The most BROKEN low in the game and I just can't keep my cool about it...so I rage lol

[@NikosWorld123]

Also...I get one an doned alot by alot of ppl. I'll let this one slide for me

[@lux3846]

So what if you did a one and done? Its no big deal really

[@NikosWorld123]

@lux3846 no I don't like one and dones, but I'm just saying I'll let this one go cause I always run the set, but I just couldn't this time.

[@ACloudWithoutAir]

ive said this time and time again. Lars is a character where mixups are fake and do not exist simply because of how unsafe the majority of his moves are in contrast to other characters. I get it. its monday now? Saturday i dropped from bushin to raijin in the span of 5 hours, i was just letting fall apart like the titanic after the 2 hour mark, i wasnt even focused at all anymore. yesterday sunday i just barely got it back to bushin in 4 hours after dropping once more to kishin, i was hardstuck Raijin for like 2.5 hours. Still cant reach Tekken King because of the constant abuse by characters that are almost always plus like that. No only is Lars unsafe with "mixups", hes also unsafe with his opponents mixups(for the majority) AND they have no real pressure ever put on them from their own "mistakes", and they have tons of tech traps that Lars never has! imo whats the point of having stances with strings? like, if DEN and SEN to LEN is all unsafe and can be punished with like very basic moves that everyone universally has, and also just moves with similar frame data that can be applied to the situation. then it just becomes a game of "Do I decide to finish the string and actually use the point of the stance? or do i just cancel after the first two hits and not bother committing ever, for any reason whatsoever? and then if the opponent decides to stand still for once or miraculously picks a bad move to counter me, than you run the risk of even if the 2nd step for the mixup to even land or block or just dodge it for them, or they manage to get lucky anyways and hit you. The Tekken 8 playerbase is severely delusional and full on the offense right now due to like "misinformation" and people just start making general complaints about characters without any real discussion or analysis. I just got told while I was losing my rank Satuday that Lars is high tier and I couldn't complain against Hwo, which doesnt make sense because I told them Lars is like one of the most defensive+risk>>>reward+patience oriented characters in the game and is very easily oppressed. is all about oppression and not in the sense of politics but in just how characters are designed fundamentally in tandem with the new mechanics. Lars' frame data half the time isnt even what bothers me, its his Hitboxes and Hurtboxes. the fact that King can air grab you at the peak of your Heat Smash high in the air so long as you whiff the first hit unintentionally, when your lowest foot is above his head, shows how neutered Lars is, people can also just Heat Engage on the 2nd hit too whiffed, the hitbox either reaches the entire height of the stage while Lars is at his peak, or Lars is just, given a fat hurtbox half of the screen for some reason. The game has heat engage attacks lose to ones with super armor, sometimes it doesnt tho, but it does for Lars. I think that is a big problem with the powercrush heat engage attacks, they should lose to the nonpowercrush ones that land first and faster, cuz it gives it a special animation afterwards, a transition like a grab almost. anyways im just preaching to the choir, theres like a million things wrong with Lars and a million things great with the other characters in comparison to Lars. What should determine a character's rank isnt simply their frame data and other such general information, but how the compare in MUs against the entire rest of the roster, and the way i look at it, very few characters i think are neck and neck fair with Lars, I think Kazuya maybe and thats it, but maybe just cuz Kazuya is so predictable it feels less troublesome, i like fighting Kazuya because hes just very genuine imo. Leeroy mains: Be grateful! back in T7, Leeroy could parry orbitals too! I uninstalled last night after getting Bushin one last time. I need a break. hmu when like, Jack Garland or Rock Howard gets in Tekken. Or just lemme know when Lars miraculously gets recreated to not suck and its not 10 years later after the end of all of the DLC and the lifeline of the game.

[@ACloudWithoutAir]

i also just realized, if you can react to that low. which seems impossible, then you block it, but blocking seems redundant, because odds are you just know its going to be a low, so if you know its going to be a low, why bother block low anymore? just orbital all of them, both situations expect you to orbital basically. and if you know its going to be a low, do you orbital, do you parry it, or do you block it? you got 3 options, and only one is genuinely good. and low parry is kinda trash for lars imo. and the point of those 3 options is to give variety in gameplay and player expression, like, if blocking is bad, then... why block??? ever? this logic is really weird and i dont like it. I found myself getting back up to Bushin just abusing lars' basic power crush on predicted highs and mids because Lars' hitboxes are so terrible from a distance that he loses almost in most trades that aren't clear cut. its crazy how powercrushing just stops a lot of general mashing in this game. Jin is fundamentally broken btw, crushing like a ton of his general moves stop makes him safe on his hit.

