The most important 3 controls! Boss RC-600 Setup Tips/Tricks and Shortcomings in Firmware 1.04

[@aaronjasonmusic]

quick tip - when using the knobs, if you press/hold the knob down and then twist, it'll move 10 steps at a time, rather than one

[@MattBoltonMusic]

Awesome! That’s what I’m talking about! Solid tip!

[@MaxWillow]

What a Chad!!!! This has been bugging me ever since, awesome comment mate!

[@donchev92]

Something I use, as a tip for You: I put (replace) the "stop track" buttons to "mute track" buttons, for the respective tracks. In this way the tracks also "stop" being heard (they are muted), but when the button is pressed again, they continue to be heard from where they have reached at the moment of pressing the button for second time. It's working like immediate stop. It’s very useful, specially for a drum and rhythm tracks. Also, this way the indication shows where the track has reached while it is muted. It continue showing you the length and You can visually see where you are in the loop, as it goes around, even when you can't hear it. The mute button goes in red color, when it's active and there's no lights when it's disabled, so you can easily see what's going on. I hope this will be helpful. Regards, Cheers and good luck!

[@davidking7363]

I don't see the CTL Function or Assign for MUTE Track. How are you doing that?

[@donchev92]

@@davidking7363 There isn’t exact this function, called “Mute”, but you can assign “Track(number) LEVEL” in Assign page and put 0 to 100 for MIN and MAX and you’re ready. Works just like Mute. You can make Play and Mute buton for each tracks you want. :)

[@donchev92]

@@davidking7363 There isn’t exact this function, called “Mute”, but you can assign “Track(number) LEVEL” in Assign page and put 0 to 100 for MIN and MAX and you’re ready. Works just like Mute. You can make Play and Mute buton for which tracks you want.

[@donchev92]

@@davidking7363 There isn’t exact this function, called “Mute”, but you can assign “Track(number) LEVEL” in Assign page and put 0 to 100 for MIN and MAX and you’re ready. Works just like Mute. You can make Play and Mute buton for each tracks you want. :)

[@JohnPaulMusicUK]

This is a good video and a great idea for the loop pie chart. 👍🏼 Hopefully midi advancements are a simple firmware in the future. Early days. 👍🏼

[@Barflew1]

Hey Matt,Glad you're doing a DEEP Dive on this.Got mine yesterday afternoon..Got to do some Looping last night..Sound Quality Rocks.I'm Stoked for Sure..Had the RC-50 and 300..Can't believe the Options we have to set this up..Have a BeatBuddy Drum Machine and Midi Maestro Controller. Hopeing I can use that for Midi commands..Watching your channel and a couple others for what I Can and Can't do in set-up..Please Continue to Talk about the Good Options you see...And the Needed Changes in an Update.The more people letting Boss Know what Needs to be Changed...The Better...Thanks👍

[@chuntoon1]

Huge fan of what you do, got my rc600 a week ago now,. Thanks for the tips!

[@MattBoltonMusic]

Awesome! Thanks!

[@MikaelLewisify]

Thanks for this Matt. I’ve finally purchased to RC600 and this video is super helpful. Going to miss some features on my Aeros loop station (it’s really a great piece of gear), but the RC just does so much more.

[@MattBoltonMusic]

Great to hear! You’re gonna love the RC-600. It has a learning curve but once you figure it out I think you’ll like it better than the Aeros.

[@MikaelLewisify]

@@MattBoltonMusic Man I hope so. I started this journey with 505 mkII and I just couldn’t wrap my head around it. But I think now that I’ve been using the aeros for awhile, I understand looping a bit better and I understand midi mapping, hopefully it won’t now seem as daunting.

[@dancassidy7471]

So much to learn and a gig in 3 weeks

[@andybrown6981]

How did it go?

