The Most Bizarre AI

[@exoticspoon6117]

He was predicting the terrastalize

[@gibran6190]

Based move

[@drewba7741]

You would think he'd use Conversion in that sense.

[@Bogan360dude]

My man was predicting 7 generations ahead

[@TheEvilWithinFan]

I was actually expecting Houdour to use a fire move on Magby after Gloom fainted.

[@99sonder]

I wonder if it's possible if the AI still registers Petal dance as a Normal type move from Mimic and made the damage calcs with that in mind...

[@ThermalVoid]

Maybe he just really wanted to use mimic and then the mimicked move for... scientific reasons.

[@9k49]

“My goals are beyond your understanding” ^ Roberto (Pokémon Stadium 2)

[@mattb6522]

Porygon just _really_ wanted to learn Petal Dance.

[@UltimaKeyMaster]

I...just realized the music is the cave song in Gen 2...and I've had this game for decades.

[@johnmartinez7440]

What, like Dark Cave? Are you sure?

[@The_Mister_E]

@@johnmartinez7440 Yeah. It's in a different cadence and the second and third parts are original, but the first section is the cave music.

[@anlev11]

Omg it really is

[@ShadowtheYouTuber523]

Yes, the song for Union Cave and Mt. Mortar. Dark Cave and Ice Path have a different, much better track.

[@Duskool]

Isn't the Red fight theme a remix of Mt. Moon?

[@Damiez]

Roberto, I congratulate you for being the weirdest AI out there

[@BL-9065]

Roberto sneaked out of the lab for this battle. No wonder he kept choosing weird moves for his Pokémon; he was too guilty to fight legit

[@Weareonenation303]

AI: Let's troll Wester by always using Mirror Coat on a physical attacker and then Destiny Bonding when about to die. Also AI: Copy Petal Dance and use it on a Poke that quad resists grass.

[@oreo8118]

He was probably trying to copy the "Acid" but couldn't because it's slower. Still how can it not have attacking moves?? lol Maybe he had Tackle, but that still would have been better than Petal Dance.

[@AztecCroc]

@@oreo8118 Wobbuffet only learns Counter, Mirror Coat, Safeguard, and Destiny Bond via level up and Mimic via event in gen 2.

[@oreo8118]

@@AztecCroc I'm obviously referring to the Porygon in my comment, not the Wobbuffet

[@31redorange08]

It resists double. It can't resist quad.

[@PlusmaGun]

I'm guessing that *poryGON* had the following moves: *Double Team* *Mimic* *Rage* / *Bide* / *Psywave* *Zap Cannon* *Bright Powder* must have been its held item, which might explain what *Scientist Roberto* was going for: the evasiveness boosts might have also boosted his ego enough to experiment with *Petal Dance* as it eats two to three turns at the the cost of a single PP, alongside the confusion conclusion being added. And even then, Rage in its first turn (20 BP x 0.5 from STAB, because poryGON = 30 BP) does more damage to *GLOom* than Petal Dance (75 BP / resistance of 4 = 18,75 BP without STAB) so this still mangles my mind.

[@IschmarVI]

in that case, it would have used zap cannon. Its probably double team, flash and mimic (that trainers' theme is evasion and accuracy). But I have no idea what the fourth move was ... maybe sharpen? Could also be bide over either sharpen or flash I guess.

[@CavalloDiSpade]

btw What's up with the weird capitalization. I just noticed it.

[@iss2075]

That moveset would have been impossible on Porygon. They're 100% guaranteed to always have one Normal-type move stronger than 60 base power, so Porygon should always have one of Swift, Take Down, Headbutt, Double-Edge, Hyper Beam, etc.

[@Clemehl]

It is impossible to have such moveset. The algorithm dictates: *First move:* Strong STAB move. Here it is Swift or Tri-Attack (assuming it is Round 1). On Round 2: Add Double-Edge, Hyper Beam or Take Down. *Second move:* Strong non-STAB move. Here it is Blizzard, Icy Wind, Iron Tail, Psybeam, Psychic or Thunder (assuming it is Round 1). On Round 2: Add Ice Beam and Thunderbolt. *Third move:* Signature move. This trainer focus on Accuracy/Evasion. It picked Double Team. Without signature: a Strong Status (to which Double Team is part of). *Forth move:* - 50% chance: Weak non-STAB move. A Physical move if Attack > Sp. Atk, or Special move if the opposite. - 50% chance: A weak Status move. It picked Mimic. Rage cannot be picked because it is one of the few moves that are removed from the selection pool _(with move such a Dream Eater, Hidden power, Nightmare, Rest, Return, Sleep Talk, Snore or Teleport)._ Bide, Psywave and Zap Cannon cannot be picked because it is in the "Weak Attack" pool. The attacking moves sorted in Strong / Weak are dubious. Icy Wind counts both as Strong and Weak (appears in both lists). The status moves are even weirder. Leech Seed and Lovely Kiss are inside the "Weak" list, while Cotton Spore and Sweet Scent are inside the "Strong" list. I don't know much about the AI in Stadium. Perhaps in Round 1, the Pokémon uses moves at random? But are made more potent in Round 2?

