The Most OVERRATED Player In Baseball

[@juuuuu254]

idk… 30/30 with 100 rbis and gold glove defense sounds pretty good to me

[@owengawlik5392]

This video aged like warm milk. I love how Mets players like Lindor always get unnecessary hate while someone like Xander Bogaerts who actually has a disastrous contract for the Padres doesn’t even get talked about. Lindor is a 5-6 fWAR player every year and worth every penny he’s made as a Met.

[@priestsonaplane2236]

@@owengawlik5392 stfu imagine where the Mets would be if this guy didn’t SUCK for two months to start the year it killed our season

[@TrulyTrue_]

Facts bro this guy is robbing San Diego

[@yeetthefeetpls5850]

It just gets better and better for the Mets fans. All he needs to do now is actually win the MVP

[@TiagoGomez-hb9te]

​@@TrulyTrue_ LOL! True

[@evrbody]

"Underrated" is the most overrated word in existence.

[@RicoCosta317]

That's an underrated sentiment.

[@HipHopYorozuya]

Nah its deadass tied WITH overrated

[@Chris.Minarich.LongIsland]

Why? Besides is sounding cool?

[@aidansmith2779]

watch lindor turn his season around and hit 40 homers while batting like .290 or something, after you called him out, man baseball is weird

[@priestsonaplane2236]

Lmaooo he hasn’t hit the ball in 5 days this dude is washed

[@rafajf]

that would be nice for my fantasy team

[@brennencseh3744]

@@rafajf should have drafted Bobby Whitt that’s who I got

[@rafajf]

@@brennencseh3744 didnt make it to my turn

[@blink182fan1130]

lol. Tell me you’re a Mets fan without telling me you’re a Mets fan.

[@dorfmanjones]

Boy, has this post dated poorly. Lindor is hitting a ton and fielding like a dream.

[@adamc3636]

Lindor is a legitimate MVP candidate. This video has aged horribly and I love it! LFGM

[@carlosrivera788]

This video is not aging well…

[@jameskm03]

If he can put up 4+ more seasons at his rates he's probably a HOFer... and that's coming from a Braves fan. He's 30yr old and already has 40+WAR...

[@chris42069]

NY fans are THE WORST, no appreciation for their own players. Disgrace

[@mohegansun2439]

Except he doesn't win

[@ConnorBrew19]

WAR doesn’t paint the whole picture.

[@mohegansun2439]

@@ConnorBrew19 no shit

[@luke9747]

HOF trajectory, plays the hardest position.. idk what he expects out of him. Above average hitter, above average defense, puts up war, steals bases. Dude is consistent and good, the Mets are getting what they paid for I think

[@AR0dful]

I think it’s pretty hard to say Lindor is underperforming to his contract, since (while massive) it is inflated by his position. When comparing Lindor to the other players in his 300m pay range that you listed (Judge, Harper, Betts, Machado), he does get dwarfed by most of them purely offensively, but he also provides the most value at the toughest defensive position in baseball. There’s no other SS on that list, and the other SS’s who got paid somewhat recently (Bogaerts, Correa, Seager) get paid in the same range. Personally, if I had to choose from those 4 SS’s to get my every day guy, I’m probably taking Lindor as he’s the most reliable health-wise and gives you elite defense with 30-30 potential every year. SS is a tough market and the price tag will always be steep. Lindor will be a HOF player with 5 more good seasons, and I think that warrants him being paid with the elite SS in the game.

[@JayFamo718]

This video aged terribly button

[@Richardtherat-t2d]

He’s not overrated lindor has had a slow start but dude finished top ten in mvp voting last two years if that’s overrated than every player in baseball is to

[@fr2ncm9]

It is when you consider the fact that he will be making 34 million a year for the next decade. If you compare his numbers to Bryce Harper or Aaron Judge. They are not comparable. He is 30 now so they will be paying him 30 million per year up to the age of 40.

