THE WORLDS BIGGEST SURRON BRAKES // Volar Sport vs. Lewis EP8+

[@mjd40.billy_volt]

Them socks tho 😂💚

[@Pthomas.]

Your video just made me ordering a pair for the front. Running the hope v4 and I'm super unhappy with them on my 84v 25kw full modded Surron (btw you would love her). Thanks for your video. Much love from DE

[@stingyrogerr]

Thats amazing to hear! I think past 15kw big brakes are needed! Thanks for the kind words and your bike sounds a blast! All the best 💪🏼🫡

[@Flooftoys]

Love your videos! Keep it up can’t wait for your channel to explode 🤯

[@Hermes-Quadmegistus]

If that's a permanent feature or side effect of putting them breaks on my Talaria Mx5 I don't think I will waste my money....my breaks are pretty bad ass stock and that squeaking That would do my nut in. Respect stingy, from a regular watcher. Thanks for responding. Happy riding bro!

[@stingyrogerr]

These are the racing pads they come pre installed with but were the original version early production models. After this they redesigned the pads with a groove in the middle reducing squeal. They also now offer organic pads for the volar sport brakes so this makes them quieter again. I also have a track focussed car with aggressive pad compound and they squeal like this when cold! To be honest in regular trail riding situations when pulling the brake levers every corner i don’t notice it or hear it so maybe its mostly when theyre still cold. I dont hear it very often when editing my riding content so the sound must almost stop when they are adequately warm! Although I was going fast and braking hard I was stopping between each take to try and film ect so they cooled again extremely fast. There’s not much that stresses or could overheat these brakes!

[@Hermes-Quadmegistus]

Interesting...... Sounds about right! Thanks for the info. No denying they look great and look like they perform even better.

[@Uksurron]

As always sir sting , another great video. Love the socks 🔥⚡️

[@stingyrogerr]

Haha thanks brother!

[@akos12316]

Do you use 21 front wheel? Does the Fastace 2.0 have enough clearance when bottoming out?

[@stingyrogerr]

I used to use fast ace 2.0. Not anymore now tech suspension on newer videos. It will bottom 21” out but with warp 9 new drop crown for the fast ace you can fit 21” no problem. I use 19” front.

[@realkidcarter]

Woah looks like you got updated rotors?

[@stingyrogerr]

Yes sir!!

[@BarkingStarDawg]

Hi mate wondering do you know whats the difference/benefits of a upgraded 82v surron battery vs a 72v battery?

[@stingyrogerr]

higher voltage is more efficient as it requires less amps to make the same power! in terms of power maybe a few more kw (10%) best case. More voltage often gives a bit more motor rpm too :) wouldn't let it be a deal breaker, a 72v 55ah battery will still have more range than a 82v 45ah battery and if you pick a high power 72v such as mine (28kw) you might not notice the difference a 30kw 82v may yield as it requires another level of motor to go past this such as the ebmx motor at double the price of a sotion motor just for the extra 5-10% extra oomph!

[@BarkingStarDawg]

@@stingyrogerr Thanks for the quick reply man, im on stock motor Surron lbx, x9000 controller, looking at 82v 50ah and 72v 50ah, the 82 is about £300 more than the 72 im just wondering if its worth the extra few hundred what do you think? I wont be wanting to go anywhere near 30kw! 20-25 tops if i upgrade motor in future (probs sotion)

[@stingyrogerr]

@@BarkingStarDawg you'd get more range from 82v 50 vs the 72v 50ah, although the motion tops out at 26kw so you won't gain any extra power from the 82v and will be considerably larger, Its worth the extra £300 but is it right for you is the main question, if you don't mind me asking where are you looking for these batteries, I would recommend the electron cycles 72v 55ah v3 dominator which is what I use it will have 82v power and range whilst being a bit smaller & probably less cost

[@BarkingStarDawg]

@@stingyrogerr Thanks, think ill probably go 72 then based off of that, not wanting it to be too massive and heavy and im not trying to run crazy crazy power.. im looking on JSH battery as ive been offered 20% off any battery on their site because of an issue i had, 20% is a pretty decent chunk of £ so think i will be sticking with them

