Black widow’s character arc is the biggest missed opportunity of the MCU as a whole
@emszies83035 ай бұрын
And sharon carter
@Chillipeffer5 ай бұрын
and Maria Hill
@sbrickproductions4 ай бұрын
And in my opinion taskmaster
@ADSadachbia4 ай бұрын
I really expected something better but not even blaming it on quarantine that can be excused
@noseriouslyimserious40734 ай бұрын
And Scarlet Witch. WTF was with the ending of WandaVision. WTF was up with Dr Strange MOM?
@SpammytheHedgehog5 ай бұрын
The MCU killed off the best female character. *Black Widow*
@chasehedges67755 ай бұрын
THIS💯💯💯
@TeenPerspektiva5 ай бұрын
Frrr i liked her so much, she was awesome.... man 😪
@tylerdurden7885 ай бұрын
Agreed. First avengers when she finds out about Hawkeye is one of my favorite moments @TeenPerspektiva
@changvasejarik625 ай бұрын
True, though I think they missed some potential by not including the original Claire Voyant black widow.
@timewarpdrive775 ай бұрын
I liked Gamora more
@xnet_cascade62575 ай бұрын
This is something the MCU cannot comprehend for some reason; Not every character needs to be funny. Like you said about Black Widow, in the comics she’s basically a female John Wick, in the mcu they gave her way too many quips and jokes that feel out of place.
@ninjanibba42595 ай бұрын
Lord….not every assassin needs to be called a John Wick type I wish people would stop using this cuz he’s honestly overrated and got ruined
@xnet_cascade62575 ай бұрын
@@ninjanibba4259 cry more
@ninjanibba42595 ай бұрын
@@xnet_cascade6257 cope more
@aanchalkawale25555 ай бұрын
@@ninjanibba4259 It's just a reference dude. He is among the most well known assasins. Same as James bond or Ethan hunt for spies.
@ninjanibba42595 ай бұрын
@@aanchalkawale2555 both are much better written characters than Wick
@RonniV25 ай бұрын
It wasn't until Black Widow's solo movie that i realized that Marvel failed her. I think her being a side character in all the other films kind of hid the flaws/contrasting elements of her story. I was expecting her movie to be a mission impossible style Spy movie that shows her abilities that we never got in the "main" movies. Instead, it was a generic superhero movie that honestly didn't make much sense for her character. Needless to say, I'm disappointed with the direction they took with her, and she deserved better smh.
@petermj10985 ай бұрын
Black Widow in Endgame: “The Avengers are the only family I have” Black Widow in her movie: Has her own family outside the Avengers. Her movie ruins the fact Black Widow sacrificed herself for the Avengers cause she saw the Avengers as the only family she had in life. Hawkeye and Cap cried over her death in Endgame thinking she was the only people she saw as family. Now there is not as much weight to it anymore when they retconned it.
@RonniV25 ай бұрын
@petermj1098 Exactly. I honestly wouldn't mind this whole "spy family" aspect if they just executed it better. One way for that would definitely be for that movie to not be a shoe horned midquel thing that comes after the character died off (duh). It was just such a letdown because, once again, they had a lot of potential for her character and they just didn't really do much with it smh.
@juanbisonosuero36504 ай бұрын
Something to obtain when you compare Black widow with almost every appearance she has in her solo movie it's not a spy trailer it's just a random insane action movie the only thing close to a spy element on the whole thing is the fact that she does another interrogation scene and even that was pathetic
@juanbisonosuero36504 ай бұрын
@@petermj1098you know I don't hate that Hawkeye TV show it was meandering at best but it wasn't that bad that being said I think it did some damage to the character of Clint apparently he knew about Jelena and apparently in some point nat told him to look for her but no he didn't do that he decided to go to the Opera with his family and celebrate Christmas and I guess hope that Yelena in some point goes to him?
@fishertheadore60954 ай бұрын
Nah, she didn't. she had No Business on the Avengers in the First place. Why is a Spy on the Avengers, that's like James Bond being on the Avengers it makes No Sense. And that's *James Bond.*
@KaiqueFrias5 ай бұрын
Rhodey at least has military training
@ArcTrooper2695 ай бұрын
To be fair, Rhodey was one of the FEW characters that the CUM got right, (at least before the A.I. Generated Trash that came in 2023)
@KaiqueFrias5 ай бұрын
@@ArcTrooper269 all jokes aside good point
@SWANSWAN-nc7ds5 ай бұрын
@@ArcTrooper269 And they vegetable him , his relationship with Tony and experience in the military can make him a way better iron man than that annoying teen brat iron man wannabe
@supermodestmouse5 ай бұрын
@@ArcTrooper269 he was great until secret wars retconned him and said he was just a skrull this whole time.
@Wolffman1095 ай бұрын
@@ArcTrooper269 What's CUM? I don't know what movie that is.
@GT_rising245 ай бұрын
Betty's absence is another reason why i feel like Ruffalo's Hulk should have been a full reboot
@ArcTrooper2695 ай бұрын
@@GT_rising24 I mean, if they recasted Bruce why didn't recasting Betty aswell? Jon Kent, Sara Lance & Rachel Dawes are the main proof that recasts are allowed if the characters are still needed when the actor leaves
@sudeeptoshoron47555 ай бұрын
@@ArcTrooper269 iirc Universal Studio's own the rights for a solo hulk film, and if they wanted to include Betty in a MCU movie they would have to include her in a Avengers or any tag team movie like Thor Ragnarok, most people wouldn't want a massive part of a team up movie to go to Betty and if she has too minor of an appearance it's better to not include her
@ArcTrooper2695 ай бұрын
@@sudeeptoshoron4755 1. CW didn't have the rights for Superman(before 2020) yet they still treat him with respect & INCLUDED LOIS LANE 2. if you can't properly use the character THEN USE ANOTHER ONE, I mean, literally none of the MCU Roster were A-Listers before the movies 3. You are LITTERALLY defending the same studio that sued a terminal child, just stop 🤢
@kidkatanatv5 ай бұрын
Apparently she's in the new Falcon movie
@antona.86595 ай бұрын
@@kidkatanatv yeah, for two seconds. And she never interacts with Bruce because he's not in the movie.
@salahdeanclemens22265 ай бұрын
“Generally Russian accent” I don’t think Scarlett Johansson can pull that off without it sounding fake.
@tommyg48425 ай бұрын
Get Meg from family guy then lol
@TerminatorFire-x8q5 ай бұрын
She already did it in the black widow movie.kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3PHfpRjiNGKoq8si=nLVxX5IUbG61AvaE
@S_raB5 ай бұрын
Maybe why they killed Natasha and replaced her with..... Edit: Florence Pugh who can do the Russian accent just fine
@TerminatorFire-x8q5 ай бұрын
@@S_raB kzbin.info/www/bejne/qojJppmrrZl1edksi=gu2H6Y0qxJyjHb2e does this sounds fake to You?. Yelena is a good character but the legacy that Natasha have on the mcu is bigger then Yelena obviously. No one is better than the original Avengers.
@S_raB5 ай бұрын
@@TerminatorFire-x8q It was a joke. The long pause is meant to convey how awful the mcu now is. Black Widow should've had a film in 2018 at the latest.
