The most difficult Street Fighter character EVER!? Attempting Gen combos

Today we're attempting some Combo Trials with Gen!! The Super Street Fighter 4 challenges in Ultra Street Fighter IV are no joke!! This character's stance change nonsense is really difficult, wish me luck in getting these done!!
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[@MayhemEverFree]

Gen was that mid-tier character that everyone knew was secretly top-tier but nobody could ever master it...

[@juliansalamanca9989]

Xian could do it... he won an EVO with that character

[@MayhemEverFree]

@@juliansalamanca9989 Xian was the best Gen player, but I feel like even Xian couldn't play Gen in the best possible way, Gen has so many options for every situation that I can't imagine what a dynamic imput-reading AI could do with the character

[@BakMei1003]

Character difficulty factors into tiers imo Akuma is easily S tier in sfv on paper, but he's so hard to play he evens out to A+

[@soulsyphon1]

@@MayhemEverFree I dont know about that Sakonoko had him pretty much mastered

[@T3_FGC]

Definitely not top tier. Xian won Evo and then got 10-0d by Daigo in an exhibition not soon after. Xian played amazingly, but I feel like people weren't fully familiar with the matchup. Absolutely not taking away what Xian did though, he outplayed everyone that year

[@FriendlyDoctorGuy]

Gen is the character for people who really enjoy rhythm games. Everything is a goddamn pattern with this man.

[@lucasdurval3484]

I'm pretty good at rhythm games; I fucking suck at playing Gen.

[@caleb-dj1nz]

@@lucasdurval3484 me

[@brandennelson4772]

Gen is arguably my favorite SF character ever.I have a very hard time mastering him just like everybody else but if you are even close to being really good with Gen you are damn near impossible to beat!

[@aspreedacore]

@@brandennelson4772 I was a scrub that just try to fish into super x ultra lol

[@veddartha]

@@brandennelson4772 i tried to main Gen because is my fav char, but got stuck because he has no strong attack when getting up from ground.

[@CrashdummyX]

I love that this game had characters like this. Plenty of accessible characters but also some that were almost impossible to play to their full potential.

[@mightquinnable]

Remember Xian used gen cause no one knew how to play gen. He was probably the only good gen

[@mostverticalproductions4808]

He got bopped after people learned the matchup sadly. But God was he sick to watch when he played.

[@N3t0L1n]

he was THE ONLY GEN.

[@rblaze88]

Yeb put gen on the map first but idk if yall was that deep into sf4 or not

[@rblaze88]

And amiyu gen was real nice too but he wasnt able to travel to tourneys that much

[@souleaterevan5998]

@@mostverticalproductions4808 he got bopped after gen got nerfed and people learned that matchup.

[@kevingriffith6011]

Gen was always interesting to me, he always had *some* button he could to in any situation... but he's got akuma-tier health and does very little damage, so you've got to work so much harder than your opponent to win. Massive props to Xian for managing to win major events with him and almost singlehandedly re-writing his position in most people's tier charts.

[@fissilewhistle]

Akuma had 850 HP/850 stun. Gen had 900 HP/950 stun, so he wasn’t as fragile as Akuma.

[@kevingriffith6011]

@@fissilewhistle He's only 50 health off, so it's in the same neighborhood.

[@Choom89]

@@fissilewhistle he also only got that 50 stun in the very last update, before ultra Gen spent years at 900/900.

[@hitlerjusthitlerliterallyh2700]

Yeah but when his super into ultra combos could sometimes net upwards of 60 percent

[@tnt_tyrant2515]

As a Street Fighter fan i never thought it would be this entertaining watching someone do trials

[@tnt_tyrant2515]

Thanks for the like man. Im from the Caribbean, you got fans over here too bro

[@OscarJimenez-jd9tc]

Props to Dan for taking all this ass-whooping👊

[@lordbasketboi9998]

Hes used to it

[@TrophyJourney]

It's ok, he's wearing protective gear

[@TwilightFirefly_]

Learning a Normal character: Easy Learning Gen: Nightmare

[@Made2Slash]

Believe it or not, because of the 3ds version i started to play with Gen on Ps4 i got kinda decent with him but yes he is one of hardest characters to master.

[@yurushii]

He's really easy. I mastered him on ps3 and got platinum trophies for this epic game!

