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[@cosmicspark6772]

the way that all of the adults expected a 17 year old to lead an entire rebellion is CRAZY.

[@paddyq3235]

The thing is they didn't. They wanted to use her as a tool to spark the rebellion but she has no control she's just a figure head, a puppet under their control. The only reason they give her any freedom is to keep her under their control. That's kind of the whole point of Mockingjay. A lot of people didn't like that Katniss isn't the one to actually end the war. They complained that she just ends up dying on the ground after the parachute bombs while the war is finished elsewhere, but thats the whole point. Katniss was never meant to end the war, actually she was really just a means to an end to begin the war, to give Coin enough support from Panem to destroy the capital. The only reason Coin lets Katnias go out into the field was that it allowed her to film more propos and if Katniss died they had a martyr they could use to rally Panem against Snow. The only moments in the books where Katniss has any agency are when she volunteers in Prims place and when she kills Coin. Killing Coin ended the games once and for all and liberated Katniss.

[@blurrynights4751]

take it to the extreeme and you'll find adults expecting a baby to defeat a dark lord lol

[@rebornvenus]

Greeta Thunberg is leading the climate revolution. She was a child when she started all of that and gained recognition for being the face of it.

[@KaiInMotion]

Historically a lot of revolutionaries were teens and early 20s. And also right now a disturbing number of soldiers are teens. But they didn't want Katniss to lead, a lot of the average people saw her as a folk hero revolutionary. But the adults in the revolution mainly seemingly wanted her to be a figurehead with no ability to make leadership choices.

[@juanmanuelmoramontes3883]

​@@FreyadaysSo they saw her as the leader... Got it.

[@payt00n]

"Men go through one bad breakup in life and make it everyone's problem for the rest of their life" - a review after Ballad of songbirds and snakes

[@rish_30]

damn i saw this and GAGGED

[@valphabetsoup]

Also pretty much sums up Gale‘s whole character arc

[@blacknonbinarydisabledlesbian]

I mean, it was snows fault he picked greed over love

[@PouchyTheCanadianAlpaca]

​@blacknonbinarydisabledlesbian if im not wrong,in the movie (idk if its in the book ive been willing to buy it but i havent found ones in my first language) snow wanted to kill lucy ,right?

[@blacknonbinarydisabledlesbian]

@@PouchyTheCanadianAlpaca yup yup. After she realized he was a monster who would rather support the capitols oppression to secure his family's finances than join the rebellion and put an end to the games. He used her as an excuse to keep the games going.

[@alti2b]

As horrific as Prim's death and Peeta's brainwashing were, I actually kinda love how real Suzanne Collins was for that because it so clearly demonstrates the effects of war. From the beginning, Katniss' goal was always ultimately to save Prim, whereas Peeta's was for the Capitol not to change him. In the end, they both LOST what they had been fighting so hard for, which, while heartbreaking, is also so realistic. Also anyone who defends Gale, girl, he literally designed bombs with two detonations specifically to allow innocent medics and civilians to run in and get blown to bits too. He did not give a rat's ass about committing war crimes until it affected someone he knew. Also, even then, in the book all he is doing is feeling sorry for himself that Prim's death blew any chance he had with Katniss. Like homeboy was feeling sorry for HIMSELF while the girl he claimed he loved was sitting there having just lost her sister. Trash.

[@calvintyler9281]

It's sorta like young snow where even with the people he claims to love it's still really all about him.

[@uhohmykokoro1616]

Yes to all this 🙌 And for the second part specifically, yes louder for the people in the back. He knew civilians would be killed, he was fine with that. Only regretted it bc Prim happened to be one of those civilians

[@ivyyyyyy726]

gale has more anger and hatred than humanity, and it will destroy him and the people he loves around him. I know people like this in my life, and I've watched them destroy themselves like a boms

[@countlitmogaphil392]

its always easier to judge from afar, truth is the that people like katniss dont actually win wars. Theres never been a war where innocent people havent been killed by the 'good guys'

[@alti2b]

@@countlitmogaphil392 there’s a MASSIVE difference between acknowledging that civilians and innocents will die in war and actively gunning for them. Gale designed those bombs with the specific target being innocents and medics, which, by the way, is a war crime. Also in District 2 in the books he actively wanted to just bury all the people in the Nut alive without allowing anyone the chance to leave because he was just fuelled by hatred. Ultimately they left one exit open to allow them to surrender, but he just straightup wanted to murder everyone there, including civilians and rebel spies. Yes, innocents die in war, but decision-makers should always do their utmost to keep this to a minimum. He wanted to maximize it. So yes, I will judge, and I will judge harshly, because that is absolutely vile and he is a literal war criminal.

[@lizcamp16]

the joke about donald sutherland playing snow a little too well was funny but i feel the need to point out that back in the 70s he actually protested the vietnam war so much that he had the cia on his ass😭 also i forget exactly what interview it was but on the press run for catching fire the cast was asked how they felt about the series' political overtones and he had a really insightful response

[@bananalanz]

Damn that's awesome, I didn't know that!