@mr_0n10n55 ай бұрын
I can forgive the Iron Man 3 Pepper action because the actress was kind of here and there, so they had to write around that. What I will NEVER forgive is the travesty of Black Widow and especially Captain Marvel
@Pat123795 ай бұрын
The only thing I didn't like about black widow was task master wnd the cgi at times but I am a doctor who fan so I can look past bad cgi pretty esey
@Seetiyan5 ай бұрын
@@Pat12379You've suffered through plenty of that already. 😆
@Pat123795 ай бұрын
@@Seetiyan yeah that's why I said that the cgi in doctor who bad most the time except the past few years but is 60 years old so most the episodes have horrible chi
@Sky-Strider5 ай бұрын
Always thought that Sif should've been more prominent in Thor's story (just knowing about the mythology at the very least), and that was before learning how important she was in the comics. They could have at least made her a better/closer friend to Thor in particular since she was a competent fighter, but nope, she just disappears. Would've been pretty helpful in that Endgame fight, I bet.
@antona.86595 ай бұрын
In the comics she was the sole reason why Thor became worthy. He picked Mjolnir for the first time to save her after she was kidnapped. He became worthy when he tried to lift that hammer to help someone he loved, not to make himself powerful. Sif then returned the favor when Hela was about to drag Thor's soul to Niffleheim, but Sif pleaded on her knees to take her instead and made Hela, a character whose shtick is to be cold and emotionless, cry when she felt Sif's dispair. The MCU screwed up Thor's iconography worse out of any franchise I can think of.
@jonfreeman96824 ай бұрын
She is a key ally in the comics and they nicely introduced her in Thor but then disappeared. She got a cameo in Thor 4 but that's it. Not sure why but maybe she's busy with her TV show and other movies.
@juanbisonosuero36504 ай бұрын
For what I can gather what happened with the actress has some issues and if he had show up Ragnarok he probably will have been killed (which considering what we saw in love and thunder it probably would have been for the best) which is funny because she also make an appearance in agents of shield and her role in thor 2 team relatively more important on my opinion she should have appear in Ragnarok and died I mean her character seems to be very happy with the idea of dying in l&t
@noahhannon23052 ай бұрын
In endgame? Like the heroes needed more help?
@Rebelheart19855 ай бұрын
I keep saying Natasha would’ve made more sense with Bucky Barnes. Not just because they were a thing in the comics but because they have similar backstories and struggles albeit in different ways. (Also I think Jane was more interesting when she WASN’T a female version of Thor)
@PedroLucas-mg5je4 ай бұрын
Let's hope Bucky have a thing with Yelena during or after Thunderbolts for: 1. Those 2 to have the dynamic relationship Steve and Nat had during TWS and the relationship Nat and Bucky had in the comics; 2. For Bucky to FINALLY have some happiness on his life and the same goes for Yelena.
@ItsJae_37Ай бұрын
@@PedroLucas-mg5je everytime i say i ship bucky and yelena, people always get mad saying "oh no yelena is aroace you can't ship her with someone...." bucky and yelena make so much sense tho
@BunnychanFarabee3 күн бұрын
Marvel Rivals agrees with you apparently.
@mr.nakamura90885 ай бұрын
Your take on Black Widow was way better than what we got.
@juanbisonosuero36504 ай бұрын
I wonder if that was in one point when they were going with in the original version of age of Ultron send the movie apparently went for a very complicated process between try to keep a massive cast of characters their time to shine is smaller (in time) sequel of The avengers I mean I really don't like age of Ultron but every time I watch it I feel like the original idea was to have black widow manipulate the hulk but in some point someone decided let's make it a genuinely love story 👎
@I_am_a_cat_5 ай бұрын
I would love to know how pepper instantly knows how to use an iron man suit to its full capabilities. How does she know how to fly around perfectly, while shooting all these lasers and special attacks at the same time??? Learning to fly like that would take a LONG time. And dont even get me started on "the valkyrie..."
@ArcTrooper2695 ай бұрын
@@I_am_a_cat_ in both comics & Armored Adventures we saw her making intensly hard training to learn how to use the armor, in the CUM she just happens to knows it & learn it how it works OFF-SCREEN once again proving: Comics & Animation > Live Action Movies
@fnh1235 ай бұрын
She did have training. It's been 5 years since the Blip. Tony built it and taught her how to use it
@ArcTrooper2695 ай бұрын
@@fnh123 OFF-SCREEN & NEVER AKWNOLEDGE=Never Happened & still is a plot-hole
@fnh1235 ай бұрын
@@ArcTrooper269 So Rhodes is a plot hole as well? We never see him train either.
@ArcTrooper2695 ай бұрын
@@fnh123 YUP, IT IS TOO For some dumb reason they decided to delete the scenes of Rhodey training in the suit & left them on a Tie-In prequel comic I bet most of people didn't even read But thank god they left the scene of Tony going to the bathroom in the armor, THAT WAS WAY MORE NECESARY TO THE PLOT (Nótese el Sarcasmo)
@ArcTrooper2695 ай бұрын
*6:48** Armored Adventures defines her perfectly via Hawkeye lecturing her:* _Tasha, I became a criminal because MY BROTHER got involved with THE WRONG PEOPLE, meanwhile YOU because you actually like this life_ & Then Widow Replies: _BECAUSE IS THE ONLY LIFE I KNOW_
@jackhanson38565 ай бұрын
You are aware you can just edit comments, right? You don’t have to leave a new comment every time you see something you wanna comment on, just put it all in one comment. Also, why are you caps locking all the time? What is that?
@juanbisonosuero36504 ай бұрын
Honestly that sounds better than what they went with
@Rawan.94725 ай бұрын
Another female character that has been done dirty by the mcu is Sharon Carter. They would rather give off her character traits to other characters(Nat and Peggy) than giving her the story she deserves. Like the only reason Peggy was even created in the first place was to set up for Sharon’s story. They took so much away from her and reduced her into being a background character. Which is ridiculous considering her role in the Captain America comics.
@ben_adel34375 ай бұрын
She wasnt a background character in the falcon and winter soldier series i thinm they made her a villian but she doesn't feel threatening enough i think she may have an important role in thunderbolts but we'll see
@TripleCubedTriune5 ай бұрын
Agreed on Black Widow take.. they kinda reduced her to window dressing, there was allot of potential in developing the character that was neglected.
@ArcTrooper2695 ай бұрын
@@TripleCubedTriune we even Armored Adventures & EMH, FAMILY FRIENDLY CARTOONS, got her right, you know that the C.U.M. didn't even tried it
@petery64324 ай бұрын
She had a good story that had a lot of wasted potential leaving Endgame, and then they annihilated her in her own movie. It's a disgrace
@eatstudio92444 ай бұрын
@@ArcTrooper269 i unironically prefer animated cartoons like EHM, Armored Adventures, and even dislikes series like Ultimate Spiderman over any garbage that MCU puts out today. The multiple spidermen and spider universe characters are way better in Ultimate Spiderman series than marvel/sony verse.
@archlinuxuserАй бұрын
*a lot
@anyaaa28015 ай бұрын
I think the problem is obvious….none of their stories was planned at all. I think at best, they planned their stories for one or two movies and then didn’t care about them until they started this paper thin fake “feminism” thing. If you can even call it feminism.
@ben_adel34375 ай бұрын
Marvels whole feminism thing feels fake idk how to explain it but in she hulk the way they show that there's a feminist message feels like joke
@danikajayde85775 ай бұрын
I think that's what happens when it's pandering for money rather than written with genuine intent. You can feel their type of "feminism" shoe-horned in. It's doesn't feel organic. Especially when it's just having women on screen degrading men it misses the entire point of feminism. Women being capable, adaptive, using their own intelligence etc to earn their success is feminism; lifting women up at the expense of men is not and just plain lazy writing. As well just handing success to them without earning it is also boring, and that happens way too often.
