The MeatEater Rifle - Review & Test!

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[@blaynemacpherson8519]

How did I hear about this rifle for the first time from the brits instead of a North American rifle review. Oh by the way it’s a two stage trigger it’s suppose to have a lot of “take up”.

[@CalebWayneMcCready]

Because it’s just a weatherby vanguard. It would be like Remington coming out with a 700 that’s just a new paint job and reviewing it. Yeah it’s a special edition Gun but it’s not really any different. It’s made for marketing

[@blaynemacpherson8519]

@@CalebWayneMcCready Granted the new thing to this rifle is the spiral flute. You hope they improved the stock or do something different besides the spiral flute barrel paint and logo.

[@blackhouse7646]

Because it is only sold in Sportsman warehouse.

[@phatbikeguy]

Because its an overpriced Howa 1500....... Literally the same gun with different stamping......... Same manufacturer

[@blackhouse7646]

@@phatbikeguy what other rifles do you recommend to look for?

[@eddiegayden6417]

After sighting in at 60 feet, I could easily cover 5 shots with a nickel kzbin.infoUgkxQt2uORDRfFOVSrO4idv4B90ThT6EOnEL ! Truly a pleasure to shoot! Scope was easy to adjust for eye relief. Only problem the varmints must have seen it delivered lol!Update: So impressed with shot groups at 30 yards I purchased a Hammers 3×9 with adjustable Objective scope! Now a true nail driver!

[@jcows12]

60 feet.... 30 yards? I would say 50 yards should be minimum. Any gun is going to shoot tight out of the muzzle.

[@D_Boone]

Uncle Steve, Big Jani, and the Little Guy with the Mustache. Brilliant.

[@radagastthefool6661]

This is the vanguard S2 but with spiral flute, cerakote and fancy paint. I have used a 308 S2 a couple of years. Great accurate rifle. Just upgraded to X bolt pro carbon fiber. Superb rifle but the S2 shoots same groups. But carry 1 kg less :-)

[@WayStedYou]

Yeah, not sure why you would spend this much extra on a fancy vanguard when the mark V hunter exists for almost the same price.

[@knievel8727]

Yeah only $400-$500 more.

[@davidbaker4838]

My Dad always reminded me that " its the Indian, not the arrow" that makes the difference. Practice makes the difference in everything in life.

[@alexp3148]

Absolutely stellar video, best gun review I’ve ever seen! Purchased this rifle in 7mm Rem Mag last night for elk, bear, and deer hunting in Arizona. First rifle I have ever purchased. Figured I’d watch a video on it, you confirmed every reason I should purchase and more. The style of the video was excellent. Great music in the background, stellar shots of the rifle, and a great in-depth of all the details of the rifle. Loved it, you got a new subscriber

[@tgsoutdoors]

Cheers Alex

[@justynlogan9936]

How are you liking it? I’m thinking about purchasing soon.

[@alexp3148]

@@justynlogan9936 update for you, incredible rifle. Haven’t had the chance to kill game with it yet, but after sighting in and range time with it, it’s a stellar rifle. Eats the recoil very well, light weight, quality components, and comfortable on a long hike and pack. Not one reason I can think of to not get it

[@johnybanks1107]

How is it you can have a suppressor in the UK but can't in canada

[@lukaspatty6431]

i shot one today at work... for a customer... shot a nice 1inch moa group..

[@JHruby]

Really a nice review of a great-looking rifle. I would just add one feature that Johnny didn't mention specifically: It's a Weatherby. What that means, in this case, is for $999 (1200 GBP), you can have a nicely put-together package with some premium features AND have it chambered in either the freaky-flat-shooting, fire-breathing 6.5-300 Weatherby or the knock-'em-over 300 Weatherby Magnum. You won't be getting those chamberings in a Tikka. Weatherby makes rifles their own way since Roy founded the company. He didn't design cartridges or make rifles the way everyone else did. If you want what everyone else has, yes, you can certainly buy a generic Tikka or Remington. If you want a Weatherby...

[@tgsoutdoors]

Tikkas are boring. This is not.

[@goory93]

This is a Howa 1500 with fancy fluting and cerakote. It isn't a Mark V. A nice rifle and I think it is competitive at it's street price in the US (~750-900), but it isn't premium.

