The most mysterious star in the universe | Tabetha Boyajian

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@glashoppah
@glashoppah 5 жыл бұрын
Actual scientist, speaking with precision: "one of the most mysterious stars in our galaxy." Marketing person working for TED: "The most mysterious star in the universe".
@yotube1ful
@yotube1ful 5 жыл бұрын
Madeleine Dacey I think glashoppah was addressing the difference between “one of” and “the most” nothing beyond that.
@richardmalone3172
@richardmalone3172 5 жыл бұрын
@@yotube1ful Yes, but also the incomprehensibly huge difference between our galaxy and the universe.
@hansgulldhe8519
@hansgulldhe8519 4 жыл бұрын
Have you not thought about ignoring that what obscures the planet lies at a greater distance to the planet or closer to us watching the event
@cade8986
@cade8986 4 жыл бұрын
glashoppah I thought the same thing
@bronnblackwater7950
@bronnblackwater7950 4 жыл бұрын
indeed. sound like they know all the stars in the universe...theyre not even seen each and every in our galaxy
@nikolateslaize
@nikolateslaize 5 жыл бұрын
I am one of those volunteers and I am really proud. Seeing eclipsing binaries and possible exo planets is beyond fascinating.
@stevegrimes21
@stevegrimes21 5 жыл бұрын
And so u should be
@nikolateslaize
@nikolateslaize 5 жыл бұрын
@@stevegrimes21 :) it is very kind of you. Thanks.
@Invisbleflame1
@Invisbleflame1 5 жыл бұрын
You know your looking at wormwood forming right?
@nikolateslaize
@nikolateslaize 5 жыл бұрын
@@Invisbleflame1 wormwood or wormhole? :)
@spacecadet35
@spacecadet35 Жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work. The results of the volunteers have been impressive.
@Arsenic71
@Arsenic71 4 жыл бұрын
And she is too humble to mention that this star is named after her: Tabby's star. There are not many stars named after people, maybe a hundred in total (and I'm not one of them 😁)
@akibmahmud19
@akibmahmud19 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, You are on the bloody periodic table !!!!
@Seekthetruth3000
@Seekthetruth3000 3 жыл бұрын
@@akibmahmud19 And a carcinogen!
@ArghyadeepPal
@ArghyadeepPal 3 жыл бұрын
@@akibmahmud19 Lmao
@allstarwatt7246
@allstarwatt7246 2 жыл бұрын
@@ArghyadeepPal 😂
@Tenchi707
@Tenchi707 2 жыл бұрын
That's friggin cute
@phil4893
@phil4893 2 жыл бұрын
Mars is currently very visible at night from the UK, and on late night walks with my dog, I often find myself just staring up at it and the stars surrounding it. The word awesome is used far too easily these days, but the sky at night is, truly awesome.
@Automobiliana
@Automobiliana 13 күн бұрын
Hear-hear. It truly boggles the mind.
@Hamza-tj5xq
@Hamza-tj5xq 5 жыл бұрын
alien chef commander : " Bring me this Tabetha snitch "
@orlandogalan
@orlandogalan 4 жыл бұрын
Maze nice
@anthonybroussard1102
@anthonybroussard1102 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@maddee6619
@maddee6619 4 жыл бұрын
😆
@robf1801
@robf1801 4 жыл бұрын
alien chef? what, are they gonna eat her?
@ivanzzz7610
@ivanzzz7610 3 жыл бұрын
explain this boyyyyy : "alien chef" hahahahahhahahahahaha
@Beanie-Sandals
@Beanie-Sandals 5 жыл бұрын
I really love what she ended on. "What will it mean if we find another star like this? And what will it mean if we don't?" If we don't find anything like this again it could possibly rule out natural phenomena, and lean towards a more alien hypothesis.
@Ericsaidful
@Ericsaidful 2 жыл бұрын
The idea of dysonspheres actually existing is...its beyond fiction. Using it as an explanation for this phenomenon is absurd. Most likely it's a body, or bodies, that are oddly shaped with an odd orbit due to a collision. The sphere would be a myth using our own perception of energy use. Considering we are 100 years removed from the use of fire as our primary source of energy, we are so far from reaching the ultimate sustainable source of energy that we have no idea what will and what will not be useful even on our planet in the next 100 years.
@neodymium1110
@neodymium1110 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with that is it is quite literally physically impossible to observe every possible star/star system that might imitate conditions similar to those displayed in the video. There are quadrillions of planets in our universe. So sadly, unless the cosmos throws a stroke of pure, absolute luck at us, ruling in extraterrestrial possibilities is and will remain something to strive for I get where your coming from though, it's always exciting when things like these pop up.
@neodymium1110
@neodymium1110 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnfillmore why would it not be a sad or unfortunate thing? discovering something trivial (comparatively speaking) like an exoplanet is exciting in the astronomical world. If intelligent life is found elsewhere it would break the internet 💀.
@awoken2562
@awoken2562 8 жыл бұрын
Great, if we find aliens and they look into our history of extra terrestrial movies, they would see that 90% of the time, we kill them.
@TheHelghast1138
@TheHelghast1138 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah not a good welcome sign
@Nortrid
@Nortrid 8 жыл бұрын
:))))))))
@TheKajunkat
@TheKajunkat 7 жыл бұрын
fortunately, they won't receive the transmissions for another 1400 years or so.
@johnmason1239
@johnmason1239 7 жыл бұрын
usually only if they attack 1st,Iam all for intergalactic peace, but whilst your dashing out there-calling ETs in for lunch-a good probing via SETI,many are prepared for other potential evantualities.
@jefffarnsworth7678
@jefffarnsworth7678 7 жыл бұрын
"How to Serve Man"
@miguelsuarez8010
@miguelsuarez8010 16 күн бұрын
Independently from these findings, I am totally convinced that there is life everywhere in the universe.
@tristanrylan
@tristanrylan 5 жыл бұрын
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." Take notes, flat earthers.
@knix7329
@knix7329 5 жыл бұрын
•Tristanrylan• Lol rrrrriiiiiiigggghhhhttt
@majinregime1537
@majinregime1537 5 жыл бұрын
Ummm...round earthers might wanna take notes
@viktorvasilik5477
@viktorvasilik5477 5 жыл бұрын
what exactly was the "extraordinary evidence" for a spinning waterball when it was first *made up* (or as you call it "discovered")?? Start with just 1.
@tristanrylan
@tristanrylan 5 жыл бұрын
@@viktorvasilik5477 We don't need extraordinary evidence if it's been proven for thousands of years...
@viktorvasilik5477
@viktorvasilik5477 5 жыл бұрын
@@tristanrylan that's what I thought your answer was going to be...sad because you don't have one...
@JMsoo
@JMsoo 7 жыл бұрын
Imagine hundreds of years from today maybe this clip will be seen as: "This was the first time we noticed them".....
@jujuyee2534
@jujuyee2534 6 жыл бұрын
Jivan Moulandi scary
@bassinblue
@bassinblue 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely watching too many movies.
@Fortify2030
@Fortify2030 3 жыл бұрын
"It was happy times, before they attacked us..."
@MegaPieru3000
@MegaPieru3000 3 жыл бұрын
@@bassinblue It's possible although somewhat unlikely. But still possible.
@mcs6330
@mcs6330 4 жыл бұрын
After watching this, I feel like earth might be the group project of alien students somewhere up there
@axlnightmare
@axlnightmare 3 жыл бұрын
And...those students failed.
@HansLasser
@HansLasser 10 ай бұрын
​@@axlnightmareYep, they will come back next year because of their crappy project!
@MachenLand
@MachenLand 13 күн бұрын
8 years later.. any update on this info?
@Satya_deep
@Satya_deep 5 күн бұрын
Several hypotheses have been proposed to explain the star's large irregular changes in brightness, but as of 2024, none of them fully explain all aspects of the resulting light curve.
@EQOAnostalgia
@EQOAnostalgia 8 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely fascinating! I had read a bit about it, but the way she breaks it down. As soon as i saw that 15% dip in light my jaw hit the ground!
@Otaner142
@Otaner142 8 жыл бұрын
EQOAnostalgia she said there was a 20% drop 1 thousand times the area of the earth..... damm
@snitox
@snitox 8 жыл бұрын
I don't get it, what if its an mis-shapen asteroid that is closer to us and just seems big and its blocking it. I think they are just riding the hype train.
@10ahm01
@10ahm01 7 жыл бұрын
+KNO a planet can't be this big and you're saying asteroid??
@brandonsarazin3257
@brandonsarazin3257 7 жыл бұрын
there is alot of things bigger than you could conceive. like suns several times and than the entire solarsystem. Millions of miles wide.
@TheZahirNT2
@TheZahirNT2 7 жыл бұрын
KNO because certainly none of the thousands of citizen enthusiasts or the teams of highly trained scientists who have looked at these data thought of that. You'd better write them. You may have cracked the case wide open!
@rodionromanovich449
@rodionromanovich449 5 жыл бұрын
Thought Christopher Walken was the most mysterious star in the universe
@TheSnyderWeb
@TheSnyderWeb 5 жыл бұрын
Christopher Walken is TERRIFYING.
@Albertojedi
@Albertojedi 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheSnyderWeb He's a psycho lookalike 🤣🤣
@brittoncarter5302
@brittoncarter5302 5 жыл бұрын
BAHAHAHA made my day.