@chasehedges67755 ай бұрын
Sooo true
@chasehedges67755 ай бұрын
pandering for money than written with intent EXACTLY THIS
@Ironica825 ай бұрын
To be fair, Pepper and Jane actresses had negotiations issues and that's the main reason why they disappeared for some movies
@ArcTrooper2695 ай бұрын
You can always recast them like the Arrowverse did with Sara/White Canary & THE MCU ISTELF did with Rhodey & Bruce
@timewarpdrive775 ай бұрын
That doesn't excuse writing rescue or mighty thor into the story
@ArcTrooper2695 ай бұрын
@@timewarpdrive77 that I agree, specially because unlike Comics or Armored Adventures, we never saw the training to becoming a hero
@krissjames72765 ай бұрын
@@ArcTrooper269 Nolan's Batman movies also recast Rachel Dawes.
@ArcTrooper2695 ай бұрын
@@krissjames7276 & Superman & Lois recasted Jon Kent in s3, RE-CAST ARE ALLOWED & NECESARY if the actors leave when the character still is needed
@Joshu-y1k5 ай бұрын
Fun fact: the Wasp (Janet Van Dyne) was supposed to take Black widow’s spot for the first avengers movie. She would’ve calm the hulk down in age of Ultron by using the same exact “the sun is going down” trick that Natasha did. However it wouldn’t been a some type of romantic relationship thing because Jan is with Hank in this version therefore Bruce would still had Betty as his love interest. Also, Due to Jan’s character of being kind and caring, she would had a trust type of bond with the hulk or even a friendship with the hulk. I wish we had that instead of Hulk/BruceXNatasha.
@ArcTrooper2695 ай бұрын
@@Joshu-y1k I would NEVER forgive the C.U.M. for hiring THE PERFECT ACTRESS FOR JANET VAN DYNE who was a huge fan of Wasp comics (Hayley Lovitt) just to CGI-ed Pfeiffer's face on her body & delete most of her scenes 🤬
@Joshu-y1k5 ай бұрын
@@ArcTrooper269 Facts! Hayley would’ve killed it as Janet!
@jakebrook5 ай бұрын
I totally agreed with you especially the relationship Wasp and the Hulk had in the Earth's Mightiest Heroes where she was the first one to give the Hulk the benefit of the doubt.
@ArcTrooper2695 ай бұрын
@@jakebrook & Colleen Villard as Jan? PEAK CASTING 💛
@Step430995 ай бұрын
I gotta agree that sounds way better
@juanbisonosuero36505 ай бұрын
Here’s something I really don’t like about about black widow in the mCU and it’s an element that has blend in other media. I know it’s probably something that came even before, but why is she an avenger by that I mean why is she part of the public eye team been a spy and all sounds like she should not be in the front lines.
@Pat123795 ай бұрын
I allways forget she's a spy tbh
@cooljim13765 ай бұрын
Her membership as an Avenger has always been back and forth in the comics. Mostly, she is there as an eye on the Avengers. Her motives are always muddy and her true allegiance is unclear as she is a double agent, which means she screws over her allies just as easily as she screws over the Avengers' enemies. All you know is that she mostly works in the best interests of S.H.I.E.L.D.
@SecretMagician5 ай бұрын
It all started with the Ultimate comics. She was a member of the Avengers there, and both she and Hawkeye were put in the place of Ant-Man and the Wasp in the MCU because they're as complicated and controversial as an actual wasps nest in the comics. Originally, Wasp was planned to debut in the first Avengers film with Zooey Deschanel being eyed to play her, but that was their contingency plan in case Scarlett Johannsen's contract didn't get renewed for the film.
@Ryder_OMEGA5 ай бұрын
She's just in the team because she's hot AF, its that simple.
@fnh1235 ай бұрын
Probably because she was shown fighting with the rest of the team during the alien invasion in the first Avenger movie.
@jonathanathor1175 ай бұрын
3:40 Rhody does work mainly because he and stark are genuinely close friends that built up enough trust overtime to use an iron man suit (Rhody was iron man at one point because Tony can be drunk) on top of the fact that he is a marine. There may be a very subtle starship troopers reference. It's very very very subtle.
@ArcTrooper2695 ай бұрын
@@jonathanathor117 also because Rhodey in 616 was not created as Tony's sidekick, he was originally his sucesor(Like Ben Reily & Azrael), but due to his popularity among readers & Iron Man not being a household, he was separated from Iron Man's book & got his own as War Machine
@CaccyTheCactusman5 ай бұрын
crazy, an actual criticism for female characters that isn't just screaming weird buzz words and sound effects and laugh tracks the whole video in youtube, who would've thought
@MrBruh-kb7fb5 ай бұрын
Thats because hes actually a talented fan and not a screaming manbaby. His takes are valid criticism which all can respect.
@Xeorboom25 күн бұрын
And I agree with his points! A lot of them are really decent characters who were never given the full potential they needed!
@kaylemjoseph87275 ай бұрын
Most of my favourite female characters growing up were female but not in this generation
@chasehedges67755 ай бұрын
THIS💯💯
@chasehedges67755 ай бұрын
80s/90s and 2000s movies knew how to do it.
@TeenPerspektiva5 ай бұрын
Lmfao
@Pat123795 ай бұрын
What are you even saying
@ArcTrooper2695 ай бұрын
What are you talking about? Cure Sky, Apollyon, & Cure Butterfly & Ameri Azazel are GREAT & the 4 of them are from this generation 😎
@ArcTrooper2695 ай бұрын
3:30 Is actually necesary to mention that Pepper WAS NEVER TONY STARK'S ROMANTIC COUPLE, that's something introduce by adaptations(not just CUM BTW, also by the cartoons & games like Armored Adventures & the Anime Universe for example) She orginally was suppoused to be just Tony Stark's best friend(aside Rhodey) & closest confident, that's why she becomes Rescue in Matt Fraction's Run, not because she's Tony's Girl, but because she is his most trusted friend & a very capable Fighter in hard moments
@ArcTrooper2695 ай бұрын
Oh, & she debued as Rescue in 2009, WAY BERORE the MCU was the thing it ended up being
@iraford57885 ай бұрын
@@ArcTrooper269well the MCU was a thing in 2009, so pepper didnt appear way before it was a thing, just 1 year later.
@marlonclark-ky6ub5 ай бұрын
@@ArcTrooper269 the mcu started in 2008
@ArcTrooper2695 ай бұрын
@@marlonclark-ky6ub & Matt Fraction run was written way before that, considering it started on March 2008
@BrandonScott-mi5pz5 ай бұрын
EXCELLENT WORK. MSHEU SERIOUSLY A DISASTER
@VidoeGamesForEver5 ай бұрын
Honestly, I would’ve focused more of Thor’s Relationship with Lady Sif than Jane Foster.
@antona.86595 ай бұрын
That's what a smart person would do. But as evident by the MCU's trackrecord with Thor movies after 2011, smart people aren't allowed into director's chair.
@chasehedges67755 ай бұрын
@@antona.8659 Kenneth Branagh was one of the smart people.
@chasehedges67755 ай бұрын
@@antona.8659 Thor 1 back in 2011 is the only LEGIT good Thor movie, tbh.
@VidoeGamesForEver14 күн бұрын
Ditching Black Widow's comic book origins and making her into a generic Russian spy. In the comics she's basically a female Soviet Captain America. She was born in the 1930s, survived the Battle of Stalingrad as a child, and was recruited by the Soviet Super Soldier Program ("the Red Room") who gave her a variant of the same serum that Steve Rodgers got. This would completely open up the world and bring in Cold War history and conspiracy into the character.