[@stingyrogerr]

My brother runs a 72v 53ah battery from JSH, its a good battery but not as high powered, its maxing at 15.5kw with everything we try bumped to the max on aftermarket controller - still fine for most people though and very fast bike. Definitely worth it for 20% off

[@yho12]

@stingyrogerr what happened to the sideplates?? USA

[@stingyrogerr]

Give away winner was announced in my latest video :) the bike has new rear mud guard coming and I redesigned my own side plates to accommodate for the swing arm extension, you will see them in an upcoming video and the new version and old version will both be for sale on www.wgtracing.store after the video :) some big things coming

[@Kaipocamarao]

Thanks for the awesome update! Definitely the parts I need for my bike. United States

[@Xenos_LOL]

Great video as always, keep it up!

[@silvan125]

4:18 😂😂 i hope you changed your pants after this test 😂😂

[@stingyrogerr]

Too many skids! 😝🤣

[@Frrydiufc]

Great vid I want to get one but just don’t know about people trying to nick it if I get one any recommendations to prevent it ?

[@stingyrogerr]

It depends on where you live. I have a surron and talaria and my surron we have had since 2019 and never had any problems. Stay away from built up areas and don’t let anybody see where you live or show your face when riding :)

[@Frrydiufc]

@@stingyrogerralright thanks

[@talamies]

When is the Prickly Ultra bee break conversion video coming?

[@stingyrogerr]

Probably wont ever try that set up. Front is more important and then they wont match :)

[@OliverThen17]

hey guys loving the videos! would like to know if the Lewis EP8 brake levers have a similar feeling to the Volar Sport brake levers. like do they progressively firm up the more you apply the brakes? also wanna get more of your guys thoughts on the both brakes after a couple hundred miles and after getting a Lewis front brake to see how they hold up. the talariaboys made a brake video recently and they had The Lewis EP 6s on a bike but they said they hated it, I wanna know if maybe they got a faulty brake set or something? they said they hated the lever feeling on it and were saying that they had problems with the pistons coming out uneven on the brakes and they had bleeding problems getting oil coming out the reservoir during install. they also said they had to really press down to hard on the break lever to actually get the stopping power out of the EP 6s, im very curious how the lewis EP 8 install/bleed went for you guys and the user experience now that you've guys had it for longer, was considering EP 8 but there are so little videos online besides the one you guys made before, all the other videos is just people showing off the brakes.

[@stingyrogerr]

Hey bud, we didnt have to bleed them they came pre bled, we always try to keep the factory bleed because they are vacum filled and will never be as good if you try to do it yourself. All brakes have their own niggles when it comes to bleeding and it is often time consuming. I didn’t see those boys actually using/riding those the brakes on trails back to back i’ve just seen them talking about different brakes out loud which for me was not really much of a comparison - but creating content is time consuming and much trickier to make a thorough video than it looks! Trust me I know ;) i’m never satisfied my videos are good enough! I came from hope tech 4 v4 and both are better than the hope, the lever feel on the lewis is fine its not as modular as the hope’s but its stronger & the stronger a brake bites the less modulation they have i find anyway. The volar sport are the most powerful and for modded bikes very needed, if you can ride over 6/10ths on a 72v bike you will overheat a 4pot MTB setup easily. I would say the lewis are great feeling. We are being sent the 6 piston front to match soon also. You have to gain the muscle memory to any brake setup its normal, a few miles on each is not enough to really say if you can or can’t get a long with them in my opinion. I think the volar sport are maybe 15% more powerful than the lewis ep8 but they are around 200% more powerful than the hope tech 4’s. Although the heat resistance on the volar sport is superior by a long way to even the lewis.

