The Most Hated Change in Mortal Kombat History!

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[@hanitoohandsome2703]

sweet. no one commented under this yet 😭

[@feuryie]

i think a possible reason for skarlet's retconning actually has to do with the sexuality. part of her being underdressed in mk9 had to do with the idea that she was absorbing blood through her skin, so they possibly wanted to remove this idea from players who would say she's supposed to be sexual like mileena because of her powers. as for the jade stuff? they mentioned in one of the interviews that one of the writers is in love with 'shipping' and thus you get shit like the stuff with jade or the stuff with shao khan and sindel, or even kabal and sareena (which doesn't make sense cuz she was already hooked to sub-zero). and yeah, kabal being straight villain here bothered me along with his speed being natural? just a bunch of shit here in the writing on this game. and that's outside the lui kang and raiden stuff.

[@mysticalassassin6168]

I just wanted to correct you on one thing lol. When you said that the Edenians other than Sindel need weapons to use their magic, that’s not true at all. I mean yes, they mostly use their magic with their weapons but we have seen a lot of magic moves in their gameplay that they use without their weapons. Like teleporting for an example. Also when Jade glows green & purple, Kitana Teleporting and her Wind (Edenian Razors & her Intros, Outros & Fatalities) prove that, Mileena Teleports and Her Gameplay trailer Outro also proves that. And Tanya has Pryomancy, teleports as well & had some kind of Dark magic/Aura. They all have magic and can use it with & without their weapons. Most of the Edenians are Ninjas so ofc they’re gonna use their weapons. Sindel even uses her magic/Aura with her weapon.

[@thunderstudent]

Shao Kahn: I killed King Jerrod and took his realm, wife and daughter for my own! D’Vorah: This one killed King Jerrod for Shao Kahn because he ordered me to. Twindel: I killed King Jerrod in order to keep my power and privilege and replace a weak husband with a strong one. Rain: I killed King Jerrod because he was hiding my half brothers Taven and Daegon from me! The Collector: I killed King Jerrod because he owed me 5 coins. Raiden: I killed King Jerrod after consulting the Elder Gods, because they told me to. Elder Gods: We ordered Raiden to kill King Jerrod because he was a threat to the realms. Kronika: I killed King Jerrod and made everyone else think they did for the LULZ. Kitana: *WHAT THE FUCK?!?!*

[@Jesup1204]

The way I see it, the ending of MK11’s story (not counting Aftermath) revealed that there are multiple timelines. In a way Mortal Kombat’s story is like Gorundhog Day, but instead of repeating a single day, the MK universe is repeating a billion or so years over and over. As I see it, each game is set in a different iteration of the loop explaining why some characters look/sound different between installments. Why does Skarlet have different origins between MK11 and MK9? It’s because it’s a different timeline and things in the past changed the present. (Maybe the orphan Skarlet exists in the MK9 timeline, but she was never adopted by Shao Khan.) Why is Sindel a sympathetic mother in one timeline but madly in love with Shao Khan in another? It’s different timelines where a major event from Sindel’s past determines which version appears in the present. Hell maybe all the Mortal Kombat movies (both live action and animated) are canon to the games, but again set in different timelines.

[@bradypahl]

I think what really got me upset about Sindel was that iconic imagery of her hugging Kitana in the old games when she got to redeem herself seems nearly completely replicated in Mk11 Aftermath when they hug again. Even Jade is there for that moment. It felt so good as a fan of the older titles seeing Sindel hold Kitana again. Only for it to be a "Haaa gotcha moment"

[@mecko8442]

I like the " Haa gotcha moment" it shows how evil, evil can be.

[@the-point-bearer6689]

It would've been a good reversal if she ended up betraying Shao Kahn as she plays up being the bad guy as an Inverse of Tanya playing the good guy.

[@mecko8442]

@@the-point-bearer6689 Nah, people would have seen that coming a mile away from Sindel.

[@gw7911]

I think they honestly could’ve done the “haha gotcha moment” but it should’ve been she was still under the spell of Shang Tsung BUT turns out not being controlled by shao Kahn. But the ultimate power of the spell would’ve been for sindel to be absolutely loyal to Shang Tsung. And that Shang Tsung wanted sindel to be shao Kahn lover to have someone be able to kill him without getting his hands dirty. This is revealed when sindel stabs shao Kahn in the back (literally) at the end of the story.

[@Evokai6419]

@@mecko8442 Stop simping for evil Sindel.

[@bluesyrupgc4224]

I think you forgot one of the funniest things in MK11: They retconned their own retcon. Originally, Shao Kahn killed Jerrod, but then it was revealed D’Vorah killed him for Shao Kahn, then Sindel told Kitana she killed Jerrod. So did all three of them decided to bang Jerrod to death?

[@Mimi._.Haruno_]

Atleast Jarrod died a happy man??

[@Takejiro24]

@@Mimi._.Haruno_ AYO????

[@Drakorre]

Can't wait for the new show on TLC "Who killed king jerrod?"

[@Mimi._.Haruno_]

@@Takejiro24 ;)

[@thunderstudent]

Shao Kahn: I killed King Jerrod and took his realm, wife and daughter for my own! D’Vorah: This one killed King Jerrod for Shao Kahn because he ordered me to. Twindel: I killed King Jerrod in order to keep my power and privilege and replace a weak husband with a strong one. Rain: I killed King Jerrod because he was hiding my half brothers Taven and Daegon from me! The Collector: I killed King Jerrod because he owed me 5 koins. Raiden: I killed King Jerrod after consulting the Elder Gods, because they told me to. Elder Gods: We ordered Raiden to kill King Jerrod because he was a threat to the realms. Ermac: I killed myself so I could become Ermac and gain more power to kill Shao Kahn and begin my own konquest of the realms! Kronika: I killed King Jerrod and made everyone else think they did for the LULZ. Kitana: *WHAT THE FUCK?!?!*

[@godwilldovan]

Sindels retcon was totally unacceptable big slap to sindel's fans

[@meganinten0078]

Before, she was one of my favorites milfs. Now, she is one of the few waifus I actually hate. I hate retcons. I really do.

[@gorre-kten]

But kronika did mention that there have been countless timelines before meaning this is not a timeline that is connected by mkx more like a timeline that has had the same events happen

[@nabilahmed579]

@@gorre-kten yet all we had was one timeline where raiden and liu kang didn’t even fight. Where does the countless timelines start becoming different to the original continuity? All these questions are left unanswered

[@SoulReaper2367]

@@meganinten0078 retcons are the worst.