[@sparky_-mf2cs]

I agree with you even though i baught a 270. . I want a 300 or 257 weatherby magnum but for that one i want it in the mark v

[@blaze-uz6or]

Carlos Hathcock USMC sniper Vietnam 93 kills best ever. Used a Winchester model 70 with a 8 power scope. And those deer were shooting back lol. Just hit the range get a rifle second hand for half the price lol.

[@zUniiiique]

Would be awesome to see Steve rinella and his gang over to the UK!

[@willroland7153]

He has in the past, did a stag hunt in Scotland. He’s talked about how he’ll never do it again because of the over regulated “hand holding” and “pomp and circumstance” that takes place on a euro hunt.

[@DFox-ud3gx]

Just got back from the clay field. Now I get to watch my favorite show

[@michaelduncan2759]

Gentlemen would you consider a review of the Savage straight pull Impulse? I know straight pull rifles have been used in Europe for years, but here in the US this is the first one.

[@ReferenceFidelityComponents]

Must admit I’d buy a Tikka for similar money. I prefer fully floated barrels and have yet to shoot anything more dependable and accurate at this price point than a T3. It’s probably a great rifle but looks a bit of a marketing and vanity project…a tarted up Vanguard perhaps? If buying new In that style I’d put a little extra towards an M12 or S&L victory

[@HATEY_HD]

Came here from youtube meateater suggestion... and damn i love your production mate! subscribed! sooooo good! keep it up!

[@jayyyrukeyeee103]

Had to find what mine liked, went from lighter grain 2 moa spread to 172 grain I believe at .75 moa

[@AdamTuralinski]

Great review, I've had mine for about a year now. It groups sub-MOA when i do my part with match ammo, and definitely looks slick. Awesome vid bud

[@justinwatson384]

Excellent, I love Weatherby but am partial to the Mark V. Excellent review sir

[@beavertaco8951]

My entry level rifle is a 350 legend on a AR platform. I got for 800. I could drop another 300 and turn it into a AR-15.but yeah your rite you got a great starter rifle rite there

[@blakedavis2447]

*you’re right

[@jamesmooney5348]

Thank goodness for fast forward.

[@jordanhicks5131]

When did $1000 become an "inexpensive" gun? I could buy two very wonderful big game rifles for that price, and they'll do everything this will do.

[@tgsoutdoors]

When Blaser decided to teach us that anything under £5k was entry level 😂

[@jordanhicks5131]

@@tgsoutdoors which is hilarious, thinking that there is such a thing as "entry level" for hunting rifles 🤣, I wonder what marketing suit thought that up hahaha The rifle either does its job or it doesn't, its the hunter who is entry level or intermediate level or whatever. If a 500 dollar rifle will do the job I'd rather spend the difference on good optics and plenty of ammo to spend hours getting familiar with it.

[@vitaly6312]

Yes, I have a few rifles below $500, but in today’s market, you’ll likely be stuck with a Ruger American or a savage, maybe a few more. Those are seriously entry level and will get you basically a no frills rifle. This one is often at $900 or below, I’ve seen it at $750 and nearly bought it. A $1000 will get you a good gun, but it may not get you everything that this rifle gets you. I bought a Tikka instead.

[@antpassalacqua]

Inflation brother

[@christiandavis3910]

$1000 is high level for a basic out of the box gun. You’re talking a Remington Sendero or Browning X-bolt…etc. My last purchase was a nice Remington 700 SPS with heavy barrel in 22-250. It cost me $600. Once we start getting into stainless, fancy stocks, etc….we’ve just blown our wad to a $1000 gun. I’ll need to actually put my hands on this before I can justify that kind of money for a gun, but if it’s all it’s cracked up to be I’d buy a 300 WSM in a heart beat.

[@cfrank925]

You sold me on this. Just ordered it here in the USA. Unfortunately I live in a liberal state so I can't run the can. However, I ordered the muzzle brake.

[@markpascal8563]

Was set on this rifle till I actually shouldered it.. was disappointed in the stock... felt hollow and cheap and wasn't "grippy" like it would appear. 2x the price of a standard vanguard just for cerekote and a logo

[@nickjackson5085]

First 3 shots on my tikka t3 lite 243 were within a finger nail grouping

[@SuburbanBushwacker]

Yep. Every stalking rifle review should end with the words ‘or buy a tikka’

[@sparky_-mf2cs]

Tikkas are overrated. Get the real deal and get a sako...