[@e_clown]

omg i need the link to that interview i have to stan

[@elana8274]

I feel like people who play villains well are always actually so cool in real life because they understand the complexity and dark tones to real life. They understand the bad and why it's bad. They know what is wrong and right, and they're able to show you why these characters are evil in the proper way so u DON'T end up liking them. Because they shouldn't be liked whatsoever.

[@danielaardila5081]

@@e_clown Big same! Edit: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rp-ndGttdqearrs maybe is this one

[@christianwise637]

@@elana8274 To quote something someone said on the site formerly known as Twitter the other day "no one could’ve played a horrifying warmongering murderer like president snow except for someone who deeply despises the likes of him"

[@RocketOcean18]

I feel like Effie’s development is never talked about enough. Like, she turned against the capital (the only home and life she’s ever known) to support Katniss, Peeta, and Haymitch because of how deeply she grew to care about them. You could even see in Catching Fire once she started realizing how truly awful the games were, when she had to pull their names again for the Quarter Quell. And her last scene where she’s crying seeing Katniss go back to District 12 always gets me

[@layane1900]

I think it's not talked about much because this only happens in the movies, in the books they don't know what happened to her after the second games and they even say something about it being unrealistic to portray her like a rebel

[@Melanie-jy2nw]

that's Because the people who tend to do analysis and all that are usually basing them on the books where Effie never went to 13.

[@estebk]

I always thought that she was handled so much better in the movies.

[@adrianduke9648]

@@layane1900 She was low key one of my fav characters in the movies. But I understand they were obviously written differently in the books compared to the movies.

[@e_clown]

i read your comment and I logged in just to give it a like because IT'S SO TRUE. She's truly one of the best characters and one of the most lovable and strong since she actually had to go through those games (and maybe way before Katniss was chosen) without saying a thing UNTIL she realised with her how the games were so extreme and horrible to the tribute's families. UGH Effie really needs her spin-off she's so queen and a diva, period.

[@VoidGian]

The fact that Snow was the only one who gave his condolences to Katniss about her sister. He was such an amazing villain.

[@barbara832001]

Peeta did too.

[@cococovers1333]

peeta did, at the end. And i don't think snow had ANY sympathy for Katniss, he just said that to manipulate her one last time

[@H.annahPaige]

girl i thought this channel was a safe space, but then you go and hit us with the EDIT??! ENOUGH 😭

[@elysabelaudet]

Right ? ITS THE CURSED EDIT'S COMEBACK ! Its literally EVERYWHERE and i cant escape it 😭

[@coconoisette_]

literally in tears we're never safe

[@LeticiaMonteiiro]

can you blow my whistle baby

[@elysabelaudet]

@@LeticiaMonteiiro "Whistle, baby let me know Girl imma show you how to do it And we'll start real slow Just put your lips together and then come real close" Stop, i'm getting flashbacks to singing it back then and thinking it really was about whistling 😭

[@LeticiaMonteiiro]

​@@elysabelaudetplss I was so obsessed with this song when I was a kid too, when I saw whistle trending again because of that Josh edit I had war flashbacks lolol

[@wesley1340]

THE HUNGER GAMES is probably the only TEEN DYSTOPIAN SAGA that aged like fine wine , cause some others aged like milk

[@elizabethhudspeth103]

*cough* divergent *cough*

[@notaudreyiswear]

@@elizabethhudspeth103I remember back then the discourse between divergent fans vs thg fans back then was crazy😭 even fighting who’s better between Tris and Katniss

[@Shirin1903]

@@notaudreyiswearallegiant singlehandedly ruined the trilogy. Not to mention the ending💀.

[@notaudreyiswear]

@@Shirin1903 After divergent I don’t even know what happened to the next movies after that💀 I don’t remember anything from it at all😭

[@miidnxghts]

you can just say divergent

[@dannytorres_xo]

Katniss’ “if we burn, YOU BURN WITH US” is peak cinema and you can’t change my mind

[@ameliahoward8424]

I heard someone say that Lucy Gray was a performer forced to hunt & Katniss was a hunter forced to perform & something clicked in my brain when i heard that especially watching mockingjay

[@JiixBooks]

Rachel Zegler said that in an interview 💜

[@ameliahoward8424]

@@JiixBooks omg i knew it was from somewhere thank u for correcting this!!

[@JiixBooks]

@@ameliahoward8424 no problem!

[@marim8494]

Not to nitpick, but i think she said fighter who was forced to perform/performer forced to fight! :)

[@ameliahoward8424]

@@marim8494 yea i would say that is nitpicking 😁

[@dan_38]

Small fact on the peeta interviews: Jennifer wasn't allowed to see Josh the whole time they were on set, so for her to see him was emotionally hurting her, and the producers were like "yep, that's the shot were looking for"

[@trz4382]

That's so evil they're like bestie boos 😭

[@yasmincampos7831]

naming a military leader who uses the excuse of overthrowing a dictator by employing the exact same tactics as said dictator COIN is such a slay, i just know Ms Collins had to walk around her house afterward

[@mariannestrgzr9374]

Omg I JUST realized it thanks to your comment! Two sides of the same coin! It might be because I only read HG in french, in which "Coin" doesn't translate to money but to "quack" (literally the sound a duck makes lmao) so I never made the connection!!!