[@sixtybuzzer8373]

The opponent must be like: "I'm 4 parallel universes ahead of you"

[@BenFM]

Where’s dorte at

[@HEADRUSH444]

Werster was in an awfully good mood somehow. Good for him!

[@chackbro1]

10 billion IQ poryGON

[@GusterTails]

You want to hear something more bizarre? A while back, I was battling against Roberto in Master Ball Challenge Cup Round 2. He used Gengar, but the bizarre thing was that his Gengar only had Normal Type Moves. It had mean look, mega punch, double team & bide. It was so weird & funny at the same time.

[@Weareonenation303]

Pokemon Stadium and Battle Tower mons can have some random move sets. My favorite is Solarbeam Slaking from Pokemon Colosseum.

[@tylerd1297]

Dang it if you're gonna do GoofGar (physical gengar) ya gotta have DynamicPunch or at least STAB

[@The_Mister_E]

Gengar can learn Bide?!

[@Rafael_Oiticica]

That's interesting! There should be something on that AI programming.

[@cameroncurtis7261]

@@The_Mister_E Yeah a lot of gen 2 movepools didn't survive through to later gens

[@MazterP28]

Mimic porygon secret meta in gen 2

[@hoodedman6579]

Mimic used to be great in single player Gen 1 specifically, where you could copy whichever move you wanted... I think that's the only time it's ever been useful.

[@hakujo-w3h]

よく9時間もやっててこんな叫べる元気があるな

[@The_Noctu]

And the fact that it was Roberto of all opponents

[@anon3631]

When you play so much the AI gains self-awareness

[@drewba7741]

I still think the time GSC became daytime for no reason was weirder.

[@TheXBoy5]

i understand that porygon, if you mirror move and survive you HAVE to use it, no matter what. also his angry look when attacking is super cute.

[@horsejohnson7499]

Maybe it still thinks it's a normal type move, who knows with Stadium 2.

[@Xpwnxage]

I love Stadium runs

[@skateboardinpjdj]

Mimic Petal Dance Porygon! This is too hilarious!

[@The_Mister_E]

I just don't know how he's done it so long without going absolutely mad or getting bored to tears. Werster is just... built different.

[@Clemehl]

The Pokémon' moves are not completely random. There is an algorithm. I made a short comprehensive guide from what I learnt. First, depending if it is Round 1 or Round 2, the moves picked differ - *Round 1:* Only Level up moves, and TM/HM from Gold and Silver are picked. - *Round 2* _(hard):_ Egg moves, Crystal moveset (move tutor and level-up) and RBY moveset (level up, TM/HM) are added. Then it follow this algorithm (I will pick Porygon as example): *First move:* Pick a "Good" STAB move. _For Porygon (Round 1):_ Tri Attack (Lv. 36) or Swift (TM39). _If Round 2:_ Add Double-Edge (RBY TM10), Hyper Beam (TM15) or Take Down (RBY TM09). _If none found, search for "Bad" STAB, then "Good" non-STAB, then "Bad" non-STAB._ *Second move:* _- If dual-typed:_ Pick a "Bad" attacking STAB move, from a different type than the first move. _- If not: Pick a "Good" a non-STAB attacking move._ _For Porygon (Round 1):_ Blizzard (TM14), Icy Wind (TM16), Iron Tail (TM23), Psy Beam (Lv.12), Psychic (TM29) or Thunder (TM25). _If Round 2:_ Add Ice Beam (Move Tutor) and Thunderbolt (Move Tutor) *Third move:* _- If the opposing trainer has signature move:_ Pick one of them. Here, Roberto is about Evasion/Accuracy moves. Double Team was picked for Porygon. _- If no signature:_ Pick a "Good" status move. *Forth move:* _- 50% of times:_ Pick a "Bad" attacking move from different type, but suiting either the best stats between Attack or Special Attack. _- 50% of times:_ Pick a "Bad" Status move. Here: Mimic was picked for Porygon. The game also tries to increase the odd of "combo". If Move 1, 2 or 3 is something like Petal Dance, Dynamic Punch or Swagger, then the game would add multiples copy of a combo move like Safeguard (for confusion), Mind Reader (for accuracy) or Psych Up (to copy the Attack boost). It can remove an attacking move (for example: Gloom could have Safeguard instead of Acid). Many weak, useless, random or hard-to-use move are removed from the pool selection such as Dream Eater, Hidden power, Nightmare, Rage, Rest, Return, Sleep Talk, Snore or Teleport. I don't know much about the AI in Pokémon Stadium 2. Maybe they pick moves at random on Round 1, then play more strategically on Round 2? In any case, Porygon should have at least Swift as Good STAB move (counted both for Good & Bad move). That is why this outcome is so surprising. It works that way for almost every Pokémon (except Wobbuffet and Ditto). Here, let's see Werster selection: *Magby:* Fire Blast (Good STAB), Psychic (Good non-STAB), Attract (Good Status) and Dynamic Punch (Bad Physical) *Cubone:* Earthquake ( Good STAB), Mega Punch (Good/Bad non-STAB), Substitute (Good Status), Focus Energy (Bad Status) *Gloom:* Petal Dance (Good STAB), Acid (Bad STAB), Swagger (Good Status) and Protect (Bad Status). *Pikachu:* Thunder Punch (Good STAB), Submission (Good/Bad non-STAB), Double Team (Good Status), Mimic (Bad Status) *Azumarill:* Surf (Good STAB), Icy Wind (Good/Bad non-STAB), Toxic (Good Status) and Future Sight (Bad Special). *Yanma:* Wing Attack (Bad STAB, because no Good STAB available), Headbutt (Good non-STAB, as Leech Life is removed from the pool), Swagger (Good Status) and Solar Beam (Good/Bad Special) Wobbufet is forced to have Counter, Mirror Coat, Safeguard and Destiny Bond. For Houndoor, its moveset was probably Crunch, Ember, Double Team and either Solar Beam, Protect (Detect) or, if in Round 2, Spite.