[@alexanderangelo7284]

American here. Can someone tell me why pump action centerfire rifles are illegal? Lever action centerfires, semi auto and pump action rimfires, and pump action shotguns are legal in the UK, so why not PA centerfires?

[@funkyneil2000]

Reasons. Really silly reasons. But if you don't mention it too much they might let us keep the lever actions!

[@arinrb]

My guess, the pump action “AKs” and “ARs” that became a thing probably scared the beautiful people.

[@MrRobinGriffin]

same reasons as most gun laws, they're made by people ignorant of anything firearm

[@geraldswain3259]

They are frightened to death we will turn then into machine guns.!.

[@MrRobinGriffin]

@@geraldswain3259 They are frightened fixed that for ya

[@inupik23]

Take a look at Randy Newberg's Howa. I like it's features as well.

[@markwierzbicki5307]

Looks very nice! but I should wait for my ticket to come back from the last variance first.

[@fishduckdog]

Fun review. You are loved overseas as well.

[@Rockjock007]

Get the tikka, sub MOA, better trigger better barrel. Just a better gun.

[@ChrisSmith-mj4uj]

Buying for it saying meat eater on it… agree just buy a tikka. Know what you’re getting imo

[@Joel_Unbound]

Camo on a rifle is to lure in buyers - it does not look like a 5 grand rifle to my eye, just my opinion. For less money but lighter and more accurate with free-floating and with a 3 position wing safety and a wonderful claw style extractor Kimber Hunter ftw. It's certainly personal but I also don't like Monte Carlo stock. Nothing wrong with the MeatEater rifle but there are others on the market for the same or less which give the same or better bang for the buck (like Kimber, Savage, Bergara). Oh and personally as much as I do LOVE MeatEater I don't want their name/logo stamped on the rifle.

[@SuburbanBushwacker]

Agreed. Lots of really great rifles for only a few hundred more, no 5k rifles that look like that.

[@sparky_-mf2cs]

They all work ...

[@michaelduncan2759]

Steve is 184 cm. You guys are a riot, thanks for the review.

[@devinstetler6874]

I enjoyed watching this and it was very informative. The sportiness was funny as well but gun safety is always a must and I was disappointed watching Mr. Tall leaning on the end of the barrel. He would have been the only one injured but it works against all of us who are interested in guns. Great video other than that guys. Keep up the great work and be safe out there.

[@jimdeitch321]

So JC you are saying I should dump the Rigby highlander and pick up this Weatherby for my next trip to Scotland for Reds? I will if you say so. BTW the guys from Purdey would like to talk to you about those trigger plate guns. I told them I wouldn't buy anything without your blessing. Sorry to impose, it's just me

[@tgsoutdoors]

Not sure I would leave the Rigby and pick this up, although I think the deer probably wouldn’t care! Purdey have made contact but I think they would like confirmation from you before going ahead.

[@jimdeitch321]

@@tgsoutdoors I can manage confirmation tomorrow, caught me right in the middle of our dove season so I am back and forth between home and the ranch almost on a daily basis

[@tgsoutdoors]

Many about?

[@jimdeitch321]

@@tgsoutdoors Yes, quite a few for this early in the season. Cold front by the weekend should push more birds South. Right now though its about 100 degrees and is kind of uncomfortable

[@ibelieve1468]

Got to love Meat Eater!

[@serverlan763]

The only thing is Rinella actually uses a much more expensive HS Precision rifle in his movies. This is rifle is basically a pimped up Howa which in it's self is not a bad thing as they are good actions, but it's definitely not a high end hunting rifle, Also there is no where in the specs where the weight is mentioned so you know by that it's not a light weight rifle. Mountain hunters are going to be put off by that.

[@9thchild358]

I've had serious issues with mine. Trigger gets "stuck" every once in a while. The rifle goes into battery and can be fired, but instead of the wonderful Vanguard trigger you get a long mushy hard pull that almost seems like you are breaking the rifle. Rack the bolt a few times (or fire the round) and it usually clears up. I've taken it to the store I bought it and they were all dumbfounded. Sent it to Weatherby and they returned it quickly without any note about what was done to fix the issue. Apparently nothing was done as it still happens regularly. I will be selling it after deer season unfortunately.

