The MOST HEATED Debate In Gil's Arena HISTORY!!!

Gil's Arena's MOST HEATED Debate EVER as Gilbert Arenas, Rashad McCants and Miko Grimes go back and forth on what makes an NBA Player a leader and if they always need to be the best player on the team.
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[@LyricalOutlaw]

Rashad got an amazing ability to always be wrong lmao

[@primordial4696]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣this the best comment

[@ToppyJoe]

Straight disrespected his coworker

[@LyricalOutlaw]

@@ToppyJoe she hurt his feelings with the “you’ve never been the best player on a team so how would you know” 😩😂

[@princeakeem7131]

Confidently

[@ToppyJoe]

@@LyricalOutlaw he earned it

[@gallantquinton]

Kyrie on the Celtics is the perfect example of why being the best player on the team isn’t necessarily the leader😂

[@jigmunna4708]

This comment top 5 all time

[@kellyjoe70]

I hate to agree but that’s the best example

[@Bar_nun]

Kyrie numbers didn’t prove he was the best on that team

[@zureai]

​@Bar_nun OK you look at Kyrie, Jalen Brown and Jayson Tatum. Not looking at the stat sheet. You're picking JB and Tatum over kyrie?

[@joshuayoung5471]

Everyone on the team said he was. Don’t believe the media

[@Amos_Lee]

Rashad is willing to die on every single hill 😂😂😂

[@SaberedQuill]

You're very much correct sir. He's also never had an option that evolved or changed

[@develonanthony7457]

Was she dying on a hill too?

[@talkenhead87]

I swear bruh. And with the dumbest takes ever.

[@lawrencegambrell4293]

Rashad is a sexist piece of crap! He played 5 years in the NBA and was NEVER a star! The majority of his Pro career was spent overseas and he was never that good. His disrespect of Miko and where she went to school are typical of the BS that is Rashad. And I know it hit him hard when Miko said, "he doesn't even like Black Girls". OUCH!!

[@tst3000]

I respect him for that 🤣🤣🤣

[@bain.mp4]

35:27 Gil rearranging the cups was a “If Johnny had 2 apples…” moment

[@LordTrapkage]

😂😂whole time

[@dcdadon2217]

😂

[@bb2757]

Love how Gil just sat back and let them cook, you can tell he was enjoying it too

[@jaylaan421yahoocom]

Sips tea lmao

[@Capmob007]

I was dead Gil be on all bull shyt 🤣🤣😂

[@_.MARV1N]

This guy on a role on being wrong

[@DavidWilliams-pw1bz]

Honestly Miko and Rashad are awful. Gil is amazing that I can watch this.

[@xSkidMarx]

He was eating those chips with pure delight lmao

[@heirxavier]

She’s right. Russ is not the best player on the Clippers. Dray isn’t the best on GSW, yet he’s a leader…

[@theoriginaltroll388]

The best ability is availability but she won this one 😂😂

[@richvalleyep8525]

That’s a fact but also the team follows Kawhi

[@7odizzle78]

@@richvalleyep8525How the hell they follow a nigga that don’t even play🤦🏾‍♂️ Westbrook the leader they had no leader before him be fr PG and Kawhi barely play

[@Marcus-kc9wc]

​@@richvalleyep8525hell naw

[@southernflavamaker]

And thats why he's ringless.... There's only one leader on a team...there aren't multiple leaders on a fucking team....

[@V4Vendetta716]

This is a prime example of why rumors of Rashad being delusional still haunt him to this day..

[@9ninehd36]

Wow, after listening to this...Rashard is insane! He contradicted and talked himself into circles trying not to be wrong! I lime when she said it's your IQ 😂😂😂. I totally agree!

[@pushforwardtv]

How does Rashad get through life being like this? 🤣🤣🤣

[@Basketball_Debate]

You a goofy. 😂😂😂🌽🤓

[@matchingfingerprints]

Athleticism and eventually money.

[@young_fenix]

you funny as hell 🤣🤣🤣

[@Mac-kv3jp]

He’s incredibly dumb

[@Big_Jim2831]

People like that only act that way around certain people that are typically jealous of ! People he associates with outside of this is probably yes men and people he can make do what and as he says ,

[@goat.1376]

McCants is obvious proof that playing in the NBA doesn’t mean you know ball😂

[@Stanley_Fields]

You can be a leader with no followers! 😂

[@fresh2def23231]

Gil is

[@raregoodds3143]

pc police in force

[@raregoodds3143]

I would rather trust a doctor than a engineer when it comes to health, simple.

[@Tumorcoach]

@@raregoodds3143 except he isn’t a doctor he’s a medical assistant at the registrar. How y’all defending this 🤡

[@jayg5650]

Rashad is a perfect example of a person that you simply avoid after the first interaction. When you argue with a fool, you become one.

[@trkdaddy55]

Amen

[@outtabad]

Ty Lue proved her point wrong, yall just in here simping

[@babygoat12]

Yea u just let him talk n keep drinking “yea I hear you bro “ who got the drink ! Lmao

[@tayburke9804]

Smh you sound too dumb

[@mr.vibes938]

​@outtabad thank you. They all on her titties

[@lbushquizeanic1]

Gil's a genius because he understands how putting contrasting personalities together gives you something to look forward to.

[@SCOOBYGD]

Bringing on McCants was a genius move.