[@gDiniM]

@fr2ncm9 welcome to baseball contracts in todays day and age. A top shelf SS is not a cheap position. Correa is getting 33 a year before incentives, and that includes his injury history, cheating scandal involvement, and two teams backing out of a deal with him. Lindor isn't underrated. it's using the wrong term. I do, however, believe he is underappreciated. Guy is in my opinion hands down top 3 in baseball and I think hes 1, but hes constantly being shot down. Arcia made the ASG over him last year, if that doesnt show the disrespect lmao i dont know what does. Then again, its a dumb fan vote and Lindor usually starts off slow so hes just not a good candidate for the arbitrary ASG requirements lmao

[@chris42069]

​@fr2ncm9 what are you even talking about? Hes widely agreed to be one of the best SS in baseball, so let's compare him to a corner OF? Clown comment bro, go back to the circus 🎪

[@kingDrAgOnZoRdS]

What about the stats 😂

[@smoceany9478]

why would you use mvp votes to say someones not overrated, hes top 10 in mvp BECAUSE hes overrated

[@BrianGarcia711NY]

Thank God someone finally said it. “Francisco Lindor is the most underrated player in baseball” has been one of the most annoying narratives the last few years. Right up there with “Tim Anderson is actually an amazing person and an amazing teammate who’s just misunderstood because he flips his bat and calls himself Jackie Robinson”. Right up to the point where J-Ram KO-d him and all of a sudden we could all agree that TA is a douchebag diva and “Down goes Anderson!” was therapeutic for all of us.

[@elisalsa24]

dude averages 4.7 bWAR 5.17 fWAR per year and if plays the same exact way for the remainder of his contract he'll be top 4 in all shortstops in history is 80+ fWAR and he'll be near 3000 hits with multiple GG's lets be fucking honest here dog

[@BrianGarcia711NY]

@@elisalsa24 Not denying he’s a great shortstop. I’m specifically stating he’s not actually underrated. Reading comprehension is your friend, dog.

[@clickbait3753]

As a mets fan I agree, people talk about his advances stats a lot but the reality is recently he pads them up near the end of the season against teams like the marlins and nats

[@gDiniM]

I think underrated is a massive stretch, but under appreciated is a fair term. People dont act like hes a top SS anymore meanwhile id struggle to think of more than Seager or Turner over him. And personally in that case, im taking between Turner and Lindor, seager can sit in the IL corner lmao SS is a premium position and a guy who plays nearly 160 every year, can go 30-30 with GG defense, it shouldn't take a rocket surgeon to see the value of Lindor.

[@douggoldwater1734]

@@elisalsa24 Lindor is a good shortstop, no one is debating that. But WAR can be misleading - anyone who watches the Mets knows that Pete Alonso, for example, is more valuable to the Mets lineup - when he's on, the Mets are winning. Yet because of positional adjustment he will never have more than 4 or 5 WAR, and Lindor can be an average hitter and end up with the same amount.

[@Ny1252bird]

270./28/80 Gold glove defense. Most homers by shortstop in national league. Leadership in Mets clubhouse.

[@AceCameron10]

Ikr

[@TrashKuurn]

It's a Mets problem, not a Lindor problem. Look at Alonso and McNeil this season.. I'm a lifetime Mets fan, the whole team is suffering thus far this season...

[@dontgiveinfo]

The Cubs blew up their core that won the world series. They knew what happened to the Mets would happen to them

[@TheAnimalWolverine]

Lindor hasn’t even played good ever since he left the Guardians

[@greatloverofmusic1]

@@TheAnimalWolverine That's completely wrong. He has the 2nd highest fWAR among SS since joining the Mets.

[@mohegansun2439]

You are one of the bad Mets fans

[@TrashKuurn]

@@mohegansun2439 me? LOL

[@Maxks4]

Lindors Grand - slam against the Phillies in the playoffs told us all.

