The Monsters From Wichita

[@ScaryInteresting]

Hey everyone! Hope you enjoy this longer true-crime-type story. This will be the first of much more variety in the coming months. Thank you all so much for watching, and have a great Sunday! - Sean

[@wog25]

Just promise us you won't be like all the rest. Cover obscure less heard of stuff. We don't need more 30 mins video on like amber tuccaro or Madeline McCann

[@alfredpeasant5980]

We asked, you answered. Legend.

[@barbaralamson7450]

Does longer have to mean advertisements? If so, shorter is always better.

[@alfredpeasant5980]

@@barbaralamson7450 even if he doesn't monetize, KZbin will slide them in anyway.

[@barbaralamson7450]

​@@alfredpeasant5980 Thank you. I appreciate the information.

[@davidskipton690]

The fact that the friend woke him up to tell him instead of calling the cops is wild.

[@BushMaster420circle]

or the guy seeing the truck n driving to the police station to tell the cops instead of calling n making sure whoever was in truck didnt leave xD

[@levitatingoctahedron922]

if your friends wouldn't wake you up instead of calling the cops on you, they aren't good friends. I don't care what your crime was. I feel sorry for you if your friends first instinct is to fuck you over when they suspect you of committing a crime.

[@kyralindsey5885]

@@levitatingoctahedron922 nope. id turn in my own brother if he was accused of SA.

[@dave_the_slick8584]

@@levitatingoctahedron922 What kind of dumbass shit...?

[@davidskipton690]

@@levitatingoctahedron922 When they describe exactly what the guy was wearing and he's passed the fuck out on the couch in the middle of the day when the crime happened in the middle of the night, and he's acting weird, and he's normally with his brother who also was described, yeah, I'm calling the fucking cops. This is murder, not shoplifting. If you're doing this shit for your friends or they're doing that for you, you're fucked up people to begin with.

[@m.ccheddarbox874]

If you ever think you're being followed, don't go home. It's literally the worst thing you can do other than getting out of the car to confront them.

[@ZugzugZugzugson]

better yet, drive to the nearest populated public area, like a mall or even better: a police station. no way they're gonna pull any shenanigans in such circumstances.

[@richardcranium3579]

Better yet call someone at home if they are competent people and have them waiting for you. Make sure they bring Ruger which if they are competent people who have Commonsense they will bring him without being told. When you pull in the party can begin. Imagine the perverts surprise.

[@SM-ce1uy]

@@richardcranium3579 lol in UK you are not even allowed to defend yourself with reasonable force, let alone bring a Ruger. I literally just do not go out at night, I mean it. it is that bad

[@donaldduck3078]

Get a gun, learn to use it, stop being a victim

[@tonysopranooo1]

just carry a gun lol, stop being a helpless victim

[@ArtyI]

The first incident is a very good example of why you should never go to a second location. Don’t slide over, don’t let them in your car. If they’re going to shoot you, better to have witnesses to call for help, if they’re not, they won’t now

[@StAlphonsusHasAPosse]

Yep

[@hammysauce]

Yes! And the second victim is an example that if you think you're being followed DON'T go home. Keep driving, find your way to a police station.

[@jonesjones7057]

100% I even told my kids that when they were young. Someone threatens you, even with a gun, run and scream. Don't get in that car. Unfortunately if you do, it's likely worse than death, just as what these people went through before they were shot anyway. Basically it's either get away, die or be tortured then die. Absolute nightmare fuel this whole story.

[@Duckman1616]

@@jonesjones7057 Congrats on telling your children horrible advice that could get them killed one day because they're more afraid to lose their car than their life.

[@jonesjones7057]

@@Duckman1616 you don't even make sense go take a nap and try again.

[@jessicabrewer1720]

If you ever think someone's following your car, drive to the police station! Don't show them where you live or give them the opportunity to get you.

[@scruffy-thejanitor]

Seriously! If you think someone is following you, take 3 lefts. There's no reason for anyone to take 3 lefts after you. You don't lead them directly to your home and sit there 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@the_furry_inside_your_walls639]

That, or go to a well lit parking lot of a super market that is open 24/7 and has cameras all over the lot, like a Walmart. If your supposed stalker tries anything stupid, it'll end up on camera and the store owners will feel obligated to hand over the footage to the police when they go to investigate.

[@blubberingbuffoons]

ikr 💀 bro wth

[@arcticfox5118]

Or better yet if you can afford it and the police station is not an option for whatever reason. Keep your tank at 75%+ full at all times and keep on driving while calling the cops.

[@TheMattTrakker]

Or keep a gun in your car

[@LoudWaffle]

I'm floored by the fact that the girl woke Jonathan up and questioned him about the crimes. Hello???? Her and her mother are lucky to be alive, and thank god he was too lazy to run and potentially escape.

[@yeahnope620]

That's because only westoid midddle class people are stupid enough to rat out their own friends. Everybody else covers for each other. That's not to say that these 2 brothers did not deserve their judgement. They absolutely did, as they were clearly savages unfit for society. But if you are surrounded by such people and call them friends to begin with, then odds are, you are probably not an angel yourself. And in any case you don't rat out friends no matter what they've done.

[@dangerousdays2052]

Wrong. You don't sell out your friends.

[@LoudWaffle]

@@dangerousdays2052 What??

[@devconley9483]

@@dangerousdays2052FBI having a field day with this comment section.

[@La0bouchere]

@@dangerousdays2052 Bro that stuff is for laws that don't make sense like weed, not torture

[@susanveach9013]

I was familiar with this story but never heard anyone speak about the background of the 2 men. Holly was not her real name but with all she had been through she more than deserved her right to privacy. Your presentation was very well done

[@rudolphschenker]

Yea 'Holly' was the real victim here, not the victims that were tortured, raped and brutally murdered just for the color of their skin.

[@notsocrates9529]

>The Kansas Supreme Court affirmed the death penalty for the brothers on January 21, 2022.[8] At least justice will be served.

[@ferguson8143]

​@@notsocrates9529 yes they been on death row for the majority of there sentences same with BTK but kansas doesn't have the death penalty for decades now

[@drabnail777]

Did that pos "mom" get any justice tho?