[@milky_quartz]

there's layers to this

[@20000dino]

@@mariannestrgzr9374 So this whole time, you actually thought she was named after the duck onomatopoeia 😭😭

[@gabrielabaciu998]

@@20000dino she was a quack lmao

[@Lucylu644]

I mean… that’s actually what tends to happen after a lot of revolutions. Usually when media tries to depict revolutions, they only stick to the overthrowing and completely disregard the transition part. I was surprised that Suzanne took that direction. I’m glad she did

[@dreireyster]

Annie going mad after watching her district partner get decapitated in the games and then Finnick dying in the book from decapitation…Suzanne Collins was sick for that

[@ShamaD274]

Wasn't he attacked by mutts and they fired an explosive arrow at him? Or am I remembering it wrong? It's been years lol

[@dan_38]

​@ShamaD274 a mutt managed to grab Finnick's head in its mouth before Katniss actived the holo's self-destruct sequence

[@ShamaD274]

@@dan_38 oh my GOD NO WAY

[@LinTree25]

Well I hope she didn't find out these details 😢

[@dan_38]

@LinTree25 they just acknowledge he died a war hero, who helped save the mockingjay, body unable to recover from the self-sacrificing explosion

[@raagikumar9944]

I LOOOOVE how Haymich says 'I'm with the Mockingjay.' Its like he knows that Katniss is planning something greater in her head, so he indirectly tells her that whatever you are doing, I'm with you.

[@ipek8209]

the parallels between this story & the current news is so glaring and scary... you can't support characters who are fighting oppression but not support it when it's real people doing the same thing.

[@grasshopperye3593]

Facts. Her speech about bombing hospitals and seeing the ruins of district 12 I was like...sure we're not watching real life

[@antand9652]

the movies and books also explicitly emphasize that justice should not come at any cost (taking civilian lives)

[@degummybear]

People who unconditionally support Israel or excuse their behavior, watch this movie and don't realize they're advocating for the Capital. I know Ashley is too polite to say it so I will.

[@rotemfu6229]

yeah exactly, like how hamas bombed the same hospital in israel like 3 times...@@grasshopperye3593

[@ipurpleu1668]

@@grasshopperye3593 It's because it's history repeating itself. It's an endless cycle.

[@Margo_ladydeath]

It's so disgusting how the hospital scene is a real thing happening, it's not just some horrible clip in a movie.

[@Sofie2734]

🍉🍉🍉 💕

[@ali.831]

It’s horrific .. and we are watching young people reporting on the mass destruction of their homes and the g***** of their people .. 🍉🤍

[@accioyoongi]

it really is💔🍉

[@sassylittleprophet]

🍉🍉🍉

[@eithnedoyle6007]

🍉🍉🍉

[@rodyxcx164]

And the fact that Snow was the only one who apologize for Prim's death... That also gag me

[@zoc.6922]

Gale (even with how traumatized he was) couldn’t see past himself and his ego. He was saying all this big stuff about what Peeta “should and shouldn’t” say and how “weak” Peeta was when he was literally being tortured. Peeta actually went to the games 2x unlike Gale. That’s ultimately how he ended up killing those kids. Colin was able to use that against him.

[@robchicken6820]

He was the first to volunteer in risk of his own life to get him out the Capital when he learned that he was still on their side though.

[@zoc.6922]

@@robchicken6820 wasn’t that after Peeta put his life at risk by warning Katnis on TV? Regardless, Gale (just like everyone else) thought Peeta was weak for breaking under torture. It still comes down to his ego. He’s judging from outside the situation.

[@Mia_M]

@@robchicken6820 I think it was done more for Katniss' sake than anything. Gale doesn't understand anything about anything because he can't see past his own nose.

[@lilithismybabydaddy452]

That's not true. He was blinded by his hatred and revenge towards his oppressors that he couldn't see that him taking pages out of their books will ultimately continue the cycle.

[@zoc.6922]

@@lilithismybabydaddy452 that blind hatred towards his oppressors led him to thinking he was above certain behaviors (like him thinking he wouldn’t break under torture like Peeta or helping make a bomb that kills Prim) which, is his ego. He can’t see past himself. That’s what Coin manipulated. He couldn’t see he was building a system that would oppress others because he thought he was above that.

[@slushieslut42096]

The way that I totally forgot that Prim is technically 13 YEARS OLD IN MOCKINGJAY.

