Gil's Arena's EXPLOSIVE Response To Stephen A Smith

Gil's Arena's EXPLOSIVE Response To Stephen A Smith as Gilbert Arenas and Rashad McCants Respond to Stephen A's ludicrous take that Kobe Bryant doesnt belong in the GOAT conversation with LeBron James and Michael Jordan.
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[@ItsTheJourney24]

A lot of disrespect when Kobe was here and a lot of fake love when he’s gone. I’ll leave that there. RIP Bean 💜💛

[@greychannel5963]

Facts

[@NapoleonSoares]

Kobe Bryant the dude after basketball was an awesome man. Kobe Bryant the player on the floor was an absolute killer. But Kobe Bryant the dude while he was a laker (at least in the middle of his career) was psycopathic in his expectations of teammates and was legitimately dealing with some legal stuff that wasnt create. You can appreciate his talent and be sad that he's gone and still be realistic about who he was when he was actually here.

[@CoachQ773]

Real talk

[@ckharper594]

A lot of disrespect to lebron also

[@reachllnx3954]

Yup that’s the truth

[@niallmcdonnell5635]

Maccants really said nothing for 5 minutes.

[@starz1hunnid]

Not a damn thing, lol

[@ReactNotion]

Just feelings and emotions

[@alexxallert412]

Open your ears

[@alexxallert412]

​@@ReactNotionhow??

[@Thedeso18]

Aw. You must wasn’t listening for 5 minutes? 💀

[@therealfinancipation]

On an Olympic team with Bron, Wade, Carmelo and Bosh in their primes They all differed to Kobe RIP Goat

[@ctbcardinal]

End of story..

[@BlackPanther-nv2dy]

He didn't lead the team in scoring

[@shaadwehfirstlady4498]

Kobe was like the Last Player who upgraded his game year after year...

[@OnnaMissionBoxing]

Huh ?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@bobbybacland4222]

What?

[@hennyspiderman9974]

Maaaan stop lmao, yall Kobe dickeaters just be chatting 😂😂😂

[@youngnola3]

Lies

[@DetroitLionsVillainFan]

Agree…

[@_Kilauea]

You can’t have a logical conversation with someone when emotion overrides the thought process.

[@jeromec1983]

Did you watch SAS

[@Cheezkrispies131]

SAS was just speaking factually and Mccants is acting like a baby about it lol, it’s like he can’t accept that Kobe just isn’t a top 2 player of all time

[@deeswagg21]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@Cheezkrispies131sas was speaking facts? this whole convo is subjective…who tf is Stephen a to act like iverson opinion is completely invalid 😂 That’s ur opinion he isn’t the greatest but acting like it’s just disrespectful is disrespectful

[@sumnahlennon5449]

​@@deeswagg21Steph was just debating Iverson the same way he debates Shannon (who he respects.) He didnt insult their actual character. SAS and Shannon go back and forth every day on this topic. They respect each other.

[@PikeRunner6]

@@sumnahlennon5449stop replying to idiots I had to learn that lesson myself

[@joshuagarcia662]

Respect for this man speaking up for KOBE… we appreciate you bro! 🫡

[@BryantAnderson-lb4pg]

respect but my dude with the Crown on a big point they all did and I don't even care about it to be honest

[@metalmacabre9991]

Agreed! Out of all the dumb takes that comes out of his mouth, he really spoke some good stuff here.

[@ccdccd8615]

GOAT debates are good for fans to argue about over a beer. Other than that, it is an honor just to be in the GOAT conversation.

[@JCreactions740]

I agree 10000% with him!! Kobe should be #2 or 1B to Mike!

[@Bob-te3le]

Facts. It's easily Jordan and Kobe the 2 best ever.

[@emack4371]

​@Bob-te3le yall Kobetarts be disrespecting MJ by putting him close to Mike.....no the hell he aint close......get off his u know what he got 3 rings because of Shaq and 2 more because of the refs

[@Bob-te3le]

@@emack4371 LOL. Can't fix stupid. Jordan himself said Kobe was on his level. But you know more right. FOH

[@emack4371]

@@Bob-te3le Clown I am done with u kobetarts......overrated.....he dies and yall want to boast him up....put up his championship stats next to MJ.....that shit ain't close.....he averaged the same amount of points as Austin Croshere.....get of his pecker

[@TheOneAboveAll_]

Watching Kobe, Wade, Melo, Bron all play together at tyw Olympics told me everything. Kobe took it on his back and closed it out.

[@teejaythomas4479]

He didn’t tho 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@youwilin]

@@teejaythomas4479all the players said it themselves you could find it urself 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@TheOneAboveAll_]

@@teejaythomas4479 who did then

[@nafasisbebey6696]

@@teejaythomas4479he did tho… he just did it with his mind tho not with stats. He was clutch when they needed him tho but he was the leader of that squad.

[@patrickielasi4731]

I mean the 2008 Olympics, Wade was the best out of them all though

[@KPSofficial]

I feel blessed to have had the privilege of watching Kobe Bean Bryant play the game at a legendary level. RIP 🐐

[@dusk6159]

Riposa in pace Kobe, il grande Kobe

[@BlackRoyalty_]

He said what everyone is thinking everytime we see a dumb SAS or ESPN analyst discredit Kobe’s legacy.

[@jcv2020]

Just like you should be blessed to watch lebron James. What’s your point

[@bryandungee1029]

Not the goat but I feel you

[@manimal9871]

@@jcv2020 Nobody is talking about him right now, plus many don't like watching his ugly nonskilled game besides casuals.

