and Manon. Excellently presented as usual.
@gcn
@gcn Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Ethan! Glad you enjoyed the video :)
@alexandersnider734
@alexandersnider734 Жыл бұрын
Manon video means its gonna be a good day
@gcn
@gcn Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video, Alexander!
@nattyb7898
@nattyb7898 Жыл бұрын
No never had a coach, love to be fortunate one day to have one of the best to train me. 🙂🙏🏾
@jonlee7440
@jonlee7440 Жыл бұрын
2:19 Is it just me questioning the Peak Performance?? 😕
@germanlondono8700
@germanlondono8700 Жыл бұрын
No, those certainly are actual Ollie's numbers, he's a beast.
@bobzuidema3560
@bobzuidema3560 Жыл бұрын
This helped starting to wrap my head around TP, thanks!
@gcn
@gcn Жыл бұрын
Glad we could help you, Bob! Hopefully you'll see more gains now!
@Hopperstien
@Hopperstien Жыл бұрын
this video couldn't have been any better timed for me! 10 weeks out from my first sprint Tri!
@todddeboer4241
@todddeboer4241 Жыл бұрын
As an avid cyclist using Training Peaks, and a professional music educator frequently using both Make Music and Alfred products, Peaksware gets lots of $$$ from me. Much more than I ever realized!!
@cb6866
@cb6866 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Manon..very interesting stuff.
@gcn
@gcn Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@markmoreno7295
@markmoreno7295 Жыл бұрын
Wow. Very interesting. Obviously Manon was well prepared and knew exactly what to ask.
@nihanab
@nihanab Жыл бұрын
Well, I’m sure she didn’t get the questions from training peaks… Nevertheless, clearly marked as an advert and still interesting but I wish the questions would have been less obviously scripted from TP.
@bryguy6509
@bryguy6509 Жыл бұрын
@@nihanab I mean, it looked like he had to seriously think about some of the questions. I'm sure it was a pick and pull of various questions from topics but also some of her own. If GCN wants to survive long-term they have to get payments to go interview some people. Despite him paying for it, I found it pretty interesting. Plus I love when a GCN presenter comes to good ol' US of A. I'd like to see something with Garmin at some point, but I realize Wahoo throws GCN money hand over fist. Might be a non-compete clause, who knows. But I would love something similar with the fitness team at Garmin.
@ChrisGuarraia
@ChrisGuarraia Жыл бұрын
Biggest revelation of this video: the two sister companies to TrainingPeaks that focus on music-AlfredMusic and MakeMusic. As both a cyclist and a French hornist, I’ve gotta check them out.
@gcn
@gcn Жыл бұрын
You learn something new everyday! 🤷‍♂️
@NeilLavitt
@NeilLavitt Жыл бұрын
Seems like a seriously great guy! These videos that Manon has done in the US are some of the best GCN videos for some time. Well done to that crew.
@manon-lloyd
@manon-lloyd Жыл бұрын
Thanks Neil!
@sfss1918
@sfss1918 Жыл бұрын
@@manon-lloyd u are the best presenter
@frazergoodwin4945
@frazergoodwin4945 Жыл бұрын
I too love getting that flood of notifications of records in early January 🙂
@desomweller5638
@desomweller5638 Жыл бұрын
I was looking for a training app. I wasn't sure whether to go for Training Peaks without comparing it to the now many existing competitors but this video convinced me to go with TP. I do value the connection to a coach, which is missing from the other apps. I love Manon too, she's indeed the best GCN presenter (even though I do also like Si and Ollie :-))
@zalethciano
@zalethciano Жыл бұрын
Manon is the best GCN presenter!
@shawnsee2688
@shawnsee2688 Жыл бұрын
This is awesome. And according to the site, prices are fair.
@ltu42
@ltu42 Жыл бұрын
Do a video on GoldenCheetah!
@danielgaldames1163
@danielgaldames1163 Жыл бұрын
I doubt they will make one I don't think GC are willing to pay
@andybrown141
@andybrown141 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this informative video. I plan to subscribe to their premium plan to help improve my general fitness and plan workouts.
@parenthlete
@parenthlete Жыл бұрын
This might be a placed commercial but it’s a great one ! Makes me want to go get a coach 😂
@gcn
@gcn Жыл бұрын
It's a great idea if you want to make the most out of your performance :)
@relaxedtriathlon7095
@relaxedtriathlon7095 Жыл бұрын
I use and like it as well but it hast it‘s problems (especially working with no coach). The key challenge is that there no extrapolated musculare fatigue. For example a very short crispy Intervall ride comboned with a mid intense strengh training can end up in being musculary bustet though TP tells you „all fine - load was okey tomorrow you kight train as usual“. As experienced athlete no problem but as beginner the wrong prediction crashes some group rides maybe.