[@lazerman27]

42:40 in the books it also ends on a darker tone because they make it very clear the kids are playing in the meadow above all the buried bodies from district 12. suzanne collins really knows how to write tragedy and bittersweet "victories" where it's just learning to survive after the tragedy

[@Mohammadzabuasi]

I’m a Palestinian and I recently read all The hunger games books and the prequel (I watched the movies way before though) and seeing and realizing all the parallels with the genocide that’s been happening broke my heart, I don’t know how some people root and cheer for fictional characters fighting the oppression but then in the real world they stay silent or don’t even realize the parallels!! Like did the message fly by or what?? I could literally name so many parallels to the real world (what’s happening in Palestine) and discuss for hours, how do so many people enjoy these movies and not get the message Suzanne was trying to deliver?!

[@diamelisynfante9801]

At this point I think some people are choosing to not to at this point

[@Keineryn]

I remember watching part one with my sister a few days ago and having a mental breakdown and panic attack after watching the hospital scene. It reflects what’s happening in Palestine so clearly, and yet people are still so blind to the fact that they are standing with what is reality’s capitol.

[@Mohammadzabuasi]

@@diamelisynfante9801 Exactly and it’s disappointing.

[@Mohammadzabuasi]

@@Keineryn Yess exactly!! The hospital scene will forever be engraved in my mind, it mirrors the true reality of what happened and still happening today, when I first read the scene I felt so much sadness, not just from it but from knowing a scene happened just like it in real life a few days before I read it.

[@juanmanuelmoramontes3883]

Some of us are silent because we really can't do anything about it.

[@DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose]

Snow's granddaughter fearfully undoing her braid after the showcase they made of it in Catching Fire is such a small yet significant moment that really helps set the stage for the Mockingjay storyline. 🌟 And yeah no, I def. still be eating dinner through that interview regardless of what Flickerman says. I can do two things at once, dude! 😉

[@GingerIntrovert]

OH GIRL SAME...every time I see that I get chills because she knows her grandpa would murder her for treason, no hesitation.

[@_adrian_sean]

RIGHT?! The fact that she knew even her blood or his fondness for her wasn't really shxt at the end of the day

[@neqawi]

Ash: "We made it, we watched all that and didn't cry" Me, weeping and blowing my nose: "We sure did 😭"

[@Mjolnir-cz4jb]

The way that people were absolutely on Katniss' side when this movie came out but now that this is actually happened people don't bat an eye. Have we learned NOTHING????

[@enini6220]

No, literally! 😭 It seems people will only support resistance of the oppressed when it's "fictional." And apparently, resistance is only reserved for a particular group of people, haha...🙃 The double-standards go CRAZY. That's why I love the parallels between the Hunger Games and the world. Our reality is really not far off from it at all. :(

[@lunacouer]

I hope you can take heart. In the history of the US? This is so rare, to have such an organized, large-scale condemnation against a genocide in a totally different country. The last time it happened was during the Vietnam War, and that's because we were there. Otherwise, most people didn't care. Out of sight, out of a mind - just a headline in a newspaper with your morning coffee. I don't think it's a coincidence that the same people that grew up with these books and movies saw the videos coming out of Palestine and immediately cried out. They've boosted it, rallied their friends, protested, and written their elected officials because they know exactly what this is. They've already seen it. So yes, there are too many who aren't batting an eye. The better news is there's so many crying and wanting to stop it.

[@blacknonbinarydisabledlesbian]

I don't see you over there fighting against oppression so I guess... Shut up hypocrite

[@trinaq]

Jennifer Lawrence pretending to be a bad actress was hilarious! Also, I wish that they'd gone into more detail over Finnick being forced to prostitute himself at age 14 to save his family from the Capitol.

[@ook4698]

not to be rude (im just confused), but why would you want more details on that?? and what details could they even give that would be warranted?

[@anthonyhowlett]

probably want it to highlight just how evil the capitol really is but i think the movies showed that pretty effectively anyway.​@ook4698

[@ook4698]

@@anthonyhowlett thats what i was thinking thats why im like ?? LMAO but ig i get it?? idk as a csa victim im GLAD they didnt go into more detail

[@justinehercthehuman]

​@@anthonyhowlett tbh, I forgot about it ever being a detail in the movies, i asked my friends about it and they also didn't remember it. so I guess it wasn't that effective.

[@JNDReacts]

Not that this is any better, but they waited until Finnick turned 16.

[@MultiBandgeek]

Heartbreaking how Prim didn’t know Katniss was alive then she see’s her for the last time before the explosion 😭😭😭

[@sleepymari8915]

Why would you tell me this oh my god, i didn't know 😭😭

[@flora0713]

no wtf ur gonna make me cry stop 😭

[@dex4879]

Even in an internet mom video i am still not fucking safe from the josh hutcherson whistle meme 😫😫😫

[@dex4879]

but really what did i expect from a hunger games video

[@lau_bowery]

and the fact that in the interview w peeta as a capitol weapon, he's wearing a white suit with a tie that resembles a dagger to his neck. the DETAILS this movie has. amazing.

[@AxelaxiB]

The most sad detail is the cat doesn’t flinch and starts purring when she starts holding them like they understood where the anger was coming from and was just there to comfort her. In the same way she did for her sister.