[@iwjiv]

K Mart said it best based on what he said he heard MJ say, I'll never say I'm the best because all the guys who came before me that I didn’t get to play against. Which is respectful to those that came before you whose shoulders you stand upon.

[@davidn.7767]

GIL IS ALWAYS MOVING THE GOAL POST

[@user-df2cx4ik7v]

Kobe's influence and impact on elevating the skill level of the NBA is never mentioned.

[@derrickevansjr3564]

They never talk about that

[@immafatazn]

no foreal. without kobe, there wouldnt be tatum, kyrie, kawhi, demar, lavine, soo many players man. there’s a saying that he is “your favorite player’s favorite player”. he was the one that got me into basketball and probably y’all too and countless others. even some lesser name players have kobe as their favorite like will barton, and rondae hollis jefferson, who we saw put up a crazy kobe-like performance in fiba

[@j.r.8773]

100 pure 📠

[@El_Fonzo]

😂 it's mention too much

[@derrickevansjr3564]

@@immafatazn all facts. Kobe elevated the league a lot. MJ Kobe and curry is the most influential

[@eddie868]

Mccants, we love you. For loving Kobe, thanks for stepping up my man!

[@godlyform974]

Kobe overrated

[@babyspider99]

And likes to impose himself illegally on women

[@jamirgreen8396]

Get off your knees

[@Johnwilliams11047]

@@godlyform974 clown 🤡 that would be LeBron, Because he put himself in the conversation

[@godlyform974]

@@Johnwilliams11047 he was expected to be in the conversation since he was a teenager the same can’t be said about overrated dead bean

[@ibnjerome8231]

Kobe won 3 with Shaq and 2 BACK TO BACK WITHOUT SHAQ!!!! WHUT!!!! Put Kobe on those Miami teams and he would've won 4 straight!!!!

[@daohezone5176]

Idk bro. He would have to share the ball. That’s not Kobe’s style.

[@Dvwn753]

Put Lebron with prime shaq on those laker teams and Bron woulda won 6 straight

[@LSClubhouse]

⁠@@daohezone5176 most assists for a SG all time before James Harden you sound stupid

[@lowh9330]

Shad thank you whole heartedly THANK YOU

[@tonyt3197]

I really respect what K-Mart said about how players from previous generations just automatically get casted aside for goat comparisons. U can say the game was in its early stages but sometimes u can wonder those players would be in the modern era with all of today’s resources at their disposal

[@sukhsidhu6824]

Only Gen z kids discredit them and call them plumbers. Real hoop fans appreciate all eras

[@masongreen1371]

Nah wondering what they would be like today is pointless. That person doesn’t exist. We judge them on how good the actually were. And way more people overrate older players and put them in the GOAT convo when they really shouldn’t be. Like bill Russell.

[@Mateozz19]

??? Ain't nobody calling the greats a bunch plumbers, we calls their competition plumbers. The greats in the 70s, 80s and 90s were the people with talents that exceeded their generations.@@sukhsidhu6824

[@sukhsidhu6824]

@masongreen1371 What a contradictory comment, lol. You judge them against their peers in their era. If they dominated their era, how can they be overrated.

[@yaboiyiizO]

​@@sukhsidhu6824most underrated comment on KZbin...

[@Dangic23]

Kobe did everything with just the 2 steps rule. Imagine if he could’ve done the 4 steps they do now.

[@penkima4923]

Underrated take.

[@wesmyone9562]

You ain't lying

[@jt9172]

Right he didn't travel to get his points

[@scmarine843]

4? They run like rugby from the 3 point line to dunk it and get sent to the free throw line 😆

[@josephtebar8271]

LeBron is 16-4 against Kobe with the 2 steps rule.

[@enricosands4352]

Thank You Mr. Martin your ABSOLUTE right if your looking at it from what you said,this is silly now to still be having these debates. My last time I ever stop to watch this topic

[@jejuanridgel2144]

Kenyon keeps ALL these conversations on planet earth.😂😂💯🤷🏾‍♂️

[@1mihayes]

I 1000% agree with Kenyon Martin here. It’s not about stats, or rebounds, assists or points, it’s about who was the man who carried the weight of the entire league on his shoulders! At the end of the day that’s MJ, Kobe, and LeBron - period!

[@bretb9206]

what about bird magic, cousy russell lmao

[@LaChrisNola]

​@bretb9206 Bird and Magic needed each other. Mj ran the 90's, kobe was the most recognizable nba player from 2000 to 2009, and Lebron was already almost equal to kobe in that regard by 2008 and now he's the most talked about NBA superstar, period.

[@LaChrisNola]

​@@bretb9206Learn some basketball history my guy lmao

[@loudpack3398]

you mostly right... but stats also tell the story... mj, kobe, and lebron all have stats that backup there play

[@bunchycarter8846]

Facts !

[@pk-xx2si]

gil’s face when mccants talk is pure comedy

[@disguiseddv8ant486]

That dude speaks like a black female. What man say "that's my mans" about another man?

[@mellowman1978]

Yes a priceless look of confusion.

[@sheltonarmstrong3467]

CAUSE IF U PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO WHEN GILS SPEAKS ABOUT KOBE YOU'LL BEGIN TO SEE THE ACTUAL HATE HE HAS FOR THE MAMBA..TALKING THAT SHT ABOUT DROPPING 45,50 ON KOBE BUT NEVER HAD THE NUTS TO GUARD HIM...AND WE ALL KNOW KOBE IS GONNA GUARD THE OTHER TEAMS BEST GUARDS WEATHER HE'S INJURED AND STILL PLAYING OR ITS A BACK TO BACK NIGHT OR WHATEVER !!!!... HE'S COMING FOR SMOKE OFF TOP!!!!

