The Most Ideologically Charged Nation in Cold War Africa: Why their Civil War Never Seemed to Stop

In this episode of Untangling Africa, we look at Angola and explore its complex past. From the fight for independence from Portugal to the dark realities of civil war, uncover the events that have reshaped this country's history. This is Untangling Africa, episode #14
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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
1:22 Empire and Rebellion
6:11 War is Over/War is Declared
12:57 A New Decade, and More Brutality
15:22 Cuito Cuanavale, and the Negotiating Table
18:37 A Changing World
22:15 The War's End, and a Lasting Scar on Angola

[@indianajones4321]

The Portuguese colonial wars are usually overshadowed by the French in Algeria and growing terrorism in the Middle East during the 1970s and 80s

[@kg7162]

I think the french and Portuguese got the most dirtier and bloodiest colonial war of the 60's in africa between all the other European nation

[@nickdarr7328]

That's because Portuguese colonies weren't really colonies. They weren't moving boat loads of settlers and their families to India or Nagasaki in Japan to expand. Are you familiar with early French colonies in North America? Like those colonies, the Portuguese set up fetorias all along the coast of lands they claimed in Africa, middle East, India, Pacific Islands and Japan. These were giant warehouses to act as trading post and forts. So in the late 1800s when nationalism took over and Portugal wanted land they had no experience or subtlety. You go from no history of oppression to martial law and cruel governors

[@jpmtlhead39]

Was better like that for the world not knowing abaut the Massive massacres of natives during the war,the indescreminated napalm bombings of thousands of natives on their villages starting in 1961 in Angola. Then the massacres continued also in Mozambique,and this until 1974. Hundreds of thousands of civilian natives were just erased by direct orders of the President of the Council,That huge Evil POS Salazar Argélia and Vietnan were very good to the Portuguese strategy and future politics in the Colonies,because the international community were all what was happening in Vietnan. And so the Portugueses loyal to the Fascist Dictator and his politics of not even consider the independence of one Territory that was a possession of Portugal,and will still like that for how long as it took,and with the ones against just had very hard time,and many were never seen again. The natives of the Colonies,or accept the Portuguese Rule with 500 years,or the Next day their village was no more,with the women and children the first to feel the "fire". Were very cruel 13 years for those poor countries. And also for thousands of young Portuguese soldiers who where sent to the Colonies and defend them has Portugal,never return home,died in a war that they didin't understand and took their lifes in the name of the Slave Masters. Only few international magazines or TV stations did nottest( were informed that something very serious was happening to the natives on the Portuguese Colonies. But the most was caught by secret Police and all their footage,photos,written accounts were confiscated and destroyed. But some came to light,like in 1973 One irish missionsry in Mozambique was witness of one ( among hundredi) massacre in Mozambique,where a unit of Portuguese comandos Killed 900 old,women and children at the village of Wiriamu. He went to the UN with his testemony,but only 1 year later the colonial Nightmare was Over. Was time for the civil war Nightmare beggins.

[@ktheterkuceder6825]

@@nickdarr7328 1.2 million portuguese in angola beg to differ.

[@chenzomutumbo9140]

​@nickdarr7328 it's still colonialism, it's just not settler colonialism.

[@neofulcrum5013]

The Angolan civil wars were a cycle of suffering over and over again.

[@filomenadossantos5934]

for once someone sees the nepotism...the hyprocrisy...yes

[@theily1724]

“Brothers, we must kill the MPLA!” “But I actually like the MPLA!” “TOO BAD!”

[@filomenadossantos5934]

SISTERS let's fight the NEPOTISM..

[@filomenadossantos5934]

hhahhahhaha....

[@akend4426]

*Stop watching this video brother! We must fight the MPLA!* But in all seriousness, I’m so glad The Front finally covered this conflict! And great job as always!

[@ZS-rw4qq]

Nah man we must fight the South African apartheid and its UNITA compradors

[@SiPakRubah]

So sad the MPLA still won the war, and Jonas Savimbi died and failed to achieve his goals

[@furiacabocla2furiacabocla589]

You loose this war a long time ago. MPLA with Fidel defeated Apartheid and freed Mandela..

[@maoistapessimista]

Savimbi was a corrupt idiot, @@SiPakRubah

[@GuntherFehlinger]

@@SiPakRubah Sorry friend, but the US, Zaire and South African apartheid allies didn't win

[@ryanjones4917]

Rawanda has been a good example of how to reconcile after this type of conflict. That being said, it ultimately comes down to the people to pursue peace.

[@mvajuru7620]

*"RWANDA". But yes.

[@alexandrecordeiro4957]

Rwanda, has central African Republic, blood in their hands.