[@OldSchoolMinded]

Yup so many in the comment section don't get this fam. If everyone agreed shit wouldn't even be entertaining 🤷

[@jamardns77]

​@@OldSchoolMindedwell he was snaking miko out the whole time. She quit

[@Tempfadermag]

Rashad is the living definition of “I said what i said” 😂😂😂

[@JP-114]

Lol idk why that reminded.of Monet

[@21didthat68]

😂😂😂 no cap

[@Tempfadermag]

@@21didthat68 he couldn’t even make eye contact with nobody cuz he knew he was on BS 😂

[@Robrr89]

Rashad sounds like a whole damn female talking about his energy 😂

[@j-rellomusic]

😂

[@justinwilliams2001]

I see why rashad only lasted 4 seasons in the NBA. Dude is a person that can’t be wrong and doesn’t value anyone else’s opinion. That’s a terrible teammate.

[@younggod3906]

Wow I was just saying the same thing 😂. Great minds think alike

[@Stanley_Fields]

That was literally what coaches and ex teammates said about him, his attitude and body language is bad for team chemistry!

[@justinwilliams2001]

@@Stanley_Fields wow that’s crazy. It makes sense though.

[@justinwilliams2001]

@@younggod3906 they really do

[@Robedoe]

Not only terrible teammate but a terrible person in general. One of those nobody like to be around😂

[@darnellclemm135]

Dude really went 0-2 in this clip. He was talking nonsense to the girl then when Gil said what he said and indirectly backed what the girl was saying the whole time, dude with the crown started saying anything to disagree and prove his point. By the end of the debate he completely switched what he was saying

[@RicoSoprano_]

He actually went 0-3 on that stream against her that day Lmaoo

[@furious5bills201]

If I'm the only one in my class that gets a 100% on my math exams, and I give advice to my classmates on how to get marks like me, but they don't wanna follow my strategies, then i'm incapable of leading others to do better, which means i am not a leader.

[@jesschuzgaming6090]

Rashad wasn’t wrong that a leader leads by example but he didn’t wanna agree that there could be other methods of being a leader

[@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m]

That’s because Rashad was never a leader

[@Eldot5]

True. It’s a nuanced question, and therefore it’s a nuanced answer to what being a leader on an NBA team entails. It would have helped if both Gil and Rashad could have conceded on what is true and factual the discussion would have been better. Gil was not being honest because he kept making wrong and absurd inferences from what Rashad was communicating. Even though Rashad could have also given room for some more nuance in the fact that there are peculiarities to there being a best player and yet that best player isn’t the leader - I will however also agree with Rashad in saying that for the same reason there aren’t multiple captains on a ship, so also there aren’t many leaders on an NBA team on the floor. As for Miko, she’s just a piss poor communicator and fails to reason logically. Not worth debating her.

[@christopherblake2588]

There’s no nuance, the leader of the team is the leader. The president is the president, other people can invoke their “leadership” in moments. The leader is the leader, and to Rashad’s point, when the leader has spoken, that’s it. We are following that guys lead, not following all the leaders.

[@DonVDaArtist]

But he was wrong...because he said being a vocalist is not being a leader....and he was wrong because he said the best player is always the leader and thatz just not tru

[@dresand4712]

@@DonVDaArtisthe definitely said that’s just a “Vocal Leader” not the leader 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@chicagojason773]

The best part of this video is Gil’s reaction and him staying silent.😂

[@kongdaddy]

Then he didn’t wanna tell rashad he was wrong so he described exactly what miko was saying was a leader😂☠️

[@4363HASHMI]

Yeah would anyone in their right mind question MJ’s leadership even if he put on an jersey today, lol she’s being delusional, an average senior boys HS team would smash her cal state squad

[@Kn___w1038]

Looked like a fan at a tennis match

[@caplepalmer2794]

😂😂😂😂

[@ogricch]

@@4363HASHMIno it won’t. don’t say that bs

[@WilliamScott96]

McCants clearly was a coach’s nightmare smh

[@innovance3788]

Of course, he don't think a coach is a leader since he sitting next to him! 🙄

[@tonyboyd7794]

Miko wasnt for the bs period

[@nicobloomjew]

Every appearance Rashard makes on this show explains why his career went how it did. 😂

[@Dukefan107]

Noo lie , honestly I never heard of him really

[@johnwick.2.0]

Mane i swear. He considered a BUST in my eyes… she really flushed his ass wit dis debate especially since he say so much he a CHAMPION AND first round pick soooo u didnt do shit in the PRO LEAGUE THO.

[@user-pz8xm9eg7i]

@@johnwick.2.0 this conversation is about leading in the NBA!! 😂😂😂😂 Miko grimes is a ex-D2 college player, and never played in the WNBA with the best talent. 😂😂😂😂 McCants played D1 and made the league. 😂😂😂

[@DW-lw3hg]

@@user-pz8xm9eg7iand yet his opinion was STILL wrong

[@user-pz8xm9eg7i]

@@DW-lw3hg the words “wrong” and “opinion” don’t go together as well as you think; his opinion was that leadership isn’t always positive and perfect, and is a “lead by example” thought process, directly talking about a player like Kobe early in his career. He’s right, leadership comes in different forms, any real high level basketball player like him would know. Would you say Jimmy Butler is a leader for the heat? Yes. Is his leadership quality/style the same as a player like Udonis Haslem?

[@HAM_202]

Dude lost me when he said Westbrook was the best player on the Clippers 😂

[@Igotmoneyonmymind]

How is he not based on history….he’s the only MVP on the team

[@freddean2187]

He meant WB has had the best career.

[@HAM_202]

@@freddean2187 I’m a huge Westbrook fan but I’d rather have Kawhi’s 2 Rings and 2 FMVPs

[@HAM_202]

@@Igotmoneyonmymind I would rather have 2 rings and 2 Finals MVPs like Kawhi

[@AwfulLotOfSmoke]

@@Igotmoneyonmymindokay then d rose is the best player on the fuckin grizzlies🤣🤦🏾‍♂️

[@zowalk321]

She definitely is right. The best players are not always the leader and it can be more than 2 leaders.