[@goory93]

If you like the rifle otherwise... it is just a howa action, so you could get a drop in trigger and have a much nicer trigger than you started with. A timney will run you about 130-150 bucks and in my opinion feels excellent.

[@9thchild358]

@@goory93 I've considered this, but for $1K the rifle should function out of the box. Seems like that would be throwing good money after bad.

[@mikeastrong6089]

Great Review, I liked and subscribe. You earned it, keep them videos coming.

[@dbeardsley0]

It looks like a modern hunting rifle for around $900. No reason it shouldn't be free floated. Bergara, Tikka, and Savage all make rifles similarly priced with all the same features and they're free floated. Not to mention better actions, triggers, and barrels

[@mudgunner49]

What's that background song When you met up with your mates and were looking things over on the truck hood???

[@royandrews5886]

The thumbnail looks at first glance like Steve has a mullet. Lol

[@JG54206]

They consider $1000 for an off the shelf bolt action hunting rifle with a custom paint job affordable? Not saying it’s a terrible deal but I wouldn’t cal it affordable at that price. Not when my Savage 110 in .243 with a scope mounted is $400. And the Savage Has a free floated barrel which I found mind blowing at that price. I’m sure this gun is nicer in other respects. Still looks like a very nice rifle.

[@CrescoLibertas1]

Genuinely funny! Well done. And an interesting rifle.

[@jeanmorin3247]

Here in Canada a rifle designed to be shot with gloves is not a bad idea. One designed to be shot with a mitten would be better...!

[@wolverinefishing6877]

Facts lol

[@paintedwarrior516]

I like it but it would be tough to move away from my Remington model 700 BDL 7mm Mag

[@knuckledragger2412]

Haven't held a rifle of that design yet that would be acceptable for carrying around in the mountains.

[@kevsmu]

Great video ! Love the rifle aswell I wouldn’t say no to this for sure. 👏👏

[@forddude1976]

Good to see Antt back

[@John_Redcorn_]

At $1k, id just spend a little more and get a Mark V. I think $7-800 would be about the top id pay for a Vanguard

[@charleskittler4330]

Darn good rifle with a serious scope 👍👍😎😎

[@Mountainghost72]

Lightweight rifle? The one I looked at, felt like it weighed a ton

[@albertoberrum3272]

Buy a Howa 1500, howa makes the vanguard , and its the same thing as the howa 1500 to the point that all parts interchange and at a fraction of the price

[@tgsoutdoors]

When Howa do a spiral fluted cerakote option, I’ll buy it and send the balance to Meateater.

[@albertoberrum3272]

@@tgsoutdoors they actually do, just gotta place the order for it

[@hitnorcal]

These guys had me laughing so good. I hope they're friends.

[@tgsoutdoors]

Mortal enemies when there’s a competition in the air

[@lokei1326]

@@tgsoutdoors as all true friends are

[@johnrococo982]

Their are 2 types of hunters “affordable” 1000 and the holy shit I could buy 2 rifles for that price. I’ll take the 2 rifle hunter everytime

[@dakodajbraswell]

It is a beautiful rifle. But I can never shoot anything other than my thermal sighted fully loaded 22" precision style m1a rifle. But even then👀 that paint job

[@davejones67]

My floor plate was fucked up. They are sending another.

[@arthurwarner7684]

Love these videos keep it up

[@danstevens2204]

So it’s an s2 vanguard with cerekote and a spiral twist. Nice but I’m happy with my s2 stainless

[@qwertyasdf3351]

I have a browning a bolt 2 white gold medallion in .270. Thoughts?

[@jorgecardoso1161]

I have the regular a bolt medallion in 270. It is dead accurate. I've only shot it to 100yds with a vintage tasco scope and it's dead on.

[@britfrodine3324]

What bipod and adaptor is on the rifle

[@snook1249]

Must be time for some gunsmithing projects surely? Like installing a palmswell ....

[@tgsoutdoors]

A pair of gloves is easier

[@tommyj7087]

If was TRULY the MeatEater gun it would only be available left handed for all us cool kids. Doesn't even look like Weatherby offers it in a left hand version though there is an image of Steve with one. This is bull. :-)

[@nickolaskunz5735]

Gotta love lefty’s being thrown under the bus. At this point I’m considering just sucking it up and using a righty

[@tommyj7087]

@@nickolaskunz5735 I did that with my AR's and semi auto's in general, but I can't run a RH bolt gun on my left shoulder. I have to come off the gun every time I run the bolt.