[@christopher9727]

No hope in war repent of murder today Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Seek his Holy Spirit for guidance peace and purpose today Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus

[@ryanjones4917]

@@alexandrecordeiro4957 I was speaking specifically to how they settled their domestic hostilities after the infamous genocide. I have no doubt any given nation has the blood of some other on their hands.

[@hatinmyselfiscool2879]

​@@ryanjones4917... you are aware that the rwandan leadership is dominated by tutsis again? They solved nothing they just reinstated the old system with a new brand on it. Also, they literally killed alot of people trying to take over the country and, just adding a bit of a sidenote, had they have had the same amount of time as the hutu regime, they probably would have killed more people by the stats they had when they first entered rwanda. Stop glorifying this authoritarian dictator.

[@hughjass1044]

Great video. Very informative. The bulk of what happened in Angola happened when I was a teenager so although I was vaguely aware that some sort of war was going on, I knew very little about it. Interesting to learn more about it.

[@benclark4823]

🔥

[@christopher9727]

Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today Holy Spirit Can give you peace guidance and purpose and the Lord will John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus

[@Centristlol]

The history of Portugal and its colonies are surreal. It’s almost like they lived outside of our world

[@campones...]

Basicamente é isso, nós dos países que um dia fizeram parte do império portugues, vivemos praticamente numa realidade paralela comparada tanto com os países ditos desenvolvidos quanto com os nossos próprios vizinhos

[@thelawisthelaw2399]

​@@campones...as vezes parecendo que somos de outro mundo

[@campones...]

@@thelawisthelaw2399 realmente cara

[@br3menPT]

that was the point...the world did not understand or accept the reality and specificity of Portugal

[@filomenadossantos5934]

@@br3menPT we did....Salazar wanted to maintain the Fascism Status Quo...applying the Marxist philosophy and it never occurred to Salazar that it was due to this mainstreams that Germany lost the war....

[@trajanfidelis1532]

Untangling Africa is my favorite series!

[@benjauron5873]

Even in the context of the Cold War, all of Africa's problems boil down to tribalism and corruption. He said it here, the Angolans who fought under a communist flag weren't really communists, their tribal elders were just paying lip service to communism in order to secure Soviet and Cuban patronage. The same for the western-supported side. It was just another in a long line of tribal conflicts. And I'm not letting the Portuguese and other Europeans off the hook, they're the ones who started all the problems because they're the ones who drew Africa's borders, splitting some tribal groups in two and forcing others to live in the same country with other tribal groups that hate them. I know it's a cliche answer, but I say it again, the first step in solving Africa's problems comes with a page-one rewrite of all of Africa's national borders.

[@nickysimi9866]

It's a cliche answer for a reason: because it's the right answer

[@GuineaPigEveryday]

One of the most frustrating parts of the African Union is that they decided, unilaterally, that the colonial borders upon independence would be maintained for the future of the continent. It was a law put in place, which aimed to avoid future conflicts, and prevent dictators/leaders attempting to use nationalism to take other regions and redraw their borders into a free-for-all of land-grabbing. This is to be expected in any part of the world, I mean any leader in the world is eager to take more land if they can. But the African Union relies on the assumption that over time all these different groups of people will eventually unify under a nation-state banner. Which is ridiculous, because so many tribes/groups have been split between borders, or their trade/livelihoods used to depend on being able to cross borders, emigrate. Far worse is that nation-states have in many cases been arbitrarily drawn up, with an enormously unequal share of resources or even access to water. The Sahel countries are ridiculously divided, far too massive and hard to manage. Countries that are enormous often have multiple different climates and geographical barriers between groups of people, so its hard to convince everyone to just give up their identities for the good of the nation. Nation-states are the concept that Europeans came up with and forced onto the rest of the world, because it worked for them it apparently has to work for others, even if certain groups become oppressed minorities or practically stateless like Tuaregs/Kurdish.

[@JohnDoe-bh2lp]

Western corporations purposely destabilizing African countries with government backing for cheap resources rn

[@shoandutrieux9447]

The tribal division of Africa was done on purpose, to weaken certain groups and to make sure minorities would side with the colonial powers. They did the same across Asia, f.e. Sikhs were an integral part of the British Empire's police and military. The colonial powers broke entire groups of peoples, nations ect... To extract the most wealth as possible.

[@joenuts5167]

Africa should learn to embrace diversity like they always tell Europe too.