[@robi5192]

cuz she recognizes the idiocy

[@Juicesince88]

He's the shows Kendrick Perkins.

[@casspeterson320]

This is why I like when NBA players talk about basketball it’s never personal

[@Garrrrry5]

NOT STATS NOT TALENT, IT'S THE MENTALITY AND THE INFLUENCE OF THE GAME. PERIOD

[@flapp-jck1226]

“did you just bring Drake into the conversation with Michael Jackson” 😭💔, that reaction was hilarious 🤣

[@abir1125]

It is pretty weird that people say Kobe is the next best thing after Micheal, but still put him 5 or 6 in their top 10s

[@hardwoodthought1213]

It’s not tho, because people who say it do so in a way to make it seem like he’s closest period when really it’s closest in style and skillset. He’s not closest in impact, statistics, accolades, add those and he’s closer to 10th than 2nd

[@iamjoshualanier]

It’s just hate man there’s no way in gods green earth a man whose played with every all star on the 2010 eastern all star team and is 4-10 in team finals , there’s no way you can have the biggest melt down in history and still call yourself the goat , lebron has all the longevity awards that’s cool but when it came down to it Kobe did the best with way worse than lebron most lebron fans are stat junkies

[@hardwoodthought1213]

@@iamjoshualanier LMFAO Do you know how many seasons Kobe had a teammate make All-NBA? 14 LeBron? 4 😂 The help isn’t close

[@googlee8882]

They're not saying closest as in ranking, they mean play style. But your overall ranking has be a mix of your abilities showcased and your achievements. It's not just one thing. And those ppl that rank kobe 5 or 6 most likely think there are 4 to 5 players who have a better resume mixed with ability

[@Eastsiderep40]

Play styles he’s the next Michael Jordan period! No ifs ands or buts about it. But overall stats, MVPs, finals MVPs, impact, he’s not the next MJ.

[@M-Cherian]

I agree with Martin. This debate is subjective, and it makes more sense to base the best player on the era they played - especially given how much the game has changed, and continues to evolve. The rules have changed so much this can't be objectively measured. And everyone is entitled to their opinion.

[@conradgil621]

Yes their goats in their Era and le Bron is not in his 10 years in a row and only won 3 with help

[@eroccha]

That's true. It would be like comparing baseball to softball players. Jordan is Aaron Judge and LeBron is some girl throwing under hand. You can't really say who is better.

[@virgilconner7884]

Rashad got emotional over Bean you can tell he got teary eyed, he loved Kobe💙🐍

[@ashtonkusher433]

Mccants started off making sense then went all the way left 😂

[@Daveyjdigital]

yea he did lol

[@DPSUB10]

As usual when the testosterone comes thru the logic exits the building 😅

[@fresh2def23231]

Nah he made all.the sense

[@winstonwinston2703]

Lol he definitely let Gil move the goal post. He had a valid point in the beginning

[@Robedoe]

@@winstonwinston2703all Gil was saying is if it’s already determined it’s Lebron and Jordan at the top 2, nobody is gonna mention the 3rd in the goat debate.. which is obvious lmao.

[@take_a_quaalude6948]

What Kenyan said is how the goat convo should be. Generational. Each generation of basketball had their GOAT . Wilt, Bill Russ, Dr J, Larry B, MJ, KB, LBJ. Each the best in their generation.

[@youwilin]

It is a bit unfair to compare different times, Kobe & Bron were in most part the same time but fr if there was no MJ Kareem Magic Bird Wilt, do you think players from 60s to now would’ve have the same career with nobody to look at or chase? Everybody kind of models or plays the game based off of the players before them 💭

[@freelightyear]

Going to be saying Giannis' name after LBJ for this generation

[@charlesparker4850]

That is not true, there was not a GOAT until the league/media crowned MJ!!??

[@take_a_quaalude6948]

@@charlesparker4850 just because the media came up with GOAT title later doesn’t mean there wasn’t goats before.

[@westside8514]

@@youwilinKOBE WAS IN THE 2000’s GENERATION BRON WAS IN THE 2010’S

[@MrPP34truth]

Kobe finals record is 5-2 while LeBron is 4-6. At the end of the day basketball is about winning and honestly if you put a blindfold on me and say pick a player I’m taking Kobe since I know I can count on him to carry me to close out games.

[@kareem.10]

LeBron is the best closer the game has ever seen. Analysts have already run the stats. Kobe and Jordan had Hall of Fame coaches and played for great organizations. Lebron is the GOAT. Lastly, basketball isn't just about winning. If that's the case then, fans shouldn't support franchises with no shot of winning a chip in any given season. But they do, because basketball means much more to people and the franchise owners than just winning. Ask Mark Cuban.

[@BIGGDUDE42]

Kobe couldn't take that many trash Cleveland teams for the finals, like Lebron did. With only 7 final appearances, he could be counted on for about 1/3 of his career.

[@aasapjtv9644]

Listen to what you just said Kobe been to the finals 7 times. Lebron been to the finals 10 times. And if you actually have watched those finals lebron can only carry them so far

[@MrPP34truth]

⁠@@BIGGDUDE42 Kobe could have gone to more Finals than LeBron if he played in a trash Eastern Conference at the time. Also only time LeBron ever won is when he had at least two other hall of famers on his team. Kobe only needed 1.