[@jetstreamsamsung1753]

Im shocked gen is actually hard to play. For me its ez. El fuerte is way more harder than him in my opinion

[@roostrknightmk3099]

@@jetstreamsamsung1753 C. Viper is the worst

[@respectblindfolds7411]

The gimmick with Ultra 2 is that instead of dealing damage, it deals grey life. For some reason. It really should have functioned like how it did in Alpha, where it just did damage over time.

[@Gunsmoke2220]

what's grey life?

[@respectblindfolds7411]

@@Gunsmoke2220 If you don't hit them for a bit, it just regenerates back.

[@rickpeters8204]

It also did tons of stun damage for the grey life payoff so if you managed to hit them again not only did you get the damage you also run the chance of stunning them

[@Ramsey276one]

That screws me up A LOT

[@haydenfisher1387]

@@respectblindfolds7411 Killer Instinct has that with its combo system and is especially true with Mira but only after using mercury-based special moves

[@robbobthepanda7211]

"Gen has 2 stances he's pretty hard" Lei Wulong: (laughs in 13 stances)

[@forestcampbell8962]

Hwoarang also chuckles in background. I gotta admit i enjoy playing as lei.

[@sunther8041]

Comparing Tekken to any other fighting game is unfair, it’s the hardest fighting game and every character has over 120 moves. Wack shit

[@PYR0NinjaPXG]

*laughs in Tekken Yoshimitsu main*

[@art7046]

Lol When i was watching this video i was just imagining how easy lei mains could play this gen

[@KevTheGalaxybender]

@@sunther8041 VIrtua Fighter: Hold my beer.

[@tokyo200]

Hey John, this is Nekumaru the 2nd, the Nakoruru player last night on twitch stream. I just want to say I’m really sorry that our last match got disconnected and it made me look like I raged quit. But truthfully I didn’t! My LAN cable stopped working and I lost connection to the internet. I. Its hard to believe but I truthfully did not mean to quit the match. I’m a huge fan of yours and respect you too much to do that. I feel bad that happened. Again I’m sorry and I pray you see this.

[@jmcrofts]

No worries man I could tell it was the game's fault. Keep an eye out, that match might be in a video soon

[@tokyo200]

jmcrofts thank you so much John.

[@terrancecook3357]

I remember getting positive messages after using Gen in ranked matches in vanilla. some of it I think people were glad not to have to face yet another Ken, Ryu or Sagat. that and if one was half way decent with Gen you looked impressive to the average Joe.

[@jersonmoran2239]

This was my main in SF4 back in the day. I was rank 4 with GEN on PS3. love this character 💪

[@PetterNe]

My favorite character in any Street Fighter game. God, I miss Gen. Slight correction to your commenting by the way: Gen actually has two different focus attacks - one for each stance. The Mantis one has slightly longer reach.

[@Audball_Pete]

I would be very interested in a video where he has a hand cam. That way, when he explains, he can demonstrate.

[@zekeichiwara]

7:04 I believe Gen is the teacher of Yun and Yang, but he taught Chun-li some of his moves as well.

[@obasagbenga3284]

The teacher of Yang and Yun is Master Lee not Gen

[@minorsmile0942]

You just KNOW he wanted to clap those cheeks

[@XXFinalSn1peXX]

Minorsmile09 he taught chun li when she was a child...

[@redraft5939]

@@XXFinalSn1peXX hahahahahaha

[@shadowmoses5347]

@@obasagbenga3284 no its gen he also taught Chun li father as well as her

[@TheSpike777]

I've used Gen somewhat in the 3DS version of Super Street Fighter IV. I don't know if the timing is changed in Ultra Street Fighter IV, but his "HK Gekiro" is timed like playing notes on an instrument. (It's kind of hard to describe this with words.) After the initial input for HK Dragon Punch, I'd time it like this to get the full 7 hits: 2x HK fast > slight pause > HK > slight pause > rhythmic 4x HK slightly slower than "2x HK fast". That's how I personally gotten those hits. I figured it might help if they chose to use Gen in the future.

[@Hawko1313]

my brother played this character. Can't believe the amount of depth he had. But at the time, just switching jump arcs into medium medium special was enough. but the super into ultra combo's as well as the wall jump oki was insane when it got going

[@1dayago843]

Gen'ing Over It with jmcrofts

[@optimusprimesanus825]

When jmcrofts uploads it’s a good day

[@trudewz1840]

Can't wait for Dudley 😁

[@TwilightFirefly_]

@@trudewz1840 Me too I'm a dudley main so i want to see how jm does

[@rentalsnake6542]

Yeah this dude is so relaxing to watch, which is ironic considering he only streams fighting games lol.