[@gorre-kten]

@@nabilahmed579 first of all that is a great question because as we've seen they were all being toyed with by kronika raiden would either kill liu kang when he became the zombie in the og timeline and timeline before mk9 and then there was another timeline called mk vs dc where liu tried to protect shang-tsung and then there was other more timelines where liu was wearing different costumes with raiden

[@oolooo]

She went from a Kind and Heroic Queen to her people and loving mother to her only child to a sadistic and demented narcisist with no love for her daughter and willing to murder her , enamoured with the man who invaded her realm , killed her husband and forced her to marry him , sexually harassing and enslaving people and just overall murdering innocents . Thank you , Netherrealm .As a Sindel enjoyer , I REALLY WANTED THIS .

[@MrJulio632]

Do you want the award for best sarcasm? (I don't mean sound rude, just want to build up your joke)

[@oolooo]

@@MrJulio632 Oh , wow , that would be SO HELPFUL

[@ItBeWurm]

@@oolooo you're like the nicest person ive ever seen

[@oolooo]

@@ItBeWurm Very incorrect .

[@ItBeWurm]

@@oolooo wow really? Never would’ve guessed

[@Darkjonny79]

What I think pissed people off more about the Sindel change, at least those that know, is that when they were showing off her gameplay way back when, Netherealm stated in the stream that they thought the Evil witch look she had, didn't mesh well with the good natured mother at heart that Sindel was. So, they wanted to change that, and they stuck with her looks because of course it made sense that she should be evil. For me, and I think many others, OG Sindel showed the true power of a mothers love. She fought as hard as she could to help her daughter. We could've had that here. Hell, she could've even adopted Mileena, telling her that while she's not Kitana's twin, she can at least guide the woman to find herself.

[@Marcustheseer]

they realy need to get that just because you look scary that doesnt mean youre evil,thats abit cliche.

[@avarast]

What i hate about this, is it makes irrelevent the brainwash she had, or the fact that she was revived as a ''slave''. If she was already evil and shao khan knew this... why go through all that trouble ?? just revive her and let her kick the sht out of almost anyone. Why did she need to keep it a secret ? what was the end goal of having kitana believe she was a loving mother ??? Just so she could go ''haha you thought''

[@tammid8423]

@@Marcustheseer and she doesnt even look that evil, just really powerful lol

[@CreditR01]

That is so unbelievably lazy. Nuance? What's that? PFFFT.

[@shortyg1018]

"Oh she looks evil so we made her evil" THESE are the people developing these video games these days no wonder they're all turning out the way they are smh...

[@jvnemesisedenia5206]

I remember a particular developer talking in the Sindel reveal stream about how she did all these nice things and physically looked evil the whole time and it didn't make sense to them why she was not evil. Hence the retcon was one of their proudest developments for the character in this game. So I just may single handedly blame that developer for the retcon 🤔

[@joseph2000117]

Idk y Ed Boon entertained that guy

[@theblocksays]

@@joseph2000117 Starting to come to the conclusion that Ed Boon no longer gives a fuck about MK beyond raking in the cash from WB and trolling fans on Twitter at this point. I mean they even killed his boy Scorpion.

[@syckles]

Who is this developer so I can thank him? One guy working at Neatherrealm who sounds like he has common sense.

[@sthepcorms6747]

"Looks evil" has white hair and wears purple?

[@sthepcorms6747]

Plus, Scorpion has a lot more villainous face than she does, so much so that in the first few games, everyone thought Sub Zero was good and Scorpion was evil So we're going to make a change to Scorpion's story, too? Make him kill his own family how about it?

[@isaacmaynez2491]

I can accept the other retcons... But Sindel Retcon is SO offensive, in retrospective they made Sindel fall in love with a Man that in one timeline left her Homeless, brainwashed her child... And the worst of all that, R*PED HER WITHOUT SHE BEING CONSENT... THAT IS F*CKED UP.

[@nabilahmed579]

The rape part does seem to be noncanon … I mean this is the same game that claimed kotal Kahn fucked d’vorah Plus in og timeline, it didn’t state anything about that happening

[@elmono6299]

@@nabilahmed579 Wait!? Kotal Khan fucked D'vorah!? 🤢🤮

[@joseph2000117]

@@elmono6299 goes to show NR does whatever they can and get away with it by labeling it non-canon. NR says that intro saying he did Dvorah is non-canon

[@elmono6299]

@@joseph2000117 thank fucking God it's non-canon as that already sounds like some eroctic creepy cringey fan-fiction that someone posted on the internet.

[@syckles]

Lol Kahn literally walks around with slaves clinging to him in his win pose. Yeah, I think he's done worse.

[@ARJOSAN14]

Sindel has always been my fav MK char, and man, I can tell you I was really disappointed with what they did to her, and I was initially so excited that she'd finally return. I love her visual design and moves in MK11 but changing her backstory and lore so much that she's unrecognizable now is disrespecting the character itself and its fanbase. It's like changing Scorpion's story and make him kill his wife and son instead. :(

[@cosmicghost811]

Agreed. She is my female main.

[@tgslayer4774]

Don’t give them ideas.

[@PlayfulOtter]

What got me was the interview where one of the people from NRS said something akin to, "Sindel wears scary makeup and clothes so we made her a villain to fit that." It just took all the wind out of my sails and kept me from riding the waves of hype for the game. I still bought it and still played Sindel, but I wasn't happy about it.

[@cosmicghost811]

@@PlayfulOtter ikr? By that logic they should've kept Scorpion as a villain.

[@nicolasramos2170]

As a Sindel main since mk3 I was always invested in the lore surrounding the character. And I'm pretty fanatic to mk since I was a child, so to think that a character that is argueably my favorite character in any media was denied of her rich story only to fit mk11's narrative is extremely dissapointing to me. If someone asks me, that is a case of taking what was already well defined instead of improving upon what we already had.

[@nintendolife25]

Seeing Sindel being retconned into a power hungry witch just constantly makes me lament how much of waste her really great design and moveset was.

[@BabyMaharaja0]

it fits her better to be evil

[@catfish8716]

​@@BabyMaharaja0 why?

[@BabyMaharaja0]

@catfish8716 originally shecwas a villain. she was also evil in the MK movie and it fits with her asthetic. also her presentation in MK11 was very nice and her voice actress was great

[@catfish8716]

@@BabyMaharaja0 I personally like the tragic hero Sindel better than the evil witch, but different strokes I guess.

[@minisquirtle9702]

I'm just glad someone finally acknowledged Skarlets retcon. I personally liked her far better as an unstoppable, silent test-tube baby assassin

[@billmcdermott9647]

She was blood Ermac

[@Dctctx]

@@billmcdermott9647 thanks for parroting exactly what he said

[@billmcdermott9647]

@@Dctctx who?

[@p.v.7269]

Honestly her retcon makes more sense than her original story. Why would Shao Kahn make an ultra powerful warrior out of blood who has the ability to become an unstoppable goddess of death if she's not kept on a leash? Why would he make a fighter who he's afraid of and could potentially overpower him if she's not kept constantly chained up and under control? I like her retcon better, as she's still a powerful warrior and a threat but isn't some stupidly powerful girl who everybody fears and needs to be under lock and key

[@minisquirtle9702]

Im gonna pretend I didnt see someone mention that Skarlet wasnt chained up cause thats exactly what she was in the tournament arena where Shao Kahn snaps Kung Lao's neck.