[@dancassidy7471]

@@andybrown6981 i played it safe and only looped the rhythm off an acoustic guitar

[@greendrinkguy1882]

I really hope BOSS watches this video!! In addition to the extra potential foot-switches I want to use a midi controller with lighted switches up ON A STAND to be able to adjust volume [+other things] with hands [without having to bend over while wearing a guitar +without having to move my mouth away from the microphone while adjusting something..] I hope Boss some day makes a table-top hand controller specific for the RC-600. [+yes I know I could use a 505mk2 on a stand with a midi foot-controller to sort of do the same thing, but that thing only has 5 tracks, is WAY bigger+heavier than a midi controller +takes up too much valuable space on a stand or table..]

[@MattBoltonMusic]

Good points. The RC1000 will hopefully have an add on midi controller when they release it in 2035. I did this before with the 500. Another problem with that is you have to run ALL the cables UP to the table rather than have them neatly on the ground. None of this matters to people that play at home and not in front of an audience.

[@JoostvanDijk100]

Was thinking the exact same thing!

[@greendrinkguy1882]

@@JoostvanDijk100 Great minds think alike :)

[@FrequSpectra]

I faced the same dilemma when I decided between the two models. The 5 vs. 6 tracks is what ultimately made me go with the 600. I haven’t dug into it yet but I also factored in my decision that we should be able to control a lot of parameters with any desktop midi controller. Any parameter that can be controlled by Midi CC can be controlled via a standard midi controller of almost any type. The first param that came to mind for is also track volume. I think it can be done. I think the author of this vid was just talking about the “clear all” parameter not being available to assign as a Midi CC destination.

[@MattBoltonMusic]

@@FrequSpectra yes, almost EVERYTHING is midi assignable. Keyword almost. You can midi assign any track volume. But also, you only get 16 assigns. It’d be amazing if they had a desktop supplemental controller with lots of knobs and buttons and lights for those of us that just want/need access to everything at a hands/foot’s reach. This thing is absolutely amazing and if you spend the time with the manual and the test EVERY setting and try every fx and try every ctrl assign etc. you will see it’s the ultimate piece of looping equipment ever even attempted. Boss really outdid themselves with this thing. My videos are meant to just point out a couple TINY little things they forgot to add that they should easily be able to fix with a firmware update. Of course there will always be minor bugs and missing functions overlooked. But there is nothing on the looping market that even comes close to how amazing this thing is.

[@BONGOLICIOUS1]

Watching your streams your Tops my brother 🤙 ? You using the harmony functions in the rc600 or a different pedal? Sounds awesome

[@MattBoltonMusic]

Thank you! I'm using this amzn.to/37pSds1 #ad The harmony algorithm in the RC600 is pretty weak.

[@wendellray6254]

Great Video Matt! Did you ever figure out what you're gonna use the 3 controls with the lights? That was a great point and I'm curious what you decided to go with. Thanks for your informative videos!!

[@MattBoltonMusic]

They're different on every page. But I think UNDO is the most important. But to each his own. Also, I just changed what the do AGAIN yesterday. Forever evolving!

[@chuckmottmusic1915]

I caught the way to do all clear is memory increase and decrease. Great out of the box suggestion (no pun intended).

[@padster1982]

How did you decide to use your three valuable buttons in the end Matt?

[@greendrinkguy1882]

btw, speaking of MIDI.. (If U havn't already discovered this) U may find great benefit from using the "sound mondo" app for your little yamaha keyboard as it will allow U to save different settings +then dial them up with 1 click of a button on your phone..

[@MattBoltonMusic]

Cool thanks! Never heard of it. Will check it out. I do like the tactile response and randomness of having to make the settings on the fly. Also, not sure if Yamaha lets you get to the "secret piano" sound with the mondo app. I had to physically modify my keyboard to get it.

[@fakestreamedia5309]

Matt great video thank you. Curious if you know a way to have separate multi tracks for an A section tracks 123 and B section tracks 456 etc

[@MattBoltonMusic]

Not sure. I only use multi mode with all six tracks. You should probably be able to do that with some clever assigns.

[@PuffMatte]

Would it be possible to assign two of the upper pedals as track 4 rec/overdub and stop..? Then you would have four tracks at your feet at all times. I think I’m gonna order the rc-600. I’d love to see it compared to the headrush looper.