@Alexandra-xt1vf
@Alexandra-xt1vf 4 жыл бұрын
He is
@whydoesitmatter6923
@whydoesitmatter6923 4 жыл бұрын
Dude watch your mouth put some respect on his name seriously
@trent8002003
@trent8002003 8 жыл бұрын
Sounds like it wasn't the star that was mysterious but the "thing" that passed in front of it!
@chriscrews5795
@chriscrews5795 5 жыл бұрын
Dyson sphere lvl 3 civilation hundreds of millions or billions or years old
@danielabilez3619
@danielabilez3619 2 жыл бұрын
She is very good in her presenation. She is believably direct without being arrogant. Her voice moves and pulls you along. Good job. For her, the audience, the viewers: Merry Christmas and a prosperous new year
@glenbrisebois8239
@glenbrisebois8239 2 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas Daniel!
@CaesarCassius
@CaesarCassius 2 жыл бұрын
That was a total letdown, she should have called this video the Most Clickbaitiest Title in the Universe
@ossiedunstan4419
@ossiedunstan4419 2 жыл бұрын
Watching this tin foil collaboration , it was a preposterous Christmas.
@lqr824
@lqr824 Жыл бұрын
This is the worst presentation I've ever seen in TED, and frankly, I think, even on KZbin in general. Her frame thesis is that "computers can't find this," but that's simply a lie. Computers can easily find things like this, if programmed to look. The REAL question isn't about the star, it's about what in the heck the NASA programmers were doing that their software didn't note these huge anomalies? Instead she peppers the talk with Star Wars-based theories that could have been shot down the second they were raised.
@vijaz5559
@vijaz5559 8 ай бұрын
​@@CaesarCassiusshe's not in charge of giving titles on this video. Are u dumb?
@sglonebird
@sglonebird 6 жыл бұрын
Ever notice how all the instruments looking for intelligent life are pointed AWAY from Earth.
@xanderb6946
@xanderb6946 6 жыл бұрын
"Ever notice how all the instruments looking for planets are pointed AWAY from Earth."
@JaydenAndJacob69
@JaydenAndJacob69 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, you are really witty!
@jerryslater3447
@jerryslater3447 6 жыл бұрын
on earth we can talk and listen, you may need a hearing aid...
@Joshua-notjosh-
@Joshua-notjosh- 6 жыл бұрын
@@jerryslater3447 do they also make "Thinking Aides"? Because I'm pretty sure you missed the joke.
@TheAlanX2
@TheAlanX2 6 жыл бұрын
That's so cool. And I would point out that we also point our microscopes inward looking for intelligent life too.
@hooked4lifeca
@hooked4lifeca 5 жыл бұрын
I think I may have an answer to this problem. Imagine a system with three or four Jupiter sized planets. During their orbits there will be times when they align and as a result, the outermost will be over time, pulled inward toward its star. The orbit of this outermost Jupiter becomes increasingly elliptical and in the process, it disturbs the orbits of the other Jupiters. Eventually the orbit of the outermost Jupiter becomes highly elliptical where it plunges towards its star, passing very close, then speeds away. If the angle of its ellipse is just right from the view point of the Earth, we see the planet plunging toward its star followed by it speeding away behind its star. This orbit would match up with the long, slow period where the light from the sun is being slowly dimmed as the Jupiter plunges toward its star. At maximum star dimness, this Jupiter may be within the equivalent orbit of Mercury, which would explain the 20% drop in light. It then speeds away from its star, passing behind it from Earth's point of view, which results in the sudden increase in luminosity. As far as the double dip in the data, followed by another dip, that can be explained by the outermost Jupiter towing the inner Jupiters into highly elliptical orbits, so that the closest passing Jupiter is rapidly preceded or followed by a second one, then more slowly followed by a third. We should be able to prove this hypothesis via super computer, or by continued observation of the star when this behaviour begins to repeat. We could also see a very pronounced wobble produced by the gravitational tug of the planets as they speed by in their elliptical orbit.
@chrispatton4219
@chrispatton4219 5 жыл бұрын
In this case, you can create models to recreate the orbits that would have resulted in this phenomenon and then accurately predict the next time any number of orbit related events should occur. I think what she was trying to say was that they exhausted all of the possibilities in naturally occurring phenomenon because of the behavior of the object.
@dorrianstone7264
@dorrianstone7264 5 жыл бұрын
hooked4lifeca the final conclusion was it’s just a massive gas cloud.. 🤷🏻‍♂️
@VoicedRealms
@VoicedRealms 5 жыл бұрын
here is another scientist trying to figure this out. man you have to understand something that it is really important to have the right tool to solve the mystery of the universe and right now you don't have that kind of tool. it is like a doctor cannot do surgery without having a surgical tool.so instead of solving the mystery, you need to make an invention that allows you to see behind the star as the star is right in front of you. by the way amen to that.
@VoicedRealms
@VoicedRealms 2 жыл бұрын
@Tabatha Tuszynski you are right. my comment was kind of toxic that I posted four years ago. 1st step is always very important even if it is a small step.
@groundcontrol-888
@groundcontrol-888 2 жыл бұрын
they will have to rename it hooked4lifeca 1 if you are correct !
@breannathompson9094
@breannathompson9094 8 жыл бұрын
I got in trouble watching this in class, but then I showed my teacher and since it was science class, she let us watch it on the projector. #lucky
@breannathompson9094
@breannathompson9094 8 жыл бұрын
Astrophysics is also my dream career
@Rookie_Rockounding
@Rookie_Rockounding 8 жыл бұрын
Nice! That's a rad teacher
@jacobzu6655
@jacobzu6655 8 жыл бұрын
+Breanna Thompson same
@greatsea
@greatsea 8 жыл бұрын
+Breanna Thompson It is a win-win pursuit. If it didn't work out you could always crunch numbers for some corporation.
@corydunn2453
@corydunn2453 8 жыл бұрын
lol nice
@johnhough4445
@johnhough4445 2 жыл бұрын
The older I get the more I realise my own ignorance. But, for me the biggest mystery is that of time and time alone must be properly understood before we can get anywhere with understanding anything else. This lady is gentle with us dummies, for which I am grateful; well done!
@superfan7052
@superfan7052 2 жыл бұрын
“Gentle with us dummies” ugh - she’s not pandering.
@timhallas4275
@timhallas4275 8 жыл бұрын
Maybe what we are witnessing is not something orbiting that star, but something orbiting us. Now who's to say it is not.
@zulkifliali8832
@zulkifliali8832 6 жыл бұрын
great new idea!
@DustinRodriguez1_0
@DustinRodriguez1_0 8 жыл бұрын
Is there a particular reason why they don't seem to be suspecting the star itself? They did consider whether it was young and surrounded by a cloud left over from formation, but aren't there a lot of possibilities like the star having recently ingested something large (planet scale or larger), and still roiling and irregular due to that? I'm no astrophysicist, and don't know if perhaps something like what I suggested might have a characteristic signature that is missing, but given the almost total lack of consideration of irregularities in the stars output itself (rather than output being blocked) makes me think that maybe there is some evidence that establishes fairly clearly that the star is regular enough that it couldn't be any oddity with the star, but must be something between it and our detector.
@adamnelson5938
@adamnelson5938 8 жыл бұрын
+Dustin Rodriguez this was my thought as well. I guarantee there is a "natural" reason for this data.
@f4k4
@f4k4 8 жыл бұрын
watch 6:30
@kingkobra1978
@kingkobra1978 8 жыл бұрын
They said they took all that into consideration
@DustinRodriguez1_0
@DustinRodriguez1_0 8 жыл бұрын
Bearded Bard Taking into account what we already know about stars is not sufficient to rule out things we don't know about stars. Before scientists start looking to more outlandish possibilities, they always consider what sort of thing COULD cause what they see. If they discovered an explanation of why it is definitely NOT something unknown about star behavior, they did not mention it.
@Slingblade420
@Slingblade420 8 жыл бұрын
"Outlandish possibilities" being the possibility of there being other intelligent life in the universe?
@robby12320
@robby12320 8 жыл бұрын
I find it funny that this video is very simple and easy to understand yet many people in the comment section seem to disagree.
@JonatasAdoM
@JonatasAdoM 8 жыл бұрын
I loved how she seemed to be defending the alien theory and leaning towards the end when bang she took the opposite route
@rogerstorrs8679
@rogerstorrs8679 5 жыл бұрын
@@JonatasAdoM Well it's kinda fun.... (And it gets her clicks ;) )
@wildeofthewest01
@wildeofthewest01 Жыл бұрын
It does seem very simple to explain and it certainly does not involve 1. Aliens 2. Star Wars - Death Stars etc 3. Asteroid belts or 4. Black holes The strange pattern shown in the video of the Kepler effect is because we on earth are observing the planetary object passing the star in an elliptical orbit north to south travelling towards us. The other Kepler observations will be objects passing the same star at different elliptical orbits therefore creating smaller dips as they appear to pass more quickly to us as observers. I am certain that the results would be entirely different if observed from anywhere else except earth.
@MONSTERDR451
@MONSTERDR451 Жыл бұрын
or maybe it's that Alien Threat POTUS Reagan was warning of at the UN...
