The Mets & Pete Alonso Divorce is getting MESSY | Foul Territory

[@ZaKRo-bx7lp]

Scott Boras is only a good agent to have if you're a top dog in the market. If you're a middle level talent, he's going to reject reasonable offers and screw over players who would have been fine staying at their clubs. Boras, in the end, is just one man with a predictable approach and it doesn't always work.

[@leam89]

Yeah Chapman and Snell ended up more than fine in the end though

[@ZaKRo-bx7lp]

​@@leam89 Montgomery and Raleigh disagree

[@leam89]

@@ZaKRo-bx7lp Montgomery has himself to blame as he was terrible. Nothing is perfect man but he's one of the top agents in sports. I don't like him but that doesn't change that fact. I'm sure he'll be okay off the 40 or so million he made on the Soto contract alone.

[@ZaKRo-bx7lp]

​@leam89 Montgomery definitely had Boras to blame for misleading him into not returning to Texas. He got a raw deal, and so did Pete for rejecting that offer the Mets made him.

[@leam89]

@@ZaKRo-bx7lp I don't agree because it's ultimately up to the player. And if Monti or Alonso had good seasons they probably would have gotten good deals

[@RockPaperScissors13]

Boras serving up the Kool-aid and Pete bellying up for seconds and thirds. Just heartbreaking.

[@jayjayfrmstatefarm9363]

7:20 Mark Vientos hit 27 HRs in only 111 games & had his SLG% was 57 pts higher than Pete. Vientos also had a way better postseason. Pete played 162 games & only hit 34 HRs. Stop downplaying Vientos trying to prop up Pete.

[@ddsara6566]

How long has Vientos done that for?

[@leostoute1176]

You have to based on Body of work Pete has done it for a longer time Vientos a 3rd of a season

[@drzalejandro7]

Lol didnt Pete hit a YUGE dinger off Devin Williams in the playoffs? That man was clutch.

[@xKillZone99]

​@@ddsara6566 he's done it sooner than pete has

[@VenomXNRS]

Met fans are the worst. Turned on Pete with the quickness...again. Play for us for peanuts because according to them he sucked in 24' but expect him to produce like he has in the past.

[@JorgeLaureano]

It’s amazing how you guys are supposed to know baseball but you only discuss the money issues and not the lack of productivity Alonso displayed the entire regular season! Yes, he did hit 34HRs (one more than the team’s shortstop), not 40!! Lindor’s HRs were struck when it most counted to take the lead or tie a game! Most of Alonso’s HRs were incredible moonshots, struck when the team was already leading by 5-6 runs! He had 88RBI and was third on the team! He also led in one other category… strikeouts! In the National league, he’s ranked behind 4 other 1st basemen… Freeman, Harper, Walker and Olson! That doesn’t include guys in the American league! Alonso’s offensive productivity did not contribute greatly to the team’s success in making the playoffs. He’s been on a downspin the last 2 years… These are the numbers they’re throwing at Boras when they discuss justifying his contract demands… You cannot win games if you have players with low batting averages or not being productive with RISP… I like Pete and I wish they could work something out and return, but I’m with management here when considering Pete’s productivity on a contract and most certainly when you’re being asked to bid against yourself!

[@matthew01234]

1st base isn't hard. It's incredibly hard.

[@bullsnyyfan4442]

If Pete stayed with the Mets for one more year, he would benefit big time from hitting behind Soto and leverage that good season into a better free agency next offseason

[@spellegren]

Pete is not too smart and Boras is too greedy.

[@timothyflanagan3641]

Petey is a choke,I would have him batting 6th at best.

[@bullsnyyfan4442]

@@timothyflanagan3641 man if he can’t get the job done with Lindor and Soto on base he’s not worth any big money contract

[@cosmocarbone5486]

Todd Mets fans are not mad at the Mets we are mad at Pete! He’s greedy and not worth any type of $ he wants

[@jaredrubino1889]

“Mark Vientos only hit 27 homers” He only played 110 games bc he started the year in the minor leagues. Pete had 250 more at-bats than him.