[@kdawson020279]

Actually, her name was. Holly Dunn (married now, referred to only as Holly G. in court records) has a self-named website that is for survivor support as a result of the crimes she survived. She didn't retain her anonymity and is a strong survivor helping others. Jason Befort's younger sister used to babysit for my son as they and my wife are all from the same town in western Kansas. You don't bring these brothers up in her presence.

[@Paintbait]

When I hear stories like this I'm reminded of something I once heard, or perhaps read: If someone is threatening you with violence, do not allow them to take you to a different location if you are able to. Crime studies have shown that, in most cases, when the victim is forced to a separate location from the site of an abduction the outcome is almost always fatal. If you know that what will happen to you elsewhere is certain (probably horrible) death, try to escape from them where you are now. It's impossible to know how one might react in that situation, but I think if more people knew this I think someone - somewhere - might live because of it. Or, the cynic in me talking, die a less horrific death. Personal violence is not like being held up as a teller at the bank: you will most likely be hurt even if you give them what they want. The presentation was great as always, but it gave me chills and it seems like a good place to share.

[@nickyblue4866]

Never go to a second location. At best you die... at worse.... there's no limit to the horror that will happen to you. Also life isnt a movie... you wont escape or change you captors mind or end up beating them up. For all the cases where you hear that the victim escaped captivity there are countless cases where the victim did not.

[@EllaNonimato]

it is true, but if you are alone. what about if they threaten to kill or torture someone else, or a pet?

[@alexthegr8estt]

@@EllaNonimato every man for himself

[@alexthegr8estt]

You’re totally right, I was thinking if someone came up to my locked car with a gun pointed at me, just slam on the gas. If they shoot you, they’ll be gaining nothing. I figure that you have a way better chance of survival by trying to fight rather than just by being a passive victim

[@donnydogpiss4533]

Paintbait I think the term is "crime scene number 2". Don't ever let them take you to _crime scene number 2._

[@fatovamingus]

When I was 20 I'm sitting in my car just turned it on and a man and woman went on each side but the passenger door was the door that opened. The girl said "slide over" and I just threw it into drive and took off . They were hurling their groceries at my car. I went to the police and all I could remember was the grocery thing. They were arrested later that night for a carjacking and felony assault. They were also charged with shoplifting at Price Chopper.

[@AyeliaGDoren]

OMG! If you're driving in your car and you think someone is following you, you don't drive to your home you drive to the nearest police station, jfc!

[@TypewriterBlood]

And don’t roll your window down to talk to them 😭

[@danielnanninga]

​@@TypewriterBlood and don't offer to please them orally with your filthy tongue that you forgot to brush

[@Captain-Palsy]

Unfortunately many people do the opposite I had a similar situation when i was in my early 20s.

[@danielnanninga]

@@Captain-Palsy ikr how hard is it to remember to brush you tongue so when a gunman confronts you you can offer a clean bj and save your life

[@Clem62]

I've been in the situation where I am the one who would appear to be following . It happens frequently the closer you are to your own neighborhood, then street etc. Obvious reasons. Always makes me wonder what the driver in front is thinking.

[@robertbeard230]

They recently appealed their death sentences and both were denied. It may have been the local media, their attorney, or both, but somewhere in the mix, “… considering the recent events surrounding George Floyd,” was mentioned and absolutely nobody bought it as a defense of any kind. These men are straight up evil. I don’t care how they were raised; as an adult, you’re responsible for your own actions, and should be prepared to face the consequences of those actions.

[@danielhicks4826]

Oh give there local DA a few years i'm sure they will be let out by some activists scumbag.

[@danielhicks4826]

Yeah surprised the Kansas Governor didn't let them out frankly....

[@Eye_Of_Odin978]

Give it time. Some anti-white racist attorney will find a way to make it the VICTIM'S fault due to "mUh GeNeRaTioNaL TrAuMa FroM MuH SLaVrRy" or whatever dogs%it excuse they have that week for "why killing and SA'ing white people is justifiable"

[@charliewegner]

@@danielhicks4826if you’re meaning a BLM activist, you’re so fucking wrong.

[@zawarudo1041]

Pointing out gun at pendant women is evil as well

[@MrCelloman999]

If someone wants to take you to another location at gunpoint, DO NOT GO WITH THEM. If they wanted to kill you right there, they would do it right there. You go with them, you’re done. If you refuse and try to escape right then and there, you will have a fighting chance.

[@blubberingbuffoons]

wow that's actually logic I hadn't considered

[@annalucy89]

no one can know how one is going to react when put in that horrific situation! There's a primal fear that takes over and every rational thought you think you might've had goes away immediately and the only thing on your mind is to survive. So when someone sticks a gun in your face and tells you to go with them there is not much fighting that can happen because you'll just definitely get shot on the spot. When people are put in this position they desperately think that if they do whatever they're told they'll get to live. It's a robotic response you make from fear and desperation. I constantly see this comment on these types of videos and even though it's true in some cases it's mostly impossible for an unarmed and helpless person, possibly naked after being assaulted and in shock, to actually fight back in any way! Especially with a weapon pointed right at you and a threat of harm. So unfortunately is this not going to be a possibility or even reality most of the time. People have also been saved by doing exactly what they're told in fact, but killed because they fought back.

[@perinthia6829]

That may be true, but they tricked them into thinking they were going to release them somewhere it would just take a while to call the cops, in reality if your a victim of a violent crime like this and they make no effort to hide their identity, they have every intention in killing you

[@richardcranium3579]

@@annalucy89you need to go ahead and get it in your mind that you need to not go with someone to a second location. Do it ahead of time to influence what you will do if that occurs. Train your brain. You go to another location you will die.

[@SM-ce1uy]

@@annalucy89 yes maybe 1 out of 1,000 was allowed to leave ... you are definitely right that people can't think clearly, let's not judge other victims but rather educate and let people know it is better to never agree to be taken to a different location. I see nothing wrong with people repeating this fact

[@curator3539]

That's so sad and crazy, I can't imagine the amount of therapy poor Holly needed after surviving all that

[@robinmcinarnay7827]

Well her and Andrew, the first victim, connected during the trial and married Oct 2, 2004. I think they helped each other to heal through their shared trauma no one else could possibly relate to. She must be pretty well adjusted bc she teaches 4th grade, so well in fact she even became Teacher of the Year.