@aperson22222
@aperson22222 8 жыл бұрын
At 2:39 she says " . . . one of the most mysterious stars in our galaxy." That's a far more modest claim than the video's title promises.
@PresidentialWinner
@PresidentialWinner 8 жыл бұрын
+aperson22222 i noticed that too
@paulsalterego8700
@paulsalterego8700 8 жыл бұрын
At a little after the 6 minute mark. She says "We checked the data, but the data were good." There, I contributed.
@themshourya
@themshourya 8 жыл бұрын
Most mysterious would the methulesa star. It is or at least was believed to be older than the universe itself (which is absolutely retarded).
@TobyShew
@TobyShew 8 жыл бұрын
+CaseOfSpaides data is a plural word - she is correct as she is referring to countable data
@alexandrugheorghe5610
@alexandrugheorghe5610 8 жыл бұрын
+Shourya Mehta "than the universe itself" is that the observable? ;-)
@harpodjangorose9696
@harpodjangorose9696 6 жыл бұрын
I felt a great disturbance in the Forrce. As if millions of flat-earthers cried out in horror and we're suddenly silenced.
@johnstitt2615
@johnstitt2615 6 жыл бұрын
Harpo Django Rose good one...🤣🌎
@tenchu65
@tenchu65 6 жыл бұрын
Yes you were
@ronblouch178
@ronblouch178 6 жыл бұрын
Grammar and spelling. If you are going to go after flat earthers I recommend spelling skills.
@sausagehappymealx9931
@sausagehappymealx9931 6 жыл бұрын
Is earth flat?
@PFWYG
@PFWYG 6 жыл бұрын
Harpo,... You believe a human being can see something that is said to be 1,480 light years away? lmfao - that is absolutely ridiculous.
@MrSean03839
@MrSean03839 5 жыл бұрын
Obviously a new death star weapon being developed by the empire.
@thecutestcuck7978
@thecutestcuck7978 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and we want to make contact. Is it just me or does that sound like a really bad idea?
@Snoogen11
@Snoogen11 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe this time they'll cover the exhaust ports. I'm not holding out much hope though...
@MrSean03839
@MrSean03839 3 жыл бұрын
@@Snoogen11 Nah. When you develop the most powerful weapon in the galaxy you always would want to also build in an easy way to destroy it. LoL!
@ohonesixone
@ohonesixone 10 ай бұрын
Maybe Disney can kill it just like the franchise?
@manilajohn0182
@manilajohn0182 14 күн бұрын
The star in question is almost 1,500 light years away from Earth. At that distance, planetary celestial bodies could be causing the dimming. And this star's by no means the only star which experiences dimming in brightness.
@andy4an
@andy4an 8 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that this star was found by amateurs. This is the sort of thing that I'd kinda like to hear a follow up on, but never expect to.
@superfan7052
@superfan7052 2 жыл бұрын
What is an “amateur”?
@andy4an
@andy4an 2 жыл бұрын
@Super Fan generally, those that do things for fun rather than add a profession. I watched this video 6 years ago and don't remember it.
@DaveWard-xc7vd
@DaveWard-xc7vd 6 жыл бұрын
Whatever this is........it happened a long time ago in a galaxy far far away.
@miasma529
@miasma529 6 жыл бұрын
the "galaxy far far away" is the Milky Way, KIC 8462852 is located in the Milky Way
@DaveWard-xc7vd
@DaveWard-xc7vd 6 жыл бұрын
@@miasma529 I wasnt trying to be scientifically correct. But you are correct.
@Insane3OB
@Insane3OB 6 жыл бұрын
@Furrowed Brow That was just a movie.
@DaveWard-xc7vd
@DaveWard-xc7vd 6 жыл бұрын
@@Insane3OB Thats what they want you to think. It was actually a documentary.
@Insane3OB
@Insane3OB 6 жыл бұрын
@Furrowed Brow I never made a Documentary it was Art.
@osiris5315
@osiris5315 6 жыл бұрын
I thought Tabetha Boyajian was the name of the star
@Captc5766
@Captc5766 6 жыл бұрын
Osiris I did too until I read your comment.
@hrishikeshrajwade8208
@hrishikeshrajwade8208 6 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@captaincringe2595
@captaincringe2595 6 жыл бұрын
Well, in a way you are correct. It is colloquially known as Tabby's Star.
@ShabazDraee
@ShabazDraee 6 жыл бұрын
hahahahha bruh i died
@romeo34889
@romeo34889 6 жыл бұрын
Osiris...dittos and kudos...
@PlanetXMysteries-pj9nm
@PlanetXMysteries-pj9nm Жыл бұрын
I can't express enough how grateful I am for your channel. Your videos have helped me understand complex scientific concepts in an easily digestible way
@alphalex88
@alphalex88 5 жыл бұрын
Her remarks at the end of the video about citizen astronomers put a smile on my face, as no one astronomer is less worthy than another; irregardless of credentials - because anyone can make an observation and anyone can hypothesize a theory.
@0076nicholas
@0076nicholas 4 жыл бұрын
Alex Carreon irregardless is not a word
@t.j.sortino7844
@t.j.sortino7844 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! I believe technology, meaning... easy to use/learn, affordable, cutting-edge at home technology is the future method in which experts in various fields will be made. Already this is happening! Our society is the problem though! Experts are only recognized as true professionals if they have one, or multiple very expensive pieces of paper! I don't think technical colleges, and internships will ever go away. Airline pilots, lawyers, judges, doctors, dentists, surgeons, etc... All professions that require hands on training, and is regulated by government agencies to keep us all safe; will always fully require a certification from an accredited school/corporation.
@jimrobin
@jimrobin 2 жыл бұрын
REGARDLESS* 🙄
@bhall675
@bhall675 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that the main mission had to move on and they had to rely on data from backyard astronomers is a vindication of the unsung scientists.
@wardjohnson2812
@wardjohnson2812 2 жыл бұрын
Regardless
@Achonas
@Achonas 8 жыл бұрын
FINALLY. Something actually rooted in science
@jtoddjb
@jtoddjb 8 жыл бұрын
regardless of aliens or not I think the best takeaway here is citizen science. Citizen science isn't restricted by religion, politics, or whatever. It would also be much more difficult to control or filter a thousand backyard scientists rather than just a few recognized scientific establishments. The possibilities could be endless as technology brings more ability to the citizen scientist.
@patrickbyrne5070
@patrickbyrne5070 8 жыл бұрын
Well said dude
@chrisjpritchard
@chrisjpritchard Жыл бұрын
Observation 1 . There is an unimaginable actual tangible distance between us and this star with countless objects ,smaller than the resolution and sampling in the analogue /digital optical lens processor of Kepler. The aggregate of these objects can eventually create random clean and noisy transition signatures. Observation 2 . Remember that we are looking at a tiny, less than a fraction of space , and so this pattern will be repeated else where just by statistical calculation . Observation 3 : Large bodies orbiting other stars can create transition shadows as Kepler can not digitally distinguish the x.y,z axis profile of that space block at that distance using 'one axis 'of reference and relative observation. Even with Kepler orbit, this reference positioning for data acquisition needs to be extended by distance factor of x100 in all x,y,z planes to get more accurate data. Although its good to recognise a pattern its impossible to link any assumptions of Alien existence at this stage. We observe an anomaly to the 'typical' we can say.
@firenationfiles2063
@firenationfiles2063 6 жыл бұрын
KIC 8462852 is 1,480 light years away. *We are seeing what it looked like 1,480 years ago.*
@firenationfiles2063
@firenationfiles2063 6 жыл бұрын
I copied someone from 1,480 years ago?
@thomaskuiper3355
@thomaskuiper3355 6 жыл бұрын
No bro
@thomaskuiper3355
@thomaskuiper3355 6 жыл бұрын
Didnt they teach you science on school?
@HenryPerez_royal_hp
@HenryPerez_royal_hp 6 жыл бұрын
Fire Nation Files what? No bro 🤦‍♂️
@thomaskuiper3355
@thomaskuiper3355 6 жыл бұрын
No the expanse of space in the universe what means is that it is 3 times more distance
@ΑρχηνΘείαδίκη
@ΑρχηνΘείαδίκη 5 жыл бұрын
A debris field of two collided celestial bodies (two large solid planets now shattered into pieces) in an elliptical shape trapped orbiting the star would create such a light diminishing pattern. As far as the time period. The closer the object is to the sun, the longer it blocks light. The further the object, the shorter the duration. I don't feel like doing the math to give exact times and sizes, but you get the idea, and using some calculations you could recreate the hypothetical cloud of debris. So, two planets collided and created a large debris field around what remains of their cores so that gravity keeps them and their debris dancing around each other in a tight elliptical orbit (think rings of Saturn on a massive debris scale and angled in such a way as to create this light pattern to observers here). Highly plausible considering there's a high probability of many rogue planets drifting between solar systems, ejected by larger bodies in their host systems to drift alone through space until a sun draws them in (an event that may have very well occurred in our own solar system to give our current planetary alignments to the sun). If aliens were sufficiently advanced to build a structure so large, they'd be more likely to build a Dyson sphere and you wouldn't see the star at all because they'd be absorbing most of it's energy.
@sliceofchee
@sliceofchee 5 жыл бұрын
Or its a GIANT planet being formed from an asteroid belt which would eliminate the dust issue. These scientists are rather dim today.