[@kareem.10]

@@MrPP34truth We can only judge who's the GOAT by real outcomes: not by hypotheticals. Otherwise, it gets too subjective. Lebron owns Kobe and MJ in career stats and most per game stats and advanced metrics. The only advantage they have over LeBron is chips. But, Bill Russell and Kareem do over MJ and Kobe. But y'all discount that even as you rest your case on chips. Bill Russell has so many championships that he should be the GOAT if that's the strongest point in your argument. Kareem's overall basketball career, with the championships and the stats should make him #2. Heck, Robert Horry should be top 5 in the conversation with 7 chips.

[@DatFlyTy22]

This THE ONLY TIME I 1000 percent agree…

[@mauricejenkins3250]

how is disrespectful to his family and legacy by not having him top 2?

[@egchi14]

Nothing iswrong with not havin him top two. Problem is when people make it seem like it’s disrespectful for him to be even in that conversation when there was a period he was 100% in it.

[@winteriscoming5081]

He's not including the family bruh. Look at their skills and how they played. Even players would say kobe is better than lebron.

[@keithjupiter]

@@winteriscoming5081just because you play sexier don’t make you better clown 🤡 stone cold wasn’t the prettiest wrestler he still the greatest rice wasn’t the sexiest receiver he still the best ever you a joke lebron better face it clown 🤡

[@jamiethorpe5431]

@@winteriscoming5081 correction: One handful of players

[@cordarylleverson7195]

Because it’s not true . He’s tied wherever Jordan is

[@edtechspecialist]

KMart blowing smoke rings while McCants pleads to Gil is next level funny.

[@dusk6159]

You already know the faces he would like to make

[@khanf13]

LMAO exactllly Kmart lowkey LOL'd when they was talkling about Kobe and Micheal sexy girlls and llebron a ugly one LLMAO

[@kenmyers4886]

I just laughed at that 😂

[@dmoney0505]

Always generational facts and levels!!!

[@kingunda5013]

I was wrong about Rashad. Thank you for defending the legacy of my personal GOAT, the late great eight two-four, Kobe Bean.

[@dremac33]

Maybe I'm the odd man out, but it's pointless to compare greats. I'm too busy admiring the greatness of these legends. Grown ass men get into their feelings simply because someone doesn't agree with what they feel...

[@MrJ908]

💯

[@rdgpats]

It’s all for engagement and for something to talk about

[@zowalk321]

Agreed. Most of these guys never played against each other in their prime. Some guys never played each other at all. Just give respect to the greats.

[@DP28314]

Agreed

[@Bj-kb8lr]

You’re right. Still fun barber shop talk tho

[@onthe80omw]

Gilbert said it himself “Kobe is the best player I’ve ever seen”

[@dusk6159]

Didn't play against Jordan with a Bulls jersey then, and against the Cavs Lebron that wasn't the young one who already banished him to hell in the Playoffs with his talk and mental game.

[@ziginaigra]

didnt he saw mj or bird lol

[@SirrLamee]

So if Lameo ball says the best player he’s ever seen is Lebron that makes Lebron the goat? If five years in the future Ja Morant says the best player he’s ever seen is Luka does that make Luka the goat now? This argument is extremely baseless. The literal only way for this argument to be logical is for an all time great to play every season of the nba from first nba season to now, and even then that doesn’t make the argument good

[@sumnahlennon5449]

Gil Arenas says Lebron is #1, MJ is #3. Arenas doesnt have Kobe in his top 5.

[@SDesWriter]

@@sumnahlennon5449 Gil has a bug up his ass about Jordan. It has to do with how mediocre he was as a player while Jordan was still playing. The guy only broke 20 four times in his career. Jordan was over 30 his rookie season. Gil is a b'tch

[@troydilworth8789]

Listening to Gil is like being inside of a HEADACHE 💥

[@nj1way898]

Gill Hilarious " so when your 3rd and 4th you aren't in the conversation anymore hahahah

[@gabb815]

G.O.A.Ts of each decade…. 1960s: Russell 1970s: Kareem 1980s: Magic & Bird 1990s: MJ 2000s: Kobe 2010s: Lebron

[@kennylafortune63]

How is Kobe above duncan?

[@moncler5691]

How is lebron above Kawhi. Ok bud

[@Dontdodat251]

​@@moncler5691never talk sports again

[@Dipset415]

Naw 2010’s is curry my G with KD being the best scorer and Lebron having the most media coverage 💯

[@Yucki3]

@@moncler5691lmao did u watch the game last night

[@NJN55]

This is probably mccants best take and ppl still hate 😭 there is no goat , there’s amazing players that carried the game we love . The fact we try to pick and choose one person for a game that has 30 team and over 75 years is sad . Big ups to the greats and RIP KOBE

[@alexplum8736]

Your comment should have been highlighted

[@stinkylovecake]

Lmao

[@mosely25]

Facts!

[@jvr6809]

Kobe was great but he aint in the goat debate

[@derekpcollier8710]

It just game ever thing fix

[@fambamfamily1013]

i love it when K Mart is chilling and making smoke rings ahahaha

[@blacklion7321]

Agreed 💯…drop the mike….

[@johanntate219]

Actually Muhammad Ali coined the rearm “Greatest of all time” he used to say it in the ring. “I’m the greatest of all times” go check y’all facts that was way before 1990

[@kahlilbrown538]

THANK YOU ! Idk if they didn’t mention that cause they were specifically talking about the acronym G.O.A.T but the term it’s self definitely was created by Ali

[@donut3475]

Gilbert saying “that’s one person” then not applying it to himself is hilarious

[@NotEnoughHobbies]

Because most people share Gil's opinion and not Kenyon's. You ask 95% of people this question and its Jordan or James with whoever as third. Kenyon not wrong for his opinion but he's in the minority, there is a debate about #1 and he just doesn't want to participate.