[@brookiiecookie199]

The way this film and overall franchise is too real with the current Palestine genocide occurring, ESPECIALLY the reaction to Peeta calling for a ceasefire like 🧍‍♀️.

[@cbm5643]

Prim's death was the only thing from the books I could never recover from. It made everything Katniss did feel pointless to me, even if it wasn't. I hated that it happened.

[@ghinanaeem5723]

And that is how you write a story about the futility of war

[@cbm5643]

Indeed. Exactly as heartbreaking, sickening, traumatizing and soul sucking as war. Leaves you with a void for a heart that can't ever be really filled @@ghinanaeem5723

[@celesterodriguez6777]

@@ghinanaeem5723 omggg your comment

[@redlovestaylor]

Effie saying “They’ll either want to kiss you, kill you, or be you” to Katniss after giving her the Mockingjay outfit is one of my mom’s all time favorite movie quotes. Also she met Elizabeth Banks at a restaurant in Atlanta where I live and I was SO JEALOUS.

[@BrittnaeToo]

The author actual wrote the book when she saw the war in Iraq and how the media portrayed the violence so much it was like she was watching reality tv with war and death as the central theme.

[@witheredahlia]

i do not understand how people can claim to love THG movies but won’t speak up against what’s happening right now. war crimes are being committed right under our eyes yet everybody’s eyes are closed.

[@___Somebody___]

they like oppressed ppl resisting only if they are white

[@lauragodinho5379]

Because on the one hand I’d also like to retain somewhat of a will to live

[@___Somebody___]

@@lauragodinho5379 nobody is trying to kill you breathe

[@diamelisynfante9801]

@@lauragodinho5379I get that but we can’t just ignore what going on because we feel like we don’t want to see, it’s important for us to see and fight for the people going through horrible shit

[@nyahjeon]

understand how privileged you are to be able to use media to "retain somewhat of a will to live" while I assume in the comfort of your own home as actual people are being killed in Gaza who fear for their lives every day.@@lauragodinho5379

[@mariemadlenek]

Suzanne Collin’s is a literary genius, the amount of symbolism and relevance that these books and movies contain will always have me stunned

[@francescarosalia3839]

The mockingjay movies were never "the bad ones", we were just too young to really GET them.

[@rinina]

The movies themselves are a little dull but the writing is spectacular, i feel like if they did these as one singular movie it would have been wayyy better

[@s.chou9]

OMG YESSSSSSS!!! when i watched them as a teen i found them “boring” but watching it as adult its so eye opening and you notice how much it parallels with real life events, so crazy

[@kingcastlequeenbeckett]

My only problem was how much Gale is in it. We should have had more Finnick and Katniss bonding, since no one else’s understands their trauma more than each other. But no, someone decided Gale whining about Katniss loving him or not was more important when there’s a literal war going on.

[@MelissaB724]

"IF WE BURN _YOU BURN WITH US!_ " goddd chills every damn time

[@Bubbles_Art]

The fire is catching broski

[@mjewrites]

Still blows my mind that Snow is the same guy who played the father in Pride and Prejudice. I mean duh that’s what acting is but he’s just convincing in completely opposite roles.

[@grasshopperye3593]

Omg, that was donald?! How does that movie keep doing this to me, I already went through this when I found out Tom from Succession was Mr Darcy

[@mjewrites]

@@grasshopperye3593same! How can you go from “you have bewitched me body and soul” to “her bag is ludicrously capacious”

[@valmuepoppy]

"i'm with the mockingjay" was just SUCH a perfect line, bc while coin thought it was just him in agreeance with the games, haymitch meant that he's only agreeing BECAUSE of katniss, and that he's on her side and no one elses. no matter what she plans to do GOD SUZANNE I COULD KISS U

[@notaudreyiswear]

Gale just breathing and Ashley getting irritated is sending me everytime 😭😭 because I do the same

[@Marta-uv4id]

Seeing how similar the situation in these movies is to things happening right now is way too depressing. Katniss' speech after the hospital bombing hits way too close.

[@mjewrites]

With everything happening in Gaza, I really appreciate the scene when Katniss said “they bombed a hospital full of innocent MEN, women, and children.” Too often I’ve seen people only refer to helping women and children when the men are just as human and deserving of life, shelter, and safety as they are.

[@ShipFantastic]

Exactly! 👏

[@marcuss.9302]

It's "Fuck Gale" on this side, y'all already know

[@rsync9490]

In mockingjay, as soon as Katniss described Coin I immediately thought, "Well this one is a control freak." So I never saw her as anything remotely heroic, and her regime in district 13 is so blatantly totalitarian.

[@GgGhost]

I love how in the first three movies Gale is just mildly dislikable, like he's pretty toxic towards Katniss but aside from that he's a pretty nice guy. But when it comes to the last one he's just "yo, who's up for some war crimes?" and well, we know how that ends up

[@AngelusaNobilis]

Legit the only time I cried in Mockingjay was when she was yelling at the cat. For anyone who has really experienced grief, that scene hits so hard.