@supermodestmouse5 ай бұрын
the whole jane foster thor thing was so out of left field. Thor is a name...they can even say it's a power. but when you pick up mjolnir, you don't become thor. You can wield the power of Thor, but you aren't Thor. Was vision Thor when he picked up mjolnir for a few seconds? Was cap Thor when he wielded Mjolnir? what if he leaves it in an elevator - is the elevator thor now? of course not. it was just a lazy lazy retread to make her a girl boss. and don't get me started on the bs of kids shooting lazers and lightning out of their teddy bears against paper mache CGI monsters.
@natalieportmanfan18175 ай бұрын
Jane Foster the Goddess of Thunder Mighty Thor is an amazing character, a strong and complex woman with dramatic depth and a courageous personality ⚡️🫅🔨💪
@ChaosReaper4265 ай бұрын
That came from the comics. People just dont wanna admit that marvel comics have been trash for 30 years
@VagueVAA5 ай бұрын
Tht whole movie was a dumpster fire and they could’ve written her wayyyyyyy better than “let’s bring the thunder”
@supermodestmouse5 ай бұрын
@@ChaosReaper426 and it was bad in the comics as well. All of these things were seeing in phase 4/5 were done in the last 30 years and haven't done very well. It doesn't give them credibility (free comic book day at my lcs had common back issues for $1 with bag and board. There were BOXES and boxes of these comics people didn't even want for 75 cents) Boggles my mind how Disney doesn't use the mountain of metrics and data points marvel must have about what characters/stories/issues sell well and resonate with fans and then chooses all of these garbage tier choices to bring to the forefront.
@antona.86595 ай бұрын
@@ChaosReaper426 that came into comics just ten years ago and was mandated by Marvel's editorial because Jane now was a movie character and they needed to give her relevancy in the comics. It's the same reason why Loki during Siege looks and acts like a black metal arsonist, but then few years later Tom Hiddleston becomes the most popular actor in the MCU besides Downey and comics quickly turned Loki into a pretty bad boy who doesn't want to do bad things on purpose. Again, the MCU is so destructive, it affects the comics too.
@Bundeskaiser5 ай бұрын
I wish another director than Waititi would have done Thor 3. Maybe we would have gotten a better Hela. I still liked her, mostly because Blanchett has a lot of charisma in the role. But there was a lot more potential.
@Salty0105 ай бұрын
I still hoping she still not dead yet 😢 on that last part 😢
@antona.13274 ай бұрын
Kenneth Branagh was right there, but neither Hemsworth or the MCU thought, ''Maybe we should go back to the roots of the franchise and end it the way we started it?" Branagh actually had plans to bring Balder into the picture and mentioned Ragnarok (the myth) on the commentary track for the first Thor. He'd def do it some justice. And if Hela was there, she'd be the daughter of Loki and a lurking presence instead of a video game boss with no relation to Loki.
@ArcTrooper2695 ай бұрын
3:54 *AM SORRY BRADEN BUT NO* Rhodey WAS NEVER written as Tony Stark Sidekick in the 616 OG Comics, he was created as a new generation Iron Man for new readers(just as Ben Reily during that time was Peter replacement), HE BECOMES WAR MACHINE AFTER he lefts Tony side & get his OWN comic book series, due to his popularity(because unlike Ben Reily or Azrael, he was not replacing a Household name) Oh, & Pepper debuted as RESCUE in 2009, way before the CUM was the thing it ended up being
@timewarpdrive775 ай бұрын
2009 is basically the 2010s
@ArcTrooper2695 ай бұрын
@@timewarpdrive77 yes, BUT the era Braeden is claiming is the All New All different(which started in 2015 after Secret Wars),Rescue's first appereance happens way before that Matt Fraction actually tunred her into Rescue because HE NEEDED A SUPER HERO PARTNER for Tony, because as I stated later, Rhodey was busy in his OWN TITLE & his appereances in said run are not as a sidekick rather as a guest star(no diferent to Thor or Bucky's Cap ones)
@timewarpdrive775 ай бұрын
@@ArcTrooper269 did he specifically mention ANAD? I only heard him say 2010s.
@ArcTrooper2695 ай бұрын
@@timewarpdrive77 while showing a pic of it ¿Are you blind?
@timewarpdrive775 ай бұрын
@@ArcTrooper269 Care to throw me a timestamp?
@afilthyweeb86842 ай бұрын
Tony giving his entire company to his secretary really cemented him as insane
@FriendlyBatDoom5 ай бұрын
The part of you saying that other's being capable renders the main hero not special is spot on. The same thing applies to Batman nowadays as he has 20 members in the Batfamily and 8 of which mainly operate in Gotham. Batman should be more like the Sith with the rule of two Master and the Apprentice. This time with Batman, Alfred and A Robin at the most so when Dick leaves it gets to Jason, then to Tim then to Damian and that being the LAST OF IT. Once they leave they should go to other places far from him to be their own heroes or anti-heros. WHEN EVERYONE IS SPECIAL NO ONE IS SPECIAL.
@chasehedges67755 ай бұрын
“When everyone’s super, no one will be.”
@TeenPerspektiva5 ай бұрын
Frrrr @@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges67755 ай бұрын
@@TeenPerspektiva💯
@FriendlyBatDoom5 ай бұрын
@@chasehedges6775 Yep and now it applies to Batman. He might as well retire and let his proteges fight.
@rachitgupta83455 ай бұрын
i especially hate this because batman is the guy loves to fly solo, a bat family wouldnt exist unless bruce is dead
@CasuallyCruelCrushesClub4 ай бұрын
I was ready to be offended when you started talking about Black Widow not being a good enough character but ngl after listening to the whole thing I realised just how better and much more impactful she could've been!
@Exploreradd4 ай бұрын
Yoooo at 0:12 when that rat thing came down the screen I threw my phone across the room and I’m a 23 year old black man😭😭 that jump scared me 😂😂😂
@VidoeGamesForEver5 ай бұрын
Tony Stark do have other love interest. Bethany Cabe, Joanna Nivena, Indries Moomji, and Kathy Dare. So weird that they made Pepper Potts a love interest out of all of these other people I just mentioned while pepper was just his secretary who never had any romantic interest with stark and funny thing is she is with Happy Hogan in the comics. 🤔
@michaelmonthey59744 ай бұрын
Marvel has a lot female characters in their comics with tons of potential, but won’t give them proper writing and character development in their movies and TV series. It’s weird that for a brand that claims to be all inclusive, they are probably not always that way behind closed doors.
@iphonecloud15 ай бұрын
The only adaptation from the MCU I’m ok with are Guardians of the Galaxy. Even if the characters are entirely different from the source material, James Gunn made these unknown D-List characters into household names. The entire trilogy is enjoyable and fantastic to watch. Even with some characters getting nerfed, I have no problems with guardians of the galaxy.
@cacarlin704 ай бұрын
They even found a good way to get around the Thanos Snap fuckery
@ItsJae_37Ай бұрын
ehh, gamora in the 3rd movie wasn't good
@jeancaron93255 ай бұрын
The MCU must Not Mary-sue the female characters and Dumb or Demonized the Males characters.