[@zillsburyy1]

a lot of people dont know about it. the true forgotten war

[@FOLIPE]

It's been 20 years since the end of the war, and they seem too be doing decently well. It is a young country and they have oil, population is young so most were born after the war. They seem politically stable for an African country. I have high hopes for Angola. From Brazil

[@filomenadossantos5934]

who has been doing relatively well....how can a country do well when no one wants to sponsor it....

[@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356]

cod bo2 vibes

[@DarkSaiya-jinXCV]

Was always interested in cold war Angola. Good to see someone finally talk about it.

[@Etraudmf]

Thanks for doing a video about Angola

[@wawerukamau6242]

Love the video… There’s a loud hum in the background that couldn’t let me focus though 🧐

[@gabrielcorrea7914]

Amor pros irmãos em Angola 🇧🇷🇦🇴

[@thelawisthelaw2399]

🇦🇴❤️🇧🇷

[@jonmcgee6987]

Interesting how a phrase often used to describe the Russian navy. Also applies to many African countries after the end of colonialism. "And then it got worse".

[@benclark4823]

The definition of a power vacuum 😩

[@miltonperez3680]

Lol the Russian Navy is like, let's take the long route.

[@mohammedsaysrashid3587]

Really, it was a super wonderful introduction video about Angolan 🇦🇴 political crisis and militias conflicts based on main tribe's competition.. for sized power .and become an official force over Angolan territory .. While USSR, USA, and China exploited escalated circumstances..for theirs geopolitical businesses ( cold war) ...thank you (the front line)channel for sharing

[@mrgooakalegooster]

Obrigado!

[@kalomboC]

The claim that the battle @ Cuito-Cuanavale was won by Apartheid South Africa and UNITA is simply untrue. Most historians agree that while the UNITA/SADF alliance was able to halt the FAPLA advance, they were unable to deal with the Angolans superior (Soviet supplied) air power (given their own aging, sanctioned air fleet) and were easily amenable to negotiations at which further evidence of their weakened position was the concessions they made in abandoning Angolan territory they held and ultimately ceding Namibia. Cuito-Cuanavale ended in stalemate, with FAPLA unable to dislodge UNITA/SADF and the other side spent and unable to sustain further high intensity conflict.

[@gidi3250]

The battle ended in a draw/stalemate neither winning, rather both sides achieved different things, South Africa won the operational side of things, they set out to stop the Angolans from going South (I've heard talk about fears of the Angolans crossing into Suid-Wes (modern day Namibia) while the Cubans and Angolans got a situational victory, from what I recall, they hunkered down the South Africans in that battlefield rather than allow South Africa to operate units elsewhere, I have heard this led to some gaining of terrectory later on as the South Africans where stuck holding positions. The only one to really win was Fidel Castro, who spun the story of the unstoppable South Africans being brought to a stalemate, and how great it was that it was "his" troops that did it.

[@filomenadossantos5934]

nothing is the truth....they all tell a different story and with their own opinion,,,i have watched many of the videos...one such showed how the Portuguese neutralized the warships,,,which cleared showed....but one of the PAIGC negated that...he said that the Portuguese did not neutralized anything...what a liar...then the part where the Port Prisoners were freed...and this PAIGC member argued that never happened....

[@Phansikhongolza]

Bullshit! It was a decisive defeat for Cuba and FAPLA. They never achieved a single objective. The SADF, who only numbered 3500 troops, stopped the numerically superior Cuban/FAPLA army in every engagement. Bear in mind the Cuban occupational force numbered 75 000 by 1987. FAPLA numbered 150 000. Plus there were 10 000 Eastern Blok "advisors" in Angola mostly East Germans. The SADF put the whole lot on the run. Losses... Thanks Cuba lost 96. SADF lost 3 Planes. Cuba lost 9. SAAF lost 1. Troops. Cuba 10 000. SADF 928. Plus Cubans never achieved a single objective and never crossed the Lomba River. Their main objective. The Cuban's left Angola after a 17 year occupation without ever defeating UNITA. In 1992 a South African private military contactor employed by the Angolan government, defeated UNITA in within a few months with a few hundred troops. The Cuban's failed to achieve this in 17 years with 75 000 troops. Know your history! Speak to the people who were actually there!

[@Phansikhongolza]

The politicians denied the South Africans the military victory which could have been. Had the politicians allowed the generals a free hand. The SADF would have walked over the Cubans within a few weeks. As they did in 1975 during Operation Savannah when the South Africans pushed the Cubans back 3000 kms in 30 days. From the SWA border all the to the outskirts of Luanda.

[@mathewomolo]

there's just something about African civil wars that's just different from all other wars.

[@WalterKayesse]

I believe its because Africans learned from their colonial overlords the concept that they are not fully human and they subconsciously internalized that. When two African groups (religious, ideological, etc.) were at extreme odds, they would fight each other with that Anti-African (Black) nihilism in mind leading to the most depraved outcomes and shockingly brutal acts of violence upon one another.