[@Mr.-Roybot]

All I know is somewhere Miss Lucy Gray Baird is sitting in a field of flowers with her 8 grandchildren and singing her sweet old heart out. Stay mad Coriolanus!

[@Bubbles_Art]

She is dead by now

[@nicolettemaloy]

The parallels between Lucy Gray and Katniss are impossible to miss… however I think a more direct parallel to katniss is sejanus (both compassionate rebels) while Peeta is so much like Lucy Gray (somewhat calculated still compassionate though and both are performers in their own way). But Peeta also has parallels to sejanus as well. No wonder snow couldn’t stand either of them

[@lollabunyxxx]

is honestly more dystopian (and saddening) living in a world where people watch this movie, applaud and support the oppressed protagonists, yet don't seem to think the lives of Palestinian people are worth being protected. like, the west is the capitol fr fr (lisa ferval did in entire video just on this topic btw, check it out)

[@singracia1]

You are born in a certain place, follow a certain religion or got too much melanin and then your rebellion isn't just or cool anymore, they call you a savage and a terrorist, well damn at least I was born in a country that isn't the evil on earth miss me with that American shit

[@littlelordfuckleroy3822]

For real, the sight of District 12 looking indistinguishable from a destroyed Gaza and the bombing of the hospital should be able to clue fans of this story in on the fact that Israel and the west are oppressors

[@khouloudmel]

no cause you're so right. adding on top of that the fact that FRANCIS LAWRENCE directed like four of the hg movies (including the prequel) but then wrapped his job up, then went and signed the letter thanking biden for what hes doing to provide the opressor with more power???

[@AnahiViturino]

The West are both Snow and Coin

[@hermionegranger1096]

Damn, the parallels are just hitting too hard with this movie w/ real world events 😭, it's so hard to watch this movie now and think of it as entertainment with the real life themes it covers, the disgusting act of bombing hospitals, the rubble leftover of cities from the bombings and the chaos of children without their families. This series revealed the true horrors and sacrifices that are the result of such war crimes.

[@chelsy9249]

same. makes me upset bc that is currently the reality for people and we can’t do anything about it

[@hermionegranger1096]

@@chelsy9249 Completely agree, even with the ceasefire comment in the film, I was like damnn, holy crap this is getting real real now. All we can do is watch the war crime unfold like the people who watched the hunger games and not being able to do anything about it, or have to undergo the consequences of losing your livelihood for speaking out like Melissa Berrara and Susan Surandon have, horrifying stuff.

[@nilleyi2231]

​@@hermionegranger1096well speaking about it and boycotting companies that support genocide is a great way to start

[@senpaisear-edge]

It’s also very close to not just the ceasefire but the fact that many children in palestine have lived their lives in fear of dying at any given moment. Also there’s the issue with rebellion and trying to reason with a bad government and how the privileged tend to not understand anything or choose to be blind about the occupation as well. I’ve seen this for many years and I’m glad people are understanding now but god I personally know people who have said good about Israel while living these books, not even realizing that it’s insanely close to what Israel is like

[@fayc_fayc2115]

YESSS! everyone say thank you mother ash for feeding us during exam season!!!

[@Jayden.A.M]

THANK YOU MOTHER

[@kateschneider8789]

it's the way that i'm literally watching this while taking a break from writing a final paper

[@fayc_fayc2115]

@@kateschneider8789 my papers due in 4 days and i haven't even begun to think about it yet

[@aleta_lundell]

I just got done with my last final and this is how I'm dumping my brain😂

[@DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose]

I just turned in my Business Communications final yesterday and I take this as my reward. 😊🏆

[@neemagatumbu7850]

You adding the ally flag to the edit is the most unhinged behaviour in this entire video. I love it

[@BrightStick14]

I always love how we see Katniss say “if we burn you burn with us” and then, like Mockingjays, the other rebels repeat that sentiment while bombing the peacekeepers. Then Katniss sings The Hanging Tree and the rebels also sing it when they blow up the dam! I love Suzanne Collins!

[@kobrownkid1356]

I wish Tigress was more apparent in these movies. I'm very interested about her character arc, how she went from Songbirds to Mockingjay pt.2 i can picture it, but I'd have loved to WATCH it.

[@JoshTill]

rip to the gale fandom (all 6 of you) through the Mockingjay movies

[@Everlark_girlie]

Lmao, unfortunately my bother is one of those six people😭

[@jessicaDd9692]

I was team gale at the time and it really was just bc I like toxic men and Liam hemsworth is hot😂 watching as an adult I’m like WTF he sucks

[@jessondesign]

Okay but I LOVE how they added Snow's voice at the end of tbosas saying "it's the things we love most that destroy us" like it was SUCH a good detail bro

[@AuthorZaraHoffman]

Definitely remember thinking "you're playing that a little too well," for certain actors.