@rgh622
@rgh622 Жыл бұрын
So as an individual user, will this app provide coaching or just a compilation of data? Thanks for the video GCN!
@gcn
@gcn Жыл бұрын
So as an individual user, both! You can get a compilation of data, and then hire a coach to help you understand it, and help you get fitter using that data :)
@Choedron
@Choedron Жыл бұрын
You can buy many different training plans through TrainingPeaks, which you can add and remove to the calendar at any date. So you do not need a coach, if you are very much on top of your training yourself. And you can make your own plans and workouts to save for reuse etc. For instance base training plan, build plan and speciality plan, which you can save and use year after year when you get to that time of the year. Since the workouts are based on % of your FTP, then the plans will scale when you improve your FTP. And you can make changes to your plans. Therefore they will never become obsolete.
@robertbachmann1573
@robertbachmann1573 Жыл бұрын
How does TrainingPeaks handle illness (e.g. flu) - or injury-prone cyclists? Do they have special training programs for such people? How about guidance on food and recovery?
@anthonyallen3614
@anthonyallen3614 Жыл бұрын
Hello sir good night i would like you to come to Jamaica
@kasior89g
@kasior89g Жыл бұрын
1:46 😂😂😂 fully agree 😁
@andreemurray7039
@andreemurray7039 Жыл бұрын
Don't have apower meter so can you help?
@gcn
@gcn Жыл бұрын
Hi Andree, yes, if you have a heart rate monitor instead, they can still help you :)
@OlegsKop
@OlegsKop Жыл бұрын
#AskGCNtech# Hi guys! Do you know, why top tube, mainly, is not horisontal any more? Problem for me is, that with inclained top tube, there is no room for bag inside frame, otherwise can not fit 0,7L bottles for long rides, where people actualy would need space for this bag. (My frames is 50-52 cm) As saddle position is higher than steering bar, i see that there is no problem to have top tube horisontal, exept, it add weight for frame. As found, it add aero gain. As for me, horisontal tube add classic beauty as well. Please, raise this topic, I believe, you can influence frame producers.
@chrisridesbicycles
@chrisridesbicycles Жыл бұрын
If someone from Training Peaks is reading the comments: Can you please make a subscribable calendar but only with the races/events on the schedule or better completely configureable.
@gwhockett
@gwhockett Жыл бұрын
Damage control ad. We all mire in the wake of Dr. Stephen Seiler.
@obikedog
@obikedog Жыл бұрын
Those are some impressive numbers for Mr Bridgeworth @2:18! 830w!! 20min power = 788w FTP!? Lol. Might need to calibrate that power meter!
@beyond8981
@beyond8981 Жыл бұрын
Are those numbers for real ?
@madsnrrevang4455
@madsnrrevang4455 Жыл бұрын
@@beyond8981 No, looks like he is having some trouble with his power meter
@davepratt9909
@davepratt9909 Жыл бұрын
Ollie is jealous that Manon got to do this interview. 😜
@bryguy6509
@bryguy6509 Жыл бұрын
That's funny and probably true. Ollie is a madman for analytics.
@ricf9592
@ricf9592 Жыл бұрын
My Garmin reports section declared a couple of months back that I was 'peaking'. VO2 Max 77.0. A race then? Nope. Major surgery instead.
@joselozano7475
@joselozano7475 Жыл бұрын
There is one issue with TSS calculation in training peaks. This is a intensity metric and not a stress metric. For example, it doesn't have the same stress on the body to do a 10 min threshold interval at the beginning of a session than after 150km on a race. Training peaks calculate the same TSS for those 2 very different efforts and this is not correct. I think it is a great tool but be careful how you use it and always follow your feelings first.
@rotation-y2n
@rotation-y2n Жыл бұрын
But it measures the part that came before? There isint suddenly a higher physiological cost by doing efforts at the end of a session
@joselozano7475
@joselozano7475 Жыл бұрын
@@rotation-y2n of course there is a physiological cost because you are already under very high fatigue. For instance running a marathon on an Ironman has much higher training stress than running a stand alone marathon (at the same pace) but trainingpeaks will calculate the same TSS
@rotation-y2n
@rotation-y2n Жыл бұрын
@@joselozano7475 well if you are under fatigue you slow down... So it's the same or lower
@rotation-y2n
@rotation-y2n Жыл бұрын
@@joselozano7475 you seriously think you can do the same powers fatigued as fresh?!