[@uponthisrock1555]

Prime example of circular conversation

[@wesmyone9562]

Moving the goalpost to get his way, is Gil's modus operandi🤷🏿‍♂️

[@wesmyone9562]

@@NotEnoughHobbies So if the majority says something, that means it's automatically true🤨? Come on, now😒...

[@NotEnoughHobbies]

​@@wesmyone9562 There is no true or false because you're dealing with human players and human critics, both from different eras of basketball. Kenyon is right about that. But there is consensus. You can say "given these arbitrary criteria, x person is best" and Kenyon/Rashad are using criteria that most people don't use so their opinion is not valid. I think that's Gil's point. They working on completely different criteria.

[@superwingstoys8931]

What Re those glasses called I need those please let me know

[@jayhollow8808]

‼️‼️‼️ A lot of facts being said

[@troybrookshire1842]

LMFAOO Kenyon Martin blowing O’s

[@realouttasight]

lmaoooo

[@godschosenme]

Realest words they ever spoke. Kobe was that guy. Point blank period!

[@KeepItReal213]

Still not top 3

[@Righteousgenius]

@@KeepItReal213dead Kobe is in the goat convo let some people tell it

[@sipmadeezy_p2819]

That’s a real convo players have Kobe over Lebron but fans and media have Lebron over Kobe…

[@Donn_G]

​@@sipmadeezy_p2819 you can watch plenty of past players say lebron is better. Mfs confuse they favorite with who's better .

[@anubis3963]

​@@sipmadeezy_p2819your smoking crack if you think kobe is better than lebron and its not close

[@jcgsovereign]

Let's go who is the most exciting player

[@jamalllewis5566]

Well said Kenyon Martin

[@augustv3ryown446]

With respect to Kobe, being deceased doesn't exit you from basketball conversations. That's like saying "Ok, Bill Russell is dead we don't need to bring him up again in these conversations."

[@ricardoalvarez8415]

Kobe bron and MJ are definitely the 3 best of all time. No order.

[@Latino_mamba03]

@@ricardoalvarez8415💯💯💯

[@ThisThatTheThird]

@@ricardoalvarez8415the fact that you feel that way disproves Gils whole point. He’s tryna make it seem like the conversation can’t consist of 3 people, when a lot of people have the conversation and bring up 3 people or even more

[@Bongwater1]

This conversation was hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂 Kobe would be so proud watching this debate 🥲

[@penkima4923]

Kobe knew the history of the game. He wouldn't waste one minute watching this guesswork.

[@KeepItReal213]

Nah he’d be embarrassed at how much of an idiot McCants is when using his name. 🤣

[@jaydatruth81]

@@penkima4923facts

[@novawilson4059]

I doubt it ..

[@GeeZee23]

Kobe would tell these guys to get in the gym. And stop bitching

[@raysellers2653]

Love your words Rashad #STANDONBUSINESSBRO!!

[@damonwylie4501]

Kudos to Kenyon Martin for the gentrification reference, perfect analogy. Maybe he did go to class once in awhile. Lol

[@georgeperry7240]

McCants seem to not understand that a discussion about Kobe's basketball skills has nothing to do with his character.

[@deeswagg21]

I think y’all seem to not understand ppl dismiss him because of character and stuff lol …literally Martin said the same shit

[@thedeezyshow]

@@deeswagg21 we dismissed him from the GOAT debate because he has ONE MVP!!!

[@lorddj9910]

@@deeswagg21those “people”you’re referring to are a very small vocal minority…globally speaking Kobe is beloved damn near everywhere especially in China

[@allmirvela9481]

so Nash has a better goat case? stupid ass argument @@thedeezyshow

[@claude2732]

Man Kobe is extremely big outside USA, Lebron’s popularity and influence is only a tenth of Kobe’s. Lebron is definitely biggest domestically in USA after MJ though.

[@juandufree4309]

Gil: “we as players don’t care about stats, because we played” Also Gil: “He has to pass his resume” Rashad 7 times: “isn’t resume stats?” Gil: “Resume!” 🤣🤣🤣

[@user-gc1wj8tt2p]

Isnt resume awards and chips?

[@Markmaine]

Yea if you were the youngest nba player to play in the playoffs for example, thats part of yo resume, but thats not a statistic

[@wesmyone9562]

Gil couldn't help himself, his back was against the wall, so he moved thr goalpost🤦🏿‍♂️...

[@1990POE]

He answered this. He said Kobe would be #1 and TMac would be up there if we were just going off skill. What differentiates Kobe and T Mac is resume. If T Mac had Kobe’s resume. We would say T Mac was greater Are yall not listening. He also stated that Kobe didn’t get to finish his resume due to injuries

[@godlyform974]

Kobe overrated

[@realouttasight]

LMFAOOO keyon with the O's

[@arvinvillanueva629]

HAHAHAHAHA I LOVE HOW KENYON JUST START SMOKING 😂

[@mrtijani]

What always gets forgotten in the GOAT debate is that "Greatest of all time" means it is a comparison of greatness. Every player mentioned is acknowledged to be great. There are many players who have had great careers. The NBA celebrated their 75 list, and each of them were proud of that accomplishment. The main problem is there can only be one "Greatest of all time", but it definitely doesn’t mean a player is disrespected for being second or third.

[@bananainthetailpipe]

There’s no such thing as a GOAT.