[@razz-8031]

@@robinmcinarnay7827 - You don't hear about too many positive outcomes such as hers. I think the only other person on the planet that could realistically know what that person went through and possibly how to ease her conscience somewhat is the man she married as you stated. Although his fate wasn't even close to as traumatizing as Holly's.

[@Hal-yc9jd]

@@robinmcinarnay7827 Wow thanks for sharing

[@nathangaspacio6128]

@@robinmcinarnay7827 Thank you for bringing to light at least some positives from this bleak situation.

[@mboyer68]

He failed to mention that Holly got herpes from the sa's. During victim impact statements after the trial she said that. Horrible. Usual suspects for such a violent and ill conceived crime also....

[@aimeeh2079]

I am in awe of how something so small as putting your hair up can save your life that is absolutely insane

[@et3182]

often times things in life come down to super small margins. Never know if it is gonna be a little thing that saves your life or ends it.

[@aimeeh2079]

@@et3182 absolutely. The butterfly effect, it's just an incredible reminder how everything has an effect and consequence

[@Eye_Of_Odin978]

You'd be surprised how often it happens. Someone I know was given a miniature bible by Billy Graham, of all people. He told her "it may help you someday when you need it most." She put it in her purse and moved on. Only a week later she was abducted and robbed, and the robber placed her purse over her head before firing a small handgun at it, execution-style. Miraculously, the mini bible actually STOPPED the .25 Caliber round inside it's pages and she lived because of that. Crazy story, but actually 100% true. I sourced it to a local paper who reported the incident, publishing bits and pieces from the police report.

[@khouayang2168]

The bullet hit a hair clip and that was what saved her. Incredibly fortunate for her.

[@bkpk4hisapplesauce]

tha hairtie said "not today" and fucked that bullet

[@erinsmith8213]

Little known fact is that it's been reported Holly and Andrew Schreiber bonded over their shared experiences. They later married and moved to Kansas City. I don't know if they are still married today. I live in Wichita as well and a coworker of mine served on the Carr Brothers jury.

[@nathangaspacio6128]

Your comment made me think about something. Outside of the obvious victims and their families, I also feel bad for the jury, judge, and especially the poor sap who had to defend these monsters in court.

[@omnirath]

@@nathangaspacio6128it’s their work and it’s part of the justice process

[@littlemissgwendolen1466]

Damn Holly is an incredible human. It always astounds me what the human body is capable of in crucial situations

[@jondickinson1142]

Holly was a complete bad ass in that situation...certified super hero...good thoughts to all the survivors.

[@ratlover523]

@@jondickinson1142 Was thinking the same thing. She'd been assaulted repeatedly before that but kept her cool so much and was willing to engage in talk with these men who were threatening her life and her friends' lives... and was doing it intelligently, studying them all the while. Then keeping her cool AFTER BEING SHOT IN THE HEAD enough to go find help. Her testimony is basically what got them caught. Amazing woman and I hope her life is wonderful today.

[@jsequine927]

Yeah, volunteered to go with them to the ATM (which the men should never have allowed her to do), attempted to barter with them and built a rapport. And then willed her naked body after being shot through thick snow to safety. Resilient, smart lady.

[@spiritoftheforest6204]

No excuse for bad behaviour. What an horrific ordeal. I hope that poor lady recovers from what she was put through and the loss of her friends. What evil 'men'

[@alexandercarroll9707]

I am concerned this attitude isn’t more widespread

[@Lawrence_Talbot]

Sure “no excuse”. If this was a woman committing these crimes lashing out after being horribly abused by her father, y’all would talk about evil men are and feel sympathy for her. Not to justify what they ultimately did, but it’s pretty disgusting the abuse these brothers went through as young boys. It’s actually a common trait amongst serial killers to have a broken home, with either an emotionally distant or down right abusive mother.

[@BrettonFerguson]

There are things that can mess a person up emotionally, but a lot of people suffer abuse, some worse than this, and don't turn into assholes like this. Many just end up making poor decisions and alcoholics or drug addicts, but not killers.

[@alexandercarroll9707]

@@Lawrence_Talbot your comment is bizarre

[@Douglas_I]

@Lawrence Talbot after hearing about this horrible incident, your first thought is to make this a debate about equal treatment for men and women?! That's actually pretty alarming. I'm a little worried about the people in your life!

[@MasterFarellGaming]

"Proceeds to wake up the person who is most likely a psychopathic killer instead of just simply calling the cops" Ah yes, I see she is a resident of stupid town!

[@packerman7410]

Dumbass city is more like that

[@dangerousdays2052]

Wrong. You don't sell out yer friends. Typical gamer, that wouldn't understand what it is like to even have friends, hahahaha! 😂🤣

[@justin9744]

Well it is Kansas

[@nathangaspacio6128]

@@dangerousdays2052 If you knew your friend raped and killed someone and the only way they could get convicted was through your witness testimony, would you not testify? There is loyalty, and then there is immorality.

[@FartySpammy]

@@dangerousdays2052farty on da pee pee

[@thegreatchickenoverlord5976]

This why the death penalty exists. I get the arguments against it, but it is specifically for cases like this

[@meredithgrubb4497]

I absolutely agree

[@AislingLauraLand]

Well this happened over 20 years ago and the brothers are still in jail. Death penalty seems like a bit of a joke if it takes that long!

[@theanswerisowl]

I'm the opposite, I get why people might want it in cases like this, but I still think the death penality should not exist anywhere.

[@Takeninthelight]

@@theanswerisowl Exactly. The state should NEVER be allowed to execute people. It often just snowballs into doing it to appease a public sentiment. There is no justice with death.

[@skarloeythomas5172]

@@theanswerisowl I am too when the reason the death penalty is wrong is the propensity for misevaluated justice, even on alleged murderers, is too high. However these two aren’t alleged. They were uniquely incompetent about creating any doubt, leaving much evidence and multiple witnesses, with nothing extenuating a barbaric spree of grievous crimes; this isn’t capital punishment metered our over a single, hazy death. This is the fringe case that allows for social murder in all cynics, idealists and pragmatists, and only ideological zealots would remain opposed out of tradition of opposing.

