The Most CORRUPT Man in BASEBALL History

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The Bad Baseball Fan

The Bad Baseball Fan

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@sniperjoe58
@sniperjoe58 2 ай бұрын
Get ready for your Beard Bump
@stevematthews7686
@stevematthews7686 2 ай бұрын
Saw you on BMF, and liking your content a lot
@Sysadminsith
@Sysadminsith 2 ай бұрын
That’s how I got here. Love good High quality content.
@plusorminusandtime
@plusorminusandtime 2 ай бұрын
Hahahahah.....here for the same reason.
@lewisb3100
@lewisb3100 2 ай бұрын
same
@annanm238
@annanm238 2 ай бұрын
Same here. Great job with BMF. 🩷
@Pondering_Dave
@Pondering_Dave 2 ай бұрын
Beard army………assemble.
@SpecialJay
@SpecialJay 2 ай бұрын
✊🏻
@pretendtobenormal8064
@pretendtobenormal8064 2 ай бұрын
@engineer6250
@engineer6250 2 ай бұрын
@JohnSmith-ms6hy
@JohnSmith-ms6hy 2 ай бұрын
So, saw you on beard. I don't do random subscriptions but I watched your content.. It's very well put together and educational. As a Brit, I have very little knowledge about the 1919 game, so this insight was very interesting. Consider me a fan, subscribed. Keep up the good effort!
@TheBadBaseballFan
@TheBadBaseballFan 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much, I really appreciate it!
@b.t.2796
@b.t.2796 2 ай бұрын
I visited London last April and took in my first football match, Newcastle vs. Fulham. One of my best vacations ever! The football-soccer crowd at Fulham was so friendly and enthusiastic. I can't wait to go back! Good day!
@SpecialJay
@SpecialJay 2 ай бұрын
Here from BMF. Wishing you good fortune on your channel man!
@pillwolak
@pillwolak 2 ай бұрын
Shoeless Joe Jackson should be in the HoF
@justaguyfromreddit
@justaguyfromreddit 2 ай бұрын
came from beard meets food, great video, great channel!
@TheBadBaseballFan
@TheBadBaseballFan 2 ай бұрын
Thanks man, and welcome!
@johnu1100
@johnu1100 2 ай бұрын
Gandl's crimes are paltry compared to that of Hal Chase, who was told by his Reds teammates they didn't want him on the team because he shaved outcomes. Chase was also banned for gambling.
@TheBadBaseballFan
@TheBadBaseballFan Ай бұрын
Thats actually a pretty good point
@cedricgist7614
@cedricgist7614 2 ай бұрын
Thumbnail is a good teaser - but from what I know of the history of baseball, another contemporary California first baseman deserves the title you’ve given Gandil: Hal Chase. I don’t know when I first learned of Chase’s reputation as a corrupt player. I first came across Prince Hal as a batting champion for the Reds after a stint with the Highlanders. He was supposed to be the finest of fielders. Yet, over the decades, more information came out from Bill James and other sources that Hal Chase was a gambler and suspected of trying to throw games. Christy Mathewson was among those who felt Chase was corrupt. It’s also rumored that Hal Chase had a hand in the Black Sox scandal - and eventually, Commissioner Landis banned him from the game. I had to leave this comment because I’ve been -sadly- fascinated by Chase’s story for decades. Edit: Pardon me. I thank you for this profile of Chick Gandil - you did your research. I also want to acknowledge your statement that someone even more corrupt may have played and we just don’t know about him - even someone more corrupt than Hal Chase….
@TheBadBaseballFan
@TheBadBaseballFan 2 ай бұрын
As I was doing the research I began to realize the depth of fixing in early baseball. It was extremely common! I figured the title was hyperbole, but given that Chick was a central figure in the greatest fixing scandal ever, it's not too far of a stretch! Thank you for sharing about Hal Chase, I had come across him before in reading but never dug deeper. He might actually have the moniker of "Most Corrupt" for sure. This kind of feedback is what makes content creation awesome, thanks a ton!