[@iam5688]

@@bananainthetailpipe it's all for entertainment purposes and these people take it religiously

[@iam5688]

@@SuperVario64 facts these people come up with all these reasons on y so and so is the goat and y so and so is number 6 and number 25 like lmao chill.

[@stvnoahc7249]

Yep, the modern media and content creators treat the “goat” like how DBZ treats super saiyans😂

[@davis2k1234]

Your right there is no GOAT debate because it’s MJ and it’s not close to argue anything other is foolish. MJ was being called the best ever before he even won a championship/ after the 1st 3Peat it was just a fact he was the best ever Bobby Knight said he was the best basketball player ever in 1984 before he played a NBA game

[@atwater644]

It was Kobe’s work ethic that I respect 💯. Nobody worked harder than him

[@sportsfan120577]

That means Jordan was more talented because he didn’t have to work as hard.

[@atwater644]

@@sportsfan120577 you sound slow asf.

[@angelos2446]

MJ was more athletic a bit better defender, Kobe was better 3 point shooter, better ball handler and had better footwork, because MJ was more talented athletically doesn't mean he was better overall, Kobe was the most skilled player ever even over Jordan.@@sportsfan120577

[@jb2o09]

McCants knows nothing about work ethic. It’s krazy to call him your brother in blood when you lasted 5 season cuz you couldn’t knock off the goofy shit. Ayo Gil, I think McCants is a bigger bust than Kwame.

[@metalmacabre9991]

​@@sportsfan120577that's true, so Kobe had to practice and work harder to achieve what Jordan did, and he only came up one chip shy of Jordan, and if they had beaten the Celtics in 2008 he would have gotten 2 3peats.

[@forkhead679]

When a person starts hollerin , they're trying to deflect . They realize their argument is sounding stupid . There is a difference between potential & developed talent & potential .

[@ralphdenis3449]

Kenyon Martin is probably the most well rounded thinker... A true throwback. Honest and a critical thinker.💯

[@acebones1971]

I legit be lost when McCants starts talking.

[@iluvcakes19]

I hope you don't feel found when Gil talks.

[@Bob-te3le]

McCants was cooking on a hibachi grill.

[@Nahyoutrippin]

That was a good debate. Coming from actual players that played with him, it’s respected.

[@AtTheHoUse28]

best comment

[@jaimepereda8711]

You know you losing an argument when all you can do it get loud 🤣🤣

[@cattybad]

I’ll never understand why people get so heated when all these debates are based solely on personal opinions.

[@user-zw4zn5jr4f]

I'm over here dying 🤣 trying to count how many times Gil moved that goal post

[@901Made]

I make the same argument Rashid as well if its not about rings then what we talking so then I say if rolls was reversed who the goat Give Lebron the rings and then Kobe the stats who the goat and the goal keep getting pushed

[@gerrytyson857]

He always does

[@wesmyone9562]

You caught that too, right? That was crazy, fo real🤦🏿‍♂️

[@versatillion15]

I feel like mccants was the one moving the goalpost

[@1990POE]

Gil and K mart makes the most sense. Gil is saying it’s a mix of both of stats and skills Mvcants is just going off skill. But then the rest of his players contradicts his logic

[@dazdoukas]

It's so true, all the players that played with Kobe hold him up waaay higher than the media because the stats don't represent what he could do on the court

[@maxseed601]

Exactly! And unfortunately his stats went down after the Achilles. He has a true ppg of 27.9 for career before Achilles

[@angelos2446]

Bro it's even the achilles, Kobe had like broken wrists fingers ankles and knees, he didnt care about stats like Lebron did..@@maxseed601

[@charlesparker4850]

So that is the fukd up eye test, which is biased and subjective??!!!

[@Sho-of6ti]

@@maxseed601injuries is part of the game. If we raise Kobe’s ppg total we will have to do the same for everyone else. We will have to remove Jordans Wizards years. Duncan’s last year where he dealt with injuries. You can’t do that though

[@kingramzy4962]

Stop the cap some of them talk high of him now since he passed. They all show fake love now

[@tbenjamin8348]

mccant : STAT MAN STAT MAN YEA THATS MEEEE 😂😂

[@user-gt6mz9dm3l]

How did Lebron get all those stats with no skills…. Damn why that couldn’t be me.

[@franksaldana8787]

Gilbert's not being able to admit when he's wrong is hilarious

[@ye87]

Because he knows he’s lying but he need that Klutch sports check 😂😂

[@justtwizzey2429]

That's what makes him great!

[@jamarmoffett9368]

i saw this comment before i watched it im like 6 mins in and Gil back peddling like a mf lol

[@jasonvazquez4953]

What was he wrong about? He didn't articulate himself the best but his point was 100% accurate. Kobe isn't the most talented player to ever step on a basketball court, not even close if we're being honest. He also doesn't have the best stats or the most accomplishments. What puts him so high is the resume he built for himself and a combination of all those things. No matter how you look at it though, LeBron has long since surpassed him. Maccants backed himself into a corner with the whole talent trumps all stupidity and that's exactly why he lost the argument. I get that you're all Kobe Stans but he's not in the GOAT debate, he's in the top 10 debate and you could make an argument for top 5, but that's as far as it goes.