[@grithog5399]

Cohen spent crazy money on him. That’s all. That’s your entire argument. We’re talking about Cohen. That’s it. “Overrated” is about people’s current impression of someone’s abilities in comparison to others. It has NOTHING to do with past expectations. Maybe some people thought he would be a future Hall of Famer, but that has no bearing on whether he’s overrated now. You referred to people’s current opinion of him only ONCE, at the end, with nothing to support it: “He seems to be hyped up by a lot of people.” So, to sum up, a lot of people had super high expectations for him, Cohen gave him crazy money, at times he was one of the best shortstops in the game, he’s had a consistently excellent career for several years, and, without any evidence, you feel like he’s hyped up by a lot of people, so he’s the most OVERRATED player in baseball. I don’t believe you.

[@dashx1103]

Lindor will be a first-ballot Hall of Famer. Unless he gets injured, he will retire with the most HRs hit in MLB history by a SS (if he hits zero for the rest of the season, he'll need to hit fewer than 18/year for the remainder of his contract). He is amazing, and is most certainly "underrated."

[@Hollywud527]

hitting 30/30 and playing great defense every day is worth 30 million bro

[@lukeweldon2975]

Actually aged like spoiled milk... as a Mets fan, thank you

[@tylerbarragan9730]

“Good defender” - bro is a gold glove defender who is a above average hitter

[@DCampusano1]

Great defender, yes.. but definitely NOT an above average hitter. He’s never had a 40 homerun season and he’s never really batted above .300 or posted an OPS above .900.

[@priestsonaplane2236]

Lol is that average .200 because he’s below it

[@MaddMan621]

@@DCampusano1 first of all, batting average is no argument. Secondly 40 HRs and .900 OPS isnt the mark of "above average", those are elite numbers. There are plenty of "good" hitters that don't have that kind of slugging. Use a player's OPS+. If it's over 100, then statistically, yes, he is "above average". Not even trying to argue for Lindor here, just talking in general.

[@itsRecreational]

Bro is praying everyday Lindors season takes a downturn. Fast forward to him being the best overall NL player with a week left in August. Yeah Ohtani probably has an unprecedented 50/50 season and takes the MVP, but Lindor has done everything in his power to keep his team competitive. Seems to be worth the money. As many others have said, this aged poorly.

[@tomfalco4248]

As a die hard Mets fan, I love Lindor but he doesn’t hit like someone who’s making $300+ mil. Been saying that even in his great 2022-23 seasons. One of the best defenders in the sport and a good baserunner, but you gotta do more than a barely .800 OPS when you’re getting paid like he is. Really hoping he turns it around this year

[@danieldanielson2324]

If anything, he’s just flat out overpaid for his production but that’s fine. Cohen shelled that money over and knew what he’d be getting and it hasn’t reached the point where we are getting zero value out of Lindor. Till I hear a report that Cohen is strapped for cash and the Mets can’t make moves because of him, then it’s not the end of the world. I still believe in Franky.

[@mattbierly914]

Nah the juiced ball era just killed everyone’s perspective on what good hitting numbers are. In terms of ops+, 2022 and 2023 were lindors best hitting seasons despite having an actual ops way below his numbers from 2016-19. People just gotta understand that a .750+ ops is pretty good and that what we saw in the back half of the 2010s was not realistic at all

[@gedalyahreback2133]

Secret to let everyone in on: No single MLB player is worth a $300 million contract.

[@wyssmaster]

Depends on how you define worth. Is it just and fair that guys who hit a ball make tens of millions of dollars? Eh. Do they deserve the going market rate based on league revenue? Probably, yes. A guy like Mike Trout was worth upwards of $60 million a year about twelve years ago. It's incredibly rare for players to have seasons that amazing, but with current market rates guys like Lindor are actually underpaid while make obscene amounts of money.

[@jackbuckley5453]

Harper has been worth every penny

[@matthewl3002]

@iamjuliocesarjran MVP Award, a World Series appearance and another NLCS appearance on top of that are 100% worth that kind of money. He also enters demon time in the playoffs, which is where good players show how good they actually are. Harper passes the eyeball test: he hits well, walks a ton and is a solid fielder.

[@johnmcnamara8741]

He’s always been a good player. He’s a typical .270-.280 30+ 90-100 RBI player. He’s been consistent with that minus one year.

