The MOST POWERFUL Surron/talaria BRAKES! // Lewis EP8

Thanks to Electro MX for sending me a set of his Lewis 8 pot brakes to test over the coming rides on the channel! For parts and spares in the UK find his store here - electro-mx.co.uk
These brakes have double the braking power of even the most high end brakes due to their enlarged lever fluid reservoir and 8 pistons, the pistons mean the brakes are on a larger contact patch meaning the same amount of pressure from your finger results in double the power from the brake needing only one finger to lock up the rear wheel at any speed or weight!
Made from high quality aluminium with bearings and inc machining these brakes are on par with my Hope TECH V4's in terms of build quality, they even use the same pads!
I am impressed with the brakes on the initial ride but will do a 100 mile review after a week of testing them on the trails so stay tuned!
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[@TresXTre]

That rear setup you have on the stink is PERFECTION

[@stingyrogerr]

Thanks man! Build and mod videos of it on the channel feel free to have a look! 💪🏼🫡

[@Flooftoys]

Just come across your channel and will be binging for rest of the night! Love it 👊🏼

[@stingyrogerr]

Haha enjoy man thanks for watching 💪🏼🫡

[@JustClapIt]

Another great video bro. Sick work

[@stingyrogerr]

Thanks man means a lot for sure 💪🏼👍🏻

[@Baeblade85]

Another brilliant video bud

[@stingyrogerr]

Thanks bro appreciate it! 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼

[@electromx]

Cracking video lads, ill get a 6 pot sent too you asap 👏

[@stingyrogerr]

Thanks brother! Appreciate the opportunity to test them out 💪🏼

[@RichKurdek]

Nice video! 100th like🎉 I contacted Lewis to purchase these brakes since everyone else seems to be sold out…I’m either going to use this or a custom brembo setup with my 96v setup🤞

[@user-pv5cr1bt8x]

Love the content! Keep it up 🔥🔥

[@stingyrogerr]

Appreciate the supportive words 🫡

[@bikerboybrent]

🔥

[@antssta]

Looks good, sick video. I wonder how those guys doing 20 minute wheelies will go with them

[@stingyrogerr]

I am interested too, I can do the wheelie stuff too but it gets a lot of hate on YT! These are better than my hope’s but I would like to test them against the Volar Sports!

[@jamalyez5694]

Great vid whens the next free ride coming

[@stingyrogerr]

Haha my buddies bikes are all stripped for powdercoat atm, maybe 1-2 weeks out man

[@SS-mt4sx]

Loving the content! Do you travel with the bike at all or have plans to go anywhere with your talaria?

[@stingyrogerr]

Im hoping to spend more time travelling, next week I am travelling a few hundred miles and potentially next year to europe! 💪🏼

[@IncredibleCisco]

damn, they have routet the brake hose INSIDE the Rim? jeeeez i cant count how many times i picked up branches with the rear wheel.

[@stingyrogerr]

Good spot! Inside/outside its both as vulnerable as one another. Outside snags twigs and branches and grass, inside can do same. Roulette i guess!

[@MASC440]

You're gonna need a seatbelt - or velcro your ass to the seat or OTT - but big KW means you need big brakes. I'm looking out for your full test with fronts fitted.

[@stingyrogerr]

Very true!! Thanks for watching, stay tuned for the fronts 👍🏻💪🏼

[@dseer7409]

Are these ebrakes as well? I mean do they have the brake cutoff sensor wire or are they compatible?

[@stingyrogerr]

Yes! They are compatible with brake sensor for light and safety features! The sensor is available for less than $20 on the website when you add these to checkout don’t forget to add the sensor :)

[@windowwasherfpv3485]

I recently switched to the DHR EVO and they’re ridiculous🔥 but a little expensive

[@mixmastamikal]

Definitely better than the Hope and Formula brake. Also will give a shout out to the Hayes dominions for being really good. I have a set of these Lewis on the way though and the new EP6 for the front. Can't wait to try them out.

[@twss1941]

they're website only has the 4 pot, when will these 8 pot be available?