[@Sixstonesage]

Yall sound crazy, Gil ain’t wrong and he wasn’t back peddling. That nigga McCants said people that played don’t use stats for the goat debate then turn right around and said Kobe over Jordan because he passed him in scoring all time… nigga what!!?🤣🤣 Gil spent most of his time trying to explain that the goat debate can only be debated between #1 or #2 but whoever you got at 3, unless they are still active , does not have a debate to be the goat. Its not hard to understand

[@dakeithburton5622]

Only thing i hate about it is media was scared to speak Kobe name when he was alive so i gotta respect mccants opinion cause Kobe would’ve been making them calls

[@jesseleeslade6082]

I agree with Kenyon about generational being a good point. But I think Resume = (talent + stat+accomplishmemnts)

[@andrewwhittington5501]

Facts bro

[@warrenwothington3tv]

McCants is 100% accurate. Gil switches narrative mid sentence at all times.

[@wesmyone9562]

Facts

[@cprealone]

Gil never wants to be wrong or lose a debate

[@warrenwothington3tv]

@@cprealone true. Odd behavior.

[@millzbreezy1841]

Facts

[@geneallen8176]

McCants is absolutely wrong and it’s quite sad that he can’t wrap his mind around what is being said. Just because Kobe played like Mike doesn’t make him as great. Using the Chris Brown argument he is similar to Mike but I wouldn’t put him over Prince. I love all 3 of those guys for what they did. mccants is just wrong cause he’s in his feelings.

[@nicknenjay09]

Gil came in saying sports analyst use stats and players don’t. But he is using stats to argue against Kobe being in the top 2. It’s a contradiction that they were trying to point out but Gil just couldn’t grasp that lol

[@9863bsgcdgb]

Accolades are NOT stats.

[@markwhite2709]

Gil just doesn't like Kobe period!

[@Suplicio86]

Gil be talking stupid.

[@standup3686]

He refused to admit that he was doing it. He argues a lot like immature women do. He gets louder, the more wrong he is 😂

[@bigjonah5503]

Gil brain don't work correctly

[@moneymike8318]

Yeeeeee! Preach OG Rashad! Real talk.

[@jwilariousda1st]

Them CyberPunk shades lowkey grew on me by the end of the vid..

[@NumbA04]

Kobe Stop playing basketball when he tore his Achilles, that’s mind- boggling to think that’s when his game slowed down after playing damn near 2 decades. That man was a f*king machine literally the definition of that word, put some respect on that man’s name god rest his soul 🙌🏾🐍 🐍🐍🐍

[@GunninRebel55]

You and McCants cut the crap everybody respects Kobe. 🤦🏽‍♂️🤔

[@westside8514]

@@GunninRebel55Stop trolling

[@macxavier168]

​@@GunninRebel55no they don't

[@terrencejenkins7995]

His name is God not god.

[@rizeagle33]

Doesn't mean there can't be negative things said about him. He was good at basketball but from all accounts wasn't a very good person, but I mean I have never known a rapist be a good person either so.

[@donfelony8162]

Maccants....you won me over with ya kobe stand straight up💪🏿👑🙏🏿💯

[@whatsthedeal9720]

Speak it Kenyon!

[@anthonyhorton8932]

Damn right homie , a real one .rip kobe

[@attainingknowledgeoftruth8348]

While Kobe was alive, at no time did any of these players say Kobe was the 2nd best player ever. These guys are speaking on 100% pure emotion. This is why they constantly say throw stats out when referring to Kobe.

[@derrickhoward1543]

This pure cap. Many players were already saying that. Stop lying and speaking on things you know nothing about.

[@deejones9833]

A billion dollar company not gone make a player with rape allegations #1 or #2 or face of the league and players at that time wasn't big on speaking up now that social media poppin you can finally hear those opinions

[@XEVN7]

Pure lies. I remember the convo being had if Kobe was the goat on THE DAILY. Just say you weren't there and don't know instead making up complete fallacies to seem credible smh This why we in the position we in now. Ppl that don't know shi always muddying the waters

[@caseyweems4210]

The most concentrated cap ever

[@attainingknowledgeoftruth8348]

@@XEVN7, I was there. At no time during Kobe career were other players saying he was GOAT. How can he be goat when 3 of his titles Shaq was the best player on his team? Shaq always said he was better than Kobe until Kobe died. Then he changed the narrative.

[@adamabdallah2604]

Maccant, continue the good work. Don't let them kill Kobe's legacy

[@02nupe]

It’s not killing his legacy to call a spade a spade. All emotion and no metric to back it up. I respect Kobe and he is an all time great, but he NOT in the goat convo. We can just look at the career fg % and you can see the major difference between him and MJ. but he “looks” good playing is the argument and that ain’t legit.

[@tylercanton3836]

@@02nupeyou do know he has a true shooting percentage 56% so he definitely was efficient. I have Mike as the GOAT he’s not better than Jordan but he’s definitely belong in the conversation.

[@simonkanatschnig5352]

Dude is retarded..... mccants was one of my first Favorite players but this dude is a fool man Dude makes almost 0 sense

[@02nupe]

⁠@@tylercanton3836​​⁠here is what I know and not cherry picking to fit a narrative, Kobe is a 44% Fg shooter, 44%. He avg 25, 5rbs and 4 assist for his career. Great numbers, not enough to be in the goat convo. Did you know he ONLY shot 44% from the field?. That is Not efficient by any means.

[@tylercanton3836]

@@02nupe efficiency don’t mean nothing so Deandre Jordan is the GOAT? Since you want to go there why Lebron shoot in the 30s 10-feet and beyond.