[@TheStevieb1983]

This take is not aging well. Please leave Lindor alone. He is an elite glove, and is raking at the plate

[@barrettbrandon-ngbaseballr3822]

Jazz Chisholm is the most overrated player in baseball

[@Ihateiratehipsters]

Couldn’t agree more.

[@matthewl3002]

Nobody would give 2 shits about him if he wasn’t on a cover of MLB: The Show

[@barrettbrandon-ngbaseballr3822]

@@matthewl3002 mlb the show cover choices in general suck

[@bassbaine]

Just came in to let people know that Lindor hit a grand slam to send The Mets to the NLCS

[@LaMostraVia]

Yesssssss!!!!!

[@Spliffkage]

I love when ppl make videos like this only to end up looking like absolute 🤡

[@JosephVanHouten]

Lindor has a .303 batting average with 115 hits, 21 homers, 58 RBIs and 66 runs scored in 91 games since this video was posted 😂😂

[@teamx-bladz]

he's a fantastic player. in fact he is on track for a HOF career. the disappointment comes from his juiced ball seasons and the expectation that he was going to be a 40+ HR hitter when he entered his prime.

[@dashx1103]

This^

[@JulianWyllie]

As a Mets fan I can admit that sometimes I'm disappointed by some of his numbers, particularly his batting average and OPS. I love that he plays every day for sure, but I'm just not sure what to think of him anymore.

[@BKHockeyTalk]

Hahahaha golly did this age terribly, and I’m a Yankees fan.

[@gwell66v2AnimeReviews]

tbf 0:07 that's Sal licata, one of the more...frustrating listens on WFAN spots radio in NY. Idk if he was wrong on this particular topic, though. It's more Lindor had to prove he could get it done when the Mets season is still on the line.

[@JaredHettler]

Bro FINALLY people are coming around to this. I have been saying this for literally like 5 years.

[@pbu7235]

Update this video you’re an actual clown for judging players off a small sample size over 162 games

[@BBKing0824]

This guy don’t know shit about baseball

[@dieguitooo__24]

wheres the apology video big dawg 😂

[@iTalkStudios]

Already been made lil bro🤣

[@romanc.5074]

Fransisco Lindor is; a nice guy and a good player with an excellent glove but inconsistent with the bat. Overrated? no but overpaid for sure. A Mets fan here.

[@chris42069]

So inconsistent he put up 43 bWAR by the age of 30...

[@iTalkStudios]

So much of that is because of his defense

[@1980sActionCopKaPowChopOfSteel]

@@iTalkStudios That's not true. Lindor has 38 offensive war, his defense doesn't add that much. Lindor's total war should probably be higher anyway but DRS doesn't like him which lowers his war. This year he has 4OAA which is tied for 15th in all of baseball yet has -0.1 Dwar.

[@romanc.5074]

@@chris42069 What do I mean by inconsistent? simple: He is cold as ice for six or 8 weeks then he turns on fire like a roman candle on July 4th.

[@mohegansun2439]

Yet he's been on losing teams​@@chris42069

[@Cindoreye]

He's overpaid, and that's what makes him look overrated. Most teams would love to have him on their team for a more reasonable price.

[@BBKing0824]

Lindor shitted on this video

[@derekconstantino7759]

Ive been saying overrated for years. Him and vladdy are 1 & 2 for most overrated players

[@jasongiannaros4091]

I would put Vladdy at #1 because he's way more inconsistent, but yeah, agreed

[@elasmojones]

Can't argue with that....unless someone rated Baez high somehow.

[@TheChosennn]

Jazz Chisholm

[@BoswachtBlog]

Don't forget Machado and Bogaerts (and I say that as a Dutchman).

