The Monarchy Is DOOMED

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[@DJay-wd2sm]

Owen’s gone all private Frazer.

[@FreeFragUK]

When referencing polls and similar supporting evidence, please can you provide links to these items. Other than that, excellent work.

[@happinesstan]

It will be given a new lease of life wihen Kin Harry returns to take his "rightful" place on the throne. We're due a Shakespearean Royal drama.

[@MrTooEarnestOnline]

You noble diggers all stand up now stand up now

[@adarkimpurity]

Shoddy, small-scale online polls are not reflective of reality- when will you guys understand that?

[@nicholassiminson2699]

100 Percent ! Get rid of the Monarchy. I’m 79.

[@carriestjames279]

I’m 80, live in Spain, didn’t watch it, went swimming.

[@cdean2789]

Was it raining?

[@ancikamayzaputriy.1409]

As you should. You go gurlll

[@boomerthomas4309]

Spain is a constitutional monarchy.

[@learningtofly3116]

I’m a pensioner and I think the Monarchy’s irrelevant and useless

[@corvus1238]

I'm another boomer who agrees with you. Long past time the monarchy was abolished.

[@davidpearn2484]

Same thought 100%

[@_Uh_Oh_]

I'm 35 and completely anti-monarchy - disgusting feudal tradition that has absolutely NO place in 2023. Queen Elizabeth II should have been the very last.

[@MrPatch25]

Oh dear

[@MrPatch25]

Long live the king 🎉

[@BenStevenson-c4z]

The UK 🇬🇧 should be a Republic like France 🇫🇷

[@petyrkowalski9887]

The monarchy are a ridiculous medieval anachronism at the best of times but in these times of horrendous cost of living, underpaid key workers, massive uptake of food banks this whole spectacle is grotesque.

[@danielwebb8402]

"Horrendous" = one year. Of negative real wages

[@soniaspinks6204]

It's obscene to flaunt this excess when literally round the corner many are in poverty.

[@martynblackburn9632]

But the monarchs are just symbolic and traditional, and Brits love their traditions.

[@SvalbardSleeperDistrict]

​@@danielwebb8402 ""Horrendous" = one year. Of negative real wages" Four decades of wages falling far behind the productivity rise from the working classes, all on the backdrop of rising inequality and corporate class raking in record-breaking profits, including during times of crises like the pandemic. Fixed that little technical mistake for you.

[@regista4]

@@danielwebb8402 clueless

[@marygriffiths6818]

My partner is 82, I am 78. The greed, hypocracy and arrogance of the royals sickens us.

[@richardmurphy4520]

Their legacy is a humiliating kick in the crotch to humanity, and leaves a sickening vulgar seed in ones psyche.

[@estherpaul7605]

It must be a heavy burden to be carrying for all this year's, sorry

[@McCRBen]

I was glad to be overseas in part of the former empire. In Australia we will be swearing an oath of allegiance to King Charles (or a statement of allegiance) in order to become a naturalised Australian citizen. I was in Ireland at the same time as President Biden. I think the coronation was briefly reported.

[@CzechShooter]

how are they exactly arrogant?

[@NukaColaKris]

But their not though...

[@ashben74]

"The Monarchy will fall"... I hope so!

[@alexandraaddams502]

I am one of the 23% of pensioners that are not interested in the Monarchy and i believe the future should be left to the younger people who will be living in this diabolical country overseen by a 'king' who has both feet firmly in the WEF

[@lestrem11]

We could always leave it to politicians….🤡🤡🤡

[@jamesregiste960]

​@@lestrem11 aaah yeah, do nothing, that sounds like the way forward?

[@lestrem11]

@@jamesregiste960 Well done James , you have got it in one.

[@lestrem11]

No, dummy, that is EXACTLY a what they aren’t you fool.

[@wendyturney8914]

Most of us do not appreciate what we have in this country, because for many different reasons few of us will be better off than we were a few years ago, but I live in a village and we have 3 Ukrainian families in our lane. There are some dreadful things happening all over the world at the moment and we should not take our future for granted. If you believe our country is diabolical, you do not have to stay.

[@davidmcnamara2730]

i am 68 years old and have detested this twisted corrupt institution all my life, and most of my peer group are of the same mind. Having said that, POWER TO THE YOUNG,UNS !!!!!!!!! RIGHT ON

[@nikirk101]

well perhaps you could look forward to tony blair being president instead

[@richardmurphy4520]

@@nikirk101 Even war criminal Blair would do a better job than the spineless adulterous global land pariah crettin head of state we have now.

[@carlpierce2486]

Whoever we choose would be the popular choice. Why do you distrust the british people so much.

[@richardmurphy4520]

@@carlpierce2486 They talk about " choice " as if it's something they invented, but the only choice they know is the one that makes the dough, with the 28 clauses & market forces. There's no " choice."

[@ceciliajohnson7363]

We wouldn't have a politician as head of state. A politician has their own agenda so none would be allowed to apply. We would vote for someone taken from the best of the people, like a wonderful scientist finding cures for terrible deseases, or an Army General. Or a great humanitarian or someone like another David Attenborough who cares about the world, but who cares about our country most of all. Why people haven't the intelligence to see beyond a politician as H of S., I haven't the slightest idea. @@nikirk101

[@daisyl2629]

I’m a boomer. I’ve only got more resentful of the Monarchy and their dysfunctional family nonsense over the years. There will always be Royalist sheep in every generation but Charles does not have the temperament, nor commands the respect that his Mother did. Nobody will consider Camilla a “Queen” in the same way they would have Diana. Having a coronation in the current economic crisis is so totally tone deaf. We cannot afford to pay the nurses but we can throw millions for a party for the richest man in the country

[@alber4842]

Disgusting 🤮 🤢they’ve have no empathy for the ordinary people.

[@markhill3803]

Not paying the nurses and public sector a decent wage is a political choice of the Tory government. There was no need for austerity in 2010 it was a political choice. The government collected excess tax revenue over and above their forecast so they can afford it.

[@joscott6476]

👏👏👏👏

[@richardhussey-cq2se]

No comparison! The coronation costs a fraction of how much giving the 1000s of nurses an above inflation pay rise would cost!