[@stingyrogerr]

Its up to the dealers stocking them to get them listed on their website. This was a sample set! This week I am also receiving the volar sport big brake kit which is likely to be even more powerful!

[@Ron-don]

Yea buddy 🤌🏼

[@stingyrogerr]

Proper norty stuff 💪🏼👍🏻

[@signgod]

why didn't they go larger than 220 with the rotors . a larger rotor would dissipate the heat better. i went to 250 and it was a night and day difference running m7 on a LBX

[@stingyrogerr]

They have a 250 on the way :) this was a tester

[@Danielxperez14]

would bemore fair if you put new pads and did a fresh bleed on the hopes as well, ive never had them overheat or fade and im constantly using them for 30+ mph wheelies on 3 hour rides

[@stingyrogerr]

They did have fresh pads and bleed right before the video. They wont over heat on wheelies like that for me either they dont overheat on trails either, the only time they overheat and fade is when im on the road doing 60,70,80 mph and braking hard down to 20mph or so repeatedly. We have a supermoto course next to me and on there they become overwhelmed ( vid to come in summer when dry ) But yea they were bled and fresh gorilla pads before I fit the lewis brake to the green bike

[@Danielxperez14]

@@stingyrogerr oh okay, do you recommend gorilla pads over the galfer purple ebike pads?

[@stingyrogerr]

The purple ebike pads by galfer are similar to the ebike pads that come with the hope’s they’re ok but the gorilla pads bite harder and are less affected by water and less squeaky!

[@Danielxperez14]

@@stingyrogerrwhich type of gorilla? The ultimate?

[@AEsco48]

How do they expect you to mount anything else on you handlebar with that Master Cylinder?

[@stingyrogerr]

Its beefy!

[@AEsco48]

@@stingyrogerr never mind that. It physically does not allow you to mount anything else.

[@stingyrogerr]

Never thought about it tbh! I like to keep my bar setup clean never even ran a display until I got the nucular I guess for those with light switches, phone mounts ect it poses a problem.

[@AEsco48]

@@stingyrogerr I Agree, cleaner bars the better. But some times a bike/controller will require a display, mode switch, turbo button, a horn while not sexy, it helps a lot to get by gas bikes on trails that dont know you are behind them (and faster). Other is handguards to protect your levers and hands...

[@Danielxperez14]

i honestly love my hopes the quality is better, they're highly serviceable and they're NOT made in China

[@stingyrogerr]

The quality of the lewis lever and hope lever are about the same, the hope piston has more cnc lines on it than the lewis but the raw silver version looks amazing - having both in-front of me the quality of the lewis blew me away. The only difference is that one is made here in the uk and the other in china as you say 😝

[@Danielxperez14]

@@stingyrogerr yea part availability is a big thing for me personally, tbh the Lewis would be something I’d look into if I ever needed more power which right now I don’t

[@stingyrogerr]

Very true, ive replaced 2x hope levers and also one red cap on my reservoir and they were easy to find and fast to come :) If that was the Lewis then i’m guessing id be putting up with scratched and scuffed parts

[@user-kp8lw5gb2e]

need to fit two 8 pistons both front and rear with 250mm rotors then it will be the perfect combination

[@stingyrogerr]

I believe for the front the max is 6 piston!

[@user-kp8lw5gb2e]

my front is a marzocchi monster t 2003 225mm and i'm sure it will handle a 250mm rotor i already ordered the two brakes i will make a custom adapter and write about the results

[@OliverThen17]

@@stingyrogerr do you think that you would need and adapter to be able to use these with the 250 mm rotors?

[@stingyrogerr]

@OliverThen17 youd just need a 250 post mount rear adapter/some washers and longer bolts man!

[@iseepandas1]

What bike shop in the USA has these?! Seems like no one sells them!

[@stingyrogerr]

Not sure man! Im in the UK! I think most retailers are still awaiting their stock !

[@iseepandas1]

@@stingyrogerrok what shops in UK have them? I have a friend in uk that can buy them for me..