[@windego999]

When the whole Sindel retcon thing got leaked, nobody was happy about it. And it made no sense either. What was it supposed to change? She was already an incredibly strong and well written character, much better done than a ton of females in gaming. And then someone goes "OK what if she was secretly super evil the whole time?" like they wanted to do it purely for shock value. Or maybe they went "what if she's evil like in the movie?" but no one even likes Annihilation enough to want it that way. So why?

[@Jordan13299]

Hey give Annihilation some credit. They may have assassinated Jade’s character but at least Sindel still ends up good in the end of that movie.

[@loopyfists]

As a fan of Annihilation, she had still had been brainwashed in that one as well, otherwise she wouldnt have been turned good.

[@featherguardian6023]

Yeah NRS Retconned everything that made the Franchise great in MK11,to Jade,Kotal Kahn,Shao Kahn,Skarlet,Kung Lao,and the worst ones of them all Sindel and the MKX Comics,these are unforgettable.

[@wickdaline8668]

Maybe NRS started to run out of ideas with MK11?

[@Fabriciod_Crv]

Honestly, what even is the point of saying the MKX comics are non canon, if the story ends on yet another reboot? I think they just said that to save their asses, to avoid explaining all the contradictions they made with Mk11

[@nabilahmed579]

@@Fabriciod_Crv Tbf, some characters did get a good moment in there before being forgetten and treated like shit. Big ones for example are havik, KK and reiko, Johnny also starts some of his character development there too

[@Deathmare235]

I like Skarlet’s change it was good also how did Kung Lao get changed?

[@soulcyclone360]

@@Deathmare235 he went from someone who left the white lotus society to live a peaceful the life his ancestor, the great Kung Lao, wanted his descendents to have, but was forced to fight for earth realm to help prevent the invasion. To an battle hungry show off with no intention of living a quiet life. His entire back story and personality did complete 180.

[@TheChildofAuraReborn]

One of the things that bugs me about Sindel's retcon is that I've had people argue with me that because Sindel has always been evil in the games, that it just makes more sense to retcon her as evil because she's never been shown as a good guy except for her endings. Which is bullshit because Scorpion's very rarely been shown to be Hanzo Hasashi, yet MK9 successfully brought him to life and inspired a brand new path for the character to take. There's no way they couldn't have finally given us non-brainwashed Sindel.

[@billmcdermott9647]

It’s strange because it’s only MK 3 that actually plays her as a villain. Every other game till MK 9 paints her as a hero….and even when she is a villain in the new timeline it’s explicitly said to be mind control

[@charlesws7825]

The people who argued with you clearly have as much intelligence as the NRS writers...meaning they don't have much.

[@meganinten0078]

I was a casual fan of MK, Sindel was one of my favorites female characters. What NRS did to her in MK11... Now Sindel is one of the few waifus I actually HATE Before, she was a good example of never judge a book by its cover. Despite her sexy dark queen appearance , she was actually a heroine. That made her unique and I wish more female characters were like that. The fact that they made her evil becuase of her appearance was nothing but awful 🤕

[@soulcyclone360]

It also kinda goes against their p.c. movement. Ironic.

[@bluesyrupgc4224]

I think The4thSnake summed it up best: “they wanted to subvert expectations, but Sindel was already a subvert of expectations. Subverting a subversion is playing it straight.”

[@soulcyclone360]

@@bluesyrupgc4224 I love that guy

[@Mimi._.Haruno_]

@@soulcyclone360 same

[@soulcyclone360]

@@Mimi._.Haruno_ a person of culture I see.

[@AlonzoTompkins]

They didn’t like the entire “don’t judge a book by it’s cover” thing Sindel had going on. They didn’t like her actually not being a piece of crap.

[@LA-Knight-YEAH]

NRS in 2011: Sindel is a hero that sacrificed her life to protect Earth Realm NRS in 2015: Referred to as one of Raiden's friends. NRS in 2019: Geras says Sindel loved Katana above anything else. NRS in 2020: Sindel is a villain who hates Katana and is a gold digger. Estimation: She is probably gonna be one of the throw away villains in the 2nd Mortal Kombat film.

[@Macaulyn_97]

It's KITANA

[@skurinski]

Kitana not Katana

[@Nikephorus]

Agree with you that the Sindel retcon was probably the worst in MK11. I know playing through the story mode that was the one thing stood out the most to me.

[@kendonl.taylor5111]

#NotmySindel.

[@JayJay0805]

#twindel

[@salutcava2262]

NRS : Sindel is kinda bland so let's turn her into cartoonish villain that's will make a multidimensional compelling character.

[@elmono6299]

The retcon not only ruined Sindel's backstory but she was ultimately flanderized in the process. She went from a sympathic tragic loyal queen who was unwillingly evil into some narcissistic, greedy, vainful, horny dictator.

[@BabyMaharaja0]

and it works so much better. Shao Kahn having a female counterpart is great and she's presented well as an evil queen

[@jesusclause4164]

@@BabyMaharaja0 they shouldve made a new character for that, it makes absolutely no sense for sindel to be loyal to him what so ever. its offensive that they made her this way.

[@BabyMaharaja0]

@jesusclause4164 no they shouldn't. being shao kahns wife is always going to be her most notable characteristic so you might as well play it up

[@maxrichards3881]

@@BabyMaharaja0 Kitana's mother > Shao's kidnapped bride You lose

[@Raine749]

@@BabyMaharaja0what depth is there to twindel?

[@Scouthedog1]

I actually like Scarlett's wreck on more than the original. I think being all fun brought of the streets makes her a bit more relatable while them being a massless killing machine. And her actual loyalty to Shao Kahn isn't out of fear it's because he actually gave her a chance at life. And yeah like underdogs said it does make shall card a little more sympathetic instead of him just being mega evil the whole time. Though the other reckon Are just lame

[@the-point-bearer6689]

What's the point of Shao Kahn being a ruthless emperor if you don't kill Kitana for betrayal, kill Skarlet for her failures, or outright murder Sheeva for rebelling against him? Heck, why not torture the rest if you can recall him for not just being strong, but smart as well.

[@DTownNash]

She belongs to the streets! (In my Future voice)

[@ArchangelSteve]

It's "retcon".

[@blobface103]

I also liked Scarlet's new story a bit more. Don't get me wrong, having her made of blood explains a lot about how she can turn her body to blood and summon weapons, but having her rise from the streets gives her more character than just being a lion in a cage.

[@HeirofDacia]

How the fuck did you spell "retcon" (Retroactive continuity) as "Wreck on"?