[@MattBoltonMusic]

Yes, you can assign the buttons to do almost anything you want including track 4 overdub/stop etc. they’ve got many different styles of assigns for every pedal and every setting. It’s astonishing really. The parameter guide is lengthy (for a good reason). Search boss rc600 parameter guide. Not the manual. Read the parameter guide cover to cover. This thing blows the headrush looper out of the water. It’s not even a comparison at this point. I bought the headrush on Amazon and kept it for 29 days testing every single function. I wrote several lengthy emails to headrush explaining some of the fixable shortcomings and they didn’t even respond to any emails. I returned it and never looked back.

[@sousajerome]

Amazing! can you tell me if it's possible to start 2 tracks just with one switch? For example I record a kick sound on track one, a basse on track two, a guitar on track 3 and another guitar on track 4 (to separate sound in front of house for better mix) etc And I want to start kick and basse together...How can I do? thanks a lot.

[@MattBoltonMusic]

Use assigns. You can tell any pedal to do anything. It’s all in the user manual. Set assign 1 source pedal 1 set assign 2 source pedal 1 also. Have both their targets be what you want to happen.

[@sousajerome]

@@MattBoltonMusic thank you so much!

[@alsananick]

I use assigned 2 fs5u pedals to skip through memory locations. I just press forward and backward to clear all so I dont have to assign or waste another switch pedal

[@MattBoltonMusic]

That’s what I did on the RC300 and didn’t want to do that on this one because it’s still a work around . They could easily fix it with a hold all-clear assign. You can use only one pedal to delete them all if you change the “memory extent” and have it go from memory 1 - memory 1. So there’s no other memories except memory 1. When you assign one of the pedals to increase memory it just deletes everything and instead of going to memory two it it’s cycles back to memory 1. Pro tip.

[@alsananick]

@@MattBoltonMusic you can assign all start stop button to hold and delete all via control function but when you press, the rhythm starts playing for a second. Not acceptable for live playing if youre using the rhythms . I have now changed button 7 and 8 to inc dec memory and im using the fs5u pedals to switch drum kits and variations. I dedicated 5 memory locations to access the drum kits and variations i vant to use because the pedals only switching between 2 options

[@michaelkennedyreviews24]

Hey Matt, generally speaking, are you always set up with the RC 600 with tracks set to single mode, multi mode or a combination of both? Really appreciate your talent man, thanks for all the set up and trick info. Keep em coming :)

[@MattBoltonMusic]

Thanks! Always multi mode. Multi has the most flexibility I think. You don’t need single mode if your feet are fast enough.

[@Rabbimitterhoff1]

Great Video! If you have buttons 1-6 set to factory settings (tracks 1-3) and buttons 7,8,9, set to to undo tracks 1,2,3 ( like at the end of the video )then how do you switch to be able to use tracks 4,5,6? (since there are no buttons left)

[@MattBoltonMusic]

But there ARE more buttons left 😜 amzn.to/3Oudj8f #ad

[@wallacenock7423]

I have set my All stop Start button so that when I hold it down it clears all tracks

[@MattBoltonMusic]

Yes but if it’s in the stop state it’ll play a little bit of the loop when you hold it down. Which is not suitable for live performance.

[@MattBoltonMusic]

Also for the record...you CANNOT assign memory location up and down via midi assigns. So you can’t do the workaround like you could on the rc-300 to clear all the tracks with a midi assign. It seems intentional that they don’t want you using an assign to clear all. They force you to use a CTRL function for clear all. Strange. I don’t know why. Also in the video I say you can’t assign FX-A level to an assign. You can. It’s just not called level. It’s called FX-A ctrl. Ctrl not level. Because the ctrl changes depending on what effect they are talking about. On certain ones it is level, when level is the most important (like delay).

[@enzoar21]

Hi Matt you are very good, how can I recall the saved loops using an external pedal as well? thank you

[@MattBoltonMusic]

Not sure what you mean by recall saved loops

[@pluralloops]

Just watching, sure I could figure this out when I get back to the pedal. But I dig having the dials set to the three track volumes. I was a big fan of faders on RC300. Where was the setting for that part? Thanks for the vid! If I find any fun tricks I’ll def share!