@tinylabrat
@tinylabrat 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the conversions to modern values to really see how lucrative Chick's mayhem was! Great video as always BBF!
@paulabbott2022
@paulabbott2022 2 ай бұрын
I'd like to introduce you to Hal Chase. The real most corrupt man in baseball. Some say (probably slight exaggeration) that Chase played in more fixed games than honest. Some say he was the real cause of the 1919 Fix because Gandil and his cronies seen Prince Hal get away with it, year after year.
@TheBadBaseballFan
@TheBadBaseballFan 2 ай бұрын
You're actually the third person to comment in regards to Chase! I came across his name while researching but didn't dig deeper, and too bad. The biggest difference between men like Chase and Gandil is it seems Chase relished in the fix. It's fair to say that Gandil was a product of his situation, but Chase seemed to seek out fixes.
@captaincarl8230
@captaincarl8230 2 ай бұрын
@@TheBadBaseballFan I heard that whenever Hal Chase trotted out to his position, which was 1st base, some of the fans would yell out "What's the odds?" or something like that.
@paulabbott2022
@paulabbott2022 2 ай бұрын
@@TheBadBaseballFan Some sources said it was Chase that introduced Gandil to Abe Attell and Arnold Rothstein, maybe that he put the idea in Gandil's head. He told teammate Rube Benton that he won $40,000 on the fix. Loved the video btw. I've been obsessed with Black Sox all my life
@alzo7891
@alzo7891 2 ай бұрын
Chase was also a first baseman. It’s a more critical position than one would think- you can drop the ball or let your toe off the bag, allowing a base runner. If you can find it, check out a great book called ‘The Glory of Their Times.’
@georgesouthwick7000
@georgesouthwick7000 2 ай бұрын
I always found it ironic that it was perfectly OK for the owners of professional sports teams to bet on the games, but bot for the players.
@JayTemple
@JayTemple 2 ай бұрын
And it all seems so quaint now that there are ads for casinos and gambling websites all over the ballpark and broacasts.
@Sazer1515
@Sazer1515 4 ай бұрын
Amazing video, great content, I really like the map that was a cool way to visualize the movement! Also the transitions were clean
@TheBadBaseballFan
@TheBadBaseballFan 4 ай бұрын
Thanks! The map was the wife's idea. Also, thank goodness I switched video editing software.
@AlexPoole-pi9wk
@AlexPoole-pi9wk 2 ай бұрын
Saw your comment on Beards newest vid, here to spread the love. I never really care much about Baseball but this is great content :) you deserve way more views.
@TheBadBaseballFan
@TheBadBaseballFan 2 ай бұрын
Much appreciated!
@therealnathnath154
@therealnathnath154 2 ай бұрын
This came up on autoplay and i thought it was EmpLemon for a few seconds
@TheBadBaseballFan
@TheBadBaseballFan 2 ай бұрын
That's like the nicest thing anybody has ever said to me
@Ngcpeeper57
@Ngcpeeper57 2 ай бұрын
Heard about you from BMF but really like your channel. I’m subscribed
@The-Purple-Fox-Q
@The-Purple-Fox-Q 2 ай бұрын
Just seen you on guess where, some guy eating breakfast and I just subscribed to you. You are very entertaining.
@TheBadBaseballFan
@TheBadBaseballFan 2 ай бұрын
Much appreciated!
@Ourfrienddave
@Ourfrienddave 11 күн бұрын
Saw you on BMF, your content is great. I don’t know baseball. But here I am subbed.
@CrowTails88
@CrowTails88 2 ай бұрын
Just seen ya on Beard 🇬🇧✔️
@Metalkorpse
@Metalkorpse 2 ай бұрын
I'm here from Beards channel! Play ball! This story specifically is interesting to me because I'm watching Boardwalk Empire now and Arnold Rothstiene is an actual character in the series.
@creature1273
@creature1273 2 ай бұрын
how did "im forever blowing bubbles" catch a stray here.
@Playboy_GaryHart
@Playboy_GaryHart 2 ай бұрын
I hear that.
