THE MOON almost killed us. KSP 10% science career mode. \ 21

[@stuchris]

unfortunately once you land on the mun, the contract for doing so disappears. so you really want to take the contract *before* doing the mission.

[@artemisfowl577]

This is 10% science dude, you can use visual biome indicators. Youve suffered enough 😂

[@aneeshazmaton3358]

Totally agree!

[@SpaceflightFusion]

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[@armin3749]

Get the Terrier !! Wings wont get you to the Mun and Minmus !!

[@tadghie6193]

This a thousand times, the best that wing parts would give him is control surfaces for controlling reusable craft, but replacing the upper stage with a terrier would boost the efficiency and lower the mass soooo much

[@Concavenator_corcovatus]

@@tadghie6193yeah, it would let him build “a bigger boat” without building a bigger rocket

[@benjaminbirdsey6874]

You can get biome data from high orbit, and from low orbit.

[@bazem]

9:13 You should leave a satellite in orbit with a thermometer so you can get the "Space around Kerbin" contracts

[@tadghie6193]

I think he's currently missing solar panels (behind the 90 science electrics node) so any satellites would die over a few days. Once he unlocks them, definitely a good idea to leave some science satellites in orbit of kerbin and the moons for those contracts though!

[@joshuakeunecke5431]

9:15 I am pretty sure that contracts expire if you happen to fulfill the mission parameters without taking the contract. What I do to play around this is just taking the missions to Orbit the Mun while being on a transfer or the Mission to land while being in Orbit

[@ford6]

Option c build a optical / radar satellite and put it in a polar orbit. Then as long as that satellite is active you can use the "cheat" to see the biomes.

[@csabahofecker6650]

For Mun and Minmus F12 Should be fine. They can be observed in relatíve high detail from Kerbin via telescope so scientists should have a general idea where the biomes are. For other planets there should be a probe in polar orbit.

[@TomGreen-zk8ik]

I really like that, especially the probe idea is awesome for immersion

[@Mike-gy4mh]

Spacecraft has ranging data (radar altimeter for landing) and a window, so one trip around the Mun and you should know all the biomes you fly over.

[@Mike-gy4mh]

Great call on not going for extra science. I'm just glad everyone made it home safely.

[@victor_silva6142]

Oh another career video. THANK GOD

[@americanhat3766]

Vaos: I'm Having a thought uh oh Vaos: And I'm thinking if we land *Uh Oh* We wont need to use that much D/v *_UH OH_*

[@-TALLINN]

As for the science nodes, it'd be worth getting Advanced Rocketry first so that you can collect science from the Mun in order to unlock at very least either Aviation or Flight Control.

[@Mike-gy4mh]

You will need to upgrade the Science Center to level 2 before you can collect surface samples. Science guys need a lab to check them out when the rocks get back home. Probably same thing for get a fetch a rock contract. It really should not be giving you a contract that can't be done, but the stock contract system never was that great. Some are awesome contracts, and some I just disable the whole contract class because they are hardly ever worth taking and wastes too much of my time just to read them again and again. Also if you are just using the stock contracts then do everyone a favor and up your money to ~150% or higher. Its 10% science, stock contracts, you are paying to unlock parts, and you can always fly 3 or 4 money missions, so just fly one or two missions and get a decent return. You have proven you can make money with funds at 100%. You have earned it!!!

[@davehiller1435]

@VAOS Important Question: Are Green Monoliths considered in this playthrough? Everyone answer all at once, please. You all know what they do, right?!?! Also, best of luck on your exams. And also-- your editing/content as of late is SERIOUSLY NEXT LEVEL!!! I've been subscribed/following for more than 3 years or so... you've changed, man! lol for the best!

[@Mike-gy4mh]

For tech, I would save up and get Solar Panels. That will let you send probes to get some science from the surface of minmus and use that science to get more parts for the manned space program. (also for going to Minmus you will want more than batteries to power lifesupport) I know there are oxygen candles and CO2 removal canisters you can pack, but its nice to be able to use the radio and run heaters when you want them. Otherwise flight controls is a nice compromise. Girders and rocket winglets will fly. Just like in those desert dog fights.