[@nickolaskunz5735]

@@tommyj7087 fair enough. I’m just sick of no left hand mid range rifles. The jump is pretty much savage to tikka

[@mytwocents8023]

I'm going with begara b14 wilderness series

[@ravingtaz29]

It is made by Howa from Japan

[@schairphoenix4059]

Pretty jealous. I waited 15 months for my last suppressor.

[@kevinp8339]

How’s that GPO scope ?

[@steveespinosa7427]

What size scope

[@teggwynlewis9803]

If you want to buy a rifle at that price new, just buy a tikka. Not a howa in drag.

[@alfonsoalonzo]

weird seeing British gun content

[@LakesMTB1964]

Awesome video as per usual

[@johnnymccann5607]

a bad shot with a 1000 dollar rifle is the same bad shot with one that’s 295.50 dollars. I can shoot the cheepest center fire rifle at Walmart and do the same , kill the same game. have extra money for gas , ammo , motel room , eats for a three or four day hunt on public game lands I don’t have to lease . free baby.

[@Bulletstop75]

living rent free in your head lol!

[@FatBoy42069]

It’s funny as an American seeing the can on it. Cause most Americans buying it won’t be able to have that.

[@ff--ji5yj]

You can have suppressors in the US. Only some states have restrictions on owning or hunting with them.

[@FatBoy42069]

@@ff--ji5yj I live in one of those states and from my knowledge most states don’t allow suppressors for hunting.

[@ff--ji5yj]

@@FatBoy42069 In the 42 states where suppressors are legal, they are allowed for hunting in all but two (Connecticut and Vermont)

[@brocwavra8813]

$ 1000 in USA. Its listed for 2099..

[@jackstraughan2652]

Looks like a howa playing dress up? For twice the price ?

[@adamfreed4015]

For the record, 1200GBP is almost $1700USD. Not exactly the most budget option out there.

[@tgsoutdoors]

You guys get it for $999 - so not bad

[@cjfoshu]

Watching Europeans shoot guns is a lot different than watching Americans.

[@patrickangier3919]

Steve Rinella is a left handed shot and shoots a left handed rifle. Like many of the blessed, i too am left handed. Wetherby don’t make left handed rifles. :(

[@gobangs1117]

Weatherby do make left handed rifles, the real Weatherby, the Mark V. The Meateater is a Vanguard II which is a Howa and Howa don't make left handed rifles. I own both a Vanguard II and a Howa 1500 ( have owned several Howas actually) and with the exception of a slightly stiffer stock and a bolt shroud I don't consider the Vanguard to be worth the higher price. They shoot the same.

[@douglasgreaves1137]

Where can you order one from in the UK..?

[@tgsoutdoors]

Any weatherby dealer

[@douglasgreaves1137]

@@tgsoutdoors cool do they have different stock sizes as I’m a tall chap..!

[@tgsoutdoors]

I think there may be some modifications needed

[@Abombsucksalot]

I like the gun but would have preferred it without the fluted barrel.

[@nickolaskunz5735]

Shooting a suppressed rifle from the hood of a car. I wish🥲

[@ryann5247]

James Acaster and Jon Richardson have changed since they got famous

[@tgsoutdoors]

👏 👏 👏 😂

[@andreasulbricht2213]

Not hard to get a "moderator" in Great Britain, but from what I understand, damn near impossible to get a gun.

[@jonpatterson7211]