[@hjn2328]

Sindel was a martyr, she sacrificed herself to protect the realms, but always regretful she left her daughter behind. Yet, she understood what she had to do to protect everyone. She knew Shao Kahn would become too powerful to stop from conquering the other realms once he took Earthrealm. If anything, I would have loved to see the writers explore the original Sindel, the queen of Edenia being debriefed of the current events. Seeing her reaction at how everything turned out. Having to ally with Shang Tsung who she has history with of many years (even having Sindel say she witnessed Goro killing the Great Kung Lao and that event was the turning point for her decision, man a wasted opportunity). If she is angry, let her be angry towards Raiden, and she would be right: her sacrifice stopped Shao Kahn for thousands of years, instead the "He must win" thing did not work for him. Her sacrifice was for nothing in MK9. Something that was not mention in MK9, but it was clear in MK3 in 1995: for Shao Kahn to be "allowed" to invade Earth, he needed Sindel to be resurrected in Earthrealm (Hence Shang Tsung, of Earthrealm Origin was the one who resurrected her, not Quan Chi), then Shao Kahn would be allowed to open the portals to claim her queen in Earth. Now, this could have been under the context that his queen's body was stolen by Earthrealmers or by the Black Dragon, I dont know, but something like that could have been used still during MK11 story mode. I mention this since it is MK2 Shao Kahn the one we see in the time merger and onwards. Let Shao Kahn try that again with Shang Tsung instead of Quan Chi. Thus we come full circle, having Sindel gain the knowledge of the events in MK3, she could have pretended to serve Shao Kahn, but then in the end absorb Shang Tsung like in MK9 but this time instead of killing the full cast, she could have gone against Shao Kahn and Kronica herself. That could have been her own ending honestly.

[@tylerleach8796]

Actually she wasn’t a martyr in the original timeline. She was just driven to suicide because she was forced to marry a man who killed her real husband and conquered her realm.

[@tylermatthews427]

Kotal and Jade being in love with each other is the one good thing that happens to Kotal in the whole story mode of either game.

[@spidersplicer9975]

Why do you think it's good? She forgives a man who almost committed genocide lol

[@nabilahmed579]

Kotal literally got retconned into a racist just to make jade look good… when jade is the one who outright called tarkatan dogs

[@NovelVanguard]

@@spidersplicer9975 isn’t jade an assassin neither are good people but I did actually like the romance they had hadn’t what they did to sindel but I don’t actually hate the fact they show less skin now

[@ultraspinalki11]

Blame the writers who did everything wrong with the character. Making him into a coward in MKX who gets beaten by the bow-wielding guy, then into a racist who gets crippled and ultimately killed XD

[@marikaaiello9373]

@@spidersplicer9975 completely agree. There is something you can't forgive, like what kotal did

[@piotrkubik2307]

Kotal/Jade may be a retcon, but that's the one among all of them that I'm mostly fine with. Scarlet ... well, they took all things about her power that made her a threat and threw it away, and they made her horny redhead (literally red-head) with some blood tentacles, eh. And Sindel's retcon, as said in the video. Just huge, fat shit on sindel's fanbase face

[@nabilahmed579]

That retcon crippled KK harder than shao Kahn crippling his back lol

[@Headstrong9128]

I don't think Kotal and Jade relationship was a retcon, I mean, why would NRS mention his romantic relationship in MKX if she's not in the game and R-Kitana (only direct link to Jade) didn't interact with Kotal during the main story. And Jade thought Kotal was death, so her not mentioning him makes sense to me.

[@Deathmare235]

Kotal/Jade isn’t really a retcon it doesn’t contradict anything also Skarlet being op wouldn’t make much sense unless she’s a major villain

[@nabilahmed579]

@@Headstrong9128 they didn’t mention anything about KK being in a relationship in X tho

[@Headstrong9128]

@@nabilahmed579 why would they have to say anything about a relationship if Jade was death and a revenant?

[@inkling1377]

I don’t think the Edenians need weapons for say to be powerful, it’s just that the last few surviving ones were trained to use them such as the assassins. Imo it’s more of the Edenians channeling their magic through their weapons which allows them to gain upgrades/using their magic easier

[@NealCamerlengo]

Out of all that was mentioned Sindel's changed is what pissed me off the most. Kabal on the other hand didn't really piss me off that much because in the original timeline he was in the Black Dragon but around MK3 he left but then in Deception rejoined the Black Dragon along with Kira and Kobra and fought with the evil side during Armageddon.

[@antiseize11]

I was pissed at that too

[@sharifrowe7812]

I’m not even a Sindel fan and my god do I feel insulted when I heard that change about her change like jeez tgat upset me

[@vinnie906]

They could have saved Sindel in this. All they had to do was give her and Kitana one final dialogue before their fight, after Sindel spoke of how Kitana's father died. Sindel admits to lying about Jared's death and using Shao Kahn to get to the Hourglass, just to kill Kahn in the end and use the Hourglass to restore Edenia once again. Thus, they needed to continue their deception and Kitana needed to give her mother the win for the plan to work. THAT'S IT! Sindel saved and fans kept

[@Gwinnmusic]

Imagine Sindel in this very scenario you just described saying "I am sorry, but... He must win". People would have LOST their mind and would have made a cliché story into something nuanced and possibility of theorycrafting.

[@sonomni]

She unfortunately still would’ve died to Shang Tsung at the end but she’d probably fight Shao Kahn first.

[@naos8116]

Yeah, the Sindel retcon is pretty bad, especially since Shao Kahn was apparently so awful she killed herself and now they're just a power couple. I mainly play as Kabal, and his retcon kinda makes no sense. It implies he was Black Dragon during MK3's events rather than a cop. If that was the case, how did he die? Geras even says Kabal is "one of Raiden's victims", which implies he still does work with the heroes against Shao Kahn's invasion. Also pre-burned Kabal had super speed somehow.

[@lapplandkun9273]

because kiddleson and the other writers at NRS loves to ruin and butcher classic stories

[@trafikantes4204]

Didn't he died by Sindel in MK9?

[@naos8116]

@@trafikantes4204 Yes, however, it seems to have been partially retconned. His bio says he was a rookie cop bought off by the Black Dragon. However, this doesn't make sense, as he was originally a former Black Dragon member who became a cop. With the new backstory, him being dead makes no sense. He died as a hero against the Outworld invasion, but Kano supported the Outworld invasion.

[@SlyVerzzei]

Growing up with sindel being one of my favorite fictional characters and idolizing her since I was 7, then having mk11 come out was devastating

[@nicolasramos2170]

As a Sindel main since mk3 I was always invested in the lore surrounding the character. And I'm pretty fanatic to mk since I was a child, so to think that a character that is argueably my favorite character in any media was denied of her rich story only to fit mk11's narrative is extremely dissapointing to me. If someone asks me, that is a case of taking away what was already well defined instead of improving upon what we already had.