[@Mike-gy4mh]

Upgrade the Admin building so you can have 7 contracts instead of 2. Recommend you do this before you fly by or land on the Mun so you can save up on Kerbin orbit contracts. Once you land on the Mun you should get some good contracts to land on the Mun with tourists. But these types of contracts pay much less after the first couple. They will drop to one star and not pay much, so save up on these types of contracts before you let you astronauts do them. After landing on the Mun there usually are fewer tourist contracts to just orbit Kerbin and they pay much less. (same with saving Kerbals)

[@bazem]

You can only grab some specific kinds of Mun rocks, the big one that you go through is not one of them. It will be difficult to spot them with the parallax rocks in the mix

[@daskampffredchen]

There is an option to highlight them with the F12 Menu which also should be okay since they are absurdly difficult to see

[@j.z.2549]

0:32 oooh! I was not expecting a cinematic intro!

[@JollyRogerAerospace]

Nice. Cutting it a little close there. About what I figured on Dv. Get the winglets. You've taken our suggestions, take one you want.

[@lordzoral9997]

1rst. WHAT OF AN INCREDIBLE INTRO! 2nd. Seeing the biomes should not be cheating, the hard part is going to them. 3rd. A bit stressfull, but what an amanzing landing! (or should I say landings) 4th... Maneuvers nodes would be a good idea. Especially if probes can provide science.. Nice you finally made it whit everyone alive. Hope you get your certification for your job. Nice video, always a pleasure to follow this campaign. Excited for whats next.

[@oliversplino9239]

I do have to say I really enjoy the little cinematic pieces you put in

[@sniper_elite3853]

Very kerbal re-entry and landing, jeb approved

[@johnbarrack503]

I don't think that's cheating. Before the Kerbals had a space program they'd probably have mapped out the Mun's different biomes using telescopes so they'd have a good idea before going 👍

[@TomGreen-zk8ik]

Agreed, after all how would they relay the info with kerbal engineer if they didn’t already know the biomes

[@Kovnik-08]

HE DID IT! Congrats I loved the video and of course the scuffed landing

[@maksymkara646]

@VAOS alt+f12 for biome visualision is ok.

[@Ingo3112]

the efficient way to get back from moon to kerbin is not burning staight in the direction of kerbin, it is quite the opposite! burning from the moons back side away from kerbin . after you escaped moon your orbit will throw you straigt in to kerbins atmosphere without burning a second time or correcting .

[@Ingo3112]

yeah ok i see what you did :D i think i understand it wrong or you tell it wrong IDK :D the best way is you throw away from moon and kerbin thats what i mean ro get a good reentry orbit :D

[@Spacewalker1870]

the taking a mun stone contract is from the breaking ground, which means it probably looks similar to the scatterer rocks, and might be hard to find

[@bearnaff9387]

Visual biomes certainly make sense for the near-side of the Mun. If Kerbin is anything like Earth, astronomers have been arguing over which features are worth visiting on the near side for decades. Additionally, your multiple orbital passes presumably included some kind of camera, enabling maps of the far-side features. I think it's acceptable to stretch Kerbish scientific acuity and preparation and say that they produce a perfect biome map of the Mun. Now, I _would_ roleplay locking this ability behind performing the orbital mapping and close observation. I cannot remember if Minmus rotates on it's axis with regard to Kerbin, but if it doesn't, I would want an orbital survey before allowing visual biomes there. Duna, without a survey mission or three, is right the fuck out. Also, screw doing things in line with the meta, GO AVIATION PARTS! It's time to build a passenger rocket plane as a prelude to putting a small hotel in orbit.

[@renashabell3614]

Since you're using parallax, at some point you'll need to hit F12 to collect "Mun stone" and do the science stuff. Or you could use the ScanSat mod and set up some satellites-but knowing this series, that probably won't happen. TLDR: Go for it dude!!!!

[@AvianicPlays]

Woo!! New Vaos drop!!!

[@NATOenthusiast]

That was a close shave!! For the space cult!!