[@Ricksu_95]

Xian probably can do this one handed =p btw the strange thing about that ultra is that it deals gray(recoverable) damage instead of real damage

[@arthashuang5319]

Ricksu In my opinion about his ultra，Gen was designed as a chinese martial artist，as u can see his attacking move is using two fingers to stab the opponent，we call this ‘ Dian Xue’（点穴）in chinese，it doesnt make damage on surface，but it will cause crazy damage inside of the opponent‘s body，there are hundreds of fragile points on human‘s body，and the meaning of ‘Dian Xue’ is to only attack these fragile points instantly，also Dian Xue is used in real life for Massage or treatment，i hope u can understand what im talking about

[@gam3r99x]

27:28 your reaction was amazing lol

[@jbatutegaming382]

"How's this possible?" Me : **Laughs in Street Fighter Alpha 3**

[@mrcuddles2199]

Finishing those kicks at the end was soooo rewarding.

[@absolutesadlad2297]

love you JM. been following you & watching you regularly since 12k subs. going back and watching this video now is wild. its crazy to see how much you've grown in your craft & what a professional you've become. not to say you haven't always been a great entertainer, because you always have been awesome to watch, and always loved the content. but you're seriously killing it, and your hard work & grind really shows. i hope there's even bigger things to come for you in the future as a content creator and entertainer. you rule man.

[@rentalsnake6542]

Gen reminds me of Mercenary Tao. All he needs is "KILL YOU" written on the back of his robe lol.

[@MrGamingorama]

Nate Potter I think because he reminds us of Tao someone makes a Tao mod for Gen I believe.

[@rentalsnake6542]

@@MrGamingorama with a full screen dodon ray that deals 100% dmg lol

[@MrGamingorama]

@@rentalsnake6542 yeah :D

[@stompbaddess1772]

Gen does reminds me of mercenary Tao.

[@Luminousplayer]

You can literally tell that Gen would be amazing if you learned to use him, but doing so is like "nope".

[@fierysmile2929]

I picked him up for no reason other than I liked his theme song and prefer unorthodox characters. Used to beast with him in ranked, but only after labbing my ass off.

[@benhaggitt4466]

Gen is one of my best characters, along with Chun, Poison and Dhalsim. Yet I'm poor with Ryu and Ken

[@ArtofTonyPommells]

Gen was legit my fav character in this game, loved the challenge of understanding his combos, so much fun.

[@argosfe7445]

My cousin actually mained this character, it was kind of fun to have access to someone playing that character especially offline. He is just so hard to pilot; it's insane.

[@chris-matic]

Yoooooooooo! I almost jumped outta my seat! Gotta say, this is the one SF game where I just gave up on combos. It might just be me but they are asking too much with the timing..

[@antoniojohnson23252]

27:20 Top ten anime hype moments

[@yurushii]

I have mastered Gen. He is my Chinese connection character along with Feilong. Great game here!

[@derelbenkoenig]

I love these videos, because you do the trials and give little tidbits about the input tricks and the useful applications of some of the combos and how you would use them in a real match

[@StriderRyu7]

What is this..... Street Fighter 4....in 2019?!?( 10th year console anniversary) Thank you, jmcrofts!!!🤗 Also,remember:Gen’s difficulty stems from his character background,IMHO: He’s an assassin and as such,he demands precision.

[@ThePsychoguy]

I used to main gen back in the day. Awesome character.

[@vengfulhowl]

Me: THEY'RE SELLING CHOCOLATE Gen: What are they selling?

[@vovancho]

I know it's too late but can you explain that joke?

[@dush.1746]

@@vovancho kzbin.info/www/bejne/foXWo6iJobh_bbc

[@vovancho]

Big thx. I'd never think that it's SpongeBob reference

[@chelahu]

I would enjoy a camera pointed to your hands, the buttons pressed sound amazing

[@nicksamuel8324]

13:50 As soon as he said this i was like yeah famous last words, good luck

[@J2Ochi]

I use to main Gen but I never even messed with the fast hands always stayed away from that in matches that's why seeing Gen played the way the game developers intended him to be played through Xian was a massive treat back then. This is still a fun game but easily reminds me why I raged playing fighting games! 🤣😂 Good times

[@tedvandam6821]

It's 2021 and I'm upset I haven't seen this yet, thanks for all the content! Gen SFIV = Plinking and or Carpal Tunnel.