[@joanstorer6370]

If Charles had been a man with a conscience he would have paid for his own Coronation when he knew that his subjects were struggling however he quickly changed his idea to have a small Coronation for a larger one. He should not have changed the ceremony because as King of Britain he is defender of THE FAITH as head of the Christian Church & not FAITHS as he wanted.

[@newsjunkie7135]

As someone who grew up in a republic, I find it super weird when people say "the sovereign" and mean the king or queen. The sovereign is the people!

[@lyndoncmp5751]

If you're in America I'll say I find it super weird you still allow religion to dictate certain laws, such as banning abortion in some states.

[@induchopra3014]

How can you be subjects and not citizens and call yourself democratic? Democracy in essence means,people own the country,not one person.

[@LeonLShaw]

Democracy is not about the people having a say in making decisions, it is about the people deciding who it is that makes the decsions.

[@lyndoncmp5751]

@@induchopra3014 It clearly says I'm a British "citizen" on my passport. It doesn't say "subject".

[@British_monarchist]

It should never be the people

[@tvlicencebible1380]

An outdated, feudal, undemocratic system that needs to end asap. I am 60 and nobody's "subject", except maybe in their imagination. Even a five year old would instinctively know that it's wrong to have a head of state selected purely by birth. A hugely outdated and frankly ridiculous system in the modern era. The monarchy is a core element of our history as a nation but that's where it belongs, in the history books. It's my belief that the monarchy will find it impossible to survive in the coming years; the conditions that supported its existence are inexorably crumbling. The next generation will, quite rightly, demand far better and push very hard for a republic. If the establishment had any sense whatsoever, it would read the nation carefully and prepare for an orderly and peaceful transition.

[@hughmckendrick3018]

In my sixties. Nobody I know, ralatives (exceptions being my wife and mother in law, they liked the "Crown"), work colleagues and other friends, have any interest in the Royal family. They all think the money being spent on today's proceedings, a disgrace.

[@jjefferyworboys8138]

But think of huge pay back to the UK economy from tourism, hospitality and all associated businesses for years to come. Hundreds of thousands of jobs either directly or indirectly benefit from the Monarchy and it's history. Tourist don't come here for the weather !.

[@hughmckendrick3018]

@@jjefferyworboys8138 Saw an item on television years ago. The tv interviewer in the street was asking tourists how much of a factor on their holiday in the UK, was the current Royal family. Little or none was the answer of most. The general outlook was that castles and palaces would be there to see anyway.

[@allegory6393]

@@jjefferyworboys8138 So much titanic nonsense (and regurgitation of sewer-tabloid lies) in such a little space!

[@whitneyanders5945]

No one is going to the UK soley because of the monarchy. Yeah, you go to the Tower of London and stand out the front of Buckingham Palace but there are so many other reasons tourists go to the UK. At least in other countries like France and Ireland you can actually enter the palaces and castles. You need to do some research into the truth behind the monarchy and the tourism industry.

[@summerbright2769]

@@whitneyanders5945they used to visit when princess Dianna was alive.unfortunately Charles and Camilla have nothing positive to offer for that matter. abolish the monarchy.

[@WarrenPeaceOG]

The monarchy is an anchor for the British class system: no way to get rid of the latter without getting rid of the former

[@redemptivepete]

The class system in the US is based on the dollar! The proof? Couldn't be less classy than Trump but allegedly he has money@

[@BOOOOOOOONE]

​@@ppo2424What makes you think socialists want to copy the economic model of the USA?

[@nav8908]

well said

[@digger8180]

On the point, 👍

[@rso823]

Do you think when the monarchy is gone we will stop having billionaires?

[@AndreUtrecht]

It’s not just the Monarchy but how British society is organised. It’s a class society, a caste society. The undemocratic House of Lords. Nobility vs ordinary people. And there’s in fact a two party system: choose between Labour or the Tory party, in stead of a parliament where multiple parties are represented. The Monarchy is a symbol of this, but just the tip of the iceberg.

[@rrickarr]

Andre: For some reason, millions of Brits love it this way!

[@ArtyFactual_Intelligence]

@@rrickarr Russians like Putin for the same reason. Delusions of power and influence.

[@skyblazeeterno]

@@rrickarr and millions don't like it

[@rhonda5056]

@@rrickarr Can you share reasons why millions "love it this way"?

[@ladymacbethofmtensk896]

It does not appear that a second Commonwealth will be anything but worse. After all, the monarchy has survived because of Cromwell's attempt to abolish it. But unlike France in 1871, there was a clear successor to the throne.

[@alipanroosendaal9503]

Why was Lizzie an asset? She never payed tax until forced to, she never intervened on behalf of the people, but did pay off one of Andy's victims.

[@MrAEMiller]

She kept her mouth shut and was only really interested in race horses and corgis

[@alipanroosendaal9503]

@@MrAEMiller That is not being an asset, that is survival mode.

[@mariamatusiewicz4280]

She is lying in darkness. She will never see the light again.

[@patricktracey7424]

lizzie was perfect for the monarchy she did nothing that threatened their continued existence unlike the current clown.

[@alipanroosendaal9503]

@@patricktracey7424 That is the crux; Liz and her father never expected to rule. It fell into their laps after the abdication. So, Liz was less entitled. Chas, on the other hand, was born long after that and has been entitled since birth. So, he meddled, he had an open secret mistress, he avoids paying tax and is generally self-indulgent. Liz was (as far as we know) boringly whiter that white. That is how the monarchy survived the last 50 years. Chas cannot be discreet, dour and diligent. He is a diva and the public can smell that, and they don't like it. The longer he lives, the more chance there is of abolition. Were he to die soon Eton boy Willy (man of the people because I pretend to understand football) could revive it.

[@coolhandk77]

An unelected ruling family is an outdated concept and this family is a national embarrassment.

[@sharpvidtube]

I find it funny that the campers don't want Harry at the coronation, because he spoke about the family, but Diana, who did the same thing, is worshiped. Then there's Andrew😂

[@DJay-wd2sm]

They don’t rule. Want to try again?

[@Korschtal]

In Germany we're all hoping you don't remember where they came from.