[@coffeeAddict74]

That was not the most near-run thing, but pretty close. Hopefully you can still pick up the explore the Mun missions, but I think you forgot that usually have to take the mission before you launch the craft. That’s the thing with most of those. I think you’ve done enough orbits of the Mun to reasonably argue that you’ve done a thorough visual survey of the Mun. The better question is how many biomes would you have to do in one trip to unlock another node; then would the terrier make that big of a difference?

[@leepearce6055]

Awesome intro!

[@ChuckUFarley90]

TERRIER ENGINE Because wings only work in atmospheres

[@bmobert]

EXCITEMENT!!

[@Concavenator_corcovatus]

That intro was sick as heck

[@Elim_Garak]

Beautiful work 🎭

[@judet2992]

Last time I was this early, you were still using rocket powered ground sleds.

[@draftymamchak]

Solar Nations reference spotted. That series was good, the new guys haven’t posted anything for a while.

[@judet2992]

@@draftymamchak nope, not a solar nations reference, it’s about the start of this career he’s working on now

[@draftymamchak]

@@judet2992 He had rocket powered sleds on Solar Nations, as rovers for the Mün.

[@judet2992]

@@draftymamchak I know, but I was referencing the early episodes of this

[@draftymamchak]

@@judet2992 Neat

[@exio_exio1234]

I think you should put a satellite around the mun to use the biome visualiser cause its nice ballance between not using it and have constant access to it Love your vids

[@Syntex366]

Biome indicators aren’t cheating, you can find maps online anyways right on the wiki that even list the number and names of every biome so it’s not like without it there would be extra challenge.

[@thesossinay]

AVIATION!

[@nathanbrown8680]

Planes won't get you enough Kerbin biome science for a third node I don't think. You'll have to do this stressful Mun mission again for another biome or grind tourists until you can do surface samples and then grind Kerbin surface samples. Terrier will let you do a less stressful Mun mission with biome hopping which will get you enough science for wings.

[@ANTRANLP]

loved every second

[@Jomads]

@VAOS the mun rock is a specific thing you have to find on the surface, not just a surface sample, though finding it among all the parallax rocks will be challenging, it also gives unique science

[@stekra3159]

Than you veos

[@aneeshazmaton3358]

You have singlehandedly revived my love for this game💜

[@maciej4250]

One small waddle for a Kerbal, one giant leap for the Hardcore 10% Science Career Mode

[@Chilldude4201]

I’m pretty sure you can grab the mun stone without surface samples being available yet since it’s one of the breaking ground dlc science things. It would be hard to find with all the parallax rocks everywhere but if you can find one and walk close enough to it or land on top of it you should be able to collect science from it. I’m doing a hardcore save on console edition and I used that to get some good science without having EVA samples available yet. Much love and keep up the good work❤

[@techsbyglebbagrov7470]

I feel like the F12 biome map is cheaty without a sattelite, if there is at last one sattelite in orbit it could "scan" the moon and then we could enable the biome map in F12

[@faeriexylily]

i think the numbers in the green circles represent the number of new parts in that node

[@americanhat3766]

9:10 Vaos you only get Munar landing contracts if you get them _before_ you land on the Mun. Same goes for any contract, its like if you were to start a campaign mode and not collect any of the "Gather science from Kerbal" or the "Launch your first vessel" contracts, you just wont get the notification they're complete, but you will get the money Cant do the same with any other contract agency since they're randomly generated

[@Gazpachian]

There are repeatable "plant a flag on " contracts, they will not generate if you already have a crewed craft on the surface of that body however.

[@artemisfowl577]

Youd make a lot of use of those aviation parts, theyll allow you to optimize your existing designs further, which will eventually yield the terrier engine. Love the series

[@GK34779]

I feel like the game is trying to kill you in this mission, damn. Well done! I know I wouldn't be able to save this.

[@h.a.9880]

Sheesh, this mission was right there riding on a razor-edge between glorious success and catastrohpic failure. Quite a nailbiter!