[@mathewomolo]

@@WalterKayesse its sad but hard truth. in all other wars you hear about 'rules' of engagement and recognition of war crimes. That there are things even they aren't going to do to their enemies at war. And Even when it comes to killing, there are rules regulating what can be used to kill. In African civil wars, anything goes. And no one cares for cease-fires unless guaranteed by the UN, US or other observer goups.

[@ivan-fs]

​@@WalterKayesseYeah... let's all forget the extremely corrupt governments and that every "election" is a coup. "No one hates an Angolan more than an Angolan."

[@jean-philippebobin3732]

I don't it colonizer the reson of the violence, humanity History is full or carnage

[@southernafricanboy4148]

Mmmmm. I want to disagree but don't know where to start My own country had a soft civil war between Zanu and Zipra and I don't remember any of the things you mention. It was a fairly localised civil war but I don't remember anything extreme happening

[@kinghenryxl1747]

LOL. Talk about rewriting history🤣UNITA never had popular support in Angola thats why they lost in 1992 election that was endorsed by the US and UN. Cuito Cuanale was a stalemate in which UNITA and SADF tried and failed to take the province.

[@ktheterkuceder6825]

Yeah getting support from apartheid state definitely didn't help with gaining sympathy.

[@hatinmyselfiscool2879]

It's almost as if the unita actually never really were the good guys. Curious isn't it 💀

[@paulcruz168]

Sure seems like a lot of effort to suppress an opposition has no popular support. Even accepting the official results I wouldn’t say a 40% share of the votes is unpopular

[@alcibiadestome9619]

Very good, but it’s interesting how the Angolan government to create unity it’s going further eliminating our languages, costumes and traditions

[@MIKE_THE_BRUMMIE]

Exactly!!! A collectivist government can't allow for any other culture than the one espoused by the state.

[@renzeusoya5828]

Multiculturalism and democracy does not mix well.

[@benclark4823]

@@renzeusoya5828 more like socialism and democracy don’t mix well. 😇

[@savinobodei4656]

It goes much further back to merchant colonies that set up on the coast in the 1400s, they integrated with the locals along the coast but only spoke Portuguese. The merchants who settled wanted to create their own sphere of influence separate from Portugal but also separate from the local people of the interior. Nothing to do with democracy or socialism as mentioned above.

[@MIKE_THE_BRUMMIE]

@@savinobodei4656 Well if that's the case you could take it back even further with the Phoenicians colonizing North Africa and turning those lands into outposts of their culture.

[@anthonyriego659]

*STOP WATCHING THIS BROTHER WE MUST FIGHT THE MPLA*

[@zaichizaijan4235]

Nah, Ima fight the UNITA.

[@brokenbridge6316]

Angola will stabilize eventually. Just takes someone in that country to say "Enough is Enough."

[@benclark4823]

The only way I could see Angola being “stabilized” is if one of the political sides was either [defeated in politics] or {killed in war} or (conquered by another nation or group) and I don’t see that happening soon 😩

[@AlexSDU]

5:22 Is that the picture of Mussolini on his table?

[@martonpapp269]

Black ops 2

[@ethanreighley1336]

Metal Gear Solid 5

[@alexandrecordeiro4957]

It takes more than a piece of paper or a flag to be really an independent country. China and the Soviets didn't help Africans because they cared about them, they simply wanted to replace the Europeans, and they did it. It is time Africans start to own up their own mistakes and failures. They kicked out millions of white Europeans born in Africa, and now they want to come to Europe, mostly uneducated and uninvited,instead of staying in their countries building a better future. Africans just seem incapable of running a country, just look at Zimbabwe and South Africa, once amongst the most advanced countries in Africa, what a shame.

[@CrossOfBayonne]

Alex Mason and Jason Hudson were here

[@lasol6108]

Can you please provide sources?

[@tumelokhasake4243]

I never new it was this bad😮😢

[@johnryder1713]

If theres one certain thing, the Portguese forces of intervention had not a single major loss between 1967 and the start of the coup d'état in 1973, unlike the Brits in there colonies or the French or US in Vietnam

[@ktheterkuceder6825]

What are you talking about? Brits won the falkland war and the malay war.

[@johnryder1713]

@@ktheterkuceder6825 Sure they did, but not many countries can say they hadn't a single major loss in their colonial wars but the Portuguese

[@ktheterkuceder6825]

@@johnryder1713 The portuguese did struggle in guinea bissau.