[@maxusgaming4871]

I feel like NRS did these retcons for themselves to take away the burden of complex character development and interactions just to get the game done quicker and appease the casual fans more than the OG MK fans

[@thebigquack6945]

That image of a tearful Sindel embracing her daughter after successfully completing her redemption arc, was ripped to pieces right in front of fans world wide It’s one thing to have Sindel body everyone including kitana in MK9, but they outdid themselves in aftermath

[@maxrichards3881]

Enhanced by all of Shang Tsung's Souls.

[@13THMoonligHT]

Nothing goes with this Sindel, her eyes, her story nothing too denaturalized the character, also with Skarlet Story Certainly the character was getting closer to Mileena but hey we had integrated this image of her but in the 11 they changed everything from her origins to her style of Kombat. She went from dreadful assassin to frightened mage... Also with Jade Cloothes I didn't understand his main colors, and his bo one, I think they did that just for one scene,the one where she raises the dead, a bit like Mileena's mouth I think of the fact that she had lips in X just for one scene: her kiss with D'vorah. I just hope that we will return to another continuum for the 12

[@Deathmare235]

I liked Skarlet’s change

[@13THMoonligHT]

@@Deathmare235 I therefore think that you probably knew her in the MK11 or that you did not have the chance to play her in the 9, she was bloodier and more imposing than the frightened mage she became in the MK11

[@thementallywell7897]

Also the disgusting choice to make Skarlet desire her own father. She even calls herself a daughter of Shao Khan; makes me sick.

[@Mister_Dollz]

I hope that in MK12, the kharacters return to being complex, because that's what makes them intriguing to players.

[@ArchangelSteve]

Well, at least one of the writers has left, so there's a better chance now...

[@davonross1022]

They still gotta do the 3d games like deadly alliance and the other 2 so the still gotta cover the dogu and the dragon king hasn't been reborn yet

[@ArchangelSteve]

@@davonross1022 it would be cool if MK12 had Fire God Liu Kang and the Great Kung Lao chasing down Shujinko to try to stop him from resurrecting Onaga, and Shujinko constantly fighting them off because Damashi tells him they're evil and are trying to kill him, but it's NRS so we're probably going to get a retelling of MK1-3 again.

[@lapplandkun9273]

@@ArchangelSteve There was a news article that kiddleson, one of the writers, had returned a few days or so back, so I have no hope

[@lapplandkun9273]

@@davonross1022 too bad NRS despises the 3d era games

[@Takejiro24]

What I hate the most about Sindel's retcon is what it does to Kitana. She's my top favorite character in the series and what they did to her because of her mother's retcon was so fucking dirty. Correct me if I'm wrong: I think Aftermath was the first ever instance we've gotten insight into how she feels about her mother abandoning her and, very surprisingly, it has great depth and nuance in her reaction. She shows considerable vulnerability and numerous emotions to her mother from shock, apprehension, hurt, a sense of betrayal, relief/acceptance and joy just to have her mother back in her life. Very realistic portrayal that practically anyone who has ever felt/actually been abandoned by their parents can relate to. It could have also expanded Sindel's arc and fleshed out her character more if they kept her suicide purely as a selfish means to escape Shao Kahn instead of the noble sacrifice used to protect Earthrealm since she'll have to work even harder for her redemption should Kitana remain wary of fully letting her back into her life (but, the noble sacrifice could still work as a redemption arc since she *did* still abandon her child to the ruthless Emperor). Honestly, I don't think I can sufficiently put into words just how great that writing is...... But, it's not bogged down by everything that happened afterwards but in the very scene itself since you can just tell Sindel is obviously feigning affection for her daughter with how forced it all is. Then they proceed to have Sindel shack up with abd work with the man who *led her to suicide in the first place* (retconned to having been assassinated by Quan Chi) to depose her daughter (who completed her arc by blinding the man who made her family suffer so much and becoming Queen of Outworld to reform it) and beat her within an inch of her life. I think this whole mess of Sindel and Kitana is truly emblamatic of NRS' writing: when it's good, it's surprisingly really good but not only is it few and far between, it's bogged down by everything else NRS decided.

[@tristancampbell4941]

How the Gods of Earthrealm got their Groove Back

[@lucasilario6190]

The way Shao Kahn says wife makes me laugh every time

[@QuestionableLogic_]

What makes it the worst of all the retcons in my eyes is how much NRS having been trying to hard lean into to the women empowerment thing. *_To be clear, the empowerment isn't the issue,_* it's just that the one person with an established tragic backstory of being an abuse victim that gave her life for the good of others, eventually being able to rise above her hardship being turned into a power-hungry witch stereotype in the same game that Jade gets this massive upgrade in her independence just feels like the whole effort was disingenuous for the sake of headlines while butchering what could have been. It just sucks

[@meganinten0078]

MK11, the most SJW and feminazi game of the series. It made me hate the series

[@TheDarioushurt]

@@meganinten0078 dude just stop both of you sound ridiculous

[@QuestionableLogic_]

@@meganinten0078 Well, that is certainly a way to interpret the original comment

[@meganinten0078]

@@QuestionableLogic_ I am straight to the point with my comments. To be honest, I disagree with feminazis and SJW in general. I respect their opinions BUT respect doesn't mean I have to agree. Sadly, in the society we live, if someone thinks different than popular trends, people will see you as trash. People is more intolerant now. Think about the creator of FNAF and how people in the Internet were cruel because of his ideals and beliefs.

[@Kara-de5cz]

@@meganinten0078 you using the words "feminazi" and "SJW" is a big red flag, but at least people know they have to block you "People are more intolerant" -> No, people nowadays don't wanna tolerate hateful ideas like racism, sexism, etc.

[@MaoriGamerDood]

Sindel MK3 - MK9: Mother, Fighter, Loyal Benevolent Ruler and aid to the realms. MK11: ............. No.... no words need be said.

[@jaidora]

The Skarlet retcon is okay with me, just wished there were more moments with her and Shao Kahn or explained a few more things like "she was an orphan but after being bound to the blood code she became someone new, her sustainability requires her to consume blood or else she goes on a violent hunger pang attack". Jade and Kotal, I don't mind either way but I like the relationship blooming naturally overtime. As for Sindel, technically she was resurrected by Quan Chi and he did say she would be more cooperative so there are shenanigans based on the wording. It's still a really bad decision no matter how you look at it; the more complex approach would be if Shang Tsung deliberately revived her revenant with her evil mindset intact/his past soul still infused with her, corrupting her psyche permanently and denying the retribution she had from Deception.

[@justaguywhoplaysgames]

Sometimes I put Vaseline all over my body and slide around my house trying to be a slug

[@bokute2020]

"Because Khan has a bigger rod than Jellyrod so Sindel immediately falls for him" is what I get from this horrible retcon.