[@djw_tekken8490]

@@ACloudWithoutAir lars mid jump kick on stance is plus 5 on block

[@TwoBrothasGame]

LOL, getting put into a mix after blocking a low is crazy

[@Fizzy_faizaan]

Yoo twobrothasgame is here

[@SOULlTe]

I'm picking up leroy now for this reason now 😂

[@xsnowpirate10x]

Reasonable crash out

[@NikosWorld123]

💀💀

[@NikosWorld123]

My MAIN point is if a lows is blocked you get punished adding extra mind games to that is dumb ASF

[@Kiddo_X]

BRO, WHAT THE F*CK?! That hella cracks me up!🤣🤣🤣

[@ametozukumazu6073]

Agree but only chars that have semi safe low is Azu, Ling and they can kiss my ass, grab Leroy for guaranteed punish or SS duck if you want bigger reward, his stance doesn't have tracking mids so his only safe option is sidestep from stance or stance cancel and both is react punishable.

[@ametozukumazu6073]

+ SS duck avoids mix-ups on hit if it hit you from distance

[@NikosWorld123]

@ametozukumazu6073 That low is fuckin dumb man. I'm sorry, but you're not convincing me. Just make it WS punishable like everybody fuckin else.

[@ametozukumazu6073]

@@NikosWorld123 I don't mind that either. Knowledgeable players abuse that, others complain. There is no win for Leroy players.

[@unowr79]

I actually feel the pain, my homie also mains leroy and I get cheesed by this low so often I just started to do nothing when I block it. And he still finds reasons to complain about my lars evasion.

[@abdoulaziz91]

"Discount T-Pain" I'M SO DONE 😭😭

[@anibalmattiwos7613]

"Tekken players don't admit when their characters have bullshit" is so fkng true it hurts.... I play devil jin and i would never sit there with a straight face going "b3 in heat is a totally balanced and fair move herpdurp". Like just admit when you character has bullshit, its fine every character does it in this fkng game.

[@NikosWorld123]

@@anibalmattiwos7613 I will gladly admit to mine. Others just won't

[@Kiddo_X]

Seeing this feed with Leroy is so helpful. Yes, I'm going to look this video over. Mainly because Leroy is fast and because I remember him being banned from tournaments in Tekken 7. Thanks for the upload!

[@dianzolul]

When you get hit with a low mix but you just a chill guy fr

[@NikosWorld123]

@@dianzolul 💀😭

[@Trex-wf6ko]

Leroy main here, db3 is the best low im the game hands down

[@NikosWorld123]

@@Trex-wf6ko THANK YOU SO FUCKING MUCH!!! A PERSON WHO ADMITS TO HIS BS 💯💯💯

[@Trex-wf6ko]

@ check the Leroycord, there’s a chart with the db3 punish mix included, no need to lab it yourself.

[@shadowofthenorthstar989]

"Leroy is pretty bad tho" they say

[@NikosWorld123]

yea bullshit 💀💀

[@SnowflakeSSQ]

Bro the lowest tier in this game is A+

[@pixytorres7117]

They called him bad because they are probably Alisa mains. Anyone who has basic fundamentals can wreck havoc with Leroy, specially because he is bottom at usage so barely anyone labs him.

[@6SpeedDraven]

bro i thought i was tripping when i blocked that low and still got did crazy

[@rinoiya]

seeing this man crash out is just abnormal compared to how chill he usually is

[@NikosWorld123]

@@rinoiya Tekken 8 is the only game that can drive me THIS insane

[@jaydagoat946]

I always have problems with Leroy man😭i understand the rage bro

[@goldenaondo]

Whats funny is that Leroy is one of my pocket mains and i didnt even know about this

[@user-831]

The rage caught many times than I can count but I kept at it and got to battle ruler.

[@hikarushinosuke2770]

This part 5:58, Niko got so angry that he was speechless 💀

[@stuckwchuck]

Blocking is +10. it's also a MID that you can Orbital and win the game with Lar's asinine Oki pressure. He becomes predictable and fuzzy the parry just enough to catch the orbital? Throw. Unless i'm missing something, Jin's d2 and Ling's HYP 3 still exists btw.