[@ea8269]

A lot of people grow up in dysfunctional families but they don't become a murderer.

[@StewyAdamRules]

I have to imagine these men were a little off from birth. Given a better upbringing, they might have been halfway decent. The combination of their horrible childhood and their innate instability made them this way.

[@RealElongatedMuskrat]

I can't imagine how nightmarish that must've been for Andrew and all the other victims. To not know how long you're going to be held by these psychopaths, what they're going to do to you, if you're going to be taken somewhere to be killed or messed with some more before being dumped to freeze to death.

[@ferguson8143]

I find it hard to imagine that they all just sit there and didn't do shit even when it was just one brother

[@drabnail777]

It's also such a nightmare about how these killers are made. Kids need their fathers. How long before this overt sexism is acknowledged in family court?

[@errata101]

If ever in a situation, never let fate dictate-you all fight like your lives depended upon it and fight fight fight! Better to test fate and survive rather than die in submission.

[@errata101]

@@ferguson8143 people freeze up, they hesitate and allow fear to dictate their submission. People should make physical-hand to hand/hand to weapon combat training a priority. People just never expect the unexpected in today's random "civilized" world.

[@ferguson8143]

@@errata101 flight or fight and more times then not people will freeze and not take action and just comply and can be worse when in group of people because they will most often do the same

[@blondie7740]

One of the most important thing to remember, if you are being attacked, do not let your attackers take from your location. Your chance of survival significantly declines and you will be much harder, if not impossible to find.

[@ZugzugZugzugson]

and how are you gonna do that with a gun to your head? refuse and hope for the best? its easy to be an armchair psychologist from the comfort of your chair, but if you have a gun to your head and are panicking, usually its hard to make a reasonable judgement, especially depending on where the incident occurs... if you're already in a remote area with no witnesses, you are better off taking your chances with the 2nd location, because if they wanted to shoot you and get away with it they could do it right then and there. the first guy in the story ended up surviving by the skin of his teeth, he got really lucky, and that was despite going to this other location. i'm sure they discussed the option to off him before agreeing that it was better to let him go, though. sadly for the 5 teenagers in the 2nd incident, these two monsters had grown bold to the point they felt they could get away with quadruple or quintuple murder, which was their intention.

[@Sophie-ip2vt]

@@ZugzugZugzugsonit’s not being an armchair psychologist. It’s actually great advice, and of course no one knows how they will react in this situation however if people read this advice and know in the back of their mind to try and fight there and then rather than agree to a secondary location, it could very well save their lives. Rather than attacking someone with a snarky response, maybe just let them give advice that could save future lives? Just a thought.

[@Sophie-ip2vt]

@@ZugzugZugzugsonand yes, depending on the scenario a secondary location may be better. Ideally if someone is being forced to drive somewhere (that isn’t in the middle of nowhere) then you could drive into (not at high speed obviously) the guard rails or something on the side of the road. The person will likely run off knowing how much attention they’d then get following that.

[@SethTheProphet]

They got off too easy. They should've rotted away in a gibbet until the crows started pecking at the remains...

[@CondemnedGuy]

They should've been flayed a bit every few days. Living without skin would make this monsters wish they'd never been born.

[@fredriddles1763]

They had a rough childhood, there's no sense torturing them for a lifestyle they didn't choose. The death sentence is the best outcome: get their horrible lives over with before moving on with the mourning process.

[@heibk-2014]

​@@fredriddles1763 these guys are monsters they should have been tortured

[@asdfgoogle]

@@fredriddles1763 thanks for saying that. That's a new perspective for me. Very interesting...

[@Foxfire-xq5ij]

@Fred Riddles You know who also had terrible childhoods? Children that survived Nazi death camps, yet we don’t and didn’t see hundreds of Jewish seriously killers and rapists after World War II. A bad childhood is no excuse for willful acts of rape, murder, and theft.

[@E5PY]

This is the first episode of yours I have been unable to finish. It is absolutely terrifying how in humane people can be.

[@nathangaspacio6128]

Same, I thought nature's most dangerous places and human stupid mistakes were scary, but human evil is probably one of the scariest things in nature.

[@marciegalo]

*men

[@marciegalo]

@@nathangaspacio6128*men

[@TeaCup1940]

⁠@@marciegaloSome women are as evil as some men, just in different ways.

[@gavinjenkins899]

Never let someone take you to a second location if you have a choice. Being held at gunpoint outside a car = slam on the gas. They might shoot you, but the kind of person who would shoot you even then was DEFINITELY going to torture/kill you at a second location. Some people who are less psycho though will let you go because they see they won't get whatever it is they want, and don't want the heat for an unsatisfying or non-lucrative murder.

[@relight6931]

See the gun through the window. I would just ley down, start the car and pedal it. Do not ever let them take you somewhere else even if you are starring at a gun barrel. There are so many worse things then death.

[@LewisPuseyOK]

Probably won't shoot and get the cops called. Or get out and throw the keys and take off.

[@pugachevskobra5636]

Someone can close the distance way faster than you can put your car in drive and stomp the gas, even if you decided not to check the road in front of you so you won’t hit anything. It sounds like you can do it in time but you can’t, and even if you managed to there’s no guarantee you won’t smash into something in front of you, leaving you incapacitated and in the same exact situation.

[@relight6931]

@@pugachevskobra5636 Could be, but one thing I know about myself is I am not going down without a fight. I got stabbed once, and other two times guys with knives just gave up. But in this exact situation, I would rather risk it, then let someone with a gun get in my already turned on car. On the street, gun pulled, sure. Take what you want, I ain't superman. But in a 2 ton weapon called an SUV.. I am taking my chances. That guy was lucky, unlike those guys later..

[@relight6931]

Also, you already checked the road by getting in the car. What are you talking about? Where else would you be looking at once you are in? Not saying my way is the smart way. As I said, I did almost got stabbed in my junk.. Waaaas very lucky and the knife hit my collar bone.

[@awepossum1059]

They will probably not shoot, if they do shoot they will probably miss. Once you let them into your car, you are donezo.