[@Boonil22]

Nobody rates vlad

[@woomydayz]

This did NOT age well

[@Jose_Hunters_EWF_Remixes]

No point in dog-piling on you, since your viewers have vented their spleens in the below comment section I'll give you credit for your past work. I don't have any measurable complaints about your previous work, and I assess it as fairly good for a young man Thence, I'll limit my commentary to a subject in which my expertise almost certainly exceeds 100.000% of all those who have seen this video One area of my expertise is formal logic, as my profession is mathematics The statement that you made, approximately, that "Either Lindor is a top-two shortstop or is underrated, he can't be both" is absolutely incorrect First of all, I'll assert that he's arguably the top current SS, based on the whole picture - power, defense, baserunning, speed, durability, and so forth Next, "being underrated" is inferred to mean "underrated in general" If I am certain he is great, that doesn't mean that, in general, he's not underrated because *_I_* don't underrate him Anyway, you should follow up this video with one where you admit that you made something that sucked because you were under pressure, etc. Otherwise, keep up the good work. But do yourself a favor and stay away from if-then type statements which you state as absolutes

[@felixmartinez5934]

This video needs an update lol

[@Alex-y2w5y]

It's crazy you have this channel and I thought you knew baseball 😂

[@Lillbimbo]

Manny Machado (50 WAR) 31 years Nolan Arenado (49 WAR) 33y Francisco Lindor (48 WAR) 30y Bryce Harper (47 WAR) 31y Aaron Judge (42 WAR) 32y not saying Lindor is worth his contract but if the other guys are future hall of famers... The extremly overated one on the mets is Pete Alonso. Wanting a contract close to Freeman or Harper.

[@peachdevils3893]

Well this aged pretty bad

[@whoishec7615]

Lindor far from overrated

[@priestsonaplane2236]

You’re right he just sucks

[@gnielsen07]

@@priestsonaplane2236lindor was a top 5 shortstop the last 3 seasons. He just sucks this year

[@greatloverofmusic1]

@@priestsonaplane2236 You do know that SS defense is important right?

[@priestsonaplane2236]

@@greatloverofmusic1 not important enough for .190 hitter to hit 3rd in the lineup a

[@priestsonaplane2236]

@@gnielsen07 he’s only getting worse and worse. On a steady decline for the 4th year in a row. Dudes washed and there’s no reason he needs to hit at the most valuable spot in the lineup. The Mets are doing him no favors having him in the 3 hole. He’d be viable in the MLB as a 6 or 7 hitter. His contract says he should hit third given the money, but his numbers say otherwise and when will we wake up. Thankfully some people are. He’s costing the Mets games

[@MLB_BI25]

This aged well 😅

[@edrueter9]

Lindor's problem is that he cant play in the cold. His April and May numbers are always atrocious. That is why the last two years he was NOT an allstar (voting is at midseason) despite being top 10 in MVP voting. His slow starts kill his HoF chances because voters look at shit like all star appearances. Imagine a 30/30 guy playing gold glove defense that is NOT an all star.

[@sweatypnuts]

You can't say that because he signed a big contract he should get better. You are paying for what a player is, not for what you want a player to be. And if you are talking comps like Trout and Ohtani then you aren't correct either. Trout since signing has been constantly injured and isn't performing better then his earlier years. Ohtani's contract is monster and still isn't pitching. I think what it's come down to is that he's overpaid. Not overrated.

[@BetzalelNahmod]

Hi, ItalkStudios I’m a big fan and I love your videos. I was wondering if your next video could be on how umpires have been sensitive and more thin skinned when it comes to players and coaches complaining about calls and just the umpires looking to eject coaches and players

[@nickr3441]

Lol blow harder

[@Metsfan2011]

This aged like milk

[@Aneudis172012]

Mets fan and i like Lindor much, but we are paying him just for gold defense and daily playing. He's not hitting and def. has NOT hit nearly worth the 34 mil

[@Metsfan59]

He just hit 2 homer and is gonna win MVP lol

[@CapsBrotha]

Bro I get saying he was overrated during the first 3 weeks of the season when he was batting like .079 but he’s turned it around and is completely solid.