[@mylifepoetic]

One word. Haslam. CLEARLY the leader for the heat for the past 4 seasons.

[@AllThingsKen]

he wasnt no damn leader @@mylifepoetic

[@e1kcapo326]

They act like Steph and Draymond not the perfect example of her argument

[@pandabear1576]

@@e1kcapo326you can even add iggy to that as well

[@randomizeduzername]

​@@e1kcapo326draymond leads vocally because of steph silence imo

[@terrellbennett119]

In All Honesty..The Show Would Be Boring If Rashad Wasnt On Here Trying To Validate His Point😂...Every Show Needs A Guy Like Him

[@MrHustle111]

Rashad is the perfect example of the fact that not everybody who played in the NBA knows winning basketball...

[@nelsenchill]

how like i deadass dont get where he was wrong in a factual sense 😭

[@dark40010]

@@nelsenchillthere’s a principle in philosophy which this is where things have to be consistent. Mccants is wrong because Mikos description of leadership is far more realistic and generally makes more sense when you apply it to different circumstances. Mccants perspective is narrow and only fits a specific example of how leadership could happen - not how leadership works overall

[@Atlas365247]

Actually Gil is. Rashad never had a chance at winning basketball. We know Gil made it to the playoffs, all star, was on a competitive squad.

[@rapgodreloaded9259]

Also dated a Kardashian

[@TheReal-xp2ti]

​@@nelsenchilleverything he said was wrong

[@t_rexx5880]

I’ve never seen someone stand on being wrong so hard in my life 😂

[@Exhibit_C_me]

McCants would've got real salty if Miko would've brought up who got better pro stats him or her...😆💯

[@OldM4nWolf]

Noooooo 😂

[@FatherKen]

she should’ve

[@wavy346]

She did

[@laughandlaughagain590]

She did though when she kept saying she was always the best player on her team

[@jimmykang6347]

She never played at the highest level tho.

[@chikowashere]

Shaq has said multiple times that Derek Fisher was the leader on those unstoppable Lakers teams. Not Bean, not Shaq, but Fish. He said it himself. End of discussion.

[@jay_marley_mallz7350]

If Rashad's purpose is to paint himself to be the villain on this show I think he's doing a very good job and he should own it every episode 😂😂😂

[@kingdoobie4173]

I damn near never agree with that guy. But he’s horrible takes and his ability to piss people off is gold. That’s why I like watching him on the podcast 😂

[@ajax203showme]

Thinking the same. Hopefully getting paid, b/c of image nightmare.

[@kravon9583]

I literally don't think it's on purpose

[@andrewmays8990]

@@kingdoobie4173your right I listen to podcast in my car when I saw dude wears a Crown I stopped taking him seriously

[@CREEDO.]

factsssssss@@kingdoobie4173

[@mylifepoetic]

Grown man with a crown on his head who has issues with showing emotion. DEFINITELY not the most intelligent one for a discussion.

[@chuckeKingCarter]

Huh

[@Bigdic420]

You crying about another man homosexual shit

[@soar1091]

hahahahhaaaaaa

[@mylifepoetic]

@@chuckeKingCarter If I had some yellow cups I'm sure you would understand better, but how's this: A man that CLEARLY has issues defining manhood and is LITERALLY wearing a crown on his head...is not coming from an emotionally stable, intelligent, rational place of thinking to express views. Hence his IRRATIONAL, HIGHLY EMOTIONAL, and ignorant behavior.

[@laughandlaughagain590]

Dawg 😂😂

[@Stanley_Fields]

Rashad was down 40 with 2 mins to go and still determined to win! 😂

[@blackcurlmagicgrey-sloan8640]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Robrr89]

By his definition, that makes him a leader 😂

[@TheDominiqueBallou]

Ended up losing by 60 😂😂😂

[@Whoareyounow1]

😂😂😂😂😂 ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️

[@KL-xe5ec]

​@Robrr89 if you're the best player then you are the defacto leader on the court (that's the most important place)... Timmy was the leader and he was a quiet guy (they had more vocal leaders on the bench... like Tony and pop)

[@andrewclastic2835]

This was hilarious until the second half when I lost 50 brain cells. My face echoed Gil's at the end.

[@jason-vf3kh]

“That’s cap. I diminish you because you’re a girl” Gil needs to be protected at alllllll costs 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@brandonmiller7122]

Love Gil's honesty haha.

[@MrTRUEBEST]

Nobody safe around Gil 😂 don't matter if he hired you or not 😅

[@MurdeezyNPG]

it's apparent Mr. McCants had a problem with leadership

[@Hmmm_B]

Gil is insane bro😂 Swear to God him and Charles Barkley are the only people that do what they do and everyone has no choice but to respect it

[@curtisthomas3179]

Kobe was clearly the leader of his team after Shaq. He lead by his work ethics! He didn’t go to the club and some did! Rashad is making perfect sense when he saying he’s leading by example! He lead on the court but not off the court!

[@YoungJosh615]

Rashad lost the debate when he brought up “I played in the nba “

[@antnyray2290]

He played. And looked confused on court than!😂😂😂😂

[@Exhibit_C_me]

Like we wasn't low key type trash in the NBA...😆💯

[@ajthompson7000]

@@antnyray2290😂😂😂😂 LMAO I’m crying

[@chuckeKingCarter]

Bro avg 15 in the league how?

[@jayinthebx]

​@@chuckeKingCarterhe was nothing more than a role player tho. 😅

[@DoE_734]

I’m going back and forth in between her interview with Entirely NBA and fact checking and I always was on her side in this particular argument but she came at him 1st. She cut him off and then took his point and remixed it. We all know Rashad ain’t the smartest so she outsmarted him of course but she made this argument come about herself. All you gotta do is push a button with him and he gone fall into your trap..