When I was there last, around '92, the laws were as follows- Handguns were completely banned, no exceptions. To own a shotgun, you had to first find 2 professionals ( doctors, lawyers, etc) who would sign an Affidavit saying you were of good moral character. Then the police had to come to your home and inspect your security arrangements. A gun safe was mandatory. Then, if you already owned a shotgun when the previous laws were in effect, the police would record the make, model and serial number of each shotgun. Then you provided passport sized photos of yourself and filed the necessary forms along with a modest fee. If your request was approved, you then received your "shotgun certificate". If you held it up to your chin and dropped it, it would unfold to about your waistline. Besides the information contained about shotguns that you already owned, the form contained blank spaces. These spaces were used to record any additional shotguns, new or otherwise that you bought or acquired. If you borrowed or lent a shotgun for more than 24 hours, those actions had to be recorded on the certificate as well. All these draconian regulations were in response to a school shooting in the village of Hungerford, England. Ironically, the nutbag responsible didn't use a shotgun to carry out the murders. And yes, moderators or silencers are easy to get. To have a rifle, all of the above applied AND, the police would meet you at the property where you intended to use the rifle. Together, you would walk the property so that the police could be satisfied that if you missed your target, you wouldn't injure or kill someone. Also, unlike with shotgun, you were limited to a certain quantity of ammo for your rifle. I don't recall exactly how much but I believe it was 100 rounds. The police could, if they so chose, visit your home at any time unannounced and inspect your ammo. If you'd had your rifle certificate for a year, lets say, and had only used a few rounds out of your ammo allowance, they could if they so chose, confiscate your rifle and ammo on the grounds that you obviously weren't using it, so keeping it was pointless. I can't stress enough the phrase "if they so chose". All the cops I knew were great guys and left the shooting public alone. Again, that was along time ago and I honestly don't know what the gun laws are like nowadays in the UK. I will say that I doubt they've loosened up any.

[@FATELESSXVX]

how the hell did I end up on gun reviews with brits.

[@roger5322]

I was so afraid you was going to say it was chambered in 30-06. I probably would have stopped watching at that point. I know meateater uses the 30-06 a lot but I hate it. However the .243 is an excellent cartridge. I used a .243 for years. Until about 5 years ago I switched to the .257 Roberts. I still like meateater and as long as you deliver a Humane kill that's what counts. Respect the kill

[@jadenphair-williams9800]

30.06 works just fine for me.

[@roger5322]

@@jadenphair-williams9800 fine, you can have it.

[@Ricossmft28]

@@roger5322 what’s your reasoning for hating it?

[@roger5322]

@@Ricossmft28 I never said it was a ...sound dislike of it, just a dislike of it. It comes mostly from the users of the caliber and not the caliber. Bad shot placement, shooting at moving animal, heavy brush...ect. Either way they are many calibers to choice from. My choice of calibers to use is dependent on many factors. And I have a large range of guns to chose from. From : 22lr, .22mag, .218bee .22 hornet, .223rem, .243, .257 roberts, .308, .7.62×51, 6mm, 25-06, 45-70, STW, .338mag.... Are a few I have to choice from. I choose the gun and caliber to match the hunt. You on the other hand can also use whatever you choose. Peace....

[@BradleyJohnHunt]

Is thatvad a package for 1200 or bare rifle?

[@tgsoutdoors]

Just the Bare rifle I am afraid

[@floggerSG]

Easier to buy a can in England than the states?!

[@SuburbanBushwacker]

Yep. Need a ticket but the cops cant turn you down as its a health and safety feature

[@borderlandpeppers7740]

Hello First Aaawesome Channel :) But this Rifle is definitly not very cheap... for this price you get good sub moa rifles with free floating barrel etc... In my opinion its more a trendy thing for youtube lovers :)

[@tgsoutdoors]

It is definitely a trendy rifle, but that’s ok. Heaps of folk buy regular hats for more cash because they say The name of some football or baseball team on.

[@borderlandpeppers7740]

@@tgsoutdoors yeah thats right, i not say its bad its just not worth its price for someone like me :) Other Question where can i reach you guys i have nothing social media.. But i have a italian side by side double rifle and shotgun barrel set i dont know the producer and find nothing in the internet... i would love to find out more about it :)

[@richardraytrade1737]

It’s sub MOA Accuracy guaranteed… pressure bedding is just as accurate if not more so when done properly - the benefit over free floating is the robustness.

[@tgsoutdoors]

But the internet said free floating is what real snipers use….

[@richardraytrade1737]

@@tgsoutdoors that is true… plus it’s way safer to just buy what your mate has 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@MrJtin69]

I'd rather spend my money on a nosler than weatherby

[@ekim000]

Footballers rifle?

[@Mixwell1983]

Hearing a UK accent on a rifle review is soo odd to me seeing as how impossible it almost is to own firearms in the UK.

[@SuburbanBushwacker]

Its very easy to own rifles and shotguns, hence the TGS channel emanating from a gun shop. I even own a 357 just has to be caseless.