@joselozano7475
@joselozano7475 Жыл бұрын
@@rotation-y2n it is not about how much you can do but the one you actually do. That same intensity has higher stress to the body under high fatigue conditions but Trainingpeaks will assign the same TSS. That is why I say is an intensity score and not stress score.
@nanmontoya_
@nanmontoya_ Жыл бұрын
Tell them to ban VO2 max sessions 😂😂
@konstantinwilleke6292
@konstantinwilleke6292 Жыл бұрын
I like and use TrainingPeaks, I've bought multiple training plans, and I generally liked this video. But all the data that can be seen throughout this video is ridiculous. Let's have a look at 09:50. Top right plot - the critical power curve. Someone did 900 Watts for 20 minutes. Well, somebody probably just strapped a power meter to a horse. Whoever came up with that idea is a stable genius I guess. Also, again, same timestamp. Let's have a look at the TSS: 9h ride, 1365 TSS. That means that the whole 9h were ridden at 125% FTP. That's impressive even for a WorldTour horse.
@Horstelin
@Horstelin Жыл бұрын
I guess you haven't met the god of cycling, Oliver Bridgewood yet?
@germanlondono8700
@germanlondono8700 Жыл бұрын
Don't get worked up about it. I think is better to have an outrageous example just to make a point, something impossible, just for the sake of the explanation, than showing actual data. Also, I cackled with the horse comment, it was genius.
@gcn
@gcn Жыл бұрын
Ollie Bridgewood is a unit, he'll have you believe...
@konstantinwilleke6292
@konstantinwilleke6292 Жыл бұрын
@@gcn I actually missed the name of the rider :D Well played, and kudos to Stallion Bridgewood for his power numbers
@chrisridesbicycles
@chrisridesbicycles Жыл бұрын
Husky dog with 240 VO2max smiles mildly.
@williamhilliard7386
@williamhilliard7386 Жыл бұрын
Olli's trying to destroy his bick.
@harimathur2191
@harimathur2191 Жыл бұрын
Cheapo Golden Cheetah anyone?
@Robby1503
@Robby1503 Жыл бұрын
20min best 830w i want to know who this was
@alexandersnider734
@alexandersnider734 Жыл бұрын
Also hi Ollie
@hotsky83
@hotsky83 Жыл бұрын
That's not what TP stands for...
@timtaylor9590
@timtaylor9590 Жыл бұрын
his "then" parents? so he got new parents
@fchau6019
@fchau6019 Жыл бұрын
He's a former cycling pro. Not an English language pro. 😂
@darinsteele7091
@darinsteele7091 Жыл бұрын
probably means his parents are dead
@endurancesweat
@endurancesweat Жыл бұрын
Paralysis Analysis
@kojie333
@kojie333 Жыл бұрын
First
@malaysiadentist4637
@malaysiadentist4637 Жыл бұрын
Fourth!
@timtaylor9590
@timtaylor9590 Жыл бұрын
riding with tech and numbers made my rides so much worse, it hinders performance, progress, and takes away all the fun. just go out and ride with faster ppl thats the best way to train.
@veganpotterthevegan
@veganpotterthevegan 8 ай бұрын
Trash advice. If you're not having fun, then don't do it but it's the best way to improve
@timtaylor9590
@timtaylor9590 8 ай бұрын
@@veganpotterthevegan only pros should worry about exact numbers. Everyone else is just a bum trying to massage their ego. Speed, technique, athleticism, race IQ, and Results matter not a number some nerd gets sitting upright inside.
@veganpotterthevegan
@veganpotterthevegan 8 ай бұрын
@timtaylor9590 you're ridiculous. Everyone can want to be their best and having wattage is the best way to do that
@timtaylor9590
@timtaylor9590 8 ай бұрын
@@veganpotterthevegan yeap it's just more bs to keep the money flowing until the lactate shit takes over. Just like keytones more bs. Guys who are winning would still win without power meters. Now there's a whole new category of riders the nerds who race inside analyzing numbers sitting upright and can't ride for shit, and they dump thousands of dollars. And for what? It's laughable.
@timtaylor9590
@timtaylor9590 8 ай бұрын
@@veganpotterthevegan you want to be faster use those blood doping worms that aren't detectable or harmful. And they're not thousands of dollars and give real gains.
@bionicgeff
@bionicgeff Жыл бұрын
Just ride slow 2 times a week zone 2, and you can ride like a zwift idiot for the rest. There training done. And lay off donuts
@wilsonruns3381
@wilsonruns3381 Жыл бұрын
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