[@bobbyjeffsupremelordofcraz3532]

A couple of ideas: if future iterations of the craft are unstable in re-entry, then maybe try spin-stabilising it to keep it facing roughly retrograde. I think it's best to do whatever you want with biomes, but if you choose not to go with alt-F12, then perhaps you can reduce mass by moving all the science equipment onto the 'survey' spacecraft

[@joshuajackson472]

I watched a video of yours not too long ago about efficient mun return, but in that video you'd said the most efficient way was to land on the retrograde side of the mun and then lift off straight up. I used that strategy about an hr ago, using an almost identical lander to yours here. I got my suborbital trajectory with 51dv left, so not far off this one. It was a make or break mission for me, since after building my rocket and lander I only had 2.5k funds left. Been fun trying to kinda play along

[@dooku186]

In regards to a biome overlay being cheating, i would say its not. In real life, planners would have sheets upon sheets of clear plastic overlays depicting elevations, terrain type (biomes), and compositions. And they would double check Apollo craft orbits, burn times, and suicide burns. You don't have that advantage. I would say using a biome map is a break you deserve. HOWEVER, if you think that would be too easy, if you use the biome indicator in mechjeb data up top while in orbit to do your "biome scouting" prior to landing.

[@droppedpasta]

Wow, crazy impressive to do this all by eye, no maneuver nodes

[@randycampbell6307]

Very nice "beauty shot" at the beginning. As usual a fun and educational, (hard mode is NOT for me, I have been educated :) ) video. Thanks Visual Biomes is not only not cheating, I'd actually forgotten it existed so again, educated, thank you.

[@aidengregory6825]

Hellllll yeahhhhh

[@jeleshka1506]

You could slightly upgrade the lander to have some more dV, get like 40 science from another crater and get BOTH the terrier and the wings, build a MINMUS SSTO or something, a space station that goes to Minmus

[@NickBDesigns]

Aviation node! Aviation node! Ssto ssto ssto ssto

[@user-he3gn5bb2y]

now that you lost the high probability for mun orbit tourism, guess it's time to go for reusability with wings to save money

[@dezekpl7485]

the only thing lacking from intro are two robots escaping via pod

[@ncasey9853]

Honor mode: use f12 biome view once you have a sat in polar orbit of a body.

[@kattehus]

Aviation woo! Space planes! I'm gonna vote that you should have a satellite in polar orbit for mapping mun biomes (and then alt f12 will be ok, but not before)

[@TomGreen-zk8ik]

VAOS I’m sorry but go with the terrier, use the terrier to go to minmus with a nice big realistic ship and orbit the poles for enough science to get your wing parts unlocked. Then you have the best of both worlds

[@ez_theta_z9317]

get the terrier, run some tourist contracts, unlock maneuvers, head to minmus, pick up plane parts also another mod you might like is Keep It Straight, sets camera to be in Free by default and i believe persists your choice between scene changes/flights

[@MrBmnmtfk]

Congrats!

[@banditodorito1191]

23 MINUTES LONG WE GETTIN SPOILED TODAY

[@IsaacAllwood]

Everytime you do a cinematic it's always kinda funny to me. It's like playing a video game and having a cut scene play. Like 'oh, gotta pay attention to the story' type deal.

[@skinger9567]

that method for mapping biomes sounds cool... and kind of painful. To me I think Alt+F12 feels a little bit cheaty, but I can see why you might want to do it for the purposes of the series. Parallax's "some of the rocks have collisions, and other identical clusters don't" feature makes driving rovers on the mun particularly adventurous when you get to that point.

[@KaneSoulbreaker]

You actually picked pretty much the best location for a multi hop mun landing. That spot has 5 biomes. Highlands, East Farside Crater, Canyons, Northeast Basin, and Highland Craters. With a reasonably small burn to the east you can also pick up Lowlands, Midlands, and Midland Craters. I managed to get all 8 of those biomes on my first Mun landing in my most recent career playthrough. (Although it wasn't 10% science)

[@victor_silva6142]

I am glad VAOS keep true to his own storytellering rules. As in make pretend there's life support and living space to be considered in long missions. Makes the story more pleasant. No one like a Jool five with jeb on a tin can for 50 years... 😅

[@guard13007]

When you enable collisions, it only enables for most things. Idk why.