[@jrizzle555]

Im a mets fan and regardless of his numbers, he has no market. I love Pete, but he gambled and lost, it happens. You dont always win when you bet on yourself. He lost, but wont admit it. Enjoy the Toronto consolation prize.

[@ACJ-x9x]

@@jrizzle555 Pete screwed Pete! Enjoy 🇨🇦

[@KingFuego-jg2ek]

Bro buuuut it's the polar bear . So unless they pull a Bregman to swing Vientos to first . This is a L bro .

[@yaniyuhara8165]

Steve Cohen is making 2 mistakes this off season: 1. He paid WAY TOO MUCH to Soto. 2. He is being way too stingy on Mets Franchise player, Pete. There’s front-end and back-end contracts. It’s mostly likely owners who end up having short-end of the stick with back-end contract. Steve made mistakes on Verlander and on Scherzer with back-end contract, and he is about to make a big one on Soto. On the other hand Pete produced a lot for Mets with a front-end contract until now. If there’s anyone who deserves an overpaid back-end contract from Steve is Pete. This messy contract negotiation will turn off Mets fans and mess up chemistry in clubhouse !

[@jpcoqueran]

if the Mets win a world series with Soto i don't think Cohen cares much tbh

[@KCJB22291]

Yea you are wrong on every front here. 1. Soto contract wasn't an overpay. An overpay is paying 100 million more than the next team bidding. The Mets paid what they needed to. Not a penny more. 2. Alonso chose to decline a fair extension and bet on himself. Now it's boohoo we are mistreating him?? Nah. He wanted to play the market. Well this is the market. No first baseman is getting a long term contract, and the short terms are around 20mm. Mets went slightly higher. He doesn't like it? Sucks to suck.

[@yaniyuhara8165]

@ That’s a big IF. I also think that “franchise culture” matters. Dodgers have a reputation that Dodgers front office take care of players families. This type of recent Mets transaction colors Mets Franchise as overly generous on outsiders and unnecessarily tough on insiders in my opinion.

[@KCJB22291]

@yaniyuhara8165 the Mets took care of Nimmo and McNeil so that narrative is BS. They have taken care of their homegrown guys. And they would've done the same with Pete. But PETE made it clear he wanted to test the market. It's not the Mets fault the Market bucks and Pete suddenly is in a jam. He made his choice.

[@yaniyuhara8165]

@ 1. Definition of overpay should not be necessarily “slight outbidding” to a second bidder, but be adherence to the player’s intrinsic value in the market. Just because Mets ended up paying a tad more than Yankees, it does not necessarily mean that Mets paid the fair market value to Soto. Rather, Yankees inflated Soto’s market value. 2. I think you are right 50% on this because it takes 2 to tango. However, as far as the image of Mets Franchise, it was Mets who are on the losing end.

[@_STNML]

Cant replace Alonso's homers? Soto hitting 10 homeruns this year?

[@jpcoqueran]

and a full season of Vientos, and hopefully Alvarez takes another step in being consistent

[@ACJ-x9x]

In a Mets fan and I like the way Stearns is handling the negations

[@ddsara6566]

Then you’re a typical not too bright Mets fan.

[@ACJ-x9x]

@ he’s not better than Olsen (he’s being offered more $) he’s not better than Freeman or Vlad

[@cosmocarbone5486]

@@ddsara6566I agree with you

[@nickarenare]

Did they not replace 30 homers with Soto?

[@AliceYobby]

I don't think any Mets fan is going to be upset at anyone besides Boras, lol. Mets fans understand the actual value of Pete, no matter how sentimentally attached they are, and it's not even close to what Boras is asking for.

[@jeffryerlandson1807]

Mets fan since 86. Not a Soto fan because he's a Prima Donna. If the polar bear goes I'm not excited about the team. They keep saying family, but this goes directly against that

[@ddsara6566]

@@jeffryerlandson1807 thank you! Finally a Mets fan that is not a complete hypocrite.

[@OldElJaso]

The glazing for Peter Alonso is absolutely insane with these guys. This man should not be paid as the best first baseman simply because he is a homegrown talent and we have the wealthiest owner in baseball. I know this channel is for the players, but this seems a little excessive given Pete's performance in recent years. How many years did the Brewers make the playoffs consecutively under David Stearn's again?