[@Eazydoesit702]

He’s batting below .200

[@CapsBrotha]

@@Eazydoesit702 He’s batting .203, 28 R, 7 HR, 23 RBIs, & 6 SBs. He’s really not that bad at all, look at Alex Bregman’s #’s if you really are trying to find a player that’s looking like a potential bust for the season

[@MaddMan621]

All the clips you used at the beginning were either from SNY (the Mets local broadcast channel) and then one from Marc Luino (well known to be the biggest Mets homer on KZbin), doesn't really do a good job of showing that the narrative is being shoved down peoples throats when it's from segments only shown to people in the tri-state area, or a top 10 list from a KZbinr trying to rage-bait people with Mets fandom

[@POVGamer-ov6mu]

It's about time I see something about this. Seeing all of these posts saying that he's better than Trea Turner were driving me insane.

[@gDiniM]

I think Turner is the only guy who has an argument of being more valuable than Lindor at SS. They are close enough that quite frabkly I dont care who you think is better, any team would be lucky to have either.

[@matthewl3002]

@@gDiniMMookie plays short too now, he’s a top 5 player in the league and easily the #1 shortstop

[@gDiniM]

@matthewl3002 hes brand new to SS this season. Until hes yhere a bit longer im not considering him a SS. Awesome utility regardless and if he stays there, I agree.

[@jaibrown7265]

There’s a ton of players more overrated than Lindor…. 30/30 with 100 rbis AND gold glove level defense 😂😂😂😂

[@philipmoreno358]

so Lindor is not a great player ? hard disagree

[@kevincanning3051]

But is he worth 34 million a year? Hell no.

[@sw120]

@@kevincanning3051 a player's contract does not matter when it comes to talking about how good they are. If Lindor got paid 2 bucks for the whole season and is the exact same type of player he is now, sure you'd take him over guys like Mookie, Judge, and Seager cause he is dirt cheap for the production he brings, but it doesn't make him any better. Talking about if a player is overrated or underrated or how good they actually are shouldn't start with their contract cause it has no effect on how good they actually are, it's the opposite, how good they actually are usually leads to what kind of contract they get

[@dashx1103]

@@kevincanning3051 Yes. Yes he is. 100%.

[@briansimmons473]

Here after the NLDS clinching grand slam

[@RichardLopez-ij5px]

This aged nicely

[@douggoldwater1734]

Thank you - a lot of people insist on saying Lindor is "one of the best shortstops" and point to whichever advanced statistic suits their argument, but as a Mets fan, we all see him go through some pretty bad slumps when the team needs him the most. Even last year, he finished strong but was hitting around .220 through June when they called it a season and started to rebuild. His Cleveland numbers were better than as a Met, but his power was inflated by the juiced ball, and the AL Central in the late 2010s was weak as hell. I still remember him not running out a ground ball during the first month of his new contract and getting booed, thinking "We should have made him prove he's worth the money for a year instead of just handing it out before he's shown anything as a Met." I wish the best for Lindor but he's inconsistent as hell and hasn't proved he's worth the money, or being seen as the "face of the franchise." He reminds me of Carlos Beltran in a lot of ways, although Beltran missed more time and was a bit better when he played.

[@TiagoGomez-hb9te]

Yeah. Mets were really expecting 2004 Playoffs Carlos Beltran when they signed him back in 2005?

[@aaronchapman3]

This one aged horribly 😅😅😅

[@felixnunez1]

Diggin the new content format bro. Great essay

[@TheStevieb1983]

he plays every day. as a mets fan i love that. he will not miss a game. even the birth of his child last season, and this season when he was sick. the guy still came and played before the game was over. he just wont ever take a break. he loves baseball.

[@socalastarte6727]

May 5th 2024 and Francisco Lindor is hitting .193 with an OPS of .616. He's a well below average offensive player at this point.

[@sw120]

Welp, what do you gotta say now? I hate being the guy that says "this aged like milk" but the video to start with was a terrible take to begin with 😂

[@grantolson2903]

Thank god, he is overpaid and has been since he’s gotten to the Mets, he hasn’t been this crazy top 3 in shortstops other than his defense, great tools, solid bat. But not deserving of a 34 mil dollar contract

[@sir.muffiniii7011]

122 OPS+ with 30 homers and elite defence and baserunning isn’t worth 34 mil?

[@ToonTwist]

What shortstop has been better than Lindor besides Seager? Seager is also only considered the best because of last year.