[@autumnshinespark]

I really wish the game had called them Kick Stance and Punch Stance, it wouldve been so much less confusing. I couldn't tell which was which so it was constantly checking the whole move list with Gen.

[@ziggensgames]

I once landed the aerial "sinking kick" move (crane) into mantis super into mantis ultra on a friend at a weed lounge. I stood up and screamed at the top of my lungs and everyone was looking at me like some freak lmao

[@envy7621]

I love you're videos I've learned way to much in a span of an hour

[@Zekesin88]

Landing that combo at the very end was so satisfying

[@johndewberryiii9925]

I can play him competently I never pushed it with him though just solid alpha 2 play. Gen seems way more like Yun and Yang to me he’s basically the master of their respective styles more or less. I’d say more Yang then Yun

[@hungerxhunger2548]

Man I loved your video, I could never finish that last combo. I want to try again after watching this.

[@joem3009]

More than half the vid is lvl 24 😆, damn dude, I couldn’t do it... trouble after 20. Congrats 🎉🍾

[@Righteous_Rojin]

I can do the H.DP no problem. It's a cadence to it. But good job for completing Gen's trials! Not too hard, but not at all easy imo

[@timberwolves100]

I played Gen in SFIV and actually got pretty good with him when everyone else was using Ryu/Ken/Sagat and Zangief. Never made it to to 'elite' levels but I didn't care because he was a unique fighter that required alot of patience and skill to learn.

[@neelyd1113]

It put your video in my recommended for some reason and I'm brought back this nostalgic feeling from sfIV and I popped off when you popped off at the end haha, I enjoyed watching this 😁

[@kogasoldier9379]

Honestly back in alpha 3 gen used to be one of my best characters...

[@marceloho1984]

In SFA2, Gen was a killer Fighter.

[@teddybeer6206]

In SFA3 as well

[@dannyellaboatboat]

Good job bro! I’d say if you can master Gen, you are a master of the entire game

[@teddybeer6206]

That's what I think too

[@dannyellaboatboat]

@@teddybeer6206 Yup 👍

[@danielcookson2644]

Gen has a really good jump and walk speed.

[@razgrizstrigoi1778]

Gen is really a fun character if you really invest time in learning his whole bag o' tricks...

[@WIT98xboxlive]

what a popoff at the end

[@trollshamanpwnage]

"they don't tell you what stance you have to be in" kick stance is charge moves, punch stance is circle moves and hundred hand pokes

[@stephonthomas9742]

I purchased sf4 2 days b4 it came out. I mained gen as soon as I unlocked him. He is super dope and his combos are more easy to do with a controller.

[@2000Doriyas]

What controller?

[@stephonthomas9742]

It was a regular ps3 controller at the time

[@samgalloway3012]

Ive had street fighter iv sitting on my shelf for a decade now and decided to get into it and i flat out cant even get out an ultra combo i dont understand the game.

[@longevitee]

Gen is the best because if you keep switching stances back and forth, it makes him do a little dance

[@arkazzahdnur6694]

Disadvantage: You’re forced to learn 2 movesets equal to 2 characters at the same time as Gen Advantage: You’re forcing your opponent to deal the same thing as well

[@Scrubermensch]

For the ones who like Gen playstyle I strongly recommend to look after 2 KOF chars: May Lee(2 stances, one has no guard) and Jhun(3 stances, 2 have no guard, nor jumping or running)

[@madpaladin305]

That ultra where he does the super pokey pokey (Shitenketsu) actually causes a huge amount of grey health (around 2/3 of the enemy health bar) not stun, it is a huge risk huge reward gamble where if you don't score a hit in the frame of you using it enemy will just recover health as if you did nothing but if you land a hit it utterly decimates your opponent, Xian used it in some matches and very effectively.

[@edpistemic]

Was SO nervous for you during that last Gekiro!! :)

[@romzen]

Mk into 100 hands can be short cut by plinking. Press mk an lp on the first frame and plink them into mp. Then piano or slide jab to fierce.