[@coolhandk77]

@@Korschtal privileged arrogance has no nationality

[@malcolmthompson597]

As a New Zealander, I share your embarrassment at having these people as my head of state!

[@martynleek3054]

Funny how's there is no money to pay the nurses but we can afford this

[@caitlin1142]

Exactly!! 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@bollockchop501]

Also 30 million paid to train company’s for every day of striking,that is per company,that would pay for nurses wages,they are the most hardworking people.

[@MahinderSG1952]

And in Republics like the USA, there are facing the same or even worst.

[@richardmurphy4520]

@@MahinderSG1952 Piffle, waffle, and dirty royalist tory & zio Trump twaddle.

[@yourmother2739]

@@MahinderSG1952 True so elites must be ended.

[@racechick2033]

I live in a village that is made up of people from all walks of life. We have an annual carnival which is attended by thousands. Not one single flag or piece of bunting to be seen anywhere. Nada. Only one person I know is excited and she's Welsh. 😂 The end is nigh. Things need to change. I don't have a problem with Royals standing for the position, so long as their hoards are taken by the government and used for philanthropic reasons, NHS, schools, taking back ownership of our power, water and railways etc. We should have say, and whomever is 'head' is subject to the same rules and laws as every other person.

[@rupertmiller4718]

where is this paradise? I live in a smallish harbourside village in the south and OK the bunting isn't excessive but its there.

[@eugenieponleve667]

@Uregetting Nowt And what ? Didn't England chop off the head of a king before any other country,to no avail ?

[@danieleatwell7757]

There is some bunting where I live but not all that much.

[@Kian2002]

What is so hilarious about being Welsh or for that matter being excited about the recent iteration of a British tradition stretching back over a THOUSAND years; would you be happier if our Royal Family claimed descent from Caradoc or Caractacus as the English call him?

[@racechick2033]

@@Kian2002 Nothing hilarious, just aware that not all the Welsh like the monarchy. There was a Coronation celebration at the local community hub but again, rather understated with quite low turnout. There seems to be much less support of the coronation than their was for QE2's funeral. Not laughing at anyone, just what I've seen. Correction also... three businesses had a little bunting up by lunchtime.

[@amandawright3568]

For what its worth, I am 58 and I have purposefully avoided every royal birth, death and marriage coverage since I was a teenager and I am proud of it!!! And yes, I even avoided old charlies wedding to di.

[@хорошийчеловек-л6я]

you missed out on a lot

[@barrydaws4602]

Amanda, I have done exactly the same , and haven't missed a thing starting with the 1953 coronation

[@hastekulvaati9681]

The late Queens funeral was spectacular (apart from Liz Truss’s oration that sounded like the deputy head girl doing a last minute reading at a school assembly). You should have watched it.

[@cdean2789]

Snap

[@amandawright3568]

​@@hastekulvaati9681 I reallly shouldn't have watched it, and i didn't watch it ... Personal choice. You chose to watch it as that was your personal choice to do so; i am not telling you you should not have watched it ...

[@allegedly_pav5487]

Biggest freeloaders around… their “duties” are going to parties and travels

[@tomhollandroberts1737]

and breeding non-stop.

[@michealpallett5708]

You never spoke

[@taroman7100]

Yah, sorry but I didnt fawn over the Queen. She could take off to eighty thousand acres to decompress?

[@susanlindsay1071]

I am 70 this year. Not my king.

[@jhellnowh]

I’m in my fifties and have never liked the monarchy. The sooner it falls, the better. Maybe then, we can move to a true meritocracy, so everyone has the same opportunities in life.

[@martynblackburn9632]

How will the fall of a traditional and purely symbolic monarchy result in the implimentation of a "true meritocracy"? Makes little sense to me that. If the monacrhy did fall, hardly anything would change in society. It wouldn't impact anyone's life apart from the nostalgics and the religiously inclined who believe that monarchs are a check against the forces of evil or something like that.

[@roystonellis6909]

@@terencedenman702 we ar poorer now under the capitalist than we’ve ever been. Explain please?

[@Mark28644]

@@terencedenman702 We're dirt poor under capitalism. Just look around you!! Food banks, poverty, low wages & crippling energy & living costs!!

[@home_in_a_cold_world]

​@Tel do you actually know what socialism is? explain what is so off-putting?

[@jjefferyworboys8138]

Inequality has always existed and always will in every society. Life isn't fair but its the responsibility of every individual to be the very best they can be.

[@AlanBarclay-s4z]

I am 76 and I went to a Republic meeting in Edinburgh on the day of the coronation.

[@gregrot]

I do love to buck a trend, at 68 I am still a socialist and a Republican.✊✊

[@johnnyroadcrew3841]

Comrade .. .. ..

[@47redtop]

Yay oldies rebel yell (kinda) ❤️me too

[@soniaspinks6204]

65 and republican and left wing.

[@patcampton7163]

​@@OneTrueScotsman Me too.

[@cobbler40]

Me too

[@L-mo]

I detest this charade and having Charles, and especially Camilla, shoved down our throats.

[@natsdaley9615]

It's alot right you literally can't escape it

[@thomasvanantwerp728]

Say it, Sir!

[@hideshiseyes2804]

A few people who know me have said this week “you may be against the monarchy but I bet you’re not gonna complain about getting an extra bank holiday are ya!” And I say “no, but in my ideal world we’d have an extra bank holiday every year to celebrate the day we said goodbye to that silly family and became a republic.”

[@LHRTW]

Yes US India FRANCE Mexico all have a day celebrating the Republic

[@ArtyFactual_Intelligence]

@@middleman9183 it's coming.

[@smellslikethinice1107]

I was told not to work and didn't get paid, neither did my co workers. So please stop with your silly lies.

[@Joe-zv3iu]

If you work for 0 contract you don’t get paid at all , so no the bank holiday wouldn’t mean anything to me either

[@kate_cooper]

Not everyone even gets bank holidays off. I only had the day off because it happened to be my scheduled day off anyway, many of my colleagues were working.

[@lynda7244]

I remember the Queen's jubilee in the 70's, flags every where and street parties. Hardly any houses are bearing flags and I have not seen any street parties. It's just a dull day to most people.