@ΑρχηνΘείαδίκη
@ΑρχηνΘείαδίκη 5 жыл бұрын
@@sliceofchee Also highly plausible. Not all scientists jump immediately to fantastic conclusions. However, far too often 'experts' allow imaginations to override logical deduction. Eventually however they backtrack (once someone states the obvious) and begin thinking like scientists again. So there's always hope lol
@ernerwerkhardt9789
@ernerwerkhardt9789 5 жыл бұрын
its
@2011Azure
@2011Azure 5 жыл бұрын
@@ernerwerkhardt9789 No, ... " it's ". i.e. a contraction of " it is ".
@ernerwerkhardt9789
@ernerwerkhardt9789 5 жыл бұрын
@@2011Azure not that one, this one: "they'd be more likely to build a Dyson sphere and you wouldn't see the star at all because they'd be absorbing most of it's energy" Not "it's" but "its", the possessive form of it. The most common grammatical error in the English language. Made worse by autocorrect in all of today's smart phones, who will always autocorrect "its" with "it's".
@aeolisticwill
@aeolisticwill 8 жыл бұрын
She's not saying Aliens but... Aliens.
@unvergebeneid
@unvergebeneid 8 жыл бұрын
It's never aliens. It just might be aliens though.
@rodluvan1976
@rodluvan1976 8 жыл бұрын
+Mark William eh, she did say Alien Megastructures and Aliens
@Tbonyandsteak
@Tbonyandsteak 8 жыл бұрын
+Mark William The A word
@lessthanlucas
@lessthanlucas 8 жыл бұрын
+Grizz Frank Dude. Pour yourself a glass of water. Is the surface (away from the edges of the glass) perfectly flat? I think you would find that it is. Blow on the water. It ripples, but does the average height of the water remain the same? It does. Try these things with a pail of water, then a tub. Do the properties remain the same? Look at a lake. Again, the surface, on average, is completely level. So why do ships on the ocean vanish over the horizon? They are still perfectly visible, yet they appear to be sinking down into the water. (All ships do this and this is easily verifiable if you are willing to spend a clear day at a port.) A flat earth would have flat water and you'd be able to see the ships until they were out of sight.
@lessthanlucas
@lessthanlucas 8 жыл бұрын
+Grizz Frank Um, no you can't do that. The ship actually appears to be sinking. As in, from the your position, the deck appears to lower into the water at a steady progression. Vanishing perspective is a linear phenomenon, mapped with straight lines. A straight line could not cause an object's position to move out of plane. Plus, on a clear day, you can totally see things up to 10 miles away.
@refnref954
@refnref954 11 ай бұрын
Her mind is as clear as crystal. She knew each and every thing she was saying, even though i am a not a native english speaker, i understood her words very easily and clearly. I envy her🥺
@BalefulHead
@BalefulHead 5 жыл бұрын
I'm thrilled you gave this Ted talk. I've participated in various Zooniverse research efforts since my time in college Astronomy class. I hadn't heard any follow ups until this. Awesome. Thanks.
@rrni2343
@rrni2343 8 жыл бұрын
We probably live in an alternate universe where those poor sods got selected to be terminated to make room for a new hyperspace express route.
@bistro4
@bistro4 8 жыл бұрын
And they probably didn't even bother reading the plans that had been on display for 50 years. Apathetic bloody planet. I have no sympathy at all.
@MrDasmaster
@MrDasmaster 8 жыл бұрын
+Cate Vogons! P.S Thanks for the poetry.
@iamtenzin4409
@iamtenzin4409 8 жыл бұрын
+shayne g And all the fish!
@bistro4
@bistro4 8 жыл бұрын
Now that's poetry. I can just hear the readers dropping like flies from the internal hemorrhaging you caused them. Just marvelous.
@rrni2343
@rrni2343 8 жыл бұрын
My left side suddenly went numb after reading the first line.. and I seem to be missing my spleen. Oh?! I din't know I had this much blood...
@itsMinuteMaid
@itsMinuteMaid 8 жыл бұрын
Perhaps it's a planet (or planets) orbiting another star that just happens to pass between us and that other star. I mean, that thing is nearly 1,500 light years away, so there's quite a few possibilities of what may be causing the disturbances.
@basicnpcc
@basicnpcc 8 жыл бұрын
Very unlikely explanation for this data over such a short time span (few years). If the dip in the light happened once, possibly. Twice, maybe. Consistently like this? Very unlikely. Space is 99.9999% absolutely nothing. To block out that much light from a star it would take multiple very large objects (relatively speaking) passing between us and the star. This number of disturbances is what makes it statistically unlikely that what you said occurred.
@TazzM
@TazzM 8 жыл бұрын
+God Gabe How do we know the assumed artificial object is that large. Could it be a much smaller object close enough from the point of observation blocking that star's light entirely?
@basicnpcc
@basicnpcc 8 жыл бұрын
Tazz M If it were, then this would be happening to many of the stars observed, not just this star this many times. If this were a regular occurrence with the data, they wouldn't make such a big deal about it happening a couple of times.
@TazzM
@TazzM 8 жыл бұрын
That's quite a good point there. I appreciate if you could say something about the size of the object blocking the star in this particular case, can the observers detect distances- I'm totally a layman, so I'm not sure about technology being used. Thanks!
@igesio
@igesio 8 жыл бұрын
What a coincidence that I found you here! Are you ever gonna make videos again?
@bluesmon54321
@bluesmon54321 2 жыл бұрын
Would it be helpful to have the Webb telescope train its sights on the star for a while?
@jamesrussell7760
@jamesrussell7760 9 күн бұрын
Ah, interesting idea. JWST sees in the infrared more than any of our other telescopes. Tabetha told us she doesn't think there is a Dyson Sphere because there isn't enough heat (ie., infrared), but 8 years ago (2016) when she gave this TED talk, JWST would not be launched until Dec 2021 and come online until mid 2022. Stay tuned.
@TheGrowingWallet
@TheGrowingWallet 5 жыл бұрын
What if they are sending us a message using the light fluctuations...... 🤔
@davidtyson6869
@davidtyson6869 5 жыл бұрын
Good evening show I would like to see you are connected 2 more than you know and they will never understand the disagreeable they understand the 666 year it's up the whole solar system it's rotating and changing have you not notice how the Earth within 20 years have changed and the flickering of light that they see it is not something getting in the way it is your ancestors am I nice who are on their way here thank you
@michaelkochalka3251
@michaelkochalka3251 5 жыл бұрын
​@@davidtyson6869 Proper use of punctuation in a sentence or paragraph is the key to convey a meaningful message.
@heretikal
@heretikal 5 жыл бұрын
Big brain time =-O
@TheGrowingWallet
@TheGrowingWallet 5 жыл бұрын
@@michaelkochalka3251 man, I thought I was just trippin fam. Lmfao
@enroute6955
@enroute6955 5 жыл бұрын
Morse code
@EdTube444
@EdTube444 8 жыл бұрын
If I lived in a sufficiently advanced society wishing to send a message across the galaxy I would use my local star to send a message. We can see the light from stars thousands of light years away. I would use a flotilla of satellites stretching Mylar like sheets broad enough to block star light alternately.
@HungLionSmokes
@HungLionSmokes 8 жыл бұрын
+Edward Owens still bounded by the speed of light and the delays therof
@EdTube444
@EdTube444 8 жыл бұрын
Deviantfulness Of course. To communicate faster than the speed of light you might use quantum entanglement which is seemingly instantaneous. Problem with that is finding the right quanta being manipulated, figuring out how it is being manipulated, and then decoding it. Kind of like a quadrillion strings stretched for great distances and short distances and in no particular direction and plucking one or two and then finding the end of those particular strings. Unless an advanced society has figured out how to find quanta in the vicinity of another civilization or to listen in or eavesdrop on quanta from all over the universe. We will probably be extinct before we get that smart.
@MrTreebeard420
@MrTreebeard420 8 жыл бұрын
So you are telling me we were getting a message in some type of giant star light Morse code, and right when communication was getting chatty Kepler stop and we will never get the message?
@EdTube444
@EdTube444 8 жыл бұрын
MrTreebeard420 I'm saying that would be one of the best ways to send a message a good distance across a galaxy. Star light travels thousands of light years. It wouldn't have to even be a coherent message no more than waving your arms and jumping up and down is anything more than calling attention to yourself when stranded on a desert island and you spot a ship. When you think about it planets are islands in the cosmos.
@EdTube444
@EdTube444 8 жыл бұрын
Also if you subscribe to the Rampaging Nano Bot Swarm Theory then then even if you had the technology to build a Dyson Sphere or more likely a ring, given the amount of material involved, is to invite attack. So even if you had the technology would you not use it for fear of drawing unwanted attention. Another possibility is shepherding masses of large asteroids and dwarf planets into close proximity to each other to produce the effect of alternately dimming star light and draw attention that way. Maybe it's a last ditch effort to draw attention to a dying world.
@odinsmeadhorn196
@odinsmeadhorn196 8 жыл бұрын
"Dyson: we don't just do vacuum cleaners"
@kgtc
@kgtc 6 жыл бұрын
we do spheres
@autohmae
@autohmae 6 жыл бұрын
KGT UserCast actually, they are working on batteries and cars now too I believe. Who knows if they'll do spheres in the future too.