[@rshad4ever]

Just how idiotic to wake him up and ask him if he is the killer

[@jeffweiler1616]

Exactly! I guess her and her mother were lucky! Only because they were friends!

[@BRIDGETTattoo]

Thank you for uploading this video! And thank you for always keeping me company

[@ScaryInteresting]

Thanks for watching!

[@arturolopez450]

Like and subscribe for more and get us some pizza so we can watch the videos together

[@BRIDGETTattoo]

@@arturolopez450 😊

[@razz-8031]

@@arturolopez450 - Ha Ha Ha Ha. 👍

[@annohalloran6020]

Better to be shot than kidnapped and terrorized. Never obey a bad guy.

[@deoxxys]

It's a shame that they're doing away with the death penalty. Monsters like this need to be removed permanently so they can't hurt anyone else.

[@nathangaspacio6128]

@@wot.no.eulogy Ironically, unlike the men in this video, most of the dogs getting put down are genuinely just products of bad homes, and yet we hold them so harshly accountable for insignificant crimes like being too excitable.

[@anjap2746]

I love the true crime videos you’ve done! Longer form content suits you well, & I’m really liking where your channel is headed. You covered this case beautifully… I’m so blown away by the actions of these horrible men. I hope the victims are healing and doing okay

[@obscure_films]

People like this is why I always carry and have multiple hidden guns in my house. I'd rather meet my fate in a fight rather than on my knees in a ditch.

[@TeaCup1940]

Yes, but you also need to have access to those guns quickly. And they better be already loaded. And you better not have any small children around that could play with them. I hope you never have to use them to defend yourself. I think those criminals also somehow mostly chose and attack victims that are unarmed. I also think houses should be build with better materials where it would be difficult to force an entry. It seemed in this case that it was pretty easy for them to forcibly enter the house, what should't be.

[@kathyrussell7324]

Yes!!!! This is a good! I know you like to do videos on unfortunate events caving, etc. but this is good. You’re just as good as anybody out there! I’ve been subscribed to your channel since the beginning and I hope you get a million + subscribers. You deserve this Sean!!!

[@ScaryInteresting]

A good story is a good story, regardless of the genre! Thanks, Kathy!

[@marhawkman303]

@@ScaryInteresting that thing you mentioned about the hair... I've heard several other stories in the past where some seemingly unimportant bit of clothing saved someone. That and stuff in pockets. One of my cousins told me a tale from decades ago about someone whose name I forgot long ago who survived a knife fight in a bar because he had a book in his pocket and the knife hit the book. But this one being hair tied up is a variation I've not heard before.

[@abic2628]

My heart goes out to Holly who survived these two evil men.

[@PremierCCGuyMMXVI]

I feel so bad for her too! She lost her finances, her boyfriend, and three very close friends all because of two sick minded backward thinking brothers.

[@marcofransowitz4773]

Were her family members forced to rape her? Thats beyond fucked

[@outlawjoseywales6159]

The fact that these animals are still breathing is disgusting! This rocked the whole area and is still often spoke of by locals to this day. Her hair pin is what deflected the bullet btw. The pistols were a small caliber 22lr or none of them would have survived. They also ran over the bodies when they left to make sure they were dead. The brothers also smiled and heckled the victims family's at the trial. They are human debris!!

[@icivmusic]

Born and raised in Wichita. This case along with BTK have haunted us for decades. All 3 men are housed at El Dorado Prison about 35 minutes away from Wichita.

[@Dank_Engine]

Never heard something so horrible. I just want to cry. I’m sorry for the victims and everyone else they hurt.

[@glass.hammer]

I love this change of pace. As much as I’m absolutely horrified by diving and caving stories, I like the variety. You’re quite good at telling these stories.

[@AwokenEntertainment]

will never understand what goes on in somebody's head to make them want to terrorize their town like this..

[@Loralanthalas]

Anger. And lack of ability to figure your way out of a wet paper sack. I mean, only 50% of violent crimes are solved and over 8% on Death Row have already been retried and released as innocent. So the chances of ACTUALLY getting caught and arrested are pretty low. Like ... 42% with guilty + random.

[@tonyborelli.]

it wasnt their town

[@justsayin1991]

@@tonyborelli.such an unnecessary comment. I think we all get that this person was just trying to say they don’t understand why someone would want to terrorize others like this. Who cares if it was their town or not? Doesn’t really make a difference.

[@tonyborelli.]

@@justsayin1991 it makes all the diff. u must be a republican!

[@thereseemstobeenanerror1219]

​@@justsayin1991 Actually I think it does make a difference. It allows them to distance themselves from their crimes better, mentally anyway. The brain of a criminal is a strange one. It's always looking to try and justify, It's behavior no matter how odd it is.

[@joecam21]

The crimes happened in December of 2000. When the brothers were sentenced to death in 2002, they were both in their 20s. With the Supreme Court's decision, Jonathan, now 42, and Reginald, now 45, move a step closer to having that sentence fulfilled.

[@OmegaZyion]

It's crazy to think that they can tie up our legal system for over 20 years with appeals despite the overwhelming amount of evidence against them. Meanwhile hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars are wasted keeping them on death row and paying for their appeals.

[@Guesan]

Freed from slavery and back into slavery, LMAO. Some people deserve to be slaves for the rest of their lives.

[@Mark_nobody3]

I was 8 years old when this happened, didn’t know that this crime happened until now

[@OhPhuckYou]

I'd almost prefer them to be in prison. I've heard from creditable sources that they're generally always in protective custody as any time they're put in general population the other prisoners beat them to an inch of death.

[@SusanHL]

​. Maybe just put them in general population, and let the prisoners take care of the rest. Rapists are the lowest of the low in prison, as I understand it.

[@Snapper314]

COMPLIANCE with tyrants, thugs, criminals, or anyone who obviously wishes you harm NEVER ENDS WELL! Learn to FIGHT for what you treasure or value! And NEVER let them take you to a secondary location!

[@robinmcinarnay7827]

Yeah I’m going out like the 2nd story. It’s ingrained into my brain to never comply and die trying to escape.

[@Lelldorin84]

This is why personal firearms exist

[@JarinCOD]

The first guy survived and second woman didn't.....