[@lemsip207]

There was more street parties for VE Day three years ago but that was because we were still in lockdown and there were no competing events. People hadn't socialised with each other for weeks. People mourned the death of the Queen last year but many mourned the death of Princess Diana in 1997.

[@juguez1]

Well, the Queen's Jubilee in the 70s occurred under a totally different Zeitgeist as that one of now PLUS the UK had just entered the EEC together with the RoI and Denmark. Yet the "Winter of discontent" was to come... The rest is history.

[@richardmurphy4520]

@@lemsip207 Diana despite her naivety and stupidity was a human being, greedy Betty on the other hand was not.

[@yourmother2739]

@@lemsip207 Diana was the best royal and the other royals hated her.

[@lemsip207]

@@yourmother2739 Exactly. I had no interest in the royal family until she came onto the scene and then I was fascinated.

[@ImOk...]

I would love to see you cover the anti-monarchy arrests at the coronation

[@jessicakyle6855]

I second this.

[@NarutoUzumaki-jw4kw]

That was great. Treason should be punished!

[@carlpierce2486]

Narato so should stupidity.

[@harrietharlow9929]

@@NarutoUzumaki-jw4kw Since when is speaking your mind treason?

[@alanjames4991]

Treason This Sham (Monarchy) Is Being Forced On People!..

[@jflsdknf]

As an American I can tell you we think of your monarchy as the most bizarre and outdated circus. Why it hasn't been abolished yet is incomprehensible. It's kind of embarrassing

[@wendyturney8914]

When I was moaning about all the electioneering on TV a foreign visitor told me that we were lucky because we didn't live in America and have to choose between Trump and Biden. Your last election didn't go so smoothly or respectfully as ours just has. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

[@AJCavalier]

You know what else is pretty embarrassing? Acting all morally superior when it comes to ‘liberty’ and ‘democracy’, when you’re all ruled by a bunch of billionaires and oligarchs.

[@starknight103]

​@@AJCavalierthe UK is an oligarchy just like the US, Russia and China.

[@taroman7100]

They are a big out of touch dated relic in the middle of London.

[@AJCavalier]

@@taroman7100 I’d whole heartedly agree 👍👍. Politicians are about as in touch with reality as you can get; truly men of the people. Not to mention 10 times more trust worthy and honest than those reptilian royals 👍👍.

[@gordonbitting1659]

I am 89 years old and also one of the few pensioners not in favour of the Monarchy.

[@alfarizz2]

you still alive?

[@Golfr2020]

Kings and Queens are for story books. It has no place in modern society.

[@AlbertTheGamer-gk7sn]

Or chessboards, that's why chess turned from nobility-only game to a game anyone with an access to the Internet can play.

[@mintywebb]

We need to complain about their lack of impartiality.

[@sharpvidtube]

They won't care. Only way to improve things is to vote in an anti monarchy government, but I can't see that happening soon.

[@artistsanomalous7369]

"Lack of impartiality". Or as some people call it, "partiality".

[@Yossarian_Lives73]

There very partial, to tax free inheritance and vast estates stolen from the country….

[@mintywebb]

@@artistsanomalous7369 err very few. I take it English is a second language for you.

[@Knappa22]

I was pleasantly surprised driving around my village here yesterday. 2878 inhabitants according to last census and I saw only two houses with bunting, and even they were half-hearted, one string affairs. Ok I know this is Wales, and a strong Plaid area at that, but it did surprise me. Barely *anyone* marking the Coronation.

[@doreenhollywood7459]

In Glasgow, there was a march of over 30,000 people for INDEPENDENCE instead of watching coronation, wasting millions of tax payers money on someone who was already king

[@kaspaking]

I totally agree with you here Owen. No one cares about the government or the monarchy. We're working hard, we're tired and we're struggling to make ends meet. While they sit in gilded gowns. When the lefts values align with the right we know its time for change. Just to clarify I've not been a bit fan of your past left wing/ progressive views sir, but here I cannot deny you are spot on.

[@joshuadaley8909]

We did it lads! We reached common ground!🥳

[@joeallen9104]

Finally something we can agree on.

[@TheColossalBlanket]

I don't think his left wing views are in the past.

[@john.premose]

I would say the opposite. If the right wing starts to agree with you then you know that what you're saying is just feeding the capitalist agenda. Getting rid of the monarchy will just be a smokescreen to make people feel like they're doing something when in reality it is meaningless. Who cares about the monarchy, it's capitalism that rules this world and its not going to be affected whether the monarchy is there or not. As your clueless comment shows.

[@john.premose]

​@@joshuadaley8909 can't believe 125 people upvoted this drivel comment. This person comes on here with insults to the left and gets applauded. Have some self respect.

[@Phillipdumont]

100% agree with you on this. thank you.

[@brandoncameron2686]

France actually completely got rid of its monarchy, which is impressive. They didn’t even keep it around for like a ceremonial tradition.

[@Jay_Johnson]

Well they are on their fifth attempt. We’ve only tried once.

[@andreafisher7799]

And France has kept their leaders to account far better

[@EnglishroG]

@@andreafisher7799 You obviously don't know a thing about Francoise Mitterand.

[@johnmorsley]

And the way they did it was the best… off with their heads!

[@graceomalley4]

Plus they have loads of tourism without any living monarchs.

[@johnrider5701]

I'm sixty years old and i only hope that i live long enough to see the end of the British monarchy..

[@julianterris]

*20% of Brittons live below the poverty line. The king pays no tax on his 42 billion-dollar estate.*

[@Dee-mj3pu]

Keep asking questions. Demand transparency & freedom of information!

[@pascaledowling6309]

I watched the news on the BBC and channel 4 last night and you would have thought they were describing different events.

[@rohiniguiland4873]

I feel as thought if the Tories had not screwed up the country so badly financially then there might be a larger of amount of support simply because of the identity of UK is tied to monarchy. But when people are starving it is hard to justify allowing a billionaire family to waste tax payer funds on what is essentially a graduation party.

[@richardmurphy4520]

Correction :- MULTI billionaire family of UK and global tax evading gangsters.