[@MattBoltonMusic]

click: menu, menu,menu,setup, right, right

[@andybrown6981]

Hi Guys (plural) - In what ways do we use faders? Saying that, I did once do a DAW mix down that faded out the bass and pads for about 6 secs and I kept the guitar only for a few measures , is that what you both mean?

[@hERDoFBAND]

@@andybrown6981 in my usage I use it to slowly fade a track manually. After it’s faded I add effects and bring it back. The faders are nice because I can fade it back in to a lower volume than it was previously playing at.

[@tomfoolery4077]

is there a way to adjust the volume of the loops with an external midi controller? Like the nanokontrol2?

[@MattBoltonMusic]

Yes, I show it in my other videos. I'll make a detailed video with how to control with USB based midi controllers soon. Subscribe and ring the bell for notifications.

[@greendrinkguy1882]

U can also adjust loop/s volume with expression foot pedal of course..

[@ChrisDaviMusic]

Hello Matt 🇨🇵 and thank you! I'm still waiting for my rc600 to arrive. Can you tell what is your configuration with the mode 1 2 and 3 to play in LIVE with the rc600? Thank you for your answer 🙏

[@MattBoltonMusic]

It is forever changing. Start with how it comes from the factory and if you need it to do something else, change it. How I have it set up is irrelevant because it's how my brain works. Everyone sets up the looper according to their own brain. Boss gives you the standard setup from the factory and you tweak it to how it makes sense. Mine is constantly changing!

[@ChrisDaviMusic]

@@MattBoltonMusic first sorry for my english Matt 🇨🇵 .... Thank you for your answer. I use the rc-600 since 3 weeks! I cannot change constantly I need thousand hours to acclimate! At this time I loop song with 1 part. If songs need 2 parts, verse and chorus, I stop the Boss for the first or the second part, it's more easy for me in this time.... You can see a short video here, please give me your opinion 🙏 kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3TYmJpnjtige6M thank you for all your vidéo, I learn so much with you! 👍

[@victorangelo6514]

Midi control for MEM INC/DEC missing too :(

[@realrobarmus]

So it is possible to assign one of the upper 3 pedals on the RC-600 to All CLEAR with a long press? And the same button to Start/Stop All with a click? If so I’m sending back my 2 RC-500’s which does not have an All Clear function at all and getting an RC-600! (Currently I use Quantiloop which works great but a hassle to set up all the little USB cables etc)

[@MattBoltonMusic]

Yes you can do this. However, the problem is when you "all clear" by holding down it plays a little bit of the loops because the click is "all play" so it all plays before it all clears. Terrible! They should fix this and haven't. I recommend making ALL CLEAR something that is hard to do, like on page 3 in the corner or something. Because if its easy to do you'll do it by accident and that is no good. Good luck!

[@musoforhire]

Just got this unit and need to use on my gig tomorrow; I'm probably missing something really obvious but when I apply effects, they're applied to every input - vocals & guitar. How do I apply an effect *ONLY* to guitar?

[@MattBoltonMusic]

If the guitar is plugged into input instrument one, for example, you click on the input effect you want to only be on the guitar and click the menu to the left. It should say “insert: all” change that to “insert: instrument 1”

[@musoforhire]

@@MattBoltonMusic thanks so much. This is quite a complex unit, shipped with the most brief manual I've ever seen. The manual for my potato peeler had more detail. Crazy.

[@enzoar21]

hi, I would like to know how to stop the RC600 drum loop with an external pedal (FS-5).

[@MattBoltonMusic]

Use an assign function in the assign menu. Source ctrl pedal and destination is stop rhythm loop. Something like that. The Boss RC600 is designed so you can tell any pedal to do any function. Read the parameter guide on the Boss website, it’s all in there. Good luck!

[@uluiepra]

Спасибо! Еще вопиющий недосмотр boss что нет возможности направить какой либо эффект на моно входной сигнал. Это очень странно! у меня два сигнала - акустики и хамбакеры. Если ставить стерео то можно но идет сигнал в разные каналы. И так же с настройками этих каналов на шум и обратную связь от звука. только. Такой же недосмотр по Bank - почему я не могу использовать сразу 4 банка fx эффеутов - листая на foot не ясно. При этом педаль Boss хороша, но эти моменты расстраивают.