[@kamilklein2880]

Nice rifle, but essentially a HOWA 1500, that can be had for a fraction of the price... But if you want the "cool factor" and support MEAT EATER...it's a fairly priced offer, IMHO. Cheers, K.

[@johnstacy7902]

Zackly. They factory threaded barrels are sometimes hard to find

[@richardraytrade1737]

I wonder if people who make that comment have actually put both rifles side by side - barrelled action made in the same factory, share a footprint, that’s about it: Differences for those that don’t know their rifles - Vanguards have - metal rear bolt shroud - fluted bolt - Weatherby’s own barrel profile - Weatherby’s own stock - fluted barrel - Cerakoted - tighter tolerances Nothing wrong with Howa rifles, but saying “they’re essentially the same” is like saying Remingtons and Bergara’s are the same.

[@kamilklein2880]

I agree on the mentioned differences (don't know about the tighter tolerances, since both are made in the same factory, though). But most are cosmetics (fluting, ceracote...). The construction is mostly identical, while Bergara made essential technical improvements over the Rem 700 design (extractor, recoil lug etc.). So this comparison seems a bit false to me. Cheers, K.

[@richardraytrade1737]

The history of the Vanguard is exactly that - Roy Weatherby went to Howa and asked them to build him a modified version to his own spec. with tighter tolerances - if you pick them up side by side you’ll feel the difference. Cosmetic or not those differences have benefits (corrosion resistance, weight saving, better stock dimensions, etc) and those things cost. If you had all that work done on a Howa it would cost a lot more. There are plenty of Turkish factory’s covertly turning out shotguns for multiple “manufacturers” (brands)… yet because no one knows about it the comparison is never made between the similar guns coming out of the same factory. I don’t think Bergara made any fundamental improvements to the 700 personally, and again I like both rifles - but to me they’re as similar as the Weatherby is to the Howa.

[@kamilklein2880]

Ok. Thank you for this insight! That's why I said, this rifle is a fair offer for the price. Best regards, K.

[@worldgunownersassociation7299]

Knee deep could've only been about 4 inches with him!

[@billthompsoniv8735]

I love the show and pod cast, but Steve should have reached out to a company like Bergara rather than Weatherby. A Vanguard is nothing but a Howa with a different name.

[@bidenhasdementia8657]

$1000 is NOT an affordable rifle. There are so many options available at or under $500 that will perform just as well if not better. It amazes me the gun makers are able to sell bolt action rifles for over 500 anymore.

[@vitaly6312]

You cannot get a great rifle like this for sub $500. I own sub $500 rifles and they’re good, but this is a much better balanced and weighted rifle, has a far superior trigger, and several other features that you simply can’t get in a cheapo rifle. Not saying that you NEED to spend $1000 on your hunting rifle, but I’m saying that there’s a difference. Just like there’s a difference between this and a $5000 rifle.

[@bidenhasdementia8657]

@@vitaly6312 I think what you're saying holds true with the $250 or $299 entry rifles. In my experience, and I've sold guns for 12yrs now, the folks paying $750-2000 are paying for the perception of quality, half buy them and never shoot them or use them once on a guided trip. I can get you a rifle that performs just as well for $450-600 pre scope and mounts.

[@michaelansell2531]

I will take a Tikka over that any day.

[@SL40cal]

I have 2 Tikka's both stainless. Absolutely love them.

[@mrt3206]

I can buy 4 mossberg 6.5 creedmoor for the price of that and shoot the same group😂 and I can get A .300 RUM for the price of that with 1/2 moa guarantee… everything is just cool this cool that for 1000$ you can buy a much “cooler” looking gun if “cool” is what someone is going for😅 other ways to support the brand then buying an over priced gun with a splash of color on the stock.

[@CodyPatrick55]

Mossbergs that shoot that group, let alone any decent group??? Not happening.

[@sparky_-mf2cs]

Mossbergs bolt action are junk. You have a point though maybe a ruger american or a thompson center or a savage

[@terrykeslar9818]

If it's not left handed it ain't shit. :-)

[@theashbys8863]

A price yey Thanks Jonny great vid hope you got given one

[@tgsoutdoors]

Unfortunately not

[@josephindahl6388]

its just a howa

[@tomhman6441]

I disagree, this is a ugly rifle. Give me old fashion wood anytime.