[@AntilleanConfederation]

Laughs in Shao Kans voice. Wahahaha you suck… Sindel wins, flawless victory 😉

[@bokute2020]

@@AntilleanConfederation The way they did her story pissed me off real bad

[@saloz9483]

NRS deserve every bit of hate they get for the sindel change as it actually takes away from the character and adds absolutely nothing. Then the out of game reason for the change was beyond stupid as they basically said just because she looked evil that mean she is evil. So remember people judge everyone person you meet just by looks. I also hate the jade and kotal kahn romance as it feels so random, theres zero chemistry and it goes nowhere.

[@KritoSkywaker]

I wanted to add something to your Sindel part. How OG Sindel was actually freed from the brainwashed state. While the others were fighting Shao Kahn's extermination squads, Kitana eventually meets up with her. Kitana tries to convice her mother about the truth, but they end up fighting and Kitana gets knocked out by Sindel. Jade eventually shows up and sees Kitana. As she assumes that her friend is dead, Jade accuses Sindel for murdering her own daughter. Jade's words eventually found it's way into Sindel's heart and she started to remember everything about her past. After that, Kitana regains consciousness and after their reunion, Kitana explains everything that happened after her suicide. And then, Sindel decides that she joins the heroes. I hope this will ease up some confusion. 😄 And for the record, her retcon is straight BS. She did NOT deserved this... 😭

[@mr.checkyourself4672]

Sindel better be revamped back to her original counterpart self if she ever return.

[@fightingmedialounge519]

As far as I can tell, sindel dying to put protective speel around earth was a mk9 addition. In mk3 Shao Kahn had her specifically brought back on earth so that he could travel there and reclaim his bride. Which would technically fall within line of old mk's rules about realm invasion.

[@syckles]

Either is ridiculous and convoluted.

[@fightingmedialounge519]

@@syckles never said it wasn't my friend.

[@syckles]

@@fightingmedialounge519 I know, my bad. Im just reading all the comments on this video, and I think its insane this is the thing people are most upset about.

[@fightingmedialounge519]

@@syckles no need to apologize. For me personally, I don't think either version of sindel was developed enough to care either way. Yet, nrs sindel is the polar opposite of midway sindel, so I can understand why people would dislike the latter if they were a fan of the former.

[@mandalorethebosss]

I wish Netherrealm would have gone with Raiden engaging in mortal kombat with outworld switching perspective and giving us more dark Raiden

[@onagaali2024]

Mortal Kombat's lore is all over the place. They're always contradicting the plots and storyline. Skarlet in MK9 was actually a former assassin for Quan Chi. They can never make up their minds with how they want to keep Sindel good or evil. Sindel's story is full of contradictory themes. I think NRS should have kept her the heroic Queen she was redeemed as back in MK Deception.

[@deadknight1402]

I like to imagine that because she died with Quan Chi's charm still on her, and was subsequently made into a revenant for less than 30 years, then it twisted and altered her memories and personality to what they are when she's resurrected by the Trio in Aftermath. Shao Kahn is simply playing along with it ('cause he's a manipulative S.O.B.), and perhaps Shang Tsung had some knowledge of such charms already, and had already suspected that the years of being a revenant may have augmented the charm's impact on her psyche.

[@lloydbagby8355]

that or Raiden change the time line had a unexpected butterfly expect made her evil and I like both version of sindel but this version makes wish qun chi was in 11 so I can rip his head off with earther sindel or shao kahn because ugg I can stand him

[@marikaaiello9373]

NRS made a big mistake by making Jade take back Kotal after she saw him try to slaughter innocent Tarkatan's including children in the war camp. Simply because they were a race that tried to overthrow him during the civil war. Kung Lao did many good things for her, especially go against Raiden to help her free Kitana from Shao Kahn's tower. And in MK11, Kung Lao was the one who helped Jade to walk out of the tent after Skarlet's attack to drain her of her blood. That's why I think Kung lao is much better than Kotal for Jade. And as a fan of Sindel I am very disappointed about this new villain version of her, she should have helped Kitana 100%

[@darkside9547]

My view over the retcons and changes in development in the reboot of MK: Kotal Kahn and Jade: Pretty unneccesary, though it could work if there relationship was mention in MK9 Nightwolf: It was ok Fujin: One of the few characters to have good development Sheeva: Ok but it felt forced. Rain: it could have good potential Kung Lao: Wasted Potential and literally a punching bag Skarlet: unnecessary backstory change due to confusion Erron Black: He was better in MKX Baraka: Surprisingly good Sindel: No comment, just easily the worst retcon of all time

[@nabilahmed579]

In all fairness, nightwolf’s one didn’t really do much for his story in the main plot

[@forickgrimaldus8301]

Erron really has nothing to do in MK11 he is just there, so him not even saying "hey guys did you know I am immortal" kind of makes in the main game but makes no sense in Aftermath, no "hey Shang thanks for the immortality, or I remember your smug slimy face Shang"

[@forickgrimaldus8301]

@@nabilahmed579 also Nightwolf really has nothing to do in the story, he is really just a proxy for Liu Kang which is fine because thats the main plot, Sindel has the worst retcon as it devolves her character and not really enhance it. (unless they twist that in the next game and say "Shang did it again and mind tricked the queen") At least with Skarlet you can mix it with the MK9 lore and say she was "made" from the blood of Warriors enhancing here blood magic and with Erron you can just say that he is actually the Young Erron Black from the 1880s, he was sent there via portal after all. (kind of a shame they didn't delve deeper with these 2, maybe Erron and Skarlet really did like each other because they feel like pawns, but while Erron set himself free from the Dragons and Shang becoming a mercenary, Skarlet didn't even though she hates her "Dad" either because she sees something in him or because she relys on blood)

[@patricklitterallyit4164]

Bro I still remember finding out in the Aftermath about the betrayal. I was crying when the hug happened but I was heartbroken when I found out she was actually evil. Sindel as a good character would have been so dope since she is so strong

[@hanzb.7438]

well, i was hated what Nrs did to sindel, but hearing Shao khan scream "WIFE" all the time was kinda funny

[@benedictmayamba2434]

May NetherRealm Studios bring the MKD Sindel's persona (I'm talking about Good Sindel) back for Mortal Kombat 12 and future Mortal Kombat games. Her retconed persona is an insult and a spit to the entire Mortal Kombat and Sindel's fans (including me) and I will never ever forgive the writters for doing that. I wish them getting fired and disappeared from Mortal Kombat team and NRS forever

[@billmcdermott9647]

Well if liu is in control of the timeline he might restore her to a better person

[@benedictmayamba2434]

@@billmcdermott9647 That's right

[@SonicUnderground316]

I don't mind orphan Skarlet personally, but there's a big disconnect between Skarlet's ending and her interactions with Shao Khan in-game. In her interactions, she seems incredibly grateful and loyal to him. She even sounds possessive of him so, making her hate him in her story doesn't make much sense.

[@DannyPhantomBeast]

I think you can give Sindel resentment against Jerrod for letting this happen and a have her develop a hunger for power in response to her trauma without... all this.