@TheBadBaseballFan
@TheBadBaseballFan 2 ай бұрын
So it was new and popular in 1919. The fans in Cincinnati sang the song in the crowd of an early series game, celebrating their team's success. Ring Lardner, a sports writer who suspected the fix was on, sat in the stands, heard them, and wrote this little parody. As an American who doesn't really follow football as much as I should, I had a chuckle when learning of its connection to West Ham while watching Ted Lasso.
@jdtheone
@jdtheone 2 ай бұрын
Supporting any channel the bearded one recommends I will definitely check out but the content is fascinating and very well done 👍
@cliffordnewell2445
@cliffordnewell2445 2 ай бұрын
As bad as Gandil was, the most corrupt man in baseball by far was Hal Chase.l
@TheBadBaseballFan
@TheBadBaseballFan 2 ай бұрын
You're probably not wrong.
@cliffordnewell2445
@cliffordnewell2445 2 ай бұрын
@@TheBadBaseballFan I may possibly be right.
@justbrowsing8482
@justbrowsing8482 2 ай бұрын
Another very interesting video! Thank you
@TheBadBaseballFan
@TheBadBaseballFan 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@markbrown2296
@markbrown2296 2 ай бұрын
Although we are not avid baseball fans, we do love history and found your video very informative. Thanks for sharing.
@LuckyMcLuckson
@LuckyMcLuckson 2 ай бұрын
The Beard sent me!!
@johnbords
@johnbords 2 ай бұрын
from 20 to almost 4k, Congrats to you man.
@JoshuaCapps-z5x
@JoshuaCapps-z5x 2 ай бұрын
Chick also claimed he was pressured by the mafai to throw the series because they had more money tied into it. They offered him a pay and the other players a pay out for throwing the series. Has they not, they most likely would've been killed.
@TheBadBaseballFan
@TheBadBaseballFan 2 ай бұрын
The depth of the scandal is genuinely astounding, and so many of the primary documents from the court case mysteriously disappeared. Truly a fascinating event, not just in baseball history but American history as well
@robertbraden4454
@robertbraden4454 2 ай бұрын
beard meets food brought me. I enjoyed this episode. keep it up man.
@zerocool278
@zerocool278 2 ай бұрын
Beard army guy from the Uk here just dropping in to give you some love and a sub. Good luck dude!
@TheBadBaseballFan
@TheBadBaseballFan 2 ай бұрын
Cheers and thanks a ton! 🍻
@unclerat2131
@unclerat2131 2 ай бұрын
You might have changed the title to "The Most Corrupt Player In Baseball History" because nobody comes close to the corruption of the owners.
@TurdTM
@TurdTM 2 ай бұрын
massive baseball fan and came across your channel cause of beard! great videos fun watches
@lewisb3100
@lewisb3100 2 ай бұрын
Hey Bad Baseball Fan. Came here 'cause of Beard, but I really enjoyed this video and will watch more. Nice job.
@threeknowles-tf8fs
@threeknowles-tf8fs 2 ай бұрын
The salaries were low, but not compared to the rest of MLB. In 1919, the White Sox actually had one of the highest salaries in baseball. I'm not saying that they were paid what they were worth, but compared to the rest of the league, they were doing well.
@TheBadBaseballFan
@TheBadBaseballFan Ай бұрын
I think this point is extremely important to remember when discussing the Black Sox scandal. So many people solely point their finger at Comisky when he was just one of many reasons this complex situation occurred.
@BookemDanno311
@BookemDanno311 2 ай бұрын
By the title, I thought the video would be about Charles Comiskey. Silly me.
@TheBadBaseballFan
@TheBadBaseballFan 2 ай бұрын
By proxy it kind of is! Comiskey was a piece of garbage, for sure, but was not much worse than his contemporaries. Obviously the title is hyperbole, but if it pertained to Comiskey it would be nearly as hyperbolic
@BookemDanno311
@BookemDanno311 2 ай бұрын
@@TheBadBaseballFan No doubt! After I posted it I was thinking he was probably more along the lines of "greedy scumbag" than "corrupt".