[@avonbarksdale3387]

Rashad just can’t be wrong in his mind and that is the weakest type of man 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Will_kid_cortez]

He is the king of basketball that's why he has the crown 😂

[@sivlizshngrif4858]

@@Will_kid_cortez💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

[@CaliCool91]

He’s one of the most feminine “men” I’ve ever seen lol

[@dibsports]

Weakest dude is accepting what this broad is saying. Simp

[@ISOkeem13]

I mean…. She’s not wrong with what she was saying. Idk wtf that goofy talking about. Being the best player doesn’t make you the leader 😂 Rashad be talking like he was relevant at all. Mf got more known for playing in the big 3 than the NBA

[@thetruth14444]

MACCANT IS ACTUALLY RIGHT YOU HAVE A VOCAL LEADER AND YOU HAVE A STRAIGHT ACTION LEADER THE GREATS ARE BOTH

[@DonVDaArtist]

But he wrong...he never conceded to a vocal player being a leader....as a matter of fact he said the man sitting nxt to him on the bench cant lead him.....he also said the best player is always the leader and that simply is not true

[@imaniharth5416]

I love that y’all clipped this. Forever immortalized in GA history 😂

[@blackrock316]

probably one of the most head scratching heated debates I have seen online so far

[@litecodes3552]

Probably one of the most Head Ass Screaming Debates I’ve ever seen

[@syncerelyhim]

it’s even more perplexing when you watch the full stream.

[@chadblack7674]

@@syncerelyhimfacts

[@Gozol]

Gil’s Arena is the reason why I have a love hate relationship with uneducated black people

[@berny3056]

Mccants logic was so dumb

[@yoterryv]

Watching this after Gil’s live response to Mika.. it hit different 😂

[@stringer2295]

Rashads ability to be so wrong and stand on it is amazing

[@Robedoe]

Dude knew he was wrong in his heart and still just be arguing😂😂😂😂

[@boopmcdoop7841]

Better than his basketball ability fr

[@RariShiesty]

I mean I’ll give him credit he will die on the hill 1000%

[@dioncurtiscurtis3188]

Lmao rashad is sounding mad ignorant

[@fransleyh]

omg! this guy is different.... like theres no way he's that sl.. sigh this has to be scripted :D

[@jo_ghost]

Miko won the argument for sure and homie is SO SALTY LMFAOOOOO

[@MattyVice]

Bro is lost

[@GrimReaper-xg3jo]

U cant be serious miko never went pro how u gna tell a pro hes wrong when hes been through it

[@blackandbuff316]

Look, when Doc won his title in 83, Moses Malone was the best player. But you best believe Doc was the leader of the team! When Magic and Kareem played together, the last 3 titles Magic was the best player, but Kareem was ALWAYS the leader. That's what he was trying to say.

[@harrissr.615]

and her point was there can be multiple leaders in a locker room which is true.

[@peaceful344]

I think Miko was spot on. They would've done better to first define what exactly a leader is and what attributes make them a leader. A leader typically motivates, influences, provides guidance and can resolve problems. You don't have to be the best player on the team to do that. Prime example is when Durant was with the Warriors. He was the best player but Steph was the leader.

[@DonovanMitchell-c3u]

Steph was not the leader

[@brienboyd]

Draymond is the leader. Great point though

[@josephhandy8767]

It’s very simple. A leader has to have followers which is literally all Gil was saying. You can’t be a leader if no one follows you. So KD was never the leader of the Warriors because the players didn’t follow him, they followed Steph and Dray

[@MacNif]

Leaders lead by example

[@outlawjoe5447]

@@brienboydSteph is the leader, Draymond is his messenger

[@rafisafdie1893]

"“It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person.” - Bill Murray You can literally SEE the difference in intelligence between Gilbert/Miko and Rashad.

[@rianeagan2693]

😂😂😂😂 love that quote

[@shootyboo4798]

That's so true

[@shootyboo4798]

I never thought of Rashad being smart

[@GodSon91]

Who’s stupid Nobody on this show are stupid differences of opinion don’t make u stupid

[@KingWiz912]

@@GodSon91You is stupid too 😂

[@johnb.9681]

Hey Gil. Keep Rashad, he is pure comedy gold. Man has a dunce crown!!! If I didn't know he played basketball I would've thought, he was a boxer suffering from CTE...LOL!!!

[@AtlLateNight]

Gil let them go and then agreed with Miko without saying it 😂

[@Whensmahvel1]

LMAO facts

[@Maria_knows_best]

Fr😂😂

[@holdmyweight3597]

Gilbert is like the basketball version of Joe Budden when it comes to this podcasting thing. Edit: Thanks for all the likes!

[@YR_Killem]

Rashad hella insecure you can see it

[@johnwilliams9576]

I also find it funny that he is saying Miko never played at the highest level, so she has an opinion, and because he did, he has perspective, but disregards Allen Iverson saying that Snow was the leader. He also disregards Gil saying that he was never the leader. They played in the NBA, and at a much higher level than he ever did, so by his logic, their perspective carries more weight than his opinion on the matter.

[@bjohnson2u]

Iverson was being humble. Iverson was 100% the leader on the 76ers, put the team on his back, set the tone, and everyone followed. Snow called the plays.

[@BigNuckingFutz]

@@bjohnson2u he also wouldn’t show up to practice. So how tf is he a leader. It sure wasn’t by example. He’s was just one of the best contributors we’ve ever seen! Leaders leads by example. On and off the court!