[@SWORDU]

Raven has 2 safe lows with a counter if you try to press

[@jskillz2811]

He does? Which ones? I gotta apply those lol

[@Farhan-ny8wt]

@@jskillz2811 FC df3

[@amadeoclemente8421]

Yes, thank you for complaining that one of the worst characters in the game has two safe lows?? Do you want us to also talk about all the unsafe moves he has??

[@WhoaBuddyOfficial]

@@amadeoclemente8421his moves being unsafe doesn't matter much when he has the option to escape engagements whenever he wants either through teleports or parries. Coupling that w his great range, he's genuinely a solid pick. My friend is a Tekken King Raven, for reference.

[@SWORDU]

@@amadeoclemente8421 no complaints just saying that it’s not only Leroy

[@Wolfspane]

lol. I’m still new to Tekken but I think the reason why no one talks about Leroy’s low is because they see his weaknesses and it blinds him to the bs. That and people down play him.

[@stuckwchuck]

I'm trying to learn the game properly. I get the frustration but and i20 low that can barely low profiles high's in time for a CH is something I haven't found to be broken compared to some others in this game.

[@Keychaser]

This was amazing 😂 so much passion 😂😂

[@NikosWorld123]

I have a love/hate relationship with this game

[@Outofcomission]

Not gonna lie, the crash out gave NPC TikTok miles morales vibes. XD (if you get the reference you’re a real one).

[@NikosWorld123]

Leroy down players try to defend THAT. Give it your best shot

[@BrotherShaw]

We are all crashing out in T8 lol. If you cannot block it, then you must low parry it, but low parrying isn't easy either. Also, imo, "low tier" in Tekken 8 just means they aren't as broken as top tiers who get to do the same shit with less commitment 😂

[@SnowflakeSSQ]

And I thought my Db4 with Kaz was too much bullshit. Meanwhile this is the same speed and gurantees shit on CH 😂

[@bigfatcrocodile3271]

I think the only consistent option after blocking leroy db3, is grabbing, dont think he can break in hermit. I think the fastest followup is 14f, but im not too sure on the frame data.

[@michaelpacheco6549]

Nah what’s really corny is when orbital only works if he sabakis with that option, but he can back 2 out of hermit for a wall splat for half health damage 😂

[@krynji]

louder for the ones in the back because what the fuck is that

[@TwofacePL]

Leroy has 11 frame mid in that stance. I don't think there is anything to do then low perry

[@versatilelord8893]

I call bs on that 20 frames of startup. That shit looks way faster than it looks & in game in the frame tight area where Leroy excels at its unreactable in my opinion

[@unowr79]

This just made my respect for you go through the roof. Bro 😂 this shit was hilarious. Discount T-Pain! The silence after he called him low tier 🤣. Actual comedy gold.

[@Ncaa_mackfresh]

its all about the execution brother🤣

[@laserxlars8056]

Leroy is and was never low tier. people a crazy

[@yagatoriserayden5657]

Safe Low on block is a crime. Theres no point to discuss.

[@Jesse-knight]

Leroy is very dumb character nobody talks about

[@Jesse-knight]

Ps. Check out his combo damage it's crazy

[@shirotokoyami2362]

So heres my question, and I dont usually fight Leroys that use this move too much, but cant you get a guaranteed throw after blocking it or does he not automatically go into stance?

[@NikosWorld123]

@shirotokoyami2362 No, it's not technically garunteed it's just really hard to break

[@HusamCoda]

I'm not on the game rn to check but can you punish it with a grab?

[@angelcastiel7876]

That low is all leroy has man…

[@NikosWorld123]

@@angelcastiel7876 keep the low. Take away the parry. Just make it punishable like everybody else

[@claudimerro]

The other day i was playing vs a yoshi and i did a +5 on hit move followed by a 13f. The move should be 8f move according to tekken logic but nop...got flashed everytime.

[@laffayetteexe4878]

Yeah when I’m doing a parry with Yoshi and they do a move with forward momentum he lands behind them and gets punished most of the time because of his recovery 😞 or even worse there are strings that were clearly a parry but he gets jabbed or simply floated out of the air so yeah getting punished for doing yoshis 1+2 parry I know he strong but still his parry is broken because you get punished more for doing it than gaining something not a good feeling 😂😂

[@amadeoclemente8421]

Another reason to hate Leroy, I already hated him before but with this I have another reason to hate him, whether I win or lose this stupid character always brings out the worst in me

[@SP_Empower]

I mean you smoke him convincingly despite the awakening of incorrect low tiers 😅

[@Floridamangaming729]

God of destruction Leeroy and cant even break generic throws? Christ talk about carried.