@damianwattimena4128
@damianwattimena4128 6 жыл бұрын
Crack up
@purpletac.9423
@purpletac.9423 5 жыл бұрын
this is good
@alexoelkers2292
@alexoelkers2292 5 жыл бұрын
It really is a advanced vacuum cleaner...
@hafsasharmin6980
@hafsasharmin6980 3 жыл бұрын
I'm here from a book where I've read about tabetha and I thought tabetha is a male person but she is 'she' 🥰🥰🥰And of course sooo much proud of you🥰 (I'm a bagladeshi so I couldn't catch the name)
@MonoLith2049
@MonoLith2049 8 жыл бұрын
WARNING!! Flat earthers may find this content disturbing!
@lachdenan9875
@lachdenan9875 7 жыл бұрын
I suppose I will worry about that more when they start censoring anti-flat-Earth content. Or perhaps when they take over government, media, and banking and create every problem worldwide--or even some problems. If they become a bunch of pseudointellectual tryhards afraid of debate like the typical college-goer, then I will be 100% in favor of going to war with them. Until then, they remain mistaken, but relatively harmless.
@joem80003
@joem80003 7 жыл бұрын
I was going to say that too, If they are going to fake something they have to make up data so well it would be not seen as fakery from others.
@anarchyantz1564
@anarchyantz1564 7 жыл бұрын
As long as you mention the disk is supported on the backs of 4 giant elephants which stand atop the great A'Tuin you have covered all the bases then :)
@iainmcmullan6049
@iainmcmullan6049 7 жыл бұрын
lol at foil-hatters gone full Lizard- Earth's a toroid, wise-up!
@alunchurcher7060
@alunchurcher7060 7 жыл бұрын
americans be warned trump is most probably a flat earth idiot, he believes in conspiracy theories and ufo's are alien ships. lmfao.
@JAMAICADOCK
@JAMAICADOCK 7 жыл бұрын
makes sense of why Stephen Hawking recently said 'don't make contact'.
@Xanderfied
@Xanderfied 5 жыл бұрын
Again, turns out it was another moth. Just a moth.
@kellybottoms57
@kellybottoms57 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@mqwerty9564
@mqwerty9564 4 жыл бұрын
The Bell Curve by Charles Murray.... read it.
@alanpdrv
@alanpdrv 4 жыл бұрын
We found the bug
@Xanderfied
@Xanderfied 4 жыл бұрын
Would you like to know more?
@ChrisM541
@ChrisM541 Жыл бұрын
So, here's the big question - what kind of shockingly poor computer programming is involved is order to miss those multiple, MASSIVE (compared to the baseline) drops in signal?? The non-uniformity (as a massive 'clue') SHOULD also have been detected by that same 'search' programming. --> Honestly, there is some serious questions to be asked about this, and makes us wonder at the overall 'quality' of the science being undertaken here. Additionally... 1) The 'observable' universe is currently believed to be around 93 billion light years across. This is what we can 'see' from Earth or from our space telescopes. 2) The entire universe is currently believed to be around......wait for it...........9.................TRILLION light years across.
@feldhaser
@feldhaser 6 жыл бұрын
have they ruled out an object blocking the light in a much much closer distance to us? Since then it wouldn't have to be anything as big in comparison
@unimornnbr1
@unimornnbr1 6 жыл бұрын
An object large enough like this would have already been detected and would cause giant anomalies
@feldhaser
@feldhaser 6 жыл бұрын
could you elaborate?
@hectorandem2944
@hectorandem2944 6 жыл бұрын
It might be, but that alone doesn't account for the irregular (non-'u'-shaped transitions) they observed - which is the crux of the problem.
@feldhaser
@feldhaser 6 жыл бұрын
since then size can be smaller, probability for objects not being round is higher, which easier fits the shape required to make the dents in the graph.
@feldhaser
@feldhaser 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not saying that is the case here, just trying to wrap my head around the video I randomly stumbled upon, and looking forward to hearing of someone knowing the space basics telling me why that can't be
@SahilP2648
@SahilP2648 8 жыл бұрын
What if the star is revolving around a black hole? It would distort the light rays such that some rays would get bent and their trajectory would totally change to some place else and the rest go back to earth. Also, since black hole's pull is quite significantly larger than any star's, the star's orbit could be very very large and that's why probably we can see a 20% intensity drop for around a 100 days.
@Sickheadz268
@Sickheadz268 8 жыл бұрын
I think the star is stationary
@SahilP2648
@SahilP2648 8 жыл бұрын
It looks certainly possible. Look at this: www.space.com/20303-black-hole-star-speed-record.html
@Poolshark79
@Poolshark79 8 жыл бұрын
The star isn't moving.
@madeincda
@madeincda 8 жыл бұрын
So far this is the smartest comment I've read... And stars are always moving. Seems quite impossible for an object in space to be "stationary". If any given celestial body has a companion I can almost guarantee it's being pulled to some degree even if it is only slight.
@SahilP2648
@SahilP2648 8 жыл бұрын
madeincda Thanks :)
@Animeeater25
@Animeeater25 8 жыл бұрын
What if it was multiple planets with very close orbits, so that sometimes two (or more) planets are superimposed unpon eachother. This could explain why the light gradually dims more and more, a planet in a closer orbit is moving faster than one in a farther away orbit. As the closer planet is moving out from behind the farther away planet, the shadow cast would slowly become larger until the two planets are completely separated, which would also explain the quick jump back up to expected levels.
@lqr824
@lqr824 Жыл бұрын
Good, yes, but even 100s of Jupiters' worth of planets wouldn't block that much light. And, there'd be more periodicity. And, we'd see similar curves as they entered the space between us and the star then moved back out.
@Psycandy
@Psycandy 5 жыл бұрын
surely if the graph repeats in a cyclical fashion you could separate what is orbiting the star and what is traveling obliquely, i.e. interstellar matter traveling toward us. The rotational periods are not mentioned, so assuming there is no rsimilar data in Kepler's 4-year scan, on this or any other star in the scan region, you would have to assume a massive, irregular body in orbit (yielding a pronounced star wobble) or an interstellar body on a different trajectory.
@SilviaBa
@SilviaBa 5 жыл бұрын
Psycandy Flying above a crop circle this summer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3Wcl52LlJZ5f7s
@cartoonkiller8805
@cartoonkiller8805 5 жыл бұрын
I know this will get lost in the comments but when I'm alone I like to go in my garden cover myself with dirt and pretend I'm a carrot....
@williamiannucci2740
@williamiannucci2740 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@alfansosimon4230
@alfansosimon4230 5 жыл бұрын
Best comment
@gregoryreese8491
@gregoryreese8491 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, yeah okay, and?
@korolev-musictodriveby6583
@korolev-musictodriveby6583 5 жыл бұрын
So what’s eating you , man ?
@tripzville7569
@tripzville7569 5 жыл бұрын
love it
@zerospin876
@zerospin876 8 жыл бұрын
It's not a star, its the blinking eye of a giant cosmic space hamster.
@kebabji
@kebabji 8 жыл бұрын
nailed it
@alexandrugheorghe5610
@alexandrugheorghe5610 8 жыл бұрын
+zerospin If it would be, we would see the same U shape dim. Just sayin'...
@deschain1910
@deschain1910 8 жыл бұрын
+Alexandru Gheorghe It just has a weird blink. Clearly it got something in its eye, proven by the erratic blinking toward the end of the data pool.
@peanuts2105
@peanuts2105 8 жыл бұрын
+zerospin thank you for making me spit my tea put while laughing!
@alexandrugheorghe5610
@alexandrugheorghe5610 8 жыл бұрын
Hihihi :-) so much fun!
@megachax3452
@megachax3452 5 жыл бұрын
The astronomer in me is so happy i clicked on this video
@nukeynuke1497
@nukeynuke1497 3 жыл бұрын
On god
@cris33311
@cris33311 4 жыл бұрын
when you look at something far away with a binocular and a closer object is trespassing your sight very close to your binocular , you will see that the object or person is blocking a lot from your view sight making it to look huge and endless. What if these blocking sunlight cuts off are caused by some random (closer to us) huge asteroids tresspassing the sight of the telescope sensor ? Is it possible ?
@manasyadav1993
@manasyadav1993 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but what would it be orbiting around? It can’t be our sun otherwise you would see similar fluctuations around other stars as well in that deep field. The trouble with that explanation is how periodic that dimming signal is. I also thought the same btw.
@David-Field.Stuff01
@David-Field.Stuff01 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@ashkemp
@ashkemp 3 жыл бұрын
I would say it could be the planets that are orbiting that star might have a similar orbiting time cycle and align every few years thus making it appear like the graph the scientist are presenting. Maybe, it requires extended period of observation to prove this.. But, just imagine even planets in our Solar system align every 1000 years in the same plane. If the star is young and the planetary system has just formed they may be circling the star faster and hence align more frequently.. Just a theory..
@affugter
@affugter 3 жыл бұрын
@@ashkemp hypothesis
@bonafide183
@bonafide183 2 жыл бұрын
P0o.
@henrykater9728
@henrykater9728 6 жыл бұрын
My guess is a massive asteroid field large enough and dense enough to act like a giant light screen or filter, on a flat plane. It would explain the duration, the erratic shapes and its hap-hazard nature as the field is not always in line with our line of sight. The further out the orbit of the field, the larger the relative size of it compared to its star.