[@TeaCup1940]

@@JarinCODUsually criminals start out with smaller crimes or trying to find out how far they are willing to go. So compliance in one instance could save your life and in a another, could be the end of it. You never know the true intentions of the criminal. There also was once a girl that was able to convince his kidnapper that had all the intention to murder her, to let her live and to give her a bit of freedom and she was able to signal to a waitress I think that she needed help. She got out alive. She was of course an exception, but sometimes a person is able to talk his way out of such a terrible ordeal. Other times it sadly doesn't work out. I also think if Jonathan acted alone, he may not have murdered them.

[@JarinCOD]

@@TeaCup1940 1. Run 2. Fight. 3. Talking or hoping for the best is probably not a good idea, but what can you do facing a gun...

[@DarknetDude]

I think human greed, human stupidity and human sadism are things that have no bounds.

[@dolorous8333]

This breaks my heart that I can’t even give this story a thumbs up on the app. You’ve done a tremendous job with this video. I’m so glad to hear they received the death penalty.

[@herronsmith]

Thank you for covering this underreported mass execution. I lived in Wichita at the time and was working when victim came into hospital. The Carr Bros and BTK leave stains on an otherwise lovely little city.

[@BornIn1500]

It's underreported because it was 2 black guys that killed 5 white people and wounded another. They'll never cover hate crimes if it's against white people. If it was the other way around, it would be headline news for weeks and everyone would be aware.

[@jonjacobjingleheimerschmid3798]

I live 60 minutes north.... It's not that lovely....

[@camj4253]

It’s definitely not lovely.

[@Mohobofo]

Lol

[@TwiggyKeely]

​@jonjacobjingleheimerschmid3798 okay an hour north of ICT, so you live in methville then, your town might be trash but Wichita isn't.

[@christiec4446]

I remember when this happened. I was 18. I was scared. I lived in a small town an hour east of Wichita and this frightened me. I have lived in Wichita since and it's been 22 years since this happened but it's still a sad and sickening story.

[@rosiehawtrey]

Self defence and speed sensitive central locking are your friends.

[@Blox117]

avoid 🧔🏿‍♂ ppl

[@Randomusername822]

​@Blox117 I would call this comment racist but if a black person said the same thing about white people it wouldnt be called racist so... 🤷‍♂️

[@Deviczek]

Better yet avoid everyone.

[@tomthetinker1024]

Yeah. I’m originally from Andover. The soccer statement was right on 96. I was just a kid when it happened but you always heard about the Massacre being told like a ghost story or an urban legend. It was almost unreal.

[@michellecarver7279]

Lord, the parents of these boys completely failed them, then other family members aided in what would become a life of criminality. I know it doesn't justify what these brothers did though. Everyone is responsible for their own actions at the end of the day. These guys became savage animals.

[@danielbaker3979]

Thank you for taking the time to thoroughly investigate each crime I must say your channel is very entertaining and you should have no problem gaining millions of followers just give it time and it will all come together

[@jasonchampagne1910]

I just wanna say man, you are doing an amazing job with these videos. I went and watched every single one you had in a week and now find myself eagerly waiting for the next ones to come out, I love your content and please I beg you keep up the amazing work you’re doing

[@blerst7066]

This is more horrifying than most crime novels.

[@Whatever8197V]

Another great edition to the scary mysteries tales ..thank you very sad but maddening too ...geez 😔

[@sallyh.6362]

You do a good job. You find stories not already told 20 times and tell them in detail, and without putting on makeup at the same time, or or using a robot voice. 😊

[@MicovskiMC]

Haha those true crime / make up channels are so cringe.

[@FHBStudio]

To the "It was because of their upbringing!" in the comments, so what you're saying is the people doing the upbringing should also be held responsible? Well a-men to that! Let that be an incentive to people becoming parents to raise their kids right.

[@howardbaxter2514]

I strongly disagree. Such a legal mindset is incredibly authoritarian. Generational crimes is something that dictatorships like North Korea and China do.

[@FHBStudio]

@@howardbaxter2514 It was in regard to the people suggesting that because of their upbringing they should've been held less accountable, which is equally terrible. The point was to show that the same argument can easily be made in reverse. It's only applicable to cases where there is an actual responsibility such as where parents are responsible for damages done by their kids or the mentally impaired.

[@Ooh_PieceOfCandy]

I was raised by parents that divorced and happened to remarry extremely abusive stepparents. Then my mother became addicted to opiates and forced me to drive into town each day to meet all of her sketchy dealers for her. I was robbed at gunpoint three times but she didn't care. If I didn't do what she wanted she threatened to kick me out and at age 16 I had no where else to go. Because of my shitty upbringing I've realized that I NEVER want to be the reason that someone suffers. There is just no excuse for perpetuating the cycle of violence. No matter what, these "men" knew the difference between right and wrong and that's all that matters. And I wholeheartedly agree that parents whose children turn out this way should be held responsible in some way. Enough is enough. CPS is overwhelmed and failing in every state. Time to crack down on the parents.

[@justsayin1991]

I haven’t read one single comment where anyone said that they shouldn’t be held responsible because they had a horrible upbringing . . . Literally not one. So maybe stop making up shit so that you have something edgy to say in your comment? Amen to that!

[@FHBStudio]

@@justsayin1991 Try watching the video carefully. Also, nothing wrong with preempting the few that would make this argument. I certainly do/read it often enough to post it ahead of time. Plus your remark makes you sound like you think the parents have no responsibility for how their children turn out.

[@user-pf4vv7wk4x]

I knew immediately this would be about the Carr brothers once you mentioned Wichita. This happened shortly after I was born here. The Carr brothers and BTK were talked about all the time in elementary and middle school growing up here. Love your videos and attention to detail!

[@robinhaddix7875]

Never let them take you to a secondary location

[@Lucixir]

Wichita is my hometown, I'm living here now and remember this well in my 50 year existence. There is no sympathy here for these monsters and the terrible things they did to that family. You were nice about the details, it's actually more graphic than you mildly put it. I was in the court room during their trial and the only tears shed were for the victims. They received the death penalty and played that out to be overturned and now reinstated by the supreme court while they await their death sentence in El Dorado, a town East of Wichita. FYI, Wichita is the biggest city in Kansas, it's pretty developed here and none will be sad when these pieces of shit are finally put to death. They are getting off easy compared to what they did to their victims. - a Wichitan

[@lindacollins6939]

Btk

[@jacobbornowsky4013]

I’m in Newton with all my family living in Wichita and completely agree with all you said.. these guys can rot

[@asdfgoogle]

They're still alive??