[@grantolson2903]

@@sir.muffiniii7011it isn’t

[@FeiLi-i9z]

@@sir.muffiniii7011 not when he never gets a big hit

[@sir.muffiniii7011]

@@FeiLi-i9z tf r u talking about

[@Vincentovich89]

Look at his contract. Dude isnt producing on that level.

[@horsemeattball]

With Lindor's contract, as with others who signed long term contracts. it's not the money, it's the length of term. The 35 or 40 million dollars a year is not obscene, but when you look at the total sum, it is absolutely disgusting.

[@RandomGuy42016]

The man is in a early season slump and now he’s washed? Dude plays gold glove defense and is on the field damn near everyday. Guess you gotta start reaching to get those views up.

[@africalovesbait]

Good take

[@RobertAponte-o6f]

Ayo buddy you think he’s underrated still

[@JazzyJeff910]

As a big time Lindor fan and him being my favorite player, and as of rn I don’t think he’s overrrated. But he’s been on a huge slump this season.

[@thethrill2877]

As a Mets fan I think he’s overrated he should be hitting 6th not 3 . He makes a lot of week contact doesn’t strike out a lot but pulls to much . Great Glove .

[@dsavage6618]

Well well well…..

[@2strokeFORever]

Love coming back to watch this

[@cursedreality8615]

It’s a reason why I don’t like war as a stat values defense far too much Kyle Sharber and Javy Baez had the same war last year

[@mgasolprodz33]

A run saved is a run earned

[@chris42069]

It's almost like Kyle Shwarber is the one who is vastly overrated and is basically a 1 tool power hitter who can only hit middle-middle mistake pitches?

[@gnielsen07]

War also factors in baserunning. Certainly Báez was a more efficient base runner than schwarber was

[@baits8420]

@@chris42069i’m sure all 41 homers were mistake pitches right down the middle, u cracked the code😮😮

[@metsmikey]

Great content right here 😂😂😂😂

[@Gabe_Lopez]

He's not overrated at all. Yes, his contract is a bit much for his caliber, but there's way worse than him

[@TiagoGomez-hb9te]

Such as?

[@ryantouhey1997]

Lindor has never stood out to me. I always thought he was a good player, but never thought he was great. Sure he’s won a pair of Gold Gloves, some Silver Sluggers and was a 30-30 member last year. But you put that stuff to the side and look more closely at his numbers, they just don’t jump off the page enough.

[@goattygoat9489]

This aged poorly

[@KidFromDaBronx]

Very poorly

[@Mr.Whitenton]

Worst thing that happened to Lindor is playing for the Mets

[@philly_sports1558]

Remember when everyone said Bryce Harper was the most overrated player in baseball for like 3 years? Lol

[@iTalkStudios]

That was always such a dumb thing to say haha. He's lived up to the unfair hype brought on him when he was 16 and more. He's that good.

[@philly_sports1558]

⁠@@iTalkStudiosYeah in hindsight, the “Harper is the most overrated player in baseball” discourse from around 2018-2020 is insane and hilarious. You could argue that he maybe was overrated a tiny bit in his final few years as a Nat, but as a Phillie? Absolutely not. He’s been consistently better in Philly than he was in DC. Since 2019, his OPS is .929 (7th in the league in that time period and ahead of guys like Betts, Acuna, and Tatis), he won an MVP, nearly single-handedly dragged the Phillies to a World Series appearance, and has had a playoff OPS over 1.100 the last 2 years. If anything, he’s massively underpaid for the value he provides on the field and off the field.