[@kiachaotic6554]

Imagine snows face when he heard Katniss singing the hanging tree. I bet he had flashbacks 😂 like “damn she keeps coming back” I like how Haymitch didn’t necessarily say yes to the new games. He just says “I’m with the mockingjay.” He knew Katniss was up to something and Katniss looked at him with that “you know what’s about to go down” look. A lot of ppl don’t understand why she agreed to the hunger games but if you watch the scene again, Snow reminds her of their agreement to never lie. And if you watch the new movie, we see that Snow doesn’t like liars because he believes a person who lies is a person who is afraid. Something along those lines. Katniss needed Coin to believe that this was still about Prim to throw her off her game.

[@kadyharris8415]

Somebody said that the games were designed to test each district’s ability to rebel against the capital. The ones that had a higher rate of survival, like districts one and two were treated better so that they didn’t have incentive to rebel. Also that a list of the most effective tricks and traps that were used in the games like the mutts or the guns or fire, were implemented in the capitals defense systems.

[@cupcakes6938]

If you like the new movie, HIGHLY recommend the book. I'm usually not a "book is better than the movie" girlie, but the book had so much more details of snows inner mind PLUS more context to the hanging tree song that the movie simply didn't have enough time to cover in the film. Highly recommend reading it!!

[@rustyroast24]

You comparing the Capitol and the Districts to Israel and Palestine blew my mind. It fits so horrifyingly well.

[@codyseelye8352]

Yeah

[@cherrycola1119]

Nope

[@rii4353]

I know! It's Crazy

[@allyboba1359]

30:30 when snow said "the arena has moved underground" and u get flashbacks to him watching lucy gray go in the underground tunnels in the 10th hunger games like suzanne collins' mind

[@Shirin1903]

No wayyy I just binged your reactions to the first two movies yesterday and mockinjay is out today? 😭❤

[@alexandraod142]

SAME! 👏🏼🥳

[@spicyboi_ben9104]

NO LITERALLY SAME

[@violet_eyez]

LMAO SAME

[@Veilwing]

SAME THO

[@martymcflown3707]

So Snow being named Coriolanus has to be a reference to the Shakespeare play of the same name, or I'll eat my hat. Because the plotline of the play has some really interesting ties to Snow. Definitely recommend the movie adaptation that came out in 2011. Ralph Fiennes plays the titular character and he's crazy good. Sorry, random tangent but thought it might be interesting to some!

[@katiew.9973]

Im learning about this NOW. Miss Collins is a menace for the work she put into this story...

[@arroyalpain]

Katniss knew they weren’t gonna have the symbolic hunger games, her agreeing was just to ensure she got to take a shot at Coin, and I think Haymitch knew that which is why he looked at her. It’s like Haymitch and Katniss didn’t need to plan it out, bc he knew in her heart she’d do the right thing.

[@marisamckay9821]

should’ve used josh’s “legalize it” pic when calling him an ally bc he’s a real one ✊🏻

[@elysabelaudet]

Alternate title : Ash being Mother and a relatable queen for 45 minutes

[@applebuttajeanz1920]

Collins gets the psychological effects of war so well it hurts. I didnt know this until a couple years back when my daughter brought a picture book home called Year of the Jungle. It's by SC! It's autobiographical of her 6th year when her dad was drafted to the war. Its heartbreaking to see how that one year for her, and im sure for plenty of her friends stuck with her so completely. She may not have been put in a death pit but she knows how it feels to suffer for the choices of adults

[@nmoney6655]

My absolute favorite quote from the books is “There are still moments where I wake up screaming from nightmares of lost children and mutts and he still clutches a chair in the dining room but his arms are there and eventually his lips and after when he asks you love me real or not real I answer real” it shows that even though PTSD doesn’t just go away you can heal from it and live a normal life

[@katyanderson1413]

i LOVED the scene in the woods with them climbing the trees and the peacekeepers shooting at them, specifically after watching the ballad of songbirds and snakes. spoilers ahead. i love how it parallels. snow hunting lucy gray in the woods and shooting up at the mockingjays at random, and then the peacekeepers doing the same to the rebels. each repeating something that pisses off snow (for tbosas, it's lucy gray's singing, and for the mockingjay movies it's "if we burn you burn with us.)

[@nupzgotcaffeine09]

like i really stand with Ashley on that one, like your district got blew up by the man you're going up against, and others are also facing that but Gale over there is like, "Okay, so can i pull up tho?" LIKE NO MY DUDE!

[@jumisjam]

The similarities with the current situation and THG is insane... even more insane that ppl dont even care 😭

[@dani01949]

is it? I mean, that's one of the points of THG. We just need a real-life Coriolanus to set-up a betting system.