[@enzoar21]

how do i store the rhythm loop?

[@boabglen]

Hi 👋 I can't seem to find a way to turn off the click/tap tempo/rhythm. On the rc300 it was on the outside next to the tap. I can't seem to find it anywhere which is really odd. Surely ppl like to free loop without a click or tapping in a tempo? Please help

[@MattBoltonMusic]

You just click the button that says "Rhythm" to turn it off. Everything about the click and rhythm section and how to assign where different things go via routing is in the manual and parameter guide. I've read them both cover to cover several times, I HIGHLY recommend anyone that would like to use the pedal do the same. Good luck!

[@greendrinkguy1882]

The boss RC600 owners manual on page 7 tells U to set whichever footswitch U use, to "momentary".. (even though the FS-6 and FS-7 are both momentary AND LATCHING pedals..) so does the RC600 not allow U to use the latching mode with the FS-7 ??

[@MattBoltonMusic]

It prefers momentary, I believe, because of the way it reads messages. It expects a momentary message even the effect can be a latching effect if that makes sense. The only difference is the light on the FS7 won't stay lit. I'll try to explain in a video some time, but I don't know if I'll have the time to be honest

[@boabglen]

appreciate your content. I'm struggling with this and can't find away around it unfortunately. I'm in mode 1. I want bank 1 to be receiving my drums from an external source. I want to be able to play that at a short loop say of 4 beats. I want that to be the bpm of the track so I set that first and it saves me looping drums for say 4 x 4 beats. I then want to go in to bank 2 and set a loop length say of 12 bars. now this is where it gets tricky and can't figure it out. say I've recorded guitar rhythm in bank two and now want to add other parts like harmonies or bass parts on the guitar. I want to add that to bank 3. for some reason they won't quantize together and the loop seems off. I know there's a global quantize but is there a way to set it so that when I set drums for 4 bars that banks two and three can be played longer but be quantized together? you can do this on the rc300 just by putting bank 1 in free mode and other two banks in auto mode. I bought this pedals for sound quality improvements, more inputs and outputs but it doesn't seem to do the one thing I want it to. I'll have to take it back otherwise.

[@MattBoltonMusic]

Sorry you're having issues with it! Please contact Boss with your concerns. I think they are listening.

[@andybrown6981]

Hey, hi. There is another function I was reading about for my RC500 ( I am gonna upgrade soon ) that also has an affect. It is about whether the loops are in sync. I bet there is a fix for the option you need. It is quite a tech device, so persevere with the manual

[@dandilion62]

I have an mc8 coming....

[@MattBoltonMusic]

It's the best Midi Controller of all time. It takes a lot of work to program it, but it is amazing.

[@dandilion62]

@@MattBoltonMusic I'd gladly pay for a written tutorial....I have a similar schtick that you do.

[@JohnPaulMusicUK]

@@dandilion62 try this first before you buy any kind of tutorial.. mine is free and here : kzbin.info/www/bejne/kH6umZqwjZp9mpI

[@robbayne7874]

Any way to stop from receiving Program Change commands?

[@MattBoltonMusic]

Does it always receive program change commands? There are setting in the parameter guide for telling it to not SEND program change commands. I thought it only receives Control Change commands and doesn't receive Program Change. I would try turning off sending PC commands and see if that also stops it from receiving. Turn off receiving tempo and see if that makes it stop. There also might be an issue with the midi channel. Try changing the channel you are sending the PC's on. Good luck!

[@PatDowning83]

what is "mark set" and "mark back"??!!? help!!!

[@JanFerwerda]

Do you know why they choose to have the Midi Assigns to be per memory and not to choose between system or memory as the ext ctrl /expr are? This is a annoying shortcoming ....