[@keithbambery8496]

I was on the edge of my seat watching this! Awesome - wow.

[@DeepProbe]

04:52 "If we can land close to 2 different biomes..." 1. Knowlege about biomes' location is not cheating. (As you could get this info through kerbnet from probecores - when unlock said probecores...) 2. SCANsat mod hepls. Alot. And not require F12 menu. 3. ... Your landing spot had at least 5 (!!!) biomes within area of, well, if not KSC peninsula, but not so much greater... (should target closer to canyon's entrance inside this crater) Also: - "bring Mun stone" - it's not about samples. it's about surface features. There are "crater", "large crater" and "stone" at Mun (NOT in every biome). How would you search these with scatterer enabled (and no feature detecting mod of some sort installed) - it's a mistery (and pure luck). Nevertheless, if you'd manage to find stone (VERY small one - half size of a kerbal) - your crew could collect it. - there was a listed contract "science data from the surface of the Mun" - your craft and crew was perfectly ready to do it. (literaly - need to transmit crew report/temperature readings for fast money)

[@ZoeSummers1701A]

That intro…. Wow… ❤🎉❤

[@khyron6]

Damn going to call you Dangerman. Wow, So close. Bigger Boat Ha haha that's Jaws movie. ;)

[@somethingforsenro]

I think F12 works; it's just an in-universe visual verification from orbit. Scientists would definitely be able to do it, if you have one on the craft. I say to nab advanced rocketry as your next node. Also, one reason why you might not be getting many views (other than ‘meep moop ksp is dead’) is titles. On modern KZbin, it seems like shorter titles with one keyword are usually better than longer titles with a lot of keywords…

[@1mariomaniac]

I agree, if Kerbals know what Mun biome they're in when gathering science then it's definitely something that the Kerbals could eyeball from orbit.

[@fijo6207]

If using Alt-F12 is cheating, call me Tiga Woods 😂❤🎉 SPACE CULT

[@lexagl95]

[16:40] Few day ago i have left only 2 dV after barely toch 55km periapsis. And that after 2 gravity asists. And at Minmus hight apoapsis))

[@joeledger5585]

Good run!

[@ET_gamer13yt]

that intro reminds me of alien with the big spaceship

[@heylooka]

Aviation would be useful so that your Orion can rescue kerbals bc (atleast in my career mode) you can transfer between crew cabins and the Mk1 plane cockpit, but not through the mk1 capsule and crew cabins. Though it did look like you did a transfer between the capsule and the cabins on the moon so it might just be for my game idk. BTW if anyone knows the setting that allows you to transfer like that, please tell me.

[@niakitten2937]

lmfao Peanut reference

[@exio_exio1234]

10/10 would invest money into your space company

[@UnoReversecard-ys8vl]

14:21, at super low thrust you’re losing a lot of delta v to gravity losses. If you just did one quick burn at full thrust it would be much cheaper

[@richjageman3976]

I say go for it and see the biomes!

[@friedec3622]

Terrier engine would allow your Mun Lander have extra delta-v without adding more fuel.

[@jackturner8472]

you should build a satellite and use kerbnet to map out the moons biomes, not cheaty at all that way. Also, go to Minmus.

[@Iroquois_Pliskin]

If you have a scientist on board I dont think visible biomes is cheating

[@BookwormFUT]

Dude, this mission gave me anxiety, wtf 😅

[@garyblu7150]

❤❤

[@methusmit5015]

well the real question is, do you prefer gamble your save on some spicy mission on the mun or repetitive kerbin farming for peanuts ? XD

[@marcusdire8057]

8:30 You okay, Vaos? 👌 Are you sure!? 🤔

[@icantcomeupwithagoodusername]

Personally, I'd prefer it if you put a satellite in polar orbit of the mun before activating biome overlay

[@spacechild7452]

Id say go for aviation

[@brandonfigueroa7399]

and the oscar for best cinematography goes to..... Vaos?