@paulabbott2022
@paulabbott2022 2 ай бұрын
All the owners were cheapskates. But the White Sox had the 3rd highest payroll in 1919. Don't believe everything you see in Eight Men Out
@JayTemple
@JayTemple 2 ай бұрын
@@paulabbott2022 I wondered how accurate that was. It seems like the "pull him before this clause kicks in" part would be easy to verify or refute, but not necessarily the "champagne is the bonus" part.
@paulabbott2022
@paulabbott2022 2 ай бұрын
@ Well, there’s the fact that performance bonuses were nearly unheard of in 1919. Especially one the doubled your salary. And the tale of Comiskey holding out Cicotte for five starts is BS. He pitched two of the last five games
@Chiefs_fan1595
@Chiefs_fan1595 2 ай бұрын
Arnold Rothstein has entered the chat
@JIGSAW941
@JIGSAW941 2 ай бұрын
Still thinkbthe scariest baseball player ever was TY Cobb
@JayTemple
@JayTemple 2 ай бұрын
especially if you accused him of being less than 100% Aryan
@zqrahll
@zqrahll 2 ай бұрын
Comiskey was the villain of that series and the fact that such an evil SOB is in the HOF makes it a joke.
@russteek9
@russteek9 2 ай бұрын
Someday someone will write a book or do a movie called "Twenty-Eight Men Out", about the Astros cheating continuously for 3 years or more. A lot more money swindled, a lot more baseball people directly involved, over a much longer time period. And no penalty.
@SonOfMiguel
@SonOfMiguel 2 ай бұрын
Here from the Beard 🎉
@oktag0n
@oktag0n 2 ай бұрын
Beard made me a fan. Good content!
@magnetoftevag1394
@magnetoftevag1394 2 ай бұрын
Oh man, this is pretty cool. And yeah, I'm here from the beard gang.
@Esme-d4q
@Esme-d4q 2 ай бұрын
Brilliant, you're quite good at this.
@TheBadBaseballFan
@TheBadBaseballFan 2 ай бұрын
Much appreciated!
@paulierklaert
@paulierklaert 2 ай бұрын
Beard Army here!
@calvinfarm
@calvinfarm 2 ай бұрын
After watching a few videos I'm starting to think maybe you're not a bad baseball fan, but possibly a fan of bad baseball (until this year, and with possible exception to 2006.) Great vid!
@restock_1731
@restock_1731 2 ай бұрын
I think that baseball history before the 20's or 30's is so interesting, this video is another great one. It's too bad that Jackson went along with this terrible choice.
@TheBadBaseballFan
@TheBadBaseballFan 2 ай бұрын
Agreed, one of the saddest choices in baseball history. He really was an all-time great.
@csnide6702
@csnide6702 2 ай бұрын
HOW can the players on Sox be blamed while the skinflint Comiskey name lives on ...?
@TheBadBaseballFan
@TheBadBaseballFan 2 ай бұрын
Not to justify Comisky at all, he sucked as a person, but the way he treated his players has been significantly overplayed throughout history. His greed was certainly a factor in this whole situation, but not the only factor. The player's greed played a role to an extent, as well as the sports gambling industry in Chicago, and of course the mafia as well.
@tanikokishimoto1604
@tanikokishimoto1604 2 ай бұрын
Here from Beard Meets Food. Not subscribing today, as i really don't care about baseball and don't want the algorithm to push pro sports into my feed - but this video was interesting and informative. And I enjoy history. An easy channel name to remember, so I'll be back.
@TheBadBaseballFan
@TheBadBaseballFan 2 ай бұрын
Hey I appreciate you tuning in and engaging!
@Misstsuddel
@Misstsuddel 2 ай бұрын
Not much of a baseball fan, but nice narrative. Keep up the good work!
@TheUltimateCamper
@TheUltimateCamper 2 ай бұрын
Beardy
@lizardking595
@lizardking595 2 ай бұрын
Beard hooked you up bro lol.