[@thecdb8537]

​@@BigNuckingFutz100%!!! Which makes McCants wrong again by saying the leader doesn't choose to be the leader. That was the whole point of the "practice" interview. AI was rejecting the leader role people were trying to force on him.

[@PercLacer]

He’s right though is she never played in the WNBA she couldn’t even be the best she clearly wasn’t the best in high school bc she ain’t get drafted plus he had to also be the best which is why he was drafted so someone is lying he might not have been in the nba but she never made it plus she was never drafted so she wasn’t good enough to get there let alone her say pay wnba players at the top make more

[@BigNuckingFutz]

@@PercLacer the best basketball players aren’t in the wnba, women sports don’t pay enough, the best players are where the money is, not the wnba 😂 men and women sports aren’t the same at all, not even close, so this take isn’t good at all

[@Dman4901]

A simple..."i can respect that" "we can agree to disagree"😂😂😂😂 from mccants would have gone a long way😂😂

[@OldM4nWolf]

Tru 😂

[@soar1091]

Also we could bring facts around the nba of how many teams best player is not the leader

[@dbuckner92]

Facts 😂

[@aj2468]

100% he started off losing and kept making worse points as he kept talking 😂

[@SwampSnacks]

You’re 100% right lol but the fact that he will never say that is the reason he’s on the show 😂

[@NODAYZOFFDMV]

She said he dont even like black girls 😂😂😂😂

[@terrencewilliams4355]

And that's when Gil should of reigned this in because now it's outside of basketball instead of instigating it further.

[@Hxpemare]

He ain deny it

[@Hxpemare]

She got beautiful skin tho I would of took that date

[@the3rdone813]

I ain't like how she kept getting personal doe lol

[@Drizzy2tyme]

Sean may and Raymond Felton was the leaders on the unc team Rashad was the best shooter that’s it . This dude is living a dam good dream

[@damiane1015]

For the record…you do NOT need to be the best player on the team to be THE leader of the team.

[@tonygramz3578]

The role of a leader is determined by your level of respect no one follows someone they don’t respect no matter how talented you are

[@curtisjefferson778]

this is true and usually in sports better yet team sport the best guy on the team will get that respect because the guys around him or her understand what it means to be very good at that said sport if we are down by 2 with 3 secs to go im not looking for haslim to "lead' us to victory im looking for the best guy we have available to bring us home and in team sports thats your leader becuase you go as they go your following them

[@tonygramz3578]

@@curtisjefferson778 that’s a different type of leader tho that’s an on the court leader you also have locker room leaders who are an extension of the coach

[@MrDock808]

Say it LOUDER for the people in the back!

[@JasonFlemingMusic]

I agree with this BUT can’t someone’s talent, skill, performance lead to respect on its own

[@tonygramz3578]

@@JasonFlemingMusic to an extent yo character also has a lot to do with it you can be talented af and be shitty leader

[@Bheezy999]

I don't think McCants has ever heard another person's take and said, "Hmm that's a good point, I see what you're saying."

[@newagain9964]

No grown man (or child) that wears a crown on their head is gonna be reasonable or sensible.

[@CheckBallUp]

You do realize that’s that literally Gilbert …………..LITERALLY. wtf do y’all be watching and hearing ?????!!

[@christiangil2591]

Rashad in a “dumbest man in the world” contest with himself every episode 😂😂

[@robertmosley1857]

Miko was right, y'all can complain about her any other time, but she was right in this situation.

[@ecentric0swagg]

I agree she was right but she was also being an agitator.

[@dominoowens5116]

Nahh they both had a point

[@LawPoppy]

@@dominoowens5116 nah.... she won

[@YunggMann]

Rashad was right tho the best player plays good the team is good if he’s not hoopin the team not good they go where he goes that’s the leader

[@richardmatthews2807]

@@YunggMannit takes a team to win in a team sport Beal was dropping 30 and still losing so that mean he got to be a bad leader since they wasn’t winning as him the best player

[@jumpman5150]

Rashad knew he was wrong but his pride wouldn’t let that man get what they were saying. That man a different kind of special. 😅

[@dc6953]

Steph and Draymond is a perfect example of Miko argument. Why is everyone acting clueless

[@demetriusbrown6229]

!!!!!!

[@echoredd2935]

That prove his point it’s not Draymond team it’s Steph team Draymond just the vocal guy

[@pp5518]

@@echoredd2935but draymond is also a leader

[@zerevv]

the other one is 2019 raptors kawhi definitely the best player but the leader is obviously kyle big booty lowry

[@stacksl5010]

Melo on nuggets, Chauncey was the leader

[@Adizzle193]

Just because Rashad comes across as an a hole doesn't mean he's wrong, the best player on a team is the leader, that whole Eric Snow was the leader of the 6ers is Total bs, A I was the leader by far, you've never seen Snow just get off the bench and check his self in the game when he wanted to A.I did that multiple times without Larry Brown saying a word, only the leader came even think of doing that, Kobe Bryant, MJ, LeBron ect, Rashad was speaking facts Miko was in her emotions just like women do, sorry not sorry ladies

[@CheerioTV]

Miko was 100% right.

[@southernflavamaker]

How are there multiple leaders on a team....explain that for me im lost....there are captains and co captains but there's 1 captain?

[@sven4six]

@@southernflavamakerbasketball don’t really pick Captains. Usually the best player and the vocal leader share similar but different responsibilities. different methods but same goal

[@southernflavamaker]

@@sven4six i know that shit but a captain is a leader, no? Same mfn job? I know field sports use the term captain

[@Tumorcoach]

@@southernflavamakerI’m pretty sure you got a low iq so no matter what anyone says you won’t understand

[@staurusisland6637]

TRUTH 👊🏿💪🏿🙏🏿🤴🏿

[@EnervatedCowboysFan]

Rashad started strong then went down hill in the blink of an eye 😂🤦🏾‍♂️

[@christopherblake2588]

Miko interrupted him and disrupted his thought process.