[@Jonkin715]

Honestly, I though that TUD was taking about the breakaway mechanic when I first read the title.

[@Deathmare235]

He already did that

[@soulcyclone360]

I don't think that the writers want to remove the nuances from the characters for the sake of not confusing the players. I believe that they might have just given up entirely since they knew everything was getting reckoned again and just dropped the ball, after all, it's not like anything that happened in any of the other games matters any more in the new timeline.

[@HouseOfAlastrian]

I feel somewhat deprived by the fact that I never played any classic Mortal Kombat games beyond MK2... Sindel sounds a LOT more interesting in that original timeline and seeing her and Shao Kahn together in MK11 Aftermath was nauseating... even before I knew about how she was in the original timeline.

[@DeathDragon5000]

I got 2 things to say 1st There was something I was curious basically isn't it possible that mk11 sindel is still mind controlled by Shao khan because my 2 theories are 1 the mind control effect was still with sindel during and after the time she was a revanant mind you all of the characters that had magical powers like scorpion demon fire powers and subzero cryomancer powers basically my theory is basically the mind control on sindel stayed with sindel throughout the entirety of mk9 to mk11 aftermath and my 2nd theory of why sindel is evil is because is it possible that Shang tsung In mk aftermath re implemented the Shao khan mind control when she was being resurrected and my 2nd thing is that sindel being evil could theoretically not even a retcon because gw while brainwashing somebody you can easily make them believe in something that's not even true so basically evil sindel is brainwashed to believe she killed Jarrod when in reality Shao khan killed him

[@jamiejameskingofgames4648]

Erron can die from aging but it’s just slowed down! Also, Kabal is different in this timeline, in one intro dialogue with him Raiden says “in some timelines you are a hero” reference to him being a cop.

[@vginsprdsobepr9698]

Thank you for addressing the elephant in the room. Sindel was my favorite hero. Her story was so full of suffering and her look always reminded me of Storm from the X-Men. The best Sindel story was in MK: Legacy. She was well presented in that story.

[@neme2877]

I feel like these retcons make slowly MK Lore like FNAF Lore: confusing, mind-boggling and weird. But unlike FNAF, MK Lore has some really bad retcons.

[@notproductiveproductions3504]

Do “drippiest fighting game characters”

[@taktak92]

I could get with Sindel being evil the whole time but to betray her people for a better lover?! Blasphemy!!!!!

[@nabilahmed579]

How tf does that work then bcoz being evil will involve something evil as in betraying her own people? It ain’t exactly a good act. Plus there was nothing hinting that sindel was evil when she was freed of her brainwashing

[@blobface103]

I definitely agree with your point about Jade's approach in MK11. If the writer wanted her to have more story, they could have made her story in the game rather than as an inference offscreen. And I love the idea of having Jade and Kotal's love story start in the game. It would have made it more believable.

[@ShaunBlissQuinn]

When they did the live showcases showing the new dlc characters the girl who is always there basically said sindel always looked evil to me so i dont know why shes mainly on the good side so since she looks bad we made her a full on bad guy in this game that was the reason behind the stupid change completely ruining the character in my opinion

[@thalianox2492]

Sindel's retcon had me so triggered. If this their idea of a strong female character, they can stick it. Thin there sorry excuses were "She looked gothic there for she's evil" or "She's been evil this whole time, we just didn't know it." Watching her scenes made me physically gag.

[@seanwolslau-holdren6731]

0:01 funny as hell, and precisely how I felt when I saw Sindel and Shao Khan hug.

[@akilcharles3473]

Don't get me wrong i still love MK11 for the gameplay,how the characters look,the fatalities and in some context the story mode despite it being somewhat horendous its still enjoyable to watch. However the retcons is what brings this game down alot. I can "somewhat" forgive for some retcons: Skarlet being an orphan & Jade being romanticly involve with Kotal (I mean those 2 make a nice couple to be honest). But the 1 for Sindel is where i draw the line, bringing her back and having to believe she was actually a bad guy this whole time is by far the most stupiest retcon ever after watching the 2nd part of the story mode. And speaking of which something has brought up to my attention, as Underdawg stated Shang Tsung in MK3 was the one to revive Sindel and brainwash her , but whereas in the reboot of MK9 Quan Chi was the one to revive her and i noticed in the story mode that's all he did, he did'nt even try to mind controlled her. But you maybe saying 'well he did that by reviving her' and you could be right! However when revived Sindel wasnt a revenant and she immediatly knew she's Shao Khan's husband whereas later we see Quan Chi revived the good guys as revenants and was brainwashed. But I dont know was this retcon at the start of the new timeline in MK9 or something else!? Anwsers in the comment section.

[@ArchangelSteve]

I actually agree with you about Jade and Kotal, it makes sense to me that the bodyguard of the emperor's daughter and one of the emperor's top generals might end up falling for each other and having a secret affair, plus it does give Jade her own character and motivations beyond saving/serving Kitana, and also fleshes out Kotal a little more past Shao Kahn's replacement in X, so I honestly didn't mind that retcon. Also, the Sindel retcon is during the MK9 timeline, she was explicitly brainwashed in the original trilogy and was seeking redemption during the 3D era, during the NRS era she's just always been evil.

[@fightingmedialounge519]

Her bio in mk9 does state she was brainwashed Steve. The change happend specifically in mk11.

[@Sperg10]

About Erron's backstory being retconned, I don't think they removed the part about him not aging, I think they might have even added to it. In an intro dialogue between Errin and Skarlet, Skarlet asks Erron if Kotal knows "what he is" and Erron replies with "he knows I fight for the thrill of it" and the interaction ends with her saying "he should pray you don't get bored" so I think they might have been hinting to something more.

[@kingsman5121]

4thSnake is proud of you Dawg

[@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr]

4thSnake, True UnderDog, and SonicHa XD are people that are the biggest lore experts compared to the people writing the lore in WB Studios currently.

[@kingsman5121]

@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr yep but snake is the sindel guy so that’s why I said him specifically

[@nabilahmed579]

Replace trueunderdawg with fighters den or hbtw bcoz they seem to be more focused on that

[@iamalbertwesker2]

The orphan Scarlet thing, how do we not know that's not just something Shao didn't just tell Scarlet and keep the charade up as a means of control?

[@kluski3423]

I wish Sindel still was good and had white eyes...

[@ChaosZero1031]

6:00 What kind of crap is that, with the comics for Mortal Kombat, and even Injustice (since they apparently retcon most of what happened in them as well). "Here's some comics that we made specifically to be supplemental material for lore and fill in the story gaps between games, but we are also gonna make up and also pick & choose whatever we want to actually be canon."

[@Coolhand118]

Personally I think Shang tsun kept kotal in the flesh pits in mortal kombat 9. My head cannon is that *”well, he isn’t in mk9 so that’s why he is in the flesh pits”* at least that’s what I think lol

[@BlackFlash09]

Ah, so Sindel suffers from a villain retcon. Just like Fiona Fox, from the Archie Sonic Comics.