[@sw120]

Always hated that discussion. As a Mets fan who has no reason to root for him, I got around early and realized how good he actually is. His contract isn't even bad in terms of AAV, it just happens to be over the magic number of 300M cause it's a super long deal. If he wasn't hyped up as baseball's version of Lebron then he wouldn't have been called overrated, and doesn't help that his rookie year was the same as Mike Trout's, whose career trajectory actually did mirror Lebron's (and kinda still does, his numbers now are still awesome even if he's gotten hurt a ton) I will say I can't really stand the glazing he gets now, cause it's from that 2022 postseason he had (which was amazing) that got him the respect he deserves when he should've had it a long time ago. And cause I kinda think postseason stats are wildly overrated since it's a super small sample when every baseball fan is watching instead of just their own teams' games But in conclusion Bryce has always been awesome, shame he went a decade without getting his respect

[@TheJackyl1313]

Frankie was the best shortstop in Cleveland but he has been overrated in New York

[@sadmarinersfan8935]

Not overrated or underrated but overpaid 100%

[@petergrande322]

Aged like warm milk buddy

[@thrillhouse4784]

As a mariner fan I feel the same way about j-rod. I'd trade him any day of the week for Bobby Witt or elly

[@MaddMan621]

You would be nuts to swap JRod with Elly De La Strikeout

[@thrillhouse4784]

@@MaddMan621 elly has twice the home runs, stolen bases, and WAR and he's 2 years younger. Both are great

[@dbekoscke]

I'm a die hard Indians/Guardians fan... Back when the rumors of trading Lindor were swirling I was totally okay with sending him out of town knowing the big contract he'd be demanding (and as long as we got some controllable players in return). I knew he wouldn't blossom into a player he'd never been up until that point and any big contract would doom making any other signings/extensions.

[@youngfelipe9068]

Lindor’s seasons in Cleveland were never going to be his norm. That doesn’t make him overrated though, he’s probably putting together one of the better careers for a shortstop in the MLB right now.

[@flashbcat8491]

LOOK AT IT NOW

[@Cheneymlb]

That Girrafeneckmarc clip at the beggining

[@josephmolina03]

I agree. Mets fan here since birth and the Mets suckkkkk. No getting around it. Such a shame

[@lfgmtrain]

Great vid!

[@TheFruitney]

That's funny because as of 10/15/24: he finished the 2024 season with a 7 WAR, 33 HR, 107 Runs scored, .844 OPS, 29SB and 91 RBIs. His 10th season. He's on pace to probably surpass Barry Larkin and Ozzie Smith in WAR and possibly get to 3,000 hits. Barring injury, he's most likely a Hall of famer. These videos should be made at the end of each season not in the beginning or middle or during a players bad stretch.

[@metsfan5438]

I absolutely love how this video completely proved the point you were trying to refute

[@ziadhosain2552]

2 hrs one a grand slam against the padres today. Hmmmmmm

[@seen48]

AS a Mets fan I mostly agree with everything you said. It’s just hard to digest. I honestly think no player is worth over 30 million per year. Arguably the best hockey player on the planet, Connor McDavid doesn’t even make $15 million per year. NHL salary cap restrains over spending. Kind of sad when you see a player like Lindor, not the best player in the world making more than double.

[@karlapants]

He will be the hitter when the Mets are out of contention cuz he ain’t clutch!

[@CharlesMontgomery-gt9yz]

I feel you Lindy as an Indian wasn’t real clutch but better than with the mets

[@ishottheserf6715]

Aged like milk

[@eatapacks12_18]

Ya baseball fans really dnt know ball shit is sad

[@briansmith5513]

This dude doesn't know shit about baseball. He should be a video editor and that's it.

[@TiagoGomez-hb9te]

​@@briansmith5513 What do you mean he doesn't know anything about baseball?

[@wyssmaster]

The biggest problem is that everyone is acting like it's ~2010 and that the expected value per WAR is still around $6 million. Everyone saying that Lindor isn't playing like a guy worth $30 million a year is actually correct, in that his value has actually been closer to $45-50 million a year so far with the Mets. $30-35 million is no longer an insane amount of money for a baseball player; you don't need to be a generational talent on the level of Trout to make that kind of money (and to be fair to Lindor, he's put up nearly 50 WAR in his career, so realistically he's on track for a HoF career). If we're being totally fair to Lindor and comparing him to other $300+ million players, your list was: Otani: not really fair, but he hasn't had a season as a position player to match Lindor's best. Lindor has him beat in career WAR by over 20 wins, assuming you don't look at Otani's pitching