[@SCOOBYGD]

That's usually how it goes.

[@brianwinesberry4651]

Kinda like his career. 😂😂

[@newagain9964]

He lost as soon as he dismissed her competitive/pro career.

[@achildnamedhotchick1739]

@@christopherblake2588all she did was ask him a question he was going nowhere

[@prestonearle5607]

What’s crazy is McCants isn’t wrong in this instance. The best player is the leader because everything falls on them as the Franchise player

[@skillz78]

Miko really wanted to say “Mccants you were trash in the NBA, what you know about leading? You never followed one.”

[@_jsrmrz]

I love this program because of how raw and real it gets.. but some sort of mediation had to take place here. Got way too personal and just turned into baseless arguing. Egos will drive a good thing down. Do better.

[@JJ2sik]

I like that they let them just be real and get out their frustrations. That’s Gil’s Arena.

[@_jsrmrz]

@@JJ2sik 100%. the first sentence of my comment says that. this one just felt more personal than anything I guess.

[@johnathansolomon149]

Facts ..dude with the laptop just be sitting there just to ask questions that’s it gill is gill he gone be messy but as men they should’ve stepped in and told dude he was wrong when he got personal on top of being wrong about the question

[@da11king]

​@@johnathansolomon149I feel they both were wrong at some point. I bet they hugged it out after the show😊

[@chiderahogbozor1722]

“You don’t believe in his championships?” McCants has a point however there are multiple types of leadership. He’s referring to the head honcho of a team. I like how he referred to Gilbert as the leader because he was THE GUY for the Wizards and everyone knew it. The guy who the team won’t win without. That leadership can be toxic because an ego has been built by the head huncho because he know he’s him but in terms of approach he does not relay it the best way therefore guys will choose not to follow.

[@texrex3]

There’s a context in which “I played, you didn’t” matters, and this discussion wasn’t it. Leadership is a quality that transcends sports, and Rashad became a contrarian instead of the expert by the end of this chat.

[@knbrodiex538]

Well I’m with rashaad on this I would listen to his perspective welllll before I listen to advice from miko who played division 2 👀

[@darrellanderson7690]

@@knbrodiex538how does the division matter? It’s D2 stars in the league with better careers than Rashad by a mile. That was him being insecure by saying that I think

[@knbrodiex538]

@@darrellanderson7690 the fact you’re asking if divisions matter shows you didn’t play basketball and if you did you didnt play past high school. How tf would a NBA player be hurt by someone who never played at the highest level yall just dick riding the female for nothing no one in the basketball world knows her they all know rashaad mccants. You can’t name no D2 players in his era that were better than him stop it

[@knbrodiex538]

@@darrellanderson7690 just a fyi she was the insecure one once he said she played D2 and couldn’t even make it to the WNBA

[@Nyechay]

But you can be a leader at any level, so the level she played at is irrelevant. We tellin our kids in youth sports to be leaders of their team at 10-11 yrs old. Being a leader is a quality within a person, not the level of play a person has experienced

[@ZaWrldo]

Telling Gil he's wrong when he said verbatim "I was the best player but never the leader" is crazy. I think Rashad completely missed that a great leader also knows how to follow because they understand they dont know everything

[@ShowtimeMari_]

You missed the whole point bro. Whether Gil assumed his role as the leader … he was the leader. The team is going to follow him. What is so hard to comprehend about that.

[@fredoinhisbag]

@@ShowtimeMari_he wasn’t the leader tho. Being the best player doesn’t always equate to being the leader. Lebron is a special case because he’s the best player AND he knows how to lead his team.

[@ShowtimeMari_]

@@fredoinhisbag you missed it … again.

[@christopherblake2588]

Knowing how to lead, not leading and people still looking at you as the leader are three different viewpoints. You can be a bad leader, but if the games on the line, who is everyone looking towards? Who is the media interviewing and holding the most weight of their opinion? The best player is considered the leader.

[@ShowtimeMari_]

@@christopherblake2588 thank you bro , it CC seems like common sense to me … even as a high schooler playing sports the best player is always the leader you don’t choose that responsibility… the person who chooses his own leadership is always the scrub nobody listens to

[@jasonhuynh8561]

Watching this made me lose brain cells from how Rashad handle this. When he’s proven wrong, he uses defense mechanism, like “do you not understand me” or he’ll be like an immature individual. I love when Gilbert have an example of a leader using cups to demonstrate Rashad slow brain

[@RicoSoprano_]

That nigga can’t never be wrong and turns into a fucking 4 year old child

[@AyoKilla]

How is he wrong. Y’all have never been on his level.

[@dioncurtiscurtis3188]

@@AyoKilla lmao stfu plz. He’s not on our level mentally . Only stupid mf defend stupid mfs

[@dariuscurry5983]

On god bro she sayin dumb shi like you wasnt the best player as if the nba dont consist of all the best players

[@dariuscurry5983]

She literally aint even play in the wnba

[@sindilacion]

Miko said some crazy stuff but she's not wrong. Example the warriors with draymond and iggy, celtics with marcus smart , 76ers with Jimmy, heat with Udonis

[@dhaynes325]

Miko was right on this show. McCants is in his feelings as usual

[@made_u_LookTV]

Yet she attacked his career n his personal accomplishments… but she not in her feelings 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@kevlamar6613]

He only likes white puzzy... yeah HE was in his feelings

[@delayedits1239]

@@made_u_LookTV he attacked her first lmao and hes a grown man

[@trafinister4902]

😂😂😂

[@made_u_LookTV]

@@delayedits1239 he asked her what level of basketball she played on not insult her like she did him… all she kept saying is what most women say “I feel” yadda yadda….