@chasehedges67755 ай бұрын
EXACTLY💯💯💯
@jairusjackson77995 ай бұрын
Not for lack of trying. I don't know why they chose to take such a different approach with their female characters, they had taken the same approach with the male characters for years, but it was working! People liked the movies, so fuck it. Why the change? It's not the female characters, it's the way they refuse to give them a proper hero's journey
@BenjaminBilyeu-jm3tc5 ай бұрын
they've even lost their way with the male characters. Some of them have regressed as characters instead of developing further. Thor and Hulk are 2 good examples. I don't think that Hawkeye developed either and there are other examples. The different directors didn't care and just changed aspects of their character to fit the movie they wanted to make
@mr_0n10n55 ай бұрын
Armoured Adventures (the animated show) has my favourite Rescue with her training remotely with the stealth suit for like 2 seasons
@ArcTrooper2695 ай бұрын
+ it was hilarious seeing how obsessed she was on becoming a S.H.I.E.L.D. agent 😂
@mr_0n10n55 ай бұрын
@@ArcTrooper269 that too 🤣🤣
@KaygeeFromNanotrasen5 ай бұрын
Father Alberti has returned
@chasehedges67755 ай бұрын
💯
@FathDaniel5 ай бұрын
Praise be!
@timewarpdrive775 ай бұрын
Amen
@smallies71545 ай бұрын
Glen Alberti
@pacifagrant81525 ай бұрын
Is he a priest?
@IvanDubsK75 ай бұрын
I don’t agree with everything this video has said but I can’t deny that you bring up some good points about taking some of these female heroes seriously and taking their legitimate skill sets into account as well as respect their respective roles in each story Like yeah, why doesn’t Black Widow do proper espionage spy shit? Why isn’t Sif more relevant than Jane and why does Jane die so soon if they actually give a shit about female representation? WHERE IS ENCHANTRESS ALREADY?
@vaggos20035 ай бұрын
Which parts of this video do you disagree with?
@KelAda445 ай бұрын
I was hoping for Enchantress myself when I saw Skurge in Thor 3; I always thought that Charlize Theron would have been perfect for Enchantress as opposed to playing Clea at the end of Doctor Strange...
@IvanDubsK75 ай бұрын
@@vaggos2003 The RESCUE bit, I just don’t really agree with it, like I get his point I just don’t agree personally
@vaggos20035 ай бұрын
@@IvanDubsK7 Hm. Interesting. What's your take on that part?
@IvanDubsK74 ай бұрын
@@vaggos2003 I just think it makes sense to have that, it's a thing that happens in the comics so I would imagine they would have adapt at some point so I have no real issues with it It's not like it deflate Pepper's character as a whole it's just another thing that adds to her character Then again just because it was in the comics doesn't mean it's good, Rescue is fine compared to shit like One More Day or Mac Gargan being the primary Venom host or Civil War 2
@namecomingsoon95175 ай бұрын
To be fair on Pepper wasnt there an issue that the actor was having so they had ti write reasons why she wasnt there until they were able to get her back
@alexanderchristopher62375 ай бұрын
That’s gonna be a problem with planning out these big franchises as actors don’t want to be tied down as much into one commitment. Paltrow has been in Hollywood for some time now and has other interests going on for a time. Maybe that’s why Marvel is pushing newer actors to be their leads in films: so they can stay in the MCU for as long as they can use them.
@ArcTrooper2695 ай бұрын
Armored Adventures Pepper >> CUM Pepper
@changvasejarik625 ай бұрын
@@namecomingsoon9517 that plus do you really want to give good press to a snake oil salesman?
@timewarpdrive775 ай бұрын
actress?
@donaldjgumpofficial57545 ай бұрын
@@alexanderchristopher6237 These universes of films work better animated for that reason. It's far easier to change the voices.
@denizeskici44259 күн бұрын
You are so right about Betty Ross. It is very sad that she is forgotten. Also, Bruce and Natasha are complete nonsense. As you said, Bruce has always been in love with Betty Ross. You said Hulk is dangerous, but Hulk is never dangerous to Betty. Hulk loves Betty, would never hurt her and protects her. But, of course, His life poses a risk to Betty. so Bruce walks away from her because he wants her safety. They love each other very much, they want to be together, but they cannot due to circumstances.
@TeenPerspektiva5 ай бұрын
The realest fiction comentator guy is back, notify your friends and family
@chasehedges67755 ай бұрын
He’s fantastic
@TeenPerspektiva5 ай бұрын
@@chasehedges6775 he is
@joadams80222 ай бұрын
The problem with Black Widow is that Milla Jovovich (or possibly Kate Beckinsale or even Charlize Theron) had already played the perfect interpretation of the character a few years before Iron Man was released. Unfortunately, she did so in the wrong movie franchise.
@Man_Of_Logic4 ай бұрын
They fr made everything a joke for no reason. The random quips should be saved for Spiderman
@LukeLovesRose5 ай бұрын
That Girl Boss moment in Endgame was awful. So cringe.... So unearned. They could've banned together for Black Widow. All they would have to do is have Pepper and Wanda ask where Natasha is, only to find out that she died and she's never coming back. They both get even more mad and poof, you have a build up to the Girl Boss moment. But no. It's just for the sake of P**sy Power!
@n0thum4n4 ай бұрын
They already knew Natasha died. Why would they ask on the battlefield where Natasha is when they found out before the battle they didn’t go straight from time travel to snapping
@Shythalia4 ай бұрын
When Natalie Portman was announced to play Lady Thor, I thought she was going to be Thor from another universe but is a girl instead. I thought that's what they were going to do. :/
@ArcTrooper2695 ай бұрын
Armored Adventures Pepper Potts is so FREAKING GOOD as a character, despite she starts as a typical comic relieve, I love how as episodes progresses she becomes the brain of the team(while Tony is the lead & Rhodey the heart) & literally the only one who tried to be a real friend to Gene instead of just seeing him as a device to obtain more Makluan Rings Specially because we see her growing, learning & MOST IMPORTANTLY, TRAINING, ro become Resue & we actually saw him fighting as Rescue alongside the Iron Trinity(Hard to believe this is THE ONLY TIME WE SEE THE IRON TRINITY OUTSIDE IF THE COMICS) &, is hilarious seeing her so obsessed to become a S.H.I.E.L.D. agent 💜
@isaacharvey4515 ай бұрын
I remember a particular season of a franchise that's still going to this day, released no later than 2015. In it, a previously-static female character is basically tasked with saving five other team members, as well as helping to save the franchise's equivalent of the multiverse. Throughout the season's 3.5-hour runtime, she evolves into a member just as capable as the other five, with guidance from both the other five's mentor as well as an antihero. Within the season's 10-day release window, the female character becomes everything Marvel has been trying to deliver on for over 15 years. Strong female characters are more than possible, but only if enough time and care and effort is put in during the production process.
@Gamegeek-pd7zv5 ай бұрын
What's the name of the series?
@isaacharvey4515 ай бұрын
@@Gamegeek-pd7zv Lego Ninjago: Masters of Spinjitzu. Specifically, Season 5, "Possession."
@BLACKSTA3614 ай бұрын
Your Analysis on Black Widow was perfect
@chasehedges67754 ай бұрын
It’s excellent
@Hell_diver14 ай бұрын
Im not pointing any fingers but the MCU isn’t bad because of the women, it’s bad because of the writing.
@krissjames72765 ай бұрын
It's amazing how due to ideological reasons, female characters are no longer allowed to "just" be love interests, they're no longer allowed to be Damsels in Distress, female heroes HAVE to be at least as physically powerful and capable in combat as their male counterparts, and they can't ever be anything but exceptional. This might make for good "role models" (not really), but it doesn't make for interesting female characters that bring something unique to the table.
@n0thum4n4 ай бұрын
I’m sorry, a female hero being capable and on par with other heroes makes them a bad character that’s bullshit
@KnightEclipser3 ай бұрын
You just want female characters to be just love interests and/or damsels in distress, which is sexist and stereotypical. Meanwhile, so much male characters have been leads and action heroes in storytelling for thousands of years, at the expense of female characters.