[@lbnycity89]

I actually prefer Scarlet's new backstory than her old one. I feel like she can be more developed as a character. Now her first backstory made her potential very lethal but I feel like they can still do that with the new backstory and plus she'll have a personality.

[@yunehversomi1458]

One of the worst things about the Sindel retcon is that being simply bad just kills any potential redemption for all of her past sins, under mind control or not. She has no regrets, no guilt, no conscience. It burns all bridges with any of the heroes and just sets her up for inevitable failure because bad guys lose all the time. She is basically irredeemable. I’d agree with the retcon making Skarlet seem less powerful as a possible explanation as to why she jobs so much but than again this is the same game with Kronika and Cetrion in it. On a lighter note, a retcon that I did like was the reveal that Ermac had Jerrod’s soul. Makes me wish he was still OP like in the past timeline or that they even followed up on it. Plus it paints Shao Kahn as an even bigger A-hole because not only will he take his wife, drive her to Hara Kiri, raise her daughter as his own only to replace her with a modified version, he’ll also take the souls of Jerrod and his people and make them into another soldier in his army. As if taking Edenia wasn’t enough, he’s having his victims help him do it to other realms as well.

[@susfriend2787]

Bruh these intros are godlike ngl Also how about a video on D’Vorah, like why a lot of people hate her so much

[@schemar17]

She kills everyone when she isn't strong enough to do so

[@jaernihiltheus7817]

She steals kills & nearly everyone she *does* kill are fan favorite OG characters whose story arcs either haven't finished yet or haven't started.

[@trafikantes4204]

1. She's gross. 2. She kills fans beloved characters. 3. She's weak af in MK11 4. Her part in MK11 story mode felt underwhelmed, like her role there was not really...well used.

[@SlinkBKZ]

Dude THIS!!! Also lets not forget about the fact Goro is 2000 years old, and for some reason he is a withered skeleton that looks to have died of old age, yet he's still alive in MKX which happened only a few years prior? unless the Goro's lair stage takes place in the future?

[@DTownNash]

I've said it before, I'll say it again; if you like this retcon you're not a real MK fan. You don't love MK and want the best for it, you enable it. What kind of fan would enable something that hurts the FRANCHISE like this? I said what I said. Don't @ me. Not up for debate.

[@vinnie906]

7:16 my man, at this point any mid schooler is a better writer than the writers at NRS. When I was 12, I would always give myself migrains thinking of ways that my fanfictions always made sense and followed their own plot.

[@wesker1739]

I have to agree with you on this man. The original sindel retcon I fell in love with is no longer with us....the retcon is fucking ruined now. Sure they can do whatever they want with the retcon but common. But I felt like I was being told off in a way. It was like a huge fuck you to the people that loved her original retcon and why we fell in love with sindel. I’m not gonna lie I wasn’t happy about the change. It’s like A bad taste in my mouth. She got restored only to have a few chapters of breath and die off. Hhhhhhh

[@trippyeyes1477]

Ok but if Sindel was evil the whole time why did she kill herself and put up a barrier to protect Earth realm? The only headcanon I can think of is MK11 was not in the same universe as 9-10, but one of the many timelines Raiden saw and in the MK9/10 timeline they already lost. Whatever plot holes this makes aren't nearly as bad as ones made from MK11

[@FuelDropforthewin]

Clearly Kronika pulled the MK 11 past characters from a different timeline, thus explaining discrepancies. Or does it? Dun dun dun.

[@billmcdermott9647]

No.. it’s only from the past. She erases timelines and then starts again so there are not multiple timelines floating around It’s a shame too so mk11 Shang could actually be movie Shang

[@FuelDropforthewin]

@@billmcdermott9647 Shhh! Don't ruin this for me. :(

[@HELLRAISER02]

In one of erron blacks intros with shang tsung or geras i think,he mentions that hes much older than helooks, implying thathe has eternal youth from shang

[@vexonet5810]

But.... they reconed it in the comics and the games. He is just black dragon and the comic says he is just a normal texas boy. And saying that he is much older than he looks doesnt prove anything. Hell jax must be 50 and he packs a 20 year old cake

[@HELLRAISER02]

@@vexonet5810 no i meanhe says hes much older in regards to an event that happens in the 1800s i think, and MK11 takes place in the 21st century so if i remember errons intros right, hed be like 200

[@HELLRAISER02]

@@vexonet5810 nevermind, geras said he was shot 1881 by wyatt hirt or whatever the name was, so erron would be a normal guy like stryker since now he doesnt have the sand powers

[@Mickylitman]

Underdawg can you do some tremor vids? Also I make action figures in zbrush if you want some I started work on Hotaru and Onaga figures

[@bongnut876]

Honestly, I didn’t know anything about Sindel’s lore and even then, the way they handled her character in mk11 just made me feel so uneasy. It’s a shame that they ruined such an interesting character for the sake of aesthetics

[@cartermd457]

Yes we want Good Sindel back!

[@PricefieldPunk]

I think with Scarlet they could fix the issue by saying Shao Kahn is just lying to Scarlet telling her she's just a mortal who he adopted off the street so Scarlet herself is unaware of her true power.

[@lordronn472]

Sindel’s retcon is a sin the MK community won’t forget…. #notmysindel

[@mateusmarinho6941]

When i heard about this retcon, all i could think was "Wait, sindel has fans?!"

[@Princejoker2023]

I prefer the story for skarlet from mk9

[@13THMoonligHT]

9:02 It actually makes no sense and even He is wearing his breathing apparatus when he is not even at the stage of his burns yet (cord attached to his throat) logic would have it that the Kabal Human is not access to his gas and speed..

[@williamcolson2876]

I hated playing this shit

[@Nibbinz]

And then there's the ENTIRE mess and a half of "Who Killed King Jerrod"

[@13THMoonligHT]

0:25 I think there's a mistake logically it's Jade the Kotal's Sugar mamy. and I find their couple rather cute in real. I don't know why I imagined something between Jade and Smoke in the 9, but she and Kotal form a nice couple too, #Green💚

[@TrueUnderDawgGaming]

Kotal is Kahn at the time. So he rules the entire kingdom. He is definitely the sugar-daddy lol. Even when Kitana becomes Kahn later on, that would just make Jade the friend of a rich person

[@13THMoonligHT]

@@TrueUnderDawgGaming Jade is supposed to be a woman over 10,000 years old and in the archives I have consulted the only immortal race in the Outwold is the Edenians But when you see the architecture of the new MKs everyone seems to know each other (it doesn't make sense that for example D'vorah or Shang Tsung was wanted before Kitana was born when he would be the author of the murder of Sindel...) if I am wrong tell me So finally everyone seems immortal in the underworld... I think you should also make a video about all the inconsistencies of MK's story...