[@ddsara6566]

@@OldElJaso what did the Brewers win with Stearns again?

[@OldElJaso]

Fair point ddsara6566. David Sterns did not have the most wealthy owner backing him during his time with the Brewers. Trust the process; it worked for us Mets fans last season. I believe Pete had two fair offers on the table, which he declined. My point is that we should start pointing fingers at him as a Mets fans and not the organization.

[@ddsara6566]

@@OldElJaso that’s my point! Stearns is playing this and his pitching staff like he’s the GM of the Twins! He’s not so don’t tell me you would rather let Alonso walk. Don’t tell me Corbin Burnes doesn’t make your starting staff better than adding Frankie Montas! If money is no object, (like it wasn’t for Soto) then what the heck is Stearns doing?

[@OldElJaso]

I honestly didn’t want Corbin Burns because of the amount of years he wanted. And Despite my love for Pete, I would rather take a chance on getting Vlad, Josh Naylor, or Tucker next year. Mets will spend the money but wisely, trust the process.

[@ddsara6566]

@@OldElJasofirst of all I’m not a Mets fan. So I don’t care about the “process”. 2nd if you have money to burn like they did on Soto why would you care about the years for Burnes or Fried? Pay them and you instantly have a WS contender. Right now they are maybe a wild card and maybe not.

[@brandonin_ny]

These guys are something else 😂

[@anthonymaiori7055]

Pete is very greedy and once he got Boris it was over. He screwed himself

[@ddsara6566]

Who’s Boris?

[@anthonymaiori7055]

@ddsara6566 The geeedist agent in Baseball

[@Njc451]

Just ask Boras about Jordan Montgomery. LOL he doesn't care because he still gets a cut

[@leam89]

Yeah Montgomery screwed himself from poor performance. Snell and Chapman ended up more than fine

[@JorgeLaureano]

Guys!!! No one is asking Vientos to replace Pete's numbers!!! That was already done by the acquisition of Soto!! 41HRs & 109 RBI...

[@kyland2394]

You don’t get and pay Soto all that money to REPLACE someone’s numbers. You acquire him to add on more major numbers

[@ddsara6566]

Will Soto have Judge behind him? If not don’t count on 41 / 109.

[@xKillZone99]

​@ddsara6566 without judge he hit 35 homers 109 RBI's so what's your point?

[@ddsara6566]

@@xKillZone99 if you think he’s going to put up better numbers than that in Citifield with Vientos behind him you’re kidding yourself. That’s my point. And have fun watching him play right field in that ballpark.

[@xKillZone99]

@ddsara6566 he literally put up 35 homers and 109 RBI's with no protection playing for the Padres whos the the 3rd worst hitters park in baseball (mets are 9th worst) but the rest of the division are all better hitter ballparks than the yankees stadium except for Braves who are right behind the yankees according to statcast. please do research before embarrassing yourself next time

[@jwvvvv]

Hard to believe that the two sides can't come to an agreement. Pete never should have hired Scott Boras.

[@moondoggyJ55]

Pete's problem is he doens't walk enough

[@jackfurlong28]

Vitentos played in 111 games last year and hit 27 homers, over that span, over a full season he could replace Alonso’s production

[@Am0ment0fB]

And who's gonna replace Vientos' 27? Stop it now. 🛑 Ha.

[@GFS695]

You can't bank on vientos, have no idea what he's going to do, Pete is an established player that has put up big numbers, we need him.

[@chrishall6642]

@@GFS695 Pete is a declining player. They signed Juan Soto

[@thirdlantern]

Mediocre defense, slow, 240 average, streaky. I understand they have a very limited window of opportunity to cash in, but c'mon. Pete should have taken the 7-year deal back in 2023 before he started to decline.

[@JamesCostello-w8y]

Who’s going to replace those 30-40 home runs? Umm, Soto? I think we can all agree Soto is a better player than Pete, as such, the Mets are slightly better on paper offensively than they were last year if Pete doesn’t sign. If Pete does sign they are much better offensively this year.