@donmaga6806
@donmaga6806 2 ай бұрын
Let's go, beard!!!! Good job, dude.
@breekeogh8873
@breekeogh8873 2 ай бұрын
I don't even like baseball but found this super interesting
@HeatherLandon227
@HeatherLandon227 2 ай бұрын
Came here from Beard Meats Food! :)
@TheRuralRider
@TheRuralRider 2 ай бұрын
saw you on BMF. Baseball Fan in the UK here! go Cards!
@steveatwater4364
@steveatwater4364 2 ай бұрын
Don't blame him. Get that money
@TheBadBaseballFan
@TheBadBaseballFan 2 ай бұрын
Facts, especially when you consider the value of their salaries with inflation. Pennies compared to modern athletes
@pretendtobenormal8064
@pretendtobenormal8064 2 ай бұрын
Beard sent me.
@robertwilloughby8050
@robertwilloughby8050 2 ай бұрын
He looks like an evil Bud Grant.😅
@TheBadBaseballFan
@TheBadBaseballFan 2 ай бұрын
🤣🤣
@LesterMoore
@LesterMoore 2 ай бұрын
Chick should've gone to Hollywood to cash in on his screen matinee idol good looks. 😄
@TheBadBaseballFan
@TheBadBaseballFan 2 ай бұрын
🤣🤣
@rjazco51
@rjazco51 2 ай бұрын
B M F …… Enjoyed this story. THANKS for Sharing….
@Mr__T__7777
@Mr__T__7777 2 ай бұрын
Here from the Beard monster.
@JakMihoff
@JakMihoff 2 ай бұрын
Beard Meats Food likes baseball now lol ...not just food lol
@tommyfu9271
@tommyfu9271 2 ай бұрын
you correctly talked about the reserve clause. but then you called his contract a free agent signing. he wasn't a free agent.
@TheBadBaseballFan
@TheBadBaseballFan 2 ай бұрын
I appreciate you pointing this out, that was a goofy thing to do, especially because the reserve clause prevented free agency.
@dermotrees9873
@dermotrees9873 2 ай бұрын
Bump
@shmurk9829
@shmurk9829 2 ай бұрын
Beard army, subscribed
@TheBadBaseballFan
@TheBadBaseballFan 2 ай бұрын
@@shmurk9829 🫡
@RickMaurer-m6y
@RickMaurer-m6y 2 ай бұрын
Beard sends his regards
@suizideking7987
@suizideking7987 2 ай бұрын
Here from the Beard
@billiestevens318
@billiestevens318 2 ай бұрын
Corrupt is overused
@MadEtheCat
@MadEtheCat 2 ай бұрын
Bumpy bumpy
@curtisealexander
@curtisealexander 2 ай бұрын
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😊😊😊
@Harper_Kit_
@Harper_Kit_ 2 ай бұрын
I like the music
@TheKodaHack
@TheKodaHack 2 ай бұрын
Here from Beard, don't like baseball but wishing you luck!
@justsubok
@justsubok 2 ай бұрын
nice video
@Chiefs_fan1595
@Chiefs_fan1595 2 ай бұрын
This video was great
@cottonpony7899
@cottonpony7899 2 ай бұрын
BEARD!!!!
@Sterling465
@Sterling465 2 ай бұрын
Bmf!
@anthonyfowler2623
@anthonyfowler2623 Ай бұрын
8 men out
@secretbradley6547
@secretbradley6547 4 ай бұрын
First!
@michaelgerhardt7130
@michaelgerhardt7130 2 ай бұрын
You need to do more research a lot of it. You don’t know why he did it????????? Smh
@TheBadBaseballFan
@TheBadBaseballFan 2 ай бұрын
@@michaelgerhardt7130 if you do enough research, sources give many potential reasons. Nobody knows exactly why he did it. That's one of the things that makes the Black Sox Scandal so fascinating, it's completely shrouded in mystery. With all do respect, I did do my research, and you didn't offer anything to counter that. Instead of shaking your head, give me the reason why? I'd appreciate a source too, it'll help me later on to make sure I cover all of my bases.
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