[@joeyxyz9860]

Seeing the hospital blow up just like the real life ones being destroyed in Gaza is terrifying but should be used as a lesson that movies are just reflections of reality and to be like the mockingjay you need to stand for human rights

[@Maxisamo1]

I totally understand Ash's reflexive enjoyment whenever Snow (metaphorically) gags people You love to hate him but oooooooo you can see how this guy was in charge of stuff for so long

[@Koneko_wolf]

The fact that Jennifer hadn’t seen josh yet when they filmed her seeing the interview. She was genuinely missing him and seeing him like that broke her in that moment 😭😭😭

[@joncarpenter-smith9801]

I never realised before but 13 had access to television they could see anything that was broadcast which means they sat underground doing nothing while watching the hunger games for all those years

[@BerzekGamer]

I whistled the tune and IMMEDIATELY AFTER Whistle started playing. LIKE CLOCKWORK

[@chelsealynne07]

13:22 HELP its giving “my diamond earring fell off in the ocean and it’s gone!” “kim there’s people that are dying” LIKE WOMP WOMP

[@biblelovergirl]

jennifer deserved atleast an oscar nomination for catching fire or this one imo

[@theriveroftruth]

FIRST of all, i just wanna thank you for voicing all the similarities between panem’s civil war and the current situation of the world!!! also not the whistle edit 😂🙈

[@ashtonketchum13]

EVERYONE SAY THANK YOU TO OUR MOTHER she knows just what we want 🥺

[@Slimerree-]

gale is such a sad boy and i haven’t read the books this is just a thought but imagine if when they went to rescue peeta it was a deep ploy that if he died on that mission it was enough for him to know that katniss would always remember him when she looked at peeta for going to save him and dying in the process. That man is the definition of toxic

[@HannahJones-yx1vu]

I never thought about it like that but I wouldn't put it past Gale great take

[@Riquegato99]

Every time she said "What do you mean?" I remembered the Jennifer Lawrence meme with the hot wings hahahahahahaha

[@TyDaisuke]

Someone may have already said this but the Tree Katniss is sitting under at the end of part 2 is the SAME tree that Lucy Gray sat under and sang/played The Hanging Tree in Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes.

[@Teebee300]

Man, I re-watched all the Hunger Games and they gutted me again. They are so well-made!!! I remember watching them the first time and losing my shit over Finnic and Prim. I have young siblings and I couldn’t imagine losing them. When I lost my sister two years ago reliving that scene with Katniss and the cat. Is a real testament to Jennifer lawerences acting. I cannot wait to see the new hunger games!

[@futuremovieactor]

Yes. I definitely want you to do Ballad of Songbirds & Snakes when it comes out. Yes please. * Also, of course Plutarch knew! He was counting on it! Haha. * I love how even though he became a psychopath and a far cry from who he was when he was much younger, Coriolanus Snow was willing to not only accept defeat once it was imminent, but then also straight-up tell or imply to Katniss: "If you don't want more of the same, don't support Coin". She didn't and when she killed Coin instead, he loved every second of it. As twisted as he became and as twisted as it is, he got to go out knowing Panem was not in the hands of someone who'd be just be bad as he was.

[@bdink2605]

His name not being Cornelius is the main reason I didn’t read the prequel books because who the hell is Kernelanus? I made his name Cornelius the whole time 😂

[@tannerorrock1916]

I just noticed a Parallel from the first film in the first scene Katniss is comforting Prim Because she had a nightmare and the last scene of the last movie she is comforting her child after they had a nightmare

[@ambiguoussarcasm]

During my rewatch of the movies a couple of weeks ago, i did cry when the bombs dropped on the hospital ngl. Too real.

[@keleighrees7422]

it’s crazy how the book is all about how love stories sell more then anything and it’s how the movies were marketed and it’s what the cast was asked at the red carpet. suzanne is a mastermind

[@humanartifact010]

cannot believe we got josh hutchersoned by ash

[@jcamman99]

I will say this though, paper to screen, Woody Harrelson was perfect casting When he's introduced in the mockingjay " now that's how's a revolution dies" I could hear the words coming out of woody Harrelson.. and when I saw that part in the movie, it was exactly how i pictured it

[@elysabelaudet]

"I thought we agreed to never lie to each other" wasnt that something he and Lucy Gray said to each ither at some point ? Like, their relationship ended because he (Snow) lied to her, so eitger i'm crazy, or thats another parallel with Katniss/Lucy Gray

[@lightlessmoons]

i can rewatch this series a hundred times and STILL get emotional. masterpiece. the similarities between the movies and the genocide in Gaza is horror inducing.

[@Glamdotzan]

Yea it’s so eerie how this aged…

[@princesssmileyface91]

The whole point of Katniss volunteering for the games was to keep her sister safe, Gale promised to keep them safe, and he completely messed up siding with Coin, sad to know Katniss children will never get to meet their Auntie Prim 😢

[@KioshiWarrior]

“Ooooo I’m Gaaaale, ouchiiiiie” LMFAOOOOO ASHLEY 😭✨

[@HidingInPlainS1ght]

There is no way I’m sitting in my kitchen, just came home from school, and I just got Josh Hutcherson’d by Ashley..

[@ferni0307]

ash the whole movie: OH THIS IS THAT SCENE, OOOOH THIS IS THAT PART i love her sm because mother knows the whole movie is iconic

[@RedLicorice05]

When you said “just imagine this happened to your home” the chills ran down my spine, because it actually happening to my home as we speak, thanks to Russia