[@jpcoqueran]

Soto and a full season of Vientos. Be for real for a second. Id rather Christian walker and his defense over Pete, but its too late for that. someone else can overpay for him now.

[@ddsara6566]

Is the pitching better? 3rd place

[@petejerzee]

Scott you’re a clown. 130$ mil??!!! 😂

[@TankH-z3z]

Three years is legit. 30 a year is resonable given what was given for soto

[@roz0n]

This is going to bite the Mets like Daniel Murphy did. Leave it to Mets fans to rag on their own homegrown player like in these comme. Good orgs understand there's a locker-room dynamic and Pete is clearly an important part of that.

[@ney7515]

Moving Vlad out of 1B on his walk year?

[@kevindavis9350]

Krats is right it irritates fans on any big deal like this but the anger is as much with the player. The owner takes all the risk. Also Pete hit 217 in 23 and 240 in 24. Most players that have seasons like that keep falling. Hence Arenado nobody wants

[@UchuKejiMovan]

My question for Todd and anyone else on Pete's side is What would YOU offer him?

[@richardhausig9493]

I want to agree that this is not settled but I don't see SC undermining Stearns here. Maybe I'm wrong but I think he's gotta let the GM do his job

[@wickedkiller6906]

They just signed Minter.

[@Debi61]

The deal the Mets offered had no opt outs. Pete wants opt outs. Cohen is a disgrace. Wilpons were better. Certain players are favorites. Look at what the team looks like now. I respect the Yankees more right now.

[@chrisnalina1755]

Why should they give him any opt out? How about the Mets getting an opt out? Why would you care or want Alonso to get opt outs?

[@ScottyBraun-FoulTerritory]

simply, they made him an offer he was going to refuse

[@TankH-z3z]

Give the guy the hundred mil

[@jaredrubino1889]

Guys the mets signed Juan Soto! they’re gonna have a hard time replacing Pete’s 35 homers? Look at it this way; they replaced Alonso as a middle of the order bat with a top 5 player in the game. Massive upgrade. Also Vientos “only had 27 homers” but he did it in 111 games and w 250 less plate appearances than Pete Alonso who had 34. This is crazy.

[@kevinkopko7887]

True diva soto cannot even speak English plus they give his family of illegals a suit how insane who is going to pay the HIGH ticket price.. Not Me 🤬🤬🤬🤬

[@xKillZone99]

vientos has played first base in the minors

[@nik1800]

5 years 110 is no difference that 3 years 70.

[@jpcoqueran]

the production.

[@createdrosters]

Vientos is not a better fielding 1B than Pete right now but he definitely could be with some time. Also Pete is not a 50 homer bat he just isn’t. He did it just one time his rookie year. He is a mid 30s to early 40s homer guy. Still great but not 50 - it’s not even a given he hits 40 ever again

[@sni6941]

Guys, whatever you think who and who deserve how much, you need to look at the whole MLB spending. No one besides 5,6 teams are willing to go over the tax and go all in ! You have surplus of good big name players than teams want to spend! Period! I am sure Mets will go very hard after Vlad, teams are not cheap, but they are also not dumb or don’t care about smart decisions.

[@eddya.3776]

Kratz they signed Soto remember. I think Soto more than covers what Pete Alonso can do. The smart move is to do what the Mets are doing. Move Vientos and hope one of the youngsters grabs the brass ring at third. You don't pay a $15M a year guy over $30M that's called stupid. He's just not worth what he's asking it's that simple.

[@spellegren]

They'd be paying even more than that due to luxury tax.

[@DanielMadden-yz3mo]

You are a former player so you think that pete should get the money that he wants its not worth the risk when you see how he production has gone down

[@moosemcgillicuddy7585]

I'm sorry, but if you can play 3rd base at at least competently, you can play 1st base for sure.

[@SayerofThings]

People need to dump boras. It's always the same game. Max max max.

[@spellegren]

Pete is a one trick pony in obvious decline. I'm fine with letting go of Pete. Mets fans get way too emotionally attached to players.

[@ddsara6566]

So much for Mets “family”!