[@lyndoncmp5751]

Starving? In Britain? The obesity level is off the scale. I never see McDonald's and KFC empty.

[@richardmurphy4520]

@@lyndoncmp5751 Never see an empty Mosque or Synagogue in my hood either. Churches on the other hand are being converted into one bedroom flats by both of these " alleged " minority groups, at prices that would bring tears to Lord Jacob Rothshilds globalist & royalist eyes.

[@lyndoncmp5751]

@Melissa Fraser Yes, people just don't know how to get their priorities and spend money correctly.

[@alexandraaddams502]

I am sick of hearing people tell me the royals bring in a lot of money.....where? In London where the hotels and shops might gain, but here in Lancaster where the royals have land, we are not able to walk on some of it due to blasting of birds by rich people and farms for the monarchy. I have never gained from people coming to England due to the royals. People just spout the same rubbish constantly.

[@Real_Infinity95]

It's more like the royals bring in money for themselves.

[@RichardAmuir-f2l]

THANK YOU OWEN. Here in Canada, I also look forward to us becoming a republic.

[@legalfictionnaturalfact3969]

As a Daughter of the American Revolution, I'm fine with this. ;)

[@tomwaller6893]

The Monarchy has already fallen as Scotland marched today to mark the start of the rebirth of Scotland as a nation again. Then we will join the EU as the New Republic of Scotland. The UK will be dissolved by the founding member, Scotland, as is our right under the declaration of Arbroath. Those laws pre-date the annexation of Scotland by England in 1707 and are still Scottish law. The political union between England and Scotland is over. That tends to happen when England forced Brexit on Scotland against the wishes of the Scottish vote.

[@angussoutter7824]

I wouldn’t say that was the sole reason it’s just been a constant drip of dissatisfaction on how poorly the nation as a whole has been run

[@JohnnieLawson-mw6ls]

The monarchy hasn't fallen in Scotland just because there was a march today.

[@eaglerider-1]

The monarchy has been without enthusiasm in Scotland for decades. I grew up in rural Scotland in the 1950's/60's listening to songs like Scottish Breakaway and The Wee Magic Stane being sung around me. And when TV finally arrived it got pointedly switched off promptly, before the National Anthem came on at the end of broadcasting.

[@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935]

Breaking the link with Northern Ireland will be the greatest liberation, flush sectarianism down the sewer.

[@happinesstan]

See. The Scots know how to make an agreement that they can get out of.

[@TheWorldsEnd66]

That “Allegiance” illustrates desperation to maintain the status quo of the establishment for a further generation. The Monarchy lasted because of the late Queen. The loyalty to her descendants is not there. The Gravediggers went to work the day Charles was made King.

[@darren2722]

I am what is classed as a right-winger these days, and I want the Monarchy abolished, and the sooner the better.

[@Praying_Light_Force]

So You're A Republican.

[@matth7448]

You cannot get rid of the class system without getting rid of the monarchy

[@Real_Infinity95]

I agree that the British Monarchy should dissolve. We're living in a day and age where we should vote to put people in power with term limits. This is the 21st century. Not the 18th century.

[@Fordnan]

We certainly shouldn't have positions of public office handed out on a hereditary basis. Certainly not those with significant constitutional powers and privileges, combined with powers of absolute secrecy and zero accountability. There's a reason the establishment refuses a public debate on the monarchy, and if people knew the full consequences of the monarchy, not just the facile 'costs' and 'tourism' arguments, support for it would be zero.

[@Dee-mj3pu]

Head of State should be elected.

[@martinconnors6200]

I'm done with the Monarchy and Royal Family. When her late Majesty passed away; My attention turned away from the United Kingdom and towards a Republic.

[@thedanishsocialmonarchist7286]

There were wuold be no unted repubilic

[@Barralet58]

United Republic of Great Britain 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿👍

[@benjisplat2]

"Tradition is often just bad things that [happen to] have been around for a long time" - Owen Jones Yup!

[@martynblackburn9632]

Tradiition is structure, and people would rather have "bad" structure than no structure at all.

[@myuncle2]

@@martynblackburn9632 We are civilized enough to vote for our politicians now, and without rigged elections. In the past they needed a monarch because they were not civilized enough. And to avoid rigged elections, the monarchy WAS the only solution. But our elections have been fair for decades: we vote, we do mistakes, and we learn from our mistakes, that's the beauty of democracy, you can improve it gradually, bit by bit.

[@songsmith31a]

So, tell me of anything that centuries of history has invented that works as well in terms of stability, let alone helping to create more income that it costs.

[@allegory6393]

@@martynblackburn9632 And imagine what happens when that very structure which is supposed to protect one from the chaos of 'absence of structure' is the one that feeds utter cynicism and political nihilism. There will be a point when 'no structure 'would appear as the more 'rational' option. Although, it should be said, it is this structure that defines any alternative as 'chaos' (for obvious reasons). But there is another point that needs to be made with regard to tradition. We also have a robust and venerable anti-monarchist tradition (Milton, Blake) but that has been suppressed by a reactionary 'heritage' industry in cahoots with the financial establishment. The heritage industry's aim is to reduce our rich, complex and full of conflicts tradition to its most trite and kitsch version (serving the current socio-economic hierarchies). This grotesquery has usurped the very space of 'tradition', and tradition (the real thing) has been its first victim.

[@benfisher1376]

Including religions?

[@Rosy-xj8dx]

Well said. Thanking you. 🙏❤️

[@robertpetre9378]

Chester zoo,Legoland and the Lake District,If you consider some peoples love of Beatrice Potter is probably more popular than Windsor Castle when it comes to tourism so I can imagine even if we did abolish the royal family. We would still have lots of tourism.

[@petyrkowalski9887]

Absolutely…we dont need an entitled family to drive tourism. Just look at France as well.

[@robertpetre9378]

@@petyrkowalski9887 yes even though politically I don’t agree with anything France has done recently it still managers to cope without an unelected monarchy.

[@Korschtal]

Of course you would: we've not had a king in Bavaria for a century, but people still flock to Neuschwanstein Castle. In France Versailles is a tourist draw. You would probably get an increase in tourist income without the family because their expensive estates would be thrown open to visitors.