[@MizIzLivin]

The Amount Of Insecurity He Displays On A Regular Basis Is Unfathomable. That Man Is Battling Real Demons.

[@Robedoe]

The look on his face just tells you that he know he wrong but he went too far to admit it😂

[@MizIzLivin]

@@Robedoe Voice Starts Cracking… He’s Looking For The Producers To Bail Him Out… It Gets So Sad Where He Actually Tells Others To Listen To THEMSELVES As If He’s Making Solid Points And Everyone Else Is Crazy. He’s A Weak Debater… He Can’t Stay On Topic Without Trying To Throw Digs. I Hope He Gets Some Serious Help.

[@4erickg]

This podcasting Shìt not for him bro 😂

[@blackcurlmagicgrey-sloan8640]

he definitely needs to let out a good cry, especially considering he claims he never does

[@starboyty4245]

Yall dont play basketball shut up its a difference between the vocalist on the team n the leader

[@Vinnyhiphop732]

Gotta love how Josiah and gil became tennis fans during this😂

[@christopherblake2588]

Original Question: Is it the best players responsibility to be the leader of the team. Yes, yes it is.

[@YoungJosh615]

Don’t forget he still salty about her cooking him about his fake Jordans 🥴

[@FatherKen]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@kaptainbambino]

Facts

[@blizz1004]

Factzzzz 😢😢😢😢😢

[@newera5238]

A Leader is a Leader, plain and simple. It doesn’t matter NBA, Warehouse, Military, ECT. No matter rank or position, if people respect you, they will follow.

[@marcc.5535]

FACTS!

[@NOCALGooN916]

Thank u sir

[@Icandecidedotorg]

Being a leader is a character trait. U said it right.

[@tnox219]

Real life ain't basketball man. Don't work like that in basketball. You may have good examples all over the team, but your best two players are your leaders. No question! You only go as far as they take you. If they're not good leaders then that's where the team falls. We see it all over the NBA.

[@newera5238]

@@tnox219 This concept has worked on all levels, I’m speaking from experience. But I’ll say we agree to disagree, that’s my take. Hope all is well💯.

[@sincity003]

Gilbert is actually the perfect example of how the best player on a team doesn't mean he's the only leader of the team, so Rashad is wrong there. However, Gil was one of leaders on the Wizards because all the young guys followed and wanted to be like him.

[@shido1716]

I can see a point for both sides but rashads point is stronger… there can be a guy who rallies the troops who people can get energized by and learn from… but at the end of the day there is only one Julius Cesar who everyone will listen to and drop everything that someone else said…so ultimately there’s only one leader…

[@xcool3yx538]

He’s not saying the vocalist can’t lead at times what he’s saying is the team has 1 person that EVERYONE will listen too INCLUDING the vocalist. Green will talk in every huddle and the team will listen but I bet the moment Curry says no just feed me nothing else is said from that point cause Curry is the best at leading the team to a victory.

[@hriversdotcom]

Exactly, and that's a perfect example how all LEADERS are not good. And that's where management has to get rid of that leader because he's leading the franchise in a bad direction.

[@MrOBJECTIVETRUTH]

Real question is… who is the leader Kobe Bryant? Or Derek Fischer?

[@MrOBJECTIVETRUTH]

@@youngju8494 so rashad was right

[@Hkemp81]

MIko started the hating off by double disagreeing with MCcants!

[@kovoskywindom5974]

Gil just sitting back letting them go at it. Laughing hard inside. He should've stopped it.😂😂😂

[@mambamentality5875]

He knew it was a potential viral moment. Gotta let it cook.

[@kovoskywindom5974]

@mambamentality5875 In my opinion it had cooked enough. Especially, when they started taking jugular shots but Gil tried to step in then. That's why he suggested just go out on a date.

[@mylifeyourentertainment]

She’s right. I was a leader on my college football team & wasn’t the best player. The team gravitated towards me on & off the field.

[@bayscit]

🫡

[@sportsguy25]

nah bro u was a vocal guy 😂

[@mylifeyourentertainment]

@@sportsguy25 to McCants point I wasn’t. People saw how I led without trying to lead. So in that since they both are right

[@AyoKilla]

You was not the leader

[@msr187]

​@@sportsguy25😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@NoBlasphemyNetwork]

Yo Rashad saying to Gil “this is your work” referring to Miko is mad wild 😂😂😂

[@nasiergayle8421]

I thought I was the only one who caught that 😂

[@Donn_G]

That's how niggas talk , fuck all the PC shit 😂

[@caprice3509]

@@nasiergayle8421facts

[@bricito]

Lol he violated hahahahahaha she said “who work am I?”

[@BroCoolFire]

Lol I missed that 🤣

[@mediacritic4518]

He’s right she just argumentative

[@jumpman5150]

Gil funny as hell. “Underdog gone pay for it!” 💀 😂

[@mfiveeeee]

McCants have some of the craziest takes I've ever heard

[@jordanmt007]

A couple takeaways: 1. Lost a lot of respect for Rashad because although Miko started the personals, he aired out dirty laundry by alleging something between her and Gil. Also, Rashad clearly didn’t show professionalism and maturity after the dispute by shutting down and invalidating what Miko said after. 2. It took WAY too long for Gil to jump in and say Miko was right. 3. MIKO WAS RIGHT. This MF just wanna hear himself talk.

[@dappa3ten]

You say respect. This the sign of a weak ass negro when continuing to argue with a woman. Especially when he brought up her not playing in WNBA as if euro league isn’t a professional league.