@lvar06492 ай бұрын
Female characters should have the right to shine as much as their male counterparts. We cannot simply reduce female characters to damsels in distress or love interests. That's kind of sexist.
@ema40205 ай бұрын
a big chunk of how widow is portrayed in the mcu is how basically janet van dyne should have been portrayed if appearing on the movies. loving, caring, quippy and the heart of the avengers. she's the one who keeps them grounded and not thinking they're gods on earth. she's to the avengers what sue storm is for the FF. i understand people not wanting to have hank pym as a main avenger on the MCU, but janet was obligatory. she needed to be there. either along scott lang, or hank. but she had to be there.
@frankieaddiego59626 күн бұрын
Unpopular opinion: many of Braeden's notes for Black Widow are on-point, but more fundamentally, instead of Hawkeye & Black Widow, they probably should have gone with Ant Man & Wasp, since they actually were members of the original team in the comics. I also think Wasp would be a better casting fit for ScarJo. The whole time I was watching her solo movie, I kept seeing Rachel Weisz and thinking, "that's who should have played Black Widow." Everyone loves Scarlett Johansson, I just think she should have had a different role.
@bbgunz17055 ай бұрын
12:13 I don't get why Obadiah Stane is listed among the super geniuses. The Iron Monger suit was made by other scientists, and even then, it was only possible by stealing tech and designs made by Tony. At most, Stane was presented as a very good businessman, but nowhere near a genius scientist.
@eatstudio92444 ай бұрын
hammer (or his MCU part) should've been there since he actually developed extremis
@megapeebs26318 күн бұрын
One thing I really dislike is how Thor said he was unworthy to rule asgard yet chose Valkarie, the SAME persin who sold people into slavery knowing they'd most likely die for booze money that I will never forgive
@Ben.SK23463 ай бұрын
Superhero: Superpowered individuals who overcome their weaknesses to defeat their enemies and save people. SuperSHEro: Super-Overpowered women who have no weaknesses and overcome the ridicule by men for being female, and defeat their enemies with ease just because they're strong women.
@dayknight035 ай бұрын
The only female character they did right (Besides Black widow) Was Thena. She had a good side story that involved her losing control and the chemistry she had with Gilgamesh was cute. She was badass, and not over confident. And she got shit done.
@chasehedges67755 ай бұрын
I thought she was bland. Angelina Jolie did an ok job but she was a mediocre character
@cool_dude_like_really3 ай бұрын
Man you're ideas for Black Widow are absolutely great
@lackypub86245 ай бұрын
I strongly disagree with pepper because 1. This is the first time that Tony Stark made an iron man suit for anyone but his self. 2. Pepper literally lives with Tony Stark to know how the suit works. 3. It only appears in the endgame in the final battle where every superhero is fighting for the universe. This doesn't undermine anything of Tony Stark's goals or accomplishments.
@ben_adel34375 ай бұрын
Yes like just because she was background character in some movies doesn't mean she isn't important and her getting a suit makes sense she's literally the wife of ironman
@BenjaminBilyeu-jm3tc5 ай бұрын
disagree with your disagree. I think the problem isn't that Pepper wouldn't know how it works in general but that we never see her train or learn anything about the suit. The first iron man showed Tony doing a lot of trial and error and making adjustments. He had to struggle and earn his abilities with his brains and ingenuity. Pepper may have learned offscreen but Marvel does that a lot. Just show a quick scene of her figuring part of the suit out or learning from Tony. We get none of that and she just appears on screen and is as good as Tony with the suit. That makes Tony not seem as special as Iron Man. He's more than just the suit but this brings that down a bit. That's how I took the commentary on it
@lackypub86245 ай бұрын
@@BenjaminBilyeu-jm3tc Well kinda because Tony was mainly making mark 2 during this period. While adjusting to hovering instead full on flying. Now once he made mark 2 he just started the flight test and he adjusted to it very quickly. Just like he said "There's a time where you got to run before you can walk". Also compared to all the marks in ironman 1 to her suit should not be in the same category. It also makes Tony better in terms of iron man suit training. Since every disadvantage his previous suits had are pretty much not relevant in her suit making her training less risky and faster than tony. Because since her suit has Tony advanced Ai if she messes up the suit would just assist her. Which Tony made mostly himself from the ground up. This just tells you anyone can be ironman but no one can be Tony Stark because without Tony her suit would never exist. Since he literally built it.
@eatstudio92444 ай бұрын
posted it under another comment but its related, so i'll post it again : what I don't understand about pepper is at the end of iron man 3 she did gain extremis powers, but then never uses it again. If they wanted, they could've recasted someone else with that excuse, and also show her beating some random joke villains during some films. Then, stark giving her the rescue suit would've made much more sense. Could've also played along with the dynamics of her struggling with extremis and how tony relates to that as he struggled with heart problems, and thus built the suit for her
@lackypub86244 ай бұрын
@@eatstudio9244 The reason she don't use the power anymore is that Tony might have made a cure since anyone he mat with those powers tends to explode. Yea there are better way to give her the suit. But my argument is that pepper is fine as a character and her suit makes sense because of Tony's character.
@Killerkriskg5 ай бұрын
I'm so happy you gave some criticism of Black Widow, but I think everyone seems to think that her suicide in Endgame was such a fantastical character moment for her, when it nullified the rule set for the soul stone, while diminishing a payoff for hawkeye. In her first film (Iron Man 2), she's clearly a cold agent and only on mission. In Avengers, she and Hawkeye clearly has history, and she goes out of her way to help him specifically. Avengers 2, she seems heartbroken about Hawkeye's family life, while also trying to find social company in bruce banner. Winter Soldier is similar to IM2 but she is also more open to Captain America, showing her desire for acceptance. Civil War, she initiates the request to stay friends with Hawkeye in their skirmish. After Infinity War and in Endgame, Hawkeye goes lone wolf because he lost everything (clearly doesn't care about the team or Natasha) while Black Widow is STALKING him for 5 years. When the time experiment initiates, Hawkeye volunteers because he doesn't care about dying since he lost everything. He is even in a spot of grief when he sees his family again but gets pulled back (which, to anyone, is foreshadowing his sacrifice). When they go to the soul stone, Black Widow dies, who was fairly established for the entire MCU to not be the dearest thing to Hawkeye. Clearly, Black Widow wanted acceptance, and felt that most closely with Hawkeye. Had Hawkeye died, giving his last request to save his family, he would have completed his own arc in the same film, while Widow would have lost that which she cherished dearest, hence giving her the soul stone. TLDR: Black Widow dying made me laugh out loud in the cinema because I thought they just lost the soul stone, since Hawkeye didn't care even fractionally for Widow.
@aakshaypatil51055 ай бұрын
Betty Ross died with The Incredible Hulk. And the thing that came out was the MCU Hulk. I may be wrong but I absolutely believe that The Incredible Hulk won't be scared to fight against Thanos or his Minions in Wakanada
@VidoeGamesForEver5 ай бұрын
Iron Man 1: Origin Story Iron Man 2: Demon in a Bottle Iron Man 3: Rise of the Ten Rings Iron man 4: Armor Wars What a trilogy it could’ve been
@ArcTrooper2695 ай бұрын
@@VidoeGamesForEver that's LITTERALLY Armored Adventures sinopsis(tho they changed his alcholism for workoholism, but the message ended up being the same) 😎
@indiajohnson5 ай бұрын
Don't you mean quadrilogy?