[@OliverThen17]

@@stingyrogerr wow that was a lighting fast response i really appreciate that! For riders like me a lot of this information can be overwhelming when there are so many new options and opinions coming out, im still relatively new to having motorized bikes since i didnt grow up with them so the surron was my entry into “high powered bikes”. I like to try and learn as much as possible and work on my own bike and repairs/upgrades so i get a better understanding of bikes in general. Im mainly a street rider and sometimes go on light trails, so I understand i dont even necessarily need the same breaking power as a lot of the youtubers i see but my friends like to do drag races and ride fast cutting up traffic in nyc so good brakes are necessary, also im learning wheelies so the brake modulation is actually something i care about. I’ve gotten by on stock brakes believe it or not, since for me i was coming into this fresh with no other bike for reference, so they were good until they werent, and ive already looped a couple times from my brakes giving out even when I pressed them. i didn’t know why at first but know I know now it’s from overheating. So Ive basically been working with an on and off switch that over heats almost instantly lol so any modulation in brakes will be a vast improvement. I have ridden my friends bike with the hopetech 4 v4 and they felt great,but its not my bike so i dont have seat time using those brakes. before the Lewis or Volar brakes were available i was almost gonna get the hopetechs but decided to wait and see what people say about these two brakes respectively. Im saving up for my power upgrades but i want to upgrade brakes and suspension before i add more weight and power onto the bike. But if i could get a lot more stopping power thats what i really want, since i feel like coming off of stock brakes the modulations will be noticeable on any of the two brakes once i get the feel/muscle memory for them. Again i really appreciate the quick response and how informative the response was you answered a lot if the questions i had in my head and made it easy for someone with my level of knowledge on bikes understand , also made me understand a lot of the differences between moto style brakes and the mtb brakes seems like theres trade off in power and modulation but the motos style will have more power and mtb style in this case the hopetechs will have greater modulation

[@flippers1334]

How close is the rear caliper to the spokes? I'm running a charge cycle works 16in rear and it's dished a bit. Wouldn't work with the gritshift kit with a p34 and I'm looking at these as an option!

[@stingyrogerr]

My rear is also dished, its not contacted or rubbed and im 7mm dished 🫡

[@thefoolish_one]

Amazing video, I got a question how tall are you?

[@stingyrogerr]

5ft 8. Thanks for watching 👍🏻😝

[@ronaldthorpe2335]

Does it still make that sound months later? Because I have the volar sport kit on my Eride Pro ss, and it still makes that sound

[@stingyrogerr]

Mine has gone now! Nothing really! Not that I notice anyway!

[@jamalyez5694]

great vid is there gonna be a freeride soon ?

[@danielwaugh9803]

Australia! Another 🔥 Video!! Legend

[@shaner.5]

Nice upgrade!

[@BoozySZN]

Seen these on logans already. They're beasts! ❤

[@JoChris54]

Keep up the good work my friend (Cyprus)

[@dseer7409]

Hi. Thank you for your reply on my previous post of me asking if the lewis has the brake motor cut off sensor or if it is compatible. I will like to ask the same thing for these volar brakes as well* please do they have the these feature? I am looking for like the best brakes i can get that has the sensor motor cuttoff compatible

[@stingyrogerr]

Yes these have compatibility they have a sensor you can screw in but I chose not to use this with my brakes.

[@hacker1011000]

the site dose not have usa for there region how dose one get there hands on this kit?

[@stingyrogerr]

I believe LGP powersports is the usa distributor lgp-powersports.com/ 👍🏻

[@hacker1011000]

@@stingyrogerr sweet thanks a lot

[@hacker1011000]

@@stingyrogerr and these come with brake disks right ?

[@LAFFRS]

You should come brum and come out with the lads

[@stingyrogerr]

Is it not quite hot up there for bikes? Worry about losing mine 🤣😝

[@LAFFRS]

@stingyrogerr not really bro especially when you're with the locals we usually go out atleast 5/6 of us. around 6/7 miles from town center tons of country side forests and off road bits to ride on including Sutton park which is like Europe's biggest park. We've never even had anyone moan at us for being on them its abit more "normal" here if that makes sense.