[@TheStickCollector]

I wonder what the thinking process for making the ai?

[@ilikevideogames4331]

"lol, lmao"

[@IschmarVI]

stadium AI isn't actually that bad. Its ... really weird, but not that bad. Roberto, on the other hand ... is Roberto

[@devinp.2934]

It wouldn't be a Werster video if the AI wasn't acting Bizarre haha. Does anyone know how/why Gloom & Porygon got confused around 6:19?

[@Moakmeister]

Petal Dance confuses the user.

[@devinp.2934]

@@Moakmeister Ahh I see. Thank you!

[@kwakba]

They too were wondering what the hell Roberto was doing

[@DCDJ789789]

I've never heard you sound more like John Oliver than when porygon mimicked petal dance

[@FAI_CW]

I thought we established that you don't question Pokemon Stadium...ever.

[@shytendeakatamanoir9740]

I clicked on the video and it was indicated to be 10:03, but now it's 9:08? What.

[@robopiplup5193]

That Porygon looks so pleased with itself lmao

[@yommmrr]

Seeing that makes me think the ai is just totally random. Like how is that a conclusion it can come to. Maybe if you had a pokemon on the bench with a 4x weakness to grass, but no it was 0.5% effective on magby

[@TheSalamanderMenace4]

Worse than Dragonite using agility on weedles in Gen 1?

[@The_Mister_E]

At least that's in the realm of making sense since moves used to be chosen by type before category. This is just plain dumb. Not just because it had Mimic of all moves, but because the AI must have had no other attacking moves. That or it somehow saw the mimicked move as Normal still.

[@TheSalamanderMenace4]

@@The_Mister_E But it's a non attacking move! Petal Dance at least does scratch damage lol

[@solidzack]

To me it seems like the AI was min-maxing the choices and always picked the min-choice because it's difficulty was set to weak

[@abarette_]

he settin up agiliwrap and you're making fun of it smh

[@TheSalamanderMenace4]

@@abarette_ 😆🤣

[@SHAMSHAM1090]

Put that in your notes that if a Pokémon does mimic, it will use it and then prefer to use the move. It’s mimicking.

[@TheUltimateRare]

it's almost as if the first confusion of wobbu hit the trainer as well and now he made stupid choices.

[@MageSkeleton]

that sucks, when the CPU uses Double team you lose.

[@sagacious03]

I really wanna know what moveset that Porygon was running. Maybe it's a quirk of Roberto's AI or the AI in general? Anyway, great video! Thanks for uploading!

[@EdwardoFE]

clearly he was predicting the magby switch-in but also that your magby would Metronome into Conversion somehow.

[@StoteFarus]

2023 at its finest already

[@Singleparentof20000]

Robo Duck trying to style I see u

[@RangerRobin0404]

In Gen one, I recall Focus Energy had a bug that actually *quartered* your Crit Ratio. Is that still here or is it just Werster luck??

[@shadowtyrant1272]

Yes, in RBG, the move quarters your crit rate instead of multiplying it by 4. In Stadium this was fixed. This is also Stadium 2 otherwise known as Stadium Gold and Silver in Japan where focus energy would work as intended.