[@johnryder1713]

@@ktheterkuceder6825 Guess they did, but in Angola and Mozambique definitely not, even if Angola was left a wasteland after, God help the poor people there

[@br3menPT]

the situation in Giinea Bissau was more difficult for several reason....however Portugal was faraway of being defeated in Guinea @@ktheterkuceder6825

[@anon2034]

Executive Outcomes saved MPLA (the UN recognized legitimate goverment). Why are they not in the video?

[@BladeTheWatcher]

We tend to forget that not everyone on Earth adheres to western culture. Out of 8 billion, less than 1 billion thinks and behaves based on that. For the rest - the norms are just different. Europe and the US fought countless wars through countless centuries to reach a culture where disagreements can be handled by arguments and voting. There is no easy way - the rest must learn their own lessons. Just don't expect them to behave based on western culture, that would be a fatal mistake when they outnumber you 10:1.

[@Simon_Nzioki]

😮 Am African but sometimes I usually get stund when I realise I know more history of western culture than the people of the west. What you are calling 'way of settling disagreements by way of voting and arguments' is called democracy, and the origin of democracy in the western culture is from the Greek culture, but it was heavily opposed by thinkers of that age such as Pluto and Aristotle, who preferred a philosophical King. What led to the birth of democracy in Europe was actually the French Revolution before that they used to exists in monarchial systems, US had options of being a monarchy but it's founding fathers were inspired by the Roman Republic (not Empire which was ruled an imperial emperor). Those cultures you people like calling 'uncivilized' were actually quite complex, a good example of it is the existence of democracy in Oromo culture and semi-democracy were elders casted votes in Bantu culture but colonialism essentially destroyed African political organisation and failed to replace it, for example; while British had the right to vote and entitled to human rights, in British colonies human rights wasn't a thing, and government only existed to keep the exploitation going on, sadly this is what Africans inherited as their post colonial political economy, attempts to break away from it through communism failed miserably because we all know communism doesn't work.

[@udy12]

Yeah they got rich beacuse they started wars on Africa, South Asia, South America and the Middle West. Not in their countries. The right to vote only became a reality for most of the people in the last century. I wonder why people keep advocating these imperialist/colonialist powers.

[@bigmedge]

@@Simon_Nziokinah , they were indeed uncivilized - walking around barefoot & having no industry at all

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Hmm, now I wonder whether the nation still deserves an international liberation/intervention. Almost anything Africa is just too tempting as to bring back a comforting status quo, if you know what I mean.

[@baddudecornpop7328]

The main question I have is; why does there have to be an Angola? Let the tribes, under their parties form their own states in their respective regions in the north and the south. They have differences. No reason to make them exist under one government in one state. One side will always be unhappy, they won't get along. Just let the tribes do their own things.

[@grant9939]

Well people , especially governments, don't like to share!

[@Simon_Nzioki]

Most African tribes usually number around 1 to 2 million people, this is a low population density at best they can only form a small city or a conglomeration of villages that's why further balkanisation of Africa by ethnicity is usually not considered, just imagine having over 2000 countries and all of them being small city states, smaller than countries like Luxembourg but with a land mass of German it doesn't look like a good idea. What Africa needs is countries merging together to become stronger and federalisation of the government so that everyone feels they are not marginalized.

[@transformers5419]

It’s a strategy to split people apart so that they can never rise against their colonizers. Even today no western nation will accept Africa to form its own borders. Also once a tribe gets into power they also want to invade and take resources. It’s all just a mess

[@VivaCristoRei9]

It’s not just tribe vs tribe. It is African vs Mestiço.

[@eldios831]

It's not easy...it's like Scotland now wanting to get a second independence from the UK or Catalonia seceding from spain

[@simohayha9558]

DEATH TO THE MPLA (BO2 music gets louder)

[@FortuneZer0]

Angola é Nossa

[@svihl666]

15:24 / 24:53

[@BG-it7hb]

Good summary but with some small mistakes.

[@fabiansw8]

For some reason i keep thinking he's talking about star wars

[@aleksaantonijevic8308]

Wait what is this geetsly other channel too?.

[@brauliowagner4607]

As kids we were taught that who caused the war was Jonas Savimbi, mpla won the combat in Cuito Cuanavale, but once I was getting older I realised the truth, who are the real bandits, who tells the lies… mpla

[@thelawisthelaw2399]

Aos poucos vamos descobrindo a verdade sobre a nossa história

[@hatinmyselfiscool2879]

You also wanna hear the truth about him using child soldiers bombing civilians and literally started another civil war when he didn't get elected democratically? Or is that just not in your political goals so you ignore it?