[@zeemanwholaughs7583]

You gonna get off my new main as of this video bro 😂😂😂

[@escetity]

yea this low is crazy, you can orbital punish it too

[@NikosWorld123]

@@escetity yea I know the low is so crazy you can parry after it's blocked..wild

[@Kiddo_X]

If Orbital is the answer for that low attack, I'll take it. With Orbital being vulnerable to Asuka's parry, I quit using it. So this...this is good.

[@thememelords9491]

i feel like if i got the confidence to get back on tekken ranked after 6 months of nothing and my first match had that i would immediately uninstall the game again

[@ImaNeedHalf]

Been said that character is not low tier and a cornball for a long time now. Like alot of characters people think are bad definitely are not. Like Zafina, Lidia, and Raven are all good characters but because they’re not Yoshi, Drag, or King people think they’re ass.

[@XStreamCleaningLLC]

If people was truly honest people would all agree that Lars is the true low tier character on Tekken 8

[@ametozukumazu6073]

If even GoDs get knowledge checked by that why tf I got TG psycho on Bryan who did micro step Heat Smash into ground blast 70% dmg combo? I swear, ranked is purgartory designed to punish each player individually.

[@hafiskaarba5884]

Genuine question, you can predict the low and punish it with an Orbital right?

[@Bloodhound_214]

Use a throw if Lars has an uf throw it works wonders

[@NikosWorld123]

@1AdA-Greats yea, I labbed it. My point is why do I have to resort to a grab when everyone else just gets ws punished. It's just stupid

[@bigaj6901]

If they're -8 and forced into stance, would Lars' uf3 catch them even if they step/cancel after you block the low? Please tell me that beats his parry too...

[@darkwraithknight7807]

I’m telling you that Leroy’s low kick is 100% bullshit because it’s supposed to be punish. That’s why I refused to play Leroy players and I don’t care.

[@SWORDU]

it’s definitely far from the worse thing in the game. Please explain to me why devil Jin’s wr4 is -1. I feel like that’s something we need to speak on

[@EZNOOB6969]

This is GoD gameplay, 2 apes, Tekken has fallen

[@Douphipp455]

Block into uf1+2?

[@SWORDU]

To be fair niko that low is predictable because of how good it is

[@NikosWorld123]

@@SWORDU ....

[@henrynguyen4315]

Youll havw to punish him with a throw 😂😂😂

[@NikosWorld123]

@@henrynguyen4315 why tho?

[@henrynguyen4315]

@NikosWorld123 itll be unbreakable if he goes for the parry attempt and some characters have throws that lead to combos and i think the throws attempt is fast enough that itll be uninterruptable as he is -8. I know it doesnt refute your point in that this is a knowledge check low that requires some convoluted punish from each character. I think its actually hilarious that this even exist. Im surprised that this low doesnt stagger on block.

[@NikosWorld123]

@henrynguyen4315 I get what you're saying, but it's just dumb there's no reason for this move to be like this

[@ametozukumazu6073]

​@@henrynguyen4315Bro, it's not Lars, Yoshi and Victor sweeps. Can't even launch on counter hit without heat, mix is fake from distance. If it's gonna stagger they should remove the stance and give launch on CH.

[@henrynguyen4315]

​​​​​@@ametozukumazu6073 though the reward isnt as high, it doesnt refute his point in that it goes against traditional tekken in that you need a specific knowledge check to punish this on block and a guaranteed followup is nothing to sneeze at on CH, thats guaranteed unrecoverable damage. Look at lidias db3. This thing forces stance just like leroys low, does not crush highs, range is poor and on block its launch punishable and on CH she only gets a knockdown where she is minus as well. Tbh i honestly would rather not have the CH property, at least i can then apply a mixup. The only thing this move has over that low is its homing and the speed.

[@damerthegamer9837]

If there's a low I absolutely hate it's Jun's triple low I swear that low is unpunishable

[@Farhan-ny8wt]

I just low parry

[@damerthegamer9837]

@Farhan-ny8wt . . . That's how you can tell I'm a low ass rank if my dumbass forgot low parry exists

[@djw_tekken8490]

haha bruhh i just had an leroy and im happy i didnt block any of this lows XD wtf is this lmaooo

[@SupremeKuzushi]

i just low parry it.