@rjones6801
@rjones6801 6 жыл бұрын
But at this distance the relative size of the object to the star itself with the perspective you're talking about is basically a non-issue. We're too far away to notice a change in size to that degree. It'd have to be something much further in the foreground - not part of that solar system at all.
@PiDsPagePrototypes
@PiDsPagePrototypes 8 жыл бұрын
Really? Isn't it obvious? First dip is a Jupiter class planet with a Super-Earth sized moon. Second dip is the same, but the moon is in a different part of it's orbit. Third dip, multiple planets, in close alignment. Heck, the whole thing can be a series of alignment events, especially if there's any resonance to the orbits.
@samvchess6266
@samvchess6266 6 жыл бұрын
"Earth is 11 times smaller than Jupiter." This sounded off to me, but she means by diameter not by volume, which is where most people's minds go to. By volume, Earth is actually 1300 times smaller.
@samvchess6266
@samvchess6266 5 жыл бұрын
@Android Galaxy I wish that if people claim to be an authority, they got their facts straight before posting.
@derekwiffen1115
@derekwiffen1115 2 жыл бұрын
I would really love to see an update on where thinking about this star is today. What new evidence is there and what is the current thinking?
@IamsTokiWartooth
@IamsTokiWartooth 6 жыл бұрын
an opaque object, like a planet or alien megastructure was passing in front of the star, it would block both red and blue light the same amount, says Wright. However, the astronomers found that blue light was blocked much more than red light during the star’s dimming. Since blue light has much shorter wavelengths than red light, it’s much more easily blocked by smaller materials, such as fine grains like dust. “This is characteristic of something that’s filtering the light,” says Wright. “That’s what you get when you have dust.”
@rogerstorrs8679
@rogerstorrs8679 5 жыл бұрын
Hey it was still a fun ride - maybe the resulting dust-structure might be a bit 'exotic' too ?
@MustardNketchup
@MustardNketchup Ай бұрын
So dust is blocking 20% of light? But when Jupiter rolls in front of the sun it's only a 1% loss of light..your logic is...flawed
@spruxo
@spruxo 6 жыл бұрын
"Planets are circular" Flatearthers TRIGGERED
@RJ67.
@RJ67. 6 жыл бұрын
Riddle me this. Mickey, Why is it when I do a time lapse of stars the line I get from each and every star is the exact same length be them close or far away as if they are all in the same distance away? When a closer star should have a longer trail than a far star would. Yet my observation is always the same distance of trails. When the further star away should have a visibly shorter star trail on a circular pattern, if you follow what I'm saying. Should it not?
@CMDAO
@CMDAO 6 жыл бұрын
call me a stick in the mud but why do people seem to mix "circular" with 3 Dimensional? I mean a flat circle is not at the peak of impossible things is it? Or is that not what you meant?
@spruxo
@spruxo 6 жыл бұрын
@@CMDAO Flatearther, triggered!!!
@CMDAO
@CMDAO 6 жыл бұрын
@@spruxo Lol typical reply. And here I was actually hoping you'd clarify your point so maybe it all finally makes sense. But I'll have to keep being a triggered flatearther instead I guess. Thanks for taking the time to give your 2 cents though. Definitely glad we got to have that intelligent discussion.
@spruxo
@spruxo 6 жыл бұрын
Okay, ill entertain you. I should've said spherical rather than circular. There ya go bud@@CMDAO
@pdoylemi
@pdoylemi 8 жыл бұрын
What about this - not a Dyson sphere (which should make the star invisible) but rather a civilization that has constructed several arrays of space-based solar panels that beam energy to a planet? Perhaps there are even several of them of varying sizes as the technology to build them changes. These combined with several planets in the plane of our eliptic _might_ cause these odd effects.
@coreygraham860
@coreygraham860 7 жыл бұрын
What you're describing is a Dyson sphere that is under construction.
@pdoylemi
@pdoylemi 7 жыл бұрын
+Corey Graham No, I'm not, but that would also be a possible explanation.
@glutinousmaximus
@glutinousmaximus 5 жыл бұрын
... Carl Sagan was paraphrasing Steven Weinberg - the originator of the quote: "Extraordinary claims require Extraordinary evidence".
@7788Sambaboy
@7788Sambaboy 4 жыл бұрын
Or was it David Hume, or Pierre-Simon de Laplace, or Marcello Truzzi...or does it matter? One has to be quite famous and well know and published to have famous quotes
@Yoctopory
@Yoctopory 8 жыл бұрын
In the end she sais "This star would have never been found by computers because we were just not looking for something like this". Well that sounds a little weird to me. Clearly there is an abnormality in the data that a computer could recognize as such? If it doesn't fit into a previously determined category, don't they have a folder named "other"?
@cyalknight
@cyalknight 8 жыл бұрын
Yoctopory Only if it was programmed that way. In the Jurrasic Park book the computer was programmed to look for X number of dinosaurs in each pen. The computer was saying all of them were in the pen, yet there were still dinosaurs on the loose.
@Yoctopory
@Yoctopory 8 жыл бұрын
Yes I understand that. My point is that it seems fairly easy to write the program in a way that it could detect abnomalities like the one she shows. If you handle big data you have to look for abnomalities that don't fit your categories for later investigation.
@danhaynes446
@danhaynes446 7 жыл бұрын
" If you handle big data you have to look for abnomalities " Someone has to pay for the time and effort to create the algorithms to look for things we don't know about/don't expect. There's an unbounded project. Good luck selling that to management. Feel free to define "abnormalities that don't fit your categories" well enough to hand to a software development team as product or story definition, or even to sell to management as worthwhile. The mission of the team was to find planets, not poke around looking for weird data. The data is saved. Someone else/some future project or other project can look for anomalies - exactly as they did. They used the least expensive and most efficient method of discovery: crowdsourcing. Crowdsourcing to ordinary people even outperforms experienced intelligence analysts in the CIA. They did the right thing IMO. Still bullshit for her to even mention aliens and solar panels when we already know Earth had a collision that formed the moon and would have created quite a messy clump of junk orbiting. Not to mention that if they really are solar panels, there should be upward spikes in brightness when light reflects off the structures/panels. Occam's razor says it's something unusual but completely natural. Sensationalist hype says "It could be purpose built twirling space pyramids built by aliens!" :\
@lazyskull7949
@lazyskull7949 7 жыл бұрын
Hopefully the James Webb Space Telescope will give us more insight about this star in 2018.
@domsau2
@domsau2 7 жыл бұрын
Launch reported.
@AyushKumar-yj1ll
@AyushKumar-yj1ll 6 жыл бұрын
James space telescope will not measure flux
@sivarajkumar7287
@sivarajkumar7287 6 жыл бұрын
2020🤐
@galaxy-wy9sd
@galaxy-wy9sd 6 жыл бұрын
Did it?
@eliassosa9530
@eliassosa9530 6 жыл бұрын
Jacob - it's been delayed. JWST won't launch until 2021 now.
@parthsachan3140
@parthsachan3140 4 жыл бұрын
The kind of TED Talks we need more
@lqr824
@lqr824 Жыл бұрын
This is frankly the worst I've ever seen. Her main idea is that "computers can't find this," but that's not true. Computers can easily find things like this, if programmed to look. The real question isn't about the star, it's about what in the heck the NASA programmers were doing that their software didn't note these huge anomalies? So: the entire thesis of the talk is incorrect. Why the heck do you think we need more such talks?
@codedecode878
@codedecode878 5 жыл бұрын
if NASA was involved, make sure you backup that data, don't want them to first lose the data and then destroy the technology!
@2bituser569
@2bituser569 5 жыл бұрын
Haha.
@nicolep2424
@nicolep2424 5 жыл бұрын
Baaaaahahaha! I'm smelling what you are cooking
@gregoryreese8491
@gregoryreese8491 5 жыл бұрын
Look out, behind you, boo!
@erinjay8431
@erinjay8431 5 жыл бұрын
Lol true dat!
@3vimages471
@3vimages471 5 жыл бұрын
And poor NASA isn't helped the fact that computers are 60 trillion quadrillion more powerful than in 1969! PS; Love your comment 10/10 stars.
@amysemanek8326
@amysemanek8326 6 жыл бұрын
can't it just be something closer than that star system getting in the way such as a planet or comet from another star appearing larger because it is closer?
@isedie
@isedie 6 жыл бұрын
thats what i was thinking...strange that if Im on the surface of the sun and raise my hand no light would be blocked from our planet....but I can block the sun from my eyes with my thumb on the surface of the earth. Hope I explained that correctly.
@johndunlop823
@johndunlop823 6 жыл бұрын
There's a lot of distance between objects in space. the reason we can see this dimming effect is because objects are orbiting stars. The odds of objects happening to pass between us and a star 1480 light years away repeatedly are astronomical, pun intended.
@TheAlanX2
@TheAlanX2 6 жыл бұрын
yeah, that's called "relativity"
@TheAlanX2
@TheAlanX2 6 жыл бұрын
That's why Kepler looked at many many star systems. the odds are astronomical, that means you have to look at a lot to see it, but it does exist because (don't forget it is it is possible.)
@craigfulton3316
@craigfulton3316 6 жыл бұрын
That didn't make for a good video.👅
@eddiegaltek
@eddiegaltek 8 жыл бұрын
What about a triple planet system orbiting the star? You could get weird light curves depending on how the planets are orbiting each other as they pass in-front of the star.