[@hugozeledon]

soo true

[@user-ps8np6go6i]

bro i dont understand what maccants saying ahahahaha

[@facelessandnameless]

Kobe played his entire career in the toughest and most competitive conference in NBA history. On top of that he played during the lowest scoring and most defensive focused era in NBA history. And he STILL got those crazy scoring numbers AND won five chips 👌

[@RaynellJamal]

and Bron still passed him up. 👀

[@rafaelmeza725]

​@@RaynellJamal4-6 finals record 🤭🤣😂 🤡👀💯

[@RaynellJamal]

@@rafaelmeza725 and still passed him up. 🤣🤣🤣

[@dmcfail987]

You LeBron fans are delusional ​@@RaynellJamal

[@RaynellJamal]

@@dmcfail987 so are Kobe fans. Thinking he the GOAT. MJ got that spot on 🔒 😂

[@EXPREEED]

He acting like Stephen A. Was attacking his character, saying he was a terrible person. He just ranking the guy.

[@deeswagg21]

Stephen a was acting like it’s disrespectful to have Kobe in the convo tho lol like Kobe wasn’t up there ….acting like iverson was super wrong for his opinion was disrespectful to Kobe game

[@marcusbrady5414]

Yea you saw what you wanted to see if that’s all you took from it

[@sumnahlennon5449]

​@@deeswagg21But Gil Arenas (aka this channel) does not even have Kobe in his top 5.

[@103Mirr]

@@sumnahlennon5449 they all mccants they jus fuccn talkn with no common sense behind there words look at the shirt he got on he really jus want attention an he got it so he finna act out what stephen a said he has always said when kobe was alive never heard mccants ass say shi now kobe dead he standing on buisness

[@VanessaWong-yi5pe]

​@@deeswagg21No. Stephen A Smith said that this is merely a debate show so he has to argue. Mccants said anyone who places Lebron above KD is a fake fan. And more recently, he went on the show to say Kobe has always been better than MJ. Mccants just keeps saying things

[@credodeo-me1wb]

"Resumee!", "stats?", "resume", "stats?"...."statsman, statsman,...." 😂😂😂

[@yannickwillems8523]

My boy gil never disappoint with his mumbling 😂😅😂😅😂

[@TM-ih8pg]

KMart over there blowing O’s while they going at it is funny af 😂😂😂😂

[@selfmade8884]

Mccants was actually right. Gil has a tendency to move the goalposts mid conversation because he hates to be wrong or not be the smartest guy in the room. He literally moved the goalposts multiple times in his first 5 minutes of talking.

[@ksisniipez]

Mccants is wrong he has Kobe top 5 based off skill 🤦‍♂️ if that’s the case just put KD & Kyrie in the top 5 above LeBron & Steph 🤦‍♂️

[@wesmyone9562]

You caught that too, right? Rashad, and Kenyon were cooking, so Gil kept moving the goalpost. It was so annoying😑

[@niamsidri]

@@ksisniipez you dumb AF 🤣🤣🤣🤣 to be in the GOAT discussion you have to have rings accolades accomplishments etc... now, within that group, MJ and Kobe were the top 2 players in terms of skill and the X factor... both of them are already winners you noob... where are KDs rings?? where are Kyrie's rings?? where are their Finals MVPs regular seasons MVPs you fool

[@Itsgwap]

@@ksisniipez🎯

[@iam5688]

​@@ksisniipezkobe has 5 rings can't say the same for the other 2

[@potato_1027]

How can we have goat debate when time hasn't stopped

[@R1ZZyD1ZZy3]

KM said, "F out of here" 😄 19:27

[@brantonsims4636]

The problem with Gilbert’s argument is that it only works if EVERYBODY has the same top two players, which we know isn’t the case. There are people who have Kareem over Mike, there are people with Wilt over Kareem, there are people with Kobe over LeBron….it goes on and on. And Gilbert said everybody can have their opinion but he would have to ignore all of those other opinions for his argument to work.

[@jamarpyatt4303]

Kobe at no time was considered to be able to be the goat while playing… Wilt Kareem MJ LBJ were.

[@memcrew1]

That’s the problem with the GOAT debate period. It’s just subjective opinions and ppl will have their choices.

[@ArmyofDrag343]

@@memcrew1 yea and it makes it easy to weed out the low iq mouth breathers that are only fans that haven't played. its between bron and mj. MJ had a movie like type career to summarize it and bron is the best floor general of all time with the scoring to back it up. Nobody in history will be to able to carry a team the way bron carried those cavs ever again.

[@brantonsims4636]

@jamarpyatt4303 but who was being asked? Are you taking that opinion from "journalists" or players?? Gilbert just literally said Kobe is the best player he's ever seen play, but somehow, he can't be in Gilbert's goat debate. That don't make sense. And Gilbert's watched and played against LeBron and Mike.

[@mikeray229]

Before Kobe passed. There wasn't much of a greatest debate. We accepted that Kobe was possibly #2. Every one seemed OK with that. What happened is Lebron went straight to the top being compared against Jordan. That's why Kobe is dismissed. He wasn't debated against Jordan.

[@mlackland7796]

People don't remember that Kenyon didn't feel comfortable speaking because of his speech impediment (stuttering) and he was the most eloquent in making his point

[@tiemann55]

The only knock on Kobe’s game , was that he was a low percentage volume shooter . But my response is , he played in an era where players played fierce defense. It’s hard to shoot 50 percent when guys are all going out on defense .

[@xDaijiro]

He actually shot above league average in the 2000s era which was the most defensive era ever.

[@camping2399]

Yo I’m sorry this is my last comment on this video but watching it in full length Gilbert argument is very shaky. @24:50 that was the icing on the cake for me 😂

[@camping2399]

First of all Chris Brown > Drake. Please look at the records for Chris Brown you’d be shocked 😂😂😂