[@beverlygilmore2926]

@@asdfgoogle Yes on Death Row but I’ve been told they have been wanting for nothing while locked up.

[@charleshoang566]

I live in Wichita from 1982 to 2017, while in highschool and college, I hung out with some psycho girls on the weekend, I slept with one girl I met at a bar, the next weekend I called her to go out she told me are you going to kill me I said no,hang up the phone never called her again because I knew her was crazy.

[@pnkrckmom]

I've lived in Wichita since 1986. This story was probably more terrifying than BTK.

[@tonysopranooo1]

they're equally as sick.. these 2 were just a lot dumber than the btk

[@ZMondoHype]

And these two are still alive in prison in 2024, what a disgrace

[@ericastapleton7042]

That must have been so terrifying for all victims involved. RIP to all who passed. Thank you Sean @Scary Interesting ☆

[@rosiehawtrey]

It's not "passed" - it's got violently and spitefully tortured and murdered, snuffed, whacked, topped, etc etc. Look up what happened in Ravensbruk to the SOE carbolic acid girls... Or the Catholic rat torture... Or the albigensian crusade and grow the hell up.

[@jamesdreads7828]

after seeing the notification for this vid, I realised this is quickly becoming one of my favourite channels.

[@SousChefSanji]

Born and raised in Wichita, when I first heard this story in high school I couldn’t believe it. Especially taking place in my hometown, it sounds like something you’d hear from a horror movie. Absolutely awful.

[@dco1019]

Wichita is also home to btk right? Also horrendous stuff...

[@SousChefSanji]

@@dco1019 unfortunately. The I-70 killer also struck in Wichita as well.

[@charleshoang566]

8 years ago a black woman in the Northeast part of the city near Wichita state university walked in the park in the evening was raped and burned to dead by a black man.

[@charleshoang566]

The park name is Mc Cadam on 17th street.

[@TheRealElithica]

The question that comes to mind is, in that kind of situation, would losing my life in a struggle be worth it? If you do, they don't get your money and they don't get to take you to a hiding spot to die anyway. When I hear these stories it feels like being the idiot and throwing away concern for your own life might be the only way to find an escape, paradoxically. Then again, fear will literally deprive your limbs of strength and your brain of coordination, so even if you're crafty you may not get to act.

[@nathangaspacio6128]

True but the guy at the start was let go and the second woman was shot for trying to escape, while the 5 at the end went through all of that trauma and cooperation only to be shot. Theres pretty much no right answer.

[@PremierCCGuyMMXVI]

Those two brothers were evil!!! Really angers me how two devils can get away with crimes like that for so long. Those people were sick!!! I’m not a violent person by any means and I consider myself a pacifist but I would love to show those two jerks how angry hearing about them was. Ridiculous people like that exist.

[@justinv588]

How people can be against the death penalty in cases like this is beyond me.

[@zawarudo1041]

Only "female friend" could have thought that great idea is to wake up dude that matches criminals description instead of calling police straight away

[@unrealbot3027]

We wuz no snitchas and shieeet. Am a black kweeen

[@sarah3796]

Disgusting. They were monsters.

[@smijo5949]

been binging your videos the last few days and absolutely love the scary feeling I get after watching one of your videos. I love horror stuff but a lot of horror stories aren't terrifying for me because they're just so unrealistic. But since those stories are real I get terrified at some of them. Also love the ones where nobody knows what happened for sure and everything is just speculation. love me a good mystery Keep the good work up!

[@JorqansYT]

As a Wichita resident this case will always give me goosebumps. This all happened the year before I was born too. I only ever knew about the striker field incident. So I even learned some more from this. Great video from the 316

[@GailDLW]

I was at Wichita State and lived on campus - everyone was on edge. They caught one of the brothers in the closest apartment complex to the school. Still gives me the shivers.

[@tonysopranooo1]

@@GailDLW they shoulda put them in a cell with prime BTK

[@A-Gaming-Memory]

Very Scary, Also very Interesting! Thanks for making these videos! 🥰🥰

[@BucketHeadianHagg]

Hi Scary Interesting, I really like your channel. Thank you for the interesting, educational, and entertaining documentaries. Sending love your way from Las Vegas ❤

[@angelawhite2022]

Captivating story! Excellent video. Keep ‘em coming 👏

[@notfinancial_advice]

what i do like about this story telling channel vs mr.ballen and some others is that the story begins the second i click on video.

[@lindaogle9078]

This is one of the most messed up stories I’ve heard and trust me when I say I’ve heard alot. Can’t imagine the horror these people had to go through…

[@MsSaskue360]

If you can tell someone is following you, you call the police or put your gps to the closest police department, don’t just keep driving to your destination

[@imaspoon4522]

That was so awesome! Your narration is like butter.

[@philsey6913]

Excellent video. You obviously put so much work into this! I hope it is worth your efforts to do more. I will definitely be looking forward to them if you choose to continue this type!!

[@TacoWaffle123121]

I prefer your other videos personally over true crime but I'm happy if you want to branch out more. Keep up the good work though!

[@TypewriterBlood]

I think you do a great job tackling true crime stuff that other people haven’t. Definitely used to seeing lots of the same stories rehashed but never heard of this one before! I didn’t notice the “beeping” some folks are complaining about but then again; I’m listening to the story rather than the background music. Maybe it needs to be mixed a little lower for them compared to your voiceover. I also understand the sensitivity stuff with the term “engaged” and I figure it has something to do with demonetization but I wonder if “assaulted” would be a good substitute word that doesn’t significantly lessen the impact of the attacks. Regardless, people are gonna be negative and super critical no matter what but I still love your content!! It’s so embarrassing that people feel the need to be rude and/or announce that they’re leaving. Imagine being one of 530k+ followers and thinking your one view is the end all, be all for this channel.