[@sarahbannon4752]

@@Korschtal Excellent point! I love Versailles and the history that goes along with the Bourbons and the French Revolution, I don’t need a French royal family to still exist to enjoy the history. In fact, it becomes even more interesting by being far removed from contemporary life.

[@lemsip207]

@@petyrkowalski9887 The weather is better there and the population density half the population density of the UK.

[@hardyakka1499]

Abolish the monarchy

[@mrjonno]

Seems that the Windsors missed a chance yesterday. I desperately want constitutional change as a Green for PR and a sustainable future for our children in a society that works together. The mad thing is that Charles championed such and now he's a mute for our unwritten constitution that has no relevance in C21. Bonkers.

[@gracespearson229]

I question the massive costs, efforts & organisation involved in preparing for & staging an event such as this. I'm in my seventies & am conflicted.

[@susangreen8820]

Look up the facts it cost £200 million the revenue for the coronation so far is £350 million so its cost us nothing so when you want to abolish the monarchy and get a head of state the country will gone and look up how much the RF pay in tax .

[@richardmurphy4520]

Greedy Betty had NO conflict of interest when she wilfully deposited $10 billion U.S.D. ( £7.6 billion) into her UK tax evasion account in the Cayman isles central bank in November 2017. Her spineless adulterous son and heir now has complete control of these and other financial assets. p.s. Commonwealth ?, for who ?, when,s the first or last time you received a cheque for your participation in that ," racket."

[@skyblazeeterno]

@@susangreen8820 statistics quoted without sources can be mocked as pulled from your backside

[@susangreen8820]

@skyblaze eterno like I said look it up get your facts right thinking you know it all because your facts are coming out of where the sun don't shine .

[@gracespearson229]

@@susangreen8820 I'm expressing an opinion, not stating a fact.

[@BrianFairlamb]

Yeah id rather have lower gas and electricity prices and cheaper food ....

[@danielwebb8402]

Otherwise known as "Gimme, gimme, gimme"

[@chriswilkinson7636]

If we got rid of the Monarchy tomorrow do you seriously believe that the cost of living crisis would suddenly end? That's naive thinking.

[@BrianFairlamb]

@@danielwebb8402 Stop smoking that stuff your damaged

[@Coelacanth1]

@@danielwebb8402 Otherwise known as ' a better quality of life ' of which studies have consistently shown cause folk to be more relaxed about archaic institutions.

[@chrisbfreelance]

Those have nothing to do with having a Monarchy.

[@Kidsfunz-o9j]

You are right , head of state should be elected , this feudal system monarchy should be abolished

[@shangyien]

I'm surprised it has lasted this long.

[@richardmurphy4520]

Testament to the gullibility, naivety, and basic stupidity of we the British subjects of an unelected global land pariah overlord.

[@AlbertTheGamer-gk7sn]

But it is a legend, and we want legends to live.

[@hhds113]

@@AlbertTheGamer-gk7sn Nothing lasts forever. Just like Rome. They thought they will last forever.

[@AlbertTheGamer-gk7sn]

@@hhds113 We should try our bests to keep the legends alive.

[@FAS1948]

Among my parent's generation, born in the first decade of the 20th century, royalty and aristocracy were known collectively as the aristobugracy, and my mother shocked some of her contemporaries by refusing to stand for the national anthem. It should be no surprise that I will avoid this coronation, just as I did the last, and it looks like the weather might be similar, to dampen the enthusiasm of the cap doffers and and forelock tuggers; oh dear, how sad, never mind.

[@FAS1948]

Incidentally, I and my family had always voted Tory, until Thatcher came along and destroyed the party as we knew it, and since then, I have moved progressively toward the left.

[@johnnyroadcrew3841]

Incidentally Frank, the party was not the only thing MT destroyed.

[@cdean2789]

Human Rights Watch slammed Saturday's arrest by UK police of protesters at the coronation of King Charles III as "incredibly alarming". "This is something you would expect to see in Moscow, not London," the campaign group said, attacking the UK government for its "increasingly averse" stance on public demonstrations.

[@yourmother2739]

@@FAS1948 We need the workers to own the means of production.

[@saga685]

My mother didn't even watch the coronation, and she loves the pomp and ceremony. There isn't a lot of love for Charles in Australia; people are either indifferent towards him, or downright hate the guy. Especially now that the papers showing his involvement in the sacking of Gough Whitlam have come to light. We're currently working on implementing the Voice to Parliament for Indigenous Australians (which is far more important), but rest assured, a Republic Referendum is next.

[@thinkingallowed7042]

So you are in favour of a third parliamentary chamber with the power of veto over legislation if an unelected group of unaccountable and unelected 'experts' selected on the basis of race by a tight knit group not required to demonstrate their qualifications or fitness to exercise power doesn't like it? I thought you wokies believed in merit and transparency... isn't that your quarrel with the monarchy? You like the thought of paying an additional layer of taxation including increased council rates in order to pay rent to the indigenous which will over time change and undermine the very concept of property ownership for the non indigenous? Then you're as wise as a turkey voting for Christmas. Anthony Albanese, or Elmer Fudd/Albosleazy as his detractors call him, is greatly influenced by Gough Whitlam. Most Australians not around in the 1970s and without some background or interest in law are unaware that Whitlam's dreams for Australia included the abolition of states. He wanted power concentrated in local councils. This was defeated in a High Court challenge brought by one of the states, from memory it was Victoria. Albanese is the most extreme socialist to lead Australia since Whitlam and Whitlam is his political hero. He will probably try and revive this failed goal of Whitlam's and once that happens, taxes will skyrocket to pay reparations to every different 'indigenous nation' within your local area and your right to own property unless you are indigenous will be in jeopardy. The latest Roy Morgan polling shows that support for this nonsense has fallen to 46%. Finally, Australians are starting to wake up. Constitutional change on this scale is harmful to Australia and given the pitiful level of understanding of the Constitution that most people have, this is not an issue that should ever have been put to the people in the first place.

[@lemsip207]

Thank goodness for catch up TV. It was on four channels today and there wasn't anything I wanted to watch on Channel Four at the time. There's always Film Four if they have a film on that I wanted to watch. The spoof soap opera The Windsors with a coronation episode was on TV last weekend.