[@NikosWorld123]

Good idea.

[@NobodydaShadow]

Heihachi has the same....

[@Raijin_Thunder_God]

😂 that low is dumb

[@SP_Empower]

couldn't you punish with throw?

[@Topgamer357]

Just low parry it on reaction bro. Hit da lab. Get gud.

[@NikosWorld123]

@@Topgamer357 ill do better next time 🫡

[@ryukiii4228]

Suddenly me hating Leroy is justified.

[@Connector7th]

i love low tech dmg

[@Eric-yp9nm]

Cant you throw punish it?

[@NikosWorld123]

@Eric-yp9nm yes. You can, but my point is you shouldn't have to do that...just block it and punish, and he still can technically break the grab

[@Donokyothelast]

Nvm you a god of destruction 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 i aint got shit to say for real

[@NikosWorld123]

@@Donokyothelast fuck the rank bro. Speak your mind

[@chishiu12]

I'm sorry but against a good Leroy....this is not an easy matchup by far. You literally have to be mindful of every jab u throw or die.😅 u literally can't do anything even orbital. U literally have to bank on grabs

[@blackdream8822]

You must grab him after his low on block. Its a little dumb to say this like that but that is his counter, of course he can break grab like everyone BUT... make sure you grab with 2+4 and 1+2 because many leroy try to trap any kick and jab with 1 after the stance. Leroy is lock by his stance so he can't move (ss) duck or hit you when you grab him, he forced to break grab and don't mash his stupid parry. grab leroy. That why many top.P say that he is low tier.

[@NikosWorld123]

@blackdream8822 when you block a low from me I get punished...period

[@y120x]

Seems reasonable to me 😂

[@DrEaMsNoEviL]

Leroy pisses me off more than anyone in this game, dude is broken

[@sighyawn6378]

low parry please i beg u. video was funny, but yeah you missing something big.

[@Kibzdabibz]

You're a one and doner? 😪

[@NikosWorld123]

@@Kibzdabibz I've been one and doned many times. I'll allow myself one

[@Kibzdabibz]

@NikosWorld123 but that leroy wasn't one of them lol

[@NikosWorld123]

@@Kibzdabibz I didn't have the mental energy to keep going. I admit it was fucked up to do but I was more frustrated with tekken than anything not the player.

[@themacca277]

Uf1+2 to punish

[@NikosWorld123]

yea I labbed it. Still broken

[@crisisjack]

NOTHING

[@Ash.Belmont]

Ngl, fix your mic

[@manniepas1769]

Lars also exhibits casino gameplay as well 😂

[@NikosWorld123]

@manniepas1769 if you block ANY of lars lows, he get punished. Period. I can't parry if you block any low...

[@KRizmaTV]

How are you G.O.D and don't know that you can just grab after blocking the low? Smh

[@NikosWorld123]

@KRizmaTV YOUR MISSING THE POINT! Why is this even a thing in the first place 🤦‍♂️ and G.O.Ds do not know everything This game has a plethora of knowledge that tournament players are still deciphering to this day

[@KRizmaTV]

@NikosWorld123 I am missing not a single point bro. It literally took me a minute to recognize that grab beats the whole mixup, which means the low is garbage, because if you parry and get grabbed the throw is basically unbreakable. This makes the low A LOT worse, since the low is also slow af and reactable, which means it's also prone to low parrys. The low is FAR from broken

[@NikosWorld123]

@KRizmaTV ok we're just not gonna agree on this... because your statement just gave me a headache. Let's just agree to disagree.

[@KRizmaTV]

@@NikosWorld123 I don't want to disrespect you, since you are a brother like me, so I will cut you some slack, but please redirect your hate towards characters who actually deserve it like Hwoarang who has a far range homing mid heat engager thats plus on block. Leroy is honest and our brother, we suffered enough in Tekken 7

[@tele4137]

More like we all suffered until you had to suffer in Tekken 7 whenever they gutted the character and rightfully so. I don't think any low should be -8 on block with CH properties, say what you want about the character but just because it's on Leroy doesn't mean it's still not broken. A broken move is a broken move, REGARDLESS OF WHOEVER ITS ON. Arguing about a character that's not even relevant to the problem is not an excuse for something likethis. Broken low on Leroy? Nerf Hwo like wtf

[@christhornton390]

Just practice and secret movie combo NIKOSXWORLD