@VerisimilitudeDude
@VerisimilitudeDude 8 жыл бұрын
+eddiegaltek Even then it wouldn't generate a 15% drop in the star light.
@Hartcore11
@Hartcore11 8 жыл бұрын
+eddiegaltek Was thinking the same thing. Perhaps the huge planet also has orbiting body that is also massive. If it's orbit is inclined to a significant degree then perhaps it previously did not come into play blocking the stars light. The Dysons sphere I think is to far fetched.
@constantinethetrickster9661
@constantinethetrickster9661 8 жыл бұрын
+Hartcore11 Could it be something in our Solar system? Asteroids getting in the line of sight? I agree a Dyson sphere is very Far fetched. I don't like that system of measuring galactic civilisations.
@OutstandingBill1
@OutstandingBill1 24 күн бұрын
Could it be a three star system in which one of the stars emits much less light than the others?
@zsuzsannaklein4905
@zsuzsannaklein4905 14 күн бұрын
This is an interesting idea!
@ryuk2544
@ryuk2544 8 жыл бұрын
IF, aliens are smart enough to do the technologies suggested, I would also think they are smart enough to know that this weird pattern of light, is a way to get the attention of other life around the galaxy. Maybe the question should be, what is the most effective way, to communicate across the galaxy, that there is other life?
@teleportmassive537
@teleportmassive537 8 жыл бұрын
your on to something!
@VincentBarrios
@VincentBarrios 8 жыл бұрын
Never thought of that! Could be true.
@bbdawise
@bbdawise 8 жыл бұрын
+Andre Sizac All interesting insights! I'd like to expand on one: If they are advanced enough to build a dyson sphere then I think it's safe to assume they also have intimate knowledge of the surrounding galaxy. They probably know about any potential rivals in the area already. They could be the most powerful and advanced civilization in the entire galaxy and damn well know it too. One thing I have to wonder is what exactly would they be doing with all the energy they collect from even a partial dyson sphere?! Are they traveling to other dimensions or setting up a wormhole network? The alien/sci fi rabbit hole only gets deeper the more you pursue it xD
@pr0kris
@pr0kris 8 жыл бұрын
+Ryu K I imagine is some civilization out there was to built such a gigantic and powerful structure, then they would build it such that the dips in light were unmistakably intelligent. For example, the dips could be divisible by a series of prime numbers or something similar - basically something that's extremely unlikely to happen by chance. It's fun to play with the idea that maybe aliens did this, but as she says in the video, it's still much more likely that it's some natural phenomena that we simply haven't figured out yet.
@yeahbitchphysics864
@yeahbitchphysics864 8 жыл бұрын
+Ryu K damn
@Jack194343
@Jack194343 8 жыл бұрын
I would bet my money on a natural explanation for this phenomenon rather than any kind of alien activity.
@deschain1910
@deschain1910 8 жыл бұрын
+Jack194343 It's strange how people say things like this. I suppose it's just common vernacular. However, technically, alien activity would also be a natural explanation. Unless you put forward a supernatural explanation, every explanation is a natural explanation.
@shmookins
@shmookins 8 жыл бұрын
+Deschain19 Natural as apposed to artificial. For example, some of the gases and radiation coming out of Earth is artificially caused/made by humans. It is one of the techniques used to try and figure out if an a plant has life or not-or intelligent or not.
@gelmir7322
@gelmir7322 8 жыл бұрын
+Daniel Carroll Life and the evolution of a sentient organism (and all of the consequences of their activities) are, tehcnically, Naturally-occuring phenomena... well at least as far as Earth is concern.
@SKillKonfirmed
@SKillKonfirmed 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I think based on our "time" frame compared to the universe, we are just a poor of existence. I do not think that any other life like ours can or will exist at the same "time".
@Jack194343
@Jack194343 8 жыл бұрын
+Beef Supreme Considering the vastness of space and the tenacity of life, I think there must be other intelligence out there. However, when you consider all the conditions necessary to design and manufacture advanced technology, I expect such life must be extremely rare. An octopus, giraffe, or snake for example, might have the genius of Einstein, but for numerous reasons could not design and manufacture an electrical circuit or produce a telescope capable of searching deep space. It is likely that in our galaxy, we truly are alone.
@Bubba1025
@Bubba1025 8 жыл бұрын
I think they are seeing multiple planet all passing through at once but in different positions
@Nortrid
@Nortrid 8 жыл бұрын
hmmmm, if a planet/planets orbit a star it would have a regular circuit, but they observed the anomalies in random periods of time
@Nortrid
@Nortrid 8 жыл бұрын
and total different shapes everytime
@Nortrid
@Nortrid 8 жыл бұрын
ok but how you explain the difference of appearance in total different period of times? when a planet/planets orbit a star it pass a certain point from exact period of time to another.
@Nortrid
@Nortrid 8 жыл бұрын
and how can some spheric objects make a sharp shape?
@anthonyc199714
@anthonyc199714 8 жыл бұрын
I see what you mean, kind of like a rare advent of planets aligning at another star?
@martinwyke
@martinwyke 10 ай бұрын
Given asymmetry surely someone ran a fourier transform on the data, what did that show?
@pmiked4792
@pmiked4792 7 ай бұрын
I wondered that as well.
@AnubisEvalyna
@AnubisEvalyna 2 жыл бұрын
Always stick with the most rational explanation. It's another star nearby messing with the light using it's gravitational field. And sometimes their astroids collide making dust clouds. They are now called KIC8462852A and KIC8462852B.
@rayagoldendropofsun397
@rayagoldendropofsun397 2 жыл бұрын
There's no such thing as Gravitational Field, even better Gravity is a myth
@DexterHaven
@DexterHaven 2 жыл бұрын
@@rayagoldendropofsun397 You can't even write 'gravity' correctly. 'Gravity' is a proper name, so who cares.
@rayagoldendropofsun397
@rayagoldendropofsun397 2 жыл бұрын
@@DexterHaven Proper grammar is important, keep it up ! Is that all U got in defense of your beloved Gravity ?
@DexterHaven
@DexterHaven 2 жыл бұрын
@@rayagoldendropofsun397 You sound like an idiot and are stuck on stupid. You still can't spell it in lower case. And you are the one dodging your burden of proof, since you asserted that Gravity is a myth at the outset. On what grounds do you base that thesis, dummy?
@warcriminalforhire1828
@warcriminalforhire1828 Жыл бұрын
@@rayagoldendropofsun397 look how disgustingly ad hominem and aggressive you are, typical for conspiracy theorists who have nothing to back up their feverdreams
@onderozenc4470
@onderozenc4470 5 жыл бұрын
The phenomenon looks like a huge artificial lense orbiting the star to focus the energy to the orbiting planet behind.
@pimpslayer9109
@pimpslayer9109 3 жыл бұрын
I just imagined this recently, imagine something like that could be possible for us, like a giant lense that sits on half of the sun amplifying its energy, maybe using a series of lenses or something, focussing it to a point, i think its theoretically possible but
@onderozenc4470
@onderozenc4470 3 жыл бұрын
@@pimpslayer9109 Yes, to focus the sun energy to collect in the lithium batteries in the orbit and use it back on the earth is an utopia for us at the moment because of our very limited mobility. But, this is how the developed extraterrestrial beings are satisfying their energy needs.
@juliangeorge1722
@juliangeorge1722 8 жыл бұрын
The universe is the most amazing thing in the world. Oh wait.... That didn't make any sense =/
@RMeitzen
@RMeitzen 8 жыл бұрын
+Julian George Makes sense in the figurative.
@techaxe5051
@techaxe5051 8 жыл бұрын
+Julian George It does make sense... Because this thing you call reality... IS A FAKE, DUN DUN DUN DUNNNNNN. Our universe is on "Their" Planet.
@CarrotSurvivor
@CarrotSurvivor 8 жыл бұрын
+Julian George hahaha lmfaoo
@cuntinakia8122
@cuntinakia8122 8 жыл бұрын
+Julian George "The universe is the most amazing thing in the world." Next to: "Cats are the cutest Cats in the world"
@huaren6229
@huaren6229 8 жыл бұрын
That's TED for you.
@jewelopotamus
@jewelopotamus 7 ай бұрын
Do we know any more about this?
@petes5863
@petes5863 2 жыл бұрын
Is it possible that multiple planets crossed the field of vision at that particular time?
@cccmmm1234
@cccmmm1234 2 жыл бұрын
Multiple planets could cause the asymmetric dip. That's more likely than aliens.
@revan3841
@revan3841 2 жыл бұрын
Way too big and way too irregular.
@DexterHaven
@DexterHaven 2 жыл бұрын
@Umanfly Yeah, or space dust, an asteroid field, a part of a comet, Joy Behar, anything could obstruct the view.
@daymongray3516
@daymongray3516 2 жыл бұрын
If multiple planets were involved to don’t think it would be repeatable.
@davidpapitto6446
@davidpapitto6446 Жыл бұрын
@@revan3841 Like brown dwarfs in a highly elliptical orbit? Like the one that has been hypothesized to orbit outside of our heliosphere?
@gabrielfortuna9209
@gabrielfortuna9209 5 жыл бұрын
Why is it always computer images? Why can't they show the thing they saw...?