[@MattBoltonMusic]

Yes, that is annoying. If you’re using lots of memory locations you’ll need to re assign all the assigns per memory location I guess. I think there might be a way to copy paste a memory location but haven’t looked into it as I only use one memory location and it’s not of a concern to me. Plus it wouldn’t bother me because I love going through the menus with the attenuator and assigning things, it’s good practice for learning the ins and outs of the pedal. Haha. But that’s just because I’m so excited to be using this flagship beast!

[@MattBoltonMusic]

Another thing I’ve noticed while setting up my backup looper. There’s no way to save all the settings to the looper. Save all the assigns and parameters etc. to an external source. I’m pretty sure. This was an oversight on Boss’ part. I’m trying to set up my backup rc600. I have one on the west coast and one on the east coast for touring and one backup at home. They forgot to add a “restore settings from backup”. It’s A LOT of work to set it up the way you want it. So I recommend everyone write down EVEry setting in case a board fails and you need to set up another one quickly while on the road touring.

[@Barflew1]

I'd done this with my RC-300..Make an Empty Patch Template-set-up the way you want---Save It...COPY that to a different Patch#..John Paul Music told me about it...Lot of Great Tips There...It Works on the RC-600 Too...Only thing you'll have to change is your Rythem Setting,to what you want...Before you record on the new Patch#..We CAN have a Few Different Button Push Set-ups..Using a Template and Coping it to a New Memory#..AND Only have to set it up Once..

[@troydonator]

Is there a straightforward way to JUST start/stop Tracks 1,2,3 together and then 4,5,6 together?

[@MattBoltonMusic]

You can tell the looper what tracks are effected by the start/stop button assign. But not sure if you can change it on the fly without using a different memory location. If you want to switch mid song to start/stop all tracks being different tracks? Good question. That seems like something you should be able to do. Might've been another oversight on Boss's part.

[@MattBoltonMusic]

You could always use assigns. Assign one pedal to start track 4, start track 5, start track 6. And have the all start stop just start the first three tracks(you can do this in the settings) And it would basically do what you’re asking.

[@lovewords]

I’m having an Error in my new rc600 system error lc1258 . I updated to the latest firmware and it still give me the same error. In general I wanted to know. Do you have a lot of issues still , with your rc600?

[@MattBoltonMusic]

Sorry to hear that. I haven't had any issues ever, fortunately.

[@andybrown6981]

Can anyone tell me about the drum - I think it is a midi. What is brand of it?

[@MattBoltonMusic]

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[@TheCarromkid]

Don't set your knob to 'orb indicator' . It caused a system crash twice on my 600

[@MattBoltonMusic]

Yeah, I don’t foresee any reason why you’d need to change the status of the orb indicator. It should always be tempo anyway. Maybe if you use the built in drums it would be necessary for something. But I build my own beats and don’t use the built in rhythm. I also beg of other loopers to not use built in drum beats “drum machines”. It gives live loopers a bad name. Anything not performed live on-the-fly gives loopers a bad name. It makes you look like you’re just playing to prerecorded tracks (which is the cardinal sin of live performance)

[@greendrinkguy1882]

@@MattBoltonMusic That is SO TRUE. I would like the RC-600 SO much better if it didn't have any built in drum tracks. Extra crap like that (that we don't use), not only makes the performer look like he's doing karaoke, but it also adds adds weight +takes up valuable space on the looper. This was why up until now I always used the boomerang phrase 3 sampler.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpypmGx6p9mkhtk

[@GOD_BLESS_THE_BEATLES]

Matt have you jumped on the Quad Cortex bandwagon? If not? WHY?

[@MattBoltonMusic]

I don’t trust the footswitches

[@greendrinkguy1882]

If (that's a big "IF") if U could use 2 midi controllers at once (I don't know anything about MIDI but I'm guessing it's not possible) +if u don't mind using something BIG and heavy.. the Nektar Pacer midi controller footswitcher has multi-colored lights +could be used for important foot switches.. but we still need a tabletop MiDI controller for many OTHER things... (Come on Roland, your job is not finished here.. U could sell SO MANY MIDI controllers if U came out with a SMALL table-top side-car for this.. +better yet, give us MORE than 16 MIDI commands.)