[@gutioe]

Cuba beat the racist South Africans at Cuito... the ran to Namibia and got run out of there ! -- Angloa is a hero nation.. you are a dog lapping at the west.

[@brauliowagner4607]

@@gutioe I ain’t no dog for anyone, just get off. I didn’t call any names in my comment I advice you to the same!

[@augustomundombe829]

@@gutioe You are right on points

[@shaifunnessa7816]

ww2 American Top 10 heroes army please make video

[@grimtea1715]

My ex girlfriend is from Angola, and while she did mention Colonialism still is hurting many, she absolutely HATED the communists. Her uncle was killed, Aunts SAed, her father was imprisoned for many years, and where they lived nearly everyone was in poverty. Things had gotten better, but her family immigrated here to be safe.

[@filomenadossantos5934]

they only fought for their own power and privileges...their own love for their own...

[@blacktoast_2158]

This is a unique perspective unlike the South Africans that try and pretend they were in the right. For context my grandpa was a high ranking Cuban officer, and he, in his own words, “Hated, Hated, hated, everything the communists stood for” Yet my grandpa recognized the struggle of the Africans affected by colonialism and fought alongside his men, and regularly told off his superiors.

[@filomenadossantos5934]

got better...are you kidding us...with ebola...they fight each other...there is none in there that understands each other...

[@LuisAldamiz]

Excellent documentary as far as I can judge. I had no idea that UNITA was Marxist, I always took them for liberals or christian-dems because of their alliance with the the USA and South Africa. I knew it was not the brutal mercenary terrorist force (FRELIMO) that ravaged Mozambique but a more legitimate force but I would have never thought of them as Maoists, to me things were simple then: the Cuban-backed side was the good guys and the Apartheid South Africa backed "contras" were the bad guys. How wrong was I? How correct is the depiction of UNITA as Marxists?

[@giovannifontana1433]

China VS Urss backed comunist insurgency was the whole point of the cold war. Afghanistan, Angola, Zimbabwe, Vietnam, Cambodia and many more. Maoist were strongly anti Soviet all over the world.

[@cjclark1208]

@@giovannifontana1433Don’t talk about things you don’t understand.

[@cjclark1208]

Luis, if you want to know the truth you will have to dig and speak to others outside of Western sources and typical liberal views, anything “communist” will be demonized or outright lied about or erased from history by the West GURANTEEED. Good luck.

[@giovannifontana1433]

@@cjclark1208 my friend the sino soviet split its probably the most important factor in the fall of Urss, without the ideological coision of the comunist international the step towards a global comununist revolution was dead in the water even if more than half of the world population lived in socialist countries.

[@giovannifontana1433]

@@cjclark1208 sorry English it's not mother language

[@user-cd4bx6uq1y]

Within 27 minutes when 591 view and 9 comments

[@hernancortez5995]

It's ironic that the South Africans came back as mercenaries and fought against UNITA in the 90s

[@AncientRylanor69]

Angola

[@themaniac2448]

Need to correct something Salazar's regime wasn't fascist, it was just a conservative nationalist dictatorship. He even criticised fascism saying it was pagan ceasarsim

[@Romit12]

Fascism and Communism scare me

[@user-tk2zm6yw5h]

Salazar distanced himself from fascism and Nazism, which he described as a "pagan Caesarism" that did not recognise legal, religious or moral limits. Throughout his life Salazar avoided populist rhetoric.

[@Jason-fm4my]

Just fyi, the first 7 minutes is background fluff you can skip.

[@parvuspeach]

I witnessed first hand, at a MPLA/oil money family home (edit: in Lisbon) several SLAVES, young girls kidnaped from UNITA region villages. One of the dirtiest conflicts that i've seen.

[@VivaCristoRei9]

Good video and all but why did you not bring up the mestiço population? They are a sizeable minority of Angola and integral to the government and have a wildly different culture to any of the pure blooded native peoples.

[@nickdarr7328]

If I had a nickel for every time an African country declared independence on the 11th of November I'd have two nickels

[@gutioe]

Neto won... Cuba helped and Racis South Africa is no more. ! long live Angola

[@tiagofreitas1976]

when you said... angolan language at the beggining of the video i thought, this guy doesnt know what he is talking about, but later you said that there were severla tribes with their own languages.

[@akumaking1]

When has Africa not suffered hardship?

[@porcus123]

Yeah, dont come blaming us portuguese for that. Blame the soviets and americans for financing separatist groups and cranking them up to 11

[@BG-it7hb]

True, after 1975 the Portuguese had little influence on Angola compared to USA and Soviet/ Cubans

[@nunodias7974]

2:05 Salazar's regime wasn't fascist. Fascism only occured in Mussolini's Italy

[@granitestateman942]

Boy, Africa is such a cursed continent! 😬

[@samanth.]