[@jpcoqueran]

sometimes you gotta give em tough love for them to understand. Petes gonna learn today

[@ddsara6566]

@ or the family bs was complete nonsense?

[@KCJB22291]

Lol. It is a family, and guess what, the Mets did their part. They offered an extension. Turned down. They offered the highest 3 year AAV on the 1B market. Turned down. At some point you cut loose. If pete and boras are gonna insist on 30MM/yr then walk. Pete isn't better than Olson or Freeman. And Guerrero Jr is right there. Pete and Boras fucked it all up

[@jamesstinedurf9841]

give Soto everything and be stingy with your own guy lol. i'm not surprised though considering i think they want Vladdy

[@TheTEN24]

I honestly don’t buy these reports I think like Todd said it’s everyone just playing leverage and being hard to get. I still see Pete coming back to the Mets no other team is as competitive as they are.

[@pingamalinga]

Stearns is playing serious hardball with Boras.

[@ddsara6566]

@@pingamalingalike he did with Soto right? Richest owner in baseball! 😂

[@pingamalinga]

@@ddsara6566 Cohen led the Soto negotiation. He wanted the prize. He is letting Stearns drive the Alonso deal

[@ddsara6566]

@ he’s letting small market Stearns drive them into 3rd place in the East.

[@only_2_genders]

He doesn't deserve the money he wants

[@arielgo]

these ball players will always take the ball player" side

[@johnrobinsonherrera3]

Do a sign and trade deal

[@allandenola5968]

Don’t think he will ever hit 50 home runs again - pie in the sky

[@zachw2889]

Screw the internet. Bring back our guy! He’s the most loved met since wright

[@ronaldhull8057]

Look, I remember when Tom Seaver was traded and Darrell Strawberry walked. Alonso is definitely not in their category, so enjoy your next team!

[@zachw2889]

@ booo different time. And Pete makes our team. Sooooooo much better

[@wilwhite8557]

Oh well bye bye Pete, I stand with Stearns and the Mets 🙌🏽

[@JohnSopik]

Who care players are getting paid millions of dollars to play a game. So stop crying and sign a contract with whoever.

[@kenip9800]

The Mets are showing a lot of faith that one of their kids can seize the 3B job. Hope they're right.

[@jesusruvalcaba9013]

They already replaced his hr output with juan soto

[@wilwhite8557]

Sounds like Pete’s ego has gotten to big 🙌🏽

[@ddsara6566]

Or cohen shot his load on Soto and is cheaping out.

[@eemoreau]

Pete Alonso is the Right Met Player! Let’s play Ball ! ⚾️ ⚾️ Give Pete a good Contract that he can Live up to it!!! He’s one of us!!! FantasticoMets69…over 5 Decades a Mets Fan & counting!!!😅🎉😂

[@newms69]

nope

[@leostoute1176]

We have to bring Pete back ! The only way I’ll accept this is if Vald is coming Pete is home grown and has a chance to hit 500 homers

[@OldWest-z7n]

Alonso has seen his best years. No more than 90 mil. If not, then call it a day. Have patience everyone.

[@nacholibre8628]

It’s simple people are over exaggerating about the line up it’s a simple fix honestly put McNeil in the lead off spot infront of lindor and Soto the guy will rake !!! The Mets put Daniel Murphy infront of cepedes and it changed his career and that line up back in 2015 . McNeil is a batting champion 1 McNeil 2 lindor 3 Soto 4 Vientios 5 Nimmo 6 winker 7 Alvarez 8 siri 9 Mauricio

[@mel-nq6re]

How sweet the sight will be if we're looking at the NL East standings in late September only to see the Met$ in 4th place. 🤭

[@ddsara6566]

@@mel-nq6re oh boy. That would be interesting especially if Soto is sitting on 25 hrs and .270 without Judge protecting him.

[@pilgrim1548]

Talk about the Mets running back 2023, and garnering the weakest win value per dollar value rosters in the league.

[@kevinkopko7887]

I have been a Met fan since I was born if Pete walks I will no longer support that team Hey Todd thanks for the memories I was at the home run derby in 2015 when he won that derby at home in Cincinnati 👍👍👍👍