[@dianafarmer5445]

I didn't know he had anything to do with the sacking of Gough Whitlam, but this voice to Parliment is going to divide the Country, it will be a big NO from me. But yes I can't stand Charles.

[@richardmurphy4520]

Why did King Charles buy convicted multi child molester Reverend Peter Ball a house after he was released from prison. ? ( he abused 10 under age boys)

[@yourmother2739]

Who is Gough Whitlam?

[@JohnnyinMN]

Paying taxes to a substandard family forever and for nothing? I couldn’t even imagine as an American. No surprise why Brexit happened.

[@lesleyrobertson5465]

I want their payrise

[@richardmurphy4520]

And they want the tax off of the piffling derisory 5% extra you might get after a 2 year battle on the picket lines and at their royal law courts.

[@lesleyrobertson5465]

@@richardmurphy4520 nurses get paid £4-5,000/yr in Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 more than in England

[@richardmurphy4520]

@@lesleyrobertson5465 Thats no bone of contention when a mid size pack of Lurpack butter costs £5.

[@alleynealisleem9777]

Me Too!!!

[@davidwright8432]

As a war baby (born 1943) I must be entering my second youth - or maybe never left the first. I watched a bit of the Abbey service, simply because I like well-produced and directed spectacle. As pure spectacle, it was magnificent. But to appropriate Shakespeare, it was 'Full of sound and glory, and signifying - nothing.' I felt I was in a time warp. I remember the last coronation (I was 10) - and this was an eerie rerun with higher TV production values. Nothing within the Abbey had changed; outside, everything had. That's simply an unsustainable disconnect. Elizabeth was an impossible act to follow. Better not even to try, and draw a line under the whole business. At least they'll get out of it alive. Quit while you're ahead, why don't you.

[@richardmurphy4520]

Greedy Betty is well dead. It is right and fitting.

[@annewalden3795]

@@richardmurphy4520 There was nothing greedy about Queen Elizabeth who did her duty to the U K and the Commonwealth.

[@richardmurphy4520]

@@annewalden3795 p.s. Commonwealth for WHO ?. ( When's the first or last time you received a commonwealth cheque with YOUR name on it ?).

[@annewalden3795]

@@richardmurphy4520 What does a cheque have to do with the Commonwealth of Nations?

[@patriot1952-os6mh]

❤ YOU KNOW IT, I KNOW IT, BUT SO MANY DON'T HAVE A CLUE! ❤

[@iandennis1]

I’m taking my son out to avoid it. I agree with all you say here

[@stephenbarrow3352]

Im a sixty year old yougster and yes lets be rid of this outdated symbol of class division.

[@stephenbarrow3352]

@@terencedenman702 sorry don't know what you're talking about. I don't do the press.

[@stephenbarrow3352]

@@terencedenman702 still don't see what that has to do with my original comment. Are you just trying to get me to bite. If so it won't work. Sorry to disappoint.

[@gusmcewan]

And this is why I love you so much - spot on!

[@cazhatten3341]

Im in my 50s & i find a lot of people my age arent fans of the monarchy. I havent seen much enthusiasm around the coronation generally either.

[@robertskolimowski7049]

Bravo Owen, obvious, but very well put points👏

[@ilariabarnett8700]

I am all for the monarchy to go, now.

[@edeledeledel5490]

You're a Moody Blues fan, then?

[@AlbertTheGamer-gk7sn]

But what if your country gets invaded by pesky commies and they send you to a Gulag-style labor camp for nothing? You would definitely wish that the monarchy comes back and saves you.

[@RichardAmuir-f2l]

Over there in the UK, it's time to flush the toilet y'all. That's the double-truth!

[@patriciafanning6643]

I won't be watching Charlie getting his diamond studded jaggy bunnet, got to plant out my cabbages, seriously, my neighbours already have their orders in

[@thatveganliam5863]

You’re wrong about not being able to get rid of him, we did it with the first Charles after all

[@KemPeck1701]

and it took a civil war to make that happen.. i wish there was another way to get the same result, personally

[@Coelacanth1]

'' we did ' No 'we' didn't, the leader of a conquering military force did after a national civil war. A leader who would later change his mind, to actually accept a royal commission to go and terrorise the Irish.

[@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935]

The Kaiser and the Tsar no longer had a military willing and able to cut the underclass off the streets.

[@Coelacanth1]

@@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935 It will be by ' subject ' lack of interest that Britain's monarchy will dissolve. Notice the word ; dissolve ,of which describes a process and a process that is perhaps already under way. Now the monarchy could save itself by perhaps looking to what remaining European monarchies have done for their own survival.

[@mintychris1]

And then they realised that he was being replaced by a "Lord Protector" who abused his powers so they reinstalled the monarchy.

[@lizwiz6434]

The late Queen never said anything so no one really knew her.

[@storkythepunk]

Top video, you just cheered me up about getting old, i now know that in 18 months that I will be lowering the pro Monarchy statistics for the over 65s, cheers 😀🤣😃 Viva La Republic

[@bryansmith1920]

I actually mourn the passing of the Mother of his children more than I will Him

[@danielwebb8402]

In her y-shaped coffin

[@lorenzobianchini4415]

The death of Diana was a truly tragic event.Camilla Parker Bowles is no Diana.❤

[@das5813]

The main problem I have, as a socialist left supporter, is what would the government replace the monarchy with when we've already proved that a democratically elected mob of people you call a government is just as ruthless as a dictatorship tyrant.

[@elainereaper259]

The entire system needs complete change

[@SamuelDurkin]

Nothing, we could replace it with nothing at all.. we don't need a head of state.. if you want a figure head we could just have an inanimate object. The crown, a rubber-stamp or a paper weight.

[@das5813]

@@SamuelDurkin But who is going to represent the justice and truth and counter the outrageous thefts of the taxes by Conservative Donors?

[@Pacbandit13]

​@@das5813 no one the UK governmental system is corrupted

[@Lee_303]

​@@das5813 not to mention, foreign governments & their attempts at controlling us.