Ukraine, world war 1 & 2 , Bosnia war, holocaust, black plague,

[@giselasilva5415]

As a Portuguese, I have a lot to apologise, but I'm hopeful Angola will one day be one of the best nations in Africa 🙏🇵🇹❤️🇦🇴

[@marioborges7145]

Why apologise for others people's mistakes ?

[@hornedgod2873]

Not your fault.

[@kg7162]

Why you apologise for something you didn't do it's good that you acknowledged the mistake and colonialism of your country

[@Bludthinkshesnapoleon]

Cuck

[@br3menPT]

SHAME ON YOU post colonial indoctrination.....

[@mathewomolo]

If you had to choose a colonizer, choose the British. Thank me when you gain indepence. Some of these countries had no business getting colonies.

[@rootin222]

>Downplayed the fact that UNITA was clobbered as a fighting force after Cuito. Forcing South Africa to negotiating table. The literal bias in this video was crazy

[@joaofernandes1817]

Angola e o caso que a era melhor na época da colonização do que na independente

[@eldios831]

Call of duty brought me here😂😂😂

[@franciscojuliaofigueiroare6506]

The "Estado Novo", Salazar's dictatorship was not fascist it was Salazarista.

[@christopher9727]

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[@udy12]

Salazarismo was fascism. Also the Varguismo in Brazil in the 40's.

[@rootin222]

The MPLA did nothing wrong

[@NibanoTugano]

The video have a little mistake, Salazar wasn't fascist

[@rolha666]

The part on the Portuguese Colonial War is misleading. First the revolution started in the farms but the workers were armed with machetes and canhangulos (home made rifles) , they killed every white person the could , even babies (there is pictures os it) , cut peoples heads and put on spikes, they also massacred alot of africans because they wouldn’t revolt with them (Fun fact , highest awarded soldier of Portugal was a Portuguese born in Guiné , he fought for Portugal after the rebels killed family members of him, also had to fight inside the army because higher ups were racist and didn’t trust him). Portugal planes didn’t kill 7000 people that is mad to think off , Portugal barely had any aircraft in the colonies even the army had very few soldiers. When the rebelion started the army and air force had so little capacity that it took months to reach certain areas of the country (reinforcements and supplies had to arrive from Portugal). In the beginning of the rebelion many farms became isolated and had to fend for themselves with what they had. Some would organize convoys with trucks and small 4x4 to reach safe places other just barricaded the farms and waited. Air Force place would drop the ocasional supplies and if they spotted the rebels would do some strafe runs. Napalm would come later , first they would drop small bombs but they were ineffective because they would detonate in the top of the trees. There where crimes from both sides , execution, mutilation etc. Many soldiers suffered PTSD by watching there friends being murder and mutilated (cutting ears , nose , genitals , etc). Dispite being cristians some rebels believed in voodoo and witchs , they would charge thinking the bullets wouldn’t hurt them. So many things can be said , the is a good documentary here on youtube that talks to people from both sides its pretty good but also pretty graphic.

[@johnanthonymazzei]

Communist sponsored insurrections ended colonial rule. Corruption in post-colonial Angola lead to a lower standard of living for Angolans. Chinese won this one. Just look at who owns the oil, mines...

[@blacktoast_2158]

What are you, South African? My grandpa, someone who hated Castro and the Communists more than anything, still fought for them to defeat the Colonialists. Do you know how evil you have to be to make my grandpa fight for communism?

[@bryananderson3772]

"international outrage" is a joke. Every nation does terrible things. How they can judge other nations is hilarious

[@williamsmith6]

Tribalism 😂

[@Shlepp]

It often seems as if these nations would be better off under colonial support.

[@bongo351]

Exactly, the USA wouldn't be such a cesspitt if they'd just paid their taxes and praised the damn king

[@cjclark1208]

@@bongo351amazing that theirs genuine idiots still saying stuff like this isn’t it? I like your sarcasm that was on point.

[@benclark4823]

@@bongo351 where your dam kings and queens now 😈

[@glencarey5274]

BULLSHIT!!!

[@Shlepp]

@@kata_winhangarra what is a snow monkey?