[@versatillion15]

Nah he started the personals at 5:12 when he implied that she didn’t play so she doesn’t know what she’s talking about

[@dennisrradfordjr5411]

When he say something about miko and Gil

[@CM-sd1tw]

McCants started the personals. He basically said her opinion is not valid because she never played in the WNBA

[@JaeDee66]

Ok but she can say repeatedly why would I date him he don’t even like black women ( in black women talk that’s them calling u weak for not putting up with black women) so his shot back was fair cry about it.

[@44bgctp]

"That's Gill's Work" needs to be on a T shirt.

[@KingBerry23]

😂😂😂😂😂😂Lol

[@Vinnyhiphop732]

😂😂😂Mccants is shot tf out

[@djkappalott93]

Miko Handled That Well.

[@christianhubaker4199]

Rashad is absolutely terrible bc he gets in his feelings while being wrong. Bad troll and teammate

[@masteroneal]

I rock with McCants, but bro was in the wilderness on this one.

[@theoriginaltroll388]

😂😂😂😂 yea he lost when he brought up he played like he was Gil or sumn

[@bestkeptsecret32]

Not the wilderness 😂😂

[@Igotmoneyonmymind]

@@theoriginaltroll388Gil had 3 good years…chill bro

[@domoking6350]

Rashad had a point with the Kobe no matter who u bring in Kobe’s the leader what don’t yaw get lol

[@dropsixteentvtv4149]

Because Kobe actually had leadership qualities. He wasn't just the best player, so ppl followed him. When ppl didn't follow him, he got them off of the team.

[@Animekeensama]

Udonis haslem is a perfect example of not being the best player but still being a leader

[@NOCALGooN916]

He even named him

[@JBC33]

NoT a LeAdEr, He'S a VoCaLiSt.... McCants is one of the dumbest individuals to every speak. Absolutely unbearable

[@MyronMagnus]

WTF😂

[@Tj-mk4do]

He not no damn leader he's a veteran mentor bench warmer ain't lead nobody to nothing 😂

[@Tj-mk4do]

Nobody saying let's be like udonis haslem 😂

[@janmartinez-w1q]

Miko rlly cooked this man lmaoo

[@29krazyk]

How?

[@KidBowsur]

​@@29krazykbecause the idea that you can only be a leader if you're the best is fucking stupid.

[@wilscott7364]

Not really while Rashard argument was somewhat confusing his perspective is better than hers considering he understands the league and mindset of players better

[@TreyDoe]

@@wilscott7364his perspective means nothing because he’s completely wrong.. the best player isn’t automatically the leader

[@thejoke2791]

​@@wilscott7364 He lost the argument.🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@djkappalott93]

I Really Learn So Much From Discussions Like This. I Observe Conversations Like This And Learn How To Dispute In A Healthy Manner Whilst Being Mindful Of My Emotions. I Love The Perspective's Of All Of You.

[@NaturalLemon]

Why Do You Type Like This? Idiot.

[@lauvernchambers7710]

This was far from that

[@djkappalott93]

@@lauvernchambers7710 highly emotional from some, complete poise from others. depends on what you're looking at. :)

[@mattreynolds612]

McCann doesn't share this perspective. And he can't handle a woman as smart as Mika. But it's entertaining AF.

[@thejoke2791]

That dude confused the F outta me.

[@arthurguedes1163]

"He don't even like black girls" is just hilarious

[@AvonAli]

I usually hate women talking hoops. But she held her own. You have to respect when a person says " I was the best player on every team I played on". She played pro. She earned a fan for sure

[@Dipset415]

She was right but she should have got back handed talking reckless she needs to learn her place👌🏿

[@CM-sd1tw]

@@Dipset415back handed for talking reckless? You’re mentally unhinged. McCants started the personal attacks, she finished it.

[@jeramiahpaulino4873]

and overseas women actually were getting paid more at a certain time in the past. that’s why the whole “pay WNBA women more” came along so the WNBA players can stop signing contracts overseas. Some women were playing both overseas and WNBA

[@alexafine5533]

@@Dipset415nigga all she said was she was who he was explaining on her teams and he wasn’t sound like a clown

[@alexafine5533]

⁠@@jeramiahpaulino4873they still are gettin paid more and now they play both that’s why Brittany Griner was in Russia most of em play over seas to that’s why they changed the time the season starts

[@aarongwatson1]

You can tell the only thing Rashad did in his life is play ball. He’s so unaware of self it’s crazy. From the POVs he has to the crown to those shirts he’s completely wrapped around himself.

[@stevelifs]

Damn I feel bad for Rashad. Dealing with these morons. He made a clear statement point everything easy to follow. They Gil did some dumb shit. N the women was just chirping like a parrot. So annoying. U lead by example very simple.

[@gazanever6291]

Wrong. You CAN lead by example. Did James Harden lead by partying, pouting, and giving minimal effort on defense? Morons apparently attract each other.

[@marcusgonzales30]

I’ve never seen someone fight so hard to not be wrong 😂, why can’t Rashad just admit he wrong.

[@Hotobu]

Rashard argues like a woman.

[@el84oro]

cos he really isnt

[@BroCoolFire]

Cause he not bish

[@zacharymorris803]

The best player isn't not always the leader like he said are yall slow lmao...lebron was literally a 2 time MVP and the best player in the world and WADE was the leader..KD was the best player on Warriors amd yet Curry and Draymond were the leaders

[@KingG-th6mk]

Just say you like miko you knight so save her

[@TheTopPromoterNetwork]

He’s speaking on how it is in the nba if you haven’t played at that level you might not understand what he’s saying

[@edsonsumbana7209]

Gilberto takin a sip in the middle of the argument is a classic