[@razabadass]

Thanks

[@garrybowers414]

The sooner the better

[@AlbertTheGamer-gk7sn]

But what if your country gets invaded by pesky commies and they send you to a Gulag-style labor camp for nothing? You would definitely wish that the monarchy comes back and saves you.

[@marieallen9715]

I travelled from Toryland (Cotswolds) to Leicester yesterday. From every town/village bedecked with flags to.....normality, not a flag to be seen except in shops(desperately trying not to offend). Working class people - especially the young - could care less about history, they are more concerned with the present, unjust, system. Did we see an coverage on TV of the Midlands and the North's response to Saturdays theatricals?

[@ernestthesmallholder559]

I would like to point out that the Cotswold is now no longer Toryland - It has just elected a Liberal democrat council. I don't live in Cotswold nor England.

[@richardmurphy4520]

That,ll explain why they call the Cotswolds, " mini Israel."

[@learningtofly3116]

I only care in that I object to us having to pay for it

[@danielwebb8402]

I'm sure lots of taxpayers object to paying substantially more for your pet likes too. That's life.

[@McCRBen]

Could the Royals have paid for it themselves ?

[@khalidrashad-xu8xe]

The monarchy would be a nice thing to have if there is social justice , nobody is homless or underfed . How can people who never did a decent day's work in their life be owners of hundreds of billions while millions who are paying taxes are struggling to survive ?

[@audreymcgready4329]

Facial recognition being used. Police state.

[@Ghengiskhansmum]

Anyone would think we lived in China, North Korea. Oddly enough many of the camera's in use in Britain are made in China.

[@chrisbfreelance]

You know nothing about China to make such a silly comparison.

[@jjefferyworboys8138]

That makes me feel a lot safer. Only criminals should fear it.

[@cdean2789]

Human Rights Watch are Reporting on today's events

[@simonspoke]

I'm a royalist, but I think the monarchy has died along with Elizabeth II.

[@AlbertTheGamer-gk7sn]

As Queen Elizabeth II betrayed her British Empire, and now, as she floats up to heaven, she told her princes that they must save the empire for her.

[@LordGeneralOHara]

​@@AlbertTheGamer-gk7snthere was no option for queen lizzie colonialism had died out when she was in rule

[@AlbertTheGamer-gk7sn]

@@LordGeneralOHara She could have tried something to revive the British Empire, especially considering she had 7 whole DECADES on the throne, and she could have chosen 1 Planck Time to start something that could save the British Empire.

[@LordGeneralOHara]

@@AlbertTheGamer-gk7sn do you think I could revive the British Empire as king? HELL NO so queen Lizzie couldn't have restored it bc she doesn't control parliment or she couldn't have put troops on the colonies bc that would be "bad"

[@AlbertTheGamer-gk7sn]

@@LordGeneralOHara At least she could have issued an edict or a treaty that can help save the British Empire.

[@tommynocash2419]

can we not just have a national dog instead of a head of state

[@JohnSmith-ei2pz]

Camilla?

[@cdean2789]

A poodle.

[@makslargu5799]

Mayor max!

[@lizzie31]

​@@JohnSmith-ei2pz not sure if the misogyny in this comment was intended or not but seriously, think about what you're saying here

[@MrTooEarnestOnline]

Long live the Levelers!! Long live the diggers!!

[@Jay_No]

The monarchy were, and are, the original gangsters.

[@cdean2789]

The Firm

[@richardmurphy4520]

They make Ronnie & Reggie look like Paddington & Rupert bears.

[@bente1881]

We dont need a president . Its enough with the prime minister.

[@TimesTicking666]

The sooner the monarchy is gone the better !!! Agree 100%

[@jjefferyworboys8138]

100% disagree.

[@jeffworthington9286]

I am 65 and have never wanted a monarch so outdated and old fashioned. And when you ask people why they want a monarch they give you this thing about money from tourism . Can anyone tell me how much the average person gets from this.

[@familyseed1555]

I don't see how the democracy is new.

[@567secret]

3:40 I want to see a version of this graph that's done by generation rather than age, as in this graph you have people moving between the categories as they age. A generational graph would show us if it's just that younger generations are more opposed to the monarchy, or everyone is drifting towards opposition.

[@chrisbfreelance]

Also many below the age of 25 in this country think TikTok is the peak of cultural civilization.

[@Bezart34]

The quicker they go, the better.

[@simonetobie1000]

Apparently "The main income stream for the Royal Family is the Sovereign Grant, which cost the taxpayer £86m in the 2021-22 tax year, or £236,000 a day." I'm sure that with a vast amount of ordinary people struggling to make ends meet, we could do with this money and should have more of a say of where our taxes are spent 🧐

[@cabbageswithcars9532]

spot on the royals are just parasites.

[@happinesstan]

They [the crown estate] make a fortune in rent alone.

[@bobbyb379]

@@happinesstan not to mention the c. 55% of the UK shoreline that they own too.

[@esmith6656]

that sounds like a little bit over a pound per person a year.

[@makslargu5799]

@@esmith6656 that’s not all the money they get though, as someone else pointed out they get money from the crown estate which and then the revenue from their duchies

[@seekingabsolution1907]

I hope that's true. I think I'll always be a religious man, but the divine right of kings is long past its hay day and holds no appeal to me. Get rid of the monarchs. They're quaint, but not worthwhile.

[@biffa1234100]

im all for giving this charlie the same treatment as we gave to one of his predecessors and namesakes

[@janepearce5382]

Maybe the second one, but don't invite him back!?

[@davidpowell6098]

@@janepearce5382 No, the first one, I'll do the deed.

[@janepearce5382]

@david powell well you do you :) Though my way does involve some other country who's willing to have him. Bit of a hard sell!

[@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935]

Treason didn’t put a black mark on picking blue blood boy’s names between 1948 and 1965.

[@richardmurphy4520]

Chop ! Chop !

[@robertjdocherty4986]

Why do need to replace the monarchy with an elected head of state? We could just abolish the monarchy and then have state visits hosted by parliament and use the existing foreign service to represent us abroad.

[@richardmurphy4520]

Our parliamentarians are all in the back pocket of the Windsor mafia gangsters. ( Via the oath of allegiance they MUST swear to get the gig in the first place.)