@ArcTrooper2695 ай бұрын
@@indiajohnson the correct term is *TETRALOGY*
@johnsantos5075 ай бұрын
There's no Iron Man 4. Remember, Tony Stark is dead. Rest in peace Iron Man.
@ArcTrooper2695 ай бұрын
@@johnsantos507 he is sugesting A DIFFERENT saga different from the C.U.M. Learn how to read
@hakdoghakdog83172 ай бұрын
I love that thumbnail "M-She-U" LOLLLLL sooo creative
@TegFark4 ай бұрын
They write female characters as men. Women and men are too different to be equal. Equality today means women can be men too.
@subject1225 ай бұрын
Gamora was pretty interesting. Shame they essentially threw her character away
@ben_adel34375 ай бұрын
The problem with blackwidow is mostly weird writing like it feels like they didn't have a plan for her but kept going like her whole existence was based on her being a hot sheild agent that is flirty and when they fixed her character (her movie) it was so late cuz she was dead
@MasterTSayge5 ай бұрын
Jane Foster as a nurse was WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more better than an Astro-physics Tony stark 2.0.
@natalieportmanfan18175 ай бұрын
Jane Foster the Goddess of Thunder Mighty Thor is an amazing character, a strong and complex woman with dramatic depth and a courageous personality ⚡️🫅🔨💪 Jane Foster.the Goddess of Thunder Mighty Thor is very moving and courageous, fighting against her cancer using the divine powers of Thor 💪🧡🌟 She has deep personal drama, especially when she breaks the sink out of anger and sadness 💪♥️ Natalie Portman is just amazing in the movie.🩷🔥✨
@SecretMagician5 ай бұрын
Probably why the EMH version instantly comes to mind quicker than the MCU version.
@JonahFinch-li7zn5 ай бұрын
Finally I’ve been dying for more insight of yours it’s really helping me out as a superhero writer
@smallies71545 ай бұрын
asking an american to put on an accent is just asking for trouble. look at wanda ffs
@jwappel30685 ай бұрын
I loved Red she hulk though. I miss her. That stupid Red Harpy thing was one of the few bad things in Immortal Hulk imo.
@MayankRamnani18023 ай бұрын
You were very correct about Black Widow!
@raimiallpowerful20205 ай бұрын
Braeden, you're a really refreshing and positive voice to the comic book fandom. I hate the mishandling and treatment of the mcu, the disregard of the books but you tackle it in a respectable and.... eligible way. You don't take it too far and unlike other youtubers it isn't a mask to state their politics. This goes for them and disney, exactly the same just hating on others. You give true constructive criticism that isn't steeped in hatred. This video to me proves this, you don't just go "mary sue bleegggh" or "woman woooooo" to any woman but actually value the integrity of a good character and their fullest potential. The internet is a hell hole these days so I always look forward to your uploads.
@ArcTrooper2695 ай бұрын
@@raimiallpowerful2020 Yeah, that's something I love about Braeden, instead of the typical: _mcu woke, infinity saga better, mcu is bad because I say so_ He instead goes by the route: _They are butechering a far superior material & I'm gonna show you how they're doing it_
@anyaaa28015 ай бұрын
For me, I thought they dropped a huge ball on the black widow movie. A movie that people have been waiting and begging for years. A movie that should have come out before her stupid unnecessary death. They had all this time to hire the best writers to give her a very compelling story and a GOOD villain. Taskmaster was reduced to a wet paper version.
@BenVaserlan5 ай бұрын
Female Thor should be called "Thora". It's a name in Norway. Real life names: Thora Hird, Thora Birch.
@tragos94145 ай бұрын
Nice! Good to see you back.
@chasehedges67755 ай бұрын
It’s great content
@SVKING985 ай бұрын
The M-She-U right now: " And when everyone's super nobody will be. "
@chasehedges67755 ай бұрын
Syndrome was a prophet
@MeigsmerlinMeigsmerlin3 ай бұрын
i never even thought about that stuff about black widow, you're totally right. also yeah mcu totally dropped the ball with rescue, just having it be a cameo basically. the rescue storyline was done REALLY well in the iron man armored adventures cartoon. honestly pepper was like my favorite character in that show. sidenote though: i'm really concerned for what my algorithm is gonna do with me watching this. definitely don't want any rage-bait grifty "anti-sjw" bullshit showing up
@ValiantJackBG5 ай бұрын
Grab your doritos and apple juice boys, he’s back
@chasehedges67755 ай бұрын
And Dr Pepper
@I_am_a_cat_5 ай бұрын
He never left??? Its crazy that people think taking a month to make a video means that the uploader has been "gone." He's been here the entire time dude. I would like a juice box, though. Please.
@ValiantJackBG5 ай бұрын
@@I_am_a_cat_ You’re so wrong, he’s been lost in the jungles of cambodia in search of his long lost father for the last month while the video sat on his hard disk
@Godofthunder9515 ай бұрын
I don't like Apple's so I will drink my beer
@tommyg48425 ай бұрын
*Milk no homelander
@abraham21722 ай бұрын
Finally someone analyzes and criticizes the MCU's female characters in a rational way, without all this toxic political bullshit.
@nixuniverse52405 ай бұрын
Even though I find slogans such as “M-She-U” and the people that use them often as…kind of exhausting, I at least appreciate your dedication to be more productive in your critiques. It exudes passion for this franchise and desire to want better, rather than stretching to a 10 minute mark to cash in on controversy and views for as revenue.
@Pat123795 ай бұрын
Most people who use m she u are just sexist wnd don't want wemon in franchises they pretend to like eveb tho they clearly have never watched it
@timewarpdrive775 ай бұрын
I find the people making the M-SHE-U exhausting. So what if they use a word if they're describing a real phenomena. Seems kinda dumb to blame the messenger for the message
@BiggieTrismegistus5 ай бұрын
I found it exhausting that I had to go through this "moar diversity" thing twice and watch it fail both times. Years ago Marvel Comics did the exact same thing Marvel Studios did and got the same results. In fact I think DC Comics (which was going through its amazing _Rebirth_ initiative at the time) was actually able to overtake Marvel as the best selling American comic book company. Actually the mention of DC made me realize I've seen it three times. DC Comics launched their _Infinite Frontier_ initiative not long before phase 4 of the MCU and it also bombed horribly. My favorite was when John Ridely (the screenwriter of 12 Years a Slave) wrote a (thankfully non-canon) story where a de-powered Superman gets raped. That's a story that desperately needed to be told, right?
@nixuniverse52405 ай бұрын
@@timewarpdrive77 Multiple things can be true at the same time. You can find the current state of the MCU exhausting (as do I) and I can find some of the people who spam the phrase online for engagement base exhausting as well.
@daft_j3 ай бұрын
I find people who use "M-She-U" exhausting because I'm a woman who'd love to see more characters (especially women). What women want is to see well-written characters, preferably comic accurate. If not, keep the spirit and energy of the characters and give them flaws, struggles, and other things that compliment their powers. I'm just disappointed that the MCU mishandled writing female characters
@Joshu-y1k5 ай бұрын
The real love interest of Tony Stark from the comics is Bethany Cabe. She's a security expert, and a former romantic partner of Tony. Pepper and Tony never ever dated in the comics. Pepper is actually with Happy Hogan. Beth helped Tony deal with his alcoholism. Other than Beth, Whitney Frost would be Tony’s next best love interest. To me, Beth was Tony's True Love in the comics.... But MCU popularized Pepper Potts. Bethany Cabe is an interesting character. The Iron Man mythos has a lot of very interesting characters like her that the movies didn't use. I hope to see Bethany and Madame Masque in EA Motive's Iron Man game.