[@stingyrogerr]

Electro mx will stock them, he sent me these testers and his instagram was at the start of the video and his website link is also in the description:)

[@iseepandas1]

@@stingyrogerr sell me the ones he sent you, I don’t care if they’re used I just need them already!

[@beef6785]

Do you have to bleed the brakes at all

[@stingyrogerr]

No not at all - we kept them in tact didn’t have to disassemble to fit them to the bike! They come pre-bled!

[@beef6785]

@@stingyrogerr sweet thank you

[@repa8203]

How you remove it

[@stingyrogerr]

Remove it? What?

[@repa8203]

@@stingyrogerr done already ill change my brake pads in this kind of brakes

[@user-lb7pc2hg2h]

I have one. really good but expensive. cost me 2800 yuan about 400 usd

[@Erad3r]

Hello there I wanna ask you for opinion I got an offer for talaria sting r 3500£ plus 100£ shipping brand new in the box is it worth it. I’m a big guy 183 tall and 90kg.

[@stingyrogerr]

Yeah man you’re 6 foot tall exactly. I ride with people over 6 foot 2 and 90-100kg all the time, you will be fine on it :) should be good to go man

[@Erad3r]

@@stingyrogerr Do you know from where I can buy set of 21 front and 18 rear wheels and tyres?

[@stingyrogerr]

Yes contact @wgtracing on instagram tell him you found him through me and ask for 21/18 wheels, I use his wheels if you look at my talaria sting build video. Best in the game

[@Erad3r]

@@stingyrogerrThanks a lot man.

[@ridingdirty2412]

son of TISM

[@stingyrogerr]

Son of what? 🤣

[@ridingdirty2412]

@@stingyrogerr Search them up and please use some of their music in your next upload

[@stingyrogerr]

Ill have a look but you can’t use copyright music in your videos or you get a strike from KZbin and they automatically remove the audio. This is why I have to use generic audio from Artlist.io :(

[@SUR-RONTV-up1xt]

How much

[@stingyrogerr]

One million dollars! 😝

[@TresXTre]

Fuck having 8 pads

[@stingyrogerr]

Lol costly to change when they wear out! But worth it for 20+kw builds to slow you down properly!

[@SUR-RONTV-up1xt]

250mm rotor??

[@stingyrogerr]

220 here 250 in the works :)

[@SUR-RONTV-up1xt]

@@stingyrogerr link ?

[@stingyrogerr]

Theyre not available to the consumer market yet for a few weeks, these are tester sets. Theres a link in the description to his website and his instagram page in the video you can contact him through those to pre order or purchase when his shipment arrives 👍🏻

[@SUR-RONTV-up1xt]

@@stingyrogerr thanx man keep the good work

[@FlyingKechup]

I run the stock 4-piston brakes with upgraded pads and they lock up the tires instantly I don't really find a reason for you to upgrade your brakes besides just to review

[@stingyrogerr]

When you have 5x the power of a stock bikes the stock brakes boil. The lewis and also hope brakes use dot 5.1 fluid the stock mineral oil brakes would boil and need a long time to cool after braking from 70mph to a stop more than 2 times in a row, the stock rotors also have warped on me and can cause a nasty accident. You dont take a car from 200hp to 1000hp and only upgrade the pads. If you go back to my ‘build video’ before I had this amount of power and was at 12kw, I clearly said the stock front brake were good enough. Going from 12kw to 25-28kw is crazy different. The stock brakes and shimano pads were my choice of braking system for 3 years on my other bike and first 1 year on my sting on stock to 10/12kw theyre good enough. But thanks for watching

[@pameladuran2885]

Tell em

[@TheDustyShredder]

You're using basic floating rotors, not even the ones that offer COOLING FINS. Hardly a fair comparison.

[@stingyrogerr]

The white bike has £140 floating and vented double layer hope v4 rotor on the front. The most expensive and cooling rotor on the market. You can’t get them for the rear. The green bike had a simple single layer non floating rotor. Lewis bike has the disadvantage 👍🏻