[@rodricouves1565]

You are wrong when you say that Salazar was a fascist dictator, he wasn t. Because he s regime wans t a fascist one but a conservative dictatorship. He never wanted a fascist ideology in his country. That mistake may seem small, but then people tend to think that Portugal was a fascist regime when its leader never wanted to. Fascist dictatorship ≠conservative dictatorship Im from Portugal this is what we learn believe me that if you think the opposite of what i said you are wrong And i never said the regime was good, to be clear

[@1joshjosh1]

🐵🦍

[@GambianoBahiano315]

🐷🐖

[@1joshjosh1]

@@GambianoBahiano315 Muslim and Jewish people won't eat that. Maybe that should be a starting point for peace between them.

[@GambianoBahiano315]

@@1joshjosh1 Yeah they don't eat white people

[@user-ln7zq4tb6j]

The photo at 3.28 is from apartheid South Africa, not Angola, as is the previous photo. This is dangerously misleading and lazy historicism.

[@shaifunnessa7816]

Why India hate Winston Churchill

[@johngoosen1962]

Churchill diverted food to the allied forces during ww2 that left thousands of Indian's to starve to death

[@benclark4823]

@@johngoosen1962 it was either feeding his people during the war or feeding the outsiders Churchill chose the latter 🤥

[@shanthasadanandan8299]

Bengal faime

[@SwedishDrunkard5963]

​@@benclark4823Inda was under british control, he caused a fammine killing millions

[@benclark4823]

@@SwedishDrunkard5963 then tell me if you where the prime minister of Britain and had the two difficult choices between feeding your own countrymen during times of war or feeding outsiders witch would you choose 🤥

[@Dornana]

They were better off with the portuguese.

[@hotman_pt_]

the harsh reality no one wants to admit

[@GambianoBahiano315]

No they weren't 💀

[@hotman_pt_]

@@GambianoBahiano315 they were.

[@GambianoBahiano315]

@@hotman_pt_ They weren't Thats like saying illegal immigration made the UK better 💀

[@hotman_pt_]

@@GambianoBahiano315 how is it even comparable, Angola was a province of Portugal

[@hashimsabul2880]

So fake

[@rockyjohn468]

POWER TO THE PEOPLE. LONG LIVE MARXISM LENINISM

[@gutioe]

This is trash... Angola is a rich nation that has the largest oil reserves in south West Africa.. ! Cabinda is a marvel of engineering . and the RACIST south Africa is gone.

[@luis.m.da.s.cesar1968]

You don't speak about FNLA... and there isn't a Angolan Language... because there is more then one language in Angola, like there is more then one ethnic group... and you don't speak about that too...very despicable video

[@user-oi2rd8yl2u]

Missing details : the communist flag of Angola is the ugliest in the world. Old Angolans say their life was better in the time of the Portuguese. The Cuban stole complete Portuguese factories, Neto was killed in the Soviet Union. Nothing works today in Angola, people starve, no sanitation. A clique of dictatorial cleptocrats steals all the money from oil revenues with utter disdain for the common people.. Isabel dos Santos, daughter of the previous president and a Soviet woman, is extremely rich. Mismanagement and corruption is way higher than in ordered colonial times. African rulers in the past sold slaves to Europeans. However a decent Angola would be a paradise for its people.

[@victxbr]

Its so Agonizing Hear Portuguese words pronounced as Spanish, the video is good, but please, put an effort when pronoucing portuguese words, its really different to Spanish pronouciation.

[@Khalifrio]

Colonialism may have started the problems in Angola but Communism made them much worse for a much longer period of time. Yet there are still people in this world who are devout communists... go figure.

[@benclark4823]

As the sayings goes “those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it” and “the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results” and “united we stand divided we fall” something communist have yet to learn. 🤥

[@butterman0007]

What a take😂

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

True.

[@alyssarichardson2544]

​@@butterman0007white knight detected

[@butterman0007]

@@alyssarichardson2544 thanks, king

[@SmedleyDouwright]

Diverse? Isn't Angola about 98% black?

[@renzeusoya5828]

Multiple and different ethnic groups and languages. Just like how the British and French are different.

[@6paths142]

There’s different ethnicities in Angola who have different customs and languages.

[@kg7162]

​@@renzeusoya5828even in france and england it's diverse corse Brittany savoy walles etc

[@6paths142]

@@davidgarcia5593 they don’t care enough to know

[@Simon_Nzioki]

I think Africa should be racialized so people can use their black identity instead of ethnicity, but the problem is it might scare the shit out of powers like France and US because it might lead formation of an African coalition that is hard to exploit and more interested in racial politics making things like BLM an international topic in UN and more antiwestern than they are currently.

[@yutakago1736]

The evil of colonialism era create most of the conflicts today.

[@Marcosperez-zd6xq]

The Front the video is a disaster. Battle of Cuito Cuanavale ended at stalemate. You should read Leopold Scholz opinion about Border War, he is not communist and he is the most important South african historian.