@SecretMagician5 ай бұрын
Hopefully they could show up in the future MU (Marvel Universe, like how the DCEU is now the DCU to differentiate) after Secret Wars reboots the MCU.
@grymns4 ай бұрын
Lady Sif was always my favourite side character of any Thor's story and i hated how they portray her in the MCU
@chasehedges67754 ай бұрын
Same💯
@TheDuke0135 ай бұрын
Women never struggle and don't have to learn anything is the biggest problem.
@benmcreynolds85815 ай бұрын
It's sad cause I loved Disney & it's 2D Animation growing up in the 90's. Now it's unrecognizable & it's monopolized many things. These people have proven they are only capable of writing narcissistic stories that self insert themselves and their own beliefs into anything they do. Even if they get to make something from a pre-existing beloved story, they cannot help themselves. They seem to be incapable of creating artistic creations that stray away from their own personal perspective, instead of showing they can lean heavily into escapism and pure storytelling.. They have proven time and time again that they are not capable of doing anything even remotely close to that.. (which is weird because that should be one of the most important attributes that a director or a developer or an actor has in order to be successful at their job....?) How is there no one that will fire these people who openly hate the fans, who hate the consumers were the one's who made their success in the first place.. There's now people like Kathleen Kennedy, She's a Perfect example of this awful trend where people keep getting these positions when they in no way deserve those positions. They are not hired based off talent or skill..? So we are seeing very expensive shows, movies, all so terribly designed, terribly managed, Awful writing, world design, character development, poor aesthetics. So much now feels creatively bankrupt and I really hope we all snap the f*ck out of it and get back to making better things. The new Acolyte show comes off so cheap & tacky.. It's not just the terrible writing & terrible acting. The whole thing is a complete self centered power trip.. It's horrible set design, horrible world building, horrible camera work. It all makes this show feel so small. Like it's filmed in a single green screen room.. Grasping at awful CGI techniques to try and force any bit of a false reality into this mess of a show. It's so far from Legitimate Star wars movies that it feels as if this whole thing is a big parody.. A very expensive parody.. Now Compare the "The Acolyte" as If you go back & watch "X-Men the Animated series" It was so well crafted. The story of the struggles of mutants having to deal with humanity was such a universally relatable storyline. Media back then was not afraid to face difficult topics head on. They found really unique ways to abstractly teach people life lessons. They touched on difficult situations & found intelligent ways to convey certain stories. Even when I was all grown up & rewatched it, it really felt like the story is crafted so well & executed at such a high level that anyone is capable of relating to it in someway or another. It's stuff like that, that we are deeply lacking nowadays. So much so that literal kid's cartoons from the 90's told deeper and more mature stories than most media nowadays. Stuff used to take pride in who can find the most creative ways to convey certain things. Who can give the audience certain feelings without overly explaining it. It used to not matter what kind of character, creature, species they were. What matters is that they found ways to convey artistic depictions of the Human condition. Creative ways that can connect us on a deeper level.
@chasehedges67755 ай бұрын
Sooooo true
@chasehedges67755 ай бұрын
Cindel(Aubree Miller) and Charal(Sian Philips) from Ewoks The Battle For Endor(1985) are both better well written and likable female characters than any of the Modern 2020 MCU films. Change my mind. They’re also both a good heroine and villainess respectively.
@RudyCrowley-b1j5 ай бұрын
It's not just 2010s, sadly. They're still doing that and it's still just as terrible. (Ahem, Jackpot.)
@ggamemaster16895 ай бұрын
Why do the leaders at Marvel Studios have all women in their movies act manly, flawless, and have no shortcomings from Endgame to Black Panther 2?
@chasehedges67755 ай бұрын
Endgame was the downfall. Should have stopped after Infinity War
@TeenPerspektiva5 ай бұрын
@@chasehedges6775true i pretty much havent enjoyed anything after end game. Shit has been on a downwards spyral ever since
@GreenGimmick5 ай бұрын
Kidding me, it was all down hill with the establishment of Marvel Studios. Captain America, Hulk, Thor, all terrible movies. Iron Man 2 huge drop from Iron Man 1, which was before Disney bought Marvel.
@chasehedges67755 ай бұрын
@@GreenGimmick True. They’re decent/mediocre movies at best.
@chasehedges67755 ай бұрын
@@GreenGimmick Iron Man1 feels like a different movie. Should have been a standalone.
@someone246884 ай бұрын
Finally someone who actually addresses the missed potential of these characters and looks at why these characters are badly written instead of just being a misogynist.
@latayesha5 ай бұрын
I completely agree tho! Completely dropping characters then randomly bringing them back is weird. I get Marvel doesn't wanna pay everyone for a 2 second cameo, and the actors are busy but still... They could explain this better
@seed.meditation3 ай бұрын
Yeah agree
@JacklynRockwell2 ай бұрын
Here are the good and bad of Phase 2: The Positives: Guardians and Winter Soldier The Negatives: Iron Man 3 can go to hell for all I care, Ant-Man was decent, Dark World is forgettable and Age Of Ultron is just watsed potential.
@ZArocket4 ай бұрын
In Peppers defense there are some adaptations that justify Rescue really well, or at least decently well. Armored Adventures comes to mind personally
@denizeskici442517 күн бұрын
I love Liv Tyler and she didn't deserve this. It's too bad that Betty was forgotten. and she's one of the best female characters in the MCU. Betty and Bruce are the best couple. When she was so important to Bruce, they suddenly replaced her with Black Widow. I feel sad for her. Now they brought her back but I have no idea what they will do. I hope they get back together and become a couple again. They never gave up on each other in the Incredible Hulk movie. Although Bruce and Betty separate, they continued their relationship when they met again. Betty may have never left him. her heart was with him. I wonder what their situation is now.🥺
@MiguelCarvalho-z5z4 ай бұрын
Excelent points, I wish they kept Edward Norton as the Hulk and Betty as his love interest. Also, to be honest, Jane Foster was just a boring character.
@Osedeyforyou5 ай бұрын
Mentioned lady Sif and I nearly cried😭💔 I LOVED that character, and they NEVER utilized her!
@chasehedges67755 ай бұрын
Not only that, it was a waste of Jamie Alexander and her talents . She’s a good actress in a lot of stuff, especially in the series Blindspot as Jane.
@Lezm5 ай бұрын
Welcome back man, love your stuff
@ThatBugBehindYou17 күн бұрын
Man that Syndrome line has single handedly kneecapped so many hero universes.
@slyc59205 ай бұрын
The reason why Pepper was nearly written out was due to Palthrow's up and down relationship with Paramount/Disney. So they weren't sure if they were coming back. Also, let's not forget how they screwed over Maria Hill
@orboakin80745 ай бұрын
All Marvel, and most western media, had to do is just copy Japan by simply avoiding toxic identity politics, focusing on good writing and characterization, and nothing else😕
@samis50185 ай бұрын
Hmmmm.. have you watch any anime; the are few masterpieces and the rest either are bad or mediocre.
@tommyg48425 ай бұрын
Aeon fluex, Resident Evil girl Alice, Halle Cat Woman (idc I like it), Underworld, Wanted, Doomsday, Charlie’s Angels, Kill Bill, (I never saw these two) Salt, and Colombiana. I’d say these are pretty much a good amount of the female led/ co Star movies I enjoyed growing up. I went for 2000s- 2010s. Before the bs we see in a lot of modern “action” female led movies. Never cared about them being women too much in the movies. They were hot, yes, but also extremely cool, badass characters I cared about. The last two I know people enjoyed. I’ll definitely watch them soon.