[@i_albanna]

Me: Gen looks really Hard! Also me realizing Ibuki 😮😦😧😨

[@i_albanna]

I had a horrible trial with Ibuki It was a real life NIGHTMARE

[@i_albanna]

Hi

[@poepertist]

I really enjoy watching this for some weird reason :-3

[@killer660]

DUUUUUDE!!! fucking yelled LET'S GOOO!!! When you finally got that last Gen combo off lol

[@teddybeer6206]

By far my favorite character in ANY Street Fighter game. Goodness gracious I miss him...

[@epheleo4128]

good job dude

[@TheAlbumsThatMadeMe]

Hands down my fave character in SF

[@drzitbag06]

for medium kick conversions you can press mk + lp simultaneously then go for additional 4 punch piano. thumb mk index lp then piano.

[@ferocius7644]

For some time i used to be #1 Gen in Xbox Live (CrapHands). I think my videos are still around.

[@Gunsmoke2220]

FUCK YH I FELT that! I feel your glee man 😂😂💯💯

[@Kat-ru4ej]

The ultimate challenge, completing Gens trial on the 3ds version

[@davide4607]

C. Viper was the most difficult character in the SFIV series. Try to consistently do her meterless super jump seismo dash cancel into ultra.

[@Melubas]

You don't have to slide the hand cancels, I find it easier to tap them, tap lp -> mp -> hp- > mp -> hp (really really fast, need to finish on hp to get the hp version). Fun character :)

[@DurkRagingSmith]

*Sees Title* C. viper - *Am I a Joke to you* 😂 they both are crazy though tbh

[@jmcrofts]

viper's were way easier

[@magsisgay]

Vipers are easier for me but mastering her is really hard with the cancels

[@rdantedragon488]

Usually how I did trial 19 on pad is I keep on tapping medium kick and the light punch at the same time to try to get the hundred hand slap to come out actually works

[@em.4774]

Old men don't fight without mastering all the skills ya know.

[@Kasugia]

27:27 made my fucking week - such a perfect reaction 😂

[@zurielsanmartin1714]

Nice job! You’re the best!

[@KillCamKev]

9:51 this already looks like so much work from my perspective 😂😂 especially since I use controller

[@cribbibalibba2383]

I know this is 3.years late so it probably falls on deaf...eyes? But Gen was one of my favorite characters and the time I spent mastering Guile and Gen combos surely contributed to my carpal tunnel but man I miss Gen.

[@Ramsey276one]

ULTIMATE SKILL GATE CHARACTER

[@Navezceru]

Seeing new street fighter 4 gameplay in 2019 is so nice

[@MIMIC8801]

That was fun watching this 😃 I completed all the trials a while ago and it’s awesome watching someone else go through this...especially Gen’s crazy ass trials lol

[@Sethysics]

Just cleared the Gen trials. Gotta say, they look easier than they appear. Still had a hard time finishing Roundhouse Gekiro.

[@sewerdork6183]

I do CL Crane then to a Mantis Super and afterwards a ultra. So much fun

[@SupitsMoses]

Man these combos were damn there impossible at times until you realize that everything has a timing about it and how to piece together parts of a whole to actually complete these combos. That being said I looked at the el fuerte dash heavy combo and walked away lol

[@Purlypurlington]

Poonkgo playing fuerte is the best

[@TraumaER]

*How does Capcom expect anyone to ever learn how to play this game? More importantly, who has time to play this game to where they know how to do all the moves?* 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@astolfostrikesback4073]

Bruh Gen is supposed to be hard

[@axelordthesmashdude9076]

The last trial in vanilla was starting with crane air double kick and then all that

[@ramoncruz2453]

I remember learning a lot of stuff from Jibbo aka Automattock, he was godlike.

[@tonymike05]

For that last Gen combo he should have used the piano tech to pull it off. Great video though

[@MayhemEverFree]

For trial 24 I was already used to doing all hits with Gekiro, for me the hard part was getting the first part right XD I actually won trial 24 as soon as I "accidentally" got the first part right, I had so many other trials with Gen that I couldn't finish, but 24 wasn't that hard for me

[@chillbro2275]

Massive CONGRATULATIONS!!!! hahaha

[@Itsakirayeah]

Best sf

[@daakrolb]

Long live SF4!!!

[@pencilkarate1713]

I forgot how awesome this game was