[@MattBoltonMusic]

Having lights is not the issue. Many MIDI controllers have lighted switches. The MC8 has switches that you can program to say different things when you step on them. The issue is the way the RC600 communicates the lights. The lights on the RC600 are controlled by an internal language that is not MIDI. It's not possible unless it's designed by BOSS because the lights are not MIDI commands. They are being sent by a proprietary BOSS language/code (as explained by BOSS). So they would have to make a pedal that basically uses the same language as the pedal. MIDI is a universal simple language that the RC600 understands but it's not the language/code of the internal workings of the pedal. Maybe ROLAND/BOSS could design something that communicates with the RC600 but it is not likely because it would probably need a different port (not MIDI) maybe they could communicate via the USB port but, again, it would have to have been thought about in their initial design. Now it would just be trying to redesign it.

[@greendrinkguy1882]

@@MattBoltonMusic wow interesting thanks.

[@greendrinkguy1882]

@@MattBoltonMusic SOLUTION!! = Run a table top midi controller into an RC600 +use it ONLY for volume levels of tracks, FX levels, +panning. [u don't need lights for that anyway] then take the "MIDI out" of your RC600 +send it to "MIDI-in" of an RC505 MKII on a stand +use two foot controllers to control 2 of the channels by programming "rec/play" on 1 button and "stop" on the other button of each of the controllers. This gives u 2 more "foot-tracks" like the RC600 with all the lights/bells+whistles of the 505 to control them with. Now u have an 8 "foot-channel" looper, 2 of the channels are exactly as u wanted (controlled with the 505) +6 of them are still pretty good (controlled by the little MIDI controller on a stand). then U also have 3 bonus channels on the 505, where u can record shakers/percussion+drums (since u don't need to use your feet when recording those loops anyway. This also give u more FX bank options +allows u to use a shorter mic cable (since your mic is already off the ground.)

[@greendrinkguy1882]

Why do u want a visual to show U where the loop is when it's turned off? If it's turned off.. (it's not anywhere!), it's just off. That would be like a parent telling his teenager that he's gonna to lock her in the house for 4 hours while he's gone, but she should still send him text messages telling him where she WOULD be if she HAD left the house"...

[@MattBoltonMusic]

You are completely wrong. You're not understanding how the pedal works. If the loop is turned off it is still playing in the background SILENTLY...the loop is still moving through the progression. If the loop is 20 bars long and you turn it off for ten bars and press play after ten bars (while it is not playing) it does not start at the beginning, it starts at the halfway point. This is for advanced techniques, but it would be nice to have a visual of where the loop is (EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT PLAYING) because it continues to play SILENTLY when "off". Sometimes chord progressions have similar parts in longer progressions with certain parts having repeating patterns of the bridge or chorus, if you knew where you were in the "silent loop" that is "off" you could turn the loop back on when the right chord is about to be played. I DO THIS all the time...however I have to think in my mind where the loop WOULD be if it were playing out loud and be cognisant of it even though it is silent. That way I can bring it in where I want it. Again, this is an advanced technique. If all your loops are the same length or you're not using multiple layered loops with different lengths and progressions then this wouldn't make sense to you. If the loop is "turned off" aka STOPPED you said "it's not anywhere".....and that is just wrong. It is playing silently in the background while in "stopped" mode. When you hit PLAY the loop comes back instantly where it WOULD BE if it was playing out loud the whole time. Just like when the loop is PLAYING you can visually see where it is in the pie graph. When stopped the pie graph completely disappears. It would be nice to have the option to STILL SEE the pie graph so you could see where the loop is.

[@greendrinkguy1882]

@@MattBoltonMusic Thanks for taking the time to explain all that. The only looper I've used is the Boomerang III phrase sampler which doesn't DO that.. (even in a mode with many tracks playing at once) it will not enable U to start recording or playing in the middle of a loop. I'm still waiting for my RC600 to arrive +was not aware that the "play" button worked that way on boss loopers.

[@dominiqueaubin1920]

C'est certainement très bien, mais tu devrais bloquer ta caméra.... C'est une girouette. Comme je ne comprends pas l'anglais je ne peux rien saisir. :-)