[@ScaryInteresting]

Comes with the territory, haha! KZbin has been cracking down on certain content recently, so I'm trying to find the right way to word those subjects. Assault might be a better way to phrase it, though.

[@skarloeythomas5172]

@@ScaryInteresting Look some people will just never say one has died, and will address it more figuratively. Any one demanding you be bluntly literal is guilty of being figurative somewhere in the speech before. The meaning is still clear and that’s what matters. As for the ambience, keep it. It’s what subconsciously earmarks your videos. I have your videos in noise cancelling headphones to drown out niggling sounds outside, and your ambient track would annoy me if it was annoyingly loud.

[@marhawkman303]

@@ScaryInteresting gotta say your descriptions were quite good.

[@heehoopeanut420]

Yeah, i literally watched a video today where they refered to SA as "doing the deed" like um, no thats fucking disgusting. someone was violated forcefully and painfully and is scarred for life, and people refer to it so casually? Disgusting. I appreciate that this channel tries to use censorship friendly words while not leaving out how truly awful these acts are.

[@jesusbeloved3953]

This was excellent, Shawn! Thanks for doing such a great job with it!

[@thisguy4287]

There should be a torture penalty, death is way too tame

[@heehoopeanut420]

amen brother.

[@HAPPYG3]

@@heehoopeanut420amen to that

[@omnirath]

And that’s why I’ll never visit the US of A….

[@Deranfan]

​@@omnirathThe US justce system already has incredibly harsh sentencing.

[@dylanmanzenberger]

Thanks bro 😎

[@ScaryInteresting]

🙏 thanks for watching and supporting the channel!!

[@Flanneryschickens]

"engaged with them" does youtube demonetize the phrase 's*xual assault'? I feel that sometimes euphemisms can detract from the seriousness of the attack, although I understand why people use them

[@michellegable3191]

👍 awesome job, never heard of this. It’s always good to get one that is new to listen to.

[@vow456]

Bruh... Like I've been in your channel awhile but this literally shook me

[@CarterPancakes]

Shocking how submissive people are. “I’m being followed. I better go home. I better roll down the window. I better wake him up to make sure he’s not a killer. Let’s go to multiple locations!” WHAT??

[@sleepysombre4307]

Ah yes victim blaming

[@MichaelDropp-v4i]

Well, “victim blaming” is almost always appropriate. In most situations clear mistakes are made by victims that delay discovery, increase their peril, decrease survival chances, expose others, avoid assistance, etc. Getting hot by a falling meteorite is a different situation from getting an arm bit off by a shark at an aquarium. Most peoples’ situations fall somewhere in between. “Victims” usually had opportunities to avoid danger altogether, lessen their harm, or escape/attract attention and thereby help.

[@JarinCOD]

@@sleepysombre4307 Ah yes. Calling out victim blaming = making it impossible for future victims to do better decisions.

[@michaelsmith8028]

He should do the Franklin expedition. It would fit this channel a lot.

[@KrazyVideoChick]

This reminds me of something my parents told me growing up and I have later heard others say it as I've aged... But basically, if someone is trying to kidnap you at gunpoint/etc, in public then MAKE ALL THE NOISE YOU CAN TO BRING ATTENTION and fight like hell, because whatever they have planned for you requires privacy and secrecy. And there is no telling what sadists acts that can behold. Do NOT go gentlte into that good night. Rage, RAGE agianst the dying of the light...... your life will depend on it.

[@cddevelopment363]

People really need to keep in mind the number 1 rule of surviving a kidnapping/hostage situation. NEVER let yourself get taken to the second location. Even if it means jumping out of a moving vehicle, or fighting with your attacker, never go to the second location.

[@11Bravo.]

Scary interesting upload = A great day! Thank you sir.🤙

[@cowherdsman]

Imagine laughing at someone you were robbing because they didn't have any money left in their account. While being so broke you gotta rob someone, typical 🤣

[@paradox7358]

As you get older, you realise monsters do exist, but they are not in fairy tales.

[@Blox117]

🧔🏿‍♂: i aint see no monsters

[@jamesglover2251]

Both scary, and interesting. This style of video fits extremely well I must say

[@floboboman]

This one made my skin crawl. The complete randomness of the events. It could literally happen to anyone.

[@Captain-Palsy]

That woman shouldn't have said anything to him I am glad they were caught.

[@ReneeZme]

Also, you forgot to mention that when those assholes went back to the house after they killed those poor people, they beat Holly's dog to death with a gold club. Her name was Nikki.

[@hergthederg7341]

it tends to happen with "those people". They have a strong victim mentality and little humanity in them, little mroe than violent animals

[@kronk9418]

Why and/or how did Janice get custody? This could have been completely avoided - such a terrible instance of the butterfly effect.

[@AidanPatko]

One of my favorite narrators on KZbin, doing true crime content? Hell yes.

[@ArthurDocumentaries]

Phenomenal video as usual!

[@MagdaleneDivine]

At the risk of insensitivity why the hell DID ANNE LEAD THEM RIGHT TO HER HOUSE IF SHE THOUGHT SHE WAS BEING FOLLOWED ON THE WAY HOME

[@OmegaZyion]

Just goes to show, if you think you're being followed drive in circles a couple of times. Either they will catch on that you know and give up, or you will know for sure and can call the cops to lead them into a trap.

[@MagdaleneDivine]

@@OmegaZyion And she did exactly that AND DROVE RIGHT TO HER HOUSE.

[@GailDLW]

I lived there at the time. A lot of people still didn't lick their front doors. It was a different time.

[@sadfrog15]

@@GailDLW i still dont lick my front doors nowdays

[@GailDLW]

@@sadfrog15 I lick them all the time now. It helps if you put a little Ranch dressing on them first.

[@EATSxBABIES]

I thought we might get a story not involving a cave disaster but then I remember that Kansas is just 1 giant cave.

[@sagebielenberg8354]

Love your channel man!! Keep it up and keep the content coming. You’ve got a great speaking/editing style. Keeps me clinged to every word of your videos

[@michaelof2000]

Notice how he said “some of the worst in this city’s history.” As someone who’s from here, Wichita has been and still is a crazy and wild place.