@imzavi-
@imzavi- 5 жыл бұрын
gabriel fortuna because the actual thing they saw was a bunch of numbers
@bruzote
@bruzote 5 жыл бұрын
You might as well ask the weather service to show you what they "see" with radar images! Why don't you go outside and look at this star? What you see is what the researchers will see. Nothing. Something too faint to see (and too small if seen from space with perfect optics). So, they use an "instrument" or "device" to look at the star and measure light. It does not see with a human eye, but instead measures light and numbers are the output. Then people use the numbers to create an image of their choice, one that highlights certain ranges over others or whatever algorithm is useful.
@sculpter4169
@sculpter4169 8 жыл бұрын
please please let it be alien civilization.
@briancurrysd
@briancurrysd 8 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@rock3tcatU233
@rock3tcatU233 8 жыл бұрын
Mexicans?
@Talleyhoooo
@Talleyhoooo 8 жыл бұрын
Oh look guys, we have a comedian on our hands.
@Talleyhoooo
@Talleyhoooo 8 жыл бұрын
Somehow, you dumbasses devolved the conversation into something about race..
@xxMrBaldyxx
@xxMrBaldyxx 7 жыл бұрын
yea there are retards galore here in the comments
@NeonShadowsx
@NeonShadowsx 5 жыл бұрын
"The data were good" very satisfying to hear this conjugation
@thedocnak
@thedocnak 5 жыл бұрын
lol i agree man
@servantofyah1377
@servantofyah1377 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sitting here like..please correct that sentence.
@c5quared626
@c5quared626 5 жыл бұрын
i was expecting 'is', but yea data pluralizes as such i suppose. the data are great
@anonymoustorchbearer5866
@anonymoustorchbearer5866 5 жыл бұрын
Proper grammar = “The data points were accurate.”
@Afficionadoh
@Afficionadoh 5 жыл бұрын
data is plural
@Ciscodays
@Ciscodays 5 жыл бұрын
"Imagine a civilization that's much more advanced than our own." What's to imagine? Ant colonies are more advanced...and more civilized.
@philipn83
@philipn83 8 жыл бұрын
Why did KIC 8462852 go to school? To get brighter of course.
@TheMrBigJeff
@TheMrBigJeff 8 жыл бұрын
+Philip Nunez I don't know, why did KIC 8462852 go to school?
@philipn83
@philipn83 8 жыл бұрын
To get brighter! (it's up there if you click read more)
@shikhanshu
@shikhanshu 8 жыл бұрын
+J S Ellery You are not very bright are you?
@TheMrBigJeff
@TheMrBigJeff 8 жыл бұрын
+Shikhanshu Agarwal I'm not well known, so I'm not a star. But to my father, I am a son... And to the rest of the world, I'm just dumb.
@alucardthealchemist
@alucardthealchemist 8 жыл бұрын
+Philip Nunez It's actually getting dimmer
@SoundSpirals
@SoundSpirals 7 ай бұрын
I don’t understand why James Web hasn’t been pointed at it. You’d think it would be high on the list.
@209euro2
@209euro2 5 ай бұрын
They know why....
@Jere616
@Jere616 8 жыл бұрын
Don't remember where I heard this, but what if there is a civilization out there more advanced than us, by 20 minutes? -g-
@jotoenatehaaen
@jotoenatehaaen 8 жыл бұрын
+Jere616 whatever we think of, they would have thought of it 20 minutes earlier? that's scary...
@nicegoing1535
@nicegoing1535 8 жыл бұрын
Then they probably have the next iPhone
@theholyherb420
@theholyherb420 8 жыл бұрын
+jotoenatehaaen it sure is scary they even know what I did last summer
@Jere616
@Jere616 8 жыл бұрын
+kicsimoe Yes, but it was just a joke.
@CyberMew
@CyberMew 6 жыл бұрын
It’s hard to say. It could be multiple planets of elliptical orbits. And just nice the dip is caused by these planets that happens to line up in front of their sun once every 1000 years. If we keep observing it for the next million years and it doesn’t happen again then maybe it could be a rouge planet passing by. Or who knows it could be multiple things passing by between the sun and us. And it doesn’t have to be close to the sun. It can even be near us. No one knows. Unless the signal is repeatable.
@luminositymusic3810
@luminositymusic3810 6 жыл бұрын
CyberMew that’s my thought.
@livelyarts49
@livelyarts49 6 жыл бұрын
good points...
@csgstormer
@csgstormer 6 жыл бұрын
I like the "planets lining up" theory. That would actually be useful for us to know more about how large the system is too. We just need more data point to really make any hard claims either way. It's fun to speculate and that's about it.
@autohmae
@autohmae 6 жыл бұрын
+CyberMew 'Luckily' our most advanced system for detecting this is looking the other way, so we probably have no idea and there is a big chance we'll never know.
@jerkchickenblog
@jerkchickenblog 6 жыл бұрын
this is what i was going to post. the further the star is the more likely other bodies as a problem are... the syncing might imply a very large system around a very large star, with multiple small bodies on similar orbits
@naui_diver9290
@naui_diver9290 5 жыл бұрын
Lightning bugs emit almost 100% of the energy they produce as light and not heat..if they can do it it can be duplicated.
@Callmepapimami
@Callmepapimami 5 жыл бұрын
What makes you so sure you can duplicate gods creation? He created humans can you duplicate that also?
@thewatcheronthewall85
@thewatcheronthewall85 5 жыл бұрын
@@Callmepapimami well look how far technology has come, this gods creation crap doesn't work anymore, and yes robotics is getting stronger each year duplicating aspects from the natural world, yes at the moment very basic but look how fast phones have leapt in 20 years with funding. Your bible is wrong on most things science related if written by a superior being it would not have wrong Information. Stop fearing death and think for yourself.
@Callmepapimami
@Callmepapimami 5 жыл бұрын
Thewatcheronthewall Thewatcheronthewall the bible had many “scientific” facts wayyy before your little scientists discovered them! Look at how many inventions we use today are inspired by gods creation. Many intellectuals (smart people, opposite of you) admit that the more they look into the world and learn about it they see that there mustve been a creator.. hope you look into for yourself and stop acting like a hurt little immature child
@thewatcheronthewall85
@thewatcheronthewall85 5 жыл бұрын
@@Callmepapimami stop fearing death.
@naui_diver9290
@naui_diver9290 5 жыл бұрын
@@Callmepapimami pay close attention okay? We're not talking about me duplicating anything,are we? Nooooo. Read slower and comment less.
@bigal3955
@bigal3955 6 ай бұрын
Using ginormous kinda makes it sound like a presentation by a sixth grader but other than that, really great and interesting info.
@ANIME2020X
@ANIME2020X 8 жыл бұрын
Morty is messing around that star.
@DaLoopDiggerz
@DaLoopDiggerz 8 жыл бұрын
+moniker127 Nobody exist on purpose, nobody belongs anywhere. Everybody's gonna die.
@Dra741
@Dra741 2 жыл бұрын
I never thought the photometer would be able to detect this so accurately, I thought that it would be interfered with with all types of stray space signals and everything but it works perfectly
@TheScienceBiome
@TheScienceBiome 6 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I’m wrong, but could the anomalies in the observations occur due to a large heavenly body orbiting the star at a huge distance. (relative to normal orbital distances) This would imply that the planet would “appear” to be large, and “appear” to block a lot of light. Plus, it would be far away and thus orbit slowly, resulting in the observed prolonged periods of dimness.
@eliassosa9530
@eliassosa9530 6 жыл бұрын
If something is large enough to block that amount of light, at a distance extreme enough to account for the time passage, the star would 'wobble'. For instance, Jupiter doesn't orbit our star, the Sun and Jupiter orbit a center-point between the two because of Jupiter's immense gravity. I don't believe the star in question has shown any wobble to indicate something extremely large is orbiting with it.
@RGJ1900
@RGJ1900 6 жыл бұрын
I'm with this guy, (or gal,). If a fly got in front of the of the lens here on earth, (for example), it would block out a significant amount of light and not induce "wobble" on that far away star. I think this is what "The Science Biome" is saying, but instead of a fly on the lens, it is some other celestial object maybe not even in that star's solar system.
@igt3928
@igt3928 6 жыл бұрын
Relative to the distance to the star from Earth, any orbiting obtect would be pretty much at the same distance that the star itself. That star is about 1500 light years away, a few light-hours wouldn't make it closer to the lens in any meaningful sense.
@RGJ1900
@RGJ1900 6 жыл бұрын
Why are we assuming the object(s) blocking the light have to be orbiting the star? Again, could not a fly on the lens of a telescope here on earth be blocking some light from a far-away star? I know it is not a fly causing this, I am just illustrating the point.
@StellarPhotography
@StellarPhotography 2 жыл бұрын
Per Wikipedia, in January 2021, a distant stellar-mass companion was reported, making Tabby's Star a binary stellar system.
@chrisromoser4341
@chrisromoser4341 3 жыл бұрын
thank you Tabetha, so interesting to hear of this
@managerialelitetoaster3456
@managerialelitetoaster3456 8 жыл бұрын
Could it be some hardware on the Kepler craft degrading or breaking?
@milky_wayan
@milky_wayan 7 жыл бұрын
kepler observes multiple stars at once, so no.
@eevd350z
@eevd350z 7 жыл бұрын
More like the hardware controller failing lol
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