[@steviesouthall4694]

Great review! A lot of money but seems like a quality product 👏🏼

[@vadim_moskalenk_o]

Swing are extension is sick love the bike bro , USA 🇺🇸

[@DuttiBikes]

brakes are MAD!!!! England my broski

[@Lego_Darth_Vader]

Great review video on the brakes!!, Im in the United States🙏🏻

[@morg4778]

where are the swinging arm extenders for talaria from? thanks

[@stingyrogerr]

Hey! They are from vanguard garage!

[@jacobjones5247]

@@stingyrogerr is there a uk supplier or did you cough up for US delivery?🤣

[@stingyrogerr]

@jacobjones5247 coughed up for the delivery and import! If you comment your country you live in you automatically enter a giveaway to win the second set I have.

[@jacobjones5247]

@@stingyrogerr that’s unfortunate. Most premium brands and bits are all overseas unfortunately. Will definitely try my luck with the give away 👍🏽

[@Danielxperez14]

Are these the best surron lbx brake upgrade rn? I have hopes and still want more power. Looking at the prickly Moto brake kit for 400$

[@stingyrogerr]

These are the top dog in terms of bespoke systems for ebikes. Unbelievable performance. the rotors alone are true floating (unlike most other brands) and 3mm thick nothing else like them on the market. If the prickly kit doesnt come with these rotors it wont be anywhere near as good in theory.

[@Danielxperez14]

@@stingyrogerr do they sell the rotors separately? My budget was around 400-450$

[@stingyrogerr]

@Danielxperez14 yes i believe the whole kit can be purchased in individual parts

[@realkidcarter]

Im from the US i want the swingarm extension for my talaria

[@OGPrettyFlako]

Big shout out to you my Gee from New york city ...from the Bx to the UK all day everyday ... great content and i can use those brakes😅

[@stingyrogerr]

big up bro! on holiday in jan to NYC! love it out there!

[@Camodude9891]

United States. Those brakes are crazy.

[@surron_sefi]

Amazing video as always mate keep it up 👍🏼

[@stingyrogerr]

Thanks mate! You can enter the give away at the end of the video by putting your location as a comment!

[@1sir-onworld]

🐝🏁 Nice video mate 👍 👌

[@pauldoestuff]

what helmet are you running?

[@stingyrogerr]

Yo its a fox dropframe pro helmet!

[@Supernova2024.]

that bike is so fire bro

[@josediaz6246]

"I broke so hard" 😂😂😂

[@stingyrogerr]

Eyeballs exit your skull with these brakes!!

[@josediaz6246]

@stingyrogerr lmao I bet for that price I better be looking like a old school cartoon my bones n skin coming off

[@JustClapIt]

Good video as usual bro

[@AshleyAllardice]

United kingdom 🇬🇧 bike is a beast 💪🏻

[@skeptix4356]

Lfg Logan Taylor from my city

[@Kingztech101]

Please let me win man I LIVE IN UK ENGLAND MANCHESTER.

[@pinibikes]

Uk bishop’s stortford

[@surron_sefi]

United States of America 🫡

[@charliebrentnall9325]

UK👍👍

[@ManicMagic123]

UK👊🏽

[@Kingztech101]

Please let me win w vid🎉

[@stingyrogerr]

You gotta comment your country to enter bro!

[@Ron-don]

Enter me in that giveaway boy

[@stingyrogerr]

You have to post your ‘location’ in a comment!

[@bacyl]

Slovakia

[@Ron-don]

Ayyy

[@DomT420]

£1000 G 😅

[@fazesw2343]

Just get a dirt bike spending all that to upgrade an electric bike to be like a dirt bike 😂

[@stingyrogerr]

I do have 3 dirtbikes also

[@Flooftoys]

United Kingdom

[@TripleOneYT]

España orr whatever

[@steviemontano3632]

United States. Talaria

[@Ray88G]

85cc dirt bike still has better brakes ,

[@stingyrogerr]

We will see when we race and brake test against our 85 this summer :) the talaria weighs more than sx85 by 10kg. Thanks for watching 👍🏻

[@J6kke]

can’t please everyone

[@stingyrogerr]

Always people with negative comments mate just the way of youtube - being kind is best policy

[@J6kke]

@@stingyrogerr Too right

[@jacobjones5247]

United Kingdom