[@tiagocardosom]

This is gen 2. It works as it should

[@rhcpss4]

My man there was magby and houndour in there. It’s not gen 1

[@RangerRobin0404]

@@rhcpss4 ..My point was that the glitch might have been brought over from a previous gen. The Wobbuffet, also, is not a Gen One Pokemon.

[@heavyrain5949]

@@RangerRobin0404 But it wasn't

[@BohepansTheThird]

A new year starting off on the right foot. You love to see it.

[@Epzilon12]

Congrats on 10 years!

[@ExtraCrispyColonel]

does mach punch not kill at that range on the wobbuffet?

[@EikeKusch776]

Nope

[@TechHug]

I think your cart is busted

[@mariotaz]

Imagine...a marching band.

[@shadowtyrant1272]

I don't know too much about challenge cup in Stadium 2 and even less about what early gamefreak considered game design, but is it possible that the STAB move it rolled was Snore. It is a completely garbage move but it is STAB then gotten just kinda screwed on the other 3 moves. Like Psych Up or god forbid Sleep Talk for slot 2 as it is a pure normal type. Slot 3 being either a perfered move by the AI or a good status move, something like Toxic which would again fail on a poison type. Then slot 4 picking a bad status move like Nightmare I guess just like this hypothetical Porygon set. Idk I haven't played stadium in a long time and this was thought up by using Bulbapedia to come up with a theory. And if this is wrong and could never happen please tell me because I now just want to know if this atrocity of a porygon can even be brought into existence by Stadium 2.

[@Werster]

Snore is not a possible move in Challenge Cup period. The complete move banlist is: Absorb, Bind, Bubble, Constrict, Dream Eater, Fire Spin, Fissure, Frustration, Guillotine, Hidden Power, Horn Drill, Leech Life, Lick, Milk Drink, Moonlight, Morning Sun, Nightmare, Poison Sting, Rage, Rapid Spin, Recover, Rest, Return, Rock Smash, Sketch, Sleep Talk, Smog, Snore, Softboiled, SonicBoom, Splash, Struggle, Synthesis, Teleport, Whirlpool, and Wrap.

[@Weareonenation303]

@@Werster Rather odd list, Leech Life is not on any Poke but Giga Drain is?

[@The_Mister_E]

So no weak or dumb moves. Except for Metronome, apparently that move isn't dumb enough. Also if your opponent has Spikes they're not going away.

[@iss2075]

​@@Weareonenation303 Leech Life is too weak. If they allowed Leech Life then a lot of Pokemon would be FORCED to have an almost useless move on their moveset every time. Any dual Bug-type that doesn't learn Fury Cutter so I think Venomoth and Yanma maybe would have to have it 100% of the time, that would really suck. And Parasect I guess would have it half the time too (it's already forced to always have Fury Cutter I believe). Giga Drain is a good move all things considered, it's not a complete waste most of the time like Leech Life. I've actually found in the ROM where the Challenge Cup move categories are all listed, so I can put Leech Life in the "strong move" category if I want, but I actually pretty much agree with their ban list tbh. Although I do think maybe they could have put Bind, Wrap, Whirlpool, Fire Spin into the "bad non-attacking move" category. And Clamp as well. That would mean they wouldn't waste an attacking move slot, but they have interesting effects with trapping plus recurring extra damage each turn, better than a lot of other non-attacking moves.

[@jasonjellie9342]

I’m guessing u can’t mirror coat a Pokémon that’s in Substitute even if u attacked. Interesting

[@MelodiusRL]

Mirror Coat only works on special moves. Prior to Gen 4, all moves of a type are either physical or special depending on the type. Earthquake (ground) is a physical attack and is unaffected by Mirror Coat. The Wobuffet should’ve used Counter and just didn’t because its move selection is completely random.

[@jasonjellie9342]

@@MelodiusRL ah I wasn’t aware mirror coat works only on special moves. That makes sense. But that ai was drunk af

[@maridiancrest243]

Maybe it only had water gun which wouldnt be effective against gloom?

[@Raylightsen]

AI is a troll

[@shnoogums1]

top class commentary

[@ronlivingstone1634]

Annoying scientist trolled the hell of you you, huh?

[@TheXBoy5]

the repetitive music is so funny

[@faustrocket565]

He almost sounds like pimpnite

[@SamuraiSam]

Weirdest AI I've ever seen in this game was the AI switching TO a Gloom against my Abra, to be OHKO'd by Psychic. I caught it on camera, too. This takes the cake, though.

[@DragonSword227]

This game finally decided to give you a break I guess. Lol

[@ATthemusician]

🍌

[@drinkinbuddy8264]

This is delicious content

[@xisktrl]

?!

[@barnabasgordon1199]

Lucky it was gen 2 wobbuffet ngl 😂